On the political underplay of harassment Strelkova

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On the political underplay of harassment Strelkova


As is quite obvious, the campaign launched yesterday on the persecution of Strelkov did not arise from scratch and has a purely political genesis. After leaving Slavyansk, where, as many believed, he would die with his brigade, he became the so-called "wild card", which broke a number of previously existing layouts.

In fact, the political background of leaving Slavyansk was no less significant than the military one. If the military need has previously been described in detail, then it is time to point out the political background of the Strelkov maneuver.

After the turn of the foreign policy of the Russian Federation in Ukraine in April 2014, almost all the threads of the decisions on the Donbas began to isolate themselves on Surkov, and even Volodin was de facto removed from curating the issue. After it became obvious that the introduction of troops was either postponed or completely removed from the agenda, the question arose on what to do with what is happening in the Donbas. Since, for internal political reasons, the DNR and LNR were fraught with internal shocks (the risk of which is much more than some people think), they chose an intermediate option when, against the background of the retreat of official diplomacy, Moscow continued the tacit support of the rebel republics (which then propagandists gave out for CPR ).

At the same time, a course was taken for the formation of Novorossia, which according to the plans was to be headed by Tsarev, who, while in Moscow, began to receive funding (along with a number of other people who were supposed to replace him in case of failure) and to whom the so-called people's the governors of Novorossiya in the number of 7-9 people, who are mostly virtual figures. The first attempt to implant Tsarev in the Donbass ended in failure: Tsarev proclaimed Novorossia, and a number of figures like Bolotov and Beard said that Tsarev could declare what he wanted there, but other people make decisions, followed by picking of defendants accusing local leaders in regionalism. From the second attempt, Tsarev was still seated in the Donbass, as Moscow closed on him part of the funding channels and humanitarian aid, and the local leaders were forced to subdue their pride.

When the development of the situation in the Donbass with the filing of the United States, providing cover for the junta, began to develop in an unfavorable direction, a course was taken to create on the territory of the DPR and the LPR a kind of transnistria based on 2 republics with a population of 7 million people (the idea of ​​New Russia from several regions - for some time only a propaganda phantom).

They tried to coordinate the creation of this project with the United States and Kiev, but they were denied, so they embarked on agreements with Akhmetov and his people who were offered to support the uprising under the guarantees of power and property and take a certain position in the structures of the new state. All these dances around the nationalization of the property of Akhmetov, when Pushilin at first threatened to take everything away, and then Boroday spoke and said that we are not Communists and will not take anything away, and then we will select new threats, even if not all, above all, external echoes of the ongoing auction with Akhmetov and his people. The surrender of Mariupol, to which Akhmetov had a hand, by blocking the intelligible work of preparing the defense of the city, is, so to speak, one of the parts of the “dialogue”. History with Khodakovsky, who already when he was the commander of the Vostok, continued to take money from Akhmetov and substituted his people, is also part of these backstage sales when Amkhetov essentially eliminated uncontrollable militias so that they did not begin to build the DPR in all seriousness.

The problem of the DPR, in fact, is that Akhmetov still has a great influence on the leadership of the DPR and the Donetsk elites. Moscow takes this moment into account and tries to negotiate with it (represented by Surkov and a number of responsible persons). But the junta and the USA, of course, are aware of these movements, and Akhmetov, whose financial capital is in the West, they hold for one place as tightly as possible. Therefore, these trades do not bring closer, but postpone the release of the DPR and the LPR, although the curators of the Ukrainian question seriously believe that their plan with Akhmetov will burn out.

It is these trades with Akhmetov, who has contacts with Moscow and Kiev, led to a very strange situation, when Donetsk, being in a state of war, was not actually subjected to shelling by artillery and air strikes (unlike Lugansk), which hints at the existence of agreements with the junta on the preservation of Donetsk away from the actual hostilities that went under the Slavic and go to the territory of the LC. Contacts, of course, are made through representatives of Akhmetov, who enter both the offices of Kiev and the offices of the top DNR.

At the same time, work on the creation of a unified military command is being sabotaged in Donetsk for three months, the fact that the authorities subordinate to Kiev is ignored, state-building is drained into the toilet, and militia units are scattered, poorly organized and not capable of solving offensive tasks - the fact that May-June groups were not organized to strike the outer ring of the Slavyansk encirclement, which best of all indicates the unwillingness of a number of individuals to wage war for real.

Looting, gangsterism, murder, business protection flourished in the city, killed Assistant Pushilin, tried to kill Gubarev, militiamen stomped under the airfield for more than a month, while no serious forces were put forward to seize the tank depot in Artyomovsk, although nothing prevented the existing Tanks and BMP from Donetsk to Artyomovsk, add to them 2-3 companies of the militia and finally take the coveted base. This moment was also sabotaged from Donetsk.

By the end of the truce in Donetsk, the situation was close to the discharge of the DPR, the city actually shied away from the war, and local politicians tried to bargain with Moscow and Kiev, where the DPR itself was essentially a bargaining chip, as did the residents of the DPR who became hostages of this bargain .

Strelkov in Slavyansk was meant to die beautifully, away from this political shit.

But in July, when it became clear that the “truce” was used to concentrate the junta’s forces in the Donbass, a defeat party began to grow in Donetsk, which, without interrupting negotiations with representatives of the Kremlin, actually began to prepare the city for surrender through the Akhmetovs. They did not need a war, and Strelkov didn’t need it any more - so while the junta was cutting down the Slavyansk supply line, until he was hanging on one Nikolayevka, no one had even thought of breaking through a steady corridor to him. The troops from the Russian Federation were not expected (and for the sake of them, in many respects, they kept Slavyansk as an important communications node), a deblocking blow was not expected either. By the evening of July 2, Strelkov realized this, although, judging by his speeches, the realization that a bull bull was being prepared for slaughter had appeared a bit earlier. Plus, information was received that treason was ripening in Donetsk.

When there was a rapid breakthrough of Strelkov to Donetsk, it caused a slight shock at first, and then panic: Strelkov gathered the garrisons of the cities left and came to Donetsk to turn it into a fortified area and lead an active defense based on Donetsk and Gorlovka. That is, he demolished all plans for the peaceful surrender of Donetsk junta. From here and the aggravated cries of Akhmetov, that "we should not bomb Donetsk," the promises of the junta "we will not bomb Donetsk," and the hysteria on the Internet: "The shooters bring war to Donetsk." Of course, he is carrying the war to Donetsk, because there was a steady desire to surrender Donetsk to the junta without a war and bury the DPR. With this fact, Strelkov confused all the cards to the defeatists, and also destroyed Surkov's combinations of negotiations with Akhmetov, in which Strelkov simply had no place. There was no place for two reasons.

1. Strelkov represents the conventional "party of war", which does not want peace with the junta and demands war to the bitter end with the raising of the victory flag over Kiev. There is simply no place for him in behind-the-scenes negotiations with the junta and Akhmetov - the battles in the Donetsk agglomeration will obviously lead not only to a prolonged confrontation, but also to numerous destructions that will affect Akhmetov’s numerous property. He obviously counted on this when he flirted with the DPR, introducing his people there.

2. The shooters, in virtue of their right-wing arch convictions, hobnob with right-wing, nationalists and even semi-fascists like Prosvirnin, accepting help from all who give it, without much intelligibility on the principle - carry everything, everything will accept. Surkov and Co. does not need a right-wing Novorossia with a nationalistic flavor, which some leaders are trying to impart to the image of Strelkov, who openly supports Putin and does not nominate himself with any projects of the state, although he has already been credited with the intention to seize Rostov and march towards Moscow, which is complete and obvious nonsense.

People like Surkov are much closer to people like Akhmetov, Medvedchuk, Tsarev, to whom local authorities will be delegated in the event of the creation of the “Donetsk Transnistria”. Leaders from people like Brain or Gubarev are unlikely to be allowed to make key decisions - such people rather frighten those people who are used to “solve” everything in a narrow circle of “their own”.

At the same time, the authorities themselves begin to intimidate with “patriotic Maidan”, which is precisely the result of Surkov’s line on creating a “new Transnistria” through negotiations with Akhmetov. The people who were yesterday in the pro-Putin consolidated majority, not understanding and not accepting the changed political line, begin to ask questions first, and then look for the guilty, and sooner or later stick in the Kremlin. That is, we must understand that it is this policy that destroys the pro-Putin majority and creates the threat of a “patriotic Maidan”, which is only a potential consequence of the “Donetsk combinations” of Surkov. And here, by the way, there is nothing new - it is worth recalling how Surkov’s similar “clever” combinations in domestic policy have already led to widespread unrest in Moscow after the 4 elections in December 2011 of the year, after which he was thrown out of the post of curator of domestic policy, after which he came Volodin with his ONF and in less than a year stopped Surkov's joint, bringing the percentage of supporters of Putin from official 36% in January 2012 to 86% in April 2014.

Now, apparently, history repeats itself - Surkov begins to flirt and substitutes not only the NPT, but Putin himself, splitting that same “post-Crimean” pro-Putin majority, throwing some patriots into opposition and constructing the paper tiger of “patriotic Maidan” from yesterday’s Putin fans, on occasion, the Americans will take advantage if they seriously take up the question of organizing a real Maidan. That is, in fact, for the cries about the “threat of patriotic Maidan”, the cheers-guards themselves prepare the ground for him, splitting the post-Crimean pro-Putin majority. This, of course, is quite obvious to some circles in Moscow, so Strelkova, of course, was warned about the situation in Donetsk. You should not represent him as such Don Quixote. Therefore, when Strelkov’s suspicions were supplemented with information about what is happening in Donetsk, a rapid breakthrough was organized in Donetsk in order to crush the party of defeatists in Donetsk fundamentally, which threatened the very existence of the DNR with subsequent discharge of the whole Donbass and, as a potential consequence, a revolution in the Russian Federation in the style of “Russian revolt lite ".

Coming out of the entourage under Slavyansk, Strelkov has already led to the fact that some of the potential defendants of the DPR discharge and negotiations with Akhmetov began to scatter: from Donetsk in an unknown direction (according to rumors, to Mariupol) left the former commander of "Vostok" Khodakovsky, who is on Akhmetov's salary (but nevertheless quietly rolling to Moscow), the Ukrainian authorities, which quietly existed in Donetsk before Strelkov’s arrival, also began a rapid drape, sweeps of still untapped units started in the city, and today mayor of Donetsk, Lukya Marchenko suddenly left the city in Kiev "for consultations". That is, Strelkov (with the probable supply of certain circles in Moscow) simply destroys the base for collusion with the junta and Akhmetov, since it will be unrealistic to surrender the city together with a bunch of militiamen fighting the junta, and Strelkov has one of the largest formations of armed men and significant authority among the residents of the DPR and the militias. This authority must be urgently destroyed, as it begins to pose a threat to the policy being pursued.

Therefore, the Strelkov-traitor propaganda campaign was launched, when various hypocrites try to throw mud at Strelkov, trying to save Surkov’s crumbling combination with Akhmetov and Co. In this regard, of course, you should not dwell on Kurginyans and Bagirov, these are just talking heads that convey to the masses a definite message related to the chagrin that Strelkov survived and does not allow for a quiet "combination" in Donetsk in the style " the forester came and broke all. "

The hysterical nature of the campaign, which began with the filing of Kurginyan (who was the skirmisher, but not the organizer) showed well that she was preparing on her knee and in a hurry, so it turned out so flimsy, and Kurginyan finally went into circulation - too primitive were the accusations the one who 3 month kept Slavyansk against superior forces and provided the necessary time to create a state that the efforts of those who now scatter from Donetsk and those who are now fidgeting in a chair in the light of the arrival of the Stre kov, it has not been created. In this regard, Kurginyan’s lies about the fact that “everything is okay in Donetsk” is also revealing, given that Donetsk was on the verge of betrayal and draining.

If Strelkov's reputation cannot be destroyed, then, of course, they will try to kill him, as they already tried to kill Bolotov and today they tried to kill Brain, who represent the "war party". These people interfere with collusion and plum, so they must be either tarnished or destroyed. In this regard, those characters who are now trying to throw mud at Strelkov, in fact, play into the hands of the junta and the party of the defeatists who are preparing to surrender Donetsk and backstage collusion with Akhmetov. The question of what is more there — material interest or ideological views — is purely rhetorical. The network fools who picked up this wave are only expendable materials of big politics, which is carried out behind the backs of those militiamen who every day heroically fight the superior forces of the junta.

Of course, you shouldn’t idealize Strelkov, a sensible statesman is unlikely to turn out of him, and his ideological views are, frankly, specific, but the fact is that with his actions under Slavyansk and the efforts of Russian propaganda he turned from an unknown reconstructor into a serious political figure behind which there are many people with weapons... They are forced to reckon with him, they are afraid of him and, of course, they are trying to destroy him - both the Ukrainian fascists and the Russian defeatists.

Here we must understand that Strelkov is one of those on whom the real, and not virtual, DNR is now based. A strike on people like Strelkov, Gubarev, or Brain is primarily a strike on a real DNR, where Akhmetov, Khodakovsky or Medvedchuk have no place. Therefore, this situation around Strelkov is very revealing in terms of identifying the hidden enemies of the real independence of the DPR. So write down the names and nicknames of these characters who, voluntarily or unknowingly, play the part of the grave-diggers of the DPR. Enemy need to know in person.
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  1. +48
    8 July 2014 07: 02

    Here it must be understood that Strelkov is one of those on whom the real, not virtual, DNR is now based. A blow to people like Strelkov, Gubarev or Mozgovoy is primarily a blow to a real DPR, where there is no place for Akhmetov, Khodakovsky or Medvedchuk. Therefore, this situation around Strelkov is very indicative in terms of revealing hidden enemies of the real independence of the DPR.

    Hold on Igor Ivanovich.
    1. +45
      8 July 2014 07: 06
      I will say in the top: people have a short memory, because, not remembering what happened a year ago, they easily fall for "new trends" in the media!
      What did everyone want when the junta appeared (Yats., Tur.,) - they wanted FEDERALIZATION in the Southeast! What did Russia want? Crimea? She got it!
      On federalization, too, the issue has actually been resolved!
      And the hysterical Kurginyan has not a "conscience", but an IMPRESSION to assert that Strelkov merged Slavyansk!
      And Putin’s eggs have nothing to do with it !!!
      А Shooting genius, talent and Hero!
      1. BYV
        +26
        8 July 2014 07: 17
        All this mouse fuss is especially disgusting against the background of the mass death of civilians and the heroism shown by militias. God is with you, you cannot be defeated.
      2. +29
        8 July 2014 07: 17
        "A blow to people like Strelkov, Gubarev or Mozgovoy is, first of all, a blow to the real DNR, where there is no place for Akhmetov, Khodakovsky or Medvedchuk."

        This is a blow to Russia!
        The fact that Surkov is a "benefactor" of the Russian state and the oligarchy represented by the Akhmetovs, Abramovichs, Avens, Fridmanov, Deripasoks, Vekselbergs and K is a dead-end branch of civilization not known only to De Bill, but here again the question of the role of the Supreme Guarantor?
        1. Andersen68
          +6
          8 July 2014 07: 25
          The supreme guarantor has his hands tied to such an environment. The scales are also visible, according to the media, one thing. In the internet, another.
          1. +19
            8 July 2014 07: 38
            Quote: Andersen68
            The supreme guarantor has his hands tied to such an environment.

            Then this is no guarantee
          2. +12
            8 July 2014 08: 10
            Quote: Andersen68
            The supreme guarantor has his hands tied to such an environment. The scales are also visible, according to the media, one thing. In the internet, another.

            For a long time, the Supreme would have conducted purges in his entourage. The USSR would not have won the Great Patriotic War if Stalin had not been purged.
            Or maybe the Supreme himself does not want to?
            "He who sows the wind will reap the storm."
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            2. +11
              8 July 2014 10: 15
              Ustas
              For a long time, the Supreme would have conducted purges in his entourage. The USSR would not have won the Great Patriotic War if Stalin had not been purged.
              Or maybe the Supreme himself does not want to?


              Now other methods. And between Stalin and Putin - a big difference. Stalin was a warrior. Putin, however, came to power on the shoulders of merchants and is completely dependent on them. And he himself is more likely a merchant than a warrior. Such a time ...
              1. Alex_Popovson
                +2
                8 July 2014 11: 47
                To begin with, it is worth saying that Stalin was not a warrior, but was a manager. And then, he was supposed to become a cunning figure.
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                2. +2
                  8 July 2014 14: 33
                  Alex_Popovson
                  To begin with, it is worth saying that Stalin was not a warrior, but was a manager. And then, he was supposed to become a cunning figure.


                  This refers to a particular caste. Brahmins are spiritual leaders, Kshatriyas are warriors, Vaisyas are merchants, money-lenders (merchants, in general), and all the rest (sudras)
                  Stalin was an ascetic. Putin bathes in luxury. Merchants rule the world ...
          3. +8
            8 July 2014 11: 01
            Quote: Andersen68
            The supreme guarantor has his hands tied to such an environment. The scales are also visible, according to the media, one thing. In the internet, another.

            He himself created such an environment around him.
          4. Victoria 1980
            +15
            8 July 2014 12: 04
            No need to justify the guarantor!
            The guarantor knows what Surkov is, and, nevertheless, put him in charge of New Russia. And then, the guarantor PERSONALLY recommended Medvedchuk in the negotiations between Kiev and Novorossia. Therefore, it is absolutely clear on whose side the Guarantor is.
            He also does not need either Novorossia or the hemorrhoids associated with it, but he is only interested in how now to not lose face after his pompous words about protection.
            1. Milanalana
              +1
              8 July 2014 16: 56
              obviously, there are no people other than Surkov and Medvedchuk. Yes, the face has already been lost, the whole East of Ukraine is waiting for concrete actions from the guarantor, but "understands" him, it is impossible to drag Russia into the third world war
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            3. +1
              9 July 2014 00: 50
              Victoria 1980
              No need to justify the guarantor!
              The guarantor knows what Surkov is, and, nevertheless, put him in charge of New Russia. And then, the guarantor PERSONALLY recommended Medvedchuk in the negotiations between Kiev and Novorossia. Therefore, it is absolutely clear on whose side the Guarantor is.
              He also does not need either Novorossia or the hemorrhoids associated with it, but he is only interested in how now to not lose face after his pompous words about protection.


              Yeah ... the personnel preferences of the GDP are really peculiar. One stool
        2. +11
          8 July 2014 07: 38
          Quote: nils
          but here again the question of the role of the Supreme Guarantor?

          And who took Surkov back to the service?
          1. +6
            8 July 2014 07: 45
            Hmm, Groundhog Pts has a powerful lobby, Alfa Group and all the Jewishness of Russia.
            And Rossneft depends on it, including this is the country's main income.
            Of the pain less than that controlled by Putin, the Army and Gazprom. (If you noticed, during the Maidan in Ukraine, Putin replaced many governors)

            The shooter wrote that now Putin, including with the help of Novorossiya, is trying to make a revolution from above. And he asked not to interfere with him with cries of "leaked everything" and vice versa.
            1. +1
              8 July 2014 07: 59
              Quote: Deff
              The shooter wrote that now Putin, including with the help of New Russia, is trying to make a revolution from above.

              As I wrote, if you make this same revolution from above, similarly to the February 1917, then its fate will be the same
            2. +4
              8 July 2014 08: 15
              Quote: Deff
              Hmm, Groundhog Pts has a powerful lobby, Alfa Group and all the Jewishness of Russia.

              There are traditions in Russia, laying their lobby winked
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            4. -1
              8 July 2014 11: 31
              Deff
              The shooter wrote that now Putin, including with the help of Novorossiya, is trying to make a revolution from above. And he asked not to interfere with him with cries of "leaked everything" and vice versa.


              interesting ... Where did you write?
        3. +17
          8 July 2014 08: 26
          Article is super !!!
          I disagree with only one thing. The author says that Strelkov will not work out a good statesman. The author does not take into account the role of the Personality in History, for example, Pinochet, Franco, Mussolini. I think Strelkova with his abilities can be completely controlled by the state administration.
          1. -1
            8 July 2014 10: 07
            Pinochet-Franco-Mussolini you have a very specific selection of "personalities in history" only you did not complete the logical chain of personalities as the main character of such personalities, Hitler.
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          3. Milanalana
            +1
            8 July 2014 17: 01
            but it seems to me that he is good in battle, but about politics, he even said in some interview that it was not his. There is such a profession to defend the Motherland. In the book "House", I forgot the author, the hero said: "I like to fight, do not confuse, I like war, namely, I like to fight" Shooters are the same.
          4. 0
            8 July 2014 17: 22
            Shooters a priori not a statesman. He is from the cohort of revolutionaries of romantics, engaging in a revolution for the sake of revolution. And what will happen after the revolution, they are not interested. Something similar already happened in Latin America by the name of Che Guevara.
        4. oplot112
          +1
          8 July 2014 11: 20
          If Surkov acts like that, then they allow him that, then there is permission or oversight of the supreme ....
        5. oplot112
          +3
          8 July 2014 11: 20
          If Surkov acts like that, then they allow him that, then there is permission or oversight of the supreme ....
        6. +1
          8 July 2014 21: 53
          Hehe, here is a question that everyone has long known the answer to. The role of the "great guarantor" is to steer where those who actually put him on the "high stool" will show him. Who shows where to steer, it is clear after rereading the names in the list of the "dead-end branch", which is typical of Russian surnames that do not contain
        7. Yuri Bogdanov
          0
          10 July 2014 08: 53
          I sympathize with Strelkova, the real Officer, but the handed over SVRovsky Sov. Without Russia will surrender him ........... Surprised, half of the country, either themselves or the other, passed through the zones, and the thief from the rat is different. - citizen, not manifest. collectible property and redistribution of it in the personal interest. Rat-citizen, yavl. co-owned or disposed of a collective owner, redistributing him into a personal interest. Dog of a female genius (traitor) - a citizen of an active collection Intelligent production in production secrecy, sec., for service users and use it in personal inter, to the detriment of the public. A citizen scout who did not reveal a collective intellectual product, in the mode of secret, secret service for the use of a foreign country and redistributing a part of this product to the interest of his own state. Therefore, a thief is so different from a rat as a scout from a traitor. A thief and a scout (from the point of view of the opposite side) are criminal professions, a rat and a traitor (a female dog) are the highest form of moral decay of a person. Therefore, in the USSR, in China and friend countries of thieves and scouts were planted, and the rats and traitors (dogs of the female genus) were driven into the head by olives. One can treat a thief with respect, but as an adversary, he never rats (a corruption), because a thief commits less immorality. an offense than rats (corruption). There is a proverb - a thief to the cop is not a comrade, and there is a continuation of the proverb - but a rat (corruption), a female feminine dog (corruption), provocate. ) the budget is the same as stealing (ratting) from the (common fund) budget, so citizens are committed on such crimes, US citizens and other developed countries are immediate. in law enforcement agencies and this is not considered to be squealing. You can amnesty a thief who damages 1 citizen, and amnesty (a rat or a dog of a female genus) that damages thousands of citizens never, and do not let this nonsense increase income .fix. (dogs. female. genus, rats and provocate.). There is a saying that if a citizen became moral. how salaries are raised and history is developed. The Russian Federation confirms this axiom. Moscow (city-rat) and the political and leadership of the Russian Federation (female dogs) - a parasite sitting on
      3. +13
        8 July 2014 07: 22
        A week ago, Taganka was driving along the road to the Pokrovsky monastery, and I was amazed by the CREEPY theatrical playbill-there among "Pavel Kashin, Roman Kartsev" WAS "Schenderovich"!
        So far, such MORAL and ENEMIES will appear before the public, and not undergo FULLY OBSTRUCTIONS EVERYWHERE, and bastard anti-patriotic things will appear in the information field of our society!
        I’ll write a letter to Mizulina. stop ...
      4. +24
        8 July 2014 07: 27
        Quote: mirag2
        And the hysterical Kurginyan has not a "conscience", but an IMPRESSION to assert that Strelkov merged Slavyansk!

        According to Laif News today they showed that Kurginyan came to Donetsk and was promoting there. He asks Gubarev why Strelkov is not here. Gubarev, although a temporary worker, answered well. Hay does not go to the cow wassat
        And that this old fart did not send the trenches to dig.
        1. +4
          8 July 2014 13: 01
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And the hysterical Kurginyan has not a "conscience", but an IMPRESSION to assert that Strelkov merged Slavyansk!

          Kurginyan with his claims would not hurt himself to get into the trench and meet the Natsik tank with a bunch of grenades.
          Only after that would I begin to listen to him with increased attention.
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        3. Milanalana
          0
          8 July 2014 17: 03
          laughing i like your comment
      5. +16
        8 July 2014 08: 38
        Quote: mirag2
        And the hysterical Kurginyan has not a "conscience", but an IMPRESSION to assert that Strelkov merged Slavyansk!


        Kurginyan is the person who speaks a lot, incomprehensibly and without proving. At its core, a corrupt talker who received an order to discredit one of the most respected leaders of Novorossia, Strelkov is an honest and decent person, a true officer in the highest sense of the word and not Kurginyan. An intriguing master and an active slave in front of those in power, to teach him! Do not fight columns in red tunics in the square to build
        1. +2
          8 July 2014 14: 09
          Quote: Ascetic
          Strelkov - an honest and decent man, a real officer in the highest sense of the word

          The country knows its heroes!
          and who are Kurginyan and Surkov, sorry I do not know.
          1. Milanalana
            +1
            8 July 2014 17: 07
            Kurginyan-Aquarius, pouring water, the idea is difficult to catch. Marmots young and early. And Strelkov showed himself as an intelligent and professional person, he impresses as soon as he starts talking. why the country is scattered with such human material (sorry for comparison), I would say elite.
      6. +9
        8 July 2014 09: 21
        Strelkov, becoming a political figure, would be very useful to Putin as a "hawk", there are too many "doves of peace" in our government in recent years.
        1. +8
          8 July 2014 09: 24
          Quote: tomket
          there are too many "doves of peace" in our government in recent years.


          Rather, not pigeons, but "blue" (the same Surkov has obvious signs) for a simple pianists Sidorovs negative
          1. 0
            8 July 2014 09: 57
            Quote: Ascetic
            Quote: tomket
            there are too many "doves of peace" in our government in recent years.


            Rather, not pigeons, but "blue" (the same Surkov has obvious signs) for a simple pianists Sidorovs negative

            It turns out that the most that neither is the fighter for "spiritual braces" GDP keeps in advisers such non-traditionalists? and if you remember his rejection of family life in connection with the divorce, what is the result?
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        2. +5
          8 July 2014 11: 21
          Quote: tomket
          Strelkov, becoming a political figure, would be very useful to Putin

          No, he would have become dangerous for him, because Strelkov would have pulled popular sympathies, in general, there would have been a disaster with Strelkov, a car or again a helicopter would hit the wires of the power transmission line
      7. +20
        8 July 2014 09: 47
        In Russia, symbolism has always been of great importance. V.V. After the annexation of Crimea, Putin started the flywheel of patriotism to such turns, which apparently he himself did not expect ... And the people believed in him for the first time in 23 years, truly believed! It is clear that the situation in Novorossia is much more complicated than in Crimea, but the flywheel of patriotism is working and people are watching, but what next? .. And then a bunch-bunch-bunch of Svidomo Banderlog are certainly bad, but let's talk to them ... What to talk about? And with whom? With the murderers of Odessa, Mariupol, Slavyansk, Khreshchatyk, Happiness? With outright liars, homosexuals, fascists, American employees? .. For myself, I have already specifically identified two types of potential opponents (Novorossiya / Russia). The 1st is such personalities as: Makarevich, Nemtsov, Arbenina and Co. ... -People who are suffering " Political meteorisms "but the second type very clearly manifested itself when" Leonid "Strelkov and his" 2 Strelkovtsy "did not become dead heroes in Slavyansk, but came to Donetsk ... Suddenly Kurginyan turned 300 degrees in his statements, I think other "Hurray patriots" will catch up (so we observe and remember who will be the 180th column) ... After reading the article, the march of "Demon" (tired of betrayal) to Donetsk and the Vostok massacre at Donetsk airport became clear. Enemies do not have to be afraid to open and expel / destroy, even during a war. It is much more scary if such "Friends" will cover your back during the battle (you won't wish that to the enemy either). And as for the fact that "Strelok" disappointed the 6th column by the fact that it survived, I can say that SHOTS IS NOT JUST A HISTORIAN, HE IS A MILITARY HISTORIAN, and believe me about the Versailles negotiations, he has a very good idea. At the same time, what happened in the last two days after his arrival in Donetsk? The Air Force (Su 6 "Grach") and the Marine Corps (25 volunteers landing on the Sea of ​​Azov) appeared at Novorossiya yesterday. The actions of the Novorossiya army in relation to the Junta groupings at the airports of Donetsk / Lugansk intensified. ALL drug dealers were shot in Donetsk. And this is only for TWO DAYS ... Summing up I want to say, Igor Ivanovich Russia is with you! And no "shifters" will make us spit and forget about you and New Russia. We are not used to spitting and forgetting the deeds of our fathers and grandfathers, we are not used to betraying our blood brothers.
        1. +3
          8 July 2014 10: 35
          In general, yes. Now Strelkov has a chance to break into Bonaparte (not irony, but in a good and serious sense of the word) - he also kicked out talkers and demagogues with a kick in the ass.
          Here they write whether Strelkov has the opportunity to become a decent statesman. Did the artillery lieutenant have such opportunities? No more than our modern hero. Napoleon knew how to select personnel and was not afraid to take responsibility for decisions on himself, without looking back at "... and what will Princess Marya Alekseevna say?"
          Although, I think, Igor Ivanovich, too, is not in itself - someone's creature.
          To know whose ...
        2. +4
          8 July 2014 11: 14
          About the fact that in Donetsk they sabotage Novorossia and merge Strelkov, I spoke for a long time. There was a lot of evidence that while Lugansk was being strengthened and cleaned up, nothing was being done in Donetsk. The DNI has a lot of equipment and weapons, but no one helped Strelkov. Ours along the way realized that everything was rotten in Donetsk and began to actively help only Lugansk, and after it became clear that Donetsk was still the city of Akhmetov, to negotiate with him. Moreover, the goal of independence of Donbass was not originally set. The goal was - federalization of the whole of Ukraine and its GDP was the one that pierced it. Akhmetov also wants federalization, as in Kiev his enemies are now. However, Strelkov and Brain are the supporters of the branch and their goals are different from the people of Akhmetov. If Strelkov can create a real New Russia, and not virtual, as it was until now, then ours will support him more powerfully. There was no point in sending serious weapons to the people of Akhmetov, and after the drain of the storming of the airport, where many volunteers from the Russian Federation died, they tried to send volunteers the same less. In general, the first thing to do is Strelkov and Bolotov agree on a common command and government, as well as headquarters and rear. Well, then it all depends on them, if there is success, there will be more help.
        3. +2
          8 July 2014 14: 19
          Quote: ispaniard
          Igor Ivanovich Russia with you!

          love
        4. 242339
          +1
          8 July 2014 15: 05
          I support! Well said!
        5. +2
          8 July 2014 17: 59
          correctly speak better than real enemies than smart ass friends!
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    2. +22
      8 July 2014 07: 23
      SO YOU DIRECTLY, BANDEROVA RACE,
      DECIDED WHICH BOUND SOUTH-EAST?
      WORKING KHARKOV? MINERS FROM DONBASS?
      ODESSA? BETTER? CURVE HORN?
      DECIDED THAT YOUR HARA WILL HAPPEN
      OVER THE POOR AND DISAPPOINTED COUNTRY,
      AND FROZEN VIGOROUS IN THE BLOW
      WILL GO ON DERIBASOVSKAYA AND ON SUMSKAYA?
      DO YOU HAVE LOTS OF HONOR, LOBBY?
      YOU ARE HOLIDAYS, AND WHO SAME FEES YOU?
      PISCULOUS LVIV? Volyn or Cherkasy?
      YES NO, ALL THE SAME KHARKIV AND DONBASS!
      YOU ARE NOT UKRAINIANS. YOU. YOU ARE INFECT.
      BLOOD SPILLED UKRAINIAN SOLDIER
      IN BATTLES ON THE SLOPES OF THE GROWN CAUCASUS
      AND IN THE BATTLES FOR MOSCOW AND STALINGRAD.
      AND RUSSIAN BLOOD TAKEN WITHOUT MEASURE
      YOURS, UKRAINE, QUIET FIELDS,
      AND DNIPER, THE BASIS OF OUR FAITH,
      AND KIEV SACRED LAND ...
      YOU ARE, AS LUCKINS, CREATED FROM DEPOSITS,
      AND YOU TOGETHER CAME OUT OF IT,
      IN THE FACE OF HIS SHAME, MUCH CLONES,
      DIVISION SS GALICHINA.
      TOTAL ONLY YOU ARE A PARODITY, GUYS! AND YOU WILL GET COMPLETELY FROM US,
      HOW IT GOT ALREADY FULL WHEN
      DIVISION SS GALICHINA ...
      1. 0
        30 May 2022 13: 50
        Amazing poem!!!!!
    3. Validator
      +2
      8 July 2014 10: 42
      In general, there is a competent analysis in the article, but I do not agree about the assessment of Tsarev's role and goals. Tsarev definitely belongs to the "war party" before the victory, Kiev or even Lvov. Moreover, he is just actively involved in the state construction of Novorossia, about the capital said: "Kiev would suit us." He also supported Strelkov's departure from Slavyansk and be on friendly terms with him.
      1. +2
        8 July 2014 11: 24
        Tsarev has little influence in the Donbass, but he is ideally suited to us as the political leader of New Russia: a Russian, a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, a former presidential candidate of Ukraine, not a militant, not a nationalist, is not associated with open crime, a famous person has connections in Ukraine, therefore They will actively promote it and tie supply chains to it. Again, in the event of negotiations, Kiev may well speak with him, unlike Strelkov. In general, the favorites for the leadership of Novorossia are Tsarev, Bolotov and Borodai, but the military power is Strelkov, all the rest are in operation.
        1. Milanalana
          0
          8 July 2014 17: 13
          Kiev is going to talk with Tsarev only at the SBU, as they consider him a criminal and a traitor. brought a bunch of cases on him.
    4. +7
      8 July 2014 11: 28
      New Russia now rests only on Uncle Igor
      Uncle Igor, do not listen to anyone, do what you think is necessary!
      And watch out for the poison and dagger, even from those you consider yours ...
    5. Yuri Bogdanov
      0
      10 July 2014 08: 18
      In the USSR, China, the European Union, the United States, thieves power, because it steals from citizens of other countries, and in the Russian Federation, rat power, because it steals from citizens of its own country, and theft (criminal profession) is less immoral offense than rats (the highest degree of moral degradation of personality). Therefore, on the banner of United Russia, instead of the symbol "Bear", you need to draw the symbols "rat with big teeth + dog with big tits."
      Reduced exchange rate of stimulated export of excess goods (added and intellectual value) from developed economies to highly developed countries, in which overproduction crisis (rather than a financial crisis), in developed countries, during the crisis, the living standards of pensioners increase due to lower prices on the domestic market (in Russia it is exactly the opposite), because
      With a decrease in the ruble exchange rate, a decrease in the share of labor costs in the cost of production is compensated by a sharp increase in the share of material and energy costs in the cost of goods, we produce. in the Russian Federation because of the 2-3 times higher prices for energy resources in the Russian Federation, compared with the prices for them in developed countries, In Norway, the price is 1 liter benz. = 86 rubles, and the average salary = 180 thousand rubles, in Russia the price is 1 liter .benz = 31 rubles, and the average salary = 27 thousand rubles, i.e. the parity price is 1 liter. gasoline in the Russian Federation should be = 86 rubles / (180 thousand rubles / 27 thousand rubles) = 86 thousand rubles / 6,7 = 12,8 rubles. In Germany, the price of 1 kWh = 12,5 rubles, and the average salary = 120 thousand. rubles, in Russia the price is 1 kWh = 4,7 rubles, and the average salary = 27 thousand rubles, i.e. the parity price of 1 kWh in the Russian Federation should be = 12,5 rubles (120 thousand rubles / 27 thousand rubles) = 12,5 , 4,4rub / 2,84 = XNUMXrub, i.e. destruction occurs
      agriculture, the robbery of hired workers of the real economy, pensioners through indirect taxation (fraud introduced in the rank of law), the reduction of the real sector of the economy and the undermining of economic security of the state and relocated. added value (money) from the Subject. to the federal budget. In all developed. countries the main task of the executive power and forces. structure-ensuring the right of priority. used, mineral and biological resources of the country, the right to pay direct taxes of citizens of one’s own countries, and in the Russian Federation it exercises executive power and power structures, for the right to fill the gut (intestinal whoredom), securing the right to use mineral and biological first and foremost. resources of the Russian Federation, citizens of foreign countries, denying this right to 80% of citizens. In the times of the USSR, even in a criminal environment, the highest measure of moral humiliation (rinsing a person in a water lock of a toilet bowl) was used to convict those who were engaged in such activities. In this case, I do not mean military men, but a politician. leadership of the Russian Federation, which poses them with such tasks. In the Russian Federation, the main profession of the head of state and 70% of the Security Council are farmers in raising (female dogs, rats and provocateurs) among foreign citizens of the state (EXCITERS OF THE NORTH CAPITAL), and they, having caught rams, turned our country into this Farm.
  2. +20
    8 July 2014 07: 06
    Thanks to the author!
    It’s easy to read people by faces and their reports.
    We can’t be fogged up.
    For Strelkova! For our common fair victory!
  3. +25
    8 July 2014 07: 07
    God bless us further from these undercover games. I’ll say one thing, ANYTHING surrender Arrow the Russian people will not forgive now ...
  4. +3
    8 July 2014 07: 10
    Yes, such a mess was brewed. But you have to win !!!
  5. +15
    8 July 2014 07: 10
    Perhaps I will copy this post here, here it is just on the topic.
    Kurgenyan refused to go to talk to Strelkov. And how much pathos was ...


    And complement.
    1. +13
      8 July 2014 07: 19
      How many more such kurginyan with megalomania will be dirty
      "their" country.
    2. +5
      8 July 2014 08: 09
      Kurginyan- why didn’t go into the trenches, Lord, coward
    3. +1
      8 July 2014 12: 53
      Strelkov said ...
      Some also said a lot of things, what a person was attacked!
    4. 0
      8 July 2014 16: 40
      So far, such a Moscow, with an Armenian surname and non-traditional (or maybe it is already non-traditional with us?) Orientation, has the right not only to LIVE, but to SPEAK on our behalf - there will be no sense in Russia.
  6. +10
    8 July 2014 07: 10
    Akhmetov’s hired (Surkov’s ??) hysterical hoolopane is not the equivalent of Igor Ivanovich. Successes to Strelkov and for many years. To the gobyushnik inside Donetsk, Strelkov’s appearance is like a bone in his throat.
  7. KOH
    +7
    8 July 2014 07: 11
    The war quickly reveals who is who ...
  8. +8
    8 July 2014 07: 11
    Hay does not go to the cow! good I still laugh. Well done.
    This is called an easy, bye, cold shower on the heads of the "hot" guys)))
    I agree that all the hysteria because Strelkov ruined all plans for the "sawflies".
    And then the article was about supposedly leaving for Russia - you will survive and at the same time you will spoof Putin from this series.
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    2. +3
      8 July 2014 07: 41
      "HAaaamy" - Kisa Vorobyaninov some)
  9. +5
    8 July 2014 07: 12
    Yes, Strelkov does what he does - he fights, builds tactics and strategy, but the Internet slaughter is the business of couch fighters, repel attacks and all sorts of words and speech are welcome.
    1. +3
      8 July 2014 08: 24
      Quote: Siberian
      Strelkov does what he does - he fights, builds tactics and strategy

      - Seeing how shaky - not swiftly the formation of power and the militia is going on in New Russia, Strelkov came to distract the attention of the junta forces to himself, to the foremost post - Slavyansk, to give time to organize a mass militia. He managed to do this for a long time and the media helped to keep his attention on him. For the junta, he is a strong irritant, but as a stranger from a strange Crimea, this fact is constantly used in counter-propaganda. The departure of the Crimea, not the local leaders of the militia - do they hurt the pride of the Ukrainians? Offend! And how long they moo and calve, inside Donetsk still military units not subordinate and not disarmed until recently.
      Everyone shouts about the need for help, even with weapons. But there is no unity of command, there is, so far, loosely coupled unit commanders. There are still many questions for the population: what is the reason for the long road to unification of Lugansk with Donetsk, the course against the junta is unconditional, to New Russia, to Russia, and if it is hard and hard - ????
      Kurginyan is simply too emotional, it was obvious before (there are plenty of them even better), the role of Surkov is very exaggerated - it's all echoes from the past.
      Strelkov is trying to help the citizens of Novorossi, but he himself will not do anything for them (and even if his actions are thought out together with the General Staff of the Russian Federation).
  10. +8
    8 July 2014 07: 16
    God forbid, Igor Ivanovich, such friends, but with dill, I hope you yourself figure it out !!!))) Hold on and God help you.
  11. +1
    8 July 2014 07: 19
    Yes, it’s hard to be between a rock and a hard place, and even harder to be in limbo - you need the Shooters of Russia!?, Or not!?.
    1. zzz
      zzz
      +1
      8 July 2014 09: 01
      Quote: mig31
      Yes, it’s hard to be between a rock and a hard place, and even harder to be in limbo - you need the Shooters of Russia!?, Or not!?.


      I think that Putin needs him. It is in order to identify and clean 5,6,7 ... columns. Let him release all the disgraced generals. Need to clean all the trash. Who else can he rely on except Glazyev and Rogozin?
  12. +10
    8 July 2014 07: 20
    Therefore, the propaganda campaign "Strelkov-traitor" was launched, when various hypocrites are trying to throw mud at Strelkov, trying to save the crumbling combination of Surkov with Akhmetov and Co.

    And we did not believe in "Strelkov the traitor"! The dirt "does not stick" to it! And here is the "5th Column"! And one "bright" representative of it - Surkov! Maybe it's time to "clean the Augean stables" in the Kremlin ?!
  13. djtyysq
    +7
    8 July 2014 07: 20
    You can poison a stray dog, but poisoning a person with a capital letter, the dogs themselves barking into the void !!!
    1. pahom54
      0
      8 July 2014 14: 20
      Quote: "You can poison a stray dog ​​..."
      What is the dog for? Well, if only mad ...
  14. anti-beetles
    -4
    8 July 2014 07: 21
    So write down the names and nicknames of these characters who, voluntarily or unknowingly, act as grave diggers of the DPR. The enemy must be known in person.


    We will record, hold on.
  15. +4
    8 July 2014 07: 21
    After reading the article, I would like to ask, where is our "respected deeply respected", what policy does he conduct with respect to the DPR?
    Or is Surkov in charge of all politics? And what then does the "deeply respected" lead?
    Or maybe they together lead the transformation of Ukraine into a neo-Nazi state?
    Or individually?
  16. +4
    8 July 2014 07: 22
    I had not liked Kurginyan before (to put it mildly), but I doubted. Now I have no doubt.
    1. +1
      8 July 2014 12: 44
      Personally, I, until recent events, impressed Kurginyanu, but after that stupidity, as it seems to me personally, a person does not realize who the loaf crumbles for, he simply becomes an outcast among his own supporters! These political meteorisms towards Strelkov will still come out sideways to him!
  17. +8
    8 July 2014 07: 23
    Surkov should hang next to Chubais, Fursenko and Kudrin.
    And no one is Kurginyan. And there he all the more has no weight.
    1. +7
      8 July 2014 09: 44
      Quote: Flinky
      Surkov should hang next to Chubais, Fursenko and Kudrin.

      Ek, where you got it.
      Fursenko - LSU, dacha cooperative "Lake". Companion of GDP
      Kudrin - Leningrad State University, City Hall Petersburg since the time of Sobchak. Companion of GDP
      Surkov - SpNaz GRU. The bodyguard of Khodorkovsky (who was later gobbled up, having gone over to the GDP) One of their founders and ideologists of the United Russia party. helped President Yeltsin carry out a peaceful transition of power. Among those who helped President Putin stabilize the political system. "
      Companion of GDP.
      Chubais - Just Chubais. After the defeat in the election, Sobchak took the GDP to the Presidential Administration. BENEFACTOR.

      And you - to hang!
      As VVP said - "If everyone is jailed, then there will be no one to work with"
      1. -1
        8 July 2014 09: 57
        Quote: Normal
        Fursenko - LSU, dacha cooperative "Lake". Companion of GDP

        Quote: Normal
        Kudrin - Leningrad State University, City Hall Petersburg since the time of Sobchak. Companion of GDP

        Normal-vocational school, sitting scribbling komenty in opposition laughing
      2. zzz
        zzz
        0
        8 July 2014 10: 03
        Quote: Normal
        And you - to hang!
        As VVP said - "If everyone is jailed, then there will be no one to work with"

        Is hopelessness obtained?
        1. +2
          8 July 2014 11: 07
          Quote: zzz

          Is hopelessness obtained?

          Well ... there is little.
          But, nothing lasts forever under the moon. GDP is not eternal, as the personification of the power of the adhesion of the security forces and the oligarchy. Putin is not forever as a person. The trouble about the savior of the country in the minds of the population does not last forever.
          Everything is changing.
          Let's hope and wait ....
          Since we ourselves do not want to act or are afraid.
          Wait for the thread ...
      3. +1
        8 July 2014 11: 24
        Quote: Normal
        "If everyone is imprisoned, then there will be no one to work with"

        this phrase has another meaning - no one else "from the outside" can be accepted there
  18. +13
    8 July 2014 07: 24
    There was some kind of turbidity in Donetsk! The article put everything in its place!
    God bless you defenders of the DNI!
  19. +5
    8 July 2014 07: 25
    "At the same time, in Donetsk, work on the creation of a unified military command is being sabotaged in 3 months, the fact of the presence of authorities subordinate to Kiev is ignored, state building is being drained into the toilet, and the militia units are scattered, poorly organized and unable to solve offensive tasks - the fact that for May-June no groups were organized to strike at the outer ring of the encirclement of Slavyansk best of all indicates the reluctance of a number of individuals to wage a real war. "

    - Considering that we all see this, the layout of the article is similar to the truth. Always and everywhere people are puffed up for playing tops of their own pockets :(
  20. +9
    8 July 2014 07: 29
    I have already written several times about Surkov, if he positioned himself as a gray cardinal, then he would behave accordingly. No, the guy loves himself in art, not art in himself. By the way, the last trick in the same spirit, Misha Leontyev, in his "However," almost climbed into the exorbitant pathos - Surkov is the main hope of Novorossiya.
    Here's a personal note - PEOPLE REMEMBER THESE ITEMS, ONLY USUAL OBSERVATION IS NECESSARY, scoundrels and thieves always come across on sweets and antlers. He wants power, while he has more punctures than good. You just have to sit down at the search engine and rummage through recent history.
    And Strelkov GOOD LUCK !!! Health to you Igor Ivanovich!
  21. +3
    8 July 2014 07: 30
    the swamp was stirred up with political dishonesty! you would have rats first defended the republic and then divided the power. Strelkov needed to immediately take power into his own hands and act with enemies and provocateurs according to the laws of the war
  22. Khalmamed
    +2
    8 July 2014 07: 34
    ..... for the wicked in all ages and for all the methods are the same:
    1. defamation
    2. setup
    3. killing
    ..... th zombie program.
  23. +3
    8 July 2014 07: 36
    again a burda that they want to instill in us simpletons - like "Shiites" "Sunites" "Alawites" "Muslim brothers, etc., etc. so here it is necessary to powder the brains with all sorts of" Bandera "" basics "" dons "- all these are bandits controlled by the CIA through their agents who have settled in Kiev; the main task (arrest or destruction) of a group of saboteurs who have settled in Kiev is still unresolved; and in vain Mr. borders with Israel, something will begin to do and that's good
    1. +2
      8 July 2014 08: 14
      It is necessary to take an example from Israel-offended-get back ...
    2. +2
      8 July 2014 08: 46
      Um, it’s not so easy to do as in the fairy tale about the hero, he waved his sword to the left - a clearing, waved to the right - an alley ... etc.

      There is Putin, there is an army - the pain is less controlled. And to be Stalin-you need to have a completely loyal police and the FSB. And then after all, a step to the left - a step to the right - is blown away.
      Initially, Putin was put by the oligarchy to protect Russia's sovereignty. For without Russia, our oligarchy is nothing. He protects sovereignty, and with obvious attempts to rule the internal mechanism, without full control of all security forces, you can get an accident, as with Lebedev. And without controlling the bulk of the oligarchy, you can get Maidan, as in Kiev. (Have you seen how Putin changed governors during these three months?)
  24. +8
    8 July 2014 07: 36
    Never doubted courage, devotion and true loyalty to the people of Novorossiya repeatedly proved by I.I. Strelkov and no dirt will stick to his name, but scum and traitors will have a hard time! But the most important thing now is to do everything to protect real patriots and soldiers from treacherous stabs in the back from both the junta and the Moscow (Surkov) traitors! The reconstituted KGB should come to grips with exactly this - cleaning up the "Augean stables" of betrayal! Glory to the Heroes of Donbass! Eternal memory of the fallen heroes! I would like to suggest that you familiarize yourself with Wasserman's latest interview about the state of affairs in Novorossia, where he highly appreciated the actions of I.I.Strelkov!
  25. +5
    8 July 2014 07: 38
    I will be brief. Kurginyan is everything.
  26. +5
    8 July 2014 07: 38
    Politicians love oligarchs and do not like people of honor and principles.
    Shooters are a popular field commander, Akhmetov is an oligarch.
    They do not agree with the field commanders to destroy them, you can always agree with the oligarchs - they are traders and are always ready to sell themselves - the main thing is to get the price.
  27. +4
    8 July 2014 07: 41
    That’s p.l.a.t. everywhere traitors, someone is fighting, and these bastards are engaged in covert games.
  28. +7
    8 July 2014 07: 42
    I liked the article. The author correctly arranges everything, without hysteria and cheers-patriotism, everything is reasoned. It just so happened that for 2 months I fell out of what was happening and lost the essence and logic. The article helped put everything in its place again. Thanks to the author. And of course, good luck, success to Igor Ivanovich. Strong and loyal friends and associates.
  29. +5
    8 July 2014 07: 42
    And with such a policy pursued from Moscow, someone thinks that Strelkova will be supplied with weapons from Russia ??? Yes never
    1. +2
      8 July 2014 08: 02
      Hmm, weapons, including heavy ones, already partially lie in the warehouses of Lugansk. Ksat Strelok was really prepared by someone for the slaughter, judging by the delivered 18pcs. RPGs of expired and not fired and similar missiles for ATGMs (more than 40).
      1. +3
        8 July 2014 08: 06
        Quote: Deff
        already partially lies in the warehouses of Lugansk

        the key word - lies, and if there was so much of this stuff there was something no one was in a hurry to help Slavyansk
        1. 0
          8 July 2014 09: 04
          Well, if you look at the current deeds of Strelka, he is currently engaged in the fact that he will unite the military leadership in both republics into a single whole. This also means a single supply-security.
          1. 0
            8 July 2014 11: 19
            Quote: Deff
            This also means a single supply-security.

            you can certainly think so, but somehow Strelkov wrote that Lugansk was reluctant to share arms with him, in this connection they will say like we got here, and now give it back to me, there’s nothing there will be no unity
      2. Alexan
        0
        8 July 2014 20: 37
        But here Strelkov said to the camera: These are expired ammunition from Ukrainian depots. I didn’t tell the truth, substitute!
  30. Pavlova
    +9
    8 July 2014 07: 43
    The article is timely, gives an understanding of the situation, opens up the backstage of what is happening in Donetsk and the Kremlin. The desire to debunk Strelkov is awkward and causes rejection, understanding of the whole complexity of the situation, not only militarily, but in political games, in the mercantile ideology of the ruling circles, which do not need patriotism and independence of the republics, if not more - harmful. STRELKOV DESERVED LOVE AND RESPECT FOR PEOPLE DO NOT BE BLADY AND CALLBACK, NOT AN INTIRIGUES AND POLITICAL GAMES, BUT FIGHT FOR SIMPLE PEOPLE, FOR THEIR HAPPY TOMORROW
  31. ilya_82
    +5
    8 July 2014 07: 43
    I want to believe the article, otherwise the depressed man attacked yesterday
    1. +5
      8 July 2014 08: 00
      And you try to cope with your depresnyak yourself, I can give advice - do something useful. If Strelkov, Putin, Lavrov begin to admire themselves and fall into depressions? Whining has never helped anyone.
  32. +4
    8 July 2014 07: 45
    nahalenok911  July 5, 2014 19:01 | New reports from Novorossia and data on shelling of a Russian checkpoint

    I read comments and wonder. Until recently, Putin was Ilya Muromets, Lavrov with Churkin - a model of diplomacy and the essence of the Russian soul ... And now they all, on command, have a pale appearance. What happened to us, gentlemen, comrades? People do not change; our attitude towards them changes. Whose forces? The truth is somewhere in between. Find the middle, do not drive the wave.

    So there are answers to the question "Whose powers?" Thanks!
  33. +8
    8 July 2014 07: 59
    To the author - respect. Much becomes clear: both idle chatter and the lack of concrete assistance and recognition of New Russia. Although, blaming everything on Groundhog is too simplifying the situation. He fulfills the order and tries to resolve the situation as he can. Hold on, Shooter. You are doing it right. The common people are with you and Victory will be yours.
  34. +7
    8 July 2014 08: 01
    I support Strelkov and the military wing of Novorossiya with all my heart ... It doesn't matter what they write to us, that in the ranks of the militia there are marginalized of all stripes, Russian "semi-fascists" - Barkashovites and Limonovites, but anyone ... These are the people whose military talents are hostile to the Russians the world is more afraid than our atomic missiles and submarines ... These people, having come to a showdown with the junta with a construction knife and a commercial Berdan gun, got out of the blow from a column of military vehicles and army machine guns, pretty much beat the Luftwaffe and Panzerwaffe of the junta, beating off they hunt for frontal and unprepared attacks ... And the Luftwaffe ukrov generally switched to bombing villages that are at least 5-10 km away from the militia positions ... And all these "negotiators" and "PR managers" from Moscow are shaking for every penny their financial and political gesheft ... If the Americans love controlled chaos, then our "pseudo-patriots" love controlled patriotism ...
  35. +6
    8 July 2014 08: 02
    Pretty convincing article.
    A question arises for Putin, why did he warm such an odious figure as Surkov?
    Once he nearly brought his actions to a coup.
    1. +4
      8 July 2014 08: 12
      Yes, damn it, remember the story, not Putin warmed. Yeltsin is Yatsenyuk version of 001, which put the State Department. Surkov was already with him. (Do you really have no association with the Maidan, the suppression of the putsch of the State Emergency Committee and the subsequent defeat of the parliament?) Alfa Group, when it felt that Russia would soon be Finger, and together with Russia, tried to nominate a leader who could stand up for sovereignty and opposed to the state idea of ​​dividing Russia as a conglomerate: areas of mini-states, the idea of ​​a single and indivisible. They chose from nearby and significant ones (Putin has already gone through the school of the head of the FSB) and imposed counterbalances from Jewry on him as restraints. Medvedev, Surkov and Liberals, so as not to immediately fight with the States and to know and control his steps. United Russia is Surkov’s draft version of securing a monopoly on power.
      1. +3
        8 July 2014 08: 51
        Quote: Deff
        Deff

        From that it is a pity that we, the people, are pawns in their undercover game.
        For more people like Igor Ivanovich Strelkov.
      2. zzz
        zzz
        0
        8 July 2014 09: 19
        Quote: Deff
        Yes, damn it, remember the story, not Putin warmed.


        Deff! I always read your posts with interest. Do you think Putin will be able to thin out the liberals against the backdrop of Ukrainian events? Is there any hope?
  36. +3
    8 July 2014 08: 03
    Everything will be fine! Despite everything that is said and written about Strelkov, he has his own life position, and the fact that he took responsibility for the fate of SE only arouses respect.
  37. 3vs
    +5
    8 July 2014 08: 04
    I would very much like the experience of Igor Strelkov to be used in
    Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    1. +4
      8 July 2014 08: 11
      Quote: 3vs
      I would very much like the experience of Igor Strelkov to be used in
      Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

      -----------------------
      Yes, Igor Ivanovich doesn’t do anything, the assault in the city has long been studied during the capture of large European cities during the Second World War, and Grozny was not so long ago the object of battle ... All this is well known ... Igor Ivanovich just skillfully uses his military knowledge historian ...
      1. +2
        8 July 2014 12: 56
        Igor Ivanovich just skillfully uses his knowledge of a military historian ...

        In addition to his knowledge of history, Igor Ivanovich has colossal combat experience, including the anti-partisan struggle in Chechnya!
    2. +1
      8 July 2014 11: 15
      already there - kvachkov ...
  38. +6
    8 July 2014 08: 06
    "If Strelkov's reputation cannot be destroyed, then of course they will try to kill him,"

    But this is the most dangerous thing that can happen. There is hardly a similar figure. attempts will be unconditionally and they should not be underestimated.

    "Of course, it's not worth idealizing Strelkov, of course he is unlikely to make an intelligent statesman, and his ideological views are, frankly, specific,"

    Yes it is. The shooter is not a politician, he is a soldier. He is a general.
    1. lg41
      +3
      8 July 2014 08: 11
      "Shooters are not a politician, he is a soldier. He is a general" - it is rightly said.
      It’s good that such an article appeared. It’s a pity that not two months ago
      1. +1
        8 July 2014 08: 26
        Yes, there were throws that Pushilin (?) And Boroday trade in the DPR with Kiev behind Strelkov’s back a month and a half ago, look on the internet. And in general, that their appearance on the stage is connected with Akhmetov. And perhaps, like the Akhmetovsky project of increasing influence in Kiev, because with the fall of Yanuk, he was pushed back.
  39. +5
    8 July 2014 08: 23
    Strelkov is a true successor to the galaxy of great Russian military leaders. These are Suvorov of our time, and we will hear about him more than once. Glory itself flies over him.
    Victory to you Igor Ivanovich! There were, we will.
  40. USSR citizen
    +4
    8 July 2014 08: 24
    I know Strelkov, I know Brain and Gubarev, I even know Tsarev ... (in the sense of reading and trying to comprehend)
    And what kind of rats crawled out ... Kurginyany ???
    No, I do not know! and I don’t want to know.
  41. zzz
    zzz
    +2
    8 July 2014 08: 25
    Wow!! What an article! The author put everything on the shelves!
  42. +3
    8 July 2014 08: 27
    Kurginyan said that HIS people are fighting in Donetsk. And with whom they are fighting, since in Donetsk they have not been waged and are not yet fighting, and why is this scum (Kurginyan, after his monologue, the language of NNI does not turn out differently) wishes death to I.I. Strelkov. And how much Kurginyan was paid for this false propaganda.
  43. +5
    8 July 2014 08: 28
    A good analytical article explains a lot. But even so it was clear that the main enemies of New Russia are sitting in the form of a 5 column in Moscow. If the GDP has enough resolve, it will begin to purge such g ... no, they will merge it together with Russia. How easy it is for the Americans to work against us because of such a st ... and.
  44. +1
    8 July 2014 08: 30
    Yes, behind-the-scenes games will not lead to anything good! I repeat that politics is a dirty thing, and after reading the article, a lot falls into place! Our oligarchs all share the skin of an unkilled bear! SHARE !!! And God help Strelkov, right man!
  45. skurchaev
    0
    8 July 2014 08: 36
    Drive such traitors Kurginyans neck
  46. 0
    8 July 2014 08: 38
    There is even nothing to talk about, pkurginyan su .. dig trenches, and Igor Ivanovich will successfully clean up the fronda, S Y, who knows, he will understand if the "prokhor of" is not balabol and he is there, get ready friend for a penal battalion.
  47. +2
    8 July 2014 08: 39
    I will not say a lot of pathos and patriotic words, but IGOR IVANOVICH is a MAN with a capital letter, such as he hold the concepts of heroism, patriotism, justice and operational thinking soldier
  48. 0
    8 July 2014 08: 42
    It seems that Kurginyan is the enemy, but what is being done with the enemies? ..... right!
  49. +1
    8 July 2014 08: 48
    It can be seen that for three months in Donetsk there was only one talking room. Rather, they shared chairs that still need to be conquered. Unlike Lugansk, everything is somehow unclear there.
  50. +3
    8 July 2014 08: 51
    And you won’t put these bastards on the wall ... But Surkov needs to be removed, yes.
    1. 0
      8 July 2014 16: 37
      Campaign is not his last name.
  51. +1
    8 July 2014 09: 01
    Nothing can erase the name of the Hero from the hearts of people; he is already a symbol of the new Russia!
  52. +1
    8 July 2014 09: 10
    Strelkov has great Military Experience and even more Authority among the people who are now making History, defending the Future of Russia (while others are riding in Moscow), and for this reason he has considerable support. The wind of change will create a powerful typhoon against the overfed West and the Americans.
  53. +2
    8 July 2014 09: 40
    The price of these hidden games is thousands of human lives. And Strelkov is fighting for the future of not only Novorossiya, but all of Russia.
  54. pahom54
    +1
    8 July 2014 09: 40
    Eh, politicians... Damn your name... Call Strelkov a traitor... You are the traitors, traitors worse than Judas Iscariot...
    Mlyn, how tired of everything... This unsinkable Surkov and others like them, the “voice of the people” (that’s what they think) Kurginyan-Makarevich-Nemtsov and, God forgive me, Novodvorskaya...
    I have never been a Stalinist, but now lately I keep thinking about the benefits of the offensive of 1937, only in a new capacity...
    And God grant Strelkov health and mental strength in the fight against Evil!
  55. +1
    8 July 2014 09: 44
    Message from the militia

    VERY IMPORTANT! Verified information from a source on the spot. Construction equipment appeared in the area of ​​​​the outskirts of Slavyansk, where previously there were positions of the junta troops. Excavation work is underway, the territory is guarded, posts from the national guards are placed along the perimeter, patrols are underway; Apparently, they are opening their own burial grounds, where they previously buried conscript soldiers who refused to shoot at civilians, and their punishers.
    This is especially correlated with other information received from Kiev - there is evidence that ukroSMI are going to mount a report in which they want to talk about the "atrocities" of the militia, supposedly, they say, shot civilians. Considering that the natsgadah had already been shot around 20 civilians after the Ukrainian army entered Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, the provocation could take place literally today or tomorrow. A source from Kiev reported that the report is scheduled for tomorrow.

    Please maximize this situation in social networks in order to prevent this vile provocation.
  56. Second
    +1
    8 July 2014 09: 53
    Very correct article. Let me make one more interesting judgment. It shows very well all the vile behind-the-scenes Kremlin games.

    “Eh, Rusky, come on, get up in Slavyansk, and the tank-artillery will shoot at you, all will kill you, they call it three hundred Spartans! And then we’ll say, “Ah-wai, what a three-hundred Spartan beat! Ai-wai, the bad guy is meaner than Poroshenko , ah-wai, what a shame, Strelkov killed all of them, who’s going to say, “Go to hell, Medvedchuk!” now!”
    PS I listened to Kurginyan’s interview yesterday. This is a real traitor, a provocateur and simply a bad person.
  57. 0
    8 July 2014 10: 44
    It turns out very interesting... A couple of thoughts. I think the departure from Slavyansk was planned, perhaps 2-3 weeks ago. The question is where and to whom. It seems to me that Bes and his squad navigated the Internal Affairs Directorate for a reason, the network of the fifth column was immediately revealed, incl. and at the top of the DPR. They immediately started shouting that the Demon was uncontrollable, was playing his own game, etc. They talked about it on TV. And what happened, they stormed the Internal Affairs Directorate, which was not subordinate to the DPR... Communication, in view of communication, between Bes and Strelok, I think, could not be more direct. So Strelok came, knowing in advance who he could trust and who he couldn’t. I was a little surprised that the Donetsk people were well equipped, but practically nothing came to help Strelkov, he himself confirmed this. The witch hunt begins.
    1. 0
      8 July 2014 12: 10
      There’s also this: when the Demon stormed the Internal Affairs Directorate, it was to the aid of those at the Internal Affairs Directorate the Vostok battalion arrived.And who controls it is clearly clear from the article.
  58. 0
    8 July 2014 10: 44
    It turns out very interesting... A couple of thoughts. I think the departure from Slavyansk was planned, perhaps 2-3 weeks ago. The question is where and to whom. It seems to me that Bes and his squad navigated the Internal Affairs Directorate for a reason, the network of the fifth column was immediately revealed, incl. and at the top of the DPR. They immediately started shouting that the Demon was uncontrollable, was playing his own game, etc. They talked about it on TV. And what happened, they stormed the Internal Affairs Directorate, which was not subordinate to the DPR... Communication, in view of communication, between Bes and Strelok, I think, could not be more direct. So Strelok came, knowing in advance who he could trust and who he couldn’t. I was a little surprised that the Donetsk people were well equipped, but practically nothing came to help Strelkov, he himself confirmed this. The witch hunt begins.
  59. +2
    8 July 2014 11: 15
    The whole essence of the Kurginyans:




    1. +1
      8 July 2014 11: 26
      Only Kurgin residents give negative comments.
    2. +3
      8 July 2014 12: 29
      I didn’t like this guy right away, he was somehow painfully cunning and slippery.
  60. 0
    8 July 2014 11: 22
    It turns out very interesting... A couple of thoughts. I think the departure from Slavyansk was planned, perhaps 2-3 weeks ago. The question is where and to whom. It seems to me that Bes and his squad navigated the Internal Affairs Directorate for a reason, the network of the fifth column was immediately revealed, incl. and at the top of the DPR. They immediately started shouting that the Demon was uncontrollable, was playing his own game, etc. They talked about it on TV. And what happened, they stormed the Internal Affairs Directorate, which was not subordinate to the DPR... Communication, in view of communication, between Bes and Strelok, I think, could not be more direct. So Strelok came, knowing in advance who he could trust and who he couldn’t. I was a little surprised that the Donetsk people were well equipped, but practically nothing came to help Strelkov, he himself confirmed this. The witch hunt begins.
  61. 0
    8 July 2014 12: 23
    Quote: Belarus
    There’s also this: when the Demon stormed the Internal Affairs Directorate, it was to the aid of those at the Internal Affairs Directorate the Vostok battalion arrived.And who controls it is clearly clear from the article.


    Exactly. It makes me think... And there is discord in the DPR.
    I wonder where Bes is now, who knows?
  62. +2
    8 July 2014 12: 28
    The article is very useful and gives rise to some thoughts. like: who needs war and why?
    Well done Strelkov acted very thoughtfully and cunningly (at first I, like him, succumbed to the provocation, I don’t understand what really happened and why). God grant him good luck and health with strength in his just cause.

    But I have a question: Is the GDP generally not aware of the fact that it is simply not considered for who it is?
    In general, VVP has clear plans regarding what to do and what to do with the Kyiv and, in fact, Donetsk junta? Why, if he sees everything, not kick Surkov in the ass and send him to “retire”? Why does VVP look at everything and do nothing? It does nothing!!! Diplomatic ballet does not count.

    In my opinion, the Kyiv junta has already passed all the “red lines” - the murder of correspondents, essentially regular shelling of the territory of the Russian Federation, the murder of children of old women, the use of weapons of mass destruction and chemical weapons, and much more.
    There is an opinion that even if the GDP wants to do something, something is very much stopping it. But what’s stopping it??? Why can’t the GDP throw off what’s stopping it??? Give the GDP to Surkov and Co. in the ass and everything will go well for You!

    Well, how else can you relate to what happened in the SE and the reaction of the Russian Federation which, like a chicken in a henhouse, is running around all sorts of European authorities where they are openly laughing with the Russian Federation and calmly predicting its actions in advance??????
    1. Milanalana
      +2
      8 July 2014 17: 43
      If you watched VVP speak in Brussels recently, you might have noticed that he was out of his element. I’ve never seen him like this, lost or something. After this visit, something happened there, but what, one can only guess
  63. 0
    8 July 2014 12: 51
    I can’t understand why some “authors” consider it possible to participate in the oligarchs’ dances on the bones of civilians being exterminated in Novorossiya.
    Some water Strelkov, others Akhmetov and Surkov. People, aren't you ashamed? There is a war going on there. People are dying there, militia men, women, children, and here you are earning money from the oligarchs. I understand that this is a “response” to an attempt to discredit Strelkov. But write the truth, and don’t organize political games, like your opponents, because
    Now actually in essence. The article is clearly directed against Akhmetov, Surkov and Akhmetov’s people in Donetsk, in particular, the “long-suffering” Khodakovsky, who has already been demonized for the airport, flashed through. But the article is only half true, and therefore it is much weaker than the truth. But it is not only weaker, it is simply harmful, because it creates a split in the ranks of the militia. And, again, it hits the Russian leadership, especially if you look at comments like “who hired Surkov back…”. And this is already work for the fifth column. So what's wrong? And everything is very simple. The article says. that Akhmetov is playing a double game, preparing the surrender of Donetsk to the junta. Mr. author, what were you thinking when you wrote this? Yes, the Kyiv oligarchs from Kolomoisky to Poroshenko are only dreaming and see how to share the “Akhmetov legacy.” Do you think Akhmetov is such a fool that he doesn’t understand this? Hardly. So what's the deal? But the fact is that on the other side of the Russian border there are no less people who want to strip this nouveau riche naked. Moreover, many people in Ukraine lost their business after the coup; there was an article about Kolomoisky’s raiding, but this is only the tip of the iceberg. And, it must be said that oligarchs are not wolves, they do not live in packs. These are single cats who have only temporary alliances of interests. You look at the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. For how many years have they been putting spokes in each other’s wheels, which is perhaps good, since it prevents them from dividing the world and establishing their power over it. So here too, someone from the Russian side has already prepared a knife to cut Akhmetov’s pie, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Kadyrov (most likely, of course, not alone), since the topic with the Chechens in Donetsk is somehow murky. Naturally, Akhmetov, like a shot sparrow, found a defender among those influential people in Russia who were not invited to share his property. Having promised a share for protection, he received it from the same Surkov. However, judging by the unfolding war of incriminating evidence, the struggle there has not yet ended, or rather, it is in full swing. Here it is also important to look at opinions about the weakness of Donetsk’s defense. What is the weakness? Is it that Donetsk is being attacked from both sides, but cannot be taken? No, the fact is that Donetsk “did not help Strelkov” in Slavyansk. And my question is, WHY? WHAT, the Donetsk could destroy the dill group on Karachun? And without this, even a stable supply corridor did not give Strelkov anything, since the dill had not tried to take Slavyansk by storm for a long time, but simply terrorized its inhabitants. At the same time, the Donetsk forces had to throw their still weak uncoupled formations, which were also under attack from the flank, to break through the “corridor”. A very wise strategy. This is what is wrong in the article.
    1. 0
      8 July 2014 12: 52
      Why is it dangerous? Let's start with the fact that the so-called "Kadyrov" side throws mud at the pro-Akhmetov militias, accusing them of trying to surrender Donetsk and, what is even more dangerous, for the airport, where they directly accused Khodakovsky of a "set-up." Thus, the pro-Akhmetov battalion "Vostok" is opposed to other formations of the army of Novorossiya. Which in no way improves the defense capability of Novorossiya, especially during decisive battles. I would suggest first fighting back, and then solving the problems of redistribution of property. Secondly, as I already said, it casts a shadow on the GDP, which is strongly associated with Surkov; even Kurginyan was signed up as an emissary of the Kremlin. And this is generally a global danger against the backdrop of the fact that the war in Novorossiya is going on with great difficulty and heavy losses among our brothers. Third, they are starting to present Strelkov as some kind of independent figure who has some kind of personal influence on the situation (and, consequently, economic interests), exposing him to attack from all sides. Starting from the fact that Akhmetov’s supporters will want to “deal with him”, and to the fact that their opponents may be frightened of his popularity, they have only one concept, a person gains political points with the sole purpose of turning them into banknotes and specie . Oligarchs always judge by themselves.
      In this situation, it seems to me, Strelkov’s actions are very indicative. He abandons Slavyansk and goes with his people to Donetsk in order to defend it. Donetsk has enough of its own defenders. As the development of the situation shows. Then WHY did Strelkov rush so sharply to Donetsk? That's right, in order to stop the quarrel. Take command into single hands and wage the war to a victorious end. What do you think, if Strelkov was just a reenactor, would the “people’s governors” and “field commanders” with more than 3 thousand “bayonets” listen to him with his 5 thousand fighters? Yes, in Donetsk there would already be at least a three-way war in full swing. And there everything was quiet and Strelkov took command. Why do you think Strelkov is not ordered by either the Surkovites-Akhmetovites or the “Kadyrovites”? Maybe because behind him is someone who will crush them all with one click?
      1. 0
        8 July 2014 15: 02
        alicante11 two questions.
        1. How is it that you have both “Donetsk had to throw in their still weak, uncoupled formations to break through the “corridor”” и “What do you think, if Strelkov was just a reenactor, would the “people’s governors” and “field commanders” with more than 3 thousand “bayonets” listen to him with his 5 thousand fighters?. What I mean is whether the bayonets are strong or weak is unclear.
        2. How to defend a city surrounded without a sufficient amount of supplies without the possibility of replenishing personnel and without a sufficient amount of heavy weapons in this situation. In your opinion, it turns out that the reason for Strelkov’s departure was to stop the quarrel. That is, that everything was quite stable there in Slavyansk and it was possible to sit until victory?
        1. 0
          8 July 2014 16: 32
          1. How is it that you have at the same time “the Donetsk forces had to throw their still weak, unstructured formations to break through the “corridor”” and “What do you think, if Strelkov was just a reenactor, the people’s governors would have listened to him and his 3 thousand fighters?” " and "field commanders" who have more than 5 thousand "bayonets"? What I mean is whether the bayonets are strong or weak is unclear.


          The bayonets WERE weak. And then the corridor was already useless. Now they are already stronger. Although, of course, it is not a fact that these 5 thousand are stronger than Strelkov’s three. But if they clash, the dill will clearly win.

          2. How to defend a city surrounded without a sufficient amount of supplies without the possibility of replenishing personnel and without a sufficient amount of heavy weapons in this situation. In your opinion, it turns out that the reason for Strelkov’s departure was to stop the quarrel. That is, that everything was quite stable there in Slavyansk and it was possible to sit until victory?


          By and large, in response to the first part of your question, you need to write a short article, at a minimum. If you are interested in my opinion, please PM me. Here I will limit myself to two points. Grozny-95 and the fact that the dill stopped trying to take Slavyansk, having received lyuli from Strelkov. And mostly they hammered with artillery. The losses of the militia amounted to several people per day, “200” and “300”. You can calculate for yourself how long it would take to destroy them.
          Regarding the second part of the question. He even sat there for too long. I should have quit a week ago. Because there was no point in sitting under Karachunov’s umbrella. If you don’t show any activity, they’ll throw shells at you. And the militia in Donetsk has already strengthened. However, I will not consider myself smarter than Igor Ivanovich and his leadership. They know better when to go out. So, in fact, combine business with pleasure. We broke out “into operational space” and restored order in Donetsk.
      2. Milanalana
        +1
        8 July 2014 17: 48
        I have the impression that you are Akhmetov himself. And what about - it’s quiet in Donetsk, it’s no longer quiet, in the Petrovsky district they’ve already bombed, or rather hit two houses... Poltorak said that Donetsk will probably not be shelled by the militias, as they always shell themselves
  64. +1
    8 July 2014 13: 15
    Strelkov’s breakthrough obviously increases his strength and capabilities many times over, and the Kremlin now does not know what to do - the illusion of a quick end to the ATO has completely dissipated. According to rumors, the first purges have already begun in Donetsk among commanders and officials who have not yet understood that they are now unconditionally subordinate to Igor Ivanovich, the Makhnovshchina is over, “now you are in the army, son.”

    article: Return of the Jedi: the rebirth of Igor Strelkov.
    Full text here-
    http://3mv.ru/publ/vozvrashhenie_dzhedaja_vtoroe_rozhdenie_igorja_strelkova/3-1-
    0-28540
  65. Simonov
    +2
    8 July 2014 13: 23
    Competent article. +++
    Well done Igor Ivanovich for playing with his unmarked cards. In order to diminish his influence, the political hysterical Purgenyan was sent to Novorossiya. This liar, talker and laugher will stir up conversations in the rear with nothing but his presence. Apparently, the alligarchs have not yet decided to directly eliminate Strelkov. For now, it was decided to limit ourselves to discrediting and a forced reduction in the importance of the national hero.
  66. 0
    8 July 2014 13: 25
    I didn’t expect that Kurginyan would be used like that. And that he would even fall for this dirty game against Strelkov
    1. 0
      8 July 2014 13: 34
      Quote: Ugra
      I didn’t expect that Kurginyan would be used like that. And that he would even fall for this dirty game against Strelkov

      Nobody uses it. Kurginyan is an ordinary political prostitute who works for the owner and voices the things he needs, hiding behind the cheap guise of Soviet jingoism.
  67. +1
    8 July 2014 13: 55
    Kurginyan = dogs.
  68. 0
    8 July 2014 14: 01
    Quote: yushch
    Article is super !!!
    I disagree with only one thing. The author says that Strelkov will not work out a good statesman. The author does not take into account the role of the Personality in History, for example, Pinochet, Franco, Mussolini. I think Strelkova with his abilities can be completely controlled by the state administration.

    Do you really have no one else to use as an example other than these fascist dictators? We also found someone to compare Strelkov with!
  69. 0
    8 July 2014 14: 06
    Petition against Kurginyan

    http://www.change.org/ru/петиции/главнокомандующему-вооруженными-силами-донецкой
    -people's-republic-and-strelkova-request-to-send-located-on-the-territory-
    DPR-citizen-of-the-Russian-federation-Kurginyan-Sergei-ervandovich-dig-trenches#shar
    e
  70. Serg7281
    0
    8 July 2014 14: 15
    Thanks to the author. Nice article and explains a lot. Yesterday I just couldn’t understand why suddenly, for no reason at all, they started pouring sewage on I. Strelkov on this site, while excitedly shouting about the drain of Slavyansk and the betrayal of I. Strelkov. My usual remark to the author of yesterday’s article that he is an armchair general was immediately met with negative comments and arguments of amateurism. This article quite thoroughly explains the essence of yesterday’s movements and individual commentators.
  71. +2
    8 July 2014 14: 38
    Gubarev is handsome, I wish I could send Ervandych to dig trenches.

    1. 0
      8 July 2014 16: 43
      Voluptuous pi*dobol. By definition, such scoundrels have a cl*tor under their tongue, and when they p*ss, they cum.
  72. +2
    8 July 2014 15: 17
    Finally, an up-to-date article about the real state of affairs in Ukraine. I am grateful to the author for his frank and truthful analysis of the situation.
    I hope this is not the last article on this topic.
  73. +1
    8 July 2014 16: 37
    In order to understand the essence of Kurginyan, just look at his behavior. Pure PR, or rather, does not exist. But they are good SERVANTS!
  74. -1
    8 July 2014 17: 06
    And somehow I didn’t like Tsarev right away, even when he was lathering himself in condoms. The muzzle of his face is like that of a Gwynplaine; sometimes looking at him, one gets the impression of painted lips and eyebrows. Moreover, the lips are not always painted, which is what caught the eye (sometimes he paints, sometimes he didn’t have time?). Slippery guy though. Who is he? The surname is also strange Tsarev the carpenter, no, Tsarev the centurion, no, Tsarev the servant, no, Tsarev is a JOKE! It looks like it. And they were usually not of our blood, somehow they were all strays.
    1. Milanalana
      0
      8 July 2014 17: 53
      Sorry, as they say, what are you rich in? And who else, there are only these. We would have done nothing if given the opportunity. And even if there had been a peaceful outcome, the elections showed everything. There would be others... but for now, here it is
  75. 0
    8 July 2014 17: 18
    By the evening of July 2, Strelkov realized this, although, judging by his speeches, the realization that he was being prepared for a bullock for slaughter appeared to him somewhat earlier. Plus, information was received that betrayal was brewing in Donetsk.
    From here the conclusion is that the war against the junta must be waged in a revolutionary way! all this “club” from among the petty bourgeoisie, the Donetsk oligarchy, the Kyiv junta and Kremlin politicians will always be able to come to an agreement among themselves for the sake of their financial and political benefit! Therefore, in the DPR and LPR a military coup is needed, the arrest of the entire corrupt elite and the real process of building people's republics!
  76. +1
    8 July 2014 17: 59
    Good Comrades! The article was written correctly and in a timely manner, which speaks of the author’s awareness. I will quote the words of Army General Valentin Varennikov, who testified that the President of Afghanistan Najibullah insisted on the liquidation of Ahmad Shah, but V.I. Varennikov himself opposed this: “I told him that this cannot be done . I proved to him that Ahmad Shah Massoud, unlike other leaders, is a completely different figure, he is a statesman. The people follow him, the people believe in him, he enjoys enormous authority in the north of the country, where Tajiks live. And he is not narrow-minded, not embittered, you can talk and negotiate with him normally.” As everyone remembers, Ahmad Shah Massoud was liquidated by US intelligence services, you know the further development of events in Afghanistan. The analogy of events is obvious. And therefore I appeal to the entourage of Igor Ivanovich Strelkov, his security service. Be vigilant!!! God bless you!
  77. 0
    8 July 2014 19: 37
    Motorola - planning to get married! LifeNews just broadcast it. Congratulations on finding your other half! Life, health and happiness to them! Children sea and peaceful skies!
  78. +2
    8 July 2014 20: 18
    Strelkov represents a conventional “war party” that does not want peace with the junta and demands war to the bitter end with the raising of the victorious flag over Kiev. There is simply no place for him in behind-the-scenes negotiations with the junta and Akhmetov


    I think everything is simpler. The Kremlin needs the federalization of Ukraine and this has been talked about from the very beginning, and the militias (Strelkov and Co.) want independence.

    Strelkov's retreat confused the Kremlin's cards.
  79. +2
    8 July 2014 20: 43
    Strelkov, with his retreat, mixed up all the cards not only for the food, but also for the depot and the pork. Simply - WELL DONE!
  80. Alexan
    +2
    8 July 2014 20: 44
    What I see! Have the forum readers suddenly opened their eyes? Until recently, any criticism was downvoted! Kurginyan showed a lot: that he is cattle, he was sent by the enemies of everything patriotic, Russia, through a front company, supplies defective weapons to the militias. And this is all on camera. Frames everything and everyone. There are scoundrels and traitors in all capitals: in the capital of the DPR, in Kyiv, in Moscow... what can we say about Brussels, Warsaw or Washington?
    1. 0
      8 July 2014 22: 12
      No one has ever closed them for me, only to have them open unexpectedly. Can't wait...
    2. 0
      8 July 2014 22: 20
      Russia, through a front company, supplies defective weapons to the militias. And this is all on camera.


      What are we talking about? If we’re talking about grenade launchers, then Strelkov himself said that they were from Ukrainian warehouses and were expired.
      1. 0
        8 July 2014 22: 35
        Quote: rotor
        Russia, through a front company, supplies defective weapons to the militias. And this is all on camera.


        What are we talking about? If we’re talking about grenade launchers, then Strelkov himself said that they were from Ukrainian warehouses and were expired.

        Would you like him to publicly say that the weapons are from Russia?
    3. +1
      8 July 2014 22: 35
      Quote: Alexan
      What I see! Have the forum readers suddenly opened their eyes? Until recently, any criticism was downvoted! Kurginyan showed a lot: that he is cattle, he was sent by the enemies of everything patriotic, Russia, through a front company, supplies defective weapons to the militias. And this is all on camera. Frames everything and everyone. There are scoundrels and traitors in all capitals: in the capital of the DPR, in Kyiv, in Moscow... what can we say about Brussels, Warsaw or Washington?

      War shows who is who. We still have many amazing discoveries and insights ahead.
  81. -1
    8 July 2014 21: 32
    Can anyone explain why the militias are committing suicide against the Ukrainian Army, which is 40 times more numerous? Putin asked them not to hold a referendum. What complaints could they have against him now? I don’t know about Strelkov, but after he so easily escaped from encirclement, I am tormented by vague doubts - is this all a performance like the Maidan?
    1. 0
      8 July 2014 22: 16
      And even if he agreed? Putin tried to come to an agreement with Parashenko, he is negotiating with Geyropa, with the Amers on disarmament, there are so many existing treaties. Gas was given to the Nazis for free, for almost six months, so to speak, for the development of production. I could list it further, but I don’t see the point in going on and on...
  82. +1
    8 July 2014 22: 18
    They are clean-spirited for show, like the Kurgenyans, but in their souls there is anger at Mother Russia - it’s already boiling, what if it’s not the main ethnic group, small grass.
  83. 0
    8 July 2014 22: 22
    In Novorosiya our help will soon be called “American help.” Those who are older will understand.
    I generally put the letter E on principle, otherwise all sorts of “philologists” who don’t pronounce either E or P and want to rid us of this, as well as of all our Russian.
  84. +2
    8 July 2014 22: 23
    Igor Ivanovich, please survive, Russia needs you! We are RUSSIAN Russians, we will be honored to have a leader like you!
  85. +2
    8 July 2014 22: 47
    Doesn’t Putin understand that with such assistants his rating will soon fall into the pit? After all, I seemed to realize after the swamp and filmed whoever needed it, but again everyone was at their posts.
    Although now the situation is much different, the war quickly clears the dregs, and in the international arena there are now enemies all around... the old way will no longer work.

    The article is very good, correct, although it’s disgusting to read.

    And who knows, Gubarev didn’t kick him in the horn after saying that he was a boor, the public would have applauded
    1. 0
      8 July 2014 22: 55
      You can’t beat old people, even motherfuckers! You have to cut off your tongue and bite off your fingers so that you can’t poop on the keyboard.
  86. +1
    8 July 2014 22: 50
    He is unlikely to make an intelligent statesman, and his ideological views, frankly speaking, are specific - but he will definitely make an intelligent Minister of Defense of Novorossiya.
  87. 0
    8 July 2014 22: 52
    When I was 20-30 years old, I was a fool and could not distinguish a good person from a bad one, but in disguise. But now I’m an old Chilean idiot and it’s not easy to fool me. Girkin is a man. Simple in appearance, truthful, not without cunning (necessary and not financial), and most importantly - honest. And this quality is not in fashion in our Kurkul times. So those who do not understand such a life and do not live according to the laws of honor, growl and spit saliva, not only in small things - but also in the main things.
  88. +1
    8 July 2014 23: 06
    “gentlemen, moderators,” where did yesterday’s article “ADVICES TO IGOR STRELKOV” go along with the comments? that you were “scared” of something? or are you like in that movie, what was it? IGOR IVANOVICH STRELKOV THIS IS WHAT RUSSIA NEEDS!!! This is exactly the leader that we all need so much and this is just the beginning
  89. 0
    8 July 2014 23: 59
    This is how I see Kurginyan
    1. 0
      9 July 2014 00: 27
      Whoa, right now, he’ll jump out... How I’m going to kick him out of the house with a broom later, I can’t imagine! You need to sprinkle some dust on it, but it’s gone, it’s all gone!
    2. 0
      9 July 2014 00: 43
      The power of the freeze frame. You have to think when you jump.
  90. 0
    9 July 2014 00: 47
    Wow, damn it! translation into English: Dys from business, yes!
  91. Yuri Bogdanov
    0
    10 July 2014 08: 30
    continuation - Any body of executive power taken out of the control of the owner, the people, represented by
    Parliament by the sovereign's eye (prosecutor's office), controlled by parliament,
    automatically transformed into org.prest.gruppir. Independent of parliament, the judiciary
    It will be pressed by the organized crime group or special services and will also become an organized crime group, and since in the Russian Federation it is not the parliament that forms the executive body, but the parliament, it turns into a congregation
    opposing organized groupings (parties) which are promoted in parliaments
    party lists not represented by the people, but will represent the business, judicial, executive power-which.
    carried out his activity, not according to the standards of civil ethics, but according to the norms of business and the norms of official.
    ethics, i.e. with deviations towards immorality from the general city. ethics standards.
    What needs to be done to increase socially active, morals, patriotism, incomes of citizens of the Russian Federation,
    reduce corruption in the country and increase the fear of citizen contributions. * I was surprised that the sex of the country, ourselves or the neighbors, went through the zones, and the thief was different from the rat. Collecting property and redistributing it into a personal interest. Rat-citizen, yavl. co-owned or disposed of a collective owner, redistributing him into a personal interest. Dog of a female genius (traitor) - a citizen. Intelligent production in production secrecy, sec., for service use and use in personal inter, to the detriment of society. A citizen scout who did not show a collective intelligent product, in the mode of secret, secret, for the service of using foreign countries and redistributing part of this product to the interest of his own state. Therefore, a thief is so different from a rat as a scout from a traitor. A thief and a scout (from the point of view of the opposite side) are criminal professions, a rat and a traitor (a female dog) are the highest form of moral decay of a person. Therefore, in the USSR, in China and friend countries of thieves and scouts were planted, and the rats and traitors (dogs of the female genus) were driven into the head by olives. One can treat a thief with respect, but as an adversary, he never acts as a rat (corruption), because the thief commits less immorality. an offense than rats (corruption). There is a proverb - a thief to the cop is not a comrade, and there is a continuation of the proverb - but a rat (corruption), a female feminine dog (corruption), provocate. invest not (app.) shameful, not invest in (common fund) ) the budget is the same as stealing (ratting) from the (common fund) budget, so citizens are committed on such crimes, US citizens and other developed countries are immediate. in law enforcement agencies and this is not considered to be squealing. You can amnesty a thief who does damage to 1 citizen, and anemize (a rat or a dog of a female genus) that harms thousands of citizens never, and do not let this nonsense increase your income .fix. (dogs. female. genus, rats and provocate.). There is a saying that if a citizen became moral. - (dogs. female. rat, rat, provocate.), then it’s always and you can’t fix it either how salaries are raised and history is developed. The Russian Federation confirms this axiom.
  92. Yuri Bogdanov
    0
    10 July 2014 08: 38
    end-Moscow (rat-city) and political leadership of the Russian Federation (female dogs) - a parasite sitting on export-import flows, artificially monopolizing this right. Moscow is the main source of undermining economic and anti-terrorism
    security of the Russian Federation. Moscow is the main promoter of population segregation by territorial
    featured, the main destroyer of the unity of the country's civil society and territorial
    integrity of the Russian Federation. To reduce the level of corruption, increase the income of citizens of the Russian Federation, increase the income of funds to pension funds, to the budgets of municipal governments and constituent entities of the Russian Federation, reduce and stop this destructive influence of Moscow. in Russia it is necessary to sharply reduce the rate of $ to 10 rubles, at the same time sharply reducing the mineral extraction tax and export duties on the export of mineral and biological resources of the Russian Federation at the same time, while reducing these volumes (i.e., a limited quota for exporting these resources). Reduce the rate from 3% from 3% to 5,5% Refinancing. Cancel VAT (which excludes VAT refunds on export of resources), replacing it with a value added tax, increasing salaries with a progressive tax (as in the USA) and endowing this patriotic right and duty with the president, prime minister, ministers, deputies, military , federal and municipal employees, Muscovites, sportsmen, artists and non-Russian nationals, the increased profits should be taxed 1,75% (as in the USA), volume. profits transferred to the parent company are taxed 38% (as in the USA), the amount of profit is directed to the payment of dividends, added to the annual income of shareholders and it will fall into the upper zone of progressive personal income tax = 30% -38% (as in the USA), at the same time, to allow enterprises of the real sector of the economy accelerated depreciation of equipment (as in the USA), profits allocated to Corporate.Pens.Funds and invested. corporats stocks are not taxed on profits, but are taxed with a 45% tax on the increase in the value of the shares when workers retire (as in the USA) long money appears, which encourages them to direct their profits to modernize production rather than pay dividends and buy foreign . Real estate, the purchase of yachts, the purchase of foreign football clubs, In the representative body. authorities will be elected. not only representative business, federal and municipal services, but also representatives of other sections of the population, living. to mode. obshchegrazhd.norm ethics. Regards ex. an officer of the most democratic structure of the USSR, by definition of modern democrats, i.e., by the number of public organizations-KSSUR, KKMR, etc. per 15 citizen of the USSR.
    And it’s a pity for Strelkov, a real officer, a screwed-up SVR Sov. Without. Russia, will hand him over.
  93. Yuri Bogdanov
    0
    10 July 2014 08: 43
    continuation-Bast body executes.power, removed from the control of the owner-people in the person
    Parliament by the sovereign's eye (prosecutor's office), controlled by parliament,
    automatically transformed into org.prest.gruppir. Independent of parliament, the judiciary
    It will be pressed by the organized crime group or special services and will also become an organized crime group, and since in the Russian Federation it is not the parliament that forms the executive body, but the parliament, it turns into a congregation
    opposing organized groupings (parties) which are promoted in parliaments
    party lists not represented by the people, but will represent the business, judicial, executive power-which.
    carried out his activity, not according to the standards of civil ethics, but according to the norms of business and the norms of official.
    ethics, i.e. with deviations towards immorality from the general city. ethics standards.
    What needs to be done to increase socially active, morals, patriotism, incomes of citizens of the Russian Federation,
    reduce corruption in the country and increase the fear of citizen contributions. * I was surprised that the sex of the country, ourselves or the neighbors, went through the zones, and the thief was different from the rat. Collecting property and redistributing it into a personal interest. Rat-citizen, yavl. co-owned or disposed of a collective owner, redistributing him into a personal interest. Dog of a female genius (traitor) - a citizen. Intelligent production in production secrecy, sec., for service use and use in personal inter, to the detriment of society. A citizen scout who did not show a collective intelligent product, in the mode of secret, secret, for the service of using foreign countries and redistributing part of this product to the interest of his own state. Therefore, a thief is so different from a rat as a scout from a traitor. A thief and a scout (from the point of view of the opposite side) are criminal professions, a rat and a traitor (a female dog) are the highest form of moral decay of a person. Therefore, in the USSR, in China and friend countries of thieves and scouts were planted, and the rats and traitors (dogs of the female genus) were driven into the head by olives. One can treat a thief with respect, but as an adversary, he never acts as a rat (corruption), because the thief commits less immorality. an offense than rats (corruption). There is a proverb - a thief to the cop is not a comrade, and there is a continuation of the proverb - but a rat (corruption), a female feminine dog (corruption), provocate. invest not (app.) shameful, not invest in (common fund) ) the budget is the same as stealing (ratting) from the (common fund) budget, so citizens are committed on such crimes, US citizens and other developed countries are immediate. in law enforcement agencies and this is not considered to be squealing. You can amnesty a thief who does damage to 1 citizen, and anemize (a rat or a dog of a female genus) that harms thousands of citizens never, and do not let this nonsense increase your income .fix. (dogs. female. genus, rats and provocate.). There is a saying that if a citizen became moral. - (dogs. female. rat, rat, provocate.), then it’s always and you can’t fix it either how salaries are raised and history is developed. The Russian Federation confirms this axiom.

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