Reports from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich 5-6 July 2014 of the year

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Reports from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich 5-6 July 2014 of the year


Yesterday at 12: 56

ARMY BESOV. So they are fighting ... (VIDEO 18 +)


Fun fascists. These are the videos that the Ukrainian military are now bragging on each other on maydanovsky resources. And they brag about who killed more "quilted jackets" and "Colorado". Ukrainian tank crews have something to brag about, they kill with their whole families ...

In the video, profanity and heavy footage of the result of the genocide ukrofashistami, nervous not to watch!



Yesterday at 13: 07

Message from the militia


"In the area of ​​Karlovka and on the outskirts of the Donetsk airport there are battles. In 12: 35 in Moscow, a couple of sushyk from the upper front launched the NARov at the Donetsk airport. According to some sources, the evening came to night, the airport came under the control of the DPR, this information is being verified and checked. "

Yesterday at 13: 12

Message from Pavel Gubarev


“Igor Ivanovich Strelkov decided to leave Slavyansk. This was realized at night. The militia’s losses are minimal. The militia forces organized and cohesively stepped in the direction of Kramatorsk, then the redeployment will continue, apparently to Gorlovka and Donetsk. By doing so, we win time while ukry are redeploying personnel and artillery calculations (ukr "fight" mainly by shelling in peaceful cities). This time can be effectively used to complete the process of uniting the militia, centralizing them under a single command, ulu to build the quality of communications and communications of troops, to strengthen the supply of troops, especially heavy weapons (artillery and armored vehicles).

Kutuzov also departed, and this was the plan. In general, the Russian depart only before the decisive victorious battle.

Now we need to strengthen the humanitarian support of Donbass. Refugees on the border with Russia for yesterday passed more than the entire last month. "

Yesterday at 13: 26

Message from the militia


Our friend, the militia Dmitry, is still at the front line in Slavyansk with his comrades, he said that the city was under the full control of the militia and commented on the delusional statements of the president of the former Ukraine:

"We suggest that Petro Poroshenko personally hang the flag ... and let the pure take with them, the Slavs have a tradition to bury even enemies, but in clean linen. Khazarin damn."

According to the approximate data of eyewitnesses and the Ukrainian media, 2 were driven along the highway from Slavyansk tank, three KAMAZ, armored personnel carriers and 15 passenger cars with militias. Later information came that they were in Kramatorsk, near the headquarters of the defense.

At night, there really was the movement of militia groups and equipment for operational necessity. There were battles and the transfer of large detachments.

Yesterday at 14: 28

Igor Ivanovich’s comment on attitudes towards Putin


"... Moreover, the fact that during a real war (who wants it, or does not want it — no matter what, it is already going) warms me up) my public speeches are being used as an" ideological bomb "aimed against the current government. wrote and I will repeat again: By taking the Crimea, Putin started the revolution from above. This process is going very, very hard, with constant "wavering from side to side." But it goes. And if it is not supported now, then the failure will sweep him and the whole country.In addition, during the war, a rebellion against the commander in chief is tantamount to treason The "Guchkov-Milyukov-Lvov and Co way", which also embodied the insurrection in the name of "the salvation of Russia", led to what result. "

Yesterday at 15: 02

The message from places of events from eyewitnesses


“The cleaning of the Donetsk airport was practically completed by our militia. Today, the dill came to the aid of drying. 4 launching was carried out and left. The fight continues.
In the districts of Krasnoarmeysk-Donetsk, drying takes place, the St. George ribbons are apparently looking for roads. "

From the militia:

"In Nikolayevka there are serious destructions and a large number of victims. In the areas where after the battles the national parks are stationed, the population is being expelled from the areas of residence.
In Slavyansk and other cities of resistance is the redeployment of the militia forces. Information about the complete abandonment of Slavyansk is not yet confirmed, there is a redeployment of forces. I draw attention to the connection with Slavyansk almost no, any statement about the actions of the militia in the areas of the database, where there is no connection, at least, is subject to doubt before the on-line image. In the morning there were shelling from the south side of Red Kliman closer to the Raygorodka. The situation is hard but not critical. "

Yesterday at 15: 17

Message from an ordinary militia from Krasnodon


"The sniper, a former Afghan, who participated in the battle last night, when the junta tried to break into Krasnodon, completely foreign.

Says that ukry or stoned in the trash were, or even under some kind of buzz, in general, everything was like in the movie about the Second World War, where the Fritz walked to their full height and poured water from the hips in front of them. They had no instinct for self-preservation at all. One to one, like in the movies, he said. They walked without bending at all. He only put three. Losses at the junta in the staff there were non-acidic. Well, the tanks on our side then also turned on and threw the junta back.

Today, before lunch, it was audible how our howitzers worked along the junta, it is a pity that they are very few. It's a lull now. "

Yesterday at 17: 12

Message from the militia


"On the Azov coast, the DPR saboteurs destroyed the Ukrainian border observation post. 5 July from 01: 20 to 02: 15 fighters made heavy fire at the observation point on the coast of the Azov Sea in the Donetsk region."

In the photo, what remains of the ukropskogo fortifications.




Yesterday at 18: 06

Summary of the LC militia


The army of LNR destroyed the enemy's armored personnel carriers at IL-76 and 7 airports.

Throughout yesterday, the enemy fired intensive artillery and mortar fire at the settlements of Aleksandrovsk and Bolshaya Vergunka. Later in the evening, units of the Ukrainian army, including tanks, tried to dig in the area of ​​Krasny Yar, but were driven out by units of the army of the LC. In response, Ukrainian troops attacked Luhansk positions from Grad volley fire systems. The actions of the ground forces of the aggressor covered three MI 24 helicopters.

Then the Ukrainian army attempted to attack the city from three directions: Krasny Yar, Metalist, Aleksandrovka. All attacks were successfully repulsed by the army of LC. The enemy lost two howitzers, mortar crew and about thirty people dead.

For their part, the Luhansk side carried out a successful operation in the area of ​​the Lugansk airport, which is in the hands of the enemy's airmobile units. The enemy was fired from heavy mortars and Grad multiple rocket launchers, losing the 76-7 ZU, one anti-aircraft gun, five cars and about a hundred fighters, located in the vicinity of the IL-23 airport, 2 BTR, mortar crew.

The situation near Sverdlovsk remains moderately tense, the enemy is actively shelling the city center, the soldiers of the Ukrainian army are engaged in looting and are constantly drunk.

Yesterday at 18: 12

Message from the press service of the LC


"Provocations are being prepared.
According to the operational headquarters of the Lugansk battalion "Dawn", in the villages bordering the Russian Federation: Kruzhilovka, Davydo-Nikolskoye, Parkhomenko a provocation is being prepared by the nat. guard The headquarters became aware of the sabotage groups, dressed in the form of the militia with St. George ribbons, which can make bombardment of the above villages with mortars in order to undermine confidence in the defenders of the LC! Also, the Headquarters does not exclude the possibility that the blame for the provocation will be transferred to the Russian army! "

Yesterday at 18: 36

Message from the militia


"The Slavic garrison was distributed between Donetsk, Kramatorsk and Enakievo.
There are a lot of Slavs in Donetsk, thousands. According to some reports, arrests have already taken place in the Donetsk Regional State Administration.
A large number of foreign correspondents. And this is very good. We need the truth.
The airport seems to be at the moment with us. It is currently under fire from dill from the air. From the leadership of the DPR in Donetsk only Purgin.
All the rest (Pushilin, Borodai, etc.) for some reason in Moscow.
I think that soon we will witness significant changes in Donetsk and in the Donetsk region. "

Yesterday at 19: 38

Message from the journalist


RIA correspondent News reports that he saw Igor Strelkov in one of the administrative buildings in Gorlovka, everything is in order. In the city there are also units that were stationed in Slavyansk, some of which are already in Donetsk. Currently, the situation in Gorlovka is calm.

Yesterday at 19: 57

Statement by Alexander Borodaya


"The troops of the DPR, given the exorbitant numerical superiority of the Ukrainian security forces, were forced to leave their former positions on the northern sector of the front and go to the previously prepared ones.
Our troops organized and, retaining the personnel and weapons, entrenched on reserve defensive lines. We were ready for this option, because we have to confront the group of several tens of thousands of people and hundreds of armored vehicles - that is, almost the entire combat-ready Ukrainian army.
Our troops continue to fight, the morale is high, and we are confident in our strength. "

Yesterday at 20: 50

Message from the militia Alexander Zhuchkovsky


The name of the second volunteer who died in Slavyansk from St. Petersburg has become known. His name is Matthew Efremov. He left a wife and three children. In the near future we will meet with them to tell about what happened and provide assistance.

2 July, I wrote that on this day, Matvey and Vladimir died in an unequal battle while moving from Slavyansk to Semenovka, covering the departure of their comrades.

Eternal memory to the fallen heroes.



The volunteer who died in Slavyansk. Eternal memory to the fallen heroes.



The deceased volunteer Vladimir Melnikov (pictured second from left) had no one left, he lived alone. Before the county in Novorossia, he left his documents and a large amount of money to his friends, asking that in case of his death the funds should be spent for the benefit of the militia.

Yesterday at 21: 40

Summary of places in the last hours


Donetsk is relatively calm now.
18: 35 (ISC) For several hours already, artillery has been operating from Karachun in some areas of Slavyansk. In Krasnodon, in the direction of the quarry, a couple of dryers worked Over the Red Lyman was a couple.
During the fighting near the airport in Lugansk, IL-76, 7 armored personnel carriers, mortar crews, anti-aircraft guns, five enemy vehicles and more national guard companies were destroyed.
19: 45 (MSC) In Lugansk, in the area of ​​Metalist - Happiness, loud breaks are heard.
20: 00 (MSC) Slavyansk: Partly Artyom, Lesnoy, Severny, Tselinnaya - heavy artillery is fired, by this time more than a hundred shots. In the city you can hear automatic shooting.

PS Comment from the militia.

There is such a thing as a military trick; A lot of things that can not be announced, is now happening in the field of hostilities. Maybe time will come and much will be revealed and revealed. At one time, Kutuzov left Moscow in order to break it into Napoleon’s head. Motorola, Babay, Strelkov are alive; Yes, whatever it may sound, it was decided to leave Slavyansk, the main reason is the salvation of the civilian population. The fact is that the Ukropovskiy night and morning shelling of Slavyansk from the MLRS seriously threatened the remaining population in Slavyansk. The fact that the Ukrainian fascists created with Nikolayevka could really be repeated with Slavyansk. However, in the place of the fascists, I would not be calm in the walls and on the streets of Slavyansk, soon it will reach them.
Now it is really important to save as many lives of Donbassians and militias as possible; human life, it is human, not fascist - the most valuable. The redeployment is almost complete and the main battles are still to come, the victory will be ours, for Novorossia!

Yesterday at 22: 17

Important message from the militia headquarters


"The commander of the DPR army, Igor Strelkov, who in the morning of 5 July as part of the group escaped from the city of Slavyansk surrounded by the Ukrainian military, did not distribute any statements on social networks today.
Any posts on social networks on his behalf, dated July 5, are stuffing of misinformation. "

Yesterday at 23: 18

Message from the militia


“They are asking questions about ATGMs, which demonstrated dill in the Slavyansk occupied by them. They were overdue, therefore they were not used and left as garbage during the retreat. All the guided missiles left the sky. , but literally ten minutes before the column arrived, an order came to redeploy to the block in front of Slavyansky. The PTR and Utes calculations were holding up on the block. When they arrived, they turned around and fired a volley, all the missiles went to the sky. the field, then the tanks would have turned around the moment, and the whole department was minced. The other day Strelkov reported 20 defective RPG-18, but with ATGM the same story“It’s just a shameful thing with them - so much ukropsky armor could be burned if they were brand new."

Today in 0: 00

Overview of the combat situation of the militia


22: 30 (MSC) Virgin burns, maneuverable battles take place, Rex guys work. According to unspecified data, there are several dill tanks on the outskirts of Kramatorsk, they do not enter the city, they are probably waiting for the delivery of ports. As before, in areas of the database there are serious interruptions in communication.
23: 05 (MSC) From the side of Galitsinovka and Zhelanny they beat Karlovka, the artillery cannonade is very intense.
23: 15 (MSC) From the Izyum direction towards the Red Firth there is artillery fire, on the outskirts of the Red Firth something is burning.

Today in 0: 36

Interview Strelkov Igor Ivanovich


Text version:

"At night, a breakthrough was made from Slavyansk, located in the ring of the Ukrainian army. For this, a diversionary attack on enemy positions was organized. It was carried out by our armored group. Most of it, unfortunately, was killed. This is due to the group commander's mistake. 80% of the personnel and 90% of the armaments were taken out of the city, families of servicemen and people sympathizing with the militia, for whom it was mortally dangerous to remain in the city, were evacuated.

Before the breakthrough, camouflage measures were organized: part of the militia fired continuous fire and showed the enemy its presence in positions.

On July 7, I intend to create by my order a Central Military Council, which will include all the largest field commanders. In this body, we will coordinate the issues of further defense of the DPR and, possibly, parts of the LPR. In addition, I intend to carry out all his duties as well as assume the role of commander of the garrison before appointing the military commander of Donetsk. The national guard recoups the civilians of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and Artemovsk for their numerous losses. In md Artem is a massacre. This once again confirms that people who believe that if the militia leaves without a fight, it will save them from repression, they are cruelly mistaken. "

Today in 1: 17

Comment from Dmitry Steshin


Dill do not understand the difference between "surrendered" and "gone." This Paulus passed, and Strelkov left. And with ukropskoy armored vehicles. But left surprises :)
As I predicted, with the onset of darkness in the city, battles began with the abandoned RDG - 2 grenade launcher, sniper + carrier-signaler. Across Slavyansk, ukrobrontekhnika is quickly worn, which local people for some reason did not meet with flowers for some reason during the day. Generally did not meet. Bummer. The buildings of the Security Service of Ukraine, the City Council and the Central Internal Affairs Directorate didn’t occupy the ukry, for they are a little familiar with the history of the Second World War, they were looking for land mines-surprises from Strelka.
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  1. +61
    6 July 2014 09: 02
    Dill is dedicated !!!He was a killer during his lifetime.
    His cruelty is glorified.
    With a sword, he chopped heads,
    And he himself was beheaded in the forest.
    He died the death of the executioner,
    For all the sins that he committed.
    Killed by his sword
    With whom the infernal court ruled.
    1. +7
      6 July 2014 09: 13
      Too shy to ask, are you talking about?
      1. +5
        6 July 2014 09: 41
        Headless horseman based on the film Sleepy Hollow
        1. +6
          6 July 2014 12: 52
          Do not quite understand why the cons? This is an excerpt from the poem on the film and can be found on prose.ru.
          With the fact that it is suitable for some "neighbors" I do not argue.
          1. +20
            6 July 2014 23: 11
            how are the "liberators" greeted by the Ukrainian ... army in Kramatorsk ...
            1. +1
              6 July 2014 23: 25
              Quote: cosmos111
              how are the "liberators" greeted by the Ukrainian ... army in Kramatorsk ...


              Fighters for the truth of the people do not hide, unlike ...
            2. +3
              7 July 2014 00: 00
              But I'm not sure that this is the month of July, the greens on the trees are too rare, and its color is spring, April or May at best
              1. 0
                7 July 2014 01: 53
                Quote: Sergey777
                But I'm not sure that this is the month of July

                "+" for attentiveness ... Poplars are practically "naked", and they are very often covered with foliage.
                By video:
                Men in jackets (albeit light), youth in tracksuits, women in sweaters ...
                Although yesterday and the day before day, the temperature in Kramatorsk rose above the 23 city.

                There is a LITTLE DISEASE, but there is no such anger as now after all the events ...

                We will be objective, Cameroon! Video two months ago ... hi
            3. yarvol
              +3
              8 July 2014 17: 46
              Video shot in April. Why should people slip a misinformation. Now they are met differently.
            4. 0
              8 July 2014 19: 40
              Ordinary fascism, Romm also made a film about these scumbags
        2. avg
          +2
          6 July 2014 17: 10
          In this case - "Tankers without a head". So far allegorically, but judging by their behavior, it will soon become a reality.
          1. +3
            6 July 2014 18: 17
            This is already a reality, because if they had their heads they would not shoot at peaceful people!
          2. +1
            6 July 2014 22: 50
            High, definitely.
      2. +30
        6 July 2014 10: 25
        Quote: tanit
        Too shy to ask, are you talking about?

        It says, Dill is dedicated, it means about dill, the grass is like that. And there is parsley. In Kiev, a new variety has grown, chocolate. Autumn wilted ... wink
        1. +2
          6 July 2014 10: 47
          It painfully embarrassed the text. It seems like dill. And the article is about I.I. Strelkova.
          1. +2
            6 July 2014 11: 35
            When "ya.seliwerstov2013 (1)" posted his comment, there were no words "dedicated to dill".
            1. Apex
              -4
              6 July 2014 17: 19
              PUTIN - A NATIONAL TRAITOR:


              SHOCKING TRUTH ON NUCLEAR POWER OF RUSSIA - STEPAN DEMUR


              (Stepan Demura graduated from the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT) with honors.)


      3. +1
        6 July 2014 10: 50
        Do not be shy to answer, about those who are not looking for the truth only lies. You do not recognize yourself?
      4. The comment was deleted.
      5. +1
        6 July 2014 13: 01
        It says to whom it is dedicated.
        1. 0
          6 July 2014 17: 53
          It says that it is dedicated to those who want to be deceived. Who is ready to believe that is consonant with his concepts, and concepts like an old site are not updated with knowledge. Why look, why ponder, is that hard to say? Please, seek the truth, reflect, do not be self-confident. Only thanks to Putin’s policies in the border zone haven’t the Nazis slaughtered us yet, and you don’t have fascist attacks. Do not spit in the well from where you drink water. Nick is this for you.
          1. +1
            6 July 2014 18: 45
            Nick I'm sorry, this is a dull tanit
          2. 0
            6 July 2014 18: 54
            Quote: cloud
            Nick is this for you.

            I ask for "you". We didn’t drink at brotherhood.
            Quote: cloud
            It says that it is dedicated to those who want to be deceived. Who is ready to believe that is consonant with his concepts, and concepts like an old site are not updated with knowledge. Why look, why ponder, is that hard to say? Please, seek the truth, reflect, do not be self-confident. Only thanks to Putin’s policies in the border zone haven’t the Nazis slaughtered us yet,

            Express your thoughts clearly, nothing is clear from your stream of scraps of thoughts. Learn to spell out clearly.
            1. +4
              6 July 2014 22: 32
              Nick please excuse my disrespectful tone.

              I will try to clearly explain my scattered thoughts:
              tanit in a clearly stated appeal (dedicated to dill !!!) introduced doubts: dill or ...
              Those who sow doubt are scary people.
              If they do not intentionally do this, they are mistaken, they have a way out — to work in the knowledge of the issue.
              And if they deliberately sow doubt ... this is Satan's tactic.
              In any case, their doubts cannot be shared. And it will be more correct to look at a reality that is not in doubt.
              Who is he casting a shadow on?
              On Strelkova II, so his honor is not debatable, not subject to doubt, he proved it with his life.
              On Putin V.V. here it will be more correct to look at the reality in which we live.
              I live in the border zone and really appreciate the protection, believe me, I know what I'm writing about. His intentions to protect people are not in doubt.
              So why did tanit cast a shadow of doubt, pretending not to understand the words (Dill is sanctified !!!)?
              It's simple: sow doubt, reap the destruction of faith.
              She wrote tanit in the hope that he did not intentionally do it.
              Nick, sorry again.
              1. 0
                7 July 2014 21: 02
                Quote: cloud
                Nick, sorry again.

                Accepted, Next time, be more careful in the comments, otherwise ambiguities appear that can be interpreted in different ways.
                Sincerely ...
            2. The comment was deleted.
            3. 0
              6 July 2014 23: 24
              Quote: Nick
              Express your thoughts clearly, nothing is clear from your stream of scraps of thoughts. Learn to spell out clearly.

              Your phrase must be entered in the annals of the Armed Forces Charter.
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      8. 0
        6 July 2014 23: 13
        Judging by your flag, ya.seliwerstov2013 (1) did not think anything about your President, we respect him.
    2. +16
      6 July 2014 09: 20
      Yes ... Somehow it’s bad at heart ...
      1. +11
        6 July 2014 11: 20
        Quote: Oprychnik
        Yes ... Somehow it’s bad at heart ...

        I agree, and you are not alone here! And these Ukropovskie warriors in armor are just piss, that's why they are trying to joke. But the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already "nudged" so much that there is no way to watch news from the southeast without tears!
        1. portoc65
          +6
          6 July 2014 11: 40
          Slavyansk was left but dill fired on it all night .. They are cleaning the local population right now.
      2. Gloria45
        +23
        6 July 2014 14: 31
        Wrong word! Just unbearable more! It feels like it's me
        burned alive in Odessa, it tore me to shreds with a bomb in Lugansk,
        they shoot me every day in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Donetsk and
        in all other cities and towns! Moreover, all these murderers and indifferent beasts arrange songs and dances on my grave! Yesterday talked
        with two of those who are convinced that there is no Russian genocide
        in Ukraine, and even if there is, is that really a problem? If I had
        at that moment something firearms would have flunked for sure, without hesitation!
        1. suomi76
          -17
          6 July 2014 16: 44
          So it’s business. The western border in Ukraine is not blocked. Air France planes land in Boryspil every day. Packed things and forward the creatures who are indifferent to fill up.
          Or is it better to live in a geyropa than in the Republic of New Russia, is it?
          And in Monaco, it’s good, in general, to visit once.
          1. Gloria45
            +14
            6 July 2014 17: 41
            Quote: suomi76
            So it’s business. The western border in Ukraine is not blocked. Air France planes land in Boryspil every day. Packed things and forward the creatures who are indifferent to fill up.
            Or is it better to live in a geyropa than in the Republic of New Russia, is it?
            And in Monaco, it’s good, in general, to visit once.


            You know, I don’t like Monaco, although I have to go there quite often.
            And why did you decide that I live well in Europe? As for Air France, I prefer to use the services of Aeroflot,
            this is so, by the way. And the opportunity to help
            I find people here not only financially, but also to bring the true state of things to everyone who has eyes, ears and brains. And let me give you advice when I personally ask you about it, although this is unlikely,
            The site has more interesting interlocutors. Good luck to you.
            1. suomi76
              -10
              6 July 2014 18: 00
              Thank you for your wishes.
              Having lived in the EU, I saw many Russians who, having fallen from the Russian Federation, became terrible patriots. Not finding recognition from the surrounding society, they began to oppose themselves to him, well, like we’ll soon drive tanks here, we’ll build all of you bastards. Nevertheless, we continued to live in Munich. Or in Suomi.
              1. Gloria45
                +4
                6 July 2014 18: 22
                I do not see the need to continue the dialogue with you.
                1. suomi76
                  -8
                  6 July 2014 18: 33
                  So to the point. tongue
                  Well then be.
                  1. Gloria45
                    +5
                    6 July 2014 18: 39
                    Amazing insight! Judge, give advice, etc., etc. without knowing the person!
                    To see this is all that you are capable of, as a rule, losers in real life behave this way, they assert themselves virtually. But don’t be upset, maybe
                    and you will be lucky someday.
                    1. suomi76
                      -11
                      6 July 2014 20: 28
                      You do not see the need to continue, so am I right?
                      I saw a lot of such people. Mostly taxi drivers or women in Munich as Wc administrators, well, they say it at the exit bitte. They are very angry with the Germans. But they continue to sit tightly on the feltland.
                      They do not return to their native Ust-Kurzhopinsk.
                      And by the way, the lucky ones in real life undoubtedly languish in a geyropa surrounded by killers and indifferent creatures. wink
                2. 0
                  6 July 2014 21: 00
                  and pralno! not that interlocutor.
              2. +6
                6 July 2014 20: 59
                Who gave you the right to speak for all Russian emigrants?
                1. suomi76
                  -9
                  6 July 2014 21: 50
                  I will answer you with your own quote_NiAri nonsense hysterics.
                  1. +1
                    6 July 2014 22: 16
                    An amusing specimen - apparently, believes that it is cool, obviously hamovat, and, no doubt, - la chenille.
                    1. suomi76
                      -8
                      6 July 2014 22: 35
                      And then. Of course cool. I work in telecommunications, the competition is high.
                      It’s not for you to twist your cap with 25 years.
                      1. 0
                        7 July 2014 01: 46
                        Quote: suomi76
                        It’s not for you to twist your cap with 25 years.

                        Not a military engineer, an electronic engineer. In the West I agree, you can work. But, what prevents working at Home?
                      2. suomi76
                        0
                        7 July 2014 21: 21
                        If about me, then nothing. I work from the Motherland a hundred kilometers south, in St. Petersburg.
                      3. 0
                        7 July 2014 02: 09
                        Thanks for the presentation! Your identification is complete.
                        Put the pens on the mouse, open the tab in the browser with a link to "VO" and wait. Later you will read what will be written in the "pink window" ...
                        Good luck!
                      4. suomi76
                        0
                        7 July 2014 21: 00
                        Yes, fate has not inflicted such a blow to me yet.
              3. +2
                7 July 2014 02: 02
                Quote: suomi76
                Having lived in the EU, I saw many Russians who dumped from the Russian Federation became terrible patriots.

                I confirm - they became. Only on the contrary, they were not SCARY, but comprehensible to those around them, and everyone was aware of something in post-war and the former attitude to Russia as a HOMELAND.
                Quote: suomi76
                Not finding recognition from the surrounding society, they began to oppose themselves to it, well, like ours will soon be coming here on tanks, we will build all of you bastards.

                There was no such thing. Against the background of those coming from Africa from Asia or BV. The Russians look more than dignified and certainly command respect from the "natives".
                Exceptions are units of marginalized personalities. For which the prison is crying. Of course NATIVE, Russian ...

                Shl. He did not live in Munich, but once went on excursions and a couple of times for work ... And he lived for fifteen years in the same place, "side by side", only to the north.
                1. suomi76
                  0
                  7 July 2014 21: 18
                  Yes, they did. A month ago, a taxi got off the ferry to Hki from the station, a taxi. Well, it started, they don’t like us here, taxes are high, and so on. etc. I ask, why don’t you come back to us, so I shut up, I was offended.
                  Regarding respect. Well, for example, the familiar manager of the Lidla recruits Somalis, but there are no Russians. They talk a little, work a little, and often get sick on Monday.
              4. 0
                7 July 2014 03: 23
                Quote: suomi76
                Thank you for your wishes.
                Having lived in the EU, I saw many Russians who, having fallen from the Russian Federation, became terrible patriots. Not finding recognition from the surrounding society, they began to oppose themselves to him, well, like we’ll soon drive tanks here, we’ll build all of you bastards. Nevertheless, we continued to live in Munich. Or in Suomi.



                I know a lot of such people and a miraculous miracle, all Jews from Ukraine are like one, but such patriots became foxes ... but as we understand it is more comfortable to live with a circle of Bavarian pivas than with Kalash in a trench.
    3. +33
      6 July 2014 09: 28
      Quote: Reports from Strelkova
      At 12:35 Moscow time, a pair of dryers from the upper front launched NARs at Donetsk airport. According to some reports, in the evening by nightfall, the airport came under the control of the DPR, this information is being clarified and verified. "


      I confirm with us for two days, mainly in the late evening and night shootings. Sounds of machine guns, machine guns chattering and 30mm gun shots or something like that. In the morning I heard two explosions in the airport area, apparently it was the entry of Sushek.
      The National Guard was first pushed to the airport building and to the hangars, and then these premises were cleaned up. During the day everything calmed down and this night in the airport area was quiet. A lot of armed militias appeared in Donetsk.

      By the way, at about the same time, at night and in the morning at the Lugansk airport, the special forces of the National Guard that had settled there were fired at from mortars and from the Grad. Apparently, both attacks on airports were coordinated in advance.
      1. +11
        6 July 2014 12: 06
        When will the trophy air defense regiment start working ??? Yes, and the "gophers" that recently drove through Luhansk, you can't even hear anything, and the dryers are spilling with NARs (Of the 248 Artyomovsk tanks, only two reached Slavyansk? It seems that the main reason for the retreat is the lack of equipment in working order and qualified crews the column, as elsewhere, is a mess underfoot.
      2. 0
        8 July 2014 15: 54
        Militias and volunteers are invincible. Shooter hero.
    4. +32
      6 July 2014 09: 59
      Curious post! From http://ivanoctober.livejournal.com/
      Tonight in Donetsk for moles and rats will be Bartholomew’s night

      According to some reports, it has already begun. According to my information, one of the main reasons why Strelkov decided to break through from Slavyansk was that it was high time for Donetsk to clean from the fifth column that was settled there. I won’t even give any names, so it’s clear, right? Here is the first thing you managed to find out.

      Message from Donetsk:
      The Slavic garrison was distributed between Donetsk, Kramatorsk and Enakievo.
      In Donetsk, there are a lot of Slavs, thousands. Arrests have already passed in the Donetsk Regional State Administration.
      The detainees were taken out. More cleaning is coming. A large number of foreign
      correspondents. And this is very good. We need the truth.
      The airport is with us. Currently, it is being fired from the air.
      From the leadership of the DPR in Donetsk, only Purgin.
      All the rest (Pushilin, Borodai, etc.) for some reason in Moscow.
      I think that soon we will witness significant changes
      in Donetsk and in the Donetsk region. Hope positive.

      And this is about Lugansk, it turns out, not everyone knows.

      throughout yesterday, the enemy conducted intense artillery and mortar fire at the settlements of Aleksandrovsk and Bolshaya Vergunka. Toward evening, units of the Ukrainian army, including tanks, tried to entrench themselves in the Krasniy Yar region, but were knocked out by units of the LPR army. In response, Ukrainian troops attacked the positions of Luhansk from Grad multiple launch rocket systems. The actions of the aggressor ground forces covered three MI 24 helicopters.
      Then the Ukrainian army attempted to attack the city from three directions: Krasny Yar, Metalist, Aleksandrovka. All attacks were successfully repulsed by the army of LC. The enemy lost two howitzers, mortar crew and about thirty people dead.
      For their part, the Luhansk side carried out a successful operation in the area of ​​the Lugansk airport, which is in the hands of the enemy's airmobile units. The enemy was fired from heavy mortars and Grad multiple rocket launchers, losing the 76-7 ZU, one anti-aircraft gun, five cars and about a hundred fighters, located in the vicinity of the IL-23 airport, 2 BTR, mortar crew.
      The situation near Sverdlovsk remains moderately tense, the enemy is actively shelling the city center, the soldiers of the Ukrainian army are engaged in looting and are constantly drunk.

      Important addition from a fighter:

      "Kramatorsk was left the same as Slavyansk. The shooter is personally in Gorlovka with Bes. Motorola is left in Donetsk to deal with moles. There will be military courts. Pushilin will not return to Donetsk from Moscow. According to information that still needs confirmation, Khodakovsky with the guard left the location of the Vostok battalion. The shooter with Bes in Gorlovka will decide the issue of a single military commander. "

      “I’m in Donetsk at the SBU. We were driving to Kramatorsk under fire. They hit the mines by mistake - we drove into the area where our mortars were operating and were hit by a response. The mine exploded under the Kamaz of another group of ours and they had to go on foot. There were no spare places at all. They didn’t give up a heavy weapon and they have a lot of respect for that. Two women who were traveling with us were wounded. One heavy in the stomach, the other light in the leg. Two of ours got off with minor contusions. There are 4 holes in my loaf from fragments. It's a miracle that No one was hooked. Tanks and MLRS were hitting on the column. Direct hits - one car. From Kramatorsk to Donetsk we got quietly. "
      1. +7
        6 July 2014 10: 19
        Quote: Sid.74
        Tonight in Donetsk for moles and rats will be Bartholomew’s night

        Interesting information! Not everything is as simple as it seems ............ Thank you!
        1. +18
          6 July 2014 11: 11
          Quote: nycsson
          . The shooter personally in Gorlovka near Bes.
          Key words: In Donetsk, now there are 2 groups. One is the Strelka and Bes detachments, the other is "Oplot", "Sokol", "Vostok". Will they kill each other or negotiate? After all, "Sokol", "Oplot", "Vostok" Akhmetov's formations, financed by him, which means, in fact, they will have to conduct a dialogue with Akhmetov. The situation there is worthless ......... There is also such a character in Lugansk as Efremov, the secret owner of Lugansk say, Bolotov was his man, as now I don’t know It’s also vague somehow. A lot of something incomprehensible. I got the impression that there’s no "Russian idea" there, money is voyuyut. And there is a lot of criminal money.
          1. +6
            6 July 2014 11: 40
            Quote: baltika-18
            The shooter personally in Gorlovka near Bes.
            Keywords. In Donetsk now it turns out 2 groupings.

            No, not key! That's all for yesterday, Shooter after that moved to Donetsk!
            Quote: baltika-18
            One detachments of Strelka and Bes, the other is "Oplot", "Falcon", "Vostok".

            Khadokovsky has escaped from the East! I think now Matorola will be a field commander there!
            But the Bastion and the Falcon the devil knows! Let's see, time will tell, it’s a good idea to guess on the coffee grounds!
            1. +11
              6 July 2014 13: 29
              Quote: Sid.74
              ! That's all for yesterday, Shooter after that moved to Donetsk!
              Let it be. There are a lot of questions, it doesn't matter. With the Akhmetov groups, it is clear who is behind them, what are they actually defending. The Strelka and Bes groups, who is behind them, it is not clear what they want in the end, it is also unclear what kind of DNR they want to see? they are not worth Moscow, that's for sure, I'm sure of that. For Putin at the moment these guys are like a bone in his throat, for him the best option if they weren't there. Moscow is trying to play there, but extremely awkwardly. At consultations during the truce , the interests of Russia were represented by Medvedchuk and Shufrich. But the personalities of the negotiators: Medvedchuk, there is a catch phrase about him, "if you want to fail the case, entrust Medvedchuk," but Shufrich, in principle, is Timoshenko's man. There is a game in Ukraine, Yulia is not a shit yet deflated and trying to get in and influence the situation.
              The scruffy there is terrible. All of this will end badly. And finally:
              Konstantin Dolgov, Representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs: "The military phase of the conflict will end in a few weeks. At the same time, it will take much longer to resolve social, humanitarian and political problems."
              VTB and Sberbank of Russia gathered to participate (filed applications) in the repurchase of bonds of a military loan of Ukraine in the amount of 1 billion hryvnia.
              What is it? Think guys.
              1. -19
                6 July 2014 15: 43
                Why think? Strelka-Girkin was barred from entering Russia for five years. How will he survive them and will there even be a big question.
                1. s1н7т
                  +5
                  6 July 2014 17: 19
                  Quote: Motors1991
                  Arrow-Girkin was barred from entering Russia for five years.

                  A citizen of the Russian Federation was blocked from entering the Russian Federation ?! It smacks of delirium.
                  1. -21
                    6 July 2014 19: 02
                    Not only to him, you are aware that Russia has closed several border crossings and border guards are shooting bandiuk when they try to return to their homeland, such detachments so that Girkin could have fun fighting. Today, the entrance to Lugandon (in your New Russia) is a ruble, and the exit is already not two, but all ten. Girkin’s misfortune, that he is a doctrinaire, the war is lost, and he is ready to fight to the end, although he understands that he wasn’t just betrayed, sold. In another war he wouldn’t have a price, but now he’ll just disappear and who needs to be taken care of. Napoleons do not like, they are too dangerous for the current government.
                    1. +3
                      6 July 2014 19: 44
                      Quote: Motors1991
                      Not only to him, you are aware that Russia has closed several border crossings and border guards are shooting bandiuk when they try to return to their homeland, such detachments so that Girkin could have fun fighting. Today, the entrance to Lugandon (in your New Russia) is a ruble, and the exit is already not two, but all ten. Girkin’s misfortune, that he is a doctrinaire, the war is lost, and he is ready to fight to the end, although he understands that he wasn’t just betrayed, sold. In another war he wouldn’t have a price, but now he’ll just disappear and who needs to be taken care of. Napoleons do not like, they are too dangerous for the current government.

                      not everything is so simple! laughing
                    2. +6
                      6 July 2014 23: 07
                      Nonsense dill.
                      If Strelkov returns to Russia, they will carry him around Russia.
                    3. 0
                      8 July 2014 22: 36
                      Do not write nonsense, not a single power structure of the Russian Federation has an official or non-official order to shoot volunteers / you called them bandits / when crossing the border. Moreover, our border guards have a strict order to use weapons only as a last resort. All our border crossings are open, they work in normal mode, they are closed only in case of shelling from the Ukrainian side. However, the color of your flag says a lot, the swastika only needs to be finished.
                2. +1
                  6 July 2014 17: 36
                  Do not indicate the source?
                3. +6
                  6 July 2014 19: 09
                  Quote: Motors1991
                  Why think? Strelka-Girkin was barred from entering Russia for five years. How will he survive them and will there even be a big question.

                  by
                  Bolotov also seemed to have been banned, but it didn’t hinder him from getting injured to go to heal for a week in RUSSIA! and completely unhindered return in the opposite direction and continue to manage the LC tongue

                  By the way, according to the same version, the border should have been strengthened by the FSB and Nicago officers to push nowhere) and what! there are plenty of holes in the border to the village)) go shuddy shikoko get in there)))!
                  so here, even if you imagine that it’s true, then the grandmother said for two!)) they told this truth to Europe which she wanted to hear and we have our own truth Yes
                  so in politics say and do it completely different things! the couple would already get used to smile
                4. DPZ
                  +1
                  6 July 2014 21: 13
                  can the question be: where does the information that he was denied entry to Russia come from?
                  1. +1
                    7 July 2014 04: 16
                    Quote: DPZ
                    can the question be: where does the information that he was denied entry to Russia come from?


                    Well, such infa passed through the Ukrainian media for sure I can’t tell you where I have already seen I don’t remember), but our kind of info didn’t confirm, but they really didn’t and justified it, they simply didn’t notice it or didn’t consider it necessary to voice it like that!
                    but on the whole, it’s rather just another duck to the poem, and I referred to (if only for dacoba)
                    I am personally more confused by this information with the discharge of Putin novorosiya
                    http://dnr-news.com/dnr/1305-vozvraschenie-dzhedaya-vtoroe-rozhdenie-igorya-stre

                    lkova-i-panika-v-kremle.html
                    and if this is true, then with the rifleman, too, it may well turn out to be true recourse
                    and if this is indeed true, then I personally believe that this person (Putin) is more respectful and respectful of heaven, he really threw into the souls of people the hope of the revival of the Russian world, returned CRIMEA (for which of course many thanks) made such speeches and also to the bushes! I understand everything and the difficult political situation and the game according to other people's Amer
                    fetters the rules of the hands but the war is already going on, killing thousands of Russian people who believed in him and Russia! will be screwed already not received! and if he really merges the rifleman then it will be his personal collapse as commander in chief! voobshem I really hope that I am mistaken
              2. Evgeniy1
                +4
                6 July 2014 16: 51
                Check, and if the truth about the redemption of VTB and SB military loan BANDEROUKROPII for 1 billion hryvnia, then it is MANDATORY the leaders of banks UNDER COURT, and it is better to send to Slavyansk to Strelkov! A war loan for banderocropia IS BLOODY MONEY, MONEY FOR FASCISTS AND KILLERS !!! (with whom are you employees of state banks of Russia ?!)
                1. s1н7т
                  +2
                  6 July 2014 17: 23
                  Quote: Eugene1
                  Check, and if the truth about the redemption of VTB and SB military loan BANDEROUKROPII 1 billion hryvnia., ALWAYS MANDATORY bank leaders UNDER COURT

                  Banks are state-owned, not a step away from the top. So who will you check laughing
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              4. +1
                6 July 2014 18: 53
                Quote: baltika-18
                VTB and Sberbank of Russia gathered to participate (filed applications) in the repurchase of bonds of a military loan of Ukraine in the amount of 1 billion hryvnia.
                What is it? Think guys.

                What to think? And they want to earn money and solve the problem of New Russia, which they already have in their throats ...
          2. +2
            6 July 2014 12: 57
            Quote: baltika-18
            The shooter personally in Gorlovka near Bes.

            I do not quite understand the latest re-turbations. The demon was like arrested for rebellion? Or is he still our guy? I hope everyone understands the word OUR correctly?
            1. +1
              6 July 2014 23: 09
              Bezler OUR.
              No one arrested him.
              And the gossip is spread by Ukrainians ... from a great mind and little courage on the battlefield.
      2. +8
        6 July 2014 11: 55
        Always, even in the most difficult situations, one must not lose one’s presence of spirit, and many thanks to Strelkov for the competent and successful withdrawal of militias from Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.
      3. suomi76
        -12
        6 July 2014 17: 46
        If the DNI loses at least some legitimacy in the form of, albeit mmmshchika, but a citizen of Ukraine Pushilin, then the next day the UN assembly gene will be convened with an agenda citizen of the Russian Federation I. Girkin invaded with a gang of terrorists into the territory of the Ukrainian republic. After that, completely calmly razed Donetsk to the ground without even entering it.
        The purges and the military courts, for which so many advocate, will greatly contribute to this. For a citizen of the Russian Federation will have to sign orders on the execution of Ukrainian citizens. This will be called the genocide of the Ukrainian population by Russian terrorists.
        Nothing personal, just facts.
    5. Matroskin 18
      +19
      6 July 2014 10: 30
      There is such a thing as military cunning; a lot of things that cannot be voiced are happening now in the battlefields. Maybe the time will come and much will be revealed and revealed. At one time, Kutuzov left Moscow, then to smash his head

      I’m constantly talking about it, but they negate me as a leper!
      1. gog27
        -3
        6 July 2014 11: 05
        Be firm, brother! Minus for the truth, unless of course you are heart for the Renaissance of Russia!

        Interesting:
        http://vk.com/public61962155

        And the truth for today is this:
        http://sputnikipogrom.com/russia/novorossiya/15511/kremlin-we-have-a-problem-tho
        ose-russians-just-cannot-die /
        1. +1
          6 July 2014 12: 17
          Quote: gog27
          http://sputnikipogrom.com/

          A site for beginners Natsik, from such and raised Ukrainian. Their articles were already here.
          1. gog27
            0
            6 July 2014 12: 35
            Turn on your head a little ...
            Or is truth difficult to understand?
            1. -3
              6 July 2014 22: 12
              Quote: gog27
              Turn on your head a little ...
              Or is truth difficult to understand?

              kurginists do not have a brain at all, they have nothing to turn on.
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        3. +3
          6 July 2014 18: 37
          Quote: gog27
          And the truth for today is this:
          http://sputnikipogrom.com/russia/novorossiya/15511/kremlin-we-have-a-problem-tho

          ose-russians-just-cannot-die /


          This is panic, not truth.
          And if this is an attempt at informational provocation, then it’s very clumsy put together.
          Even the vile Novodvorskaya has verbal diarrhea better organized.
      2. +4
        6 July 2014 13: 00
        Quote: Matroskin 18
        I’m constantly talking about it, but they negate me as a leper!


        Spit and rub it, it’s not fatal, and even your image will not spoil. Well, let the banderlogs minus, their share is such, someone needs to strengthen us in our beliefs, so they do it involuntarily. laughing
      3. +5
        6 July 2014 13: 08
        Quote: Matroskin 18
        I’m constantly talking about it, but they negate me as a leper!

        Spit it out. Say what you think, but keep within yourself what can hurt each other. Laiki, a reason for pride, only pride is a grave sin what Well, in short, go son, and continue sinning Yes
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  2. +39
    6 July 2014 09: 02
    arrogant Saxons are happy and applaud ..! Bleed creatures Slavs .. well, remember everything
    1. +70
      6 July 2014 09: 04
      His body rotted in the grave
      In the damp earth, among worms.
      His soul was burning in hell
      In the shackles of fire chains.
    2. +5
      6 July 2014 10: 22
      Quote: MIKHAN
      arrogant Saxons are happy and applaud ..!

      They set a goal and successfully achieved it! Why shouldn’t they fertilize themselves ?!
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Slavs creatures poisoned .. well, remember everything

      Even more creatures are those who allowed it to be done! And soon they will answer for their deeds ....
      1. +1
        7 July 2014 00: 50
        Brzezinski, being an adviser to the White House at George W. Bush, said: If Russia and Ukraine unite in a new union, then the US monopoly as a world power will come to an end. We must take all measures to prevent this, and even better, push these two fraternal peoples in a military confrontation, which will lead to a long hostility between these Slavic peoples. The US State Department took note and made good use of Ukraine against Russia. I am afraid that I did not quote the words of this ghoul verbatim, but in terms of meaning. So his words came true and this one can die quietly. The devils in Hell have been waiting for him.
    3. +7
      6 July 2014 11: 22
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Poison creatures Slavs.

      I do not argue, bleed. Just not relevant, this is your Slavic brotherhood. Who do you think Serbs like - Bulgarians or Italians more like? Who are closer to the Bulgarians - Serbs or Austrians? I do not touch the Croats, Psheks, Czechs, all types of Slavic brothers. What, and there are blatant Saxons to blame? If this Slavic brotherhood isn’t in nature, then you don’t need to talk about it. What a clean brotherhood of nations, if the mulatto commands the Naglosaks, and the woman is the Germans.
      1. Semurik
        -1
        6 July 2014 16: 27
        Quote: 97110
        This is your Slavic brotherhood.


        our brotherhood? yes, ours)
        and who are you and where are you, an "expert" of ethnic groups and sociology ??? it's not Slavic, but ...

        learn mat.chast, incendiary-ignoramus))

        hi Shiva, Yahweh or to whom you sold your soul there ...
      2. s1н7т
        +3
        6 July 2014 17: 39
        Quote: 97110
        Just not relevant, this is your Slavic brotherhood. Who do you think Serbs like - Bulgarians or Italians more like? Who are closer to the Bulgarians - Serbs or Austrians?

        Gee! In spite of Stalin's plans to create a pan-Slavic alliance, our best enemies did everything to avoid this. If in just 23 years, the neighbors-brothers were so dusted with brains, then those who were away were completely sleepy! And here it will be right to say: it is not their fault, it is their misfortune. In general, they are ruining us as they want. Damn, I can’t stop marveling at Vissarionitch’s insightfulness of mind - even when we were allies, he knew where there would be points of confrontation with them.
    4. Chihuy
      +4
      6 July 2014 12: 22
      What kind of Slavs are you talking about?

      Galicians were incited against Russians, and Galicians were always hostile to Russian and Russian culture.
      1. +4
        6 July 2014 13: 20
        I went for interest on the censor. not. Do you know how they call us names? Vatniki, Colorado, Finno-Ugric-Mongolo-Tatars, it is unpleasant to hear this from the descendants of the Judeo-Khazars and the forcibly settled Polovtsy, who abandoned Islam because of the addiction to gorilka and fat. They will sell their native mother for shatok fat. And for the vodka they will not only Crimea, they will take Moscow ...
        1. +5
          6 July 2014 16: 42
          but why go to sites where specialists play on the nerves, as I understand it, they spread their psycho-crazy dreams, and you take this x .... you perceive it at your own expense, thereby starting yourself up, but don’t convince the good ??? you are idiots with ... brain ...
    5. s1н7т
      0
      6 July 2014 17: 29
      I wonder why this manner of carrying weapons? It's so - the belt fetters. For me, if on a belt, then as taught, but better - in the hands. This is about me about the action "on the watchman".
    6. +6
      6 July 2014 18: 53


      May the Queen of Heaven preserve all anti-fascists!
    7. 0
      8 July 2014 09: 21
      the picture is good, the current right hand is not in place, I'm sorry ...
  3. +35
    6 July 2014 09: 11
    We all need to be patient and stop the tantrums. It will be a protracted war, no illusions. We wish the Donbass MEN and their voluntary comrades-in-arms good fortune and composure, and their enemies a worthy retribution for their work.
    1. +6
      6 July 2014 09: 40
      soldiers of the Ukrainian army are looting and are constantly drinking.


      Fascists, they are in dill Fascists! You will have another bitter "hangover"!
      Army of New Russia GOOD LUCK! Take care of yourself guys!
    2. +13
      6 July 2014 10: 55
      An optimist teaches English, a pessimist teaches Chinese, and a realist teaches Kalashnikov.
  4. +11
    6 July 2014 09: 11
    The regrouping of militias is also good.
    Let ukro-warriors and mercenaries startle from every rustle, and in every bush or tree they see a militia. There will be no rest for them in Slavyansk. am
    Only the fate of the remaining civilians worries.
    1. +5
      6 July 2014 10: 43
      Ukrainians will soon see their light! This is not their victory; they are celebrating their commemoration, I think now the army of the DPR and LPR, that is, New Russia will merge into one army, and then the world will appear drop by drop.
    2. +2
      6 July 2014 23: 55
      Quote: serviceman
      ukro-warriors and mercenaries startle from every rustle and in every bush or tree they seem
      laughing ... no, that’s who will say why, why hide the muzzle like this ??? It’s hot to breathe, the kapets are in the way !! The kid already dragged a rag into his mouth laughing . And no, I won’t take off .. and then all of a sudden ??? am Here are all such 007. For agents !! Ali conscience ??? Why "heroes liberators" hide behind rags !! ??
  5. wk-083
    +8
    6 July 2014 09: 13
    It is high time to create a single command, otherwise we have what we have.
  6. +8
    6 July 2014 09: 13
    I am sure that the victory will be for the militia!

    "Tell me like an uncle, it's not for nothing,
    Moscow, burned by fire,
    Is it given to the Frenchman? "
    1. +8
      6 July 2014 09: 43
      After all, were there fighting battles?
      Yes, they say some more!
      No wonder the whole of Russia remembers
      About Borodin's day! "
      Slavinsk - will be returned! For some reason I’m sure!
      1. +1
        6 July 2014 21: 25
        I support you completely. it will be so!
    2. +2
      6 July 2014 10: 32
      Quote: Black and White
      Moscow, burned by fire,
      Is it given to the Frenchman? "

      to the French for death ...
  7. +17
    6 July 2014 09: 13
    Well done! We managed to get away with minimal losses, most importantly - people. With the creation of the Central Military Council, the effectiveness of our units should grow significantly. Eternal memory to the fallen Heroes!
    1. +4
      6 July 2014 12: 36
      "To surprise is to win!"
      A.V. Suvorov
  8. +10
    6 July 2014 09: 13
    Militias leave
  9. +5
    6 July 2014 09: 13
    "... Putin started the revolution from above. This process is very, very difficult, with constant" swaying from side to side. "

    Strelkov, after all, is a historian and must understand that the revolutions from above succeeded in physically eliminating the ousted (Peter III, Paul I), without which it collapsed (February revolution), so it has no chance, if it is a revolution, so to speak, and it can become a forerunner revolution from below
    1. -30
      6 July 2014 09: 18
      Strelkov said his word. Is he a putinoid, or what?
      1. +22
        6 July 2014 09: 26
        Will explain. Many members of the forum have the slogan "Shooters - Russia, Putin - passed." Now - the words of Igor Ivanovich - read the text "Strelkov reports." Well, how do you, dear marsh and others like them?
        1. +3
          6 July 2014 10: 02
          Quote: tanit
          Explain.

          I did not argue, but for clarification +.
        2. +12
          6 July 2014 11: 06
          1. No need to idealize anyone. After all, there are quite a few questions surrounding Donbass why something is happening or isn’t happening.
          2. I personally saw at least three statements by Strelkov, where he criticized official Russia for the lack of support. But I did not see links even to Strelkov’s words about Putin quoted here.
          3. If Putin is criticized, then they secretly hope for him. In general, more often than not, people quarrel with their loved ones.
          4. Putin is not God, probably laughing , and is surrounded by people and the management apparatus.
          Recently, many attacked Dugin that he was a supporter of tough decisions, and it was he who criticized Putin for his personnel policy. After all, Dugin is right, at least in this. There is no doubt that many responsible persons themselves and with their staff are underdeveloped in some matters, because in Russia, posts are often occupied not by virtue of professional qualities. Only billionaires or their authorized people rule everywhere. Yes, they are probably good crooks or businessmen. But what are their interests, political preferences, abilities in something else - a big question.
          Each of us understands that we will never get just from the street into some kind of "get-together". Nepotism and corruption rule. This is what determines the realities in all spheres in Russia. And Putin can't do anything about it ...
        3. +7
          6 July 2014 11: 10
          Shooters Commander of the Army SE. His position is clear. Even if he disagrees with Putin, the honor of a Russian officer would never allow him to defame the supreme commander. He clearly explained his position: "now is war and not the time for internal conflicts."
        4. +1
          7 July 2014 04: 28
          Quote: tanit
          Many members of the forum have the slogan "Shooters-Russia, Putin-passed."

          And what zasrancam answer? Many times I answered them, and everything was useless: zasranci remained zasrancami. Lick on and on zad to your favorite leader.
      2. -31
        6 July 2014 10: 33
        Strelkov said his word. Is he a putinoid, or what?


        What has it done. So now they "will not forget, they will not forgive him."
        1. +7
          6 July 2014 12: 44
          Friend! (Although I’m doing this in vain ...) You’re not my friend ... I’ll just forget and forgive Strelkova. He substituted the Boshka.
          1. -8
            6 July 2014 14: 02
            I mean, they will not forgive his "pro-Putin" statements. And for kosher minusovalschikov it outweighs even the "head substitution".
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      4. Tyumen
        -8
        6 July 2014 15: 01
        Ek was not lucky for you, tanit, the people got dumb and gathered until they chewed, they fell asleep with minuses.)
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    2. +7
      6 July 2014 10: 30
      Strelkov, after all, is a historian and must understand that the revolutions from above succeeded in physically eliminating the ousted (Peter III, Paul I), without which it collapsed (February revolution), so it has no chance, if it is a revolution, so to speak, and it can become a forerunner revolution from below


      Well, now, Strelkov is no longer an authority, since he has intervened for GDP. Just guys, admit that you have blunted, or are working on the fifth column, one of two, because everything in New Russia is under control.
      By the way, your examples are not a "revolution from above", but a "revolution from the middle." Examples of revolution from above are Ivan the Terrible, Peter the First, Katka Great.
      1. +3
        6 July 2014 10: 36
        Quote: alicante11
        Well, now, Strelkov is no longer an authority, since he has intervened for GDP. Just guys, admit that you have blunted, or are working on the fifth column, one of two, because everything in New Russia is under control.

        Do not la-la! stop Look at the end of the video ....
        1. -2
          6 July 2014 11: 47
          The video is old. By the way, there is nothing specific about the GDP. But in another message about "VGK" is clearly indicated.
      2. Chihuy
        +2
        6 July 2014 12: 26
        Katka Great.


        In tune with Sasha Gray. fool

        Show respect for the great German.
        1. +1
          6 July 2014 14: 04
          In tune with Sasha Gray. fool


          And who is it?
          I respect Katyukha, smart little Zhinka, but that's where she would be without Potemkin, Orlovs, Bezborodko and other Russian people.
    3. +1
      6 July 2014 11: 33
      Quote: saag
      Strelkov, after all, is a historian and must understand that the revolutions from above succeeded in physically eliminating the ousted (Peter III, Paul I), without which it collapsed (February revolution), so it has no chance, if it is a revolution, so to speak, and it can become a forerunner revolution from below


      When there is a physical elimination of the overthrown - this is not a revolution. This is a coup, coup
      1. s1н7т
        0
        6 July 2014 17: 45
        Quote: philippov
        When there is a physical elimination of the overthrown - this is not a revolution. This is a coup, coup

        Yeah, during the revolution, the overthrown is sent to an honorary retirement! laughing Give an example? Reverse something - a lot.
    4. +6
      6 July 2014 11: 36
      Quote: saag
      Putin started the revolution from above. This process is very, very difficult, with constant "swaying from side to side"

      A revolution always begins from below. If a revolution begins from above, it is no longer a revolution, but a palace coup!
      1. +3
        6 July 2014 11: 47
        This is a reform.
        1. -2
          6 July 2014 11: 49
          laughing What kind of reform, where did you see the reform? Reform your pockets and bank accounts. And to ordinary people, everywhere there are always figurines.
          1. 0
            6 July 2014 14: 05
            I meant that "revolution from above" is reform. From the middle - the putsch, from the lower classes - the revolution.
  10. SSR
    +21
    6 July 2014 09: 15
    "... Moreover, the fact that during a real war (who wants it, or does not want it — no matter what, it is already going) warms me up) my public speeches are being used as an" ideological bomb "aimed against the current government. wrote and I will repeat again: By taking the Crimea, Putin started the revolution from above. This process is going very, very hard, with constant "wavering from side to side." But it goes. And if it is not supported now, then the failure will sweep him and the whole country.In addition, during the war, a rebellion against the commander in chief is tantamount to treason The "Guchkov-Milyukov-Lvov and Co way", which also embodied the insurrection in the name of "the salvation of Russia", led to what result. "

    This paragraph, well, directly inserted entirely for - those who are sitting at home on the couch yelling about leaked passed, betrayed and screwed up.
    You are ours, compare your tantrums yourself on the couch with the words of the person who is fighting there. - rebellion against the commander in chief is tantamount to treason.
    1. 0
      6 July 2014 09: 20
      Quote from S.S.R.
      rebellion against the commander-in-chief is tantamount to treason.

      There was such a commander-in-chief Sorokin, commander of the 40th army in the civilian, ask what happened to him and why
      1. -3
        6 July 2014 09: 28
        And tell us what Sorokin did. According to his deeds, he and "why" was.
      2. +2
        6 July 2014 09: 41
        And there was the organizer and commander of the 1st Cavalry - Dumenko! By order of Trotsky - shot! "
    2. +4
      6 July 2014 09: 27
      Quote from S.S.R.
      You are ours, compare your tantrums yourself on the couch, with the words of the person who is fighting there.

      Yeah. And such a simple consideration that Strelkov may still be hoping for help from the Russian Federation, which only Putin can provide, why does Strelkov have no reason to support anti-Putin sentiments - never occurred to him?
      But it is not only possible, but necessary, to speak out on the Russian non-interference. GDP has all kinds of analysts who study public opinion, let them study
      1. +3
        6 July 2014 09: 43
        Or just knows - why, when and how?
        1. +1
          6 July 2014 10: 06
          Do you believe in "Putin's cunning plan"? I believed too ... for a long time. I was hoping. Now - already, perhaps not
          1. +6
            6 July 2014 10: 41
            There is no "tricky plan". The plan is very, very simple for the Ukrainians to figure it out on their own, albeit with our help.
            1. +4
              6 July 2014 11: 18
              And where is our help? And why was the GDP then pushing the speech "we will not allow to touch the civilians of the southeast"?
              1. 0
                6 July 2014 11: 49
                Help - weapons, specialists, intelligence. Where do you think Strelkov got so many MANPADS, ATGMs, borders, mortars. As well as ammunition. Of course, you’re more special in the air, but I think you can find Nona’s ammunition. So why did she shoot two or three months?
                1. +6
                  6 July 2014 12: 05
                  Quote: alicante11
                  Help - weapons, specialists, intelligence

                  let's get a look
                  Quote: alicante11
                  where did Strelkov have so many MANPADS

                  Post how many MANPADS? Well, how many MANPADS Strelkova? And where are they?
                  Quote: alicante11
                  Anti-tank systems, borders, mortars.

                  Same. Where? Everything that the militias are fighting with so far fits into the version "shook a couple of warehouses of skadrovany units." The Nona's ammo rack fits into this version.
                  1. 0
                    6 July 2014 13: 04
                    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                    rocked a couple of warehouses stocked parts

                    Maybe so, but why no one saw these warehouses? The same Strelkov constantly says that Russia almost does not help him, so why not show these warehouses - they say look?
                    Secrecy considerations disappear - in the General Staff of Ukraine there should be lists of where and what lies.
                    1. +1
                      6 July 2014 13: 22
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Maybe so, but why no one saw these warehouses? The same Strelkov constantly says that Russia almost does not help him, so why not show these warehouses - they say look?

                      Why would he? Does he have few other problems?
                      1. +1
                        6 July 2014 14: 10
                        Why would he? Does he have few other problems?


                        Well, so to speak, so that we do not bark on the site at least :).
                      2. 0
                        6 July 2014 17: 38
                        For political reasons.
                  2. +1
                    6 July 2014 14: 09
                    Post how many MANPADS? Well, how many MANPADS Strelkova? And where are they?


                    Well, he didn’t report to me about their number, but judging by the number of downed dill, and, most importantly, by the significantly decreased activity of dill aviation, they still exist in commodity quantities. And, by the way, they are in good hands.

                    Same. Where? Everything that the militias are fighting with so far fits into the version "shook a couple of warehouses of skadrovany units." The Nona's ammo rack fits into this version.


                    Where, what parts, can you give examples? Mostly captured parts located in cities. Parts of explosives. Something seems to me that it’s unlikely that enough ATGMs can be found on their territory, and the ammunition for Nona can be found only in the military unit where they are operated. But I don’t remember the seizure by the militias of the locations of dill airliners.
                2. +2
                  6 July 2014 12: 37
                  Quote: alicante11
                  . Where do you think Strelkov got so many MANPADS, ATGMs, borders, mortars.

                  Half if not more, not workers ...

                  05.07.14. 23: 12. Message from the militia.

                  "They ask questions about ATGMs that were dill in the Slavyansk occupied by them. They were expired, therefore they were not used and left as a garbage retreat. All guided missiles went into the sky. Once the squad almost died - they were ambushed by an ATGM tank column , but literally ten minutes before the appearance of the convoy, an order came to relocate to the block in front of Slavyansk. On the block were holding the defense of the PTR and Utes calculations. When they arrived, turned around and fired a salvo, all the missiles went into the sky. And if it were an ambush in the field, then the tanks would have turned around for a moment, and the whole squad would have been stuffed. Recently, Strelkov reported 20 of defective RPG-18 RPGs, the same story with the ATGMs, only it turned out to be offensive to them - they could burn so much dill armor if they were new.
                  1. +2
                    6 July 2014 14: 12
                    Half if not more, not workers ...


                    I admit that illiquid assets were disposed of "on the sly". However, I hope that the one who did this is already on the bunk, because the Strelkovites will deal with him, no matter how big a big deal he is. It is a pity that we are unlikely to know.
                  2. +1
                    7 July 2014 04: 33
                    Quote: Russ69
                    Half if not more, not workers ...

                    What can be expired in an ATGM? Is it possible to "reanimate"?
                3. s1н7т
                  +2
                  6 July 2014 17: 59
                  Quote: alicante11
                  Where do you think Strelkov got so many MANPADS, ATGMs, borders, mortars.

                  These are 20 pieces. denied for the battle? laughing You are talking nonsense. Putin Arrow fired ATGM sends? Putin sends rotten flies? laughing
                  But they write in the news that Tsarev "enriched himself" by 40 million dollars. Because of this, the entrance to the Russian Federation is closed for him. But the shooter did not receive any of this "from Putin." And what is - obtained by "backbreaking work", as they say. "Putin" does not risk it directly, he tries everything through intermediaries, and among them there are people like Tsarev. But even if the crumbs came, then they bought them from the dill - rotten and sour. And all the help. "Putin" does not need Novorossiya, war, sanctions. Well this is so many years of savings - down the drain! laughing
                  1. 0
                    7 July 2014 03: 58
                    These are 20 pieces. denied for the battle? laughing


                    This question has already been answered.
          2. WKS
            +3
            6 July 2014 11: 09
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Do you believe in "Putin's cunning plan"? I believed too ... for a long time. I was hoping. Now - already, perhaps not

            There is no "cunning plan", there is a reaction to changes in the situation and there is a real view of the picture as a whole. In no case should Ukraine be given to the enemy; for Putin, this is tantamount to retirement. The troops will go only as a last resort, it is not yet expected, in the foreseeable future.
      2. +2
        6 July 2014 10: 40
        Yeah. And such a simple consideration that Strelkov may still be hoping for help from the Russian Federation, which only Putin can provide, why does Strelkov have no reason to support anti-Putin sentiments - never occurred to him?


        It’s just Strelkov who knows for sure whether there will be help or not. Except that he may not know "when". But he certainly won't tell us this, because he is a military man.
        1. +1
          6 July 2014 11: 19
          Quote: alicante11
          That's just Strelkov knows for sure whether there will be help or not.

          Where from? Does he have a myelophone?
          1. +1
            6 July 2014 11: 50
            No, they just sent him there to command. And usually in this case they bring up action plans.
            1. +2
              6 July 2014 13: 23
              Putin sent something ?! wassat
              1. +3
                6 July 2014 14: 13
                No damn, he bought weapons for the money saved from the reconstruction, gathered brothers from different wars and went to defend Slavyansk.
                1. +1
                  6 July 2014 14: 19
                  Quote: alicante11
                  No damn, he bought weapons for the money saved from the reconstruction, gathered brothers from different wars and went to defend Slavyansk.

                  But is it nothing that Strelkov, in fact, as far as I know, during the Crimean crisis was an assistant to the security issues of the Prime Minister of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and while in this post could easily get a certain number of trunks at his disposal without any outside help?
                  1. +1
                    6 July 2014 15: 26
                    But it’s nothing that Strelkov, in fact, as far as I know, during the Crimean crisis he was an assistant for power issues of the Prime Minister of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea


                    You think that in the Crimea they distribute weapons without the knowledge of GDP :), I didn’t think that you were so naive.
                    1. +2
                      6 July 2014 16: 26
                      Quote: alicante11
                      You think that in the Crimea they distribute weapons without the knowledge of GDP :), I didn’t think that you were so naive.

                      Okay, I'm naive :) And what have we come to?
                      Putin's help to Strelkov consisted in the fact that Strelkov and his team did not take away the weapons that (apparently - the VVP itself) gave them from the warehouses of the Crimea. Maybe not Putin? Maybe they grabbed these trunks even before the "polite people"? Maybe it was some "polite major" who betrayed him as a representative of the Crimean authorities? Do you think there were no such opportunities?
                      But even if we imagine GDP as a storekeeper who personally provided Strelkov with arms, then how does it follow that Strelkov is dedicated to all Putin’s plans? wassat
                      Chesslovo, the James Bond epic, which 007 even looks much more authentic - well, superhuman, well, fatal beauties, well, world conspiracies ... think, anything can happen :))
                      1. 0
                        7 July 2014 04: 09
                        Putin's help to Strelkov consisted in the fact that Strelkov and his team did not take away the weapons that (apparently - the VVP itself) gave them from the warehouses of the Crimea. Maybe not Putin? Maybe they grabbed these trunks even before the "polite people"? Maybe it was some "polite major" who betrayed him as a representative of the Crimean authorities? Do you think there were no such opportunities?


                        Strange, you seem to be familiar with military orders. "A polite major" without the sanction of the command, and those without the sanction of the GDP would not have given anything. And if they did, then Strelkov would already be sitting next to them.Because "for illegal arms trafficking" is not a toast, an article.

                        But even if we imagine GDP as a storekeeper who personally provided Strelkov with arms, then how does it follow that Strelkov is dedicated to all Putin’s plans? wassat


                        And what does it have to do with it personally?
                        It is clear the day that even Kuzhugetych did not do this. The GDP gave the command to plan the operation, analysts of the army and special services planned it, money, material resources, personnel were allocated for these plans, the commander Strelkov was appointed, who should be dedicated to the main points of the plan. Apparently, the situation is not developing according to plan. Therefore, you have to react to its changes. But this happens and it was probably foreseen, which Strelkov as a commander should also be aware of.

                        Chesslovo, the James Bond epic, which 007 even looks much more authentic - well, superhuman, well, fatal beauties, well, world conspiracies ... think, anything can happen :))


                        Andrey, I highly respect your opinion about the "interaction" of aviation and air defense, but here you are frankly stupid for your opponent. This is not good and, by the way, suggests that in those matters in which you are special, you can also, taking advantage of your opponent's ignorance, impose an opinion that is favorable to you.
                      2. +1
                        7 July 2014 08: 06
                        Quote: alicante11
                        Andrey, I highly respect your opinion on the "interaction" of aviation and air defense

                        Thank:)
                        Quote: alicante11
                        but here you are frankly stupid for the opponent

                        Rather, there is a place to be commonplace misunderstanding. Let me try again - without banter and in simple Russian words. Sometimes it happens on the Internet that clever people cannot understand each other, alas, it’s sad, but it happens not so rarely.
                        You write about Strelkova that
                        Quote: alicante11
                        No, they just sent him there to command. And usually in this case they bring up action plans.

                        Your point of view and reasoning is clear. And now please consider another option - Strelkov acts independently, at your own peril and risk:
                        1) The shooters were related to the self-defense of Crimea.
                        2) Strelkov (along with other self-defenders) received weapons as part of the support provided by "polite people" to the leadership of the Crimea, who was striving to enter Crimea into the Russian Federation.
                        At the same time, he received weapons precisely as a representative of the "people's militia", and not at all for the purpose of raids / operations on the territory of Donbass and Lugansk.
                        3) When a certain tension arose in the Lugansk and Donbass regions, Strelkov, collecting comrades from the same self-defense of Crimea and (without returning weapons) moved to the southeast.
                        This version fits well with the fact that initially the "strelkovtsy" often did not even have Kalash - saigas there, and any smoothbore. At the same time, Strelkov did not violate any oaths to anyone and did not become a bandit - the self-defense units of the Crimea are such a thing ... with a complex legal status and for a long time were subordinated to the leadership of the Crimea. And they could well turn a blind eye to Strelkov's actions.
                        4) Subsequently, having "shaken" first the police bins, and then, probably, some warehouses of the squadron unit (say, a rifle regiment, but not Copenhagen here), Strelkov was able to provide for the Slavyansk militia.
                        Perhaps, only one aspect does not fit into all this - the ammunition of Nona, because it is an airborne assault, and as I understand it, you can’t get its ammunition from the motorized rifle regiment. But there are different options - the militia could seize these ammunition, they could buy it. Not the most obvious options, I agree, but the fact that the supply of shells for the only Nona was organized from the Russian Federation is, let’s say, no more likely scenario.
    3. No. 4№y
      +5
      6 July 2014 09: 47
      Now call Strelkova putinoid.
      1. +5
        6 July 2014 10: 05
        I will call Strelkova a politician
    4. +8
      6 July 2014 10: 06
      I began to respect Igor Ivanovich even more after these words, although it seemed to be much more!
    5. +17
      6 July 2014 11: 28
      People in Russia sit on the couch because they have nowhere to work. all factories are closed and all other factories are "optimized". I can talk about this quite specifically using examples from my city. They also sit on the couch because they are not needed by anyone in their country and are forced to survive as best they can. And no help to them in anything, but only demand - everywhere and pay for everything. Also, because children, relatives and mistresses of bosses need nourishing jobs. And although you are the best professional in something, your godfathers will never be moved from their places and posts for you. That is why in Russia a lot is done through f ***.
      In all the videos I did not see these words of Strelkov, it should be noted, but I saw only criticism. Maybe Strelkov said this, but it may well not.
      And if people worry, doubt something or criticize, then it is very disgusting to stop caring people with clever expressions using and declining the word "sofa". People are not obliged to "go for a hedgehog naked f ***". And more than worry - the majority can not. It is the United States that creates all sorts of NGOs and pays people for waging information wars. They create other real structures with the involvement of people. Nobody will definitely say about them that they are a "couch army". After all, everyone participates from the other side and makes some contribution. And why is such a situation and carelessness in Russia? People are not needed by their own country. And the maximum that they are offered to shut up is to go literally with a pitchfork to the tanks. This is super-mean! Build new factories, provide people with jobs and earnings, teach how to manage drones and Iskander, and put them to participate in modern contactless wars, even with their sofas. There is no consistency, there is no use of human potential. Everything is anarchic and disorganized. There is no connection between citizens and echelons of power. There is no interaction between them.
      1. +3
        6 July 2014 11: 53
        People in Russia sit on the couch because they have nowhere to work. all factories are closed and all other factories are "optimized".


        Yes Yes. There is no work, everything is bad, "the chief mustache is gone, the plaster is removed, the client is leaving" (c).
        No work for office plankton. And engineers, for example, are hunted, not to mention good specialists in working specialties. And for our brother, the "white collar", it is easier to go to the labor exchange and curse the GDP, than to go to the same employment service and retrain as a turner / fraser, a welder. Moreover, for free and with a guarantee of employment.
        1. +11
          6 July 2014 13: 09
          Sorry, but you are a boor and a balabol. Blame me with your fabrications in vain.
          I have a LOT of working specialties, a higher education diploma - engineering, a red diploma from a mechanical engineering college. And among mine, most of these people are familiar - with honors from universities, but unemployed. I already wrote above that the two factories in our city were Khan. Of the large enterprises, there was also a branch of Rositelecom, but there 99% of the staff were cut - "optimized" and entire floors of the building are leased. Everywhere people were thrown out of work into the street. And, specifically, I am not in poverty and do not need work. Less than 500 thousand rubles. a month I will not even consider job offers. I am not speaking for myself, but for millions of other Russians who are forced to become, as you said, office plankton, although they have engineering and working specialties.
          It should be noted that a year ago, when anti-Putin sentiments prevailed here, I said exactly what you are saying now. And they objected to me word for word on the things that I have now voiced. It's just that people are often prone to extremes - they either hate or idealize. I try to point out the ambiguity. Yes, people should move themselves and first of all take care of themselves. But the powers that be, the elites, the new Russian capitalists should also think about fellow citizens, and not only about themselves. And Putin has long spoken about the social responsibility of business. Only no one wants to invest in long-term projects. And even many ordinary people will not be able to organize more or less industries in order to be able to compete in the market with the quality of goods from the West, and now quality Chinese, as well as with the low price of Chinese goods.
          It is today the most difficult for labor and engineering workers, because even the service and the service sector are raking in large companies. All niches are occupied by monopolists.
          I would also like to remind - "DELIGHT" that on July 1, a law came into force obliging banks to inform the tax authorities about movements in the accounts of individuals ...
          Those. Now someone who has been quietly kolyalym or closed up the rentier somewhere, now now they are likely to be shocked.
          So, you do not need to shift the blame for everything and everyone to ordinary people. They already have a hard time in life, and now, in your opinion, it is purely their own fault.
          And the oligarchs-capitalists, who suck everything out of the country and have robbed the country before, are they all handsome and rule Russia wisely and justly ?! After all, Russia is governed by the same oligarchs as Poroshenko. And wars are always oligarchic, between the elites, and in order to raise the slaves to sacrifice their lives in the name of "Victory, Motherland, etc." - propaganda works for this. Most people understand all this, therefore they are not eager to fight on anyone's side.
          1. +3
            6 July 2014 14: 29
            I have a LOT of working specialties, a diploma of higher education - an engineering, red diploma of an engineering college.


            If you really have a problem finding a job and you are a high-class specialist in working specialties (a classy specialist in SPECIALTIES is already nonsense). Send me your data on the LAN. I assure you that in a month maximum you will be employed with a good salary and excellent conditions. True, you have to plow, like Papa Carlo, of course, in the north and the shift. I can offer work directly in Khabarovsk, but I’m afraid that the salary of a vocational training master from the workshops of a technical school will not suit you :).

            And among mine, most of these people are familiar - with honors, but unemployed.


            We were told that "it is better to have a blue diploma and a red face than a red diploma and a blue face." And the red-diploma student is different, in our group one type never passed the session on time, but at the exit he had a red diploma. And, yes, I can say that in the locomotive depot Khabarovsk-2 more than half of the driver's ASSISTANTS have a higher education. Although this is the level of a pheasant.

            I would also like to remind - "DELIGHT" that on July 1, a law came into force obliging banks to inform the tax authorities about movements in the accounts of individuals ...


            So what? There is something to hide :)? You honestly pay taxes and then you won't have to "rejoice".

            Those. Now someone who has been quietly kolyalym or closed up the rentier somewhere, now now they are likely to be shocked.


            Regarding the "little kalymil" - already said. Pay your taxes and sleep well, dear comrade, but about the "rentier", no "la-la" is necessary, no one will touch you, they will simply ask you to pay taxes. But a rentier usually has a good income to be a rentier, so 13% will not be too big a loss. But others do not mind who is "not a rentier" :).

            But the capitalist oligarchs, sucking everything out of the country and having previously robbed the country — they are all handsome and rule Russia wisely and fairly ?! After all, Russia is ruled by exactly the same oligarchs as Poroshenko.


            There are no bazaars. The oligarchs live on property that was stolen from all of us, but ... What does Novorossia have to do with it? You understand that there is a war going on and in case of defeat the oligarchs will lose EVERYTHING that they stole. Moreover, they lose their lives, because there is nowhere else to hide. See the situation with Snowden. There is nowhere to run further than Russia. And so they are biting for Russia and will be biting like dogs for their feeding trough and their booth. And we are in this with them along the way, because protecting themselves they protect us. Well, we will discuss justice after the war.
            1. +3
              6 July 2014 15: 50
              Thanks for the sensible answer!
              The time has passed when I went to all the enterprises of the city to the directors for a bow and asked for a job. At best, they offered penniless and stupid work. And I worked in many of my specialties at one time. and there are a lot of people like me in Russia. I will not list my labor skills - a long business and you have to take a word. I have even more knowledge in different areas, i.e. without practice. This is due to the specifics of activities over the past more than 10 years.
              In total, I have at least hundreds of higher educations in various professions, because I have to do it for money for those students who have no time or want to ... And I am able to do the work in a year, which at least thousands of people should have done ... That is I not only possess knowledge, I can also use it effectively. The truth is for the good of myself, and not of the country, which I am not happy ... But, such as I was not needed anywhere. And I have exactly the same circle of colleagues. And I will never go into submission to some dumbass or someone's son. I used to do it myself and be responsible for what I do. And the years are not the same as rushing around on shifts.
              It's too late with suggestions. Now I myself am launching a business in the field of information technology and I am sure that I will attract many people to it, i.e. actually give a job. I said - I don’t need anything from anyone. Now, I hope, I will have opportunities and a positive contribution - I want to influence the education system, although for some time there will be an inertial movement along the usual trajectory ...
              About rentier and kalym. If you do not touch small ordinary people, then okay. And when if they take almost the last thing that a person could find to earn, then this is not good, because for him no one has done anything in life. To whom and for what is he obligated by taxes ?! What, he has medical attention ?! Not! Someone will react well to him and give something and do for him, all the more for free ?! Not! They will overtake him and his relatives with the law and the police ?! Not! In our city there are no traffic police posts, no PPP, i.e. there is no general rule of law in terms of crime prevention, etc. Anarchy. They can only then punish the offender if they catch and he does not pay off ... There is no law for citizens. For example, they threw me almost 2 lemas by non-fulfillment of the contract and even the court awarded me a penalty from the defendant, but this joint-stock company with the owner - a US citizen - is fraudulent and does not hold money in the accounts that the court arrested. And according to the law, the authorized capital of JSC is scanty, the owner as a physical. the person is not responsible for its OAO with its property. So what should I pay taxes for? For the fact that in a year I broke the struts of shock absorbers on a car? For the fact that I need to change the windshield, tk. do not sweep away gravel road workers after repairing roads from the track, and going cars ahead bomb the rear cars with stones? For the fact that in hospitals they often do not sit doctors, but major bummers who are not even able to make close correct diagnoses and prescribe treatment? I omit the specifics. Because in my city there is no light at night, because there is no money in the budget to pay it? Well, what does the state give citizens by taking taxes from them? Again, we are not talking about all sorts of people who receive various subsidies and even housing for young families, etc., in connection with corruption and corruption.
              I painted the picture fairly objectively, although I emphasize again that it is theoretically, but practically, I do not need anything from anyone. He said only for the sake of justice.
              1. +3
                6 July 2014 16: 41
                But, such as I was not needed anywhere. And I have exactly the same circle of colleagues. And I will never go into submission to some dumbass or someone's son. I used to do it myself and be responsible for what I do. And the years are not the same as rushing around on shifts.


                Sorry, I do not understand. If work is needed, then you will seize on any work, especially with good conditions and well-paid, whether it be with the son or on the watch. When he pressed it, he returned to his native techie, although, they say, he had refused. Although the work is not very well paid, it allows you to sit out the black line. So you and your comrades. apparently not too pressed.

                And when if they take almost the last thing that a person could find to earn, then this is not good, because for him no one has done anything in life. To whom and for what is he obligated by taxes ?! What, he has medical attention ?! Not! Someone will react well to him and give something and do for him, all the more for free ?! Not!


                Well, dear, and where were you in the 91st when the Union collapsed? It was necessary to strangle this Yeltsin nits and his drunken guard at the White House. And now it's too late to wave fists.

                Not! In our city there are no traffic police posts, no PPP, i.e. there is no general rule of law in terms of crime prevention, etc. Anarchy.


                And ... can I find out what kind of city? It’s just that even in a hole like Tyr it’s down the Amur towards Nikolaevsk, so even there is a police station. And in Bogrodsky - the district center, there are more cops in general than there are residents.

                There is no law work for citizens. For example, they threw me almost 2 lemas by non-fulfillment of the contract and even the court awarded me a penalty from the defendant, but this joint-stock company with the owner - a US citizen - is fraudulent and does not hold money in the accounts that the court arrested. And according to the law, the authorized capital of JSC is scanty, the owner as a physical. the person is not responsible for its OAO with its property.


                So what do you expect from the state? By law, you were awarded a payment, so do bailiffs have to go to America and knock out your money? I had to work at a front company, for a whole month, when I noticed that this company was parallel for work, but for getting money, I immediately taxied, without waiting for me to be thrown. And with foreigners it’s really necessary to keep an ear on it. So the state has nothing to do with it, the damned capitalism is to blame, which we, or rather, you (I still could not choose), chose instead of the Soviet regime.

                For the fact that I need to change the windshield, tk. after repairing roads, gravel road workers do not sweep away the roads and cars in front of them bomb the rear cars with stones?


                Sue. Not everyone doesn’t keep money on accounts, but bailiffs work, he himself came under them :).
              2. +4
                6 July 2014 16: 56
                Quote: vvvvv
                In our city there are no traffic police posts, no PPP, i.e. there is no general rule of law in terms of crime prevention, etc. Anarchy.

                I was very puzzled by this circumstance. what . Just returned from a business trip. was on the North in a fairly large village by the standards of the town. In summer, you can only get there by helicopter. So even there is a police station. The head of this department is the starle. He’s the traffic police, he’s a teaching staff, he’s a hunting expert, he’s a district police officer, he’s an investigator and inquiry officer. Anarchy is absent.
          2. +1
            6 July 2014 18: 50
            vvvvv? for 500 thousand what? rubles or what? not one with a red diploma (and not one!) and a bunch of working specialties (guys, we are all the same ...) for that kind of money can not apply MONTH (this is more than 12 thousand dollars - if the exchange rate ... but in fact - more than 60 ...), is not comparable with the real cost of labor ...
            so sho, balabol or typo? ... better 2nd, right? ...
        2. iung
          +1
          6 July 2014 14: 34
          What a stupid thing. The profession of a turner and milling machine operator is not so simple in an intellectual sense. Courses will not work.
          1. 0
            6 July 2014 15: 28
            I mean, stupidity? For 3 months, we prepare a contact at the PDA on the basis of the technical school, if it has a base of 11 classes.
      2. +3
        6 July 2014 12: 54
        I do not agree with you that there is no place to work, that enterprises are closing.
        No, every month new, more modern and high-tech ones open. Requiring qualified professionals, not sofas.
        I offer a review for May
        http://nnm.me/search?q=%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B5%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8

        %D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0%20%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B

        8%D0%B8%20%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%202014&in=tags

        open: + 16 new industries, of which
        11 - with an investment volume of 1 billion rubles
        6 - with the participation of foreign investors
        12 - built from scratch

        More complete version:
        http://nnm.me/blogs/modelius1/obzor-novyh-proizvodstv-may-2014-g/#cut
        1. +1
          6 July 2014 15: 55
          Here it is appropriate to quote something like "They say they milk chickens in Moscow" ...
          Maybe on Alpha Centauri in general, even more industries are built ...
          And people somehow have to live in many thousands of settlements where there is no work.
        2. 0
          6 July 2014 17: 03
          unfortunately, if something is being built, in comparison with optimization it’s a drop in the ocean ... they bleed the outback - they reduce and eliminate feldsher-obstetric centers, hospitals, clinics, but someone built a furniture factory or a fast food restaurant .. It’s wrong, people seemed to stop getting sick, in our city at the NEVZ (Novocherkassk Electric Locomotive Plant) there also started a wave of optimization, they cut staff by more than half, and after all such production facilities are city-forming, and the most annoying thing is not modernizing the production, but squeezing the last juices out old machines ...
          1. 0
            6 July 2014 22: 17
            and that opening un, in a global sense, something will change ??? covered strategic industries ... you propose to reopen cafes and shops, well, or malomalsky door production or something not exceeding the production of every little thing for the development of Russia, and the auto industry, the construction of agriculture technicians, the same electric locomotives let go by chance ??? how far will we go with your un ???
      3. +1
        6 July 2014 13: 20
        And who is stopping you from opening your own enterprise and working hard for your good and relatives, and at the same time Russia. What kind of position give, submit, arrange, no salary, etc. Now open IP on simplified - a matter of minutes. True, it will not be comfortable to sit on the couch, and you will have to occupy your head. You will try to earn a pretty penny with your work and talent, you will understand that not everything in this life is determined by officials, there are also objective laws of the economy and strategies.
        1. iung
          0
          6 July 2014 14: 37
          Tell you about the tractor factory?))))
        2. 0
          6 July 2014 15: 52
          Ok, let's get loot and I will open an enterprise. As?!
        3. +1
          6 July 2014 19: 36
          Quote: iung
          Now open IP on simplified - a matter of minutes.

          Open is a matter of minutes. How to work? First you need to calculate how much IP, without earning anything, will pay tax. And then give advice.
          1. 0
            7 July 2014 04: 14
            Nothing in the tax, only in the FIU.
  11. -13
    6 July 2014 09: 15
    The militia left the cities of Druzhkovka and Konstantinovka, located near Donetsk. This was stated by the commander of the Ukrainian battalion "Donbass" Semen Semenchenko.

    http://lenta.ru/news/2014/07/06/donetsk/
    If true, then the front fell.
    1. +4
      6 July 2014 10: 44
      Did you look at the map?
  12. Luger
    +12
    6 July 2014 09: 15
    From Strelkova I.I. one would expect something similar (about the departure from Slavyansk). He (Strelkov) has already repeatedly shown that he owns not only the situation, but also his emotions and mind, and in the events of the night from 4 to 5 we saw another confirmation of this.

    P.S. We cannot always or should do what we like (I'm talking about the abandoned residents of Slavyansk).
    1. 0
      6 July 2014 18: 36
      Quote from Luger: "He (Strelkov) has repeatedly shown that he has control not only of the situation, but also of his emotions and mind."

      Strelkov I.I. 16.06: "... Putin ceases to be Putin before our eyes, but it turns out that there are many of his supporters who simply do not notice this and support him at the moment when he does not do what he should. In the face of the dead and perishing, in the face of If he still holds out with the decision, all his enemies and all the enemies of Russia inside and outside will perk up and launch a counteroffensive: against Novorossia, then Crimea, then the Kremlin. Liberals who have always hated him and nationalists loyal to Putin will come out against him as a UNIFIED STRING. ...

      The Kiev scenario will be repeated. And in order to save himself and the country, Putin will again have to face the problem of violence. Either in the Crimea or in Moscow. And war again. And again, the old examples are the GKChP and the leaders of the Supreme Council and the new Yanukovych. Their pacifism and humanism invariably led to the collapse of the States.

      Now Putin is betraying not only the DPR and LPR, he is betraying himself, Russia, and all of us. In addition to the direct introduction of troops, there are many real ways to save New Russia. I know what I'm talking about: no decisive means have been involved yet. And it is monstrous in its consequences. And it is unexpected and it is illogical. And this is not at all Putin's way. And those who are choked with hysteria against the introduction of troops behave in this situation in a strange and illogical way for patriots. If not for upholding our values ​​and interests, then why do they love Putin? And who are they, these strange opponents of troop entry? Are they virtual? Are they network war bots? Are they agents of foreign special services who had pre-stamped patriotic public figures in order to scream in unison at a critical moment: Putin, do not send troops ...

      Putin must decisively help Novorossiya - in one way or another, and in fact, he knows better how. IT IS POSSIBLE AND WITHOUT INTRODUCTION OF TROOPS. It can be somehow different. But EXACTLY THIS is not happening. The people who rose up against the junta are on their last legs. They need REAL help. Effective and immediate. But she is not. The longer it is gone, the more impudent the punishers, the more ruthlessly they destroy civilians. They are no longer just threatening to destroy, but are being destroyed. Before our eyes. WHAT IS Putin? "

      A strong man tries to correct his mistakes, while a weak man tries to justify them.
      1. 0
        6 July 2014 18: 46
        Quote: nils
        A strong man tries to correct his mistakes, while a weak man tries to justify them.

        I agree that Putin doesn’t even justify anything by handing it over to Kremlin analysts, and he himself is probably praying that Parashka will win faster and it's over. Which sang in unison about the impossibility of sending troops. But at the same time, none even began to consider the question of other assistance.
        They said on TV that our girl was wounded on our territory. But now, even the Foreign Ministry has stalled. The authorities simply do not want to see anything, and any that the Kremlin, that the government, that the Duma, that the Federation Council. Apparently, this is normal for them and you should not pay attention ... request
  13. +1
    6 July 2014 09: 17
    it’s necessary that the militiamen of our anti-terrorist regiments and RPGs should be thrown-for utilization of the fascist tanks so that scum has no desire and even thoughts about shelling the civilian population. I hope that everything will really be so-having lost Slovyansk the militia will return all captured territories and clear the republics of the Nazis
    1. -1
      6 July 2014 09: 23
      Quote: sv68
      it is necessary, our militia ptrk and rpg to throw, for the disposal of fascist tanks

      think about why this was not done, but what they had was, according to them, already unfit for use
      1. 0
        6 July 2014 10: 45
        Well, I hope that the one who sent this worthless person already testifies to the FSB.
    2. +1
      6 July 2014 18: 50
      Quote: sv68
      having lost Slovyansk, the militia will return all captured territories and cleanse the republics from the Nazis

      Without support, alas, this is not real ... The overweight is too large for dill, and units of captured equipment will not make the weather.
      The militia can only hold on as long as possible. Hoping that the authorities in Russia will nevertheless pay attention and turn around face, not ass, as it is now.
    3. +1
      7 July 2014 04: 49
      Quote: sv68
      it is necessary, our militia ptrk and rpg to throw, for the disposal of fascist tanks

      When will this pindobalism end? How many times is this phrase uttered? In the 1000th? 1200th? No matter how much you shout "sugar", your mouth won't get sweeter!
  14. +5
    6 July 2014 09: 17
    About the departure, the group is lost - 1 T-64, 2 BMP-2 and 1 BMD-2. Strelkov confirmed. They should have falsely attacked and portrayed a breakthrough elsewhere, but failed.


    As for the rest, emissaries have already arrived from Moscow, presenting "Why didn't you die." and are actively staggering about Shooter Traitor, it's time to negotiate the surrender of the DPR with Poroshenko. Therefore, the battle with our own is still ahead.

    According to the situation, raids on Donetsk in order to test the defense and pull out their own with the AERO are possible today or tomorrow. The city is not ready for battle at all. There, only the administration was strengthened. No trenches, no positions in the building, nothing.
    1. +5
      6 July 2014 10: 01
      The city is not ready for battle at all. There, only the administration was strengthened. No trenches, no positions in the building, nothing.

      Like this? And what were they doing all this time ?! While the "strelkovtsy" "pulled back" the ukrofashists in Slavinsk? What kind of "nonsense" is going on in Donetsk ?!
    2. +3
      6 July 2014 10: 47
      As for the rest, emissaries have already arrived from Moscow, presenting "Why didn't you die." and are actively staggering about Shooter Traitor, it's time to negotiate the surrender of the DPR with Poroshenko. Therefore, the battle with our own is still ahead.


      Did you dream about this?
      1. +3
        6 July 2014 11: 05
        No, here’s one of the emissaries already broadcasting from the Sofa:
        1. +12
          6 July 2014 11: 15
          Quote: donavi49
          No, here’s one of the emissaries already broadcasting from the Sofa:

          Yeah and two vending machines on the couch. This is called cheap, clumsy show-offs.
          1. +6
            6 July 2014 12: 05
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yeah and two vending machines on the couch. This is called cheap, clumsy show-offs.
            .

            Sanya, this is Sergey Kurginyan's professional - he is a theater director with great ambitions.

            How many times did Strelkov appeal that he had no heavy weapons and skilled personnel?
            1. +2
              6 July 2014 13: 08
              Quote: Simple
              How many times did Strelkov appeal that he had no heavy weapons and skilled personnel?

              As I understand it, the question is rhetorical, you can not answer.
          2. +5
            6 July 2014 12: 46
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: donavi49
            No, here’s one of the emissaries already broadcasting from the Sofa:

            Yeah and two vending machines on the couch. This is called cheap, clumsy show-offs.

            It is in such situations that the true essence of a person emerges. Now it’s obvious that Kurginyan is a bald ferret, that same fifth and sixth column, about which he constantly repeats.
            1. 0
              6 July 2014 14: 32
              Or maybe it's not him at all? Because you, ser., Make such a comment in VO, for one comment you’ll fly to marshals and cons.
            2. +2
              6 July 2014 15: 34
              I understood its essence a year and a half ago, when his article was discussed here on the site. There he called our entire life, system, and in fact the country, about fifty times, a garbage dump. I approximately like you defined it, though then I was cruelly minusanuli. laughing
            3. 0
              7 July 2014 00: 19
              And is he Kurginyan? Or another half-blood-changeling. Raise its roots, wash it off shit, look where it crawled out of. Maybe everything would become clear.
          3. +8
            6 July 2014 13: 01
            He would have put "Cliff" behind the SOFA !!! laughing Nerd, by God!
        2. +7
          6 July 2014 11: 36
          Yes, S. Kurginyan is very convincing, with a tie with two assault rifles, probably just from the battle. S. Kurginyan knows better that with the arrival of Strelkov I.I. in the city of Donetsk, the land under the Donetsk authorities will catch fire, and probably his interests will be affected, as he spoke ... Yes, Strelkov II, excuse me, your interests are not protected. But what were you hoping for when speaking negatively about I. Strelkov? - that we are stupid and believe you?
          "Yes, pug, to know she is strong that barks at an elephant ..."
          1. +1
            6 July 2014 13: 02
            Brehat - do not toss bags!
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        4. +3
          6 July 2014 11: 39
          This one will be able to shoot immediately with two machine guns? Have seen enough of the American fighters, now consider that, it is possible to be beautiful. Cheap!
          1. +1
            7 July 2014 04: 56
            Quote: lonely
            Can this one with two machine guns shoot at once?

            And can he trade arms? And on the couch, his shop?
        5. -1
          6 July 2014 11: 54
          No, here’s one of the emissaries already broadcasting from the Sofa:


          And what does Kurgi and GDP have to do with it?
        6. sds
          sds
          +3
          6 July 2014 12: 58
          Is he crazy? He’ll be killed there for it! Not a pity, of course, but unusual.
        7. 0
          6 July 2014 19: 12
          For me, this stuffed bullshit is rubbing, but I do not succumb to hypnosis laughing He’s all folded, to see his own intelligence. Network. Just why he still has so many questions? After all, he knows everything. In short, he makes himself an image and only am
        8. +1
          6 July 2014 19: 13
          Quote: donavi49
          No, here’s one of the emissaries already broadcasting from the Sofa:

          Still surrounded by machine guns, mug ... smile
          You would take him to the front line, give a machine gun and let him pose there. And then he will return to Russia, he will beg for a star of the Hero ...
          1. 0
            7 July 2014 00: 23
            Pneumatics, probably, because it’s scary to sit next to shooters, because according to the theatrical laws of the genre, if a gun hangs on the wall, it’s simply obliged to shoot, even at the end of the performance. How ricochet? Brave people - however!
        9. genybra
          0
          6 July 2014 21: 32
          PR, bastard
        10. 0
          7 July 2014 02: 44
          Call the audience "couch talkers" while sitting on the couch fool show-off, money, two barrels ... I wonder which office he pays for his performances?
        11. 0
          7 July 2014 09: 06
          With great surprise, I learned that Kurginyan was a candidate of physical and mathematical sciences. For a physicist, too narrow-minded thinking. On a sofa with machine guns broadcasting strategy is beyond arrogance.
          You can die - all die. And who will beat the Nazis?
          Or, as always liberal the effect of biting someone who will not ask you for words, then maybe others will stroke the "head"
        12. genybra
          0
          8 July 2014 17: 24
          Damn the guys.
          For the sake of interest, I spent 12 minutes watching this video and I can’t understand, Kurginyan in his years can at least somehow evaluate the situation or not ???
          "Why did Strelkov whine and say that he is not being helped from Russia?" - Well, it's obvious that in order not to fire up the office. Or he had to publicly admit the fact of military aid. Does Kurginyan have a temperature?

          "Where were the negotiations on the corridor going? Where am I asking? !!". Well, it is clear that the agreement, the only way with the weak militias would not agree, a fact. But they forgot to report to him - Kurginyan.

          etc. Kurginyan demands that all top-secret information on the course of the operation be made public. He really considers himself to be.

          respected before, now I'm sorry - a mixture of saliva with crap is already too much.

          Although with two machine guns (probably borrowed) he became formidable as a Papus field commander fighting for the freedom of his tribe.
          1. 0
            8 July 2014 18: 36
            Quote: genybra
            Although with two machine guns (probably borrowed) he became formidable as a Papus field commander fighting for the freedom of his tribe.

            Not pulling _
    3. +8
      6 July 2014 10: 53
      As for the rest, emissaries have already arrived from Moscow, presenting "Why didn't you die."


      "Came FROM MOSCOW" say those who came from Ukraine.

      If you go to Moscow, then you come from Moscow, if you go to Moscow, then you return from Moscow (which is correct). The preposition C, as a rule, is combined with the preposition NA, the preposition FROM - with the preposition B. This is the most often way to check the correctness of the use of these prepositions.
    4. +2
      6 July 2014 12: 42
      Quote: donavi49
      As for the rest, emissaries have already arrived from Moscow, presenting "Why didn't you die." and are actively staggering about Shooter Traitor, it's time to negotiate the surrender of the DPR with Poroshenko.

      Here, it looks exactly like the Kremlin’s actions. They probably pray there, on Parashka, when will he win ...
      1. +12
        6 July 2014 13: 34
        I warn you this is not mine, but I liked it:

        Sargas, RU 06.07.14 13:04

        I repeat once again: if the West-European elites have a philosophy of thieves-in-law, then the Darkest has a philosophy of ment on the area. And if the thieves can violate the law (s) - the lads will cover the lover, then the cop - can not, even in small things.
        Now remember 08.08.08: more than 90% of Ossetians had Russian passports. So, with all the people they took, moved their asses and issued Russian citizenship.
        In South Ossetia The darkest defended Russian citizens and no one else.
        Over the next ХNUMX years, they can sue for Crimea, but they will not prove the legitimacy of transferring Crimea with Voroshilov’s signature in the 200 and the military seizure of military units and administrative buildings in the 1953.
        And what do we have in New Russia?
        And in New Russia we de jure have the very separatists and rebels against whom the Dark One has so consistently opposed Syria, China, Chechnya and the rest of the world.
        And any help to the separatists at the state level will drop the authority of the Dark One to the level of his bistandard opponents.
        Yes, the Dark One was driven into tsuzwang: you cannot help, you cannot help, any move will only worsen the situation.
        In this situation, the Dark One followed the path of Nicholas II, who issued a decree in the 1900 that "the sovereign does not mind if the gentlemen officers go to fight as volunteers on the side of the Boers" and opened the border.
        And now, gentlemen, compatriots, show your Russianness and imperialism and help Novorossia privately.
        The darkest one already does a little more than he can afford
  15. +4
    6 July 2014 09: 22
    The Ukronatsgadov propaganda will soon run out, before the incontrovertible facts, it remains to convey the truth to reality to the geyropa ...
  16. +7
    6 July 2014 09: 24
    At dill, a bone in the throat is Kramatorsk. Now the bastards will take it. I think, at the direction of the United States, they will hammer at factories, so that industry would be destroyed altogether. Although who knows.
    PJSC “Novokramatorsky Machine-Building Plant” is one of the largest heavy engineering plants in Ukraine and in the world.
    He will feel sorry for him. In childhood, I climbed pipes to get balls from bearings for slingshots and home-made ones.
    1. +4
      6 July 2014 09: 32
      Kramatorsk was taken yesterday afternoon. Combing Druzhkovka and Konstantinovka. A flag was also hung over Konstantinovka. Militias retreated to the Gorlovka-Donetsk-Snezhnoye line.
      1. +2
        6 July 2014 09: 40
        Did not know. Just left the phone at home, I thought to relax. And here on you ...
      2. +2
        6 July 2014 10: 50
        It’s said through your channels dill, but with us it’s somewhat different. However, I would also have handed him over, he would be shot from Karachun, that is, there is no benefit from leaving Slavyansk.
        1. +4
          6 July 2014 11: 07
          The capture video is already there, but you see from the trench near Kramatorsk you write?

          The main problem is that Donetsk needs to be prepared for Defense. And also, most likely Slavyansk is transferred to Severodonetsk-Lisichansk-Rubezhnoye. And can Brain hold his ledge? If not, then you have to leave for Donetsk.

          1. +1
            6 July 2014 11: 58
            The capture video is already there, but you see from the trench near Kramatorsk you write?


            No, from Khabarovsk. Here I also say that we do not have such information. People say who is surrendered, who is not surrendered.

            And can Brain hold his ledge?


            What for? The flank of Donetsk is not covered by Lisichansk, but by Gorlovka, so Mozgovoy has a direct path to visit the "Demon".

            If not, then you have to leave for Donetsk


            Why did it happen?
            1. +6
              6 July 2014 13: 52
              Perhaps I put it wrong about Lysychansk - this is the flank that will hold back the grouping of troops, regardless of whether they will storm or block. From this point of view, this is an important flank of the Donetsk group and partly the flank of the Lugansk group, which has already lost weight due to a retreat to Lugansk. If Lysychansk-Rubezhnoye-Severodonetsk is all - then the Donetsk group will fight in the semicircle with the entire northern group of Uropian troops.

              And Mozgovoy’s group is now being cut off.

              Here is the map, the dynamics of the fighting.
              1. 0
                6 July 2014 14: 37
                Perhaps I expressed myself incorrectly about Lysychansk - this is the flank that will hold back the grouping of troops, regardless of whether they will storm or block


                Sorry for the stupid question, but "what is holding back" Lisichansk? On Gorlovka, and so dill acted from the West, and this is deep in the rear of Lisichansk. They should have been withdrawn together with Strelkov a week ago. However, the question of strategy is too big to fit into a post.
                1. 0
                  6 July 2014 20: 41
                  Leaving the Lysychansk ledge will give an opportunity to cut off Lugansk and Donetsk. Now a good groundwork has been organized for this. The grouping that was held near Slavyansk (several APU brigades, as well as the National Guard battalions) can be transferred to other areas, for example, against the Lysychansk ledge, as well as to Gorlovka It is possible that the region of Krasnodon can be relocated. So the picture is not very pleasant for the Dnieper and the LNR. With all the desire to achieve a break, it seems unrealistic due to the lack of real power. (Against artillery and aviation, infantry is powerless + morale )
                  And yet. Many argue that Slavyansk was not taken, but left. In principle, what's the difference? The strategic region has been lost, from which all the routes to the rest of Donbass are opened.
                  P.S. The Lisichansk units of Mozgovoy are not subordinate to Bolotov. Also, like the Cossacks of Kozitsyn. Can’t move to the side of Lugansk. He remains in the direction of Donetsk. And will they accept him there? Who knows what the leadership of the DPR thinks? And what is their relationship with Bolotov? around some questions and guesses
                  1. Ruskiye
                    0
                    9 July 2014 02: 18
                    The Ukrainian army is impatiently waiting for the group that was held near Slavyansk on the roads of the Lugansk region.
          2. +1
            6 July 2014 12: 01
            Quote: donavi49
            . And also, most likely Slavyansk is transferred to Severodonetsk-Lisichansk-Rubezhnoye.

            The thing is that the ledge. It is most difficult to defend it. If there is a huge amount of armor and artillery, you can never rule out a breakthrough to the rear.
    2. +3
      6 July 2014 10: 03
      Quote: Barracuda
      PJSC “Novokramatorsky Machine-Building Plant” is one of the largest heavy engineering plants in Ukraine and in the world.

      In order to have any idea of ​​the capacity of this plant, it should be remembered that before the Second World War, this plant produced experimental main-caliber guns for the battleship Sovetsky Soyuz under construction in Nikolaev ...
      And the product range of the plant in the post-war period and the "independence" period is all the more impressive ...

      But the plant, deprived of electric energy, in the conditions of the blockade, alas, for the most part is useless ...
      1. WKS
        0
        6 July 2014 11: 22
        Quote: Corsair
        But the plant, deprived of electric energy, in the conditions of the blockade, alas, for the most part is useless ...

        So the hard workers must have fled.
  17. +9
    6 July 2014 09: 28
    Quote: mig31
    Ukronatsgadovskoy propaganda will soon run out of steam

    Do not be complacent, it will work until it is turned off
  18. +10
    6 July 2014 09: 28
    The bright eternal memory of the fallen heroes ...

    Dear Igor Ivanovich, God grant you further wisdom and a lot of strength!
  19. +9
    6 July 2014 09: 31
    Eternal memory to the fallen volunteer fighters from Russia!
    + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    It is not clear why the defective ATGM abandoned? From any item containing explosives and a primitive initiator (even made from auxiliary materials), you can craft a mine trap.
    Having conjured over the guidance block, it can be used as a usual artillery shell - by launching towards the enemy; maybe someone gets on the head.
    In the end, it was possible to undermine or burn - so that the dill would not boast of "numerous trophies".
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I wish the DNI fighters victory! I will support financially as I can.
    1. WKS
      0
      6 July 2014 11: 24
      Quote: Leader
      In the end, it was possible to undermine or burn - so that the dill would not boast of "numerous trophies".

      So maybe they set the clock there?
    2. +1
      7 July 2014 05: 26
      Quote: Leader
      It is not clear why defective ATGU threw?

      I think that the militias simply did not have time to "implement your ingenious ??? proposals."
  20. +25
    6 July 2014 09: 33
    I have a strong feeling that in the age of high telecommunication technologies it was much harder to get to the truth than during the days of the Crimean company, when they just started using telegraph to transmit military reports!
    Hundreds of comments on one sentence of information and everyone claims to be the ultimate truth! All eyewitnesses literally just drank 100 grams of front-line with Strelkov or left Putin's room with the steam room!
    The militia left Slavyansk, so it’s necessary, but we won’t also deceive ourselves - to fight against the regular army, even a wretched one, is very difficult!
    I would like to look into the eyes of those undoubtedly sensible officers of the dill army who apply their military knowledge against their people ... Although they are not officers in the full sense of the word!
    1. +8
      6 July 2014 10: 09
      Ukrovennye have not been OFFICERS for a long time! They are executioners and punishers! Bastards who have forgotten the Oath:
      I (name, surname, patronymic) enter military service and I swear to the people of Ukraine to always be faithful and faithful to them, honestly carry out military order, orders of commanders, adamantly implement the Constitution, laws of Ukraine, keep state and military secrets.


      I swear to protect the Ukrainian state, adamantly stand guard over its freedom and independence.

      I swear not to change the people of Ukraine.

      What is your vow not to change the people of Ukraine? Yap, not an army! The executioners army!
      1. +14
        6 July 2014 10: 50
        Quote: asar
        Yap, not an army! The executioners army!


        The original is taken from tempus_curat in ALL UKROPATRIOTS, which are for UNITED KINGDOM - one question!
        If you are such patriots and think that:
        1. Donbass is Ukraine and therefore everything must be done there to suppress separatism, right up to the use of military operations in full regardless of civilian casualties;
        2. In the Donbas there are units of Russian (Chechen, Ossetian ...) special forces and bandits;
        3. Crimea belongs to Ukraine;

        then answer me (or MYSELF) the question -
        WHAT HELLO YOUR ARMY DOESN'T ATTACK CRIMEA AND DO NOT GO ON THE BATTLE FIELD WITH THE ARMY OF RUSSIA?
        Sassali or easier to fight with civilians? AMERICA SAME WITH YOU ....
      2. +4
        6 July 2014 11: 55
        There is no need to cut all the officers of the Ukrainian army one size fits all. 212 officers did not arrive at the disposal of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine within a certain time frame, thus refusing to fight with their people, for which they were fired from the ranks of the Armed Forces. That part of the Ukrainian officers, whom you called executioners and punishers, probably thinks that they are true to their oath. After all, for them the people of Ukraine are those who are "Svidomo" (correct) Ukrainians, to whom, most likely, they include themselves. But in the part of the oath in which they swear "defend the Ukrainian state, adamantly stand guard over its freedom and independence " they, of course, cheat on her. They just do not realize that in this war they are defending the state, which with the "victory" of the Maidan has ceased to be free and independent, since it is pursuing a policy dictated by the US leadership.
        .
    2. Shurshyk
      -1
      7 July 2014 06: 26
      I support 100%. 95% of the information is bullshit. I am used to operating not with slogans, but with facts and logic. And now my head is spinning from the abundance of pseudo-information. Let us take, hypothetically, the following state of affairs: Kolomoisky finances the field commanders of New Russia, so that under the banner of protecting the Russian-speaking population, he would arrange a meat grinder for the Armed Forces and the SS. After that, Kolomoisky’s battalions remain the only real force in Ukraine, which greatly increases his chances of creating a khanate and expanding its influence throughout Ukraine.
      The logical chain is correct. The source data may be incorrect (I really hope that this is so). But in fact, a maximum of 50 people know the true state of things. Unfortunately these people do not give comments in VO.
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    1. +3
      6 July 2014 09: 43
      There a week ago the prosecutor’s office and the Ministry of Internal Affairs worked with a general from Kiev. Just by gentleman's agreement - you don’t touch the militias, but we do. Until recently, there remained units loyal to Kiev in the city.

      And they dealt mainly with the division of power and property after the victory.
  22. yurik
    0
    6 July 2014 09: 40
    "... Moreover, the fact that during a real war (who wants it, or does not want it — no matter what, it is already going) warms me up) my public speeches are being used as an" ideological bomb "aimed against the current government. wrote and I will repeat again: By taking the Crimea, Putin started the revolution from above. This process is going very, very hard, with constant "wavering from side to side." But it goes. And if it is not supported now, then the failure will sweep him and the whole country.In addition, during the war, a rebellion against the commander in chief is tantamount to treason The "Guchkov-Milyukov-Lvov and Co way", which also embodied the insurrection in the name of "the salvation of Russia", led to what result. "


    Putin himself, I hope, is aware of the unsteady and slippery path he took in betraying Novorossia, which he will receive in the event of her death:

    1) most of the militias, many of them citizens of the Russian Federation will go to the territory of Russia, hiding from the purges of the punishers. Their understanding of his betrayal and the fact that they didn’t hover there very quickly transforms into hatred of the Putin regime, many will join Russian national movements and other opposition, some will go to crime. Weapons that will not be hidden in caches at the border will gradually go to the territory of Russia, just like the mass of it that has accumulated in Donbass, the SBU will be here for its "disposal"

    2) those who helped here the Donbass Resistance, in connection with the disappointment that befell them over Putin's betrayal, would not mind taking revenge on him later participating in a material or other way in various opposition to him.

    3) ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation will remember him in elections and protests, how he unscrupulously used the idea of ​​the Russian world, mutual assistance and protection, discrediting it with his empty and false promises to the people

    4) he will have to pay for Crimea because the Ukrainian leadership, feeling the euphoria of victory in the Donbas and relying on US support, will do everything possible to incite ethnic hatred between the Tatars and Russians there, use the Islamist factor with its attacks on the peninsula, and carry out any military provocations as a result of which border guards may die, as well as establish a complete blockade of Crimea

    5) Mr. Tefft, a tough Russophobe who, with the gracious filing of the Kremlin, has become an ambassador to Russia and who has vast experience of color revolutions in Georgia and Ukraine, will do everything possible to support any protest and dissatisfaction in the country with the Kremlin’s authorities, rocking the situation before real maidan or revolution. I dare to assure Washington that it will not spare billions in this matter.

    This is the situation for Putin’s compador regime with possible changes and amendments
    1. UFO
      +1
      6 July 2014 10: 06
      Quote: yurik
      This is the situation for Putin’s compador regime with possible changes and amendments

      Listen, Napoleon, do you already look like the result of the vital activity of mankind? Do not share how it all ends? laughing fool
      1. 0
        6 July 2014 10: 18
        Actually, you don’t need to juggle, here the people said what would happen in case of a drain ...

        Or do you think he does not have the right to express his opinion ...

        And you seem to believe, "UFOs will arrive in a blue helicopter and it will help for free"))))
    2. +2
      6 July 2014 10: 12
      In addition ... for the longer term, 10-15-20 years, we will receive millions of 35-40 people, as a direct enemy at hand. With missile bases near our border. Although not only missile ... Yes, you will not spare billions to create an ideologically enemy-oriented dill, well-armed army ... and there it will be much easier to deal with Belarus and it will be much easier ...!
      1. +2
        6 July 2014 12: 55
        Quote: Dali
        In addition ... for the longer term, 10-15-20 years, we will receive millions of 35-40 people, as a direct enemy at hand. With missile bases near our border. Although not only missile ... Yes, you will not spare billions to create an ideologically enemy-oriented dill, well-armed army ... and there it will be much easier to deal with Belarus and it will be much easier ...!

        All of this has already been created. The only thing left is to understaff with weapons.
    3. 0
      6 July 2014 10: 12
      In addition ... for the longer term, 10-15-20 years, we will receive millions of 35-40 people, as a direct enemy at hand. With missile bases near our border. Although not only missile ... Yes, you will not spare billions to create an ideologically enemy-oriented dill, well-armed army ... and there it will be much easier to deal with Belarus and it will be much easier ...!
      1. UFO
        +1
        6 July 2014 10: 33
        Does the button sink?
      2. +2
        6 July 2014 11: 14
        One amendment in 10_15_20 years in Ukraine will not have these 30-40 million people, even with the most favorable scenario, no more than half of these figures. The reason is the eternal economic and political crisis, unfavorable living conditions for ordinary people, the result is mass emigration to more prosperous countries. We actually observe similar now in such countries as Bulgaria, Lithuania, Latvia, Romania. So the big question is whether there will be anyone to fight with Russia in Ukraine.
  23. +6
    6 July 2014 09: 40
    Not UKR they and urki, in the full sense of the word! am
  24. +3
    6 July 2014 09: 48
    The militia is trying to impose more maneuverable tactics. During the ceasefire, the Ukrainians did some headquarters work, adopted the tactics of the artillery attack and quite successfully began to use it. The time for the roadblocks has passed, we need to look for new tactical moves.
  25. +5
    6 July 2014 09: 48
    By the way, the emissary who has flown in urgently brings the public to the conclusions necessary for Moscow. And yes, in his opinion, Slavyansk could hold aki Homs, and 82 mm mortars = 300mm Tornado and D30 in terms of efficiency and range. And ATGMs that go into the sky and RPGs of which only Sevens and single 18 / 22 work are effective weapons against hundreds of tanks.

    1. -3
      6 July 2014 10: 41
      1) Who can say anything ... because this is a very, very serious charge !!!

      2) It's like Kurginyan, but this video is posted here with a brow with the Ukrainian flag. Could pick up a double ... and the sound is already a simpler thing ...
      1. +3
        6 July 2014 11: 09
        Kurgiyan this.

        Here is the official LJ Essence of Time - everything is there - http://eot-su.livejournal.com
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    3. +2
      6 July 2014 10: 54
      And what, Kurgi we already have an emissary of GDP?
      1. +3
        6 July 2014 11: 10
        No, but he obviously didn’t come to write a book. And remember, who were the first to organize rallies over Crimea in Moscow?
        1. 0
          6 July 2014 11: 58
          Yes, who just did not organize.
          1. +1
            7 July 2014 00: 29
            On our blood with you. Not on their own, pocket ones.
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    4. +3
      6 July 2014 11: 08
      Purginyan says only what Sechin designated. Well, if Sechin, then it’s easy to think up.
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    7. +3
      6 July 2014 11: 30
      Yes, S. Kurginyan is very convincing, with a tie with two assault rifles, probably just from the battle. S. Kurginyan knows better that with the arrival of Strelkov I.I. in the city of Donetsk, the land under the Donetsk authorities will catch fire, and probably his interests will be affected, as he spoke ... Yes, Strelkov II, excuse me, your interests are not protected. But what were you hoping for when speaking negatively about I. Strelkov? - that we are stupid and believe you?
      "Yes, pug, to know she is strong that barks at an elephant ..."
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    9. Ivan 63
      +5
      6 July 2014 11: 33
      I watched with great interest the "trial of history" with Kurginyan, where he smashed the terry Russophobe Svanidze on his head, where he did an excellent job of educating a new generation that had no idea about the history of the country thanks to the Yeltsinism of the newly-minted historians. That is why this pretentious rubbish raises the question - who are you, Comrade Kurginyan? If the guardian of Russia, then why are you undermining Strelkov's authority, why don't you ask these difficult questions to Putin, where is his defense of the Russians? Or sitting on the couch (for an entourage with a submachine gun), you find it permissible for yourself to lecture from the highest defenders, not Novorossia, no, defenders of Russia, who are fighting with small arms against aircraft and Bandera tanks. Oh, yes, you solemnly, raising two fingers, are talking about some kind of obviously mythical assistance with weapons, only this is where it is, then the "drying" would not be bombed and the tanks would not feel at ease, and the connection would be stable and coded, or I What is the most important not noticed? I hope that I am mistaken because otherwise the disappointment and not only in you will be the deepest.
      1. Chihuy
        +2
        6 July 2014 12: 33
        Because Kuryagin is the same Russophobe as Svanidze, or rather the Soviet Russophobe.
      2. -2
        6 July 2014 13: 24
        Strelkov blew up his authority himself, leaving Slavyansk. Another thing is that he could have good reasons for undermining his authority. Perhaps the forces of the Ukrainian army were pulled together so that there was no strength to hold Slavyansky, and everyone would have died there along with Strelkov. Perhaps he had evidence that he was betrayed and framed in Donetsk. We are waiting for clear explanations from Strelkov himself! But Kurginyan would not startlessly shaking the air on the topic of the fact that a corridor was provided for the militia to leave Slavyansk! Messages about distracting maneuvers and losses during the breakthrough began to appear only after the statements of Kurginyan. (I may be wrong correct)
        1. +1
          6 July 2014 19: 32
          Strelkov undermined his authority? And you still do not understand who is in front of you? This is a man of honor and conscience. And for such people, the main thing is that his conscience be clear, his conscience, and that he can look directly into the eyes of everyone who believes in him. The one who next to him understands and supports him, which means he does everything that is possible in this situation, and he hardly thinks only of himself. What excuses and explanations do you expect from him. Just to us, he really does not owe or owe anything.
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    11. UV58
      0
      6 July 2014 12: 18
      yah. I do not think that this is the voice of Moscow; rather, these are personal pens.
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    13. Chihuy
      +1
      6 July 2014 12: 31
      Hang this Armenian by the eggs on a pillar. I hope to let the bullet go to the old devil.
  26. +8
    6 July 2014 09: 52
    Tears of hatred cover the eyes and dry out on a heart burning with anger! These children-ukrovoyaki crossed the line separating them from people! There are no toys at the computer, here blood is pouring. Hopefully they will wash themselves with bloody tears! Death to the fascist invaders!
    1. sds
      sds
      +1
      6 July 2014 13: 06
      Tears of hatred cover the eyes and dry out on a heart burning with anger! good
      ))) Flowery as. Like - the beginning of a toast!
  27. yana
    +6
    6 July 2014 09: 56
    left leaving the wife of children, holy man! a clean open face that you rarely see! the main thing that would not be in vain .. Russia must keep a memory of such people!
  28. +11
    6 July 2014 09: 56
    Quote: from article
    Yesterday at 17: 12

    Message from the militia

    "On the Azov coast, the DPR saboteurs destroyed the Ukrainian border observation post. 5 July from 01: 20 to 02: 15 fighters made heavy fire at the observation point on the coast of the Azov Sea in the Donetsk region."

    According to media reports, the DRG of the South-East Army approached the coast on two small vessels, installed mortars and "worked" at the border checkpoint ...

    GLORY TO THE MILITARY - MARINE NAVY OF NEW RUSSIA!
    1. Stypor23
      +3
      6 July 2014 10: 03
      Quote: Corsair
      destroyed the Ukrainian border observation point

      Gouged the little ones fellow
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  30. No. 4№y
    +8
    6 July 2014 10: 03
    yurik
    about Putin's betrayal
    hatred of Putin's regime

    Whose mill are you pouring water on? Strelkov said much more clearly -
    Still manage to twist.
  31. +11
    6 July 2014 10: 04
    Broken houses, burnt gardens
    Mute reproach of desert streets
    Couldn’t bring you to your knees
    Slavyansk, we swore to you

    No, you did not give up, you are alive
    Blood-soaked Russian city
    Believe we will come back for you
    The vorog will not rejoice for a long time

    May you be completely alone
    You are a city of Russian glory!
    Believe us, we will win soon
    Already quite a bit left.

    And we will return to our city
    And again, the fountains will sparkle
    Slavyansk, we are connected with you
    A simple poet and a city of Russian glory!
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  33. kogaid
    -1
    6 July 2014 10: 06
    people are gathering victims for refugees from the south-east of Ukraine
    who do not mind you can transfer funds to a current account
    Yandex mani 41001282392579
    with great sincere thanks to the volunteers
    1. Chihuy
      0
      6 July 2014 12: 34
      Prove that you are not a fake.
  34. +3
    6 July 2014 10: 12
    Slowly rockets fly away
    You do not wait to meet with them ...
    And although America is a little sorry
    The best, of course, ahead
  35. +6
    6 July 2014 10: 14
    The answer to all whining. Well, according to all the laws of war, it is impossible to maintain a positional defense with the advantage of the enemy in artillery and aircraft. True, one can not take aviation into account; in 23 years they managed to poke everything they could, it is practically unoperable. But it hurts a lot of heavy trunks and MLRS.
    It’s the same as if partisans of the time of the Second World War would occupy villages and fight back from punishers, standing still.
    Dill is not strong enough for close control of the territory! Will and determination must defeat Nazism and the drug addict.
  36. pg4
    +12
    6 July 2014 10: 25
    Minus one jeep ukropov
    1. -5
      6 July 2014 11: 28
      such a video is not very high quality in terms of information, you can write - the militias shoot civilians, and you can’t argue, just like with a tank, the militias shoot a Russian tank Slavyansk.
      1. +5
        6 July 2014 12: 32
        Drive there yourself and shoot high-quality video fool
        1. +8
          6 July 2014 13: 11
          poor folly goes wild, a video that may well compromise the militia, it only needs to be changed its name, it shouldn’t be shot at all if you shoot a civilian car, show that there is a weapon, without that you just shot the civilian car on video.
    2. 668_OOCH_2P_4B
      +3
      6 July 2014 14: 05
      Where is it that pravoseki? Maybe just civilians got lost?
      1. 0
        7 July 2014 01: 03
        I am not inclined to believe everything that I see, but it seems like they shot from a jeep, so it’s not civilians.
  37. lora99
    +4
    6 July 2014 10: 28
    Igor Ivanovich, I believe in your visionary strategy, in a cold mind and a warm heart. Let the angel of fortune cover its militia with a wing!
  38. +1
    6 July 2014 10: 34
    Now Life News transmits Strelkov’s interview.
  39. spirahetovich
    +11
    6 July 2014 10: 34
    The soldiers of the army of Novorossia need to move on to the tactics of destroying the flight crew of ukronazists on the ground. I tell you this as a member of the Air Force SA. This is real. Flight towns are compact and poorly guarded, they are carried by bus on flights. Airplanes fly (always against the wind) upon landing at low altitude and low speed, when passing through a short-range drive (800 m from the runway), you can throw a stone.
    1. +1
      6 July 2014 10: 46
      Quote: spirahetovich
      The soldiers of the army of Novorossia need to move on to the tactics of destroying the flight crew of ukronazists on the ground. I tell you this as a member of the Air Force SA. This is real. Flight towns are compact and poorly guarded, they are carried by bus on flights. Airplanes fly (always against the wind) upon landing at low altitude and low speed, when passing through a short-range drive (800 m from the runway), you can throw a stone.

      They will find new ones ... (to destroy the Russians) .. and the bombers will provide only to kill, alas, such a situation ..
      1. spirahetovich
        +7
        6 July 2014 11: 20
        You need to teach a pilot several years, invest a lot of money in him, burn hundreds of tons (for one!) Of kerosene and aircraft resources during training. It is not so easy to find him.
        And the service technicians and signalmen, also do not lie on the road.
        1. +1
          7 July 2014 05: 47
          Quote: spirahetovich
          You need to teach a pilot several years, invest a lot of money in him, burn hundreds of tons (for one!) Of kerosene and aircraft resources during training. It is not so easy to find him.
          And the service technicians and signalmen, also do not lie on the road.

          What is it, got together with "Kents", put machine guns with grenades into backpacks, bought bus tickets and went to destroy enemy flyers? And there they also ask passers-by: "Where do flyers live here, why do they fly to bomb the South-East?" To make effective and efficient sabotage, you need prepared sabotage groups; It takes time to prepare, documents, "legends", pre-prepared caches of the base are needed.After all, saboteurs are not kamikazes, they must try to stay alive and free.Most likely, no one was seriously involved in this in the LPR and DPR because of the mess that had lingered there.
    2. 0
      7 July 2014 00: 31
      Himself from aviation, I agree with everything. The mess there always runs ahead of the plane and at the same time it was.
  40. +5
    6 July 2014 10: 39
    Once upon a time, "Saakashvali" squealed with joy in South Ossetia in the same way. I would like to wish "heroes" that this caterpillar piece of iron quickly turned into their blazing grave.
  41. +3
    6 July 2014 10: 45
    Kurginyan denies the presence of the 5-th column in power. That says it all! Decoy duck!
    1. spirahetovich
      +4
      6 July 2014 10: 48
      They don’t like Kurginyan, this is unexpected news for me. They call him the Kremlin prostitute. And in my opinion he is just a city madman.
      1. 0
        7 July 2014 00: 34
        Miserable clown. Cheap showman. I read Amer’s books about hypnosis and influence on the public. He just doesn’t understand that these books are about influence on the AMERSKY audience, and we want to shine on the screen from his cheap stuff.
    2. 0
      6 July 2014 13: 21
      Quote: Shtynsky Dwarf
      Kurginyan denies the presence of the 5-th column in power. That says it all! Decoy duck!

      He is the "sixth" column ... and this is much more dangerous.
      The "fifth" column is clear enemies of the state, these are dissidents who conduct anti-state activities, these are geeks like Novodvorskaya and the like.
      And the "sixth" column is the same enemies, but secretive, who still skillfully disguise themselves as patriots. And already under the personal patriot, they push the anti-state ideas they need.
      Kurginyan is just that. Look, he positions himself as a patriot (only for some reason not Russia, but a non-existent country, but he seems to be turning back from Russia), while he stigmatizes the United States, the West and the "fifth" column. And as if you could not argue with that, you can really say: "The guy is talking." Only after the right things, which are popular with the people, does he push through his treacherous ideas and people do not notice this and swallow his lies, flavored with a large grain of truth.
    3. +2
      6 July 2014 13: 32
      He never denied this. Why are you lying?
  42. spirahetovich
    +4
    6 July 2014 10: 45
    The plane always lands at any airfield at a straight line, flying straight over the long-distance drive (4 km from the runway), gradually decreasing to the short-range drive. The drive, which is a driving radio station, now, as a rule, is automatic, always stands in the field , fenced with a thorn. Previously, there was a change of soldiers, servicing equipment. In general, there is something to think about.
  43. wanderer
    +2
    6 July 2014 10: 47
    Quote: Mikhado
    We all need to be patient and stop the tantrums. It will be a protracted war, no illusions. We wish the Donbass MEN and their voluntary comrades-in-arms good fortune and composure, and their enemies a worthy retribution for their work.



    on the box, some military experts determine the time of this slaughter - at 30 (thirty) !!!!!! .. this figure just does not fit in my head.
  44. -1
    6 July 2014 10: 48
    In one of the comments on the brow here, nickname donavi49, with the Ukrainian flag, such as Kurginyan’s interview. Who can say anything ... because this is a very, very serious accusation !!!

    I looked ... It's like Kurginyan, but this video is posted all the same brow with the Ukrainian flag. Could pick up a double .... with sound is already easier.
  45. +3
    6 July 2014 10: 52
    These things are going on .. (Russians are already fleeing from Ukraine) (this is a real war for the Russian world)
    Yesterday they burned 100 hectares of a grain field ... now I'm talking to a friend. In Slavyanoserbskiy district, near Metalist. agropomist. Elite wheat for breeding ... and today the Agricultural Institute wanted to mow bread, but they were fired upon ... they crawled crawling .. The harvest is magnificent, an ear in the palm of your hand. the harvest was expected 2,5 times as expected ... I cry ... "

    comments:

    When zapadentsy and Maidanuti Urains will whine about humanitarian aid - they will need to be brought to this field, given a shovel in their hands and say - take it. All you find is yours.
    And no other help

    They are also burning fields near Nikolaev, near Kharkov, which is not known to eat, but the logic is "iron" - so do not get you to anyone, in particular to the militia.
  46. Khan
    +6
    6 July 2014 11: 05
    Why not introduce a ban on entry into the Russian Federation to residents of western Ukraine. Men and women 60 years old can enter the territory of the Russian Federation except residents of the LPR and the DPR. Cancel the decision that Ukrainian citizens can stay in Russia for 90 days without registering with the FMS except the residents of the LPR and DPR. Prohibit the issuance of Russian passports to Ukrainian citizens even if they lived 10 years on the territory of the Russian Federation except residents of the LPR and the DPR. Citizens of western Ukraine who live in the Russian Federation and received earlier Russian passports are evicted from the areas adjacent to the western border of the Russian Federation as unreliable.
    1. 0
      6 July 2014 18: 05
      khan "Why not introduce a ban on entry to the Russian Federation for residents of western Ukraine. Men and women of 60 years old can enter the territory of the Russian Federation except for residents of the LPR and DPR."
      It's time, and then go around at home.))) Trying to teach us how to live.)))
  47. +2
    6 July 2014 11: 09
    As I predicted, with the onset of darkness, fights with abandoned RDGs began in the city - 2 grenade launchers, a sniper + a signalman. Ukrobronehnika quickly rushes around Slavyansk, which for some reason the locals did not begin to meet with flowers during the day. Generally did not meet. Bummer. Ukrainians did not occupy the buildings of the Security Service of Ukraine, the City Council and the Central Internal Affairs Directorate, because they were a little familiar with the history of the Great Patriotic War, all day they searched for landmines-surprises from Strelka.


    Well, maybe ?! "Suprezov" maybe, maybe ...
  48. Made_in_ussr
    -36
    6 July 2014 11: 13
    soon all cities will be crushed because of such riflemen. Slavyansk was gouged out because they were hiding there, now they’ll be engaged in Donetsk. Yesterday they fired at our mine - the Cossacks were there with their binoculars when you’ve gotten at creatures, when you’ll get drunk on abomination.
    1. spirahetovich
      +12
      6 July 2014 11: 26
      Oh, damn it. My hut from the edge, as it is familiar. In the same war, many argued, they say, and you can live under the Nazis.
      They lived, of course, because they live in prison, too. This is the argument of an earthworm that needs only warm mink and grass to eat. Until someone hooks it on a hook.
      Periodically you have to fight for freedom, it was, is and will be.
      And if you like the life of a simple organism, then just sit in the mine. It’s damp and warm.
      1. +1
        7 July 2014 05: 51
        Quote: spirahetovich
        And if you like the life of a simple organism, then just sit in the mine. It’s damp and warm.

        I agree with you is the mimetic sounds of a simple organism.
    2. +8
      6 July 2014 11: 34
      Quote: MADE_IN_USSR
      .... when you are fighting creatures, when you have already drunk the dough of abomination.

      Waiting for grace from the Nazis and Bandera? Wait wait. On bent.
      Made in the USSR? Miner? Does not look like it.
      1. +6
        6 July 2014 12: 31
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        Waiting for grace from the Nazis and Bandera? Wait wait. On bent.

        will stand-cancer .. and they will stare ...

        MADE_IN_USSR- THIS IS WHEN you and the three Bandera-liquid-Masonic fascist junta of blood of RUSSIAN people get drunk ???
        and take yourself a Bandera hului another nickname ===== MADE IN USA am
    3. +9
      6 July 2014 12: 00
      Dear, well, what are you Yuri. You are Kevin and nothing more. He would sit, a ghoul, in his Chicago and would not stick his dirty nose into our garden. You hide, bitch, under the Russian coat of arms and the flag of the Kiev junta, and the natural color is star-striped. Because of people like you, the land of Ukraine smells of carrion.
    4. +2
      6 July 2014 13: 11
      Quote: MADE_IN_USSR
      . Yesterday our mine was shelled - the Cossacks were sitting there with binoculars with theirs when you creatures will fight, when you will already get drunk the abomination dough.


      The main thing is that your Internet still works. wink laughing
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    6. 0
      6 July 2014 16: 25
      Quote: MADE_IN_USSR
      soon all cities will be crushed because of such riflemen. Slavyansk was gouged out because they were hiding there, now they’ll be engaged in Donetsk. Yesterday they fired at our mine - the Cossacks were there with their binoculars when you’ve gotten at creatures, when you’ll get drunk on abomination.

      Another Crimean woman, the daughter of an officer, how did you lift up dumb-headed earcaps, instead of brains with a doctor’s name, when you see clearly, or a crest is a diagnosis (my hut from the edge)?
    7. 0
      6 July 2014 18: 07
      MADE_IN_USSR "Soon, because of such riflemen, they will erase all cities to powder. Slavyansk was smashed because they were hiding there, now they will be engaged in Donetsk. Yesterday they fired on our mine - the Cossacks were sitting there with binoculars with their own, when you are ready to fight, when you already have drunk money abomination. "
      That lousy.))) It's a pity the mine did not fall asleep.)))
      1. Nina Zima
        0
        6 July 2014 20: 17
        who did you ask? I don’t understand something ...
    8. 0
      6 July 2014 22: 52
      Quote: MADE_IN_USSR
      soon all cities will be crushed because of such riflemen. Slavyansk was gouged out because they were hiding there, now they’ll be engaged in Donetsk. Yesterday they fired at our mine - the Cossacks were there with their binoculars when you’ve gotten at creatures, when you’ll get drunk on abomination.

      The war is being waged to destroy, there is a sweeping of the territory. If Strelkova there (in Slavyansk) had not been stripping, it would have been carried out by other methods and perhaps even tougher (remember Odessa). The lands were sold to American companies for the production of shale gas, but they did not need the population.
      The great Ukrainians, who dug up the great Ukr Sea and fought several wars with ancient Persia, they also needed for the time being, like cannon fodder for the war with Russia. Then they will be merged in the same way as the representatives of the white race in Europe, replacing them with immigrants from Asia and Africa. Moor is needed as long as there is work that he must do.
    9. +1
      7 July 2014 06: 00
      Quote: MADE_IN_USSR
      soon all cities will be crushed to powder because of such riflemen.

      But what about the bombed-out station Luganskaya.Kondrashovka, where there was no militia? After such events, the men take their weapons and go to "correct their neutrality"; and cowards are in a hurry to blame the militia. In short, you are a "shot" ripe for "Geyropa".
  49. +15
    6 July 2014 11: 15
    GOOD NEWS AND GOOD SIGN !!!!
    According to sources in Novorossia, the Ukrainian flag was blown away by the wind in Slavyansk.
    Punishers of the Kiev junta, following the order of Poroshenko, tried to establish the Ukrainian flag in Slavyansk. The attempt failed - the flag was blown away by the wind, and the flagpole itself also fell, as eyewitnesses reported on the social networks.
    1. +2
      6 July 2014 13: 04
      Symbolically, however. Soon "hurricane" from there and blow away the Natsik! Parasha announced the continuation of the ATO and took responsibility for the outcome of the "blitzkrieg". There are no options. A situation is being created when, with the understanding (and maybe, and support) of the overwhelming part of the world community, Moscow will begin an operation in Novorossia to "enforce peace." A zone closed for flights will be introduced, the liquidation of the accumulations of Ukrov tanks and artillery shelling the cities will begin. No land operation. While. This will be enough for a fracture.
  50. bars280
    +2
    6 July 2014 11: 15
    Quote: Khan
    Why not introduce a ban on entry into the Russian Federation to residents of western Ukraine. Men and women 60 years old can enter the territory of the Russian Federation except residents of the LPR and the DPR. Cancel the decision that Ukrainian citizens can stay in Russia for 90 days without registering with the FMS except the residents of the LPR and DPR. Prohibit the issuance of Russian passports to Ukrainian citizens even if they lived 10 years on the territory of the Russian Federation except residents of the LPR and the DPR. Citizens of western Ukraine who live in the Russian Federation and received earlier Russian passports are evicted from the areas adjacent to the western border of the Russian Federation as unreliable.

    I don’t understand, in your opinion it turns out that everything is unreliable on dv ??? I’m from dv and I don’t need these horses here, people are good here !!!!
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    1. de bouillon
      0
      6 July 2014 17: 07
      Нет это проект Курягина. У него есть еще ЖЖ

      http://eot-su.livejournal.com/1486487.html

      там тоже самое. Эль-Мурид уже дерется с Курягином по поводу данной темы
  52. portoc65
    +4
    6 July 2014 11: 18
    Игорь Стрелков вырвался на стратегические просторы.В Славянске он был заперт и связан..Взятие пустого города-не победа карателей а начало поражения..Сейчас укропам нужно время на перегрупировку а Время работает на ополченцев.
  53. +12
    6 July 2014 11: 19
    Посмотрела видео. И пришло спокойствие ко мне наконец-то. Что можно сказать - кранты им. Рано или поздно. Такое само не рассасывается. Это опухоль злокачественная. Сейчас можно сказать терапия идет, дальше вырезать будут. Да понимаю, что они думают наоборот. Но по-моему с их стороны это самонадеянность. А ощущение безнаказанности до добра не доведет. Желаю ополченцам и всем жителям Новороссии твердости духа. В таких испытаниях одно радует, что это хоть не позорное смирение других регионов украины. Слава она такая. Можно хоть закричаться какая славная у тебя страна, но СЛАВА - это прежде всего доблесть воинов и кровь предков и сыновей на своей земле.
    1. +2
      6 July 2014 12: 49
      Марина молодец! love На сйте русская весна тоже духом никто не упал, там есть позитив и видео. Укропов в словесной "диванной" войне ставят там на место! А Вам спасибо, а то тут некоторые сопли распустили уже!
    2. 0
      6 July 2014 16: 29
      Марина - респект!
  54. +1
    6 July 2014 11: 20
    Хакеры взломали переписку адвоката Ю.Тимошенко - Сергея Власенко с немецким врачом Ольгой Вибер и командиром укроповского батальона "Донбасс" Семеном Семенченко. В ней говорится о поставке донорских органов, изъятых у убитых Нацгвардейцев и других вояк. Предъявляются претензии по поставке некачественного "товара". Это все, это -край! Уже на органах делают деньги, как бандиты - косовары. Пусть бы узнали матери и жены этих парней. Мало того что убили, так еще и глумятся над трупами. Прикопали их где - нибудь в лесополосе и концов не найти. Вот уж вурдалаки! am
  55. +4
    6 July 2014 11: 25
    Как бы хотелось посмотреть как эти "бравые" укротанкисты попав в плен, сидели б и утираясь соплями, клялись, что они не сами и их заставили. Слишком уж "цацкаются" с ними.
  56. +5
    6 July 2014 11: 29
    Quote: spirahetovich
    They don’t like Kurginyan, this is unexpected news for me. They call him the Kremlin prostitute. And in my opinion he is just a city madman.


    Позвольте совет: поменьше смотрите ТВ - особенно политические ток-шоу. Поверьте, все они заказные. Хотя, иногда обманчиво правдоподобны. Рецепт дьявола: 70% правды и 30% лжи - все тщательно смешать, и подавать горячим с вкусной приправой! Кургинян - яркий представитель одной из древнейших профессий, и часто в дискуссии дна проститутка выступает против другой, как в классическом борделе. У клиентов ( у телезрителей) невелик выбор - или довольствоваться одной из двух, или - выключить телевизор (покинуть бордель. В Интернете, хотя, мы порой спорим друг с другом, мы здесь вольны выбирать и анализировать информацию.
    Возможно, кто-нибудь из редакций ТВ из этих сводок состряпает целое шоу с родственниками погибших, с перерывами на рекламу, от которой основное бабло на рублевку-лайф.
    А мы здесь, без пошлой шумихи, почтим память погибших, и постараемся не забывать о каждом из неизвестных героев. Человек отправился на войну не на помощь Украине, а на помощь своим деткам в России. Нельзя ждать, когда нацисты войдут в наш дом. И первые снаряды уже безнаказанно падают на нашей границе! А СК России возбуждает уголовное дело. Фашистам должно быть страшно... Но, они об этом не знают.
  57. +9
    6 July 2014 11: 36
    Если русские отходят, значит, пошли за патронами.
    1. +1
      6 July 2014 12: 52
      Quote: north
      Если русские отходят, значит, пошли за патронами.

      Сто плюсов Вам северный! Классно! hi
  58. +8
    6 July 2014 11: 37
    Легендарный командир ополченцев "Моторола", громивший карателей на самых опасных участках обороны Славянска, успешно вывел свое подразделение из окружения.
    www.segodnia.ru/news/142364

    Вот та и будет..
    1. 0
      6 July 2014 12: 55
      Да Виталий! Я повторяюсь, на русской весне видео есть как джип с разведкой укров обработали и не только и комменты без паники! Русские никогда не сдадутся! Украинским ВС ПОЗОР!
    2. +5
      6 July 2014 16: 30
      Как пишут в соцсетях, в субботу командир подразделения ополченцев с позывным "Моторола" вывел своих людей из окружения украинской армии. В мирной жизни "Моторола" - "дипломированный спасатель".

      Как сообщалось, 3 июля войскам хунты удалось не только обеспечить оперативное окружение группы Стрелкова, но и отрезать часть сил ополченцев в Николаевке, где оборону держал отряд Моторолы. Гарнизон Николаевки оказался в полном окружении и фактически оказался в ситуации, когда ему приходилось недостаточными силами под непрекращающимся артиллерийским огнем держать оборону против многократного превосходящего противника. Усугубило ситуацию предательство в рядах ополченцев, когда 2 командира струсили и оголили фронт, что привело к схлопыванию устойчивой обороны в районе Николаевки.

      Поэтому новость о том, что Моторола и его люди вышли из окружения, особенно радует.

      Корреспондент КП Дмитрий Стешин рассказал в субботу РИА "Новости" о своих впечатлениях о Мотороле:

      А Моторола… А он что за человек вообще? Что в нём поразило или бросилось в глаза?

      - Well, complete frostbite in a good sense of the word. For example, we were with him, in a place where he in the morning holds a disco for ATO forces. This is such a basement with a cargo hatch, on such an elevation above Semenovka. And so, in the mornings, he opens the doors of this hatch and turns on two large columns to the Ukrainian troops, azan (Muslim prayer, read five times a day — author's note). And ukroarmiya is still firmly convinced that in front of them in Semenovka is 1500 Chechens. But he did not see, but people told, this Motorola ran along this slope above Semenovka, where there is a psychiatric hospital Semenovskaya. Shells on the slope were torn, and he, with a red megaphone, shouted into a megaphone to the Ukrainian artillerymen that they were not able to shoot obliques. Well, obscene words. And he, as it were, is engaged in the moral character of his fighters. It is clear that the people there, in the militia, are different, the troops are irregular. Kosjachniki and breeders just have to be. But I can say that the militia is a very real prohibition. For all the time I saw only one drunk ... and then - in the hospital, a fragment fell between his ribs, and it was not drunkenness, but anesthesia. And Motorola - he has two methods of treating alcoholism: a shot between his legs and a shot in the leg. Without relapses hem from drinking. Approximately also he cured a local resident, who remained in Semenovka because he is a complete alcoholic and an asocial type. In addition, he tried to look for companions among the fighters. Motorola said that after the "encoding" a man came to life in his eyes. He began to make his way with a fishing rod, past mortar explosions on the reservoir, to fish, in general, he was transformed. Saved man.
  59. +5
    6 July 2014 11: 41
    http://novorus.info/news/interesno/24743-advokat-timoshenko-pod-shumok-torguet-o
    rganami-ukrainskih-soldat-.html
    Адвокат Тимошенко под шумок торгует органами украинских солдат.
    В социальных сетях появилась переписка адвоката Юлии Тимошенко Сергея Власенко с «немецким хирургом» Ольгой Вибер (Olga Wieber) и командиром батальона "Донбасс" Семеном Семенченко. Речь в ней идет о торговле органами убитых и раненных бойцов украинской армии.
    Этот Семенченко протестовал против перемирия, сказал, что если будет продолжено перемирие, то они порошенко в отставку отправят. Eго геройство, теперь понятно, он у своих солдат органы изымает и продаёт их. Наладил бизнес, а порошенко со своим перемирием мешает его бизнесу.
    Я смотрела видео, где пленний солдат нацгвардии рассказывал, что у них время от времени собиралась группа людей, которых уводили и они уже не возвращались, а на вопрос где они, отвечали, что переведены в другое место. Куда не говорили....
  60. +9
    6 July 2014 11: 42
    Quote: MADE_IN_USSR
    soon all cities will be crushed because of such riflemen. Slavyansk was gouged out because they were hiding there, now they’ll be engaged in Donetsk. Yesterday they fired at our mine - the Cossacks were there with their binoculars when you’ve gotten at creatures, when you’ll get drunk on abomination.


    Это в каком СССР тебя сделали такого?! На фестивале дружбы уродов?
    1. 0
      6 July 2014 16: 08
      Видел, как в забугорном популярном кино CCCР изображали? Этот - такой же.
  61. +1
    6 July 2014 11: 49
    Quote: Khan
    "Почему не ввести запрет на въезд в РФ жителям западной Украины .Мужчины и женщины лет 60 могут въезжать на территорию РФ кроме жителей ЛНР и ДНР .Отменить постановление что граждане Украины могут находиться на территории России 90 дней не регистрируясь в ФМС кроме жителей ЛНР и ДНР. Запретить выдавать паспорта РФ гражданам Украины даже если они проживали 10 лет на территории РФ кроме жителей ЛНР и ДНР.Граждан западной Украины проживающих на территории РФ и получивших ранее паспорта РФ выселить на ДВ из районов прилегающих к западной границе РФ как неблагонадёжных."
    Шучу конечно, но что за разговоры: выслать в Сибирь, выселить на ДВ?
  62. +2
    6 July 2014 11: 51
    сердце кровью обливается . как тяжело ополчению. в чечне боевики прятались в городе обустраивали огневые точки в бетонных укрытиях ничемне выкуришь их . у них было полно оружия. а наши ополченцы дерутся за городом в поле против тяжолой техники это героизм и самопожертвование они герои склоняю голову перед ними.
  63. portoc65
    0
    6 July 2014 11: 59
    Что будет делать в Донбассе Игорь Стрелков и что делают там Сергей Кургинян и Ринат Ахметов.

    Н.В.: Что происходит в Донбассе, почему ополченцы Стрелкова оставили Славянск?

    Е.В.: Безусловно, можно было удерживать город, находясь в оперативном окружении. И довольно долго. Потери на порядок были меньше, чем у противника, несмотря на превосходство того в тяжёлом вооружении и авиации.
    Проблема состояла в другом. В ситуации оперативного окружения отряд Стрелкова не мог далее выполнять в одиночку ту миссию, которая была на него возложена: препятствовать продвижению сил противника вглубь Донбасса. Его стало возможно обойти. Поэтому удерживать Славянск и стало бессмысленным.

    В идеологическом плане дальнейшее удержание Славянска также было скорее вредным. По сути, последние месяцы отряд Стрелкова целиком принимал удар противника на себя, что давало остальным группам возможность выяснять между собой амбиции командиров. В результате крупные группы ополчения почти не участвовали в боях с противником, а об общем командовании говорить не приходилось вообще. А без единого командования, без подчинения всех ополченцев штабу операции, ситуация не только остаётся патовой, но и стала приобретать черты угрожающей по мере того, как киевская хунта наладила мобилизационный конвейер, а аффилированные с ЦРУ ЧВК перебросили в зону конфликта боевиков из дебреценского лагеря.
    В этих условиях решение штаба Стрелкова оставить Славянск имеет целью объяснение всей опасности положения полевым командирам Донбасса для того, чтобы побудить их к консолидации и подчинению общему штабу и командованию (которыми неизбежно должны стать штаб отряда Стрелкова и сам Стрелков). Решение плановое. Оно, очевидно, было принято как минимум две недели назад, так как всё это время Стрелков своим пиаром умело готовил публику именно к такому развитию событий.
    Очевидно, плановым было не только решение, но и его реализация. Прорыв отряда из окружения прошёл быстро и практически без потерь. При этом реальная численность отряда в 200 бойцов ЧВК плюс три-четыре сотни ополченцев оказалась столь невелика, что противник после прорыва ещё был уверен, что бОльшая часть ополченцев осталась в городе, а Аваков пиарил о тысячах захваченных в плен и убитых ей.
    1. +1
      6 July 2014 13: 18
      Quote: portoc65
      В этих условиях решение штаба Стрелкова оставить Славянск имеет целью объяснение всей опасности положения полевым командирам Донбасса для того, чтобы побудить их к консолидации и подчинению общему штабу и командованию (которыми неизбежно должны стать штаб отряда Стрелкова и сам Стрелков).


      Вот только нетерпеливым соплежуям эта информация ничего не говорит, им нужно, что бы хитрый Путин взял и сразу рсстрелял киевскую хунту из все видов оружия, как сказала моя жена "надо выстрелить по ним из пушки". laughing
  64. portoc65
    +3
    6 July 2014 12: 00
    Н.В.: Как встретили Стрелкова в Донецке? Какая там обстановка?

    Е.В.: Стрелков в Донецк не входил. Вышли из Славянска без потерь к новому месту дислокации. К какому – публиковать не собираются. В Донецке спокойствие. Порядок поддерживается. Правительство работает. Городские власти тоже.
    Произошедшее для властей Новороссии не стало неожиданностью, так как решение было принято давно и осуществлено в плановом порядке. Неожиданностью оно стало для тех жителей блогосферы, которые невнимательно слушали Стрелкова.

    Н.В.: Что будет с ДНР после сдачи Славянска?

    Е.В.: Если произойдёт консолидация сил ДНР и ЛНР под командованием стрелковского Штаба и лично Стрелкова, то следует ожидать быстрого наведения порядка в Донецке, зачистки оного от людей Ахметова и последующего наступления на Харьков или в сторону Крыма. Если Ахметову удастся и далее поддерживать ситуацию соперничества отрядов ополченцев, ситуация будет оставаться патовой, но с ухудшением обстановки. При таком сценарии к осени люди Стрелкова с примкнувшими к ним отрядами вынуждены будут оставить Донбасс и брать под контроль Ростов, чтобы сделать его базой Русского восстания.
    Однако, сегодня намерения у стрелковцев прямо противоположные. И сам Стрелков и мечущийся по Донбассу в попытках консолидировать группы сопротивления Кургинян сегодня проводят строгую линию на сотрудничество, дружбу и лояльность режиму РФ, ограничивая амбиции исключительно созданием независимой Новороссии, дружественной и лояльной к РФ.

    Н.В. : А у вас какое мнение на этот счет?

    Е.В.: Такая позиция выглядит наиболее разумной и перспективной для сил, находящихся на острие конфронтации с антиславянской антирусской коалицией. Но для патриотических сил в самой РФ такая позиция недостаточна. Мы должны ясно дать понять режиму, что наша лояльность ему прямо зависит от степени поддержки Новороссии. Правящий режим не должен препятствовать гуманитарной помощи со стороны частных организаций, а так же сам или через аффилированные структуры должен оказать ополченцам ту помощь, которую частные лица и организации оказать не в состоянии. В первую очередь – оружием.
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    2. 0
      6 July 2014 12: 36
      Видео http://eot.su/node/17378 с Кургиняном смотрели?

      Не в курсе, что это за сайт ... ?
      Уропский проект(где хорошенько смешивают правду и лож), подделка под Кургиняна или это точно его сайт?!

      Вообще хотелось бы его видеовыступление по какому нибуть центральному каналу увидеть с комментариями этого видео!
  65. Mol
    Mol
    +1
    6 July 2014 12: 07
    Quote from S.S.R.
    "... Moreover, the fact that during a real war (who wants it, or does not want it — no matter what, it is already going) warms me up) my public speeches are being used as an" ideological bomb "aimed against the current government. wrote and I will repeat again: By taking the Crimea, Putin started the revolution from above. This process is going very, very hard, with constant "wavering from side to side." But it goes. And if it is not supported now, then the failure will sweep him and the whole country.In addition, during the war, a rebellion against the commander in chief is tantamount to treason The "Guchkov-Milyukov-Lvov and Co way", which also embodied the insurrection in the name of "the salvation of Russia", led to what result. "

    This paragraph, well, directly inserted entirely for - those who are sitting at home on the couch yelling about leaked passed, betrayed and screwed up.
    You are ours, compare your tantrums yourself on the couch with the words of the person who is fighting there. - rebellion against the commander in chief is tantamount to treason.

    Вы этот абзац лучше мирным жителям Новороссии прочитайте, против которых геноцид ведут фашисты: старикам и старухам оставшимся без крова и умирающим от голода, матерям собиравшим своих детей по частям, детям чьих отцов каратели резали с улыбками и ощущением полнейшей безнаказанности, всем тем, чьи дома и имущество бандеровцы ровняли с землей, смеясь и снимая на видео кадры своих "геройств"; желательно глядя им в глаза зачитайте, так же не забудьте поведать про хитрейший план, про учения, про обеспокоенность и возмущение царящие в кремле (на обеспокоенности и возмущении сделайте особый акцент), расскажите про важную поездку главкома на финал ЧМ по футболу, и напоследок напомните, что они хоть и русские, но не граждане РФ. Уверен, они Вас поймут. Ведь "понять и простить" это так по-русски... Интересно, а если Вы узнаете, что главком оказался предателем, что тогда делать будете? Заложена в Вас программа на иной ход действий и мыслей кроме как "одобрямс"?!
  66. portoc65
    +3
    6 July 2014 12: 10
    Глава Минобороны самопровозглашенной Донецкой народной республики Игорь Стрелков сообщил подробности прорыва ополченцев из Славянска и заявил о начале подготовки Донецка к обороне.


    Игорь Стрелков, министр обороны ДНР: «Ночью был осуществлен прорыв из закрывающегося кольца, из практически закрытого. Была осуществлена отвлекающая атака на позиции противника».

    По словам Стрелкова в результате отвлекающей атаки большая часть осуществлявшей эту атаку группы погибла, что было вызвано ошибкой командира.

    Игорь Стрелков: «Тем не менее, от 80 до 90% личного состава и 90% вооружений выведено из города. Количество погибших и раненых не так уж велико на прорыве. Также удалось вывести значительную часть семей военнослужащих и лиц, которые осуществляли нам помощь, для которых смертельно опасно было оставаться в городе».

    Стрелков сообщил, что отряд, защищавший Краматорск, также покинул город по его приказу.

    Игорь Стрелков: «Оборонять Краматорск после захвата противником Артёмовска было абсолютно бесполезно, это просто привело бы просто к очередному окружению».

    Министр обороны самопровозглашенной республики также заявил, что располагает информацией из нескольких источников о действиях украинских силовиков в Славянске и других занятых ими городах.

    Игорь Стрелков: «Сейчас до меня доходит информация, что, как и ожидалось, к сожалению, несмотря на то, что мы вывезли большинство наших помощников, противник устроил там резню. И там, и в Краматорске, и в Николаевке. На нас наступают настоящие фашисты. Они прикрываются идеей единой Украины, для того чтобы осуществить этническую чистку. И они ее осуществляют».

    Стрелков заявил о намерении продолжать боевые действия и подготовить к активной обороне Донецк, который, по его словам, «намного удобней оборонять, чем маленький Славянск».

    По словам Стрелкова, до назначения военного коменданта Донецкаон намерен исполнять его обязанности, а также принять на себя обязанности командующего гарнизоном, цитирует «Интерфакс».

    В субботу ополченцы были вынуждены отступить из Славянска и Краматорска. Президент Пётр Порошенко отдал силовикам приказ и дальше «сужать кольцо» вокруг ополченцев, а премьер-министр Арсений Яценюк объявил о завершении силовой операции в этих двух городах.

    Подробнее на НТВ.Ru: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1104716/#ixzz36fsHirKf
  67. +4
    6 July 2014 12: 23
    Слава Богу ополченцы сохранили матчасть и личный состав,жалко людей которые остались в оккупированных украми городах Новороссиии.
  68. matchmaker
    +1
    6 July 2014 12: 33
    Всем привет!Заглянули бы вы парни на сайт аиф.ру .Там бы посмотрели что пишут по этой тематике.После закрытия форума аиф.уа свидомые перебрались на российскую страничку.контратака не помешала бы.
    1. +1
      6 July 2014 13: 00
      Цитата: сват
      Всем привет!Заглянули бы вы парни на сайт аиф.ру .Там бы посмотрели что пишут по этой тематике.После закрытия форума аиф.уа свидомые перебрались на российскую страничку.контратака не помешала бы.

      Да пошли на ху тор бабочек ловить..!Мне реально плохо..(Славянск сдали) ! Завтра зайду к галичанам..(четко они Украину раком поставили)..Евреи очень рады..(скоро контребуцию будут требовать)))После соглашения с ЕС.....
      1. portoc65
        +1
        6 July 2014 13: 08
        Меня бесит что они радуются своим победам..Победе на майдане..Одесса..Славянск..Знаешь что они говорят?Что им Бог помогает..Они щас су.....ки довольные как никогда..столько желчи и ненависти..войти в их форумы-звери а не люди
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  70. +1
    6 July 2014 12: 57
    Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
    His body rotted in the grave
    In the damp earth, among worms.
    His soul was burning in hell
    In the shackles of fire chains.

    ///////////////////////////////////
    Коломойского очень ждёт Березовский, которого утопили в ванне...
  71. +2
    6 July 2014 13: 03
    I do not argue, bleed. Just not relevant, this is your Slavic brotherhood. Who do you think Serbs like - Bulgarians or Italians more like? Who are closer to the Bulgarians - Serbs or Austrians? I do not touch the Croats, Psheks, Czechs, all types of Slavic brothers. What, and there are blatant Saxons to blame? If this Slavic brotherhood isn’t in nature, then you don’t need to talk about it. What a clean brotherhood of nations, if the mulatto commands the Naglosaks, and the woman is the Germans.
    //////////////////////////////////////
    Призывы к "славянскому братству" давно надо забыть. Наши славянские браться в двух мировых войнах добровольно были союзниками с врагами России
  72. +2
    6 July 2014 13: 03
    I do not argue, bleed. Just not relevant, this is your Slavic brotherhood. Who do you think Serbs like - Bulgarians or Italians more like? Who are closer to the Bulgarians - Serbs or Austrians? I do not touch the Croats, Psheks, Czechs, all types of Slavic brothers. What, and there are blatant Saxons to blame? If this Slavic brotherhood isn’t in nature, then you don’t need to talk about it. What a clean brotherhood of nations, if the mulatto commands the Naglosaks, and the woman is the Germans.
    //////////////////////////////////////
    Призывы к "славянскому братству" давно надо забыть. Наши славянские браться в двух мировых войнах добровольно были союзниками с врагами России
    1. portoc65
      +4
      6 July 2014 13: 14
      Я жил в Панчево пол года во время войны в Югославии.Сербы любят нас больше чем мы сами себя.Мне кажется -они единственные кто видят и понимают что такое Россия и кто такие русские..Жаль что мы в свое время их предали и слили..
  73. +4
    6 July 2014 13: 20
    Уверен, те люди, которые в чем-то обвиняют Стрелкова, не важно в чем, это и есть пятая колонна. Позорище! Ну и бессовестные! Вы не Русские!
    1. 0
      6 July 2014 13: 37
      Quote: Draft
      Уверен, те люди, которые в чем-то обвиняют Стрелкова, не важно в чем, это и есть пятая колонна. Позорище! Ну и бессовестные! Вы не Русские!

      Так Кургинян то как раз и не русский. Он советский.
  74. +5
    6 July 2014 13: 22
    хочу высказать свое лично мнение для тех кто сокрушается на форуме о том, что мол Россия и Путин слили Новороссию и ни когда там не помогут и.т.д.
    Обращаю ваше внимание на тот факт, что по всем российским каналам круглосуточно говорят об убийствах мирных жителей, о бомбежках детских домов, о расчлененке и о всех других "прелестях" фашистского подхода к войне. Все это разжигает в людях ненависть к официальным властям в Киеве, к нацгвардии и прочим ушлепанам. Половина страны на этом фоне мечтает о том, чтобы наши солдаты уже вмешались и положили конец этому беспределу.
    Учитывая, что все СМИ у нас в стране показывают и рассказывают то, что нужно правительству, я глубоко сомневаюсь, что кто то, это не продумал и случайно распалил во всей стране патриотические чувства и жажду всеми средствами защитить беззащитных всеми средствами.
    Владимир Владимирович продумал это конечно.... и специально сейчас ни чего не делает, чтобы когда будет край и все будет почти потеряно- ударить. И тогда его авторитет в России будет не сгибаем, на него будут молиться в России и уважать на постсоветском пространстве. А там и до возрождения Империи (например) не далеко)))).

    И еще. украинцы стягивают силы со всей страны в 2 относительно небольших региона на границе с Россией. Всё, что у них есть рабочего и стреляющего подтаскивают туда. К концу месяца переброшенные из России войска в теории смогут взять в кольцо армию украины целиком и прям рядом с границей :-) Ни надо будет по всей стране гонятся за ними.И тогда уже можно будет по другому разговаривать.
  75. -1
    6 July 2014 13: 27
    Kutuzov also departed, and this was the plan. In general, the Russian depart only before the decisive victorious battle.

    Всё ещё кто-то верит в какой-то план и решающее сражение?
    1. portoc65
      +1
      6 July 2014 13: 43
      Если даже ВВП сольет Новороссию я уверен что Путин не забудет унижение и жертвы.Он отомстит обязательно..ВВП хладнокровный политик который не поддается на эмоции..он предпочитает ожидать..ожидать момента для удобного удара..мне так кажется..он не простит геноцид народа частью которого он является..ВВП принимает решения не для собственного рейтинга..Я уверен что он такой же патриот как и мы все..
      1. +1
        6 July 2014 13: 56
        Владлен! Новороссия не погибнет! А вот на счёт ВВП отдельная тема. Хватит уже президента РФ упрекать! (Это я не Вам) Мы войну начали? Кто бомбит города на юго-востоке? При чем тут Путин? Им в своём бы дерьме за 23 года незалежности разобраться, все их косяки из-за молчания и понятий: "моя хата справа..." hi
        1. portoc65
          +2
          6 July 2014 14: 17
          Да это наша земля...какая нафиг Украина.наши земли оккупировали,исторические наши земли на которой из покон веков жил наш народ.Ярош сказал-сбылась вековая мечта бандэровцев- вступить на правобережье.Так может сказать только оккупант.Поймите вы все-нельзя Украину воспринимать как страну, те кто захватил громадный кусок России-жил на территории всего 3 нынешних областей Галиции которая была оторвана веками от Русского Мира.Теперь благодаря радикализму и громадной воли к собственной государственности- Украина для украинцев-они готовы на все,на любые жертвы чтоб у становить власть титульной нации -власть украинского языка бандэровской истории и галицкой культуры..Они вышли из этих 3 областей-которые присоеденил к Союзу товарищ Сталин и захватили наши земли,теперь хотят поработить наш народ.Они чужие,они не славяне-они вечные враги Русского Мира..Нужно опять загнать их в свои земли,ы Галитчину,и пусть называются Украиной.Все остальные земли должны принадлежать народу который на них живет-Русским
          1. lg41
            0
            6 July 2014 21: 12
            Есть такая наука - генетика. Так вот по генетике галличане - не славяне, а кельты. И именно их предки активно участвовали в уничтожении этрусков
        2. +1
          6 July 2014 14: 20
          Минус это всего лишь маленькая горизонтальная палочка, а кто минус ставит значит читает комменты и это уже хорошо! hi
          1. portoc65
            0
            6 July 2014 14: 30
            Я исправил ваш - на +...получился нолик wink
      2. +1
        7 July 2014 06: 19
        Quote: portoc65
        Если даже ВВП сольет Новороссию я уверен что Путин не забудет унижение и жертвы.Он отомстит обязательно..ВВП хладнокровный политик который не поддается на эмоции..он предпочитает

        Ну, "молодцы" zasranci-putinoidi! "Если даже ВВП сольёт Новороссию",они всё равно будут lizatь zad vvp!
  76. +1
    6 July 2014 13: 58
    Graf! Поставил плюсик тебе. Думаю, что ты во многом прав. Меня и самого часто посещают сии раздумья. И здесь абсолютно в жилу маневр Стрелкова, направленный на укрепление военноначалия и консолидацию сил ополчения. Плюс скорейшее освобождение и взятие под контроль аэропортов, как ключевых объектов.
    1. portoc65
      0
      6 July 2014 14: 22
      МНЕ тоже очень понравилось-успокоило
    2. DNR
      +2
      6 July 2014 14: 26
      Не понятно, почему за три месяца никто не консолидировал сопротивление?
      Чем занимались в это время руководители ДНР и ЛНР?
      "Гуртом и батька легше быты". Неужели не понятно?
      1. portoc65
        0
        6 July 2014 14: 35
        Все дело в лидерах..походу только есть только один реальный лидер-Игорь Стрелков..Остальные ребята не тянут.Мало хотеть и иметь амбиции,нужно еще иметь голову и образование.И быть избранным для этой миссии
  77. Alex.Mikhalych
    0
    6 July 2014 14: 11
    Не знаю как отнестись к этому видео.
    1. +2
      6 July 2014 14: 25
      Очередной ..Стрелок красавец..а таким вот упырям нужно ,что бы он погиб.
    2. 0
      6 July 2014 14: 34
      Цитата: Алекс.Михалыч
      Не знаю как отнестись к этому видео.



      Человек высказал свою точку зрения, тем самым он для всех определился.

      Сейчас в интернете всякого информационного мусора полно.
    3. 0
      6 July 2014 15: 25
      Хорошо, дорогой вы наш Кургинян, правду которую вы сейчас так эмоционально пели..- может быть правдой, но только вашей правдой, потому что вы ее поете......
      А есть люди, которые теперь больше молчат чем "поют"...
      Я понимаю, может тебе стало жалко твоих кровно нажитых..
      или ты думал- "лярды" пин..сов будут отрабатывать коррупционеры УКРОПОВ только в тылу?
      Телевидение Суть...или не суть.. мне вообще плевать КАК ВАС ЗОВУТ!
      ПРАВДА ЗНАЕТЕ У КОГО СЕЙЧАС, У КОГО ДЕТИ , ЖЕНЫ, МУЖЬЯ ,остались лежать в могиле....
      ЗАКРОЙТЕ СВОЮ ПОПУЛИСТСКУЮ ПАСТЬ, дайте народу Донбасса- спокойно СВОЮ ПРАВДУ ОТСТОЯТЬ!!!!
    4. 0
      6 July 2014 16: 04
      Хорошо, дорогой вы наш Кургинян, правду которую вы сейчас так эмоционально пели..- может быть правдой, но только вашей правдой, потому что вы ее поете......
      А есть люди, которые теперь больше молчат чем "поют"...
      Я понимаю, может тебе стало жалко твоих кровно нажитых..
      или ты думал- "лярды" пин..сов будут отрабатывать коррупционеры УКРОПОВ только в тылу?
      Телевидение Суть...или не суть.. мне вообще плевать КАК ВАС ЗОВУТ!
      ПРАВДА ЗНАЕТЕ У КОГО СЕЙЧАС, У КОГО ДЕТИ , ЖЕНЫ, МУЖЬЯ ,остались лежать в могиле....
      ЗАКРОЙТЕ СВОЮ ПОПУЛИСТСКУЮ ПАСТЬ, дайте народу Донбасса- спокойно СВОЮ ПРАВДУ ОТСТОЯТЬ!!!!
  78. +4
    6 July 2014 14: 12
    Вот и пошла инфа. Оказывается, пока ополченцы в Славянске на себя всю укропскую армию стягивали, в Донецке чер ти что творилось! Они вообще воевать не собирались. Подозреваю, что и большая часть помощи где то "рассасывалась". В Донецке. Вот Стрелков и поехал, разобраться, а заодно своих парней прихватил, чтобы внимательнее слушали. А ВВП наверняка в курсе, что на самом деле в Донецке и Луганске. Что такое объективная информация, он знает получше, чем предыдущие правители. Поглядим, что из этого выйдет.
  79. +3
    6 July 2014 14: 13
    Реальны, жесткие бои начались! В очередной раз поражаюсь смелости и храбрости ополчения! Доблесть и сила духа у Войнов Стрелкова и Всех ему помогающим зашкаливают. Молодцы и настоящие Мужики! А киевская хунта, ну при таком перевесе в броне да с авиацией... Так и отцы-вдохновители бандеровщины в 1941 году начинали, конец известен всему миру
  80. +1
    6 July 2014 14: 22
    "... А перед нами все цветет , за нами все горит ! Не надо думать - с нами тот , кто все за нас решит !
    Веселые и хмурые , вернемся по домам , невесты белокурые , наградой будут нам ! Все впереди а ныне
    За метром метр , идут по Украине , солдаты группы "Центр" :"На первый - второй рассчитайсь !" -
    "Первый - второй !", первый шаг вперед - и в рай первый , второй , а каждый второй , тоже герой ,
    В рай попадет вслед за тобой , первый - второй , первый - второй , первый - второй !!!"
    Из песни Владимира Высоцкого
  81. 0
    6 July 2014 14: 26
    посмотрел видео..да и вобще за последние месяцы много в душе гоVна накипело....если кто то мне в глаза теперь скажет, что русский и украинец братья на век - нос сломаю и слова обратно в глотку вобью.
  82. yana
    +1
    6 July 2014 14: 30
    Стрелков бесконечно прав как военный, пишет "Приднестровье и Россия". Он и те, кто рядом с ним, переживают понятные моральные муки: Россия, где же ты, Россия! Они на грани отчаяния. Но дело их огромно, оно больше их личных судеб. И, кажется, они это понимают. Поэтому они - герои. Борьба новороссийцев не бесполезна, сопротивление не бессмысленно, и руки не надо опускать. Надо держаться. Пока не пополнится число. Участие русского народа в этой борьбе приобретает уже необратимый характер. Совсем скоро мы сможем сказать - идет война народная. Для этого уже есть все предпосылки. Сегодня уже ни Путин, ни Кремль не определяют положение вещей в Новороссии. Определяет русский народ. И в России, и в Новороссии, подводит итог издание.

    Подробности: http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1818474.html#ixzz36gOxOu3v
    Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM news agency.
  83. +1
    6 July 2014 14: 44
    Quote: donavi49
    As for the rest, emissaries have already arrived from Moscow, presenting "Why didn't you die." and are actively staggering about Shooter Traitor, it's time to negotiate the surrender of the DPR with Poroshenko. Therefore, the battle with our own is still ahead.


    Еще, в самом начале, в ГШ предложили: а наградить Стрелкова Звездой Героя? Ответили многозначительным молчанием. И чем дальше развивались события, тем больше росло беспокойство за его репутацию. А теперь - за его жизнь. Власть не любит народных героев. Она сама их назначает. Верная эта информация от форумчанина, или нет - без разницы. Правда в том, что, действительно, имя Стрелкова многим поперек горла, и, возможно, нам предстоит, в недалеком будущем, защищать его. Очень хочется ошибиться!
  84. +2
    6 July 2014 14: 45
    Quote: sever.56
    Хакеры взломали переписку адвоката Ю.Тимошенко - Сергея Власенко с немецким врачом Ольгой Вибер и командиром укроповского батальона "Донбасс" Семеном Семенченко. В ней говорится о поставке донорских органов, изъятых у убитых Нацгвардейцев и других вояк. Предъявляются претензии по поставке некачественного "товара". Это все, это -край! Уже на органах делают деньги, как бандиты - косовары. Пусть бы узнали матери и жены этих парней. Мало того что убили, так еще и глумятся над трупами. Прикопали их где - нибудь в лесополосе и концов не найти. Вот уж вурдалаки! am


    Потом будут орать в интервью: "Это не мы, это ополченцы/террористы!.."
  85. -1
    6 July 2014 14: 53
    What do you think? If in the Second World War ONLY partisans with captured weapons fought against the Nazis, who would have won? The victory of the dill is a matter of time, the militia are doomed. I am very sorry that good people, real warriors, will die. But in the circumstances it is clear that Strelkov and Mozgovoy stood in the throat not only of the junta, but their "colleagues" from Russia.
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    1. 0
      6 July 2014 15: 14
      Quote: Kibalchish
      И Пу превратится в нечто среднее между Горбачёвым и Януковичем.

      Причем превращение идет полным ходом...
  87. +4
    6 July 2014 15: 03
    06.07.2014 Ополченец с Саура сообщает:

    Сегодняшний день также прошел не зря для защитников высоты.

    "Под Дмитровкой наш танк, замаскированный в капонире, ухлопал укрский танк Т-64…
    Наши из батальона «Восток» ликвидировали одну снайпершу из ЧВК.
    Батальон «Азов» карателей потерял больше 70% личного состава и слился на переформирование".

    3 июля защитники высоты также не сидели сложа руки:
    "Наши подраздолбали сегодня укропскую лажовую разведгруппу. Смех и только. Наши попали в засаду и уработали всю укроЗасаду…"

    Потери батальона «Азов» объясняются тем, что по нему велся прицельный артиллерийский огонь, из гаубиц Д-30. Это прекрасная иллюстрация того колоссального значения, которым обладает высота Саур-Могила. Именно батальон "Азов" участвовал в массовом убийстве мужского населения в деревне Сауровке. Получил по заслугам!



    06.07.2014 Militia Morning Report

    На протяжении всей ночи на окраинах Славянска были слышны хлопки и автоматическая стрельба. Ночью шли интенсивные бои в районе Карловки, работала тяжелая артиллерия и РСЗО, к утру интенсивность снизилась, сейчас с Горняка идут редкие гаубичные выстрелы.
    Вчера вечером скончался милиционер, пострадавший в результате позавчерашнего нападения на пост ДПС, таким образом количество погибших в результате наглой укроповской вылазки достигло 4-х человек.
    Сегодня ночью в Донецке автопатрулями было задержано более 40 автомобилей, управляемых водителями в нетрезвом состоянии; нарушителей общественно порядка отправили на общественные работы.
    Поступает неуточненная информация, что Северск был обстрелян из РСЗО, пострадал жилой сектор.
    В Краматорске утром, возле Ясногорки было боестолкновение. На данный момент город будто вымер. Славянск полностью блокирован, с города никого не выпускают и не впускают. У фашистов на руках списки, проверяют прописку, в общем - почти как в Красном Лимане; зачистка скорее всего будет адресная.
    12:05 (МСК) Со стороны Красного Лимана по Николаевке начат артобстрел. Тем временем укропы рапортуют о полном освобождении района Краматорск-Славянск - пусть будет так.)
    13:30 (МСК) В районе аэропорта (Донецк) прогремело несколько взрывов, подробностей пока нет. В Луганске тоже в аэропорту не спокойно.
  88. +4
    6 July 2014 15: 10
    Quote: baltika-18
    Key words: In Donetsk, now there are 2 groups. One is the Strelka and Bes detachments, the other is "Oplot", "Sokol", "Vostok". Will they kill each other or negotiate? After all, "Sokol", "Oplot", "Vostok" Akhmetov's formations, financed by him, which means, in fact, they will have to conduct a dialogue with Akhmetov. The situation there is worthless ......... There is also such a character in Lugansk as Efremov, the secret owner of Lugansk say, Bolotov was his man, as now I don’t know It’s also vague somehow. A lot of something incomprehensible. I got the impression that there’s no "Russian idea" there, money is voyuyut. And there is a lot of criminal money.


    Вот поэтому Путин, владеющий полной информацией, и не спешит использовать войска. Я об этом писал давно, что там все ой как не чисто.... И очень напоминает спецоперацию прямо скажу АНБ/ЦРУ по втягиванию России в конфликт.

    Но скажу даже больше - порой мне кажется что вся эта галиматья затеяна с целью свержения Путина и сворачивания России с того пути на который она стала... Конечный итог - удар по нему.. Украина тут просто как пешка, которую стараются просунуть в поддавки.. Количество жертв абсолютно игроков не интересует... Это же не в США бомбят, а надо бы подумать... Опухли они там уже без терр актов.
  89. +4
    6 July 2014 15: 12
    Не печалимся братья! Мне товарищ сообщил с Омска, идут замаскированные эшелоны техники на запад, огромное количество техники....
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    2. 0
      6 July 2014 16: 02
      Пока надеемся ... а то, идут то идут, но куда и за чем ... поживем увидим.
    3. +1
      6 July 2014 16: 21
      Quote: venzim
      Не печалимся братья! Мне товарищ сообщил с Омска, идут замаскированные эшелоны техники на запад, огромное количество техники....


      Ну, ёкараны-бабай, всё и слил, а ведь здесь не только други. laughing
    4. +1
      7 July 2014 06: 27
      Quote: venzim
      не товарищ сообщил с Омска, идут замаскированные эшелоны техники на запад,

      Ох,господи! Ну,сколько раз уже говорилось про " эшелоны с техникой ".И вот ,опять! Куда же эти эшелоны "рассасываются"? Может хватит пиндеть и изображать ББС?
    5. +1
      7 July 2014 07: 06
      Quote: venzim
      не товарищ сообщил с Омска, идут замаскированные эшелоны техники на запад,

      Ох,господи! Ну,сколько раз уже говорилось про " эшелоны с техникой ".И вот ,опять! Куда же эти эшелоны "рассасываются"? Может хватит пиндеть и изображать ББС?
  90. +3
    6 July 2014 15: 13
    Два ДЭБИЛА в одном танке... как эти амёбы дальше жить будут... сейчас большая часть украины живёт с такимы мозгами... не надо больше красивых слов что мы поддерживаем газом и кредитами простых людей в украине... там люди остались токо на Юго Востоке... И мне лично плевать скоко ЭВРОУКРАИНЦЕВ замёрзнет зачем этой зимой по мне пусть сразу всё под корень, чтоб не выросло больше... Просто всё заморозить и оттуда не надо ничего поросенко пусть лампасульки-ириски свои укронацикам втюхивает.
  91. Artem1967
    -1
    6 July 2014 15: 34
    Quote: baltika-18
    VTB and Sberbank of Russia gathered to participate (filed applications) in the repurchase of bonds of a military loan of Ukraine in the amount of 1 billion hryvnia.

    Россия в виде банков будет финансировать военные операции Украины? Бред какой-то или деза. Согласен со многими, что мутность полная на Юго-Востоке и хорошо, что Россия не вводит туда войска. Пусть сначала определяться, чего хотят.
  92. orb13
    +1
    6 July 2014 15: 51
    А разочарование только усиливается...
    Я понимаю Путина.Вернее,мне кажется,что понимаю.
    Посмотрим на всю информацию,протекающую по сети в целом и попытаемся составить хоть какую-то картину,вернее суть-набросок,короткий и лаконичный.
    Украина поставила украинский язык единственно государственным.
    Проекты об этом были и раньше,но отбрасывались сразу же во избежание эксцессов с "русскими" областями.
    Сейчас наложилось одно на другое.Переворот,приход к власти оголтелых,взрыв антирусских настроений,пестуемых в украинском народе более 20 лет.Всегда хорошо дружить против кого-либо.
    Мы превратились в мишень.Россия,всегда была стрелком,всегда решала когда стрелять,а тут-незавидная роль.
    И Путин по-полной воспользовался шансом и у нас теперь есть Крым.
    Я -обыватель и отлично ощущаю свою незавидную,но зато самую многочисленную роль в истории.И моя версия событий основана на той каше,которую я хлебаю три месяца в интернете.
    Я вспоминаю всегда одно из выражений Гарднера о том,что выводы простого человека о том,что является тайной(государственно,военной,политической) НИКОГДА не будут верны-на то она и тайна!
    Исходя из этого,с уважением к форумчанам,я редко верю их измышлениям и анализу,поскольку понимаю,что они основаны на фактах недостоверных,а ещё чаще-фальшивых.
    Потому,я прошу не относиться к моим измышлениям серьёзно-просто пальцы сами скачут по клавишам!
    Итак,когда мы отрубали у укров Крым,в их тылу начались протестные события-мирные взятия администраций,локальные заварухи.Я считаю их отвлекающими маневрами.Чтобы у укров голова болела за собственную спальню,чтоб не думал о чердаке.
    И вот появился Стрелков. Исходя из его биографии,мне до исступления любопытно-его послали или сказка о Дядьке-Черноморе и тридцати богатырях-правда.
    А ведь именно в этом- тайна №1,от которой зависит судьба миллионов.
    Если это-последствия неудачной(удачной?) секретной президентской операции,то есть Надежда.
    Если -самодеятельность талантливого человека,то надежды нет.

    Но,исходя их того,что происходит сейчас на Украине,я делаю вывод:
    -В течение 3-4 дней,а может и раньше,оглядываясь на темп событийности в последнй месяц,мы с вами поймём,наконец,ху из ху.
    -Попытка замять,слить будет иметь место.Политический слив может нанести изрядную оплеуху по рейтингу Президента России.Остаётся слив военно-стратегический.Уверен,что оставление Славянска произошло именно по причине выяснения непригодности боеприпасов-ярком доказательстве саботажа Российских "помощников".Мне почему-то кажется,что мою версию подтвердят военные знатоки.
    Это и будет ответом этой мрази-Кургиняну.И как его в Донбассе терпят?! Я бы на пороге на таких урну надевал-чтоб не смердели.
    Стрелков понял,что из них делают смертников и заложниками самого лучшего для Президента России исхода -дать угробить и превратить в Героев посмертно.
    И взятки гладки.Любимый финал политических пьес.
    What's next?
    Главное-то,что постепенно у русских людей снимаются шоры с глаз и они начинают понимать,что войны Росси с Украиной не будет.
    Слабость это нашего Президента,вынужденный политический зигзаг или ХОЛОДНЫЙ РАСЧЁТ ГЛАВЫ ГОСУДАРСТВА?
    Покажет время.Путину сейчас не позавидуешь.
    Но меня потрясла эта Кургиняновская клоунада.И насторожила.Эта без поддержки не пукнет...
  93. +1
    6 July 2014 16: 03
    Интервью Игоря Стрелков об оставлении Славянска 5/07/14
  94. +2
    6 July 2014 16: 06
    Ил-76 в Луганском аэропорту просто "добили" - он садился первым в группе 76-х и получил попадания в двигатели левого крыла , горел на земле , потушили . Второй , как известно , был сбит , третьему удалось уйти ...
  95. +8
    6 July 2014 16: 07
    Hi all!
    Я моряк, сейчас в Тихом океане, к юго востоку от Филлипин. Не знаю, под каким флагом опубликуется моё сообщение, но я гражданин Украины. На судне нас таких 6 человек (остальные Индонезы - всего 16).
    Странно, но мы все из разных областей Украины, но почему-то все единомышленники. Переживаем, делимся информацией, радуемся победам Новороссии и огорчаемся её неудачам. Интернет спутниковый, дорогой - зараза (27 USD за 30 МГб). Однако реальные новости можно получить только здесь. То, что нам бесплатно присылают америкосы - ну, что сказать,... основные тезисы "Россия - агрессор" и "Мирный план Пидарошенко"
  96. 0
    6 July 2014 16: 12
    Quote: Oprychnik
    I went for interest on the censor. not. Do you know how they call us names? Vatniki, Colorado, Finno-Ugric-Mongolo-Tatars, it is unpleasant to hear this from the descendants of the Judeo-Khazars and the forcibly settled Polovtsy, who abandoned Islam because of the addiction to gorilka and fat. They will sell their native mother for shatok fat. And for the vodka they will not only Crimea, they will take Moscow ...

    Кто ж им даст-то!?Если только предатели из верхних эшелонов,как было в 95...
  97. +2
    6 July 2014 16: 26
    Как пишут в соцсетях, в субботу командир подразделения ополченцев с позывным "Моторола" вывел своих людей из окружения украинской армии. В мирной жизни "Моторола" - "дипломированный спасатель".

    Как сообщалось, 3 июля войскам хунты удалось не только обеспечить оперативное окружение группы Стрелкова, но и отрезать часть сил ополченцев в Николаевке, где оборону держал отряд Моторолы. Гарнизон Николаевки оказался в полном окружении и фактически оказался в ситуации, когда ему приходилось недостаточными силами под непрекращающимся артиллерийским огнем держать оборону против многократного превосходящего противника. Усугубило ситуацию предательство в рядах ополченцев, когда 2 командира струсили и оголили фронт, что привело к схлопыванию устойчивой обороны в районе Николаевки.

    Поэтому новость о том, что Моторола и его люди вышли из окружения, особенно радует.

    Корреспондент КП Дмитрий Стешин рассказал в субботу РИА "Новости" о своих впечатлениях о Мотороле:

    А Моторола… А он что за человек вообще? Что в нём поразило или бросилось в глаза?

    - Well, complete frostbite in a good sense of the word. For example, we were with him, in a place where he in the morning holds a disco for ATO forces. This is such a basement with a cargo hatch, on such an elevation above Semenovka. And so, in the mornings, he opens the doors of this hatch and turns on two large columns to the Ukrainian troops, azan (Muslim prayer, read five times a day — author's note). And ukroarmiya is still firmly convinced that in front of them in Semenovka is 1500 Chechens. But he did not see, but people told, this Motorola ran along this slope above Semenovka, where there is a psychiatric hospital Semenovskaya. Shells on the slope were torn, and he, with a red megaphone, shouted into a megaphone to the Ukrainian artillerymen that they were not able to shoot obliques. Well, obscene words. And he, as it were, is engaged in the moral character of his fighters. It is clear that the people there, in the militia, are different, the troops are irregular. Kosjachniki and breeders just have to be. But I can say that the militia is a very real prohibition. For all the time I saw only one drunk ... and then - in the hospital, a fragment fell between his ribs, and it was not drunkenness, but anesthesia. And Motorola - he has two methods of treating alcoholism: a shot between his legs and a shot in the leg. Without relapses hem from drinking. Approximately also he cured a local resident, who remained in Semenovka because he is a complete alcoholic and an asocial type. In addition, he tried to look for companions among the fighters. Motorola said that after the "encoding" a man came to life in his eyes. He began to make his way with a fishing rod, past mortar explosions on the reservoir, to fish, in general, he was transformed. Saved man.
  98. 0
    6 July 2014 16: 28
    Новороссия не сдается. Держитесь ребята, бейте хунту!
  99. 0
    6 July 2014 16: 38
    После отхода Стрелкова из Славянка правящая верхушка России попала в сложное положение.

    Не смотря на всю истерию в российских СМИ, озабоченности, высказанные дипломатами, и военные учения, проводящиеся на границах Украины, никакой серьёзной адекватной помощи Новороссии, способной изменить баланс сил в регионе, оказано не было. Таким образом, попав в окружение и потеряв ключевые узлы сопротивления, ополченцы вчера вынуждены были отойти к Донецку. Это не стало ни для кого большой неожиданностью, о военной целесообразности сдачи Славянска я, например, писал не далее как позавчера, за день до прорыва.

    Равно как и не вызывает никакого удивления пассивность России.
    О том, что президенту Путину не нужен Восток, я писал ещё 5 марта по мотивам его пресс-конференции. Потом, начиная с апреля, многократно писал о том же, например, тут, тут и тут. Разумеется, о том, что ополчение Новороссии проигрывает военную кампанию, стало понятно многим, в том числе и мне, ещё тогда, когда вовсю звучали бравурные реляции о победах на Восточном фронте.

    В самом деле, с учётом приближающего экономического краха Украины, ввязываться сейчас в войну - стратегически безграмотно, и Путин в этом отношении поступает правильно. Ибо иначе те сотни или тысячи погибших (на данный момент) мирных жителей покажутся детской забавой на фоне сотен тысяч, которые могут погибнуть.

    But there is one BUT.
    Поднятая в СМИ истерия на тему "наших бьют" и "зверств бандеровцев" сыграла с россиянской властью злую шутку. Сдача Славянска на фоне невмешательства России теперь воспринимается населением исключительно как предательство национальных интересов. Получается "они молодцы, а мы подлецы".

    Кроме того, не стоит забывать и о том, что, несмотря на надувшийся, на фоне присоединения Крыма, рейтинг "нашего королька", никаких внутренних российских проблем так и не решено. Проблемы с коррупцией и бесправным положением русских на фоне национальных окраин и, даже, мигрантов никуда не делись. А тут ещё и премьером ДНР стал некто Бородай, гражданин, мягко говоря, оппозиционно настроенный и, мало того, ещё и связанный с русскими националистами. "В обчем, дело принимает социяльный оборот".

    И вот как раз в этот "криктический момент" своё могучее плечо, хотя его об этом никто и не просил, решил подставить власти С.Е. Кургинян. В прошлом сей господинчик уже неоднократно оказывал подобные услуги правящей либеральной верхушке, имитируя оппозицию и делая попытки легитимизации последних выборов в государственную думу, которые были фальсифицированы в пользу ПЖиВ. Кроме того, запомнилась его борьба с русскими националистами и его проповеди, разоблачающие, например, такого известного "русского" "националиста" как Стасик Белковский. Конечно, на самом деле, у Стасика Белковского отец поляк, мать - еврейка, а сам Стасик уже не один десяток лет русофобствует на разнообразных либеральных ресурсах. Но, когда партия сказала "надо", либерал ответил - "есть", и срочно стал русским националистом, с успехом разоблачаемым гражданином Кургиняном.
    1. 0
      6 July 2014 18: 15
      Я не пойму, в чем психоз, за первый квартал Украина недобрала в бюджет 11.5млрд$.
      Все кредиты ЕС/CША в текущем году 18.5млрд$. Осталось продержаться полтора - два месяца и Новороссия быть, а при слаженной работе падёт и хунта.
  100. de bouillon
    -5
    6 July 2014 17: 10
    камни брошены

    после истерики Курягина, где тот обвиняет Стрелкова в предательстве и родину продал америке...

    появился текст Эдуарда Багирова, доверенного лица Путина ВВ

    Returning to Girkin, which is Strelkov. Until recently, I had a restrained attitude towards him, speaking restrainedly. He has a position, it is completely outlined, and he is ready to die for it; or, more precisely, to put any number of any people - soldiers of the caricature army of Ukraine, their subordinates, and just civilians: he obviously does not care who to put for this position. But I am a confidant of Putin, not Girkin. And I will never be positive about a person who is trying to substitute Putin with outright provocations or provocative statements. In general, this rudeness wildly infuriates me. Girkin is fighting there not for Russia, but for himself. Or for the DNI, or for the Liberal Democratic Party, or hell still knows - for what, but not for Russia. And for me, Russia is more important than Donbass: I generally believe that Donbass is not our Russian Crimea, and Russia, in any case, doesn’t need horseradish, and we definitely do not have to fight there. What is there to fight, explain to me? Why put our soldiers? For ambition, excuse me, Girkin? The borders are always open for Ukrainian Russians - come to your health, almost entire government programs are already in place to help refugees from there, and without any programs we will always help our own. But Girkin does not seem to be his own. Russia has a leader, he is the Supreme Commander-in-Chief: this is President Vladimir Putin. And no Girkin dares to point him out or provoke him to solve his small-town problems. Russia is larger than the Donbass and much more important, and for all, without exception, Russians. Therefore, Girkin either follows the recommendations from Moscow, or pretty soon shares the fate of Sasha Muzychko: the Kiev junta will destroy him like a flea, she won’t even have time to blather. And no one will even regret it. In the history of such precedents, there are many.

    https://www.facebook.com/eduardbagirov/posts/10152500451882708

    так что рекомендую нос к верху следовать по курсу
    1. +2
      6 July 2014 17: 15
      Quote: de Bouillon
      появился текст Эдуарда Багирова, доверенного лица Путина ВВ

      Ну Багиров конечно очень авторитетный человек. Махровый русофоб, шовинист, педофил, да еще оказывается о "доверенное" лицо Путина:

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"