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The first serial anti-submarine aircraft Il-38H for naval aviation of the Russian Navy

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At OJSCAviation complex to them. S. V. Ilyushin "(United Aircraft Corporation) completed the repair and modernization of the first mass-produced anti-submarine aircraft Il-38N, built for the Russian Navy, reports "Military Industrial Courier". As part of the contract provides for the serial modernization of 5 aircraft.

The first serial anti-submarine aircraft Il-38H for naval aviation of the Russian Navy


The plane was received by representatives of the customer, in the near future he will fly to one of the military units of the naval aviation of the Navy. In the process of modernization, he received a new search and sighting system "Novella-P-38", which greatly expanded the combat capabilities of the machine.

By decision of the naval aviation command, the aircraft will be named after Radiy Petrovich Papkovsky, the famous designer of the Ilyushin Design Bureau, who worked on the creation of the Il-38.

At present, overhaul and modernization of the Il-18 and Il-76 aircraft of various modifications is being carried out at IL. In the first half of the year, customers received 4 renovated and modernized aircraft. On 2014, the delivery of updated machines is scheduled for 11.

The company is engaged in development work and modernization of the IL-20, IL-22 aircraft, the IL-76MDM / IL-76MD-90A and An-124 military transport, and the anti-submarine IL-38. Work has begun to develop a light transport aircraft IL-112 commissioned by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
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  1. Yellow white
    Yellow white 8 July 2014 12: 46
    +9
    Give the country more cars, good and different good
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. portoc65
      portoc65 8 July 2014 12: 48
      +8
      Almost every day, samples of new equipment come out, it is clear that the Army took its re-equipment seriously, it really pleases and causes a feeling of pride
    3. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 8 July 2014 12: 50
      +22
      Beauties. Just Super !!!!! Clear Skies !!!
      1. Ghjynjyjoiiyr
        Ghjynjyjoiiyr 8 July 2014 14: 22
        +1
        A good IL-18 aircraft, once flew a passenger in it, only it buzzes a lot.
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 9 July 2014 02: 57
        0
        cool photo .. And why "mirror"?
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 8 July 2014 13: 05
      +5
      It’s a good thing to turn old cars into solid modern combat aircraft.
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 8 July 2014 13: 08
      +6
      All of these aircraft with excellent performance characteristics, having gone through modernization, they will serve Russia very worthily, good news.
    7. Juborg
      Juborg 8 July 2014 14: 35
      +4
      This news seems to be no longer news, but last year’s snow, in the literal sense. This news was announced on December 19, 2013. Good luck to our aviation.
  2. Corsair
    Corsair 8 July 2014 12: 46
    +5
    Quote: from article
    The contract provides for serial modernization of 5 aircraft.

    Of course the good news, but is FIVE enough?
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 8 July 2014 12: 52
      +8
      There are planes and newer. The Be-200 is planned for the Baltic, the rest will also be replaced, apparently. But for patrolling the ice of the Arctic, IL-38 is just that. Proven aircraft with the ability to land on ice airfields.
      I did not set a minus))
      1. boom_bah
        boom_bah 8 July 2014 13: 06
        +4
        And how will the Be-200 replace the IL-38?
      2. VAF
        VAF 8 July 2014 18: 51
        +2
        Quote: chunga-changa
        Be-200 is planned for the Baltic,


        To plan. You need to at least start producing them .. this is the first.
        The second is when the extreme Be-200 released by Irkut took to the air?
        Third, how many years have they been "trying" in Taganrog to start the release?
        Fourth, where you will get motors ... "schedulers" belay
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 8 July 2014 19: 16
          0
          I do not know. However, Interfax wrote that they plan to restore the hydroaerodrome in Baltiysk based on the Be-200. The first car is planned for late 14, early 15 years. For what I bought, for that I sell it. As for the details and your doubts, this is to interfax.
    2. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 8 July 2014 12: 53
      +4
      Not enough, naturally!
      Interestingly, and who slammed you for the minus question?
      Corrected this ...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 8 July 2014 13: 03
        +3
        Quote: Old Cynic
        Interestingly, and who slammed you for the minus question?

        Greetings!
        All my life I’ve been taught that DEMAND WILL NOT BLOW IN THE NOSE ... And here it is laughing
        1. Old Cynic
          Old Cynic 8 July 2014 13: 07
          +3
          Greetings! hi

          No, well, I would write: "For being too curious," for example. At least it would be understandable ...
      2. VAF
        VAF 8 July 2014 18: 44
        0
        Quote: Old Cynic
        Interestingly, and who slammed you for the minus question?


        Я soldier solely for ... "good news" sad here's the next part. where is the question for 5 pieces to Corsair + in the next comment! soldier where about demand. which will not hit the nose drinks
    3. cosmos111
      cosmos111 8 July 2014 13: 36
      +8
      The first serial anti-submarine aircraft IL-38N for naval aviation

      why not amphibious aircraft ????
      there is, already in the Be 200 series, put the equipment on patrol too ...

      and if brought to a series of multi-purpose amphibious aircraft A-40 ... has no analogues in the world !!!
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 8 July 2014 14: 11
        +2
        Quote: cosmos111
        put the equipment and on patrol ..
        Practical range is clearly insufficient
  3. evilrussian
    evilrussian 8 July 2014 12: 50
    +1
    Great news! The fleet is in great need of re-equipment of many means. We wait..
  4. Old Cynic
    Old Cynic 8 July 2014 12: 51
    +8
    Something with I do not understand again, gentlemen ...

    The first production anti-submarine aircraft ...
    If he first, why is it already being renovated and modernized?
    If he serial, why such a beggarly series? And is it possible to call 5 pieces a series?

    The title, apparently, needs to be corrected. Something like: "The first of five in service ..." - and further in the text.
    1. boom_bah
      boom_bah 8 July 2014 13: 12
      +5
      The first serial IL-38Н... This is a modification of the Il-38 with a new PPS "Novella", like everything is indicated in the article. The modernization was carried out during the planned repairs. Five units. not enough, but everything is limited by production capabilities.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 8 July 2014 13: 20
        +2
        Quote: boom_bah
        Five units not enough, but everything is limited by production capabilities.

        But this is ALREADY ...
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 8 July 2014 13: 59
          +1
          Quote: Corsair
          But this is ALREADY ...

          While the contract for 5 pieces, this does not mean that there will be no others.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 9 July 2014 07: 47
            0
            Quote: Russ69
            While the contract for 5 pieces, this does not mean that there will be no others.

            I'm talking about "limited production capabilities" ...
        2. Aljavad
          Aljavad 9 July 2014 03: 00
          0
          For the company, Ilyushin, the most important thing is leasing operations. It’s good that we were able to redesign the IL-76 for a new plant and engines ....
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 July 2014 13: 13
      +4
      Quote: Old Cynic
      If he is the first, why is it already being renovated and modernized?

      The base of the IL-38 is no longer new, the beginning of operation from the 1969 of the year, was made before 1972, therefore, repair!
      Navy Aviation - 40 IL-38 (+ 12 in storage), as of 2013 year. By 2020 year, 28 IL-38 will be upgraded, the name and modification parameters are not given.
      Quote: Old Cynic
      If it is serial, then why such a beggarly series? And can 5 pieces be called a series?

      Small series for running all the nodes, followed by an increase in the series! hi
      1. Old Cynic
        Old Cynic 8 July 2014 13: 22
        +4
        Damn, comrades! Yes, I spoke about the discrepancy between the title of the article and its content.
        And to you, boom_bah and Sid. 74 - thanks!

        PS
        but everything is limited by production capabilities.

        And I would add "the production capabilities remaining in the ranks."
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 8 July 2014 16: 27
        +4
        Quote: Sid.74
        By 2020, 28 IL-38 will be upgraded, the name and modification parameters are not given.

        Search and find!

        The general director of OJSC "AK Ilyushin" Yu. Mikhailovich said that the IL-38P was "an absolutely secret aircraft." But if the platform was patched up and the bearing units were replaced, then the "stuffing" was radically changed. They threw out "Berkut" (1960s) and installed PPS "Novella P-38". It's the whole point!
        REC "Novella" Designed to equip maritime aircraft.
        The complex includes:
        - high-resolution radar system (radar);
        - thermal television system (TTS "Lannar-A"), providing control and reception of information via television and thermal imaging channels with gyroscopic stabilization (produced by JSC NPO Karat);
        - radio-acoustic system (RGS);
        - magnetometric system (MMS);
        - electronic intelligence system (STRT);
        - command and tactical system (CCC).
        The Novella is capable of detecting air, surface and underwater targets (it slipped that the FALSE targets too!), Control the flight of an aircraft along a given path when searching for submarines, and also generate signals for resetting search and tracking tools. At the same time, MAGNETOMETRIC buoys and RSLBs for the first time appeared on a new elemental base - EXCELLENT foreign analogues!
        Novella detects air targets up to 90 km, surface - up to 320 km. At the same time, tracking of up to 50 objects (surface targets) can be carried out simultaneously.
        REC "Novella-P-38" can search for sunken ships, and with the help of the TTS, find people caught in water from distressed ships.
        REC “Novella” is a multiprocessor complex, all of whose systems exchange data between themselves and aircraft equipment via standard digital channels. The REC includes three universal workstations (URM) equipped with LCD monitors and touch control panels with a replaceable reconfigurable panel. The URM allows you to manage any selected system of the complex, display various information from the system on 2 screens at the same time if necessary (for example, from TLV and IR channels) or manage two systems at the same workplace.
        The development of the "Novels" is carried out by the St. Petersburg Scientific Research Institute of System Engineering. Novella REC was installed on IL-38P aircraft, and in the export version of Sea Snake REC on IL-38SD Indian Navy.
        On May 25.05.2013, 3, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation signed a 5-year contract with OJSC "IL" for the modernization of 3,45 units. worth 2020 billion rubles. In total, 28 aircraft will undergo modernization under SDO 2012. Prior to that, in 6, 38 Il-8 mods were upgraded for the Indian Navy. SD (See Dragon). It was this development (JSC "Leninets") that formed the basis for "Novella" and, according to the statement of our designers, was brought to the Amer PXNUMX Poseydon.
        What's new. Broadband, highly sensitive RTR system; RSLA and Magnetometric buoys of increased sensitivity (better than the adversary); GRAVITY anomaly sensors (!), laser, TLV and IR sensors combined into one OPTOELECTRONIC search system and updates. goals.
        The complex is capable of compiling (!) MAGNETIC and GRAVITY maps of the Arctic Ocean!
        I don’t stop at TTX, they are given quite fully downstream.
        About the production base. The glider is sorted out on 2 sites, 2 places each at the "EMZ named after Myasishchego" (near Moscow, Zhukovsky), and the "Novella" is hung at the JSC "20th ARZ", Pushkin, near St. Petersburg.
        1. Aljavad
          Aljavad 9 July 2014 03: 10
          0
          "EMZ named after Myasishchego"

          Very good interesting stuff. But what did you call the designer for?
          Not polite.
    3. VAF
      VAF 8 July 2014 18: 48
      0
      Quote: Old Cynic
      Something like: "The first of five in service ..."


      No wrong .. "The first of five REMAINING armed with "now if they wrote so. as it is actually. then all your questions. which you put on .. 2 neponyatkam2 would disappear by themselves!" soldier
  5. djqnbdjqnb
    djqnbdjqnb 8 July 2014 12: 52
    +2
    As I understand it, its prototype is the IL-18, created back in the late 50s. Not too old, not sprinkled?
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 8 July 2014 13: 12
      +3
      Should not. The set of the 18th case is quite strong, the IL-18 trunk lines were held somewhere until the beginning of the 90s. For Severs, what needs to be hung will be long, if it is possible to refuel. The most important thing is that, as always, they would not forget to build a warm toilet in the Yeroplan. And then the men have to train patience.
  6. kitpit
    kitpit 8 July 2014 12: 53
    +2
    Well, yes, it’s not enough for all fleets.
  7. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 8 July 2014 12: 53
    +10
    Handsome plane!

    IL-38, Elizovo, Pacific Fleet, very beautiful:


    Ks tati, what about the development of a new basic patrol aircraft based on the Tu-204, similar to the American P-8 Poseidon? The joke is that there is no other carrier for equipment of this dimension.
    The A-40 "Albatro" was built in a single copy and it is rather a prototype, and the MS-21 is only in the drawings. All the others are either small and do not have sufficient flight range or are too healthy.
    1. BYV
      BYV 8 July 2014 13: 08
      +18
      And the report was led by Igor Kornelyuk. Land him rest in peace.
    2. VAF
      VAF 8 July 2014 19: 12
      0
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Cc Tati, but what about the development of a new base patrol aircraft based on the Tu-204,


      No way! soldier

      Quote: Novel 1977
      similar to the American P-8 Poseidon?


      I wanted to be outraged at first, and then I read further good only the joke is not in this, but in the fact that there is no equipment like that on Poseidon, let alone missiles !!! soldier

      Quote: Novel 1977
      A-40 "Albatro" was built in a single copy and it is rather a prototype,


      I was in two .. "half-dead" alone, yes, and he is already more in the state of a monument than the prototype crying
  8. pvv113
    pvv113 8 July 2014 12: 56
    +4
    Good news. It’s nice to know that Russia is once again becoming the world's leading aviation power! good
    1. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 8 July 2014 13: 17
      +8
      And here let me disagree with you, Dear!
      It is nice to know that even though we are deeply modernizing and repairing the old, it’s true that it is a sin to conceal.
      And it will be possible to say that Russia "is again becoming the leading world aviation power" when all Boeings and Airbuses go bankrupt, unable to withstand the competition from our Tu, Il, Yak ...

      We would first have to restore at least the Soviet level of development of the aviation industry ...
  9. Yellow white
    Yellow white 8 July 2014 12: 58
    +2
    It is interesting that Honduras minus both articles and comments, quiet guy .... la!
  10. severniy
    severniy 8 July 2014 13: 00
    -1
    "" "" "" "" "repair and modernization completed" "" "" "" ""
    "
    , therefore, we are not developing ..., modernization is our chip ...
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 8 July 2014 13: 08
      +3
      Quote: severniy
      therefore, we are not developing ..., modernization is our chip ...

      Not only we, but also, for example, the United States is in no hurry to write off its Orion and Sky Hawk for scrap ...
      IL38 is a reliable, time-tested PLATFORM, and "inventing the lisapet" in the presence of a wonderful glider at this time (do you feel the fire of war outside the window?) Is inexpedient ...
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 8 July 2014 13: 19
        +8
        During the years of the USSR, a number of PLO aircraft were created, which "migrated" to the aviation of the Russian Navy. So, Tu-142 - long-range, Il-38 - medium-range and Be-12 - near-field. Tu-142's, "on the wing" there are not so many left, at the beginning of 2014, one squadron in the Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet - however, there is a possibility of extending their service life due to the fleet of Tu-95 strategists (the last ones were produced until the mid-80s). Il-38 - 40 Il-38 (+12 in storage), as of 2013, by 2020 they plan to modernize 28 Il-38, somehow the process has moved off the ground. Be-12 - in recent years do not appear at all, it seems they are almost all on decommissioning. What do we have in return? The protracted A-42 project? The military is not satisfied with it. The characteristics of the car were weak. Now it is positioned only as a replacement for the Be-12. Do we need such an anti-submarine aircraft? - Probably not. As a rescuer will go, but no more. We are looking at the Il-114P project - rather a patrol aircraft than with the functions of an anti-aircraft defense. It acts in the same niche as the An-72P. All that remains is the Tu-204P or Tu-214P project, it seems that its project exists, its supposed photograph.
      2. severniy
        severniy 8 July 2014 13: 43
        -3
        "" "Corsair (2) UA Today, 13:08 ↑
        Quote: severniy
        therefore, we are not developing ..., modernization is our chip ...
        Not only we, but also, for example, the United States is in no hurry to write off its Orion and Sky Hawk for scrap ...
        IL38 is a reliable, time-tested PLATFORM, and "inventing the lisapet" in the presence of a wonderful glider at this time (do you feel the smoke of war outside the window?) Is inappropriate ... "" ""

        Well, I suppose you also drive the "time-tested" Vaz 21-01 ?, and Bulgakhter's accounts are at hand ?, the most reliable and by the way also "time-tested" computer? ... And about "inventing", I'm not talking about this the moment (when there is a fire in the house and a pitchfork, like a fire engine) speech of course in general, dear ... we do not move progress, so to speak ..
        PS trash it is trash and there is, as you do not upgrade it .., IMHO naturally ...
    2. jayich
      jayich 8 July 2014 14: 33
      0
      People you already got our car industry to slander, or remind you of Mini about the Beetle, and in general, a foreign car full of ge not intended for our roads.
      Here, explain to me if there is a good reliable glider that has not worked out its resource, is there an opportunity to put up-to-date radio electronics, replace engines, does it make sense to fence a garden?
      Take for example the Defendre bucket that has been produced for about 40 years, and no one says that the car is rubbish, and the people are ready to lay out and lay out a cloud of money for it.
      1. severniy
        severniy 8 July 2014 14: 45
        0
        I drive an Audi 80 B4, 1992 onwards, before that vases 2103-1974, 2107-2004, 21099-1996 and 2000, we will not raise the topic about the quality of cars, who compared, he knows, but about the roads .. that Well, I didn’t come up with the idea: “that only the Russians will not invent, that only the roads should not be built, ...”, something like that, but the auto industry .., hmm, g ... but no matter how you smear it, it’s no better, no worse does not become ..., can the current be more expensive .. that they are already there? at the level of 400-450 tyrov ?, Hochma ..
        PS. and a foreign car (it's not about cherry, fau and the like)
        tolerates our roads much better .., I know what I'm talking about ...
      2. severniy
        severniy 8 July 2014 14: 50
        0
        sorry, not the topic of modernization, but next to my basin are nervously smoking ..
        I don’t argue, I want to be proud, but alas ... while there are so few reasons oh ....
        1. jayich
          jayich 8 July 2014 15: 19
          +1
          I don’t know, I have a 2-year-old fret Grant, for 30 thousand km I replaced 2 rails and 2 bulbs, I didn’t encounter any problems anymore, in 2012 the new machine cost 300 thousand rubles, except for routine maintenance I’m doing nothing more . The cabin is quiet, on the road, in principle, do not care.
          And those machines that are now being produced after the arrival of the French are already much better than steel, because Almera gathers a new Logan and Grant, as well as Datsun.
          But driving a 20-year-old car is not, not for me, really, anyway, the rust got out, something fell off there and so constantly, what for you need such a constructor.
          No, in the aircraft industry the most important thing is the glider, because For the formation of the aircraft body, a special slipway equipment is needed that has long been cut into metal, so modernization is the only way out, because the same Americans are constantly modernizing their b-52s and are not going to refuse them in the near future.
          1. severniy
            severniy 8 July 2014 15: 49
            -2
            mine for me in 2014 230t .., didn’t change anything, and everything is in the original, painted 1 wing and bumper, dear acoustics sales .., but everyone has their own way, good luck on the grant, hunter, priore and others, if I may say so " Russians ", we don't know how to do it, but at least there are enough masters to argue ...
            and burn it, do not contradict yourself in your own judgments .. either it’s worth riding / flying on the old one, or there is rust everywhere .., the body is galvanized at B4, it would flood, fill you with pictures from different angles, but it will be banned. ..
            1. jayich
              jayich 8 July 2014 16: 30
              +3
              Reliability of the car Audi 80 1990-1992 years of release

              Weak spots

              Consumer Guide® editors have looked at Audi's repair reports and interviewed many auto mechanics to identify the most common problems that owners of these cars face. In some cases, the manufacturer's suggested repair options are also provided. In many cases, these "weaknesses" are indicated in the manuals for the maintenance of cars of this brand, but many of the faults not included in the list of typical breakdowns have been identified by experts.

              Automatic Transmission:
              The manufacturer conducted a campaign to replace the oil in the main transmission of an automatic transmission (differential) with a synthetic one. If the machine has passed this procedure, a mark is placed on the dipstick. (1991)

              Problems with a cold start:
              The car starts up hard and goes after a long time spent in cool (7-18 degrees). The problem can be solved by replacing the flange of the coolant reservoir, which includes a thermal relay. (1990)

              Electrical problems:
              Sometimes the turn signal relay does not work, in order to fix this, it is necessary to replace it with a new one. (1990-91)

              Fuel gauge:
              The fuel meter may not work due to a breakdown of the sensor, which may stick or even produce a thud. (1990)

              Fuel pump:
              A decrease in power and a backfire are caused by a clogged strainer (which was removed in later models) in the fuel metering unit. (1990-92)

              Mirrors:
              The electric mirror switch is short, it should be replaced with an updated version. (1990-91)
              Uneven idle: The original o-rings of the fuel injectors harden and leak. New made from Viton rubber. (1991)

              Rear lights:
              Brake lights fail due to oxidation of the switching contacts; interior lighting does not turn on (or does not turn off) due to improper installation of switches in the doors, for a similar reason, the backlight in the trunk may not turn on (or not turn off). (1990-92)




              US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Data

              1990:
              The steering column lock bolts can be damaged if the driver exerts excessive force on the locked steering wheel, trying to loosen the lock; after which the steering wheel will remain locked.

              1990-91:
              The differential oil in the gearbox leaves over time due to evaporation; low oil levels cause premature wear of bearings and transmission, and, ultimately, differential failure.

              1990-92:
              Some airbag sensors do not meet wear and tear standards during the life of the vehicle. The airbag may deploy accidentally if the sensor fails.

              http://audi.web-3.ru/models/audi80/audi80rev/?act=full&id_article=834
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            3. jayich
              jayich 8 July 2014 16: 35
              -3
              Here is a sale announcement
              I sell Audi 80

              Release Year: 1992
              Mileage (km): 315000
              Body: Sedan
              Black colour
              Transmission: Manual
              Engine: 2,0 L Gasoline 115hp
              Salon: Fabric
              What's in the box: ABS, Central locking, CD-MP3 player, Alloy wheels, Driver's seat adjustment, Fog lights
              PRICE: 185000 rub.
              Contact Information: Dmitry, Tel. 89671087773, (Moscow region)


              Title original I am the third owner, I have a car 3.5 years
              Permanent four-wheel drive, rear axle lock
              The body is without rust and rot, the engine does not smoke, oil does not eat, compression 13-13.5.
              The front and rear suspension got over that year changed all silent blocks, levers, ball, oporniks, front two piston garling 280mm brakes, new rear calipers with discs, all new brake hoses, new copper rear brakes.
              On the motor, replacing valve stem seals, timing belts, spark plugs, wire harnesses, a distributor, a gasoline pump starter, a lambda probe, a radiator and partially nozzles changed everything that year.
              In the cabin I changed the seats for restyling 94g black silk front both with elevators, torpedo lining, chrome rings on the tidy and dashboard, additional appliances installed, the temperature overboard.
              Exhaust system with customs clearance in excellent condition.
              All z.ch put the original or good substitutes.
              Nothing has changed everything native laughing
              1. severniy
                severniy 8 July 2014 17: 06
                -1
                so you get a grasp of yourself ...: Equipment: ABS, Central locking, CD-MP3 player, Alloy wheels, Driver seat adjustment, Fog lights, rear calipers with discs, (and I also have windows, pillows, air conditioner., naturally a power steering , and so on, and so on ..., by the way, in the standard configuration) !!!!!!!!!!!!, yours, quarrel Taz, this even in TOP did not dream ... !!!, and that after a quarter of a century !!!, ahahahhh, and again ..: "" "" "after the arrival of the French already became much better" "" ", you yourself, are not ashamed of OUR then ???
                PS there is no desire that I would make links with jambs (notice new ones) of ours, yours, even with the French assembled cars ???, I can, I don’t care about the turnip ..
                PPS adjustment of our mirrors does not break (due to absence), the rear lights, especially the 21-08-099 family, do not oxidize and do not blink like a fir tree for the New Year !!, wa hahaha, all of the disadvantages described are rather a plus for this model .. , and finally ATP pay attention laughing
                1. jayich
                  jayich 8 July 2014 17: 15
                  0
                  Options Lada Grant

                  Equipment Standard Norma Suite Lux +
                  Security
                  Front driver airbag + + + +
                  Front passenger airbag - - + +
                  Side airbags for riders - - - +
                  Three-point seat belts for five riders - + + +
                  Seat Belt Tensioners - - + +
                  Isofix mounts + + + +
                  ABS - - + +
                  Dynamic Stabilization System - - - +
                  Fog lights - - + +
                  Head restraints for rear passengers - - + +
                  Exterior
                  Bumpers in body color - + + +
                  Mirrors and door handles in body color - - + +
                  Chrome molding on the grille - + + +
                  Black door frames - - + +
                  Caps on wheels - - - -
                  Alloy wheels - - + +
                  Comfort
                  Cabin Air Filter - + + +
                  Air conditioning - - + +
                  Heat-absorbing tinted glass - + + +
                  Electric windshield - - - +
                  Electric Power Steering - + + +
                  Tilt steering column - + + +
                  Central locking / remote - / - +/– + / + + / +
                  Power and heated exterior mirrors - - + +
                  Power windows front / rear - / - +/– + / + + / +
                  Heated front seats - - + +
                  Ashtray and cigarette lighter - + + +
                  Power tailgate lock - + + +
                  Electronics
                  Wiring for connecting speakers - + + +
                  Radio with CD player - - + +
                  Navigation system - - - +
                  Light and rain sensors - - - +
                  Trip Computer - + + +
                  Rear parking sensors - - - +
                  Practicality
                  Folding rear seat with full / separate backrest +/– +/– - / + - / +
                  Trunk upholstery and brackets for securing cargo + + + +
                  Decorative inserts in the front doors - + + +
                  Pockets in the front doors + + + +
                  Coasters in the central tunnel + + + +
                  Mirror in the passenger sun visor - - + +
                  Glasses Container - - + +
                  Additional threshold seals - - + +
                  Full Spare Wheel + + + +
                  Prices for Lada Grant 2014

                  Package Price in March 2014 *
                  Standard 289 - 000 rubles
                  Norm 324 - 400 rubles
                  Norm with automatic transmission 383 600 - 404 600 rubles
                  Suite 415 600 - 421 000 rubles
                  Suite with automatic transmission 448 800 - 450 200 rubles
                  Here is a refutation of your words that did not dream in the top. But the problem is that all the jambs are fixed under warranty and there is no need to invest additional funds. I can distribute exactly the same links about new Audi, not to mention the 20 year old junk.
                  1. severniy
                    severniy 8 July 2014 17: 20
                    -4
                    under a guarantee ?, and this is moreover here ???, talk about quality, and not about speed and price of repair .., sorry ..
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      3. severniy
        severniy 8 July 2014 14: 55
        -1
        "" "Explain to me if there is a good reliable glider that has not worked out its resource, it is possible to install modern radio electronics, replace engines," ""

        sorry for the sarcasm, nooo, it remains to change the body ... and voila !!!!, (the body, by the way, is the cheapest of all of the above ... wink
        1. jayich
          jayich 8 July 2014 16: 52
          +1
          Looks no worse ...
          1. severniy
            severniy 8 July 2014 17: 17
            -1
            I bet, but again to each his own .., a stupid question, and yours will go 240 km / h ?, mine gave this luck .., and rust kruuugom ... crying
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            2. jayich
              jayich 8 July 2014 17: 34
              -1
              No, since the rules of the road are the maximum speed of 130 km / h, and on most roads 90 km / h, the maximum speed declared by the manufacturer is 167 km / h.
              This is quite enough in our country there are no roads on which it is allowed to accelerate to 240 km / h. Sorry to drive at that speed reeks of recklessness on public roads, only on special racing tracks can it be relatively safe. Therefore, our machines do not need to master such speeds.
              Even the simple question of saving the family budget at 100 km / h, my car consumes 5,8 l / 100 km, at 160 km / h the consumption will be about 13,5 l / 100 km, the difference is quite noticeable.
              Sorry, but our discussion began to slide into a simple gimmick, therefore it is better to stop it ...
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          2. severniy
            severniy 8 July 2014 17: 18
            -1
            our 260 can’t overpower ..
          3. muginov2015
            muginov2015 8 July 2014 17: 29
            -2
            Well, a freak!
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        3. Aljavad
          Aljavad 9 July 2014 03: 25
          0
          "" "Explain to me if there is a good reliable glider that has not worked out its resource, it is possible to install modern radio electronics, replace engines," ""

          sorry for the sarcasm, nooo, it remains to change the body ... and voila !!!!, (the body, by the way, is the cheapest of all of the above ...

          I don’t understand the current: why doesn’t anyone put the old (expensive) engines on the new (cheap) gliders? Or are you all about cars? Then you, my friend, flooder!
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  11. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 8 July 2014 13: 02
    +1
    "Work has begun on the development of a light transport aircraft Il-112 by order of the RF Ministry of Defense" - where is it from? IL-112 has been involved in VASO for a long time, it seems that he was almost ready in physics.
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 9 July 2014 03: 27
      0
      IL-112 has long been engaged in VASO,

      IL-112 is designed from the 90s. As a military version of the IL-114, which seems to have been mass-produced in Tashkent for a long time.
      Apparently, the military did not suit. So "on the pillar-bast ..."
  12. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 8 July 2014 13: 04
    +1
    Good news, which means that America’s submarines will simply not walk along our shores. Viva our growing defense industry !!!
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 8 July 2014 14: 31
      +4
      Sorry, I hit you with a minus. You are engaged in cap-making. This is not the time for Viva to scream. In fact, now there is only the possibility of upgrading old machines, there are no new ones, and given the plan for upgrading 2020 machines by 28, there will soon be no new ones. Hope for TU 204-214, we will wait.
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  13. other
    other 8 July 2014 13: 14
    +2
    clear sky !!
  14. engineer74
    engineer74 8 July 2014 13: 18
    +6
    I don’t understand what kind of "cast iron" he has? 42 years old bird, at least. what
    Eh ... Able to do in the USSR! good
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 9 July 2014 03: 30
      +1
      Have you heard of Turbo Dakota? And to this day they fly.
  15. pahom54
    pahom54 8 July 2014 13: 22
    +1
    That's just a joy - due to the fact that we now have less nuclear submarines than the Americans, so at least we will modernize our anti-submarine aircraft ... But who will it direct? This means that new ships will be urgently built ... Everything is interconnected.
    And the plane - clear skies and the lack of a heap under water, and let them be more!
  16. Vtel
    Vtel 8 July 2014 13: 39
    +2
    Modification of IL-38N
    Weight, kg
    empty 33700 aircraft
    maximum take-off 63500
    Internal fuel, l 30000
    Engine type 4 TVD Progress AI-20M
    Power, e.s. 4250
    The maximum speed, km / h 650
    Cruising speed, km / h 456
    Ferry range, km 9500
    Practical range, km 7100
    Combat range, km 2500
    Practical ceiling, m 10000
    Crew 10
    Armament: Combat load - 5000 kg in the weapons compartment
    UR X-35, anti-submarine 450-mm torpedoes AT-1, AT-2, APR-3-E, depth charges GB, light bombs OAB, markers
  17. gregor6549
    gregor6549 8 July 2014 14: 02
    +2
    Handsome, then he is handsome and at one time proved to be much more effective in terms of finding and destroying submarines than anti-submarine helicopters, but the "Gibus" with sensors above the cabin does not add beauty to it. Here is the excess braking and fuel consumption. After all, it was possible to hide this superstructure at least in a fairing or to give it a streamlined shape.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 8 July 2014 14: 41
      +7
      In secret ... This is anti-gravity, the whole plane hangs on it. wink
      1. gregor6549
        gregor6549 8 July 2014 16: 25
        +2
        Thanks for clarifying. And then I started to think what kind of pepelats invented. But seriously, we lag behind the probable adversary in this matter and seriously. And the main lag is that this aircraft in the open window (with the exception of the coastal zone) will have no one to cover the enemy from fighter aircraft attacks. And he will have to fly there, because the enemy is not so dumb as to swim to the shore itself. And not only to fly, but also having discovered a boat, graze it, And sometimes it takes hours to graze. Those. again and again. Without a strong balance of forces and means, including aircraft carriers, the Navy is difficult to claim supremacy in the ocean and in the air. And without such domination, controlling a waterfowl adversary is more than a difficult task, if at all feasible.
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 9 July 2014 03: 32
        +1
        This is anti-gravity, the whole plane is hanging on it.

        gravitsapa! winked
  18. MSA
    MSA 8 July 2014 14: 15
    -1
    An excellent complement to our troops, there would be more such equipment
  19. Leshka
    Leshka 8 July 2014 14: 20
    +1
    good flight to him good
  20. staryivoin
    staryivoin 8 July 2014 14: 25
    0
    We are pleased with the revitalization of our Russian defense industry. Let him quickly come to his senses and please the Army, Aviation and Navy with reliable equipment.
  21. GHOST29RUS
    GHOST29RUS 8 July 2014 14: 28
    +1
    Good luck with this plane soldier
  22. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 July 2014 15: 09
    0
    Oh, what a ... charm? O_o Somehow ugly done. I hope that only for the period of testing the technology. And yes, the update in this area is happy.
  23. gregor6549
    gregor6549 8 July 2014 16: 44
    0
    What is working out? We are talking about a production aircraft and not about an experienced one. This is alarming.
  24. sivuch
    sivuch 8 July 2014 17: 18
    +1
    The general director of OJSC "AK Ilyushin" Yu. Mikhailovich said that the IL-38P was "an absolutely secret aircraft." But if the platform was patched up and the bearing units were replaced, then the "stuffing" was radically changed. They threw out "Berkut" (1960s) and installed PPS "Novella P-38". It's the whole point!
    Then what is he all secret, if the same Novella was introduced to the Indians? I hope there really are improvements.
    But still, a new platform is needed yesterday.
  25. severniy
    severniy 8 July 2014 17: 50
    0
    Quote: Black and White
    It is interesting that Honduras minus both articles and comments, quiet guy .... la!

    article minus from me. and YOU pick up the words ..
  26. Nayhas
    Nayhas 8 July 2014 18: 03
    0
    To be honest, I see no reason to rejoice. Supposedly modern equipment was installed on the ancient base. The Indians, looking at this creativity, desperately needing an anti-submarine aircraft, reluctantly reached into their pockets and bought ... eight P-8I "Neptune" from the Americans. After that, the developers of the IL-38SD began to push it to the "domestic consumer" who had been nodding for a long time nodding at bloopers, flaws and, to put it mildly, outdated characteristics (probably no one remembered the RSL that got stuck in the middle of the 20th century). But they shoved a pancake, because the domestic military-industrial complex is not capable of producing anything better, and the situation with PLO aviation is simply awful. It is practically nonexistent. Ours can only sigh and look with envy at the Indians who have already received four Neptunes out of eight in a year and a half, while they have to wait another five years for the remaining four ... And this is all PLO aviation!
    Pride of the Indian Navy

  27. scorpiosys
    scorpiosys 8 July 2014 23: 16
    +1
    On the loudspeaker cymbal on the upper body, a pipelac "Maxim Gorky" - is reminiscent.
    As they say in Germany: In the absence of a better one, one has to use a surrogate.
  28. KIRON
    KIRON 9 July 2014 07: 37
    +1
    Eh! Class! Guys for fun, on occasion!