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Who seized the hospital in Donetsk? And was there a seizure?

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Site management information policy and press Donetsk Regional State Administration (although de facto and de jure there is no regional state administration in Donetsk, but there is a DPR leadership - approx. "IN") reports that several dozen armed people seized the first floor of one of the buildings of the Kalinin hospital in Donetsk.

Information from the specified site:

Today, 30 armed men seized the ground floor of the neurosurgical building of the Donetsk Regional Clinical Territorial Medical Association (Kalinin Hospital). This is the current department in which there are patients, including from among the members of the DPR.


Considering that donpress.com is a pro-Kiev resource that calls oligarch Taruta appointed by the junta of Kiev as the head of Donetsk region, information about armed people in the neurosurgical building looks specifically. If the resource does not say that it is the Ukrainian security forces, then it promotes the promise that the militia took the grip. At the same time, as if by chance, it is added that the members of the DPR are also undergoing treatment in the hospital. In the presented form, the information looks intended to once again expose the Donbas militia with extremists who do not even spare their supporters.

In any case, such information, which was spread by many Russian news agencies (in particular RIA News), needs careful scrutiny, because if militias were treated in the hospital, then what's the point of “seizing” the medical institution to the associates of these militias? If armed militiamen actually entered the hospital, then there is a version that they entered because their brothers were arms there was a serious danger from the enemy, who had learned about where the militiamen were put on their feet after being wounded.
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  1. Yellow white
    Yellow white 8 July 2014 16: 16
    +20
    Well, the point is to spread unverified Old, and even procrastinate it ???
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 8 July 2014 16: 18
      +11
      And ukrosMI only do this!
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 8 July 2014 16: 29
        +56
        08.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from A. Dugin

        "Right now, there is a clear watershed: for Strelkov / against Strelkov. Arguments are not important. They are for cover. For Strelkov, for Novorossia. Against Strelkov (for any arguments), for discharging Novorossiya.
        All the stories about Strelkov against Putin (from whatever side they were heard) are provocations. Shooters need Putin to save New Russia (and this means saving Putin, and therefore Russia). Strelkov needs Putin to save Novorossia, and Novorossia is needed by the Russian People, whose Strelkov is the fixation point today. Everything is very clear. I am for Strelkova. I am for New Russia. I am for the DNI. I am for Gubarev. I am for Russia. I'm for the Russians. "
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 8 July 2014 17: 01
          -9
          Quote: Sith Lord
          08.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from A. Dugin
          O-ho-ho ......... Kabzdets, not Dugin ...... "Rome fell because the barbarians were passionate, and the fact that they were passionary proves that Rome fell." Why is he still not sent for treatment? Or the new principle "for the fools everywhere we have a dear, for the fools everywhere we have honor."
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 8 July 2014 22: 44
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            O-ho-ho ......... Kabzdets, not Dugin ...... "Rome fell because the barbarians were passionate, and the fact that they were passionary proves that Rome fell." Why is he still not sent for treatment? Or the new principle "for the fools everywhere we have a dear, for the fools everywhere we have honor."

            Do not say.....
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 8 July 2014 17: 02
          0
          Only a plus. Good, brief analysis!
        3. Nahum
          Nahum 8 July 2014 17: 35
          0
          I am also for Putin! Although there are complaints with wishes.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 8 July 2014 17: 42
            -7
            Quote: Naum
            I am also for Putin!
        4. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 8 July 2014 17: 46
          +1
          Quote: Sith Lord
          Everything is very clear. I'm for Strelkov. I am for Novorossiya. I am for the DNI. I am for Gubarev. I am for Russia. I'm for the Russians. "

          Thanks for this information, for these words! They help not to lose faith in people, in victory!
        5. His
          His 8 July 2014 22: 23
          0
          How did Russia help the Donbass? One shooter is worth it!
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 8 July 2014 16: 22
      +19
      08.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from the Odessa militia

      "We fired at the Ukropsky checkpoint on the Odessa-Nikolaev highway near the village of Koshary. As a result of the attack, one junta soldier was wounded. The shelling began at about one in the morning. The fire was led by a dievsion group from a distance of about 30 meters, from the side of the road that leads to Koshary. Immediately after the shelling, our soldiers fled without getting involved in the battle. According to the Ukrainians, one of the soldiers on duty at the checkpoint was seriously wounded. The Nazis tried to catch the militias, but since they could not make out the color and make of the car, they failed. "

      08.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Summary from the LPR militia in the morning

      “Today night on the territory of Luhansk region controlled by LPR passed relatively calmly, which cannot be said about the capital of the republic.

      In the evening and at night within the city, shelling by the Ukrainian sabotage groups continued, two mortar crews allegedly worked under the guise of two snipers and with the support of the spotters.

      Today, around 8 in the morning, the fragments got into the taxi bus No. XXUMX in the area of ​​the Donbass Proletariat quarter, killing two people and injuring four.

      In Stanichno-Lugansk region, local battles took place under Makarov, information is being specified. "

      08.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from the militia

      "From the Bumblebee rocket infantry flamethrower the city council building of Artyomovsk was fired from the parking lot. The explosion occurred outside the building on the second floor level, in the area of ​​the office where the archive with the decisions of the executive committee and the city council sessions was held. A fire broke out. "Artyomovsk".
      Also in Artyomovsk, early in the morning, scouts fired at the positions of the fascist're coming out in the pedagogical school area, according to eyewitnesses, the Donbass battalion has wounded. "

      08.07.2014/14/15 XNUMX:XNUMX (Moscow time) Report from the militia

      "A pair of dryers passed high over Donetsk and bombed near the Petrovskaya mine, there is no information about the victims and destruction. The discharge was from one drying unit of two AB, one hit 21 mines, the second was an EZTO plant. In neighboring houses, a shock wave broke glass ".
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 8 July 2014 18: 07
        +2
        Well, thank you! And then without bulletins it’s somehow empty in the information space.
    3. portoc65
      portoc65 8 July 2014 16: 28
      +14
      According to the ukroashchik, dill enter-Slavyaviansk and gives an interview ... Well, the militias did with the city .. how can Girin mock ordinary people and everything in the same spirit. They all turned upside down ... not a word that it was they who bombed the city and not Strelkov
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 8 July 2014 16: 33
        +2
        In the area of ​​mine 4-21 in the Petrovsky district, an explosion

        Around 13.00 in the area of ​​the idle mine 4-21 (Petrovsky district) an explosion was heard.

        As a result of the explosion, one side window was damaged on a passing bus No. 42 (AS Center - DS Trudovskaya), there were no injuries.

        According to residents, smoke is visible in the mine area.

        Details of the incident are being specified.

        According to unconfirmed information, representatives of the DPR are stationed there. It is also reported that a plane was visible in the air.
    4. Tanysh
      Tanysh 8 July 2014 16: 40
      +1
      Only to ensure that all information is cross-checked by all possible means to prevent information provocation
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 8 July 2014 17: 14
      0
      Tame the successors of Goebbels propaganda.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 8 July 2014 17: 57
        0
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Tame the followers of Goebbels propaganda

        They are offended by you;)))
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    7. Ujin61
      Ujin61 8 July 2014 18: 14
      0
      Constant climbing on the Ukrop information trash heaps discourages even reading such "messages"
    8. nycsson
      nycsson 8 July 2014 22: 39
      +1
      Blows to Donetsk ....
    9. Victoriavalk
      Victoriavalk 10 July 2014 16: 18
      0
      Now the girl who lives there in social networks wrote that no one was capturing anyone, it’s just that the wounded and dill and new Russians are lying there.
  2. Gagarin
    Gagarin 8 July 2014 16: 17
    +15
    IN THE INFORMATION WAR A CREATED FULL CHAOS.
    Any information now needs to be checked three times.
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 8 July 2014 16: 39
      +3
      There is no information war as such. There is only an endless outburst of the most "incredible" information, which is becoming more and more difficult to verify. The more information, the more difficult the check, at least by the time criterion.
      Now they will no longer pour out buckets, whole tanks of demolition tanks. Few still want to sort out the credibility. People are increasingly being led by the number of ...
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 8 July 2014 16: 50
      0
      Quote: Gagarin
      IN THE INFORMATION WAR A CREATED FULL CHAOS.
      Any information now needs to be checked three times.

      This is so, for the last two weeks I had to watch import channels - there are no words at all about the hostilities, as if there is simply nothing - about Iraq, Israel, Syria - as much as you like.
    3. s1н7т
      s1н7т 8 July 2014 18: 14
      +3
      So, Comrade Gagarin, ANY information is ALWAYS checked by at least 2 independent sources, and only then it, information, becomes data. But the media are not intelligence agencies, they write: 1. what is ordered; 2. that will attract attention and give a rating. This applies to all media - from the USA to the Russian Federation, incl. temporarily (and by misunderstanding) the existing dill.
  3. Russ69
    Russ69 8 July 2014 16: 17
    +51
    My friends informed me, a participant in this operation, about negative criticism from some “political scientists and analysts,” especially Kurginyan. They made seriously serious their “analyzes” about a certain agreement between Poroshenko and Strelkov to hand over Slavyansk and Semenovka in exchange for a corridor for us. The unit under my command from the destroyed Semenovka was the last to leave. Our group received an order after 0.15 minutes. (Moscow time) burn the headquarters of the garrison and fuel and lubricants, destroy all the valuable that the enemy can get and then leave for the city of Kramatorsk. This order had to be carried out during mortar and artillery shelling. The situation exactly repeats the orders of the commanders of the Red Army in 1941. At the same time, in a nightmare, no one can get the idea that the Red Army commanders agreed with the Wehrmacht generals on the safe evacuation and withdrawal of troops. When passing along the suburb of Slavyansk Cherevkovka, small detachments of militias began to adjoin our unit, which, as part of the column, fell under enemy artillery. This fact also proves the absurdity of the assumption of an agreement between Strelkov and Poroshenko, because violation of the contract is a good reason to return to defense again, which Poroshenko does not want so much. Repeatedly, our unit ran into Ukrainian checkpoints, in some places there were shootings. Also, our columns already far beyond Semenovka were fired by heavy artillery, where there were losses of personnel, both “200” and “300”.
    Honestly, now Kurginyan, whom we had hardly heard of before, is called a bastard and a freak in our country. He is in front of a camera with a fake machine PR on our blood.
    Summarizing the results of the Slavic-Semenov operation, we can safely appeal to critics by such facts:
    1. Less than a hundred militiamen arrived in Slavyansk to fight the Kiev junta, and more than two thousand people came out.
    2. The Ukrainian army is no longer able to control the movement of the Semen-Slavic group.
    3. The resources spent by the Ukrainian army, spent to destroy the militia, are colossal, moreover, they were wasted.
    4 The experience gained by the militias in the battles in Semenovka-Slavyansk created a real combat unit from the militias. Our sabotage groups are especially strong, which are strong at the level of any army. I think that over time, the experience of the Riflemen’s war will be studied in higher military educational institutions and used by commanders to solve strategic problems.

    Deputy com "Cedar"

    1. goland72
      goland72 8 July 2014 16: 24
      +2
      I just want to say: hold on, guys. For whom the truth is, he is stronger. And who is stronger now is obvious.
    2. Shurale
      Shurale 8 July 2014 16: 26
      +6
      And yesterday they were discussing on TV with a bunch of analysts: is it a mistake or not the introduction of troops into Iraq by America? Damn what a fuck fuck? They wanted to destroy the country - they destroyed it, what is the mistake of a goat in the crack?
    3. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 8 July 2014 16: 40
      +20
      As for Kurginyan, I agree to 146 percent. Already got this Internet warrior. Or he sat on the couch with Kalash felt himself an infallible commander. Suvorov Mlyn ...

      I would take a machine gun, but I would go into the trench, and there I would show my "strategic thinking". Gubarev, of course, is a very intelligent person, he would be a boor, he could just kick in the face, and the correctness itself, it is clear that he is holding back with difficulty, although he could offer to deliver Kurginyan to Strelkov along with a sofa and 2 machine guns, if the sofa strategist is afraid of meeting with those who dared not to die in Slavyansk.
      1. VengefulRat
        VengefulRat 8 July 2014 16: 53
        +3
        Here is the full version with a tantrum - a kurginyan.
        And here is a stripped-down one, where it was filmed from a different angle. And in the first minutes, like an inscription about some kind of (cardiology?) Department. Mb and in the hospital this hysterical kurgenyanovskoy snowstorm was removed. Moreover, Purgenyan himself claims that not one arrived, armed people with him. Or maybe I already have paranoia wassat against the backdrop of all this ukrovskaya turbidity, to which was added still a scorched hysteria wassat
        1. magadanets
          magadanets 8 July 2014 17: 09
          +9
          Gubarev is still a young man, inexperienced. One should not talk with such boors.
        2. VengefulRat
          VengefulRat 8 July 2014 17: 18
          +1
          And the clinic is such a Dobrobut ...
        3. draft
          draft 8 July 2014 18: 47
          +11
          Eh, Gubarev, Gubarev, you are a good person. But how does this suk provokes, and tries to disgrace the Light of the Russian people all over the world. He is worse than a clear enemy.
          And Gubarev ... brothers, look at him, he is ingenuous, he even lacks rudeness to answer "worthily." And we, some, revile him. Power is in the truth. God's power is perfect in weakness. I believe that Gubarev, the same hero as Strelkov, he proved this with his captivity and his fiery heart, he may not be very impressive outwardly (little charisma, etc.), but he is a real Russian! It hurts me to tears to see how "this" is trying to "bring Russian men to clean water."
          Well done guys, they behaved with dignity, and "this" is a shame for the rest of your life!
        4. Ramzaj99
          Ramzaj99 8 July 2014 19: 39
          +4
          Quote: VengefulRat
          version with a tantrum - kurginyanom

          There the time of empty chatter has already passed, the times there are not the same now. A couple more of these "interviews" and the old man will just get a butt in the teeth ..... and the tantrums will end there!
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        6. bigELDAK
          bigELDAK 8 July 2014 19: 51
          +2
          You give even more "PURGENYAN", and although it is a pity not only for him !!!
          1. bigELDAK
            bigELDAK 8 July 2014 22: 04
            +3
            Especially touches his "head light bulb", communication with the operator (4:40) and "Air defense duel" (5:13 as I understand it, a duel with a MANPADS in hand). wassat wassat wassat fellow
            1. bigELDAK
              bigELDAK 8 July 2014 23: 05
              +2
              With such advisers, enemies are not necessary ...
              1. Normal
                Normal 8 July 2014 23: 26
                +2
                Quote: bigELDAK
                With such advisers, enemies are not necessary ...

                good "+" !!!
      2. boboss
        boboss 8 July 2014 18: 59
        +1
        What does he need there? I decided to soak all my fascists with my tongue?
    4. tank64rus
      tank64rus 8 July 2014 16: 41
      +36
      What Kurganyan yelled, with your military maneuver, hit the punishers in Ukraine, and you got a rebound at scoundrels in Moscow as well. And very much judging by the inappropriate behavior of some. I served in the Soviet Army for 28 years. I can say that the exit from the encirclement was brilliant. Yes, there were losses, but this is a war, and it, as Stalin said, does not happen without losses. Those who served and fought know that the commander’s terrible cross is that he sometimes needs to condemn some people to death in order to defeat and save the rest. Develop a guerrilla struggle, strike communications. God and the Russian people are with you.
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 8 July 2014 19: 11
        +4
        When Kutuzov sent Bagration to cover SHENGRABEN, he said to Bolkonsky "I will pray to the Lord that every tenth from the detachment returned."
    5. tank64rus
      tank64rus 8 July 2014 16: 41
      +4
      What Kurganyan yelled, with your military maneuver, hit the punishers in Ukraine, and you got a rebound at scoundrels in Moscow as well. And very much judging by the inappropriate behavior of some. I served in the Soviet Army for 28 years. I can say that the exit from the encirclement was brilliant. Yes, there were losses, but this is a war, and it, as Stalin said, does not happen without losses. Those who served and fought know that the commander’s terrible cross is that he sometimes needs to condemn some people to death in order to defeat and save the rest. Develop a guerrilla struggle, strike communications. God and the Russian people are with you.
    6. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 8 July 2014 18: 16
      +3
      God bless you guys! Try, in fear of the enemy and in the joy of all who are waiting for you, to return alive!
    7. stapler
      stapler 8 July 2014 18: 33
      +9
      Kurginyan was hired ... -a talking head, against Strelkov, now his political science "career" will come from a clerk, if earlier he was tolerated, now they will switch channels. fufel.
  4. Old Cynic
    Old Cynic 8 July 2014 16: 17
    +4
    Today I’ll find out from mom whether it’s true or not. She is a doctor, she knows for sure ...
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 8 July 2014 16: 22
      +4
      I hope that partisans will expand their activities in Odessa ...

      08.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX. Message from the Odessa militia.
      "We fired at the Ukropsky checkpoint on the Odessa-Nikolaev highway near the village of Koshary. As a result of the attack, one junta soldier was wounded. The shelling began at about one in the morning. The fire was led by a dievsion group from a distance of about 30 meters, from the side of the road that leads to Koshary. Immediately after the shelling, our soldiers fled without getting involved in the battle. According to the Ukrainians, one of the soldiers on duty at the checkpoint was seriously wounded. The Nazis tried to catch the militias, but since they could not make out the color and make of the car, they failed. "
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 8 July 2014 16: 23
      0
      Quote: Old Cynic
      I’ll find out from mom today

      Mom in Donetsk? How does he feel about the DPR?
      1. Old Cynic
        Old Cynic 8 July 2014 17: 17
        +3
        How does he feel about the DPR?


        Who is he"? Donetsk?
        And mother with brother yes, in Donetsk, brother in the DPR army.
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 8 July 2014 17: 45
          0
          Quote: Old Cynic
          Who is he"?

          Sorry, I’m mistaken, of course, mom. That is, how does a local resident, seeing the situation from the inside, find current events and the DNI?
          1. Old Cynic
            Old Cynic 8 July 2014 17: 55
            +6
            Yes, she is there. He categorically refuses to leave, comes to scandals.
            He scolds the Kiev authorities, but he is only a little softer towards his own. She asked me: "Son, who are Pushilin and Gubarev"? I know better from Russia who, yeah !!!
            Ordinary people did not know them before the events.
            He tells a lot of stories, some of them I retold, you can look at my comments; transmits brother's stories. I myself do not call him for obvious reasons.

            So, at half past six I’ll call, ask about Kalinin’s hospital, she’s not far from her clinic. If I have time, I’ll briefly write that she will answer.
            The only thing I can say is that yesterday she confirmed that all pro-Kiev officials had chewed from Donetsk.
            1. Old Cynic
              Old Cynic 8 July 2014 18: 28
              +9
              Here is what mother says:
              The capture of the neurosurgical department confirms. Half of the masked people were with St. George ribbons. It was reported that the militia strengthens the protection of the wounded, for information was received about the cleansing of the wounded militia by terrorist groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
              Akhmetov urgently takes companies out of the city. A young family rented an apartment with neighbors, worked for Akhmetov. Yesterday they received an order to relocate to Dnepropetrovsk until Thursday. Anyone who does not want to lose their job. Today these people have left. Akhmetov promised housing in Dnepropetrovka at his own expense.
              That's all for now.
              1. s1н7т
                s1н7т 8 July 2014 18: 31
                0
                Quote: Old Cynic
                Half of the masked people were with St. George ribbons.

                Well, that still doesn't say anything. Bo DNR-sheep hospital seizure - why? And they always say: look for someone who benefits.
                1. Old Cynic
                  Old Cynic 8 July 2014 18: 32
                  +2
                  It was reported that the militia strengthens the protection of the wounded, for information was received about the cleansing of the wounded militia by terrorist groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
                2. g1v2
                  g1v2 8 July 2014 19: 22
                  +4
                  How is this why? The hospital is a strategic facility, there are wounded defenseless militias, there are medicines, dressings, doctors at last. A very competent step. To be honest, Strelkov grew up in my eyes in a week, as a commander every 2 times. He would have to set up a counterintelligence, otherwise the professional talker Kurginyan is hell with him, but Khodakovsky and other Ahmetka people can do a lot of dirty tricks.
                  1. Dali
                    Dali 8 July 2014 20: 40
                    +1
                    Yes, it was immediately clear that the dill was disinfectant, and RIAshniki was the 5th column.
                  2. Dali
                    Dali 8 July 2014 20: 40
                    0
                    Yes, it was immediately clear that the dill was disinfectant, and RIAshniki was the 5th column.
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 8 July 2014 16: 40
      -10
      Quote: Old Cynic
      Moms will find out, true or not. She is a doctor, she knows for sure.

      Is she a pathologist?
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 8 July 2014 17: 03
        -9
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Quote: Old Cynic
        Moms will find out, true or not. She is a doctor, she knows for sure.
        Is she a pathologist?

        There is a saying that the most accurate diagnosis is made by the pathologist. By definition, there is no crime in my specification. Who did not know the saying about the pathologist .. then I apologize to you ... Read, talk, accumulate life experience.
        1. Old Cynic
          Old Cynic 8 July 2014 17: 21
          +7
          Is she a pathologist?

          There is a saying that the most accurate diagnosis is made by the pathologist. By definition, there is no crime in my specification. Who did not know the saying about the pathologist .. then I apologize to you ... Read, talk, accumulate life experience.


          My friend, are you mindlessly, by chance, did not move? Do you at least understand what I said, or just "gasped into a puddle" just to make the bubbles go?
          Correctly someone did that both of your nonsense otminusovat.
          It would be better if you were silent, I would continue to consider you an intelligent person ...

          PS I personally will not minus it - disgusting.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 8 July 2014 18: 05
            -1
            Quote: Old Cynic
            PS I personally will not minus it - disgusting.

            Similarly, to express a common opinion is not to change the "picture".
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  5. MSA
    MSA 8 July 2014 16: 22
    0
    There is some kind of Beleberd, one must take such questions more seriously
  6. sever.56
    sever.56 8 July 2014 16: 22
    +2
    Another poppycock in the style of Avakov.
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 8 July 2014 16: 46
      +1
      Bullshit is predicted. The more she is, the more her supporters. Let one percent, let one man, but believe in bullshit. The more stuffing, the more such people
  7. VadimSt
    VadimSt 8 July 2014 16: 22
    +3
    The media, their mother ... Some journalists get truthful information, sometimes at the cost of their own lives, while others, by copying and pasting any source, - the main thing is to "cuckold".
  8. dima67
    dima67 8 July 2014 16: 23
    0
    Information war.
  9. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 8 July 2014 16: 23
    +11
    Well, well-propagandists are quite worthy of their teacher ...
    1. armageddon
      armageddon 8 July 2014 16: 32
      0
      Hmm ... Ukrop journalists-natsik: long time students of Himler !!!
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 8 July 2014 16: 43
      +18
      Brainwashing is in full swing ...
      1. fatix80
        fatix80 8 July 2014 16: 51
        +1
        At where such nonsense ????
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 8 July 2014 17: 06
          +2
          Quote: fatix80
          At where such nonsense ????

          For a start, you can read the censor .. A very "informative" site ... laughing
      2. old man
        old man 8 July 2014 21: 42
        +1
        Wo, Wo !! gas for the blue.
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 8 July 2014 17: 33
      0
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Well, well-propagandists are quite worthy of their teacher ...

      Yes, and the "locals" did not lag behind. "Sweet couple" - Yakovlev / Korotich.
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  11. skylare
    skylare 8 July 2014 16: 25
    +2
    It looks like another misinformation. Recently, the golden rule applies to information from the South-East: "Do not trust, but double-check. Preferably several times." Something like this.
  12. pts-m
    pts-m 8 July 2014 16: 28
    +1
    Wukras are in their own style, well, what can you do? Well, they’re very fond of operetta performances with seizures of institutions and also of militias, followed by five minutes of joining the ranks of the guard.
  13. fatix80
    fatix80 8 July 2014 16: 29
    +1
    Is there a militia in Odessa?
  14. Belarus
    Belarus 8 July 2014 16: 31
    +29
    The fact that a complete mess is going on in the DPR is so clear. Strelkov got all the junta cards in the liberals of Moscow who spoke out and stand for the quiet drain of Donetsk. In particular, Akhmetov and Surkov + Kurginyan are furious now that Strelkov came to Donetsk.
    Now everything will be done in order to discredit and denigrate those forces that prevent Donetsk from merging quietly.
    they will say everything that doesn’t fall on Strelkov and those who support him, so don’t immediately go to extremes believes everything.

    Personally, I believe that Strelkov wants to help the DPR and New Russia.
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 8 July 2014 16: 36
      +16
      Quote: Belarus
      Personally, I believe that Strelkov wants to help the DPR and New Russia.

      I certainly trust the combat officer, who showed himself in business, Strelkov more than Akhmetov, Surkov, Kurginyan or even Putin. This is the man who never passes his, not from that test.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 8 July 2014 16: 42
        +3
        Quote: volot-voin
        or even Putin.

        And Putin is a military officer, by the way. He alone with a pistol confronted a crowd of West Germans at the Soviet intelligence building when the Berlin wall collapsed. And he stood, and won.
        1. MAG
          MAG 8 July 2014 16: 49
          +5
          "And Putin is a military officer, by the way. He alone with a pistol confronted a crowd of West Germans outside the Soviet intelligence building when the Berlin Wall came down. And he survived and won." Who told you that? As Professor Preobrazhensky said, read less Soviet newspapers.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 8 July 2014 17: 57
            +1
            Now believe me ?:
            1. Frate
              Frate 8 July 2014 19: 14
              0
              We trusted Markus Wolf, who did not know the Dresden "agent".
              And, here, I do not advise you to trust the guard. However, as you wish!
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 8 July 2014 19: 32
                +1
                Maybe ask the Dresden people themselves? AND?
                1. Frate
                  Frate 8 July 2014 21: 00
                  0
                  Already asked :)
            2. MAG
              MAG 8 July 2014 19: 35
              +2
              I won't believe it))))) I watched this program for a long time and then, by virtue of my capabilities, I checked it on the Internet. Do not believe it))) - but in Dresden itself about "THIS EPOCHAL EVENT" no one knows anything and the existing "witnesses" in Germany itself have an ambiguous reputation for all their small numbers (and Karaulov has thousands).
            3. Roman 11
              Roman 11 8 July 2014 19: 44
              +1
              Yeah, now we believe. Long live the great Pu. Someday Karaulov and his comrades will nail down there a marble tablet about the immortal feat of the famous lieutenant colonel comrade Pu. Like its own Brezhnev "Small Land" in a great victory! So? And then it will rain of golden stars .......
            4. DMB-88
              DMB-88 9 July 2014 00: 02
              -1
              with such a blizzard, you to Purginyan))))
        2. volot-voin
          volot-voin 8 July 2014 16: 52
          +16
          Quote: Uncle
          And Putin is a military officer, by the way. He alone with a pistol confronted a crowd of West Germans at the Soviet intelligence building when the Berlin wall collapsed. And he stood, and won.

          Of course, Putin has merit. Competent game in the political arena, a lucrative contract with China, a special merit of the Crimea. Do not forget South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the patriotic turn of 2014 ... In the course and history of the building of Soviet intelligence.
          I even understand that at the crossing (in war) horses are not changed.
          But kill him completely, I can’t.
          There are a lot of problems unresolved in 12 years in the Russian Federation: illegal migration from Central Asian countries, housing and communal services, a rollback economic system, corruption, patronage of diasporas, ... many others. The situation with Serdyukov and his women is ugly (the villain didn’t sit down, others planted less.) I do not like the situation with New Russia, this trade when people die.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 8 July 2014 17: 18
            +4
            Quote: volot-voin
            There are a lot of problems unresolved in 12 years in the Russian Federation: illegal migration from Central Asian countries, housing and communal services, a rollback economic system, corruption, patronage of diasporas, ... many others. The situation with Serdyukov and his women is ugly (the villain didn’t sit down, others planted less.) I do not like the situation with New Russia, this trade when people die.

            I agree completely and completely. But remember how we lived under Yeltsin, when shooting was heard every day in Moscow, the bandits chewed up, MMM, empty store shelves? A heavy legacy remains, plus Chubais, Gaidar and other evil spirits. But Putin is not Hercules, in order to clean out the Augean stables in one fell swoop.
            1. s1н7т
              s1н7т 8 July 2014 18: 33
              -3
              It’s called Uncle, but write baby talk, sorry!
            2. DMB-88
              DMB-88 9 July 2014 00: 07
              -1
              Pu was Yeltsin’s direct heir, and that’s all said and done so much that even an officer court condemned him for treason.
              For which Ilyukhin was sent to the other world !!!
        3. s1н7т
          s1н7т 8 July 2014 18: 28
          +2
          Quote: Uncle
          a crowd of West Germans at a Soviet intelligence building when the Berlin Wall collapsed

          Hm. In Dresden, too, the Berlin Wall collapsed ?! laughing
    2. Yapet100
      Yapet100 8 July 2014 16: 39
      +7
      Quote: Belarus
      The fact that a complete mess is going on in the DPR is so clear. Strelkov got all the junta cards in the liberals of Moscow who spoke out and stand for the quiet drain of Donetsk. In particular, Akhmetov and Surkov + Kurginyan are furious now that Strelkov came to Donetsk.
      Now everything will be done in order to discredit and denigrate those forces that prevent Donetsk from merging quietly.
      they will say everything that doesn’t fall on Strelkov and those who support him, so don’t immediately go to extremes believes everything.

      Personally, I believe that Strelkov wants to help the DPR and New Russia.

      Surkov's whole family lives in London ...
      Conclusions themselves suggest themselves ...
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 8 July 2014 16: 45
        +8
        Quote: Yapet100
        Surkov's whole family lives in London ...

        And I thought in Donetsk ...
        1. Hariva
          Hariva 8 July 2014 16: 50
          +8
          Quote: Uncle
          Quote: Yapet100
          Surkov's whole family lives in London ...

          And I thought in Donetsk ...

          Thin. I respect you. )))
    3. old man
      old man 8 July 2014 21: 44
      +5
      Drive on x. Kurginyan. AGGRESSIVE BALABOL.
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 9 July 2014 00: 09
        0
        Trojan horse kremlyley)
  15. Homo sapiens
    Homo sapiens 8 July 2014 16: 46
    +6
    Personally, I believe that Strelkov wants to help the DPR and New Russia.[/ Quote]
    100% !!! Of course!!!
  16. raccoon
    raccoon 8 July 2014 16: 50
    +8
    OSCE bomb for Ukraine: Crimea withdrew to Russia through restitution.
    http://novorus.info/news/policy/24858-bomba-dlya-ukrainy-ot-obse-krym-otoshel-k-
    rossii-v-poryadke-restitucii.html Now they really will jump ......... yaki fleas !!!
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 8 July 2014 18: 03
      +4
      They will not skip, they will cry when Western Europe will squeeze out their property ... The courts have already been in their favor, as they say, they are at a low start! Volyn, Lvov, Ternopil, who will go to? ... run gentlemen "Ukrainians", run!
    2. boomerang.
      boomerang. 8 July 2014 18: 06
      +2
      In response raccoon
      OSCE bomb for Ukraine: Crimea withdrew to Russia through restitution.

      If true, then this is the best news!
      Hooray! angry
      thanks a lot love drinks
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  17. rudi26
    rudi26 8 July 2014 16: 55
    +2
    Something tells me, oh, how all these cleverly wise undertakings against the states themselves will come across.
  18. kelevra
    kelevra 8 July 2014 16: 59
    +2
    Really stupid, why should their own militias seize their own hospital! Apparently dill wanted to arrange some kind of provocation and it didn’t work! So they blurted out that the first thing came to mind!
    1. X Y Z
      X Y Z 8 July 2014 17: 27
      +2
      The key word here is "yourself". They themselves let the rocket into the air conditioner, bombed Slavyansk themselves, seized the hospital themselves. All by ourselves.
  19. Partisan Kramaha
    Partisan Kramaha 8 July 2014 17: 13
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Brainwashing is in full swing ...

    Particularly difficult case! This imbitsil at least looked into the encyclopedia.
  20. raccoon
    raccoon 8 July 2014 17: 21
    +2
    I propose a mini-vote ........ The future president of Russia: put + Strelkov; put - Putin !!!
    I wonder who will win?
  21. BIP PS FSB RF
    BIP PS FSB RF 8 July 2014 17: 34
    +1
    I’m wondering ... When the war ends, it doesn’t matter which way, how Ukraine will make excuses for the losses ... If there are still People on the other side, they will overthrow this power to hell’s grandmother ...!
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 8 July 2014 18: 04
      +4
      And it will be, Ukraine, then?
  22. Asklepium
    Asklepium 8 July 2014 18: 05
    +1
    Off-topic, but such window dressing from pravosekov amused
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KNCiHOqqjIk
    The rookeries of seals and the rushing of the monkey are so clean-up in Pravoseksky. They only know how to rob and shoot women and old people from the rear.
    PS What else smiled is that they communicate in Russian, not in Mov. Everything is like in that joke: - "Are there any rocks?"; - "No !; -" Good! Then we don't show off and speak Russian "
    1. Anper
      Anper 8 July 2014 19: 01
      0
      Quote: Asklepium
      Off-topic, but such window dressing from pravosekov amused

      http://putnik1.livejournal.com/
      Great addition.
      Whoever understands at least a little the basics of physiognomy, having looked at the speech of a fat geek, will cease to doubt even if he doubted. But there was no doubt that the commander and commissar of the Sonderkommando were intent on recruiting new meat: they weren’t bad meat, so that you don’t understand why die for some Ukraine.
  23. Mol
    Mol 8 July 2014 18: 12
    +9
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    08.07.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Message from A. Dugin

    "Right now, there is a clear watershed: for Strelkov / against Strelkov. Arguments are not important. They are for cover. For Strelkov, for Novorossia. Against Strelkov (for any arguments), for discharging Novorossiya.
    All the stories about Strelkov against Putin (from whatever side they were heard) are provocations. Shooters need Putin to save New Russia (and this means saving Putin, and therefore Russia). Strelkov needs Putin to save Novorossia, and Novorossia is needed by the Russian People, whose Strelkov is the fixation point today. Everything is very clear. I am for Strelkova. I am for New Russia. I am for the DNI. I am for Gubarev. I am for Russia. I'm for the Russians. "

    Interesting, but you can be for Strelkova. For New Russia. For the DNI. For Gubarev. For Russia. For the Russians. But against Putin ?! Or when you say Putin, do you mean Russia, when you say Russia, do you mean Putin ?! And whoever is against that crest ?! Then how do you differ from Svidomo ?! When I say Putin, I mean Putin, oligarchs, lies, ruffles, corruption, poverty, betrayal, intrigues, clans, Medvedev, Surkov, Shuvalov, Sechin, Dvorkovich, Vekselberg, Timchenko, Rotenberg, etc. (the list goes on). In order to save Russia, you need to get rid of this, because THEY are not RUSSIA! Do you really consider yourself, your friends, countrymen, Russians without Putin to be worthless, incapable of cattle ?! Strelkov and Novorossia do not need Putin (but Putin needs them to save his rating, although he would be fine without them), they need OFFICIAL help and recognition from Russia.
    1. DMB-88
      DMB-88 9 July 2014 00: 14
      -1
      MOL Great post! Respect to you!
  24. Prutkov
    Prutkov 8 July 2014 18: 22
    +1
    Therefore, in 1917, they created an organization called the EMERGENCY COMMISSION FOR COMBATING Sabotage and Banditry. All former officials remaining in their posts should go through it.
  25. demotivator
    demotivator 8 July 2014 18: 40
    +6
    In any case, such information, which was also disseminated by many Russian news agencies (in particular, RIA Novosti), needs to be carefully checked, because if militias were treated in the hospital, then what is the point of “seizing” a medical facility for the comrades of these militias?

    Now is the time for provocations and information war. The Germans "suddenly discovered" the burial place of the Polish military in Katyn only in 1943. - the time was not chosen by chance. After the defeat at the Kursk Bulge, it became clear to Hitler that soon the war would go beyond the USSR and the Soviet soldier would come to Europe and Germany. And immediately Goebbels released this myth about the execution of Polish officers, allegedly by the NKVD. The goal is to mortally scare the Europeans, and somehow rally them to fight the USSR.
    So, the new Katyn is not far off. According to the available information, the Kiev punishers, who entered the Slavyansk abandoned by the rebels, are preparing a staging for the "world community" in the outskirts of the city. Foreign TV crews will be led to the previously prepared "mass graves" in which they will find "prisoners of war" and "civilians" allegedly shot by soldiers of the DPR Defense Minister Igor Strelkov. The accusation will be immediately supported by the leading Western media, Russian liberals and lackeys, such as Kurginyan, and there you will see the Hague Tribunal hurry up.
  26. Roman 11
    Roman 11 8 July 2014 18: 50
    +3
    Kurginians are hysterical, he will only prevent people from fighting. Something reminds mehlis - an army political commissar, general phrases like "I hate the Internet scum" talking about deep age-related changes with which not to wander around hot spots, but to grow cucumbers in the country. If he continues to hysteria instead of transferring experience, it will be a demoralization for the defense and an outlet for the junta ....... maybe the cuckoo is really closed?
  27. olegkrava
    olegkrava 8 July 2014 19: 00
    -1
    Quote: c1n7
    Hm. Did the Berlin Wall collapse in Dresden?

    You moron, how much do you know from Berlin to Dresden?
    I'll get drunk in two hours. Of you uncle as a hammer from my impeachment.
  28. Frate
    Frate 8 July 2014 19: 09
    +1
    Quote: MAG
    "And Putin is a military officer, by the way. He alone with a pistol confronted a crowd of West Germans outside the Soviet intelligence building when the Berlin Wall came down. And he survived and won." Who told you that? As Professor Preobrazhensky said, read less Soviet newspapers.


    Especially Mr. Karaulov :)
  29. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 8 July 2014 19: 36
    +2
    Quote: Belarus
    Personally, I believe that Strelkov wants to help the DPR and New Russia.

    I believe!
    Wants!
    Can!
    God save your faithful son, known as II. Shooters!
  30. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 8 July 2014 20: 02
    0
    if the secret services of the junta have taken the Internet under the strictest control, then the new republics do not get their hands on this, but it would be necessary to investigate the resonant stuffing, and "Bloggers" involved in slander should be calculated and punished, not to shoot, of course, but let's say a broom in the hands, or dismantle the rubble from the activities of ukrvoyak
  31. Nina Zima
    Nina Zima 8 July 2014 21: 55
    +1
    CONTACTS OF MOBILIZATION DEPARTMENTS OF THE DPR DEFENSE MINISTRY MOBILIZATION DEPARTMENT:

    ДОНЕЦК: 095-636-05-20 ; 093-398-46-67 ; 099-121-07-43 ; 096-045-84-78

    ACCEPTANCE OF APPLICATIONS: [email protected]

    RUSSIA:

    PHONE: +7 9264289951

    8-967-171-27-09

    E-MAIL: [email protected]

    Vladislav Brig
  32. Barakuda
    Barakuda 8 July 2014 23: 50
    0
    Not quite patriotic. I tried to Kramatorsk, returned twice.
    If they take to Donetsk and Lugansk without a fight, and without the support of Russia, this is an axiom.
    Is the stupid Ukrainian government ... the population will never forgive them for this.
  33. Gradus HuK
    Gradus HuK 9 July 2014 00: 00
    0
    Quote: Anper
    Quote: Asklepium
    Off-topic, but such window dressing from pravosekov amused

    http://putnik1.livejournal.com/
    Great addition.
    Whoever understands at least a little the basics of physiognomy, having looked at the speech of a fat geek, will cease to doubt even if he doubted. But there was no doubt that the commander and commissar of the Sonderkommando were intent on recruiting new meat: they weren’t bad meat, so that you don’t understand why die for some Ukraine.

    Cheese land is waiting for the pig.
  34. DMB-88
    DMB-88 9 July 2014 00: 16
    -1
    Kurginyan has been PR for two years on the second channel, supposedly all such a Soviet!
    and then merged the entire protest movement on poklonnaya.
    Despise, I am now!
  35. pvv113
    pvv113 9 July 2014 00: 39
    +5
    donpress.com - prokiev resource

    In the stories of Baron Munchausen there is more truth than in all Ukrainian media combined
  36. Zomanus
    Zomanus 9 July 2014 02: 43
    0
    Rather, he did not capture, but took control. Because my seizure is associated with the termination of the hospital. And here they simply took protection.
    And Kurginyan, yes, he began to shut himself in full.
  37. zone72
    zone72 9 July 2014 06: 00
    0
    Putin is very bad people donbass passed but the pipe puts an udot