BMP-M2 CZ: Czech version of the modernization of the BMP-1

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From the early seventies to the end of the eighties, Czechoslovakia built a Soviet-made BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles under license. In the early eighties, Czechoslovak enterprises began manufacturing the BMP-2 machines. To date, several hundred BMPs of two models have been preserved in the armed forces of the Czech Republic and Slovakia. This technique is already obsolete, both morally and physically, and therefore needs serious modernization. To improve the performance of this armored vehicle in recent years, several new projects have been created. At the recent exhibition of weapons and military equipment Eurosatory 2014, the Czech company Excalibur Army spol. s ro, which manufactures, repairs and upgrades weapons and military equipment, for the first time demonstrated a prototype infantry combat vehicle upgraded in accordance with the BMP-M2 CZ project.

BMP-M2 CZ: Czech version of the modernization of the BMP-1


According to official information, the car shown at the exhibition was made on the basis of the BMP BVP-1 (the licensed version of the BMP-1). Nevertheless, the similarity of the structures will probably allow the various modifications of both the BMP-2 and the BMP-1 to the BMP-M2 CZ state. Due to this, the proposed project may be of interest to a large number of states whose armies use Soviet or licensed infantry fighting vehicles. The aim of the project was to improve the performance of the machine by increasing the level of protection and increasing firepower. In addition, the installation of new electronic systems.

The BMP-M2 CZ project provides for the modernization of the base armored vehicle, so when it was created, the designers of Excalibur Army tried to improve the design without major changes. However, to improve performance and capabilities, they were forced to make adjustments to the design of the armored hull. The main changes in the hull design are related to the reconfiguration of the troop compartment in its aft part. For greater convenience of placing paratroopers, the roof of the troop compartment was raised to 500 mm. Because of this, the upper front part of the hull was extended, which now almost reaches the shoulder strap of the tower. Improvement of anti-bullet protection is carried out with the help of additional booking modules installed on top of the case. To protect against the explosion of mines on the bottom, it is proposed to install an additional booking module.



The applied hull changes and optional booking modules provide protection that is compliant with the 3 standard of the NATO STANAG 4569 standard. This means that the body of the BMP-M2 CZ is protected from shelling using 7,62x51 mm NATO armor-piercing cartridges. The level of mine protection below: the machine must withstand the undermining of 6 kg of TNT under the tracks (level 2a) or 300 g under the bottom (level 1).

The layout of the internal volume of the body as a whole has remained the same. In the front right side of the hull, the engine compartment remains, to the left of which are the jobs of the driver and commander of the vehicle. Behind them there is a large troop compartment with six seats for paratroopers and a workplace for the gunner. It is proposed to attach all the seats of the crew and the assault force to the sides in order to reduce the impact of the blast wave when the mines are exploded under a track or bottom.

The driver can use his own hatch in the roof of the car to get into the car. He should observe the situation with the help of several viewing instruments. The commander also has his own hatch with viewing devices. The troop compartment and the command compartment are not separated, so that if necessary, the driver and the commander can leave the car through the stern hatches of the landing force. The entrance to the troop compartment is proposed to be carried out through two stern hatches with ramps. Instead of swinging doors with fuel tanks, as on basic machines, the BMP-M2 CZ project involves the use of lowered ramps installed in openings of increased height.

The BMP-M2 CZ is a deep modernization of the BMP-1. Perhaps for this reason, the engineers at Excalibur Army decided to equip it weaponssimilar to that used on the BMP-2 armored vehicle. The BMP-M2 CZ carries a turret with an 30-mm automatic cannon and a twin machine gun of the 7,62 caliber. In addition, there is a launcher for anti-tank guided missiles. All the weapons of the upgraded BMP are mounted on a remote-controlled uninhabited tower. Tower systems provide circular guidance in the horizontal plane. Vertical guidance ranges from -10 ° to + 60 °.

The tower is equipped with a camera and a thermal imager for searching for targets and pointing weapons. It is argued that such opto-electronic systems allow the use of both barreled and rocket weapons. In addition, they provide surveillance of the battlefield.

The first reports of the BMP-M2 CZ project appeared in 2012 year, but the main characteristics of the upgraded infantry fighting vehicle have not yet been announced. Probably, after the upgrade, the machine was noticeably heavier, which affected its mobility. At the same time, it was possible to slightly increase the level of protection, the firepower almost did not change (in comparison with the BMP-2 and its modifications), but the working conditions of the crew should improve.

Excalibur Army claims that the BMP-M2 CZ project is a modular design. During the modernization, the infantry fighting vehicle of the old model is updated to the state of BMP-M2 CZ, and at the request of the customer can receive a set of additional equipment. Thus, it is possible to use additional booking modules corresponding to 4 to STANAG 4569 (armor-piercing bullets of the 14,5x114 mm cartridge), as well as to mine protection 3a + (450 g of trotyl under the bottom). Installation of anti-cumulative grids is also provided.

The optional equipment also includes a video surveillance system, modern communication equipment, including for interaction with infantry, updated aiming devices, etc.

The BMP-M2 CZ project, although it is of some interest, still risks becoming another upgrade option for obsolete armored vehicles that did not interest potential customers. It is worth noting that, in theory, the modernization projects of the BMP-1 and BMP-2 armored vehicles are quite a profitable undertaking, since a total of several tens of thousands of units of such equipment were built. In this regard, many organizations are trying to create their own options for updating and improving old equipment, but not all such projects find their customers. Time will show how successful the BMP-M2 CZ project will be. The first prototype of this car was shown a few weeks ago and now potential customers are likely to decide whether they need BMPs, upgraded in this way.










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  1. +5
    8 July 2014 09: 00
    "Czechoslovakia was licensed to build Soviet-designed BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles."

    Always enraged by the criminal desire of the Kremlin elders to bend in front of the "brothers" in the social camp. The result is our own lard for our musals.
    1. Docklishin
      +11
      8 July 2014 09: 13
      And I liked it. Cheap and cheerful. In particular, I liked the control system. The steering wheel resembles a joystick from a game console. In general, it should probably be convenient.
      1. +9
        8 July 2014 10: 09
        And I liked it. Cheap and cheerful. I especially liked the control system
        Well, at the expense of cheapness I do not know), but the interior of the Czech behi (landing compartment) compared to ours like Mercedes and Moskvich 2141)))
        But seriously - as I understand it, she has become higher than the original source ?! comfort in exchange for safety, mmmm European!
        1. +1
          8 July 2014 14: 54
          Quote: lukke
          k) in comparison with ours like Mercedes and Moscow


          in the USSR, and then in Russia, modernization of the BMP 1,2 was also underway.

          BMP 1M 2M, modernization mainly affected the improvement of protection
          BMP ...
          .

          Along with steel screens (additional reservation), lattice screens and reactive armor developed by NII Stali are installed ....
          after this modernization, buoyancy was lost ...
          but there was protection from monoblock, RPGs ... click ...
        2. +3
          8 July 2014 15: 58
          Quote: lukke
          Well, at the expense of cheapness I do not know), but the interior of the Czech behi (landing compartment) compared to ours like Mercedes and Moskvich 2141)))
          But seriously - as I understand it, she has become higher than the original source ?!

          Not enough information.
          Where did the fuel tank go? Or this BMP is an electric car.
          What are the changes in the suspension, which engine? After all, bulwarks have weight.
          Is it possible to fire an infantryman out of the car (the presence of loopholes) or just ride?
          Any sensible model of BTT is a very balanced thing.
          It is extremely difficult to improve armor protection and at the same time maintain high mobility without developing a new model.
          But to make it neat and beautiful in appearance is much easier.
          1. +3
            8 July 2014 19: 53
            Quote: Alekseev
            Where did the fuel tank go?
            , so not only that, they also eliminate the aft doors-tanks ... in the photo, the guys are smiling through one common hatch ... So, most likely, there is no fuel on this "pepelatse" ...
            1. +1
              8 July 2014 20: 30
              why not provided? Gravitsap does not take up much space ...
            2. 0
              9 July 2014 13: 54
              I realized that the computer model and photos from the exhibition with Czechs are different BMP
          2. 0
            9 July 2014 13: 52
            It is seen the same:
            - fighters sit with their backs to the sides
            - external armored screens are one-piece ...
            Conclusion - side fire is not provided
        3. 0
          8 July 2014 19: 41
          Quote: lukke
          But seriously - as I understand it, she has become higher than the original source ?! comfort in exchange for safety, mmmm European!

          And I have another question, but is this floating?
          1. 573385
            -2
            8 July 2014 21: 53
            And what, before she swam well?! Second place after the ax!
            1. +1
              9 July 2014 10: 03
              Quote: 573385
              And what, before she swam well?! Second place after the ax!

              I don’t know about you, but I even managed to resemble them on the ocean ...
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      3. Ghjynjyjoiiyr
        -4
        8 July 2014 11: 47
        The BMP-M2 CZ project, although of some interest, is still at risk of becoming another version of the modernization of obsolete armored vehicles that did not interest potential customers.

        And it will not be interesting, because the game is not worth the candle: An RPG projectile burns through any harrow, be it a modernized or an old machine ....
        On conceptual new developments, lousy Czechs have no lag.
        1. 0
          8 July 2014 14: 53
          Rather not "tyamy" money.
        2. +5
          8 July 2014 17: 52
          Quote: Ghjynjyjoiiyr
          On conceptual new developments, lousy Czechs have no lag.

          Are you sure the Czechs are "crummy"? Before insulting someone, look in the mirror The fact that you have no idea about the industrial potential of the Czech Republic can be seen right away. The high level of technology, access to quality materials, highly qualified engineering and technical personnel, the existing weapons school and the relatively stable economic situation in the country ensured a quick entry of the Czech weapons production into the world market, and in terms of design and quality of execution ensured its competitiveness.
        3. +7
          8 July 2014 20: 18
          Quote: Ghjynjyjoiiyr
          On conceptually new developments in lousy Czechs

          "Lousy" ????
          All types of industry (industry) of the Czech Republic: metallurgy, engineering, automotive, glass, military, --
          = "Czech zbroevka" (Uherski Brod)
          = "Ramet" (city of Kunovice), "Era" (city of Pardubice), military-technical institute "Tesla", "TTC Tesla Telecommunications" (both - Prague), "LOM Prague"
          = "Seller and Bellot" (Vlashim)
          = "Poldiocel" (town of Kladno) and "Nova Gut" (town of Ostrava), JSC "PSP Bohemia" n, Military repair plants of the Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic "VOP 025" (town of Novy Jicin) and "VOP 026" ( Sternberk)
          = "Airways" (Odolena), "Moravan Airplanes" (Otrokovits), "Ercraft Industries" (Uherske Hradiste).
          I'm already talking about the joint venture (Marconi, Tereks) and I will not speak ..

          and WW2?


          The super heavy weapons that fired on Leningrad and Sevastopol were produced in the Czech Republic and France.
          1. 0
            10 July 2014 01: 14
            Cool, but probably no one knows about it except you, all the super-heavy artillery in Germany was produced by Krupp, including Dora, Karl, Moser.
            Those tanks that you bring were coffins on tracks, if you look closely at the hull, you will see the antediluvian riveting technology that Pz.Kpfw.35 (t) and Pz.Kpfw.38 (t) had, taking into account the wretchedness of the steel manufacturing technology itself , which was even inferior in level to the Japanese of the 40s, you can describe these tanks with the words of Carius: "trash". The same applies to the French tanks R35 ...
      4. Arxon
        0
        8 July 2014 14: 24
        do you think cheap
        1. +2
          8 July 2014 23: 54
          Quote: ARXON
          do you think cheap

          and you compare the cost of the Skoda Octavia Mk3 (well or previous) on the platform of the MQB platform of the Volkswagen group and its classmates Audi A3 Mk3 (third generation) SEAT Leon Mk3 (third generation) Volkswagen Golf Mk7 (7 generation).
          In any country..
          You will be surprised
    2. +7
      8 July 2014 12: 19
      Quote: Vadivak
      the desire of the Kremlin elders to bow down before the "brothers"

      In fact, licenses were sold to the "brothers" for equipment of the previous generation. In addition, with rare exceptions, the industry did not cope well with the supply of new equipment for the USSR Armed Forces, and it would certainly not have been possible to supply the allies with equipment. But now, just "the Kremlin youths" are driving the latest technology and licenses for its production for export to any incomprehensible Papuans, and everyone likes everything. We are even proud of the success of military exports.
    3. +1
      8 July 2014 19: 41
      Quote: Vadivak
      The result of our fat is our waste.
      Czech infantry fighting vehicles, tanks and special vehicles at their base were very worthy vehicles and were very much appreciated in the SA ...
  2. +7
    8 July 2014 09: 01
    I wonder if the BMP retained the ability to swim. And it seems the amount of landing has decreased by 2 people. In general, the Czechs are great. They have long taken up the modernization of weapons of the times of the USSR and this is not bad for them.
    1. +7
      8 July 2014 09: 08
      Modern infantry fighting vehicles fight mainly in cities ... Is there a need to make them floating? They will take a meter of ford.
      1. +6
        8 July 2014 09: 20
        Quote: Tankist_1980
        Modern infantry fighting vehicles fight mainly in cities ... Is there a need to make them floating? They will take a meter of ford.


        Here, by and large, we can agree even without taking into account actions in the cities, because the BMP must act together with tanks, and not independently, and the main tanks, as you know, do not have buoyancy. Another thing is that they are often used for other purposes ...
        1. 0
          8 July 2014 14: 32
          Quote: Vadivak
          Here, by and large, you can agree even without taking into account actions in the cities, because the BMP must act together with the tanks, and


          therefore, the armor should be to BMP-T, tank ... and not bulletproof as on BMP 1,2 ...
          Chinese BMP ZBD04 (a re-ordered copy of the BMP 3 (((((

          and the newest BMP-T Chinese BMP-T designation: ZBD-08 / WZ502G, this is already a copy of the Soviet "object 299" on the T-80 tank chassis (((although everywhere they write that this is a modernization of the ZBD04 BMP, but this is clearly not so ...

          weapons BMP-3 clone - 100 mm cannon, paired 30-mm cannon and 7,62-mm paired, has a gunner’s thermal imaging sight ... there is a variant of the self-propelled guns clone of the self-propelled guns ,, Vienna ,, ...

          1. 0
            8 July 2014 15: 09
            With what fright did you get the idea that it is "a copy of the Soviet "object 299" on the T-80 tank chassis"???
            http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4944.html
            China is starting to introduce an upgraded Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV), designated WZ502G. Compared to its predecessor, the original WZ502 or ZBD04, it's armor has been increased. The front of the hull and the turret can withstand hits from 30 mm rounds, the sides 14.5 mm rounds and the rear 7.62mm. It has the option of bolting on additional armor as needed.
            The amphibious capability has been reduced with the removal of the rear water jets.

            Crew-3
            Troops - 7
            Weight (kg) - 21500
            Power-to-weight ratio (hp / t) - 25.2
            Length (mm) - 7520
            Width (mm) - 3300
            Height (mm) - 2530
            Max road speed (km / h) - 70
            Max. water speed (km/h) - 13
            Max road range (km) - 400
            Gradient (%) - 60
            Side slope (%) - 30
            Trench (mm) - 2500
            Vertical obstacle (mm) - 750
            Ground clearance (mm) - 450
            Engine power output (hp) - 550

            And where did you see tank armor here? Protection is standard for a machine of this mass - from a 30-mm forehead and a 14.5-mm side.
            Although, of course, in fact this is the very "Kurganets-25" (not with a remote module, it is true, but BM is a replaceable thing), which the Russian army so logically desired to have, and which, alas, Russia is creating, alas, 10 years later China.
            1. +1
              8 July 2014 16: 41
              Quote: Realist1989
              What fright did you get that this is a "copy of the Soviet" object 299 "on a T-80 tank chassis" ???


              without any fright: this topic has already been discussed at ....

              Firstly, the Chinese declared TTX BMP ZBD-08 / WZ502G-a lie (with an understatement, at least% 50 is not a chance !!!
              the link you provided, from the Army Guide website ((((a good site, I often read it myself)) ... but once again I repeat the Chinese underestimate the performance characteristics of their armored vehicles ...

              secondly, in the declared performance characteristics, the BMP lost buoyancy ...

              thirdly, I already posted on this topic:
              tracked chassis tank (size of road wheels)))) but not from the BMP-3, but from the object - "Object 299" USSR 1987 ...
              find 10 differences from the Chinese BMP, narrow format, copied 100%, probably they bought technical documentation.


              The prototype of this BMP ZBD-08 / WZ502G appeared around 2005-6 ... more precisely, do not install (((secrecy in Chinese)))
            2. 0
              8 July 2014 16: 53
              Quote: Realist1989
              What fright did you get that this is a "copy of the Soviet" object 299 "on a T-80 tank chassis" ???


              without any fright: this topic has already been discussed at ....

              Firstly, the Chinese declared TTX BMP ZBD-08 / WZ502G-a lie (with an understatement, at least% 50 is not a chance !!!
              the link you provided, from the Army Guide website ((((a good site, I often read it myself)) ... but once again I repeat the Chinese underestimate the performance characteristics of their armored vehicles ...

              secondly, in the declared performance characteristics, the BMP lost buoyancy ...

              thirdly, I already posted on this topic:
              tracked chassis tank (size of road wheels)))) but not from the BMP-3, but from the object - "Object 299" USSR 1987 ...
              find 10 differences from the Chinese BMP, narrow-format, copied 100%, probably those .. documentation bought



              The prototype of this BMP ZBD-08 / WZ502G appeared around 2005-6 ... more precisely, do not install (((secrecy in Chinese)))
              1. 0
                8 July 2014 21: 11
                picture "object 299" blown away request
                Quote: svp67
                So, most likely fuel is not provided for this "pepelatse" ...


                TB is also provided, but not like ours, on BMP 1,2 ... the soldiers were forced to sit on the canister with salary, and even from the aft doors the tanks made it impossible to get out at all .... who invented it * ****

                BMP-M2 CZ BMP hull height: in the fighting compartment area increased by 500 mm, above the driver and commander of the vehicle increased by 300 mm ....

                fuel tanks and batteries are installed in higher fenced niches !!! that’s the whole idea --- simple and tasteful !!! and don’t have to ride a canister ...
                1. 0
                  9 July 2014 09: 59
                  Quote: cosmos111
                  fuel tanks and batteries are installed in higher fenced niches !!! that’s the whole idea --- simple and tasteful !!! and don’t have to ride a canister ...

                  BMPs 1 and 2 HAVE NO and HAD NO SUPERGUSENIC niches, so now they have appeared and they decided to move the fuel tanks and batteries there, I do not consider it "simple and tasteful", they placed them in one of the most striking places, but how fuel tanks tend to explode, not for me to tell you, so not a very good solution ...
              2. 0
                8 July 2014 21: 28
                At first, intentionally underestimating the parameters of their equipment, especially for a country seriously aspiring to gaining positions in the arms market - well, very huh, it sounds doubtful. What's the point? And where is such ardent confidence that the Chinese suddenly decided - "And we will make a car on the basis of a tank, and we will tell everyone that it is not so, that's tricky, that's tricky!" laughing The dimensions of the machine are quite pulling for the declared mass - 21,5 with the prospect of increasing to 25 tons. For a machine of this mass, the protection parameters are quite consistent.
                Secondly, loss of buoyancy is not at all proof that it is made on the basis of the tank. BMP-3, after exceeding a certain mass threshold (for example, when installing a DZ set) also lost buoyancy, there is nothing surprising in this. In the English text that I cited above, it is quite understandably written - buoyancy is lost due to the dismantling of water-jet propulsors, it is quite logical - they were removed, they gained a lot of weight and slightly strengthened the defense.
                Thirdly, the differences from the "Object 299" are striking - the rollers are much smaller, the tracks are not tank tracks at all. I have never noticed Chinese tanks with such tracks and rollers.
                Verdict: no need to dramatize and look for a black cat in a dark room, which is not there - everything is very simple, in the 90s the Chinese analyzed the Russian BMP-3, truncated its minuses (layout), pluses (combat module and chassis), and made themselves classic car using the advantages of BMP-3. Fso. Why is it that only Russian developers initially decided to scratch the left ear with the right heel, and not do it like the Chinese - another question. Perhaps the Chinese were just lucky - before they started thinking about their future BMP, the Russians showed what NOT to do, and a couple of good ideas with a fighting compartment were thrown. Voila. The Chinese have a promising Russian machine 10 years before the Russians. It's a shame, but a fact.
                1. 0
                  8 July 2014 22: 21
                  Few people know, but in the first half of the 2000s we developed an infantry fighting vehicle according to the Kurganets design and development project (which was made on the basis of Object 695), but then for a long time nothing was heard about it, but in 2010 information appeared about the development of Kurganets 25, which, apparently, is being done on the basis of the Kurganets ROC. So if our Ministry of Defense then became interested in this project and allocated additional funds for its implementation, then now we would have a good BMP comparable to the Chinese ZBD-04 / Type-97 and even ZBD-08 / WZ502G.
                2. -1
                  8 July 2014 22: 39
                  Quote: Realist1989
                  positions in the arms market - well, very hmm, it sounds doubtful. What's the point?

                  1.the point is that the BMP ZBD-08 / WZ502G, there are not even clear photos ... where does such confidence in the authenticity of the performance characteristics given on my reputable Army Guide website ???? and even more so, BMP ZBD-08 / WZ502G, not when it was not offered for export !!!!

                  2.
                  Quote: Realist1989
                  the differences from the "Object 299" are striking - the rollers are noticeably smaller, the tracks are not at all tank

                  Well, I brought you a photo a little higher, what kind of object this is, it’s not clear, but on the BMP ZBD-08 / WZ502G chassis, a whole family has already been built on this tracked chassis ....
                  3.Namely, the rollers and tracks are a copy, of course not 100%, with Chinese characteristics, but compare the copy of the Soviet "Object 299" more closely ...

                  Quote: Realist1989
                  Verdict: no need to dramatize

                  the verdict is cool drinks but still BMP ZBD-08 / WZ502G, and a variety of armored vehicles on this chassis is a clone of the Soviet "object 299" -JA, redesigned and built, at the Chinese technological level ...
          2. -1
            9 July 2014 17: 38
            Do not you see the narrow tracks on the Chinese, 6 light rollers like the BMP-3? What’s there tank? Weight 20 tons maximum. Nothing to do with ob299
    2. +1
      8 July 2014 12: 11
      I note that everything has been carefully done, so that our politicians from the military-industrial complex would make their products meticulously and efficiently, and sometimes you sometimes look at new samples and shed tears ..
  3. +1
    8 July 2014 09: 12
    But the idea is good. There is more armor, the crew is more comfortable, and if there is also air conditioning, then in general a fairy tale. Interestingly engine confused?
    Such a BMP would not hurt us
    1. +8
      8 July 2014 09: 31
      Quote: Tankist_1980
      Such a BMP would not hurt us

      I want a miracle for moderate money. smile
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  4. 0
    8 July 2014 09: 15
    And where are the loopholes for the crew?
  5. +5
    8 July 2014 09: 37
    You know me so vnutryak really liked tidy so
    1. +3
      8 July 2014 09: 53
      Quote: vomag
      You know me so vnutryak really liked tidy so


      It all begins from such excesses, how to jump out of such a comfortable car, a soldier accustomed to the most varied diet, including excesses in the form of pies and desserts, and even in the mud, and even quick-drying berets with a quick lacing system, and anatomical insoles and vents to expel excess moisture, sweat and heat? smile
      1. +3
        8 July 2014 10: 16
        And this plastic "inner" will burn with a bang and stick to the body no worse than napalm
        1. +1
          8 July 2014 12: 15
          And here it’s just not a fact, for example, non-combustible SYNTHETICS has been used for a long time in mattress uniforms, especially for employees on technology, and non-combustible materials for decoration are now full, so the interior will certainly burn but not immediately and the crew will be able to remove it alive.
        2. 52
          0
          8 July 2014 16: 52
          Even perhaps better and smelly!
      2. +1
        8 July 2014 15: 35
        Quote: vomag
        You know me so vnutryak really liked tidy so


        this is a STANDARD, comfortable mine action seats, aisle, convenient ramp, for quickly leaving the BMP ....
        the only thing that is holding back the modernization of the BMP 1,2, in terms of increasing security, and this is the "weak" chassis of the IFV 1,2 ... with a low payload ....

        when upgrading the BMP 1,2 ... it is necessary to take into account the Czech experience in modernizing the BMP 1,2.BMP-M2 CZ, in terms of convenience, for the crew, the driver ... but + should be added to this ...

        spaced reservation of the BMP bottom, and the GM-352M1E crawler chassis, with air suspension ... own weight of the main gun 25 tons + load capacity 11 tons !!!!

        the mass of infantry fighting vehicles is 14 tons, when using the hydraulic suspension, from GM-352M1E, it will allow, with modernization .... additional ... book BMP 1,2.on 12 tons !!!

        and with the use of compact ceramic armor, modern DZ, trellised screens ... it will already be a modern infantry fighting vehicle, which will serve the troops for at least another 10-15 years !!!! click
  6. 0
    8 July 2014 09: 37
    Well, I don’t know why it is needed so completely it’s not suitable for the city against RPGs.
    1. +3
      8 July 2014 10: 20
      And it serves to deliver and support fighters ...
      Do not walk on foot. And she will protect from the rifle.
    2. Praetorian
      +1
      8 July 2014 11: 55
      And ours will stand directly against RPGs and in the city? This is a technique for transporting fighters, and not for combing city streets.
      1. +1
        8 July 2014 12: 18
        That's it ! The PC holds well, and the forehead is likely to withstand 14.5, and not every tank saves from RPGs ..
  7. Vik.Tor
    0
    8 July 2014 10: 10
    Much depends on the price-quality parameter, and so wow, conveniently, the armor was increased and not only.
  8. +1
    8 July 2014 10: 12
    RPG is not every tank withstand! And what can we say about bmp ...!
  9. +4
    8 July 2014 10: 15
    In addition to the article, I mean the Samson Mk II tower of the Israeli company Rafael, with a 30 mm caliber gun and Spyke anti-tank missiles.
  10. +4
    8 July 2014 10: 38
    The article can be supplemented by:

    Last year, as a possible alternative to obsolete military equipment, a new tracked combat vehicle was considered, codenamed “Jackal” (BVP-M2 SRCZ), developed jointly by the Czech company “Escalibur Army” and Slovak companies “VOP Trencin” ( VOP Trenin) and EVPU. The Jackal presentation was held in 2013 at the IDET exhibition in Brno. Non-professionals liked the machine for its modern appearance, however, local military analysts even then pointed out that, in fact, the Jackal was nothing more than a profound modernization of the obsolete BMP-2.

    The tests showed that the military did not particularly like the car. “My Slovak colleagues said that during the tests there were problems that need to be addressed,” admitted Bohuslav Dvořák, Czech Deputy Minister of Defense for Arms.

    According to the Czech newspaper Lidove Noviny, army experts were dissatisfied with the Jackal’s armament and its weak mine protection. In addition, in Slovakia they are seriously thinking about completely abandoning tracked combat vehicles and switching to wheeled vehicles. If such a decision is made in Bratislava, the jackal’s chances of being armed with the Slovak army are practically nil.

    As for the Czech military, they initially intended to purchase about 100 new vehicles to replace their obsolete infantry fighting vehicles. The budget of the Ministry of Defense for this purpose included about 6,5 billion crowns (over 300 million dollars). However, in recent months, the enthusiasm for the purchase of Jackals on the banks of the Vltava has subsided somewhat and the Czech Defense Ministry has begun to look closely at the Swedish CV-90 infantry fighting vehicle, which could be collected under license from Czech enterprises. The required number of these infantry fighting vehicles will cost taxpayers one and a half times more expensive, however, and they will serve much longer than the Jackals, which are almost impossible to upgrade.
    http://vpk-news.ru/news/20922



    1. 0
      23 January 2023 01: 21
      The first video shows a really deep modernization of the BMP-1. And personally I like this option. This is much better than our modernization of the BMP-1 - BMP-1 AM "Basurmanin".
      And on the second video - it's more like an attempt to increase the protection of the BMP-2. Very similar to what we did.

      In general, all these options for upgrading obsolete armored vehicles are suitable for those countries that are not able to produce or buy new, modern armored vehicles themselves.
  11. +3
    8 July 2014 10: 45
    A very good option for upgrading a well-deserved car, which is called cheap and cheerful, modern. We would have to think the same about a similar option for ourselves and for sale.
  12. +6
    8 July 2014 11: 39
    Our poor BMPs, who just didn’t modernize them:
    Poles:


    BWP-40-version of the modernization of Polish BMP-1 by installing 40 mm Bofors in a double tower

    Iraqis:
    BMP-1 "Saddam"

    Belarusian modernization of Azerbaijani BMP-1 to the level of Cobra-S combat vehicle

    1. +1
      8 July 2014 11: 50
      Indian modernization BMP-2-BMP-2 TUSK

      Modernization of the BMP-1 by Syrian Basmachi

      Afghan creative




      1. +3
        8 July 2014 11: 54
        Czech version of the BMP-1 with openly mounted 30-mm anti-aircraft guns M-53 from the Czechoslovak ZSU M-53/59 "Prague"

        Finnish BMP-1 version with LAV-25 turret

        BMP-based Indian self-propelled gun with an installed 105-mm English L-118 artillery gun manufactured in India under license

        Greek modernization received from Germany BMP-1 former NNA GDR

        South African modernization of the "high-tech" BMP-1 (presumably for Algeria)

        Abkhazian modernization of the BMP-1 with home-made PU for the C-5
        1. +1
          8 July 2014 11: 58
          Another Abkhazian modernization of the BMP-1

          Armenian and Karabakh modernization BMP-1



          Egyptian Modernization BMP-1

          NFV-1. Sino-American development, BMP and gun Bushmaster 25 mm
          1. +2
            8 July 2014 12: 11

            Slovak version of the modernization of the BMP-1

            Czech 120-mm self-propelled mortar PRAM-S based on the BMP-1

            Ukrainian BMP-1U with the Shkval combat module

            MLI-84-Romanian version of the BMP-1 with a large-caliber DShK mounted above the top hatch of the landing squad

            its modern modernization with the 25-mm "Bushmaster" and the Israeli anti-tank missile system "Spike"

            Indian wheeled version of the BMP-2 based on the Tata truck
            1. +2
              8 July 2014 12: 20

              our upgrade option BMP-2

              BMP-2M, another version of our BMP-2 upgrade for Algeria with the Berezhok turret from the BTR-90 (the contract was signed in 2005, 300 units were modernized)

              another option is Afghan with the installation of an 82-mm automatic mortar 2B9 "Vasilek"

              A little more Abkhazian creativity

              Iranian version of BMP-1-Boraq, with DShK and rollers from M-113

              another Czech version of the OT-90: BMP-1 with a tower from the Czech-Polish armored personnel carrier OT-64

              Indian modernization BMP-2-BMP Abhay (Skt: अभय) is a slightly larger BMP-2 equipped with the new Greaves Cotton TD2V8 engine in 550l.s. and a completely new turret in which the 40-mm Bofors gun is installed (BC 210 shots). Additional weapons are also wow - 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, PU ATGM Competition or Milan (BK - two missiles) and a PKT machine gun.
      2. +2
        8 July 2014 12: 12
        Quote: Novel 1977
        Our poor BMPs, who just didn’t modernize them: Poles:


        That's what Roman wrote about this at the very beginning. For what it was asked to give free !!!!! licensed for such a truly revolutionary invention
        1. +1
          8 July 2014 12: 44
          Quote: Vadivak
          Quote: Novel 1977
          Our poor BMPs, who just didn’t modernize them: Poles:

          That's what Roman wrote about this at the very beginning. For what it was asked to give free !!!!! licensed for such a truly revolutionary invention

          Vadim, the USSR supplied its equipment around the world: the same BMP-1 for the years of production of 1966 — 1988. only in the USSR more than 20000 units were produced.

          In addition, the BMP-1 was produced under license in Czechoslovakia (BVP-1, about 500 vehicles annually), Poland (BWP-1, 1680 vehicles), Romania (MLI-84, 177 vehicles) and India. The Czechs made the BMP-1 not only for their army, but also for the Poles and the NNA of the GDR. Copies are made in China under the designation "Type 86" or WZ-501 (original received from Egypt, 2100 cars). That is, the only one who established the "pirate" production of copies of the BMP-1 is China.
          http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/bron/bbm/data/ic_nomenrussiabronbbm/
          10 /

          The exact number of BMP-2 issued is unknown to me. According to the data contained in the documents of the Treaty on the Limitation of Armed Forces and Arms in Europe, in the European part of the USSR in 1990, there were 5996 BMP-2.

          BMP-2s were produced under license in Czechoslovakia (BVP-2, produced in 1984-1987 at the Podpolyanske stroyarne plant in Detva. 344 copies were produced.) and India ("Sarath", since 1987, about 1200 vehicles, according to others data is about 900). In the late 80s, the Poles received 52 BMP-2s from Czechoslovakia, but they did not buy a license for their production, citing a lack of funds, rightly relying on the BMP-1, which was produced under license, hoping to upgrade it later. The supplied BMP-2s were sold to Angola in 1994-1995. According to some reports, licensed production is also underway in Iran (Boragh). An agreement with Iran of 1991 provided for the transfer of a license and assistance in organizing the production of 1500 vehicles), according to other sources - approx. 500 in 1993-2005, incl. OK. 120 in 1993-97 + 3 BMP-2s in 1998. In 2003, about 300 more vehicles were ordered, although they were not delivered. Iran currently has about 400 BMP-2s and an unknown number of Boraghs.
          The Military Balance 2013. - P. 378.

          Well, plus independent modernization of the delivered BMPs on their own.
          1. +1
            8 July 2014 12: 49
            Quote: Novel 1977
            USSR supplied its equipment around the world

            I know that. It's an insult to the idea. The same story as with Kalash. They do everything to whom it is not laziness, and the country has nothing to do with it.
        2. +4
          8 July 2014 19: 06
          A license to produce weapons is far from cheese in a well-known device, therefore no one has ever handed out such licenses to anyone for free; for every weapon produced under a license, the country received a pretty penny (far from thirty Serebrennikov).
          And time goes on: once a revolutionary invention has lost its advantages. An infantry fighting vehicle was conceived as an infantry support vehicle in battle (in addition to delivering infantry to the battlefield), but with modern saturation of the enemy with various means of destroying lightly armored vehicles, the successful use of their weapons by the BMP crew is unlikely (at least because the BMP is much easier to detect than, for example, the position heavy machine gun, against which the much-praised anti-cumulative gratings, etc. will not help against the fire, while the reinforcement of the reservation does not pull the original chassis. same when fighting in urban areas - not all cities are located in the mountains or deserts).
          BMP-1 class vehicles, etc. are outdated (just like a class), to create something new on their basis is senseless. It will only get worse. The current trend is separate infantry transportation vehicles with armored protection like tanks and support vehicles with similar protection. Attempts to combine these tasks lead to a heaviness of the hull or to a frivolous number of moved paratroopers. And all the modernizations of the previous BMPs come down to the costly placement on the easily destroyed chassis of serious weapons of little help in a real battle ...
  13. +1
    8 July 2014 11: 49
    The modernized infantry fighting vehicle BMP-1 is designed to transport motorized rifle units to the battlefield, to perform fire support tasks during the battle, to combat manpower and armored enemy targets, as well as low-flying air targets.

    The modernization of the BMP-1 provides for the installation of combat units MB2-03 or MB2-05.

    The installation of combat units of the MB type on an infantry fighting vehicle provides: obtaining characteristics similar to the fighting compartment of the BMP-2, as well as:

    increase in the useful volume of the BMP-1 due to the smaller dimensions of the combat units such as MB;
    lack of gas contamination of the internal volume due to the installation of a remote weapons unit;
    installation of an improved sighting system;
    increase in angles of fire in automatic mode:
    horizontal angle - from 330 ° to 360 °;
    elevation angle - from 35 ° to 70 °;
    declination angle - from -4 ° to -5 °;
    1. 0
      8 July 2014 22: 29
      I apologize for the question; what kind of modernization of the BMP-1 is it? And which country produces it?
  14. Steel loli
    +1
    8 July 2014 12: 07
    Actually, we have 5000 BMP-1s themselves on conservation. And we, too, should think about the modernization of this junk otherwise our army will travel in Soviet antiquity.
    So the Czechs are great in this regard.

    And all the hurray patriotic cries about "Boomerang" and "Kurganets" should be forgotten right away - these are export cars, not for our soviet army.
    For those who wish to object, you can recall the sad experience of the BMP-3 and BMD-4. How many of them were created for the Russian army and how many went beyond the hill?
    1. +1
      8 July 2014 13: 15
      Quote: Steel Loli
      And all the hurray patriotic cries about "Boomerang" and "Kurganets" should be forgotten right away - these are export cars, not for our soviet army.


      Did the defense minister personally tell you this? Your army may and shovels you better know.
    2. Alexey Prikazchikov
      +1
      8 July 2014 16: 56
      BMP 3 in parts of about 3 thousand vehicles. BMD 4 do not need a fuck. About the fact that the boomer and the export mounds go kill yourself with your stupid head against the wall.
      1. Steel loli
        0
        10 July 2014 10: 35
        Where did you find 3K BMP-3 vehicles in the Russian army? There are not so many of them even created.
        Russian Ground Forces - more than 500 BMP-3, as of 2013
        Over 1500 BMP-3 sent for export, as of 2013
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    4. +2
      8 July 2014 19: 28
      I was a little higher, but somewhat later, I already wrote about what to modernize the BMP-1,2, etc. pointless. These machines already have the maximum that you can squeeze out of cars of this class - if only they were on the go. The purpose of vehicles of this level is the movement of infantry in off-road conditions with forcing water barriers. BMP-1 copes with this task very well without modernization. But the real support on the battlefield (I'm not talking about any help in air defense tasks) the machines of this class are not able to provide. At least there are more effective options (money is everything). Just the manufacturers of such equipment, probably understanding the truth, are trying to extend the life of this class of BT by installing modern weapons on it, which does not increase the usefulness of the machine by one iota.
      1. +1
        8 July 2014 22: 55
        As you rightly wrote: "money is everything." When the military budget is divided into
        the infantry usually remains the least. And if the military asks: "to develop
        new BMP "or" to modernize the proven existing ", as you think
        what will the deputies allocate funds for? Therefore, all armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles are such "long-playing
        records. "Therefore, the IDF is still roaring in the bluish smoke of the Ahzarita on
        base T-54 laughing
  15. KC4E
    +1
    8 July 2014 12: 10
    Quote: lukke
    comfort in exchange for safety,

    Nothing of the kind. VMR-M2 CZ, an infantry armored vehicle, is quite suitable for its functions. Additional armor against 7.62mm caliber armor-piercing cartridges is not in vain installed. Armor can be set against 14,5 caliber.
  16. +1
    8 July 2014 12: 12
    Looking at all of the above, it can be said that this technology has the shi
  17. +2
    8 July 2014 12: 25
    Of course it looks fashionable, overseas. Only the goal is not very clear. The price of overhaul and modernization is probably at the level of not the most modern, but the new BMP.
  18. +1
    8 July 2014 12: 48
    The Czechs came out with a very solid modernization of the behi.
    - Raising the roof of the airborne squad was a bold decision. That they made the opportunity more or less tolerable movement inside the car... Who "skated" in the bech will understand what it feels like ...
    - Doprobronirovanie increases the chance of survival.
    - The tower is clearly with modular weapons.

    However, the pictures at the beginning of the article do not correspond to the hardware product ...
    Looks like they didn’t finish their idea.
    1. +1
      8 July 2014 21: 16
      Quote: Aleks tv
      - Raising the roof of the troop compartment was a bold decision. By doing this, they made it possible to move more or less INSIDE the car. Whoever "rode" in the bech will understand


      who designed our behi, probably did not know that the average height of a Russian person is 1m77 cm ... as if they did for the Vietnamese, with their 1m50cm in a jump ... laughing !!!
  19. 0
    8 July 2014 13: 46
    Interestingly, but the tanks are also in the doorway? In the instructions of NATO, they are listed as the most vulnerable places of the BPM-1.
    And so, the Czechs are great, they did not make "Bradley" out of it.
  20. 0
    8 July 2014 15: 27
    Good Czech marafet brought.)
  21. +1
    8 July 2014 16: 33
    It’s a completely masterful approach. The Czechs took as a basis, in principle, a good car and tried to bring it to an acceptable level, strengthening as much as possible armor protection (than the original suffered very much (and installing modern weapons.
    The fact that the loopholes in the troop compartment were removed is a relative disaster, because. all the same, shoot from this box on the go, only spend cartridges and stuff cones. I once tried it myself. To be honest, it’s not up to shooting when it throws you up, then down, then to the sides. The main thing for an infantry fighting vehicle is where the troops need to be delivered alive and alive from the battlefield, evacuate and cover with fire. And this BMP has something to cover with fire even without manual weapons. Moreover, not only does she have decent shooters, but also all sorts of sensors.

    In general, Czechs are creative in what they do. Even Skoda is doing its better than the Germans Volkswagen, although the main components and engine of the Skoda from Volkswagen
  22. Alexey Prikazchikov
    +1
    8 July 2014 16: 57
    Well, there’s no need to buy new behi.
    1. +1
      8 July 2014 21: 41
      Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
      Well, there’s no need to buy new behi.


      but who will be able to carry out such an upgrade ????
      the last "modernization" of the T-72 B3 is worth something ....

      Generally, BMP 1,2 hulls are made of high quality armor !!!!
      and they have GREAT modernization potential ... that the Czechs successfully proved !!!!!

      and if you use a frame, you can do -modernize BMP 1,2 ... and make BMP, on a wheeled chassis !!!! there will be unification with the main gun, at the nodes it is not 70% !!!
  23. 52
    +1
    8 July 2014 16: 59
    Oranges will not be born from aspen, and no matter how much you modernize the old, and initially vicious "iron", not a fig will come of it, there will only be a bias to one side with an increase in mass and a deterioration in dynamic characteristics, and it's not just a more powerful engine, itself the chassis is flawed, without a serious tolerance for increasing loads, and if you continue to improve both the chassis and the transmission, then in the end it’s easier to actually make a new BMP. This is Czech nonsense, wiring for suckers!
    1. +1
      8 July 2014 17: 07
      Do not tell. Here the Romanians had the old MIG 21 which, by all rules, is time for scrap. But they cooperated with the Israelis, they put modern avionics on the MiGs, weapons and this old man turned out to be a fully combat-ready fighter.
      1. 52
        0
        8 July 2014 18: 50
        That's just not "turned out", learn the materiel!
        1. 0
          9 July 2014 05: 45
          Are you for the materiel, sir? So I would go to teach, so hto give me a Romanian visa? Or at least Moldavian.
      2. +2
        8 July 2014 19: 36
        On the MiG-21 there is simply no place to install something revolutionary, the airframe itself has long been outdated. Although the plane, for its time, was excellent. So brother, do not trust Danians too much ...
        1. 0
          9 July 2014 05: 41
          What do you mean does not work? Already succeeded and pretty good. http://defense-update.com/news/lancer.htm
          Of course, not a fountain, but still
  24. +8
    8 July 2014 19: 31
    It’s on the advertising photo that the guys are smiling so much.
    Americans everywhere are stuck with ancient machine guns M2 Browning .50
    At 1,5 km, he hits a pretty penny and punches ... mom do not grieve.
    He will open the board of this BMP playfully. And six funerals.
    In my opinion, a BMP that does not hold a bullet, at least
    heavy machine gun, it costs nothing.
  25. +1
    8 July 2014 19: 34
    And you can make a handle on ivory made of ivory and polish it to shine. A strong thing will be, like this BMP.
  26. +2
    8 July 2014 23: 21
    Dimon-chik-79 A very good option for upgrading a well-deserved car, which is called cheap and cheerful, modern. We would have to think the same about a similar option for ourselves and for sale.

    About cheap and cheerful, this is unlikely. European hands, European prices. But in the case, for urban battle, no matter how you upgrade, an example is Grozny. There the tanks were killed. European theater of war, if against us, is also not so hot. Papuans remain. Yes, it is possible there. But ... As always, the natives have no money. By the way, I liked the increase in height by half a meter. Do not hang up how much protection, a small projection - there is security. Well, at least seeming. And here...
    1. +3
      9 July 2014 02: 10
      They settled the height, security. Something low silhouette BMP-1,2 does not help much. The armor and surveillance devices are the main protection ... And right here, some write that the BMP-1,2 concept is initially vicious, the machine intended for operation with MBT has bulletproof armor belay but for that can swim what why should she swim? because tanks don’t know how to swim ... So, according to the plan of the military on this trough, it is necessary to seize a bridgehead for the deployment of MBT fool
      1. 0
        9 July 2014 03: 18
        Quote: Patton5
        They settled the height, security. Something low silhouette BMP-1,2 does not help much. Armor and surveillance devices are the main protection ..


        height was taken into account when they began to design BMP in the late 50s ...
        Now, you're right ... situational awareness devices come to the fore. WITH 360 DEGREES COVERAGE !!!
      2. 0
        9 July 2014 03: 25
        Quote: Patton5
        intended for action with MBT has bulletproof armor but for that knows how to swim and why should she swim? because tanks don’t know how to swim ... So, according to the plan of the military on this trough, it is necessary to seize a bridgehead for the deployment of MBT

        These are the questions, I asked myself, all my conscious life ...
        to advance with MBT having bulletproof armor ??? is it like ???
        BRDM was created for reconnaissance ... it’s still possible to seize the bridgehead, but how to keep it ???
        1. 52
          0
          9 July 2014 16: 43
          In "T and V" a detailed analysis of the use of the BMP-1,2 was given - even the place of the squad leader in the battle is not determined - whether outside (but how to contact the crew for fire support, and what-the PKT machine gun (in BMP-1) , or a twin cannon-machine gun, or steer from the inside, not knowing the situational situation (walkie-talkies for the SA were like UFOs), or maybe telepathically? Well, a VICIOUS CONCEPT, don't look at this miracle!).
  27. 0
    2 October 2014 12: 09
    Miser pays twice! A beautiful picture, everything is European inside, but the reservation is weak, and no tower here will help, even with an updated gun! Not for nothing, Israel chose to redo the tanks, for the delivery of infantry, the reservation is more serious, and not only against bullets and fragments, but the projectile can withstand. And the fact that half of the soldiers will not reach the battlefield is this, the tenth thing? Such vehicles are designed for the safe delivery of infantry to the front line, and support for the fire of advancing infantry. If you take into account that this box is clearly visible from helicopters and drones, then you need to think about it, too, they will be struck not from an automatic machine! So, they said correctly, time will tell whether this modernization will be in demand or not, and the cost of modernization does not seem to be cheap!
  28. 0
    22 January 2023 21: 55
    This is what I understand about the modernization of the BMP-1, and not that our modernization of the BMP-1 is the BMP-1 AM "Basurmanin".
  29. 0
    23 January 2023 01: 05
    Another option for upgrading the BMP-1.


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