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In Ukraine, everything repeats, in Ukraine everything will repeat


How everything was pretty and touching was organized for the Euro - 2012 in Ukraine! The same Poles rushed to our fans, and the fraternal people showed warmth and hospitality to the whole world. A football holiday was held, consider, in our country, because the chicken is not a bird. It took a little time, and they have a fierce war. More precisely, it goes with us, because Ukraine is not abroad.

Some kind of curse hangs over a blooming country. Not for the first time in his stories her sons clashed in a bloody feud. Smoot, or ruin, if in the local manner. If in December I assessed the events in Ukraine as the ruin of "light" (for what seemed to be a bit of the pretending and local scale of the confrontation), now, of course, everything turned into a full-fledged 2.0 ruin.

As in that distemper-ruin, Ukraine is facing opposition to pro-Western and pro-Russian forces. Of the external players then our enemies were Turkey, Sweden, Poland and Lithuania and Rome looming behind them. Now the same Turkey, as well as Poles, Swedes and other “Baltic tigers” within the EU, are sickening the water in Ukraine, and especially in the Crimea. And because of the backstage "taxis" is not Catholic Rome, but Washington - what can you do, post-Christian civilization against our country. According to the head of the Swedish Foreign Ministry, Orthodoxy is the main threat to Western civilization. That is - Russia. Everything as usual.

In Ukraine, as in the 17th century, the local Russian population, in response to the threat of losing their identity and just living, are trying to create state entities. Then it was the Zaporizhzhya Sich, and today it is the DNI and the LC, only with local features. If on the territory of big Russia during the period of external threat, the population quickly rallied into a monolith, and the single strong power played a cementing role, then the inculcated Western "democratic values" on the territory of "Nezalezhnoy" led and lead to the fact that there are two Cossacks - three chieftains. Often, in a separate city or even a village there is a chieftain, or Cossack foreman, or, in a modern way, the militia commander and the people's mayor. The lack of unity of command and coordination, to put it mildly, greatly complicates the task of countering the enemy.

Opposing this part of the Russian people are territorial structures such as the half of Ukraine, headed by its Gauleiter Poroshenko, and the patrimony of the modern and mutated Yankel, who, as a zealous owner, seeks to grab what he thinks lies badly. So far, I must admit, he does it well. These lands are more often called “kaganat”. There is also a placer of magnates, gentry and Cossack elite (local “elite”, as it were), each of which has its own small army consisting of mercenaries, criminals and other trash.

As in the first ruin, the “cream of society” is aimed at an alliance with the West, and a significant part of the lower-level Cossacks (soldiers and officers) are pro-Russian or do not show a great desire to fight for the selfish ideals of “as if the rulers” of Ukraine.

Based on the historical Ukrainian experience, one can expect amazing alliances, betrayals and transitions to the side of the enemy by individual commanders and entire armies, tycoons-oligarchs and ordinary foot soldiers. Everything will depend on the specific situation on the front, problems with supplies and banal bribery. This is where the open field for the work of the special services is - recruit, recruit. Tens, hundreds of players, and everyone is his own master.

From the Cossack state (New Russia) leaves the local civilian population. Those who are alien to “Ukraine ponad use” and who do not want to ride like Moskal, on the one hand, and on the other, have no desire to get up from weapons in the hands against the enemy.

We can blame them, blame them, but many of them have families, children, and the desire for a peaceful, peaceful life outweighs the obligation to protect their home from invasion. I do not want to condemn them.

The same subpassionaries on the other front line are hiding from the call for a war they don’t need, and their mothers and wives are blocking the roads, not wanting to receive funerals in the near future. They are increasingly thinking about leaving this once flourishing country.

In the Cossacks-Novorossia comes another nation. Those who are used to worrying about our people on the front line, and not on the TV screens during a football match. Of course, the two opposing streams are disproportionate, but, frankly, such a number of people in the Donbass are no longer necessary for current economic activities, and may soon become a serious burden for defense. Better to us, to the rear.

It is unlikely that it will be possible to build cars under bullets, to smelt metal under bombs, to transport cargo through destroyed railway bridges. To take credit for the modernization of production and to set up production of new products in the conditions of war - this is from the realm of fantasy. Not soon now, the residents of Donetsk will enjoy the fints of the “Brazilian miners”; employees of beauty salons, travel agencies, car dealerships, and so on, are not out of business.
The life of people is becoming more and more simple, and soon it can be compared with the conditions of life in the Middle Ages, and not with our usual era of consumption. With the inevitable rupture of all economic chains and the massive closure of industries, fewer and fewer people will be able to feed themselves on this land.

The same goes for the opposite side. Throwing all the forces and means into the crucible of war with the industrial center of their country and leading the "ingenious" management of their economies, "as if the authorities" of Ukraine "shake" the territory entrusted to them even earlier than bombs and missiles would destroy the Donbass.

How would this “simplification of economic and economic relations” not cast aside the country in the Stone Age! .. It seems that those who brewed all this mess, would not mind if the territory of Ukraine resembled a solid decoration of a post-apocalyptic film.

Tesnaya Ukriyei Novorossiya calls for help to Russia, but, as in the XVII century, Russia is far from immediately openly going to help.

Almost literal quote from a school history textbook: “B. Khmelnitsky repeatedly appealed to the Russian Tsar with a request for help and a military alliance, but Aleksei Mikhailovich was well aware that this would lead to a full-scale war with a strong Poland then, moreover, the Russian state itself did not fully recover from the recent turmoil ... "

In this quotation, it is only necessary to write “president” instead of the word “king”, and instead of “Poland” to put “NATO”.

But we remember that at the decisive and critical moment, Moscow came to the aid of the Cossacks, and as a result, it joined the first fully pro-Russian Left Bank, and then, after the Poles with the Turks under their own alternate control virtually destroyed the right bank, these lands too They came to us so that Russia had something to restore from the ruins.

I am sure that something similar will happen in the very near future: our enemies will destroy everything in Ukraine, what they will reach, then, when a favorable foreign policy situation comes, a long-awaited reunion will occur. Only now such a prospect is unlikely to become a strong consolation to the residents of Slavyansk who have remained in the city, where punitives for many months of helplessness against the militia come to light.

PS I don’t want to think about it, but lately, analogies not with the history of Ukraine, but more recently the events in the former Yugoslavia, when the local leader S. Milosevic first passed on his compatriots, formally foreigners, first in Serb Krajina, then in autonomy in his state, then deservedly lost the support of his own people, power, freedom and, finally, his own life. And the federation entrusted to him ordered to live long. Now the fragments of his country are ruled by traitors and consents. I hope our president has a solid "five" in history ...

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  1. brelok
    brelok 10 July 2014 09: 20
    All right! History repeats itself!
    1. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time 10 July 2014 09: 29
      Quote: brelok
      All right! History repeats itself!

      I agree, there is nothing to add
      1. ispaniard
        ispaniard 10 July 2014 10: 04
        Mdaaa as in a joke: -Why everyone calls you "Two times"? -I do not know. )))
        1. pasha
          pasha 11 July 2014 06: 43
          who does not jump on a gas cylinder laid on an anti-tank mine - that’s
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    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 10 July 2014 10: 25
      Quote: brelok
      All right! History repeats itself!

      It will be repeated until the lesson has been learned.
      So far, with Dill, the outlook is negative ..
    3. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 10 July 2014 10: 48
      Yeah, it is repeated, remember the year 1914, with what it began and how it ended for Russia.
  2. Consul-t
    Consul-t 10 July 2014 09: 37
    There’s nothing to say. Only emotions...
  3. ale-x
    ale-x 10 July 2014 09: 44
    "I hope our president has a solid" five "in history ..."

    I hope too.
  4. 3vs
    3vs 10 July 2014 09: 51
    What to expect from a country that has such an anthem!

    "Ukraine is still alive and glory, and will,
    Still, young brothers, fate smiles.
    Our enemies will disappear like dew in the sun.
    We, brothers, will also live on our side. "

    That is, the anthem already predicts that Ukraine should disappear.
    And all around are enemies who must die. (Do not worry m ~ grin yes Poles)

    An interesting name was given to Ukraine on the website
    Country 404.
    From wikipedia:
    "Error 404 or Not Found" is the standard HTTP response code indicating that the client was able to communicate with the server, but the server could not find the data as requested.
    A 404 error means that the requested resource may be available in the future, but this does not guarantee the presence of the previous content. "
    Accurate remark!
    CONTROL 10 July 2014 09: 51
    Quote: ... Almost a literal quote from the school history textbook: “B. Khmelnitsky repeatedly appealed to the Russian Tsar for help and a military alliance, but Alexei Mikhailovich was well aware that this would lead to a full-scale war with then strong Poland, and the Russian state itself did not fully recover from the recent turmoil ... "

    And then what happened? It’s interesting ... The main thing, not the first and not the last time: the betrayal of your benefactors and savior by the Ukrainians ... again ... or will it only be? are you planning? completely confused ...
    what a complicated science is history!

    Been THERE four times since the beginning of the conflict! When Strelkov came to Donetsk, conflicts began with local "rrr-evolutsioners". From what I saw in Slavyansk and Donetsk, I expected it and did not doubt ... the coolest guys in Donetsk are in power ...
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 10 July 2014 09: 55
    History, develops in a spiral, certain historical events are repeated in one form or another, at the next historical round ...
  7. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 10 July 2014 10: 01
    History repeats itself, but past historical lacalas cannot always be pulled to the current historical moment. It is indisputable only that Russia throughout its history was surrounded by enemies who did not miss the opportunity to bite it more painfully during periods of its weakening, for which, however, they deservedly and inevitably received a cunning, brazen face. The forms and methods of struggle have simply changed. I think this time too, the asymmetric answer will not take long.
  8. Vend
    Vend 10 July 2014 10: 21
    More precisely, it goes with us, because Ukraine is not abroad.

    What are you saying? Another country with its own currency, with its president, etc., is not abroad.
    In one you are right, everything is repeated. Once the territory was lost, now Ukraine, then it was returned. It will be returned, not immediately, and maybe not now, but it will be.
  9. Jackking
    Jackking 10 July 2014 10: 24
    Already behind ---- whether whining that Russia owes something to someone! For a quarter of a century, proud Ukrainians only did that they changed presidents - they finally chose a huckster-swindler as their president. And what, Russian guys must pour blood so that the author of the article amuses his darling? I want to fight, so lift your ass and shuruy in the Donbass!
    Ukrainians want another president - so let them rise to the fight, and do not expect that the oaths m .. they will come to help them. So far, only a couple of thousand people throughout Ukraine are not satisfied with the state of affairs. And the miners shut up something ...
    1. lankrus
      lankrus 10 July 2014 12: 37
      Quote: Jackking
      Ukrainians want another president - so let them rise to the fight, and do not expect that the oaths m .. they will come to help them. So far, only a couple of thousand people throughout Ukraine are not satisfied with the state of affairs.

      What does the Ukrainians have to do with it. These are Russian lands, sprinkled with the blood of our ancestors and for any political reasons attached to Ukraine. And the people said their word in a referendum. And they come and fight. Strelkov, even in Slavyansk, said that he would assemble a weapon even though he would assemble a division.
      And you my friend Cossack mishandled campaign, or from these liberals?
      1. Jackking
        Jackking 10 July 2014 17: 01
        Cossacks are those who are going to rake the heat with the wrong hands. And it was necessary to think about political considerations earlier when they were eager for a capitalist sweet life.
        To the statement "what have the Ukrainians have to do with it" - even though the same land is watered with their blood, and it is in their power to decide their fate.
        About the referendum and weapons - something is not visible passing to the side of the militia divisions and districts with weapons and equipment (this is about support and the referendum).
        First, the author should think about what is happening, and then glue the labels.
        PS Then you’re going to go to war, or as a political officer from the sofa, will you continue ???
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  11. Sanglier
    Sanglier 10 July 2014 11: 07
    If anyone carefully watched the film "The Split", then he could pay attention to the following episode: "Ambassadors from Khmelnitsky came to Alexei Mikhailovich with a request to join Russia. The tsar is in thought and asks for advice from the jester. Answer of the jester:" , with this Ukraine ... ".
    1. BLACK-SHARK-64
      BLACK-SHARK-64 12 July 2014 23: 14
  12. Sergei 57
    Sergei 57 10 July 2014 11: 47
    All this will continue until the neighboring states take it apart for parts.
    1. BLACK-SHARK-64
      BLACK-SHARK-64 12 July 2014 23: 15
      and so it will be .... give time ....
  13. Cristall
    Cristall 10 July 2014 11: 54
    Quote: Sanglier
    Ambassadors from Khmelnitsky came to Alexei Mikhailovich with a request to join Russia. The king is in thought and asks a jester for advice. The jester's answer: "You will suffer, Father, with this Ukraine ...".

    but as soon as they took Ukraine and strengthened it, they, together with the Baltic coast at an accelerated pace, became a significant European power. And after Katya, with the south gate even faster.
    Something in Ukraine is such that moves Russia forward. How does it affect.
    1. BLACK-SHARK-64
      BLACK-SHARK-64 12 July 2014 23: 17
      influences ..... roots and history - Kievan Rus .... there can be no talk of any artificial Ukraine ....
  14. Yasondinalt
    Yasondinalt 10 July 2014 12: 33
    Here it is necessary, as Catherine at the time, to select the Cossack mace and appoint atamans of her own free will. And why, from century to century, this - called Ukraine, will betray, ruin, and Russian - restore everything?
  15. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 10 July 2014 13: 02
    Outskirts - not serious. I want to hold America for the Adam's apple.
  16. cosmos132
    cosmos132 10 July 2014 13: 03
    There is a war; political decisions cannot stop it. Force only needs strength - all means are suitable here.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 10 July 2014 13: 26
      A good look. If a fight is inevitable, it is best to start first and at a convenient time. The most favorable moment was with Russia at the end of June. But even now it’s not too late, fortunately, the dill grouped their gangs closely. Then, when the NTAO air defense is poked, there will be no chance.
  17. Iero
    Iero 10 July 2014 13: 03
    History is cyclical. All repeats. And heroic deeds, and betrayal ... At least "5", at least "1" in the subject, all the same - history has not taught anyone, nothing. And the role of personality in history is negligible. If the historical vector-stream takes place, then it will sweep away everyone and everything, undermine any circumstances. Alexander, Genghis Khan and others thought that they were making history, in fact history made them. And now history, without asking permission from either the State Department or the UN, will create its own heroes (and antiheroes too) and pave a channel wherever it can be laid.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 10 July 2014 13: 38
      Yes, all lies! Cyclicity is statistics. Gumilev never gave an intelligible answer to the reasons for the emergence of passionarity, only singled out this phenomenon as one of the characteristics of ethnogenesis, and nothing more. We got into the habit of attracting "cycles" by the ears. The cycles of birth on Earth of groups of people with a combination of "morality / spirit" - you can somehow take it as a hypothesis. But this is outside the "scientific" approach, here it smells of incarnation. But the rest is pure scholasticism. The role of personality in history is great, otherwise it should be recognized that a person is an animal "give - take, beat - run". And the fact that Ukraine for the third time has become a battlefield and a field of betrayal for the Slavs is another use of the situation with a constant multi-thousand-year "interest" to bury the Russian civilization. The enemy did not go anywhere, from that and "cycles". Hyperborea against Atlantis, Russia against the North Atlantic Alliance - the analogy is obvious.
  18. RUS33
    RUS33 10 July 2014 16: 03
    They have been running back and forth since the 17th century.
    As the saying goes: the first time is randomness, the second time is coincidence, the third time is regularity.
    I already got confused how many times it was all "back and forth".
    If you knew the story (and would not invent your own), you look at the "rake" would not come.
    One should learn from the mistakes of others, and not from one’s own and more than once
  19. Kerzhak
    Kerzhak 10 July 2014 16: 57
    They don’t destroy their territory like that. So the authorities do not consider the Donbass theirs. Otherwise, it would not have leveled it to the ground.
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 10 July 2014 22: 47
      Quote: Kerzhak
      So hohlovlast does not consider Donbass his


      Assume that most of the land in the south and south-east is no longer owned by Ukraine or leased for 99 years?

      Perhaps this is one of the reasons why
  20. boris
    boris 10 July 2014 17: 44
    Ukrainian is not a nationality. This is philosophy and psychology. As a
    measures: Poroshenko, Avakov (Armenian), Kolomoisky (Jew), Akhmetov (Tata-
    rin), Tymoshenko (a complex mixture) and many others. Including thoroughbred
    n Russians.
  21. pasha
    pasha 11 July 2014 06: 56
    who does not jump on a gas cylinder, laid on an anti-tank mine - that is. I have a Russian mother, my father is Ukrainian, Schaub you are dead Nazis of all countries.