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Putin has rebelled against the adventurer Obama?

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Former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul said the other day that the Ukrainian crisis is the result of Putin’s actions. According to McFaul, there is a “new cold war”, and now there is “the most powerful moment of confrontation since the times of Gorbachev”. The former US ambassador is confident that two events have strengthened Putin’s opinion that the United States is against him. The first event was a protest against Putin at the beginning of 2012, in which the Kremlin accused this very McFaul of organizing. The second event is Yanukovych’s flight from Ukraine. Putin, who decided that the Americans had fooled him again, as if he said: “Everything, I don't give a damn what you think of me.”

Putin has rebelled against the adventurer Obama?


The article "Why Putin rebelled against the United States" ("The Atlantic"; the source of translation is "InoSMI") David Graham, Senior Assistant Editor-in-Chief, cites some of Mr. McFaul's curious remarks.

The former ambassador to Russia believes that the Ukrainian crisis is a direct result of Putin’s actions. McFaul spoke at the Aspensky “festival of ideas”, which was held by “The Atlantic” and the Aspen Institute.

“Is this a new cold war? There are some similarities. This is the most powerful moment of confrontation since Gorbachev’s times, ”said McFaul. And he added: “This is a deeply tragic moment. It makes me think about that - and I know that the president is also thinking about it - that maybe we were naive in believing that a different relationship is possible with Russia. ”

The ex-ambassador notes that if Russia made the transition to democracy and the market faster, as Poland did, say, the situation could have looked different.

So - the USSR, empire, rollback to the past? Not.

“I don’t think that Putin is sitting and dreaming like a child about the return of the Russian empire,” says McFaul. “The events of twenty years ago cannot explain what is happening today if we cooperated two years ago,” the former ambassador notes.

Further, Mr. McFaul identifies two major events that strengthened Putin in the opinion that the United States is irreconcilably opposed to him and even "are determined to expel him from power."

The first event is protests against Putin at the start of 2012. The Kremlin is known to have accused McFaul of organizing them. However, McFaul himself does not want to say that it all started from those days. "But it was not the end stories“Because Putin is a great pragmatist who is able to divide phenomena into different categories,” said McFaul. - He will say: "I understand that you are trying to overthrow the regimes in Syria, in Iran and with us," but will still work on concluding commercial transactions or cooperate with America on the chemical issue weapons».

The second event occurred this winter. The US government took part in the Ukrainian crisis, trying to mediate in the transfer of power, when suddenly Yanukovych suddenly fled the country.

“Putin thought that the Americans had fooled him once again. Then he said: "Everything, I do not care what you think of me." This, according to McFaul, suggests that Putin has taken a structuralist position. He believed that the American strategy set a goal to weaken him at every turn and refused to make any attempts to reckon with Obama as an active force in politics. Such a decision McFaul considers purely emotional.

"We are in the habit of explaining the actions of individuals and states, based on rational explanations and logic, and my experience in government suggests ... that these people have emotions, they have their own views on the world, and that different people in these positions behave differently . Good news is that there is no big strategy in which they first capture the Crimea, then eastern Ukraine, then Moldova, and then a part of Estonia. This is a reaction to the collapse of power in Kiev. ”


But there is bad news:

“The bad news is that, in my opinion, Putin is now entrenched in his point of view. It will be a long, very long confrontational struggle with Russia, and it can last at least until Putin leaves the post. ”


Journalist Eric Suess (OpEdNews.com, translation source - Mixednews.ru) believes that today America is losing the war in Ukraine.

According to the political analyst, "Obama's coup in Ukraine" caused a "backlash," and it would "cost the US much more" than previously thought.

Obama's Ukrainian adventure will destroy his reputation in the United States, the author believes. His authority has already fallen in countries where the press is controlled by local elites, whose position does not always coincide with the American one.

In the current Ukrainian government, disagreements are growing, including between Kolomoisky and Poroshenko. Kiev regime is exhausted.

In addition, the Ukrainian government is “the most ultra-right in the world.” According to the journalist, its composition "identified Obama agent Victoria Nuland." Victoria's husband, Robert Kagan, is the co-founder of the Project for a New American Century. This man advocated a US invasion of Iraq. Kagan is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations in Brussels and editor of The New Republic.

For P. Poroshenko in the elections voted only residents of the north-western regions of Ukraine. The journalist points out that 9 in May, Prime Minister Yatsenyuk, started ethnic cleansing in the Southeast, and those who had previously voted for Yanukovych had only two options: to flee to Russia or die. This operation allowed the Kiev government to retain the ultra-right deviation and at the same time be “democratically elected.”

American journalist George Elaison wrote that Kolomoisky recently refused to obey Poroshenko’s orders and even considered the proposal of the “peace plan” a sign of weakness. Eric Suesse believes that Kolomoisky is a protege of Washington, and Obama and Nuland are responsible for "this monster".

Finally, progressive Craig Roberts spoke about the cracks that appear between Arsen Avakov and Dmitry Yarosh.

As for Putin, his public statements sound “so conciliatory” that it is “extremely difficult” for Barack Obama to continue to “demonize” the image of the Russian leader, according to Süssse.

“Perhaps the world is witnessing Obama throwing himself in the dustbin of history. Republicans are supposed to despise him for being a “democrat.” In turn, Democrats need to be stupid to think that Obama is indeed one of them. This is an excellent gift to the Republicans (who awarded America with such a nonentity as George W. Bush). After all, with a president like Obama, the nation can really yearn even at the times of its predecessor. ”


The same suss in the article for washingtonsblog.com (source of translation - Mixednews.ru) writes that "the company Poroshenko - Kolomoisky - Obama not only did not succeed, but in fact loses the war." In his opinion, the inhabitants of the South-East organized "effective partisan resistance." Earlier, Ukraine lost the Crimea: the overwhelming majority of the population there spoke in favor of reunification with Russia. Obama and his puppets, the author notes, it remains only not to recognize the fact that Crimeans freely voted for returning to Russia ...

A survey conducted by the American Gallup Institute throughout Ukraine showed that the Crimea is very negative towards the United States (2,8% gave a favorable assessment), but Russia is loved there (71,3%). According to the results of the referendum, according to 82,8% of Crimeans, only 6,7% were against.

The author believes that Obama is “again cunning”, and his fabrications are spread under the guise of truth by obedient American media.

What can Moscow oppose to Washington today in the “Ukrainian crisis”? On this subject the other day talked on the site "Free Press" Anton Mardasov. He asked a question: can Russia outline the “red line” for America and for Obama personally? And what exactly will make it go? Millionth flow of refugees from the Donbass or the number of civilians killed?

Vladimir Anokhin, First Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, answered these questions. The expert believes that the United States itself is driving itself into a corner. But Russia must act decisively: the red line has already been passed.

“Now a sort of zugzwang is taking shape, when every step of our opponents (we should not call them partners) makes the positions of the latter weaker. Russia, for example, very calmly reacted to all of these, forgive the idiotic sanctions, did not throw a tantrum, they say, and we will do something to you too. This tranquility plunged the West into political shock. He no longer knows what to do.

It is also wrong when they say that the Russian Federation allegedly loses the information war. None of our counter-propaganda has done more than the Ukrainians and Americans themselves have done. The United States generally showed itself in all its glory. The governor of the Rostov region says that the boundaries of his region have crossed 186 thousands of people. This is a humanitarian catastrophe, but the State Department insists that these people are going to "relax to the grandmothers." None of the most sophisticated propagandists would ever guess. ”


In addition, as the analyst further notes, the countries of the “old Europe” are beginning to “feel skin” that they are being set up. During the time of the Yugoslav crisis, the rate of American companies rose, and the dollar went around the euro. Today, the situation unfolds in the most unfavorable manner, again for Europe.

As for the UN Security Council, this structure is confidently following the path of the League of Nations. States are clinging to their superiority and do not want to recognize the multipolarity of the world, the expert said.

Another analyst, a representative of the Kryshtanovskaya Laboratory, political analyst Mikhail Korostikov, believes that Russia cannot dictate any conditions to the United States. However, she still could act.

“It is worth saying that Russia's economic and financial dependence on the United States is much more than the dependence of the United States on the Russian Federation. However, Russia, probably, could, firstly, completely stop cooperation in the space sphere. This would cause big problems for the United States in terms of delivering cargo and astronauts to orbit, satellite launch, and space exploration. Secondly, we could, unofficially, behind the scenes, say that we will deliver C-300 installations to Iran and other countries in order to complicate their already difficult relationship with the States. ”


Political analyst Semen Bagdasarov told the Free Press that Russia has plenty of opportunities to put pressure on the United States:

“This year the United States is withdrawing the bulk of its troops from Afghanistan. The withdrawal of troops can be carried out in several directions: the southern one - from Pakistan through the Khyber Pass and to Karachi, but there the Taliban fighters are operating with might and main, which can cause serious damage to the troops; western - through Central Asia and to Turkey, but this is a very difficult route; northern - through Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Russia to the Baltic states. This way is the most acceptable for the Americans. We have several agreements on this subject with the United States, for example, on the railway connection, which was concluded without ratification and provides for the delivery of non-lethal aid in closed containers (and nobody knows what is inside) and flight connections. Thanks to the latter, at one time, the States completely carried out the rotation of their troops, and the air navigation services for American transit fell entirely on the Russian budget. In addition, our transport aviation in the interests of the Americans, it is used to transport necessary equipment and even to transport goods inside Afghanistan. ”


And these are the agreements that the expert considers possible to break all the agreements. In addition, Russian airlines can get a ban on flights to the "good" of the United States. As a result, the Americans "will be oh how hard."

So, Russian analysts and experts offer a lot of options on how to “equip” the Ukrainian crisis. However, it seems that while the “great pragmatist” Putin is acting in the international arena, his “antipode” Obama is acting. Two sanctions packages have been introduced against Russia, and the US president is threatening to introduce a third one — the most terrible, sectoral, which could also hit the Russian energy industry.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said the other day, writes Gazeta.ruthat the US authorities use sanctions against Russia as a new offensive weapon. Ryabkov said this in an interview with Kommersant.

“It seems that power structures in Washington have come to the conclusion that it is sometimes easier and cheaper to apply sanctions than to carry out a traditional projection of military force on someone. That is, we are dealing with a new offensive type of weapon, ”comrade Ryabkov noted.

What is Russia to answer? According to Ryabkov, Russia will not be drawn into the arms race: “We will not do that. But we are forced to seek an antidote. On offensive weapons should be defensive. This is what we will do. ”

So the US is doing, and the Kremlin is “engaged.”

We would very much like journalist Eric Züsse to be right in the end, believing that Obama lost in Ukraine, and Putin won, and that Obama will even soon throw himself in the dustbin of history. But so far there are no real prerequisites for this. Rather, there are opposite prerequisites: Obama, no less emotional than Putin, certainly believes Ukraine to be something of a field for a rematch. On it, in this field, he wants to recoup for all his geopolitical failures and even for internal defeats - from the unsuccessful “reset” to the “shutdown” of the government last year. B. Kh. O. really does not want to go down in history as the “lame duck” of all American “lame ducks”.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. johnsnz
    johnsnz 8 July 2014 09: 00
    +35
    Russia has never been a partner of the USA! Everyone plays their own game. And Russia's position is currently stronger. The country has a leader who enjoys the support of the population! And you, Barack, can you brag about this?
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 8 July 2014 09: 04
      +42
      Help Putin, drive them to Berlin.
      Poroshenko to the prison, the rest of all under the rink.
      1. sscha
        sscha 8 July 2014 09: 44
        +12
        The article is of the opinion that all "this" will last until Putin leaves power ....
        You are wrong! Everything is just beginning and will continue until adequate people appear at the helm in America.
        1. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 8 July 2014 10: 23
          +8
          Quote: sscha
          The article is of the opinion that all "this" will last until Putin leaves power ....
          You are wrong! Everything is just beginning and will continue until adequate people appear at the helm in America.

          Or - there will be no such state - the United States. And it is high time to cut off this "Afghan transit"! This is not a blow to the shadow, but to whoever it is. And in're coming out ... PII will brighten when Pindo..sov has more serious concern. Oleg, as always, everything is fine - "+"!
          1. tolancop
            tolancop 8 July 2014 11: 47
            +10
            You need to beat not when you want, but when the blow will be the most painful. If amers close transit now, they will be forced to look for other ways, but they WILL have time to search. And if you send them when the withdrawal will physically begin, then the amers will have a scratchy comb: you need to pull the tail out, the track has covered itself, and TIME is running out ....
        2. azbukin77
          azbukin77 8 July 2014 12: 09
          +3
          NEVER will there be adequate people at the helm mattresses, well, only if Psaki?
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          2. GUKTU92
            GUKTU92 8 July 2014 17: 42
            +3
            “We are in the habit of explaining the actions of individuals and states based on rational explanations and logic,

            I read and sobbed with happiness! I’m breaking my head, you know, what Psaki does when she opens her mouth, and she, it turns out, "explains to us the actions of individuals ... based on rational explanations and logic". That's how it is!
            1. alexandr-budarin1
              alexandr-budarin1 8 July 2014 18: 19
              0
              Ha!!! LOGIC in its explanation? !!! This is something new!! laughing
        3. tyrus
          tyrus 8 July 2014 14: 24
          +5
          The bad news is that, in my opinion, Putin has now strengthened his point of view. It will be a long, very long confrontational struggle with Russia, and it can last at least until Putin leaves the post of leader. ”
          Rather, the United States will have to collapse!
        4. ussr1960
          ussr1960 8 July 2014 16: 01
          +4
          Quote: sscha

          You are wrong! Everything is just beginning and will continue until adequate people appear at the helm in America.

          "Adequate" people cannot appear there in the near future, and even in the distant future. With all the cries for freedom, against the backdrop of a huge statue with a blindfold, society is not free. It is under the full control of the special services and the targeted action of the media with the media. The ideology of the United States has long been known and will never change. In such conditions a free, "adequate" person cannot come to power. Only the henchmen of the bigwigs from the military-industrial complex and shadow billionaires will be brought into the presidency, with the entourage under their control. This is the system.
          1. alexandr-budarin1
            alexandr-budarin1 8 July 2014 18: 25
            0
            Democracy in the United States is a product for internal use in the United States itself, like Japanese cars for the "domestic market." And adequate ones can appear, in my opinion, under two conditions: (from distant "perestroika") it is "pluralism of opinions" and "glasnost ". Those were good slogans !!! good
      2. Sunjar
        Sunjar 8 July 2014 09: 46
        +16
        Quote: Ghoul-McFaul
        “I don’t think Putin is sitting and childish dreams of the return of the Russian empire. "
        Putin thought that the Americans once again he was fooled.


        Wah, wah, wah. That's it, Putin Putin brought the child back to Russia. It was Putin and Snowden who openly trolled the United States when he hinted that Snowden would fly away to another country, and they got into a mess by landing the plane of the head of a sovereign state. And what an emotional Putin, when the US applies sanctions and threatens Russia. And what a stupid Putin, when he broke off all plans for the US invasion of Syria.

        And of course, the United States wishes us only good and prosperity. That is why they, together with England, planned Operation Unthinkable - this is when, after the defeat of Germany, they wanted to attack the USSR with the use of nuclear weapons, but pissed off, because they realized that they would not master it.

        McFaul was offended by Putin for being wiped out from the post of ambassador, because he could not cope. If a once again fooled Putin such here, then they are generally imbeciles.
      3. WKS
        WKS 8 July 2014 11: 27
        +3
        In other words, Obama is a wimp, a miserable African American, where he is before Putin. In general, in the United States, in any case, its top management, there is stagnation and degeneration, if not decay. Soon they will kirdyk.
    2. BYV
      BYV 8 July 2014 09: 05
      +8
      And who, as a rule, shouts the loudest: Derzhivora! "?
    3. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 July 2014 09: 07
      +7
      In his opinion, the residents of the Southeast organized an “effective guerrilla resistance”. Yes
    4. Natalia
      Natalia 8 July 2014 10: 24
      +21
      Naive reasoning, supposedly naive McFaul.
      Of course, Russia is a country that seeks to increase its influence, but for what? And all in order to protect themselves from the influence of enemy countries (which the United States is). The United States, of course, is not happy with this, and they are striving to cancel the delay in the revival (rebirth) of Russia.

      And this will continue until some kind of cataclysm happens in America, and until they, the USA, find much more important problems than the growing influence of Russia.
      And all the same, what it will be, a volcano or an asteroid crash .... or maybe there will still be a technical default there .... although the US can easily say that we don’t owe anything to anyone else.

      A rotten nation is cultivated not on its own achievements, but on the suffering and tragedies of other countries. Where would America be if World War I did not happen, where America would not World War II happen ..... the country washes money to the suffering of others, the so-called parasite state.

      And McFaul, too, is a rotten parasite who pretended to be a fool and plays in public. This is the first z.a.s.r.p.a.s. the black column to which the entire fifth column was built.
      1. Unclean
        Unclean 8 July 2014 22: 33
        +1
        It was they who unleashed both of these slaughterhouses, in the first they tried and in the second they liked
        But McFaul is not a rabbit, but an O.B.O.S.R.s.a.s. And crap onzhizha liquid in the swamp area, when he was recorded on camera there and asked about the clever pisyun he is doing here. How he brought down from there. A young girl asked him a question, but he is poor and did not know what to do, where are he. But his heifer wanted to remove the camera, only the girl did not come alone and the voice, so affectionate without being in the frame, asked not to touch the camera in very lucrative intonations with distinctive bass.
    5. portoc65
      portoc65 8 July 2014 10: 34
      +3
      Get up a huge country ... get up to a mortal battle ... there is a cold war with America itself ... angry
    6. 70BSN
      70BSN 8 July 2014 12: 06
      +3
      In general, I am for GDP good good good . But there are some points on which he doesn’t do anything ...... or I'm just rushing things in my head !!!
    7. andrereu74
      andrereu74 8 July 2014 14: 42
      +6
      yeah, I liked the phrase more: "... if two years ago we collaborated." I remember, especially since the 90s fruitful "cooperation" was ... who benefits from such cooperation, I wonder ???)))) Is it really Russia ???
    8. Puler
      Puler 8 July 2014 19: 49
      0
      behind a farm laborer a mountain ... a blue wave ... He zealously defends them all over the world ...
    9. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 9 July 2014 00: 05
      0
      Quote: johnsnz
      Russia has never been a partner of the USA! Everyone plays their own game. And Russia's position is currently stronger. The country has a leader who enjoys the support of the population! And you, Barack, can you brag about this?
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 8 July 2014 09: 03
    +12
    “This is a deeply tragic moment. It makes me think about - and I know that the president also thinks about it - that maybe we were naive, believing that other relations are possible with Russia. "

    They obama thought that Russia could continue to bend down and it would be easy and fun for everyone, but then it began to straighten out, it wasn’t finished, poor people, pichalka.
  3. subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 8 July 2014 09: 04
    +29
    Do not understand you with your own little mind.
  4. Gagarin
    Gagarin 8 July 2014 09: 06
    +7
    In the picture in this article, OBAMA FALLS ON THE FLOOR ALREADY WITH EMBEDDED POCKETS! ))))
  5. Dimsanych
    Dimsanych 8 July 2014 09: 07
    +4
    The dog barks, the caravan is coming!

    Yes, they have nothing more to do than just whine, rootless amerases.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 8 July 2014 14: 10
      +11
      Quote: DimSanych
      Yes, they have nothing more to do than just whine, rootless amerases.

      Here is a good piece of advice:
  6. Riesling
    Riesling 8 July 2014 09: 09
    +7
    The United States has not been a leader for a long time, armed conflicts are stirring up, Obama thereby distracting his people from problems in the economy. And will remain in history as a BLACK-skinned president, not a strategist.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 8 July 2014 09: 17
    +2
    Not soon the fairy tale affects, not quickly the thing is done ..
  8. Evgesh91
    Evgesh91 8 July 2014 09: 18
    +5
    It makes me think about - and I know that the president also thinks about it - that maybe we were naive, believing that other relations are possible with Russia. "
    and thanks to Putin for ending these "other" relations with you, now be afraid of relations according to OUR rules!
  9. staryivoin
    staryivoin 8 July 2014 09: 19
    +2
    Before saying all this, McFaul is visible, somewhere he hit hard and then, as they say, he suffered !!!
    1. Unclean
      Unclean 9 July 2014 00: 15
      0
      Yeah, on a swamp, with a run, about a corner, about seven times, when I fell from there.
  10. mig31
    mig31 8 July 2014 09: 20
    +6
    America will die in terrible agony, like an evil empire, and Russia will survive as in all the troubled times of our history ....
  11. dimak2487
    dimak2487 8 July 2014 09: 21
    -4
    I’ll take a look here at all ... though ssi in the eye - all God's dew
    Even on the "censor" your brothers in reason are not so blessed.
    What about the article is verbal diarrhea. Fantasy.
    Do you have one person writing?
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  12. shishakova
    shishakova 8 July 2014 09: 25
    +1
    Americans will never understand Russia.
  13. Glowworm
    Glowworm 8 July 2014 09: 32
    +8
    Sanctions, not sanctions. I think the main answer to the entire American-European rag-tag is to return a decent fundamental education to schools (they have not completely fucked up), to give engineers the opportunity to develop industry without the interference of hookers, to return the concept of "DEFENDER OF THE FATHERLAND" to army units and to the brains of the country's male population. Well, at least that.
  14. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 8 July 2014 09: 43
    +5
    such ridiculous downed pilots like McFaul ... here's another patented "specialist" for color revolutions sent - Taft!
    in a couple of years we’ll listen to this dancer when he will tell everyone what prevented him ...
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 8 July 2014 14: 13
      +1
      Quote: Russian Uzbek
      such ridiculous downed pilots like McFaul ... here's another patented "specialist" for color revolutions sent - Taft!
      in a couple of years we’ll listen to this dancer when he will tell everyone what prevented him ...

      And Putin eats this TEFTelka even without a side dish!
  15. ELECTRON
    ELECTRON 8 July 2014 09: 48
    0
    Another drooling !!! They just understand that they woke up the Russian bear. Soon, the yellow-billed chicken will sit in its nest behind a puddle and not cackle, because it will soon lose world domination. And as soon as this happens, everyone will instantly forget such a country as the United States. But they will very clearly remember all the atrocities that she committed.
  16. the righteous
    the righteous 8 July 2014 09: 48
    +2
    The most interesting thing is that these are just one words: Putin can do one or the other in response to the sanctions. But the sanctions both were introduced and promise to be introduced. But only that the United States is not profitable, such as rocket engines. And when it’s interesting with side of Moscow will be retaliatory steps. This is a big, big QUESTION. And whether these steps will be taken. There is doubt in this.
    1. Ilya 22
      Ilya 22 8 July 2014 10: 26
      +6
      As long as we have pro-anglo-matric bureaucrats and oligarchs sitting in our government! It's high time to remember the 2nd half of the 30s, to carry out "reforms" in the government, this will be real, not like changing energy-saving light bulbs everywhere wassat
      1. Fast
        Fast 8 July 2014 11: 35
        +4
        "... not like changing energy-saving bulbs everywhere"

        the bulbs will be changed to LEDs, which are not cheap and shitty, and they will inflate tariffs, explaining that it is beneficial for the people.

        - And it's not like smokers to drive, with a banal rise in price of tobacco and fines / bribes ...
        It would be better for the farmers to organize the conditions and the normal sale of products, otherwise we are eating a foreign "g" ... cheesy tomatoes are more expensive than in winter.
  17. Caa
    Caa 8 July 2014 10: 06
    +5
    McFaul thinks too much of himself. In general, this American semi-chauvinism has already got the whole world. American People is going to crash soon and it hurts. Not because it is haughty, but because it is accelerated. The best option for the World is without the Americans. Bring back the Indians!
  18. natakor1949
    natakor1949 8 July 2014 10: 20
    +5
    G. McFaul, as a thief caught in theft, i.e. caught by the hand while being coupled with our 5th column - he cannot forgive Russia for the fact that he was not given the opportunity to launch another "democratic, free, rosy revolution" in our country. Therefore, from evil powerlessness, it carries all sorts of crap. Well, you have to think of it and tell the world that: "the Ukrainian crisis is a direct result of Putin's actions." How much cynicism and stupidity in his statements. One gets the feeling that all of them, i.e. McFaul, psaki, obamki - they studied in the same class with the great ukrami, the intellect is one. De-bi-ly. And the whole world is afraid of these ghouls. It's a shame for old Europe and other smart and civilized countries.
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    1. 75 hammer
      75 hammer 8 July 2014 11: 18
      +2
      What a spam !!!
    2. 75 hammer
      75 hammer 8 July 2014 11: 18
      0
      What a spam !!!
    3. secondoy
      secondoy 8 July 2014 11: 23
      +5
      They confirm that you will only find out when and where the blacks stop drinking pineapple water!
      And yes, even climbing Mount Everest in 1943, he said such a thing. And where was Putin at that time, I ask you?
      On the 30th, everything that happened on the 12th will happen. There weren’t enough insoles when there were bast shoes.

      Chair ... Herring ... Synchrophasotron ..


      I know the password, I see the pineapple, I believe that raccoons will come to save us I know beavers, I see a baboon, you can’t mix cocaine with amphetamine wink
    4. scorpiosys
      scorpiosys 8 July 2014 20: 39
      0
      Kostya Brain * b. How many wheels did you roll? Ali can ukrozombomashchik looked? Ali your hair grows inside the brain and shamelessly JACKET it?
    5. Danu
      Danu 9 July 2014 01: 28
      +1
      One can relate to the Church in any way, but one must always understand that, despite the human factor, Faith is currently the only bearer of real values.
      The church as an institution, despite statehood / acquisitiveness / etc., is one of the generators of real carriers of spirituality (even if it is 1 in 1000, but it doesn’t happen otherwise).
      There are such people in the Church, but they are not shown on TV, and in any organization (and the Church is an organization), especially in a "well-fed" time, there are many money-grubbingers, and God is with them.

      p / s
      I’m not answering you, but by the fact that I believe that the church can be judged not by leaders, and not by simple priests who just do their righteous deed (I just know those)


      s / s Pictures put in the forums a lot of mind is not necessary
    6. krot
      krot 9 July 2014 03: 40
      0
      Mushrooms ate ..)))
  20. private with
    private with 8 July 2014 10: 53
    +2
    Kostya, do you smoke?
    1. The point
      The point 8 July 2014 15: 39
      +2
      Anasha, Anasha, they say you're good!
  21. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 8 July 2014 10: 55
    +11
    Bratislav Zhikovich, the commander of the Serbian detachment "Jovan Shevich", fighting in Donetsk, published an open letter about the situation in New Russia.
    Brothers and sisters,
    These receive various messages and discouraging news from me through the press, serving the New World Order, that Putin allegedly betrayed the Russian people fighting against the fascist Ukrainian forces.
    Truth is not only what you see with your eyes and hear with your ears. Let us recall the Apostle Thomas, who did not believe in the Risen Lord Jesus Christ, until he put his fingers into His wounds. The Lord then said: “You believed because you saw Me; Blessed are those who have not seen and who have believed. " And really, I tell you, believe the heart. Politics is a prostitute, we all know that. But wars from the Middle Ages were not waged for the sake of heroism. A soldier is a pawn in the game of politics, the only question is, does the pawn believe its king?
    And I would ask, in whose interests is it now to turn the Serbs against the Russians and Putin? Who uses this difficult moment to promote pro-western politics? Why not report on the support of the fascist formations in Ukraine by the EU and America? Why do not comment on the Poroshenko law on the lack of understanding of prisoners? This was not even among the pagans! Why not write about the bombing of schools, hospitals and churches, the murder of journalists, children and the elderly? Where is the truth about burned in Odessa? And there are thousands more questions, but the most important of them is - WHY DOES NO ONE HAVE ANY TALKS WITH RUSSIANS IN UKRAINE? !!! This is beyond comprehension. They are negotiating with terrorists, with insurgents, with kidnappers, even with suicides ... but, but no one invites the insurgent Russian people to negotiations ?! That is the question. And now think for yourself who does not need peace, who does not need an independent Ukraine ...
    In conclusion, I would return to the chessboard and tell you that in this game the white pawns exclaim to their king "GLORY TO RUSSIA !!!"
    Bratislav Zhivkovich
    Chetnik movement commander



    1. Danu
      Danu 9 July 2014 00: 25
      +1
      Too many beautiful, spectacular photos ........
  22. Elena
    Elena 8 July 2014 11: 11
    +9
    I think there is not a single clearly minded individual in the world who justifies America’s policies. A country playing with the fates of millions of people, spreading democracy through the warrior, and in reality wreaking havoc and destruction.
  23. DMB-88
    DMB-88 8 July 2014 11: 19
    -1
    Hellraiser)))
  24. Hope1960
    Hope1960 8 July 2014 11: 19
    +4
    There is a fight not for life, but to the death !!! The Russian world is hard work, justice, protection of the disadvantaged, education, mercy, faith! How to survive against the Ecumenical evil ?! As always, all together, forcing traitors out of their ranks, do not trust the upbringing of children to "human rights defenders, foreign foundations", strengthening vigilance. Yes, yes: vigilance, otherwise all "Jehovah's Witnesses" and other "preachers" will brainwash their own people !!! I trust Putin !!!!!! And close the corridor through Russia to Afghan and bargain all the way !!!!!!!!! Terrorize states with space !!! I'd like to take revenge for the entire perestroika- Gorbachev is on trial - there is no statute of limitations for crimes against his people !!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. PATTIY
      PATTIY 8 July 2014 19: 05
      +1
      Quote: Hope1960
      Gorbachev's trial - there is no statute of limitations for crimes against his people !!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Gorbachev remained in the history of the Russian State, no doubt.
      As - the seller of the homeland. Forever stained his name, and his name - Labeled!
      With his henchman - Shevarnadze. About the dead or good, or nothing.
      But - not an eagle, no !! Though Georgian
  25. Naval
    Naval 8 July 2014 11: 54
    +8
    The idea is certainly interesting ..... lol
    1. doxtop
      doxtop 8 July 2014 12: 44
      0
      So ... there still in the winter I remember conducted such a survey. out of those who need 100 votes from the list (so that, according to local laws, it is possible to raise the question of secession from the United States) they scored something about 58 thousand;)
      1. Sergey Krymsky
        Sergey Krymsky 9 July 2014 01: 25
        +1
        no referendum necessary
  26. Eragon
    Eragon 8 July 2014 12: 05
    +6
    I don't know what Russian politicians are doing or not doing. Not admitted, you know, to the political "kitchen". However, I see. I hope everyone already understands that the war is waged between Russia and the United States not for Ukraine, but for Europe. Ukraine is just a "desktop" on which the struggle is being waged. And I see that at first Europe fiercely condemned Russia, threatened with sanctions, introduced something there. And now Obama with his next package of sanctions was "rolled", and unanimously (oh, I apologize, Lithuania was "for"), France and Germany, and these are the pillars of a united Europe, openly send states to hell, in the media the militias are no longer "terrorists "and the" volunteers ", more and more often Donetsk and Luhansk regions are not" separatist regions ", but the DPR, LPR or Novorossiya, etc. Therefore, the conclusion suggests itself - Russia is winning. Yes, this is not a "blitzkrieg", guns (Russian) do not rattle, planes do not bomb, soldiers do not die. But isn't this the aerobatics of politics - to win a war without using the armed forces?
    Remember 2008, it all began in the same way - Russia is the aggressor, poor Georgians. And a year later they clearly decided: Georgia is an aggressor, Russia is a defender.
  27. Finches
    Finches 8 July 2014 12: 28
    +7
    There are ordinary, normal Americans, but there is a pin ...... sy!
    And the closer to Capitol Hill, the number of pins ..... s increases sharply! And the world is full of podpin .... dosniki!
    Unfortunately, there are such people in Russia, but on the whole, Russia is the state, probably the only one in the world capable of openly resisting the expansion of this infection. There is little hope for China; it will quietly rotate its affairs in Asia.
  28. fevg
    fevg 8 July 2014 12: 29
    +3
    Quote: Naval
    The idea is certainly interesting ..... lol
    For the historical reunion of the Aleuts of Alaska and Kamchatka! drinks We will ensure the peaceful holding of the referendum! soldier Alaska, go home! feel
  29. MSA
    MSA 8 July 2014 12: 58
    0
    Oil the Yankees, bubuka with your monkey abama
  30. pensioner
    pensioner 8 July 2014 13: 20
    +2
    Putin took a structuralist position.

    belay
    ETTO HOW ??
  31. X Y Z
    X Y Z 8 July 2014 13: 46
    0
    No, of course, I understand that the very threat to apply any measures acts on our "partners", but this cannot continue indefinitely and the "partners" may have the illusion that we will never be able to do this. Worst of all, a similar thought will inevitably appear among our fellow citizens. Still, there should be a red line, after crossing which concrete actions will automatically follow, striking the interests of the United States.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 8 July 2014 14: 34
      +1
      Quote: XYZ
      All the same, there should be a red line, after the intersection of which specific actions will automatically follow, striking the interests of the United States.

      If America knows where this "red line" is, it will prepare for it. And when this line comes up, they can meet us fully armed and prepared. Another thing is when the adversary sees that there is no adequate answer from the other side, which means he will think that he has nothing to fear. And what will it be like for these Americans when, at the most inopportune moment, they receive tinsel - this will be a complete "paragraph" for them. It seems to me that everything goes towards this.
  32. Lenar
    Lenar 8 July 2014 13: 57
    0
    Respect for the artist. Beautiful back footrest
  33. pensioner
    pensioner 8 July 2014 13: 59
    +1
    B. Kh. O. really does not want to go down in history as the most “lame duck” of all American “lame ducks”.
    Well then, it will enter as the most downed pilot of all the downed pilots. Alternatives seem to be gone ....
    Thanks Oleg for the review.
  34. HAM
    HAM 8 July 2014 14: 57
    +7
    Without words, to the point.
  35. Yasondinalt
    Yasondinalt 8 July 2014 15: 31
    0
    Quote: johnsnz
    Russia has never been a partner of the USA! Everyone plays their own game. And Russia's position is currently stronger. The country has a leader who enjoys the support of the population! And you, Barack, can you brag about this?

    At all times we have been in contradiction, except for the war of independence. And who would not assure that this is not so (and there were a dime a dozen of them: "America needs a strong Russia"), this is so.
  36. MilesAth
    MilesAth 8 July 2014 16: 03
    +1
    What does this, pardon the expression, "ambassador" mean by cooperation? Playing by the rules of the game? Otherwise "I don't play like that" wassat
    I just killed about the "confrontation of the times of Gorbachev"
  37. Monk
    Monk 8 July 2014 16: 18
    +1
    McFall is a fool ...
  38. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 8 July 2014 16: 21
    +1
    Quote: johnsnz
    Russia has never been a partner of the USA! Everyone plays their own game. And Russia's position is currently stronger. The country has a leader who enjoys the support of the population! And you, Barack, can you brag about this?

    They consider partnership the seizure of resources, the collapse of the army, the reduction of many types of armaments, in the generally-manual Russia, and here the GDP has fallen short of hands, everything, not democracy!
  39. 205577
    205577 8 July 2014 16: 52
    +4
    To call Putin an emotional leader did it have to be very tense, or was it the expectation that no one would pay attention to it? For fans of Western media, we are, of course, "zombified" by our "Putin-Kiselevskaya" media, but let them think what they want. But for all the time that VVP was in power, I personally saw his emotions once - when the people blocked his way, and everything else is always a balanced, strictly dosed reaction to any event.
    We (in the face of GDP) see whether emotions interfere, Americans see whether they wanted absolutely one thing, and we biasedly looked at something completely different. Well, we are kind of dull, insufficiently gullible or something ...
    There the Germans, they said once - we are your most loyal friends, so they believe. And what not to believe, you think, we are watching your authorities, we control your intelligence services, we will never give up your gold reserves, we will use you as cannon fodder in the European (and not only) arena, we will do our best to weaken your economy - but after all this is not a reason not to believe! And the Germans believe. And those who among the Germans do not believe in the "free" media and are not allowed to shoot a cannon, so as not to sow doubts about the infallibility and disinterestedness of American friendship. Again, the Germans don't get in the way of emotions ...
    And with the Russians, well, it’s just some kind of trouble - they don’t believe it, you see, and that’s it! All of them are emotional, undemocratic, decisions are impractical ...
    Just if you want to plant "democracy" in Ossetia and Abkhazia - they drive democrats across all Georgia, thought to place "freedom and equality" in Crimea - this is an absolutely open referendum and again a bummer, it has almost grown together with the Ukrainian GTS - but no, they are building, the opposite their North and South streams and all on bare emotions and complete disbelief to the Great and Mighty, the Most Just and Truthful on Earth, USA!
    Well, how can you not be upset here, how can you not blame GDP for all the troubles? And what can these unfortunate Americans do with us, can some kind of mini-genocide against us arrange, so, a small, millions on 140, so that with a guarantee?
    Oh, these "God" chosen nations (I'm talking about Americans) ...
    1. PATTIY
      PATTIY 8 July 2014 18: 42
      +1
      Quote: 205577
      Americans see if they wanted absolutely one thing

      This: - The West of Russia needs only one thing so that it does not exist.
      ***
      "... In our sincere friendly and close relations with the West, we do not notice that we are dealing as if with a person who carries an evil, contagious disease, surrounded by an atmosphere of dangerous breath. We kiss with him, hug, share a meal of thought, drink a cup feelings ... and we do not notice the hidden poison in our careless communication, we do not smell the fun of the feast of the future corpse, which he already smells of ... "
      "Rotten West" - A term born in the XNUMXth century in Russia.
      History of Expression
      Stepan Petrovich Shevyrev (1806–1864) - Russian literary critic, historian of literature, poet of Slavophil beliefs. Academician of the St. Petersburg Academy of Sciences
      In 1841, the first issue of the Moskvityan magazine published an article by S. P. Shevyrev, “The View of the Russian on the Education of Europe”.
  40. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 8 July 2014 16: 53
    +2
    Putin, who decided that the Americans had fooled him again, as if he said: “That's it, I don't give a damn about what you think about me”


    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/818/sltb496.jpg
  41. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 8 July 2014 16: 57
    +1
    In addition, the Ukrainian government is “the most ultra-right in the world.” According to the journalist, its composition "was determined by Obama's agent Victoria Nuland."

    that Kolomoisky recently refused to obey Poroshenko’s orders and even considered the proposal for a “peace plan” a sign of weakness.


    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/972/vspc554.jpg
  42. PATTIY
    PATTIY 8 July 2014 18: 07
    0
    It looks like in the USA down the earth is burning and the heels are roasting. Europe is slipping away.
    Hurry to spoil large and small!
    Leninopad began again in Ruin, and in PSHIKii the monument to the Red Army fighters was demolished.
    We must answer for the Sikorsky bazaar wink
    screwed up the former McFault for the "swamp" failure.
    “.. Putin has now strengthened his point of view. It will be a long, very long confrontational struggle with Russia, and it can last at least until Putin leaves the post of leader. ”
    So he barks, or maybe he - ... he ate mushrooms wassat it happens ...
  43. anti-beetles
    anti-beetles 8 July 2014 18: 13
    0
    Article + was especially pleased with the picture, ours will be abruptly !!
  44. alexandr-budarin1
    alexandr-budarin1 8 July 2014 18: 16
    0
    Whom the Americans "threw" was Alexander II to Alaska. I think there will be no more such rulers wake up. If our president returns Alaska as Crimea, then only the "C" states will remain from the United States and that's all, but the country will not wake up.
    Although Putin is already in history, Abama ... is simply the first black president.
  45. HAM
    HAM 8 July 2014 18: 54
    +1
    Military Council in FASHINGTON. Letter from Stirlitz Jr.
  46. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 8 July 2014 19: 55
    +2
    Quote: tolancop
    You need to beat not when you want, but when the blow will be the most painful. If amers close transit now, they will be forced to look for other ways, but they WILL have time to search. And if you send them when the withdrawal will physically begin, then the amers will have a scratchy comb: you need to pull the tail out, the track has covered itself, and TIME is running out ....

    Our leaders will bend, as always, for dollars, once again.
  47. scorpiosys
    scorpiosys 8 July 2014 20: 30
    0
    You have to be a complete idiot to compare small and vicious Poland with huge Russia. And this comparison is pleasing, if they say what they think (in this particular case), then no god will help them with their bad heads. And a monkey that just got off a tree and chopped off its tail cannot restore order even in its harem (family), not like in the world. She knows how to dance, make faces, and sing in a hoarse voice into a microphone, slightly distinguishing it from a banana.
  48. Second
    Second 8 July 2014 21: 16
    +1
    The picture of Putin’s martial arts with Obama will begin.
    1) American cities are bombarded by artillery and tanks.
    2) American militias choke on tank tracks and are shot by multiple launch rocket systems.
    3) There is a systematic destruction of American women and children.
    4) Torture, organ removal, etc. are used against American militias.
    5) Genocide of the American population is carried out.
    6) American cities are under siege without medicines, electricity, water, food.
    7) The expense of killed, mutilated, wounded Americans has long exceeded tens of thousands.
    8) For Americans, filtration camps are being created.
    So, the picture of Putin’s struggle with Obama implies this text.
    1. scorpiosys
      scorpiosys 8 July 2014 22: 08
      +1
      An interesting table and the main thing without tricks, and as any verbiage, such as Kurginyan, has already gotten. Oh, these masters of stage and garbage! But we can write simply and clearly when we want.
  49. klavyr
    klavyr 8 July 2014 21: 57
    0
    The former ambassador to Russia believes that the Ukrainian crisis is a direct result of Putin’s actions.
    - it is in America: the more incredible a lie, the sooner they will believe in it fool
  50. scorpiosys
    scorpiosys 8 July 2014 22: 38
    0
    Putin rebelled against Obama ... A normal person, he won’t write like that. How tired these loudspeakers are in their high words. Either their polishers help people with disabilities, then the monitors monitor the contingent, then people want to be comfortable, then they need to de-escalate, then the TUGARS attack Russia, then they say that we should be tolerant. The Russian language is taught and most importantly textbooks are written, teaching us all sorts of languages: Ginzburg, Goldvas Sery, Gimmelfarba, Gottfreindy, Gotgilfy, Hirschs, Gershenzons, Hirschbeyns, Gershevichy, Gitelmany, Groysy, Humpbacked, Naked and other Humpbacked, ......