Reports from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich 4-5 July 2014 of the year

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Reports from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich 4-5 July 2014 of the year


Yesterday at 10: 25

Summary from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich


"Nikolayevka is surrounded. There is no connection with the garrison. Continuous shelling of Semenovka, Nikolayevka, CHP continues. The number of spent shells is such that it has not been seen in Chechnya.

At night, Slavyansk was repeatedly fired by howitzers. The population was in a panic. All curse Kiev, Poroshenko and ... Russia. Which gave hope and left to the mercy of punitive.

I ask readers not to "grab a straw," rejoicing at some downed plane or downed tank: ukrov have so many of them that you can knock out 10 every day - there will be less. They crush with a continuous stream of armor and shells. Infantry is practically not used - it only cleans populated areas that have been practically reduced to land. Pure genocide. If Russia does not enter into business in the very near future, Novorossia will die in the very near future.

Slavyansk will die much earlier than everyone else.

Oh by the way ... our supply is completely interrupted. So you can safely send the unloading, boots, night vision devices and everything else - they will not reach us anymore.

The shelling of the city continues. "

Yesterday at 11: 03

Post press service DNR


"In Donetsk, the artillery cannonade is clearly audible from Karlovka-Krasnogorovka. The shelling began half an hour ago."

Yesterday at 12: 09

Overview of the combat situation of the militia


"In Slavyansk, Nikolaevka there are serious interruptions in electricity and communications, and the situation with water is not known. What is the situation there by morning is not known, information is coming in from other points that with 07: 30-45 (MSK) in Nikolayevka battles resumed , so far, it is reliably known about the shelling of Nikolaevka.
Over Donetsk, Gorlovka and in the places of the DB again flew Drones.
Somewhere with 6: 00 (local) in the morning, battles began in the area of ​​Karlovka and the airport (Donetsk), echoes are heard. The shelling began in the early morning.
08: 30 (MSK) According to unspecified information, the launch of the MLRS package for Nikolaevka was made.
09:10 (Moscow time) I went to the Karachun region aviation.
10: 00 (MSC) Some details of the night from the places of the database. In the morning, about four and seven (seats) fired at Kramatorsk with the MLRS. In the area of ​​machine tool was a clash. Dolby Semenovka. Our Karachun also badly floated. Now dill ironed TPP, apparently, they want to destroy it completely. "

Yesterday at 12: 33

Igor Ivanovich Strelkov's answer to one of the sofa analysts


"The junta is not marking time. The shells are raining down on our positions in Semenovka. And we are completely surrounded. But from the side you can see, of course ... From the sofa."

Yesterday at 12: 51

Militias report:


“In the morning, in the village of Netaylovo (near Donetsk), the militia’s tank was nicely“ touched ”by the Ukrainians’s armored vehicles - they recognized the 2 of the destroyed BTR (in reality, many times more).

In Lugansk - everything also, everything in its place, info about the battles in the city - disinformation.

Border crossings - are kept, in particular, Izvarino, about the capture of which the Ukrainians blew their trumpets yesterday (their next disinformation) "

Yesterday at 12: 58

Comment from I. I. Strelkova


“The DNR has about the same strength in the entire region as in our brigade. And our brigade is two-thirds concentrated in Slavyansk. If we do not have the strength to even defend the perimeter and have to retreat all the time, what should we expect from the rest? Do not give up Donetsk, hoping to unlock Slavyansk?
The worst weapon ukrov now-artillery. And tanks. There are a lot of them. Highly. Too much. And shells - "heaps". We have nothing to oppose them. And even if we had enough tanks and guns, then where would we find shells on them? A machine gun without cartridges and a mortar without mines will not fire! Slavyansk was blocked for more than a month and the supply was extremely limited. At night, "gazelles" do not train much. And there is nothing, especially, to carry something bylo ".

Yesterday at 13: 24

Message from Motorolla Militia


"Everyone who asked about Motorola - write that everything is all right with him. Nikolaevka has not yet passed."

Yesterday at 13: 57

The message of local residents about Nikolayevka


A resident of the neighboring village of Nikolayevka, Konstantinovka, Donetsk region, said that fierce fighting continued in the area. As a result of massive shelling by the Ukrainian military from residential installations "Grad" and "Uragan" of residential areas, several multi-storey buildings were destroyed, a thermal power station was burned.

"There are a lot of damages. There are many wounded. At the moment, the number of victims is counted. Everything is spread there in feathers and feathers. Many people went through Nikolayevka (east, evacuating from the war), but now it is impossible to leave, that is, people from Slavyansk are completely cut and they can't go anywhere else. But at the same time, NIKOLAEVKA IS STILL UNDER CONTROL OF OFFENSION. "

Yesterday at 14: 04

Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich


"The names of the commanders-traitors who took the company from Nikolayevka, exposed the front, which put the militia in Nikolayevka in jeopardy and led to victims among the militias:

The call sign "Miner" - Igor Igor Ivanovich

The call sign "Filin" - Alexander Vasilchenko ".

Yesterday at 14: 29

Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich


"Our troops in Nikolayevka continue to fight in the environment, from the south on Semenovka moving column of armored vehicles of the enemy. For the shelling of the militia positions in Semenovka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, the enemy used more 50 guns, near 20 RSZO."

Yesterday at 14: 42

New interview with I. I. Strelkov


Strelkov awaits the destruction of Slavyansk within two weeks. Igor Strelkov said that during the announced truce, the Ukrainian armed forces transferred a large number of armored vehicles to the south-east. According to him, more than 60 heavy guns Ukrainian security forces are aimed at Semenovka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. Two dozen installations "Grad", "Smerch" and "Hurricane" are continuously shelling the city.

- There was a fiercest battle, great losses, while it’s impossible to talk about exact numbers. Our groups in Nikolaevka continue fights in an environment, there is no communication with them, - said Strelkov. - A column of enemy armored vehicles is moving from the south to Semenovka.

He also added that in three months the militia received no help. During the so-called truce, the Ukrainian army produced a complete concentration and mobilization of troops: more than 60 guns are now looking at Semenovka, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk.

- Two dozen installations "Grad", "Smerch" and "Hurricane", heavy mortars. The enemy has as many shells as I have never seen, ”said Strelkov. - Artillery is continuously working, supply columns of the enemy are continuously. In Kharkov, they repair daily 15 combat vehicles. We beat one or two a day.

According to the commander-in-chief of the southeast, the enemy manages to build up strength much faster than he spends them. Strelkov also confessed: if Russia does not achieve an immediate cease-fire, Slavyansk will be destroyed.

“If Russia does not conclude a truce or does not intervene with its armed forces for us, for the Russian people who live here, we will be destroyed,” said Strelkov with tears in his eyes. - It will happen within a week, maximum two. And Slavyansk with all its numerous population will be the first to be destroyed.

According to the head of the Donbass army, he and his fighters are ready to fight to the end, but the militias do not want to die senselessly and bury the people who believed them under the ruins of the city.

“Yes, I am panicked and nervous,” admitted Strelkov. “Soldiers die every day, hospitals are overwhelmed with the wounded.” It is very hard to see children without legs torn off by shells. We will fight, but we really need help.



Yesterday at 15: 00

Reports from places in the last hours


13: 50 (ISC) In Ilyichevka (near Yampol on the highway to Seversk) there is an intense battle.

14: 49 (ISC) In the village of Trekhizbenka (west of the city of Happiness), a bridge over the Seversky Donets was blown up. It was practically the only road not shelled from Ukraine to Ukraine.

Donetsk residents received information that after 14: 00 (Donetsk time) the city will be turned off water indefinitely. Request to residents to stock up on water.

Yesterday at 15: 55

Summary of the LC:


“According to the latest operational data, today in the first half of the day, the enemy placed three Grad multiple rocket launchers in a wheat field in the village of Oboznoye and Christovo, two calculations were deployed in the direction of Luhansk, one in the direction of the village of Lugansk. The installations were accompanied by six armored personnel carriers, ten trucks, minibuses and civilian vehicles. "

Yesterday at 16: 34

Summary of places


14: 00 (ISC). In the area of ​​Bogorodichny a reconnaissance aircraft is circling.
14: 15 (MSC) In Svyatogorsk, a huge number of armed men in sand camouflage and striped uniforms vests. They stop cars, inspect, speak Russian, it seems, from the Dnieper. People are dispersed to their homes, a drone is circling over the city.
14: 55 (MSC) There are reports that under Karlovka more than three enemy companies killed in the convoy were destroyed, there is no information about the number of wounded ukrokrateley.

Yesterday at 17: 17

Summary from Kramatorsk from the commandant of the city of Kim for 3 - July 4


3 July around 16: 30 in residential areas of the city in Ukrainian. the army produced at least 6 shells and mines. Shells fell in front of the children's boarding school on the street. Voznesensky (wounded man), near the Executive Committee, near the Treasury, at a residential building on ul. Lenin 24, as well as in the district of the hotel "Industry" (there are injured 6). In the evening, the fire was fought not at Kramatorsk, but at Slavyansk.
Today 4 July fire is also fought on the Slavic.
The shelling of Kramatorsk is most frequent: around 5-6 in the morning and in the evening. Please residents do not walk on the streets in the dark, as well as to know the nearest addresses of bomb shelters.



Yesterday at 18: 02

Overview of the combat situation of the militia


15: 35 (MSC) In Slavyansk there is no electricity at all, shelling is not as intensive as in Nikolaevka.
15: 45 (MSK) In Nikolaevka the thermal power plant is almost destroyed, they smash MKMZ. Unspecified information arrives that children from the Amvrosievsky orphanage, loaded into two buses to leave for Russia, were seized by the National Security Councils and are now heading towards Mariupol.
16: 20 (ISC) The military unit, near which a Russian journalist was killed during the shelling of a bus with soldiers' mothers, taken at night by the militia, is completely under the control of the DPR. In part there are good air defense systems in working condition.

Yesterday at 19: 12

Video message from Slavyansk from the militia Alexey Dobychina


"Bandera intentionally bombarded the residential sector of the city of Slavyansk. As a result of shelling there are killed and wounded civilians"



Yesterday at 19: 50

Message from Fedor Berezin, Deputy I. I. Strelkov


The junta conducts training for civilians.
In order for the residents of Donetsk and the surrounding area not to be bored, the Hunts from Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk periodically thresh from automatic machines for all kinds of vehicles. For example ... This cute gazelka unexpectedly lost its presentation. And it was like this ...
The roadblock stood on the outskirts of Donetsk, and suddenly it looks, and there ... Two avtomobilchikas rush towards the post - Vaz and Audi. Before reaching the post a hundred meters, the cars began to turn around and ... at the same time ... shoot from automatic weapons. Bullets fall into a completely civilian BIBIK. Caliber 7,62, 5,45 (photo 3). Here are the inlets: (photo 4) Here is the weekend: (photo 5)
Clearly this is not all, there are others: (6 photo)
Well, as usual. That is ... And here is the blood, without it, nowhere, right?
As a result, two civilians in the hospital. One woman and one man (sat behind the wheel).
The militia of the checkpoint tried to pursue the attackers, but on the road they began to shoot out of Zelenka. The weapons were tight, so people had to retreat. Both civilians have already had a surgery.
*
Naturally, maydauny declare that all this is filmed in Mosfilm.










Yesterday at 20: 32

Eyewitnesses from Slavyansk report:


"Slavyansk is being poured all the time, the Artema area is sighting. On the 46 street, the floor of the house turned upside down. There are dead and wounded, mostly old people."

Yesterday at 20: 37

Post news channel LiifeNews


Slavyansk was subjected to fierce shelling, killing 6 people, mostly old people. As a result of the attack, a multi-storey residential building was destroyed, the number of victims is constantly growing.
On July XNUM, Ukrainian punitive continued shelling of Slavyansk and its environs. As a result of the attack, according to preliminary data, 4 people died. These are mostly elderly people. The exact number of those killed will be determined when rescuers dismantle the rubble of destroyed buildings.
From many apartments of local residents there is practically nothing left. In the courtyard of one of the houses is a huge reinforced concrete slab, torn by the explosions of shells. Locals are in shock.

“The dead are our neighbors.” We all know each other. It is very hard for me to talk about it. These creatures that are in Western Ukraine, destroy us. Semenovka bombed every day. I work there at the landfill and see the whole nightmare and horror that is happening. I am a former soldier, but I have never seen anything like this, ”says a resident of Slavyansk.

In the private sector, several houses are completely destroyed. Broken bricks, pieces of slate and twisted metal are scattered everywhere. The ground is dug by the shells that hit it. In the gardens scattered exploded mines. Many locals have already left the city. There are mostly old people left, they simply have nowhere to go. In Slavyansk and the surrounding area, rescuers work. They make out the rubble.

- In my apartment the wall fell. During the shelling of smoke. I gasped, I thought, now I will fall. “I don’t know how I went down, I’m barely able to walk, I can’t move at all without a wand,” said an elderly local resident.

During the last shelling of Slavyansk the water tower was severely damaged. Several holes were formed in it, of which water spurts powerful jets. In the high-rise buildings in the city itself, as well as in houses in the private sector, windows are broken and walls are destroyed. In one of them gaping hole with a diameter of more than half a meter.

Earlier, the head of the DPR army Igor Strelkov said that the Ukrainian army is going to wipe Slavyansk off the face of the earth in the next two weeks. He added that during the truce announced, the Ukrainian armed forces transferred a large number of armored vehicles to the south-east. According to him, more than 60 heavy guns Ukrainian security forces are aimed at Semenovka, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. Two dozen installations "Grad", "Smerch" and "Hurricane" are continuously shelling the city.



Yesterday at 21: 11

Reported correspondent G. Dubovoy from Slavyansk:


"Today, July 4 continues shelling of Semenovka and Nikolayevka near Slavyansk from Gradov and Uragans. Nikolayevka seems to be waiting for Semenovka’s fate, which has been bombed to the ground. The goal of the Ukrainian troops now is not only the destruction of vital facilities, infrastructure and the killing of civilians The goal is to completely de-energize Slavyansk, deprive it of communication with the outside world.

It became clear how Ukrainian warriors jammed the connection under Slavic. A mine is thrown, from which thin wires diverge, which clings to the communications wires with a grid. This grid blocks the connection, and it is very strong - you just can’t remove it.

Yesterday, July 3, two drying near Semenovka unexpectedly well "walked" on the Ukrainian positions. What was it? Bombed by their mistake? Maybe. And there are other possible causes of this event. "

Yesterday at 22: 24

Message from the militia


"Information comes from Nikolayevka of the following nature: In Nikolaevka, the Ukropov National Guilds were able to occupy and gain a foothold on the outskirts of Nikolayevka from two sides and commit atrocities on the outskirts. And the first information and the second comes from the field, therefore it is reasonable to say that there is no complete control over Nikolaevka. a lot of buildings, including TPPs, are now sort of calm, some of them manage to catch a weak signal and report to the "big land".

Yesterday at 23: 31

Summary of the last hours of the militia


According to Seversk shelling, in Lugansk the main events at the Metalworker.
19: 35 (MSC) For Kramatorsk: after 19: 00 (local) to be ready to move to air-raid shelters, dill was pulled to Kramatorsk by equipment.
20: 10 (ISC) A series of explosions are heard in the airport area (Donetsk). Also heard the gaps in the area of ​​Karlovka ..
20: 55 (MSC). Shooting resumed at the Donetsk airport, heard the gaps from artillery and grenade launchers.
22: 20 (MSC) Slavyansk is hit with MLRS.
22: 25-40 (MSC) In Artyomovsk, the prosecution is fighting, or rather, it has resumed.

Yesterday at 23: 57

SMS priest: Kiev Nazis cleaned settlements "Gradami" to the ground


Blogger sotrudnic reported:
SMS came from our deacon. I quote without cuts:

"We and Big Vergunka were on fire. Grads and tornadoes worked. They gave 6 an hour. Leave home. Then there is a hard hail sweep. Forgive me for everything and I forgive. Connect the media, they kill us."

We ask publicity!

Today in 0: 46

Locals report:


"The shelling of Kramatorsk began with the Ukrainian army."

"By Slavyansk strikes with MLRS."

Today in 0: 58

Residents of Nikolaevka report


Ukrainian military at Nikolaevka’s checkpoint in the DPR without warning firing at vehicles of civilians who are trying to leave the city.
Civilians are shelled in defiance of the agreement and the promise of the Ukrainian military to freely let in those who want to leave Nikolaevka. Eyewitnesses to the events reported that the cars of literally everyone leaving are under fire. It is now being clarified whether the actions of the Ukrainian military led to the death and injury of people.

Today in 0: 59

Brain Summary


"Today, the enemy convoy with heavy weapons, which moved from Artyomovsk, was repulsed by the Popasnyanskiy checkpoint. At the same time, near the village of Varvarovka, where Msta-S and other heavy weapons were located, the mortar group worked out the enemy’s positions. There are no losses among the mortar group. "

Today in 1: 28

Message from eyewitnesses:


"In the area of ​​the Baku Commissars Square (Donetsk) there is clearly heard shooting, large-caliber (like KVPT), ​​machine guns and explosions. The direction is from the railway station - Shchorsa."

According to some information, an operation "East" is being carried out at the railway station in the Amstor area.

Today in 3: 20

Admission News July 4, 2014


Tonight during the air raid of the Ukrainian 3 army, the shells hit the Luhansk Oncologic Dispensary building. The medical staff together with the patients managed to hide in the basements, no one was hurt.
In Lugansk, the local school No. 7 suffered when a shell was torn apart, where local residents were hiding. Fortunately, there are no victims.
In Donetsk, from the side of Karlovka-Krasnogorovka, an artillery cannonade was heard. In the area of ​​the airport in the building of the old terminal, the militia blocked the National Guard under the militants.
On the eve of the battles near Donetsk, the Slavyanskaya TPP was seriously damaged.
In Nikolaevka, during a rocket attack, a fire broke out at a local thermal power plant, several buildings were also badly damaged.
According to the press service of the LC, as a result of the fighting from 2 to 4 in July, 125 Ukrainian soldiers were killed in the territory of the LC. Reportedly, the militia destroyed the 1 installation "Grad", mortar battery, 2 BTR, 4 tank, 3 BMP, 4 howitzers and 3 aircraft of the Ukrainian armed forces.

Today in 4: 26

Photos from the militia. Slavyansky district, Nikolaevka after shelling of the Ukrainian army


On July 3, the Ukrainian army opened massive fire on residential areas of Nikolaevka under Slavyansk. As a result of the shelling, residential buildings and the CHP station were destroyed in the city, shells hit the school and kindergarten. The number of dead and wounded civilians is not known.










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  1. +26
    5 July 2014 05: 35
    I’m just AFRAID of reading the news from Strelkov ... the blood is getting cold. And the understanding that the terrible is killing ahead ...
    1. +6
      5 July 2014 07: 25
      Priest's SMS: Kiev Nazis are cleaning settlements with "Grads" to the ground

      SMS came from our deacon. I quote without cuts:

      "We and Big Vergunka are on fire. Hailings and tornadoes worked. We were given 6 hours to leave our homes. Then a harsh hail sweep. Forgive me for everything and I forgive. Connect the media killing us."

      July 4, 21:18 Lugansk

      PS If I go and the valley of the shadow of death, I will not fear evil, because You are with me ...
      Dmitry Dzygovbrodsky
    2. irat
      +15
      5 July 2014 07: 48
      Why the Russian authorities do not protect SE?
      It must be remembered that in Russia and the future Novorossiya two different, fundamentally hostile socio-economic formations. DPR and LPR are the People's (!) Republics.
      Russia, although socialist consciousness still sits in the minds of many of its ordinary citizens, is now a capitalist country, where the ruling elite is obliged to serve the interests of capital, i.e. the oligarchs, not the people. This is the law and it cannot be otherwise! And when in any capitalist country the authorities say at elections: "We are with the people!" is, in essence, PR. Under capitalism, the people are little people who can be foolish, used in their own interests as, for example, cannon fodder, playing on patriotic feelings, sometimes roll the dice so as not to raise uprisings. Capitalism is an art of balancing between the threat of revolution and the possibility of further enrichment of an insignificant part of the population. The Russian people sincerely want to help the people of the SE, but the state, represented by the oligarchs, is not simply not interested in this.
    3. +20
      5 July 2014 08: 21
      SMS came from our deacon. I quote without cuts:

      "We and Big Vergunka were on fire. Grads and tornadoes worked. They gave 6 an hour. Leave home. Then there is a hard hail sweep. Forgive me for everything and I forgive. Connect the media, they kill us."

      We ask publicity!

      "Thank you" to our media for the publicity! "Thank you" Putin for not forgetting to congratulate Obama on the US independence day.
    4. +8
      5 July 2014 09: 03
      Everyone somehow missed this news:
      14:55 (MSC) There is information that more than three companies of the enemy, who were following in the convoy, were destroyed near Karlovka;

      And this is about 450 soldiers and officers with equipment.
      1. +4
        5 July 2014 09: 20
        Quote: Sith Lord
        14:55 (Moscow time) There is information that more than three enemy companies following in the convoy were destroyed near Karlovka, there is no information about the number of wounded

        You need to shoot such a video, otherwise you can’t break the blockade.
        1. +3
          5 July 2014 11: 19
          And this news is somehow lost:
          Also, from July 2 to 4, 2014, the armed forces of the Lugansk People's Republic destroyed one Grad installation, a mortar battery, 2 armored personnel carriers, 4 tanks, 3 infantry fighting vehicles, 4 howitzers and 3 aggressor aircraft. In three days, the LPR Army eliminated 125 punishers.

          Beginning July 2, the enemy carried out almost continuous artillery and mortar shelling of a number of cities and towns in the Luhansk region, including the suburbs of the capital. The LPR Army’s return fire destroyed the officer’s tent, equipped with air conditioning, a satellite dish and communication system elements.

          Also, Lugansk scouts managed to track down and neutralize the enemy’s mobile command post based on the trailer semitrailer, equipped with space communications and surveillance elements.
          July 3, on the day of the barbaric bombing of the village of Staraya Kondrashovka, LPR reconnaissance revealed the movement routes and accumulations of armored vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, 2 Ukrainian tanks were captured.

          On July 4, the Ukrainian Armed Forces continued to conduct continuous mortar and artillery shelling. The enemy’s military transport aircraft conducted reconnaissance around the Luhansk airport, still held by units of the Ukrainian army. Ukrainian subversive groups acted in the direction of the village of Aleksandrovsk.

          For its part, units of the LPR army concentrated on two tasks: the defense of Lugansk and the Izvarino checkpoint on the border with Russia. The return fire of Lugansk residents destroyed the checkpoint of Ukrainian troops near the village of Makarov, destroyed the mortar and howitzer.
          Heavy fighting continues to this day near the Izvarino checkpoint. "
      2. +4
        5 July 2014 10: 32
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And this is about 450 soldiers and officers with equipment.

        Tough guys are fighting! Without support, in the conditions of the overwhelming superiority of the enemy, they inflict powerful blows on punishers, destroying them with battalions. You can’t even believe that militias are fighting, essentially civilians.
        God help you!
    5. +4
      5 July 2014 09: 30
      And where is our guarantor with the pompous promise to protect Russians all over the world?
      1. +17
        5 July 2014 10: 13
        Quote: Giant thought
        And where is our guarantor with the pompous promise to protect Russians all over the world?

        And this does not mean that if somewhere in Thailand, one Russian is hit on the forehead, then "Poplars" will immediately fly to Thailand. I hear only one thing from the videos of the injured people: "They are killing us! They, this junta, is killing OWN people ! .. and so on. ".. That is, they now refer to themselves as Ukraine .. Russia is helping now with what it can. The VPP is considered an" oligarch ", as many have tried in recent days - generally bullshit !! But for me personally ..- I don’t remember when it was hard for Russia in Chechnya and South Ossetia and the Bislan attacks, etc. Something at that time I did not hear at all, at least in the information field, at least in a whisper, statements from the South-Eastern regions of Ukraine about support for Russia .. Something I did not hear about the volunteers of the Donbass in Chechnya, when our unharmed boys died in thousands ( !) .. Now at least fill up with minuses .. But even now the GDP is acting correctly. That in Ukraine massive blood will be shed .. for me it was clear 10 years ago! Because they themselves chose all these little guys to power .. I don’t see from the people of the South-East about the support of their leaders .. Tsarev ran into Putin, like "promised, but does not help" .. Can Tsarev ask himself? What the hell was he jumping, after the Maidan and Odessa, to Kiev ?? Until he was arrested there? And only then he began to say that he was with the South-East? And now Putin and Russia are to blame for them ???? Previously, it was necessary to scratch your balls !!!! The elections of the SE held "On separation from Ukraine and independence" and not on joining Russia .. and even now I do not hear from the people there that they want to live with Russia! What the hell is this? ? !! - "Help Russia! And then we ourselves want to!" ..- For me it means ... that if Russia suddenly becomes ill .. that on their part it will be "my house is on the edge !!" .. In general, we help as much as we can. A military presence is possible, for now, only by a decision of the UN.
        1. +7
          5 July 2014 10: 44
          Quote: skrgar
          And now Putin is to blame for them and Russia?

          Yes, in general, everything was correctly turned:
          The "Grad" is hammering on the population - it is Putin's fault.

          Previously, Putin personally "knocked out" the tanks and aircraft of the junta, and now he is on the side of this very junta winding up the Gradov aiming knobs. Oh, this is the mass consciousness ... At this rate, the junta will arrange a tribunal for him, well, for the "murder" of the civilian population of Ukraine, and this most peaceful population will approve of everything - "It was so - Putin is to blame!"
          1. +1
            5 July 2014 12: 36
            Quote: huut
            Quote: skrgar
            And now Putin is to blame for them and Russia?

            Yes, in general, everything was correctly turned:
            The "Grad" is hammering on the population - it is Putin's fault.

            Previously, Putin personally "knocked out" the tanks and aircraft of the junta, and now he is on the side of this very junta winding up the Gradov aiming knobs. Oh, this is the mass consciousness ... At this rate, the junta will arrange a tribunal for him, well, for the "murder" of the civilian population of Ukraine, and this most peaceful population will approve of everything - "It was so - Putin is to blame!"

            Aha! And even yesterday, in Slavyansk .. So people whose relatives were torn to pieces by explosions shout "Putin, help me! Poroshenko! -You don't see what they are doing! Come and see !!" .. That is, then there will be something for them Putin is an enemy and a traitor ... and Poroshenko is a lamb who simply did not know anything !! And when then the "Right Sector" and the National Guard (criminals, the sea) begin to rape their young daughters .. That, too, the National Guard will be to blame for them, "Right Sector" and Putin! And Poroshenko .. yes to me wines without knowing anything !!! Checkered ..
        2. +2
          5 July 2014 14: 34
          The first in my opinion koment with a sober assessment.
        3. Vtel
          -1
          5 July 2014 15: 17
          Let's see what’s going to be around the corner, Igor Ivanovich telling the truth - Russia, wherever there are Russian people, Novorossia will fall today, and tomorrow they will take up big Russia, for so long the masons want to destroy Orthodox Russia. As for the GDP, it is said in the Bible - according to their deeds you will see them who they are sheep or wolves in the skin of sheep.
        4. 0
          5 July 2014 22: 07
          Quote: skrgar
          .In general, we help as much as we can. And a military presence is possible, so far, only by decision of the UN.

          Which will not be. US in UN Security Council has Veto ...
      2. +4
        5 July 2014 10: 33
        Quote: Thought Giant
        And where is our guarantor with the pompous promise to protect Russians all over the world?

        Soon the fairy tale affects, but not soon the thing is done ...
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    7. -1
      5 July 2014 16: 35
      If the GDP leaves Novorossia in trouble, God himself and I will tell my sons that they would not dare to vote for these people for them the life of a Russian person is dust! Their well-being is above the interest of the people and the state, he gave us an instant to believe that we were on our feet, and immediately kills this dream! Why did Catherine the Great stop appearing in Russia, Peter 1, I don’t believe that the earth has become scarce with worthy people, deep down I hope that we didn’t make a mistake GDP. If he doesn’t let us down, we will turn mountains down for him!
      1. 0
        5 July 2014 20: 31
        Quote: kod3001
        If the GDP leaves Novorossia in trouble, God himself and I will tell my sons that they would not dare to vote for these people for them the life of a Russian person is dust! Their well-being is above the interest of the people and the state, he gave us an instant to believe that we were on our feet, and immediately kills this dream! Why did Catherine the Great stop appearing in Russia, Peter 1, I don’t believe that the earth has become scarce with worthy people, deep down I hope that we didn’t make a mistake GDP. If he doesn’t let us down, we will turn mountains down for him!
      2. 0
        5 July 2014 20: 37
        Be sure to tell your sons if the PVV does not send them to fight, and if they send I think there will be no one to say. But don’t worry, refugees will tell their sons about it.
  2. +16
    5 July 2014 05: 47
    And I have a feeling that over Russia already the whole of Europe and the West are laughing. I’m not even talking about the junta. How do they provoke, but the Russian Federation does not respond.
    1. +5
      5 July 2014 07: 40
      Julietto Chiesa: The situation is much more serious than it looks. The keys to the world are in Russia's hands
      Date: July 4, 2014. Topic Cognitive
      Http://www.Russiapost.Su/Archives/28362
    2. +5
      5 July 2014 08: 56
      I never thought that I would write it like that, but it’s a SHAME OF RUSSIA, yes they force me, well, knock your fist on the table so that the whole planet trembles, or does the oligarchy keep?
    3. Alf
      +1
      5 July 2014 16: 28
      Quote: DimSanych
      How do they provoke, but the Russian Federation does not respond.

      Why doesn’t react? He reacts very much, he sends notes on soft paper, but he starts things up.
      On our territory, the Nazis will soon arrange parades, and we will "express concern."
  3. +4
    5 July 2014 05: 49
    Dear Igor Ivanovich, will they really not help you? I do not lose hope that there will be help. May my words become reality. God help you.
    1. +31
      5 July 2014 06: 10
      Quote: shishakova
      Dear Igor Ivanovich, will they really not help you?

      There will be no help. And there will be no deployment of peacekeeping troops. This is clear from all Kremlin policies over the past month.
      Putin did not have the heart to start a tough policy towards the Kiev junta. Crimea does not count. This is just a confluence of circumstances beyond the Kremlin's control, which our authorities have successfully used. And after Crimea, Putin was “blown away”. At first they decided whether to turn off the gas or not. Kiev openly sneered at Moscow, and Moscow, represented by Miller, persuaded the Ukrainians to pay for the supplies. Although it was clear that they were not going to pay. But Miller has his own monetary interest. How many times did he threaten to cut off gas supplies to Ukraine and the same number of times the terms were postponed. Ukraine did not pay, but the gas went through the pipe. This means that Gazprom has an interest (not a state one) and the question is who is still involved in this “interest”.
      Then the hope that after the presidential elections in Ukraine it will be possible to conduct a dialogue with them. What kind of dialogue is possible with the junta? From the very beginning, the Kremlin had to take an unambiguously tough stance towards Kiev. Do not carry on bar-rastabars with him. The best dialogue with the Nazis is the absence of any dialogue. They sent Poroshenko Zurabov to the "inauguration". At least someone was sent. There was no need to send anyone at all. The Kiev government is illegitimate and its "president" too. And we also learned the price of all the assurances and promises of Poroshenko.
      Donetsk, Lugansk, Slavyansk would not have begun their struggle if Russia had not promised them help and support. The fight is being waged, but help and support from Russia? I think the last appeal Strelkova eloquently talks about everything. Why has Russia still not recognized the republic of Novorossia?
      Ukraine is shelling our territories, and Russia, in response, sends "notes" and starts another criminal case. Do investigators have no jobs? Is it too weak to send a dozen larger calibers to a projectile that has arrived from behind the "hillock"? Are we afraid of sanctions? Or do we believe that the Ukrainian artillerymen "made a mistake" in the tip?
      Many on the forum write that it is criminal to send our army to Novorossiya, where untrained 18-year-old boys will give their lives for another state and, calling their opponents "couch" warriors, accuse them (including me) of cowardice and urge us themselves to go to Novorossiya to fight. But excuse me, what kind of army we have, that we are fighting. Or has the mobilization and recruitment of volunteers already been announced in our country? And no one thinks that the partisan war that the riflemen are now waging will ultimately lead to their defeat. There is no single competent leadership in conducting operations. Each commander is on his own. Because there is no assistance from Russia at the STATE level. Yes, Russia helps Novorossia, but at the level of volunteering and various forms of private assistance. And there is no full-scale government interaction.
      To be continued.
      1. +32
        5 July 2014 06: 18
        Quote: Kombitor
        To be continued.

        And why does anyone think that Russia needs to be protected only within its borders?
        Americans defend their America around the world. Now the time has come when the interests and fate of the state, which claims to recognize its authority throughout the world, are decided far from its external borders. And Novorossia, excuse me - this is close at all, one might say - from the other side. No wonder the new Minister of Defense of Ukraine announced that he would hold a parade in Sevastopol. Is it in vain that Dzhemilev received a "prize" from the West? Western "curators" will ask for every dollar-euro. We’ll give Novorossia without a fight, we’ll have to fight for the Crimea for real.
        Is the level of training of the soldiers different? Then, excuse me, who "pre-reformed" our army to the point that it turned into a sanatorium?
        Last year my wife and I organized a children's excursion to one of the military units. I saw a conscript soldier. Yes, if they put on full combat gear, they won't even run a 100-meter distance. We entered the dining room: there is no outfit, a cleaning lady washes the floors, food is prepared by guest workers, a civilian chef, a buffet and tables for four, like in a restaurant. Plus, there is also a "quiet hour". At checkpoint-1, a squad headed by a duty officer is engaged in something: online games, crosswords, "classmates". All kind of rumpled, unkempt. The form is not fitted. Probably they don't know what a needle and thread looks like.
        If the army is not able to protect the interests of the state, then why such an army? Why am I paying my taxes on her? So that in the event of any conflict, to pick up arms yourself and go to war? I’ll go, but only when they call and give up arms.
        In the meantime, we have the "invincible and legendary", which the people support at their own expense. Let it work out.
        Let’s hand over Novorossia - we will hand over Russia. Time works against us.
        And Strelkov and his fighters courage, endurance, long life and, finally, wait for help from the Kremlin.
        It turned out somewhat messy. But the meaning is clear.
        1. +1
          5 July 2014 07: 32
          That's right. Alas.
        2. +14
          5 July 2014 09: 22
          I apologize, but I think that you are crap. If a soldier does not build cottages and does not do auxiliary work, he has time for combat training. The past all teachings have confirmed this. Even 10 years ago, such exercises would end in shame. When in 2002 our unit was raised on a training alert, half of the equipment died out along the way, and we were preparing for this alarm, and now the exercises of all the military branches have even gone super-smooth. As the level of our army grew after the reforms of the evil stool, Western publications of experts show well. If before they laughed at our army, now they’re really afraid. And do not tell me about the great army collapsed by an evil stool. I myself saw that in the 90s she was not combat-ready, in 2005-2010 she was limitedly combat-ready, and now she is completely ready for battle. You can stop the tantrum, the army will be applied, and you will see plenty of war on TV, you can take beer and popcorn. But this will be done only when it ensures victory, and not when the people shout louder. I feel sorry for ukrov, it looks like an inexperienced player sat down to play with gamblers at the resort. First, he is always given to win so that there is excitement and he did not leave the game, and then they bred like a doshirak. If ukrov had brains, they would have risen from the table having lost 2 provinces, but they started to have excitement, they are attracted by a close victory, they go all the way. Poor guys. And as for the loss of militias, let's honestly, most of them are not citizens of the Russian Federation and their GDP security is of little concern. This is a war, they are killing it, they want a better future for their families — they will fight. At the same time, every resident of New Russia will decide for whom he is, because when the war is already at their place and they can’t stay in safety.
          1. -5
            5 July 2014 10: 05
            Have you attended these exercises yourself? Have you seen these smooth successes? Or are you trying to get some information from TV people here? And in the 90s, a combat-ready army could not be. How can there be a combat-ready army in a ruined state. You did not forget what our grief reformers did in those years? That's the same. And the fact that the army began to transform into two thousandths, so what is surprising here?
          2. +4
            5 July 2014 11: 28
            Quote: g1v2
            I apologize, but I think that you are crap. If a soldier does not build cottages and does not do auxiliary work, he has time for combat training. The past all teachings have confirmed this. Even 10 years ago, such exercises would end in shame. When in 2002 our unit was raised on a training alert, half of the equipment died out along the way, and we were preparing for this alarm, and now the exercises of all the military branches have even gone super-smooth. As the level of our army grew after the reforms of the evil stool, Western publications of experts show well. If before they laughed at our army, now they’re really afraid. And do not tell me about the great army collapsed by an evil stool. I myself saw that in the 90s she was not combat-ready, in 2005-2010 she was limitedly combat-ready, and now she is completely ready for battle. You can stop the tantrum, the army will be applied, and you will see plenty of war on TV, you can take beer and popcorn. But this will be done only when it ensures victory, and not when the people shout louder. I feel sorry for ukrov, it looks like an inexperienced player sat down to play with gamblers at the resort. First, he is always given to win so that there is excitement and he did not leave the game, and then they bred like a doshirak. If ukrov had brains, they would have risen from the table having lost 2 provinces, but they started to have excitement, they are attracted by a close victory, they go all the way. Poor guys. And as for the loss of militias, let's honestly, most of them are not citizens of the Russian Federation and their GDP security is of little concern. This is a war, they are killing it, they want a better future for their families — they will fight. At the same time, every resident of New Russia will decide for whom he is, because when the war is already at their place and they can’t stay in safety.

            There would be an opportunity a hundred times plus. I agree with you.
        3. -1
          5 July 2014 09: 59
          I cannot but support you, as I agree with respect to most of your comments. In addition, in our country everyone knows who brought the army to a state of collapse. And those efforts of the current leadership to restore it, will not soon yield results. I'd like to believe that this will not happen again. With regards to New Russia. The entire Western community has already seen Russia's weakness. She told her to the West, she convincingly demonstrated herself. And here is the very public opinion that our diplomats were so worried about, we in the West have created against ourselves. By his indecision, by his constant speakingness in the absence of concrete actions. I do not want to talk a lot about it. And so everything is clear.
        4. leon7591
          -1
          5 July 2014 09: 59
          Commander, you're right! I subscribe to every word! And the army was turned into an opposing army, that the soldiers were not even able to serve themselves, and it was necessary to fight for Russia not on their territory, but outside it! Damn Parasenko with his henchmen and Obama with his sixes! And the shame on the head of our archistrategue, damn it, crap in front of the whole world, we only have time to wipe ourselves from spitting and slapping! And the junta was already completely insolent, they realized that nothing would happen to them, that’s why they are being expelled! Looks like Our supreme Americans are strong for me ... they are holding! Ugh, I can’t see him! Everything is convincing and justified, and the UK all criminal cases start! Laugh! ... through tears! Lord, hear our prayers and save Strelkov Igor Ivanovich, as well as all the fighters of anti-fascist resistance who are now fighting for Russia in New Russia! And repay to all the murderers and traitors of your people who kill and betray your children!
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        6. Finnish76
          +5
          5 July 2014 10: 18
          No buffets, too greasy for a military man, you give a mash of sauerkraut with a piece of fat floating in it, which is poured out of a rumpled, well-worn aluminum tank. What kind of cook is a guest worker, well, what does he cook well, you need an officer carrying food home or midshipman's little wife, but she's her own, dear. And in general, they go to the army not to learn Vus, but to wash the cockpits and study various types of sewing and sewing. But the demobilizer then uuuh, already breathtaking. needle and thread. "
      2. +2
        5 July 2014 11: 15
        The combinator! Everyone’s eggs will crack so that Russia breaks up !! And don’t dream! You’re carrying complete crap .. But rather, you’re just a troll! Of which I understand here a dime a dozen now ..
    2. +5
      5 July 2014 07: 43
      Everything that yesterday does not matter.
      Mom, I'm sorry, I'm going to the militia.
      No more strength to look at torment
      Our children.
      Enemy at the gate and no more time
      Father for son and son for father
      This is our home, we will go to the end.
      How and when will fascism fail
      Who will come to us with a sword will be beaten
      One nation will be free
      We can’t break us !!!
  4. SAVA555.IVANOV
    +30
    5 July 2014 05: 51
    We were simply "divorced" with these DNR, LNR, in order to destroy our houses and make room for gas production. And even if Russia helps it, even the pro-Russian citizens of Ukraine will not forgive.
    1. +6
      5 July 2014 05: 58
      Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
      .And even if Russia helps it, even pro-Russian citizens of Ukraine will not forgive anyway.

      it’s hard not to admit that you are right ... sorry ... request
      1. SAVA555.IVANOV
        +5
        5 July 2014 08: 07
        People like us should not feel guilty, but only annoyed for those who somehow become "at the helm" of our countries, we will share a piece of bread, but the Army is not our level. You will forgive us that when we die we hope for help.
        1. i'm from the past
          0
          6 July 2014 03: 16
          I’ll add a little, yes, we’re not worth the troop deployment. the miners are not the same, not only nariks and drunks are at war. the smart ones pulled much quieter-on TV like we'll see how it ends. those born at the age of 50 are not in combat uniform. that lit us up like suckers once again. one is happy-STIROL at the side-3 hydrogen sarcophagus, coupled with the remains of TNT and other nasty things will give the local CHROSIMA-we won’t be tormented. AMIN
      2. 0
        5 July 2014 21: 29
        Do you think the citizens of Russia will forgive you your couch generals? I am ashamed of the Russians, and this shame falls on all Russians. A handful of multimillion people came to the defense of women and children. And what about the rest in standby mode? They do not care about the undisguised grief in the neighboring town? They don’t hear a call for help? And are they Russian? No, they are Ukrainians.
        Now look for those guilty of your cowardice?
        Do not bother.
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    2. -3
      5 July 2014 08: 04
      Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV
      even if Russia helps it all the same, even pro-Russian citizens of Ukraine will not forgive

      And they will do the right thing! Damn you, Kremlin "strategists"!
      1. European
        -7
        5 July 2014 08: 21
        not really in Russia there are no military men who will put this Putin in his place! in my opinion it is necessary to take power in Russia by the military! and to drive these iPhones from Harvard. politicians sat in the service of the us!
        1. +5
          5 July 2014 11: 10
          One in one saw the same words on the censor, and that's how it is recognized who is who. As it turned out, the most dangerous 5th column is here, and not on the echo of Moscow. There are mostly talkers and intellectuals, but here are just people with military training. I think I will not be mistaken if I say that monitors are no worse than an echo. How quickly the speech changed, then after the Crimea. I’ll tell you a military secret, GDP doesn’t matter what you squeeze out of you in comments, it acts as it considers it more useful for the country, and not because it is forced by some sort of column. If necessary, enters troops, if not, suffers provocations. The guys from the KGB are not weak, but go to the goal, no matter how couch heroes perceive it. I’ll also reveal a secret - the whole world doesn’t give a damn about how it will look in the process, they will evaluate the result. As if this crisis did not end, we are in any way positive, and dill in a hard negative, we are only talking about the size of our plus and their minus.
          1. 0
            7 July 2014 07: 59
            Quote: g1v2
            he acts as he considers it more useful for the country, and not because some column is forcing him. If necessary, enters troops, if not, suffers provocations.

            This, my friend, smacks of propaganda. Namely: either black or white; either a country in the heat of war, or a head in the sand. How about the "gray" - to establish the provision of militias with everything they need, including weapons, equipment and ammunition? Pindos from across the ocean arranged for us a "second Vietnam", simply and without advertising, supplying the perfume with "Stingers". Or is this, too, a challenge out of your strength? Moreover, hundreds of thousands of refugees somehow crossed the border in one direction, almost unhindered and without any special operations. Nobody personally blames Putin, because, although he is the Supreme, he is not an autocrat and cannot decide such matters on his own. Oh yes, sanctions, of course ...

            I don’t give a damn how it will look in the process, the result will be evaluated.

            You tell the father of that baby whom you buried just now. About how to give a damn what that little coffin among the flowers looked like "in the process" of the funeral. Or is this, sorry, not the result? Then God forbid anyone to wait for the real "result"!

            we are in any way positive

            If not a secret, then what is this "plus"? Is it that while our hut is on the edge, and we can courageously savor beer while the front-line reports cannonade? Well, that's just for now ...

            PS: Nothing personal. Sincerely.
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    3. White5
      0
      5 July 2014 08: 24
      What the hell is Ukraine condemning Russia for not helping Novorossia? Are there many more such fornication words?
      1. SAVA555.IVANOV
        +8
        5 July 2014 08: 39
        Oh, you are a fornication !! Novorossia is punished for believing in the Slavic world because we are brothers like you, didn’t stand on a par with Bandera like all 23 years of independence did not try to put us. But remember, it’s easier and more profitable for us to join the forces that wait for Russia to join Russia tear to pieces. BUT WE DO NOT WANT THIS.
  5. Bashkaus
    +6
    5 July 2014 06: 00
    A military parade was held in Minsk:
    Representatives of the Russian Armed Forces were part of the foot crews along with Belarusian servicemen, border guards, employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, members of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. This is the ceremonial calculation of the 234th Guards Black Sea Order of Kutuzov, 3rd class, of the Alexander Nevsky Airborne Assault Regiment of the 76th Guards Airborne Assault Regiment of the Chernigov Red Banner Division from Pskov. The 76th Guards Airborne Assault Division, formed in 1939, is one of the oldest formations of the Airborne Forces of the Russian Armed Forces. In a mechanized column was presented and modern equipment and weapons of the Russian Armed Forces. On July 3, Minsk residents and guests of the capital saw self-propelled launchers from the Iskander operational-tactical missile system and the S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system, and Tiger armored multipurpose vehicles.
    I do not know what Putin has in mind, but the parade in honor of the liberation of Minsk is an excellent legend for the covert transfer of troops to the "western front". If the paratroopers decide to lay wreaths at the memorial in Brest and Pinsk, then from there Lutsk and Rivne can be seen from binoculars, and good motivation and orders from Vova, and Lviv is just a stone's throw away.
    1. +1
      5 July 2014 09: 31
      Your words yes Vova in ears ...
      1. leon7591
        0
        5 July 2014 10: 46
        That's right, Rock2! God would give that it would be so, I really want to believe! Unless this is just another useless "demonstration" of strength, or rather powerlessness! Our next saber rattling! ... it doesn't scare anyone anymore! Dill just mock us! It is a pity only for the guys who are senselessly dying in Slavyansk and all over New Russia! Eternal Glory to them!
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  6. waisson
    +9
    5 July 2014 06: 08
    ---------------- soldier
  7. waisson
    +5
    5 July 2014 06: 17
    am all this hype around the DPR from the side of our President turned out to be a political fars and he merges the Donbass like in his time Serbia leaked his predecessor no words from him ........ he passed it Political Whore angry
    1. waisson
      -1
      5 July 2014 06: 44
      ------------------------- am angry
      1. waisson
        -11
        5 July 2014 06: 45
        ----------------- am angry
    2. Chatlanin
      -4
      5 July 2014 08: 30
      negative it's bad to be like this!
  8. +14
    5 July 2014 06: 21
    A lump in the throat from impotence can help with something. I feel sorry for the best people who are dying for Russia too, because Novorossia will be crushed, followed by Crimea and beyond. No words, some mats.
    1. 0
      5 July 2014 08: 04
      ............... ....
    2. pritorius
      -1
      5 July 2014 10: 13
      Sorry for the best people who die for Russia.
      It is a pity that there are so few of them.
  9. airborne forces
    +2
    5 July 2014 06: 26
    GDP still congratulates parasha with victory
    1. +11
      5 July 2014 07: 19
      Quote: Airborne
      GDP still congratulates parasha with victory

      I have a hunch that Lukashenko will definitely do it
      1. +10
        5 July 2014 07: 48
        Quote: saag
        I have a hunch that Lukashenko will definitely do it

        Lukashenko was in Kiev after the election, congratulated Poroshenko. After that, he fell below the plinth in my eyes! negative
  10. +5
    5 July 2014 06: 27
    When it all started, Fashington said to Kiev, do what you want Putin will not dare to send troops and we will write off 10 thousand deaths .. sad
    1. pritorius
      +1
      5 July 2014 10: 21
      When it all started, Fashington said to Kiev, do what you want Putin will not dare to send troops and we will write off 10 thousand deaths ..

      You certainly would not be among those 10 thousand
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    1. waisson
      +9
      5 July 2014 06: 37
      not only they are fagots but also our KNOWLEDGE ------ otherwise WE DO NOT leave our RUSSIA am angry
      1. waisson
        0
        5 July 2014 06: 44
        ---------------- am angry
        1. waisson
          +47
          5 July 2014 06: 46
          ---------------- soldier
          1. 0
            5 July 2014 22: 02
            You are cowards, everyone who pours mud at the president. He did not forbid anyone to go to war to Ukraine, he created all the conditions. And you? You want war at the expense of nineteen-year-old boys.
            Do not want to fight yourself do not look for the extreme! Be a man, admit your weakness and do not boast.
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      2. +5
        5 July 2014 07: 20
        Quote: waisson
        otherwise WE DO NOT leave our RUSSIA

        If you have a billion dollars, then they definitely won’t quit
  12. comrad74
    +9
    5 July 2014 06: 37
    For the past two years, I have been an ardent supporter of the guarantor of the constitution. Acquaintances said, You are mdaq. And I believed. Then there was Crimea. The acquaintances said "and you were right." Today I am ashamed.
  13. +22
    5 July 2014 06: 42
    Honestly, I was against the entry of troops into Ukraine, but now my opinion has changed. Russia through its inaction shows frank weakness. And in any case there will be a war, it is already underway ...
  14. komrad.klim
    0
    5 July 2014 06: 45
    Quote: waisson
    am all this hype around the DPR from the side of our President turned out to be a political fars and he merges the Donbass like in his time Serbia leaked his predecessor no words from him ........ he passed it Political Whore angry

    according to your avatar you can see a super warrior (do you play shooting games?)
    1. waisson
      +2
      5 July 2014 06: 52
      participated in shooting games but you seem to play them
      1. nvv
        nvv
        +6
        5 July 2014 07: 19
        Quote: waisson
        participated in shooting games but you seem to play them
        That I fought, I believe. And I wouldn’t go into reconnaissance. A partner cannot be reliable if he praised his Commander-in-Chief yesterday, and today, when it’s really difficult for him, he is vilifying.
        1. +7
          5 July 2014 07: 42
          And here you are wrong. A person believes that he was betrayed, there is an argument for this position. Therefore, your words about insecurity are verbiage.

          Regarding GDP, the question is what and how the Commander-in-Chief will do:
          1) We will only know the fact.
          2) Whether he did the right thing, we will find out, but only after the passage of time.
          3) Accordingly, you must be prepared for everything ...
          1. pritorius
            +1
            5 July 2014 10: 19
            Accordingly, you must be prepared for everything ..
            Are you not interested in doing a survey of how many people here are ready ?.
        2. +1
          5 July 2014 07: 42
          And here you are wrong. A person believes that he was betrayed, there is an argument for this position. Therefore, your words about insecurity are verbiage.

          Regarding GDP, the question is what and how the Commander-in-Chief will do:
          1) We will only know the fact.
          2) Whether he did the right thing, we will find out, but only after the passage of time.
          3) Accordingly, you must be prepared for everything ...
          1. nvv
            nvv
            +2
            5 July 2014 08: 10
            Read his komenty. Yesterday Putin is good, today Putin is bad. In Russian, if for money, this is a prostitute, but for fun, look. The minus is not mine.
            1. waisson
              +1
              5 July 2014 19: 57
              Yesterday he rose in my eyes and today he managed it and it’s not possible to wash it off
        3. European
          +1
          5 July 2014 08: 40
          only durak does not change his mind. Confucius.
          1. nvv
            nvv
            +5
            5 July 2014 09: 52
            Listen, European, Confucius lived in a different time. In a different place. With different values. Since the time when our paths crossed, do you remember the discussion of the star? So, sometimes I look into your personal file. And what do I see? But I see a cocky but blind kitten. I give you my handbook. She will open many eyes to you.
            1. pritorius
              0
              5 July 2014 10: 23
              A book!? Are you sure that he knows what it is?)
              1. European
                -2
                5 July 2014 10: 29
                unlike you, I have 2 higher educations, which I received back in the USSR! I have a daughter and a son who read books more than you! so don’t show your wit here without knowing the person.
                1. nvv
                  nvv
                  +1
                  5 July 2014 10: 39
                  Quote: European
                  unlike you, I have 2 higher educations, which I received back in the USSR! I have a daughter and a son who read books more than you! so don’t show your wit here without knowing the person.

                  Well, the roosters mated. Brekkk!
                  1. European
                    -1
                    5 July 2014 10: 42
                    I was not going to swear here. Moreover, I respect myself to start an insulting conversation.
                2. +1
                  5 July 2014 10: 47
                  don't have a daughter and son, it's incest.
                  children need to be raised and educated
                  1. European
                    0
                    5 July 2014 10: 51
                    your dumbness just rolls over! did you even understand what you wrote? a head on his shoulders or a second well ... ah!
            2. +1
              5 July 2014 10: 30
              nvv be careful these materials are recognized as extremist. For the distribution of criminal liability. But in general, Petrov is right ...
              1. nvv
                nvv
                0
                5 July 2014 10: 51
                Quote: Rock2
                nvv be careful these materials are recognized as extremist. For the distribution of criminal liability. But in general, Petrov is right ...

                Afraid of wolves, do not go to the forest. And Petrov is not only right, he got to the bottom. And if you look from his position, then everything that happens in the world becomes clear.
                1. +2
                  5 July 2014 11: 05
                  As far as I know, Petrov did not get to the bottom of it, and a group of scientists back in Soviet times developed a concept for the leadership in order to transfer the country to a new footing, but as we can see, they did not have time. Petrov only picked it up and continued to develop it, but the forces were not equal ... And so you are right with this knowledge the world is becoming clearer and somehow easier to live ...
                  1. nvv
                    nvv
                    0
                    5 July 2014 11: 38
                    Quote: Rock2
                    As far as I know, Petrov did not get to the bottom of it, and a group of scientists back in Soviet times developed a concept for the leadership in order to transfer the country to a new footing, but as we can see, they did not have time. Petrov only picked it up and continued to develop it, but the forces were not equal ... And so you are right with this knowledge the world is becoming clearer and somehow easier to live ...

                    Yes, in his lectures, he mentioned that at the beginning the officers were the core, then the others joined them. But he brought this information to me.
            3. European
              +1
              5 July 2014 10: 32
              Thanks for the gift, but I don’t need your present! that swinging who lived in another place and another historical time, I can bet the words of great thinkers and philosophers are still relevant! you only need to understand them correctly. Nevertheless, I put you +.
              1. nvv
                nvv
                +4
                5 July 2014 11: 14
                Offended by the fact that I called you an unreasonable kutenok? So it’s paternal. And as for the plus, I’ll tell you something. I’m not here to improve my game level. I want to convey to people what I myself know and understand and replenish my knowledge. Are philosophical thoughts relevant? Ok god take off with the philosophers. You have 2 higher educations and you know who Mendeleev is. And why does he have no ether in the table? This is your homework.
                1. iung
                  +1
                  5 July 2014 12: 01
                  well, if you drip even deeper, then the modern table itself has no relation to Mendeleev at all.
                  1. nvv
                    nvv
                    0
                    5 July 2014 13: 09
                    Everything can be. Learning and work, everything will be ground, and to be honest, the more I learn, the more I feel like a fool.
        4. waisson
          0
          5 July 2014 19: 51
          why blaspheme it he managed in the eyes of the Russian population of Ukraine
          1. nvv
            nvv
            +1
            6 July 2014 02: 40
            Let's talk without offense to the aforementioned. Everything is not as clear as the famous Crimean woman said. Who is Putin? If you think that we chose him, then you are deeply mistaken. Putin, from my position, is a henchman of a certain force that controls the world. Watch the video. Then go to the "Consequences of the artillery attack in the LPR. Reaction of the people's militia." There I put up, so to speak, a test comment to understand the reaction of the members of the forum. As expected, I’m standing there hung with minuses. But there are pluses, it became easier in my soul, it means that I’m not alone here. You can leave your autograph there.
  15. waisson
    +7
    5 July 2014 06: 48
    -------------------- hi
  16. -4
    5 July 2014 06: 57
    At that price, we don’t need Crimea!
  17. -5
    5 July 2014 06: 57
    At that price, we don’t need Crimea!
  18. +13
    5 July 2014 07: 00
    Today, in a BBC episode, a completely different song suddenly flowed for no reason. Their correspondent (our compatriot, judging by the name and accent) suddenly showed the whole nightmare created by the junta. Even in an interview with a Nazi soldier he brought that to hysteria. I see this for the first time. It is possible that the West is not so laughing as it seems to many. That is, where necessary, he probably laughs and rubs his hands. But today's show speaks of a turn of opinion.
    1. +1
      5 July 2014 07: 46
      Can you see the archives of this record somewhere?
      This event is quite significant, because I would like to know for sure what happened.
      1. 0
        6 July 2014 06: 54
        Unfortunately, I can’t help, because I watched the program live. It was the BBC that broadcasts in the USA.
    2. 0
      5 July 2014 07: 46
      Can you see the archives of this record somewhere?
      This event is quite significant, because I would like to know for sure what happened.
    3. 0
      5 July 2014 10: 34
      No wonder. Probably some in Europe are already beginning to scare what they themselves have done.
  19. +9
    5 July 2014 07: 11
    People are very sorry.
    As a communications specialist, I found one strange mess in the news flow -
    It became clear how Ukrainian warriors jammed the connection under Slavic. A mine is thrown, from which thin wires diverge, which clings to the communications wires with a grid. This grid blocks the connection, and it is very strong - you just can’t remove it.

    Who has served and works in communication knows that this is from the region - I don’t know what. So you can jam the communication cable unless stretched on poles in the private sector of one-story houses of the old buildings, but not cheaper and easier to interrupt the wires? That is, this is some kind of utter Martian stupidity.
    Strelkov probably has a "Thuraya" (civil satellite phone), you can't drown it with stupid nets. And surely there is something better. Further, underground communications are arguing with reliability with all this. These are usually fiber-optic cables - they do not lend themselves to electromagnetic interference. Slavyansk is a big city, there are enough communications if Strelkov has specialists, even in the face of opposition from the special services, he will be able to stay in touch, albeit with certain difficulties.
    Maybe in this message someone was trying to report on electro-pulse munitions, but again they are arranged differently.
    1. +4
      5 July 2014 07: 26
      Totally agree with you.
      Ignorant people and not come up with this (about a mine with a mustache) laughing

      Radio engineer, studied at MVTU (86-92)
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    3. +2
      5 July 2014 07: 27
      Quote: vrach
      Maybe in this message someone was trying to report on electro-pulse munitions, but again they are arranged differently.

      In Yugoslavia, so short circuits were arranged on power lines, is it something incomprehensible that there are overhead non-isolated communication lines in Slavyansk? In general, you can’t drown out the wire connection with a screen, except by shorting it, again, FOCL, if it is, it really is up to one place
      Quote: vrach
      Strelkov probably has "Thuraya"

      There was, but they were blocked for a long time, because the Iridium servers are in America, Strelkov somehow wrote that they stopped working for him
      1. +5
        5 July 2014 10: 04
        Since we are talking about communication, I want to add a construct.
        The first question is the communication scheme. It so happened from the Soviet era that every serious department had its own highways providing multiple duplication, we begin to list:
        1. Railway - Slavyansk major railway junction.
        2. The power station near Slavyansk is a large state district power station (state district power station, an old abbreviation emphasizing the importance of the facility). A guy from there worked in my team.
        3. Actually telecom, different OTDs there are our civilian communication lines.
        4. Finally, various types of special communications.
        5. The same cellular companies have recently been actively developing their FOCL backbones, but at least Beeline.

        that is, at the same Nikolaevka a minimum of 5 trunk cables should have gone. The depth of the underground cable 70 cm, mortar mine 81 mm will not take.
        Once, when I was young, I got into trouble in the desert, a car broke down, to the nearest settlement 80 km. There is no radio connection, but we are signalmen, a more experienced comrade didn’t even feel sad, we dug up the copper trunk communication cable, although it was possible to get to the 5 NUP of kilometers, opened it, connected, called to work, called for help.
        Strelkov would have gone to difficult directions in a pair of experienced signalmen who knew local conditions with a not so big set of equipment.

        And one more case, we are now hooked on imports, and utilities, the same heating networks and water management, probably still use Len radio stations, of course this is an open communication channel. Once I witnessed a very unusual phenomenon Omsk (Siberia) utilities heard their Ukrainian colleagues. I honestly don't know how it happened.

        By the way hello MVTU.

        And it is also important that when you crash into a fiber optic link, you still need to have special software so that the operator does not see you at the monitoring station. However, when you use your piece it does not matter.
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  20. +2
    5 July 2014 07: 17
    HZ of course, but Putin has not yet said his last word. The people will not forgive the complete inaction, and he understands this.
    I want to believe that a cunning mnogoghodovka is conceived, the result of which is victory, the necessary condition is time, but the price for this is the life of our compatriots ...
    1. +4
      5 July 2014 07: 29
      I fully agree with Floock, the alarmists are shouting that "Putin has leaked everyone."
      During the war, such people were shot on the spot.
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    3. +6
      5 July 2014 07: 34
      Quote: Floock
      a cunning mnogohodovka is conceived, the result of which is a victory, but the price of which is people's lives ...

      Too long "multi-way". People are dying. Novorossia is being wiped off the face of the earth. Poroshenko put an end to her. Otherwise, at least women, children and old people were taken out. Hospitals would be evacuated. And so the junta is already shelling the squares. Where the projectiles fall, the punishers are of little concern.
      In short, if Putin decided to play, then he is in time trouble.
    4. pritorius
      0
      5 July 2014 10: 26
      the lives of our compatriots ...
      Protected in Russia.
      1. ozs
        ozs
        0
        5 July 2014 13: 26
        This is you tell the Rostov border.
  21. -8
    5 July 2014 07: 28
    I have long ceased to be proud of my country and now I am ashamed that I am a Russian, really a Russian bear will kneel and what kind of bear after that
    1. +5
      5 July 2014 09: 54
      Well, you are a woodpecker, since you are ashamed that you are Russian. or you are originally not Russian !!!
      1. +1
        5 July 2014 11: 20
        "Well, you are a woodpecker, since you are ashamed that you are Russian. Or you are not originally Russian !!!"
        You shouldn't be so on basy66. I’m not Russian, but I understand him perfectly. Remember how Suvorov said: "We are Russians! What a delight!" To wear this proud name "Russian" is a cross! and it obliges a lot.
        Again, the Serbian proverb "In heaven, GOD, on earth - Russia (count Russians)." "Russian" is the only designation of nationality in the form of an adjective, the rest of all nationalities are designated by nouns. Think about why? Probably because it characterizes the internal content, which is different from others.
        Therefore, the person who in this situation says that he is ashamed that he is Russian, I think, speaks of impotence to do something, because the Russian elites, taken together and not worth the tear of the real Russian - Igor Strelkov (whose tears we see in his treatment) do nothing to save the Russian people in eastern Ukraine. Something like this. Sincerely.
  22. Ohrenator
    +5
    5 July 2014 07: 36
    From the beginning, having taken away Crimea, 80% of the population of Ukraine sowed hatred of Russia from 20, and then betraying Donbass, you will hate the remaining 45%. As a result, we get at the borders of XNUMX a millionth hostile state with a population that hates you. Bravo Kremlin diplomacy!
    1. +4
      5 July 2014 07: 44
      Quote: Ohrenator
      From the beginning, having taken away Crimea, 80% of the population of Ukraine sowed hatred of Russia from 20, and then betraying Donbass, you will hate the remaining 45%. As a result, we get at the borders of XNUMX a millionth hostile state with a population that hates you. Bravo Kremlin diplomacy!

      Golden words! Yes
    2. +1
      5 July 2014 07: 47
      100 percent ...
    3. Tyumen
      +16
      5 July 2014 08: 10
      Be honest, they hated Russia even before the Crimea. Three years ago, one representative of an independent here in the VO said bluntly: * Drop Soviet thinking, everything has been different for a long time, no one here considers you to be brothers and kindred people either. * So do not blame the Kremlin, but your Bandera leadership in any guise, Ukrainian-phobic propaganda, the destruction of education, and as a result, millions of Svidomo beasts with virgin brains, in which, apart from slogans, there is only hatred of Russians. I read ukrokommenty, so I have not yet met such a clean, frank animal hatred for us. The worst thing is that the most cruel comments are left by your women. Ukraine is no longer for me.
      Sorry, burst.
    4. pritorius
      +2
      5 July 2014 10: 34
      From the beginning, they took away (they always returned what always belonged to Russia) Crimea, sowed hatred towards Russia among 80% of the inhabitants of Ukraine (USA), and then betrayed (betrayed by Ukraine itself) Donbass - you (they) would be hated by the remaining 20%. As a result, we get at the borders of the 45 millionth hostile state with a population that hates you. Bravo Kremlin diplomacy!


      And before that, our borders had fewer hostile states?
    5. Leprechaun
      +2
      5 July 2014 11: 47
      Quote: Ohrenator
      From the beginning, having taken away Crimea, 80% of the population of Ukraine sowed hatred of Russia from 20, and then betraying Donbass, you will hate the remaining 45%. As a result, we get at the borders of XNUMX a millionth hostile state with a population that hates you. Bravo Kremlin diplomacy!

      That is, on the Maidan, you jumped and yelled "her knives" just like that without hatred, and like after the Crimea you were offended and already seriously at the knives. And Crimeans wanted to kill and evict from the Crimea after the Maidan without hatred? Hypocrisy is mixed with demagoguery like all your Bandera propaganda.
  23. RSU
    +1
    5 July 2014 07: 39
    Strelkov’s militias will not be able to keep the city, it is necessary to leave it and beat the Nazis in the forests, in the fields and on the march with partisan methods of struggle. Need to break through.
    1. +1
      5 July 2014 10: 00
      If there is no support, you probably need to break through in order to save strength. It may be with the combined forces to equip a new fortification somewhere near Lugansk or Donetsk. In the end, leave for Russia (if they allow). Try to create a new, already liberating refugee army. I think Russia will help with weapons. In any case, Strelkov and his commanders must live and continue the fight against fascism. Of course he knows better what to do. I will support any of his decisions (at least morally).
    2. Leprechaun
      +1
      5 July 2014 11: 54
      Quote: RSU
      Strelkov’s militias will not be able to keep the city, it is necessary to leave it and beat the Nazis in the forests, in the fields and on the march with partisan methods of struggle. Need to break through.

      How tired of these sofa strategists with their children's advice, who saw the army only at the May 9 parade. And for your advice to you "20PSAK"
  24. +3
    5 July 2014 07: 41
    Quote: RSU
    you need to leave him and beat the Nazis in the forests, in the fields

    there are no forests there, forest planting alone, not really partisan
    1. Leprechaun
      +1
      5 July 2014 12: 00
      saag don't you see that - he RSU another provocateur. Yesterday they were widely circulated with tips to break through and leave Slavyansk, and they all copied past news (fake) to Strelkov that it was time to leave Slavyansk. And the newsletter came from an amersky site.
  25. +1
    5 July 2014 07: 48
    In politics, when the lives of people, your citizens, your voters depend on your actions, you need to rely only on a cold calculation. What will Russia extract if now Strelkova gets involved in the war because of militias? What will its citizens receive? Ask this question to yourself, cheers patriots. In my humble opinion:
    1. Inevitably, isolation of Russia will occur with its expulsion from all international organizations, including the UN as an aggressor. The USSR went for it in 1940 in the Finnish campaign, being clearly stronger, but for this there was a strategic goal - to push the borders from Leningrad. Putin also formally violated international law by joining the Crimean Peninsula (like NATO, however, in Kosovo), when it was necessary for Russia's strategic security.
    2. All significant projects of the Russian Federation in Europe, including South Stream, will be frozen. And this is the money of the country, this is a considerable part of the budget. The money paid by pensions and salaries to military personnel. The country will suffer huge economic losses.
    3. Sanctions. Yes, personal sanctions will not cause much damage to the Russian Federation. And if sectoral? In the event of our invasion of Ukraine, Europe will have nowhere to go, it will obediently carry out all the orders of Washington. Remember oil for food? In our country, if I am not mistaken, 40% of the budget is formed from the oil and gas sector. And when will we still reorient ourselves to the East, when will we build all these gas and oil pipelines?
    4. If the Ukrainian military does not hesitate to bomb its own civilian population, then they think they will be supportive of our military? Retreat before them? The Ukrainian army is only slightly worse armed than the Russian army. Like us, they have mainly armaments of 70-80 years. And the fighting spirit they will definitely appear during our invasion. And how Russians fight, we all know. So there will be thousands, tens of thousands of coffins to our Russian mothers. Do you have grown sons? Do you want them to die for Strelkov?
    Of course, very sorry for Igor Ivanovich and his soldiers. And even more civilians, children and women of the Donbass and the Luhansk region. But all that Russia can officially do is host and host refugees in their territory and fight for a ceasefire through diplomatic means, while simultaneously crushing the junta economically. What Russia is doing.
    1. DPZ
      +5
      5 July 2014 08: 31
      because of Strelkov’s militias ??
      those. all the fuss over a handful of people ?! yes to go nuts! what do you have with your head we are talking about millions of people in Ukraine, about our people!
      1. +3
        5 July 2014 08: 50
        Exactly, because of Strelkov’s militias. Because the rest of the Donbass men sit in basements and mine coal in mines. To fight for them? And Russia will host women and children and take thousands every day. By the way, there are no fewer healthy men among refugees.
        1. +1
          5 July 2014 09: 46
          why are you minus the minusers? Or object to nothing? You are miserable.
    2. White5
      +3
      5 July 2014 08: 51
      Sorry, but I put a minus, I just do not like "cutlets with flies", or rather, when the lack of assistance is justified, which entailed numerous sacrifices by economic interests, even on a national scale. If you do not know the true reasons for the lack of explicit military support, you better shut up. I am sure that, with the support of the population of Russia, the troops have long been in Novorossiya, But I don’t see crowded demonstrations and pickets in support of military intervention. By the way, whoever wants military intervention here, too, please - either a free tour to Novorossiya, or with a poster to the Administration.
      1. +2
        5 July 2014 09: 32
        How do you want? At the very beginning I wrote "in politics, when the lives of people, your citizens, your voters depend on your actions, you must rely only on cold calculation." Do you disagree? Russia, what is the international level of the Ministry of Emergencies? South Ossetia - our peacekeepers were standing there, they were killed. CRIMEA - there is our base of the Black Sea Fleet, which has nowhere else to place and with its loss we would have lost the Black Sea. What's in Donbass? Name at least one sane reason for the water of the troops, so that our "partners" (and we depend on them by 40%) would not eat us for it?
        1. +1
          5 July 2014 10: 46
          Quote: Rimlianin
          How do you want? At the very beginning I wrote "in politics, when the lives of people, your citizens, your voters depend on your actions, you must rely only on cold calculation." Do you disagree? Russia, what is the international level of the Ministry of Emergencies? South Ossetia - our peacekeepers were standing there, they were killed. CRIMEA - there is our base of the Black Sea Fleet, which has nowhere else to place and with its loss we would have lost the Black Sea. What's in Donbass? Name at least one sane reason for the water of the troops, so that our "partners" (and we depend on them by 40%) would not eat us for it?

          Nobody is interested in an objective analysis of the situation here. People after the Crimea have formed an elementary logic on their heads: We can do everything. But desires do not always coincide with opportunities. And as for the minuses, you should have shouted “Give me Kiev!” Here. You would get a hundred. , as well as the forum has long turned into a club of hurray-patriots and gorlopanov. And there are fewer and fewer pros every day.
    3. blackberry
      +10
      5 July 2014 09: 15
      People do not listen to a miserable coward and a villain under the nickname Roman. There will be nothing fatal in those sanctions. Although I can’t believe that a man can think about his own skin when they kill a child, even a stranger, and even let an enemy child. But - to sanctions. You are lying in general phrases, almost without numbers, but sometimes pierced. For example, this person speaks of 40% of the budget. As you know, Gazprom’s export earnings have never been above 17% in all Russian revenues. I give specific figures:
      in 2003 amounted to 16,5 billion dollars. All Russian exports - $ 134,4 billion. Total, the share of natural gas in Russian exports in 2003 amounted to 12,3%.
      In 2004: no data.
      In 2005: foreign exchange earnings of $ 34,4 billion, the entire export volume of $ 245 billion, the share of natural gas in exports - 14,04%.
      In 2006: Gazprom's foreign exchange earnings of $ 49,2 billion, Russian exports - $ 317.6 billion. Gas share - 15,5%.
      In 2007: Gazprom’s foreign exchange earnings of $ 59,2 billion. This is 16,8% of Russia's total exports ($ 352,5 billion).
      In 2008: foreign exchange earnings from natural gas exports of $ 81,6 billion. This is 17,4% of Russian exports ($ 468,1 billion).
      In 2009: Gazprom’s foreign exchange earnings of $ 52,6 billion, the share of natural gas in Russian exports 17,4% (all Russian exports - $ 301,6 billion).
      In 2010: Gazprom’s foreign exchange earnings of $ 59,5 billion (14,9% of $ 400,4 billion).
      In 2011: foreign exchange earnings from Russian gas exports of 78,2 billion dollars, the share of natural gas in Russian exports of 15% (total export of 522 billion dollars).
      At the same time, Gazprom sells another third in the country - you will receive this kind of revenue in any way.
      Oil exports are about half the size of gas.
      Now - why do you lose it at all? Hungary, Austria, Bulgaria, Italy - these are the ones who have already scored on gas sanctions. And this is under furious pressure. And then they will only join, you understand.
      Do not believe the liberals. They sold the Union, creatures, and they are selling Russia right now. For the legs of the child including.
      1. +3
        5 July 2014 09: 45
        I’m not a miserable coward. I served in the army for two years and I’ll go to fight for my homeland if they call me again. I just tried to put myself in the place of the country's leader, and your arguments about betrayal are all on emotions. Also on emotions in 1914, we helped the Serbs and got involved in the First World War, which as a result led to the death of the country. Do not forget that the modern Russian Federation is a capital country, built into the Western financial system. And complete international isolation will destroy her. Plus, casualties among the army, and coupled with deprivations of a socio-economic nature, this will lead to rebellion, the seizure of power is not clear to anyone. Think, think, and not insult other people for their position.
        1. pritorius
          0
          5 July 2014 10: 42
          And complete international (not possible in fact) isolation will ruin it.
        2. +2
          5 July 2014 10: 52
          A country in which in abundance of its resources cannot perish. We need a strong political will of the country's leadership and competent managers, but it is always possible to rebuild the economy. Remember the USSR during the war under the leadership of Stalin I.V. Yes, it was hard, but they did, they won ...
          And the Serbs still love and respect us. And support if necessary ...
      2. 0
        5 July 2014 10: 50
        Blackberry, what about oil and other minerals that are also sold abroad? And why blame a person for a liberal if he has just given an analysis of the situation? Does he have no right to think differently?
        Well, yes, of course, your business is female. You won’t go to fight 100 pounds. But isn’t it worth it to call others to go to the hell of a difficult grandfather? Are you ready to send your children to the hell? am
  26. NUR
    +6
    5 July 2014 07: 51
    Military shooters at cities and civilians are criminals.
  27. +7
    5 July 2014 07: 52
    Lugansk and Donetsk were sold to arikos for the development of shale gas, there should be a desert with drill rigs on which zapadentsy shift workers will work, nothing else should be there.
    Only gas production, no infrastructure, no population, nothing that could entail additional costs, ONLY SUCK AND SELL GAS.
  28. +5
    5 July 2014 07: 53
    Quote: Rimlianin
    Do you have grown sons? Do you want them to die for Strelkov?

    In this case, there will be Crimea and get ready to post the same questions, in a slightly different edition
    1. +1
      5 July 2014 10: 04
      Crimea will no longer be; it is ALREADY part of Russia, so dust will be swallowed.
      1. 0
        5 July 2014 11: 22
        Is not a fact. For the West and Ukraine, Crimea is not recognized as part of Russia. So anything is still possible. For them, it will be a war of liberation. And for this, the Western media will raise such a howl (as with South Ossetia) and the opinions will form that "Mama do not cry" ... Everything depends on the political will of our leadership. But the information war must be waged now and won. How? They know, but something is still weak. At this rate, we will lose ...
  29. +6
    5 July 2014 07: 55
    Quote: Ohrenator
    From the beginning, having taken away Crimea, 80% of the population of Ukraine sowed hatred of Russia from 20, and then betraying Donbass, you will hate the remaining 45%. As a result, we get at the borders of XNUMX a millionth hostile state with a population that hates you. Bravo Kremlin diplomacy!

    What an impudent monkey sneaked into the forum! Again, Russia was to blame for everything, which had eaten dill in the Union, poisoned the vigilance of ukrov with free gas, and, blatantly disliking the Maidans, withdrew the aircraft carrier Crimea from under NATO's nose. You would go along with your hatred, Ohrenator, to create a new trololo account, because they will take over this, as I tell you Ukrainian. I have seen enough of you, Western creatures, in the 1980's, when no one knew Putin yet, except for your wife and mother.
  30. Boralex63
    +1
    5 July 2014 07: 56
    The current situation reminds me of an anecdote where, in the role of "Tuzik", all of our people - A man comes from hunting all justified at the most.
    Wife:
    - What happened?
    Man:
    - Yes, you know, I went with Tuzik to a bear, found a lair, a bear - there. Well, I took the tuzik to the gatehouse, closed it, returned to the lair, crouching there with a club, sat down and wait ... Then I have a paw on my shoulder, I turn around, I see the Tuzik, but I couldn’t stop ...
  31. 0
    5 July 2014 07: 59
    Quote: saag
    In this case, there will be Crimea and get ready to post the same questions, in a slightly different edition


    Do you think Ukraine will decide to attack the Crimea? Do you think they are suicides? They are not and *** you, to give a legitimate reason to destroy yourself and lose power. Well then, Russia will have its hands untied and they are not quite of what would give a reason for this. Read the Ukrainian media, the same Censor, it is not very flattering to respond to the promises of the new Minister of Defense to hold a parade in Sevastopol, calling them impracticable.

    Here is a quote about this from the column of the editor-in-chief of the Censor:

    “Yesterday's promise of Vasily Viktorovich to hold a victory parade in Sevastopol fits into this clownish line in a strange way. Crimea - do it, do not promise what you will not be able to fulfill in the foreseeable future ... "Source: http://censor.net.ua/r292560 Source: http://censor.net.ua/r292560
    1. +1
      5 July 2014 08: 17
      Quote: Rimlianin
      Do you think Ukraine will decide to attack the Crimea?

      direct aggression is unlikely, although now you can’t vouch for anything - they shoot out at Russian territory and they don’t have anything for it, but there will be some kind of bargaining, and the result may be very different
      1. +1
        5 July 2014 08: 39
        What are you wondering? How do you know if there will be aggression, and if so, what? Do you have subordination to the SVR, the FSB? Do you have agents at the headquarters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces? Read the military doctrine of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, for what they can be applied and do not fool your head and yourself.
        1. +1
          5 July 2014 08: 43
          Quote: Rimlianin
          Read the military doctrine of the RF Armed Forces

          all this can be sent to one place, because the country is controlled manually, and not quite by the president, but without his order, any doctrine will be just a character set encoded in Win1251 on Finnish offset paper
    2. 0
      5 July 2014 11: 32
      Good question, but what about the Ukrainian army after the capture of New Russia, which has already smelled blood (although I hope this does not happen)?
  32. +4
    5 July 2014 08: 01
    I’m sure that the real rating of our guarantee is lower than the rating of a banana-and it’s completely correct. Didn’t you say you don’t give up yours — to quit them cowardly. Or are you just sitting in the Kremlin?
    1. pritorius
      -2
      5 July 2014 10: 47
      Its those who are in Russia.
    2. +1
      5 July 2014 12: 21
      Quote: sv68
      what's the real rating of our warranty

      So maybe you can get a poll on this site on this topic? According to the results and see.
  33. wanderer
    +1
    5 July 2014 08: 08
    [b] in Strelka’s voice some kind of doom is felt ... and if you take into account that he doesn’t say everything on the camera, he’s hiding the worst ... it becomes generally terrible for the people of the southeast ... yes. [/ b]
    1. Piterkras
      +2
      5 July 2014 08: 23
      The people of the Southeast do not give a damn about everything that happens. Except a separate handful of people.
  34. +2
    5 July 2014 08: 08
    No words, only expressions on the soul. Writing is useless, the moderator will cut it out. A man and a grandmother said in an interview with LifeNews.
  35. +3
    5 July 2014 08: 09
    How long will the bloody lawlessness last, who will stop the nonhumans?
    1. Piterkras
      +2
      5 July 2014 08: 22
      And you do not want to go to Donbass and personally participate in stopping this lawlessness? No? Why is it so? Employment increased or what?
      1. 0
        7 July 2014 19: 54
        If you guarantee that my participation will stop the fratricidal massacre, I will go and take part. But alas, my participation, or not participation, will not stop lawlessness. The military starts a war, and politicians end
  36. Piterkras
    -5
    5 July 2014 08: 14
    It’s funny to read all the local Pascivili. You can’t even stupidly organize a rally of thousands in support of New Russia in the same Moscow! You have business, you know. Russians in Russia do not give a damn about the Russian inhabitants of Novorossia. To inhabitants of Lugansk and Donetsk on the future and an arbitrariness of anti-terrorist operation in their places - to give a damn. Tryndet is all great, but I’m sure that if they announce mobilization in Russia for the purpose of recruiting troops to defend Novorosia, then you will find someone with hell later. Compare the behavior of residents of Chechnya in the 1st Chechen and residents of Lugansk with Donetsk. Essentially the same thing. And the Chechens did not have aviation or heavy equipment in fact. But they fought for their land and their home, and did not sit at home. Admittedly, the Russians are cowards. Even in Crimea, if it were not for the polite people, the Crimean Tatars would disperse and disperse all pro-Russian people. How many then residents of Sevastopol attended rallies in support of the referendum? Is there a lot of people? No. Why? And business, you understand. Are the inhabitants of the neighboring Rostov region ready to die for the inhabitants of Donetsk and Lugansk? Of course not. They do not care. As it did not care about the Russian people from Chechnya at the time. You have to pay for cowardice. And the inhabitants of Donetsk will pay for it. And not only with your money.
  37. +1
    5 July 2014 08: 22
    It seems to me that it was precisely yesterday that Putin’s confidence and rating began to decline, because without a shudder it’s impossible to look at what Ukrainian people started to do! Apparently, the Ukrainian warriors realized how to defeat the militias - by bringing down thousands of shells on them and at the same time destroying civilians! Well, Putin really will wait until they say that they will begin to curse him not only in New Russia, but also in Russia ...
    1. Piterkras
      -8
      5 July 2014 08: 32
      And what will you do? Putin works for the Rothschilds. And he has his own specific task. You can't even figure it out with the Caucasians, the warriors suck, the "heroes" of Pugachev, Biryulyov and Kushchevka. Be silent better.
      1. +2
        5 July 2014 08: 41
        How to figure it out? Are you out of your mind what you write? We have a multinational country and all conflicts are resolved in the legal field. Do you want to answer for "firing up"?
        1. Piterkras
          -2
          5 July 2014 09: 12
          In what else legal? You’ll get a face from a Caucasian or Tajik - that’s the whole conversation.
          1. +3
            5 July 2014 09: 52
            In what else legal? Through the police, the court of course. Or is it better to understand it yourself? Then let's ruin the country, they expect only this from us. Russia as a country has always only survived due to friendship between peoples, otherwise the collapse and war. Do you want this? And unbelievable hooligans must be held accountable, regardless of nationality. Among Russian boors no less. Drive along the roads. It’s just that someone really needs to focus on crimes committed not by Russians. Here for this and introduced Art. 282 of the Criminal Code.
          2. ComradeMauser
            +2
            5 July 2014 10: 04
            Quote: piterkras
            You’ll get a face from a Caucasian or Tajik - that’s the whole conversation


            So here is your problem wink Received recently in the face from a Caucasian? And if they had received it from a Russian, would they have offered to "deal with" the Russians?

            Grind all nonsense ...
  38. +2
    5 July 2014 08: 28
    Quote: piterkras
    Why? And business, you understand.

    Well, yes, capitalism, shopkeeping in the subconscious of each individual, personal profit, there is no unifying idea, only money, but they usually separate, for the government it’s convenient to manage such a society
  39. +1
    5 July 2014 08: 36
    Quote: agent xnumx
    It seems to me that it was precisely yesterday that Putin’s confidence and rating began to decline, because without a shudder it’s impossible to look at what Ukrainian people started to do! Apparently, the Ukrainian warriors realized how to defeat the militias - by bringing down thousands of shells on them and at the same time destroying civilians! Well, Putin really will wait until they say that they will begin to curse him not only in New Russia, but also in Russia ...


    And why should Putin and Russia save the civilian population of Donbass by putting their soldiers on the altar, for which he is responsible? Putin is the President of Russia, and not the entire post-Soviet space. Another thing - it was not necessary to talk about the possibility of sending troops if he was not ready for it. The same thing - do not get the gun out of the cabaret if you are not ready to shoot. It was a mistake of our President, and very big. But to make another mistake, in order to prove to everyone that the first time was not mistaken, would be an even greater mistake.
  40. 0
    5 July 2014 08: 37
    Even I look at VO special minuscators got the truth to blame! Reads no longer have the strength ....
  41. +8
    5 July 2014 08: 39
    And here Tsarev joined the choir:

    "The fact that we have actually stopped receiving humanitarian aid from Russia, and a week did not see a single Russian volunteer soldier - not the merit of the junta, but a consequence of the inconsistent actions of our defender, the Kremlin. Vladimir Putin actually ceased to fulfill his promises made to the people of Donbass. We do not need tanks and drones, we need warriorsthat will protect civilians from Kiev aggressors. We need all the power of the Russian army. I'm still sincerely I believe and hope that President Putin is not what he is considered in Ukraine. If, and further we will be supplied with tanks and cheap help, DPR and Lugansk will fall under the onslaught of "fascist forces". Vladimir Putin must defend Donbass, otherwise he will lose Russia in disgrace! Vladimir Vladimirovich promised me, Viktor Fedorovich and the people of Ukraine that he would protect them. We do not see this protection, now we are left alone with a military threat. We need troops from Russia, we can’t fight that handful of youngsters, reserve officers and, excuse me, criminals who will sell at any moment for pennies. After all, the Russians want to help, I spoke with the committee of mothers of Russia, they want to protect the Donbass and bless their sons to war for a just cause", - Tsarev summed up.

    http://politobzor.net/

    The most interesting highlighted. There are no words. "We don't need tanks and drones", "penny help". And how does he assess the composition of the militia forces - "a handful of youngsters, reserve officers and, sorry, criminals who will be sold at any moment for a pittance". Instead of these, according to Tsarev very unreliable, we need ours with maternal blessing.

    The hysteria with an appeal to enter the troops is painfully intense.
    1. White5
      +5
      5 July 2014 09: 06
      You know, I think that in Novorossia today there is a variegated component, and many have deliberately created this situation, and are present there to provoke Russia into an open conflict that is beneficial to the FSA, and which, alas, is now supported by the Russian population. If the military component in the person of Strelkov and other military leaders is very strong, then the political, alas, as in Russia itself, is mostly money trash. The war has been going on for a very long time, and the political leaders of the strong have been mowed down all the more so in Ukraine. In short, they simply will not betray anyone to work almost immediately. About this by the way says Bolotov, a good guy, but Alas, not a politician. He would have advisers what to say, but that they are not visible.
      1. 0
        5 July 2014 11: 48
        In general, the situation looks like this:

        A new Khazaria is being built on the bayonets of the ukronatsiks in the interests of a group of politicians and oligarchs such as Kolomoisky under the patronage of the United States.

        The opening-up hysteria (and indeed the rebellion in the SE), apparently intended to ensure that the oligarchy of the Akhmetov type, left overboard, kept their welfare on Russian bayonets at least in part of the 404 country. Yes, and saw Russian help in the future.

        Russia does not need either one of the [censorship] th.
    2. 0
      6 July 2014 07: 02
      Tsarev has already disowned:
  42. +2
    5 July 2014 08: 40
    So I wanted to make a mistake that this would not happen! It is disgusting to look at the posters with the image of the former pale-eyed sorcerer of the Yeltsin clan in the neighborhood with a powerful angry Russian bear! It is disgusting to read mantras about the foresight of our power! And it’s scary hard to realize your powerlessness before the endless betrayal! And at this time, our State Duma before the summer holidays asked a particularly important question: to develop a gaming zone in the Crimea, or not. We decided not to turn off the phones during the holidays - all of a sudden there will be changes. And the main issue under discussion about beer banners in football matches, while legalizing poker online ...
    1. +2
      5 July 2014 08: 46
      Do you think that the Parliament and the Government should deal only with Ukraine? There is a Foreign Ministry and a President for this.
      1. -1
        5 July 2014 10: 47
        Quote: Rimlianin
        Do you think that the Parliament and the Government should deal only with Ukraine?

        Parliament and Government must deal with their country and their people. For those in the tank: Ukraine and Russia, like Belarus, are ONE country and ONE people, divided by stupid, senseless and treacherous lawlessness. And the sooner all the "tankers" understand this, the less blood our people will pour!
  43. 0
    5 July 2014 08: 47
    Assess objectively, really what the junta is capable of, is to bombard the front edge with shells and fill empty spaces, they have no more successes and cannot be, if they win, then all laws of tactics and strategy need to be rewritten based on the experience of the ATO.
    1. +1
      5 July 2014 08: 58
      They apparently have American military personnel. And we all know the tactics of the American military (scorched earth). Yes, they are not fools, they do not want to repeat our sad experience of taking Grozny in 94.
  44. -3
    5 July 2014 09: 07
    Quote: Rimlianin
    And why should Putin and Russia save the civilian population of Donbass by putting the lives of their soldiers on the altar, for which he is responsible?

    Because - today Donbass, and tomorrow - Russia.
    1. Piterkras
      0
      5 July 2014 09: 11
      So Donbass is not Russia, but part of Ukraine.
  45. +4
    5 July 2014 09: 10
    If Russia does not enter into business in the very near future, Novorossia will die in the very near future.


    DO NOT ENTER! Those to whom you appealed DO NOT DO ANYTHING FOR YOUR RESCUE! It’s time to understand this already. The funniest thing is that Russia is entering the troops now, even the USA will not be very excited. They wait with bated breath, the GDP will show itself or ...
    Calculation accurate - ...

    Brain Summary

    "Today, the enemy convoy with heavy weapons, which moved from Artyomovsk, was repulsed by the Popasnyanskiy checkpoint. At the same time, near the village of Varvarovka, where Msta-S and other heavy weapons were located, the mortar group worked out the enemy’s positions. There are no losses among the mortar group. "


    Well, here's another confirmation that a static defense with such a balance of power is deadly for militias! Only mobile, built on sabotage actions, aimed at the destruction of artillery, aircraft, warehouses with b / p, command staff ukrov will be effective.
    Yesterday, on TV, shots of a volley of howitzers of ukrov, soldiers in uniform 2 calmly bring shells, fumbling something there, i.e. the feeling that they are completely safe! Why? A sniper couple would have tempered their zeal and impunity. A better fire attack RDG and left ...
    UNTIL THE ARMENIA, DNI and LC will be tied to the peaceful population defined by us. ITEMS, STATIC POSITIONS - EFFECTIVE ACTIONS WILL NOT BE. YOU DO NOT HAVE SO MUCH FORCES AND MEANS, AND THE RUSSIAN LEADERSHIP WILL NOT HELP YOU IN THIS (as in another)!
    1. +2
      5 July 2014 10: 08
      Your logic applies to mountainous terrain, forests and swamps. On the plain, all of these DRGs are quickly calculated and destroyed. Especially among the local traitors there are enough.
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  47. Vadim
    +4
    5 July 2014 09: 22
    Let Putin say what is the difference between the situation in Crimea and the Donbass, how is Russian different in the Crimea and in the Luhansk region, probably only because there are no Crimean Tatars here? This week, Krasin (Deputy Lavrov) said that if Russia did not intervene in the affairs of Crimea, it would be even worse there than in New Russia. Worse yet, what does he grind?
    Now we need to understand what happens when Ukrainians occupy settlements women are raped in front of children, doctors and our correspondents will be the first to be destroyed, I'm not talking about the male population. They are surrounded and there is no place to run to them, in my opinion there is no worse life to sit waiting for torment, humiliation and violence. And these creatures are fighting on our Gazprom money (after all, everyone knows that Gazprom is our national treasure), on which Miller was divorced.
    What can Putin expect after his statements about the Russian world, which he will defend and thereby provoked the Donbass to fight? Where is his cunning plan that everyone has been waiting for? Can we repair and restore the Crimea and give it back to the parashenka? Why scared? Sanction? Let Duck know that the Russians are ready for them, ready and fight, only let the army volunteers, whom we support, not our volunteers, who have already been killed there a lot (their death is on the conscience of our President). The army should fight against the army, not unarmed patriots. All the same, it’s necessary to fight, it’s better to start it now, and not defending the borders of Russia already.
    I believe that it is necessary to organize an all-Russian rally not against the President, but in his support, to show that the people with him, spit on sanctions, are tolerant. Worse than Russian in Novorossia will not. If this is not done now, there will be another demonstration for a change of power led by Nemtsov, Novodvorskaya, Makarevich and other scum.
    It is also important to understand that all this Polish-Ukrainian cross is not our brothers, our brothers and sister live in New Russia, let's not let them die with the thought that they were betrayed by an older brother.
    1. pritorius
      +1
      5 July 2014 10: 55
      Let Putin say what the difference between the situation in Crimea and Donbass is.

      I’ll answer you, the difference is that 99% of the population rose in the Crimea and 5% in Dombas, do you feel the difference?
  48. +1
    5 July 2014 09: 25
    There are traitors in the Kremlin, and this is another confirmation.
  49. +1
    5 July 2014 09: 30
    Quote: Rimlianin
    Do you think that the Parliament and the Government should deal only with Ukraine? There is a Foreign Ministry and a President for this.


    I don’t think - I know what parliament should do in a difficult time for the country! Not the president, but the government determines the priority of state tasks. What are they doing, as mentioned above! A democratic governance structure, however!
  50. +1
    5 July 2014 09: 38
    [quote = Skif83] [quote] [i]


    Well, here's another confirmation that a static defense with such a balance of power is deadly for militias! Only mobile, built on sabotage actions, aimed at the destruction of artillery, aircraft, warehouses with b / p, command staff ukrov will be effective.
    Yesterday, on TV, shots of a volley of howitzers of ukrov, soldiers in uniform 2 calmly bring shells, fumbling something there, i.e. the feeling that they are completely safe! Why? A sniper couple would have tempered their zeal and impunity. A better fire attack RDG and left ...
    UNTIL THE ARMY DPR and LPR will be tied to the peaceful population defined by us. ITEMS, STATIC POSITIONS - EFFECTIVE ACTIONS WILL NOT BE. YOU DO NOT HAVE SO MUCH FORCES AND MEANS, AND THE RUSSIAN LEADERSHIP WILL NOT HELP YOU IN THIS (as in another)! [/ Quote]

    And how do you imagine the conduct of sabotage actions in the steppe? Landings, if any, can be seen through. There are two or three rows of trees. Get into satellite images and try to figure out how to quietly pull up at least some significant forces for the assault on Karachun. south of Karachun is occupied by the Natsiks, northwest of the same garbage.
  51. 0
    5 July 2014 10: 01
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZWQwloUyn4#t=117
  52. wanderer_032
    0
    5 July 2014 10: 01
    I appeal to the forum members: do you guys have any opinions about what the GDP could really have planned about the situation in Novorossiya?
    If you have one, write me a private message.
    I’ve been walking here for over a month now and I can’t understand anything about the actions of our government.
    There are no traces of information even pointing to anything specific... Vacuum, it feels like there’s no one there (you know where)...
    To be honest, I'm confused.
    How many people have already spoken out one way or another for specific measures against the Kyiv gang, the result is zero.
    It looks like your hearing is really bad up there. Meanwhile, in Novorossiya, hundreds of people are dying every day.
    I can’t understand what else Russia can expect to finally do something to protect the Russian people, wherever they are?
    From the sea of ​​weather? The coming of the next "messiah"? Decisive and necessary measures for this?
    Since the majority of citizens of the Russian Federation (except for psychopaths and moral monsters) are really interested in the question of Russia’s inaction on the situation in Novorossiya, then perhaps someone should already give an answer to it?
    To tell people the truth, like this and that, that’s why we don’t do shit.
    Or we really have a cunningly bent plan, but we will tell you about it later, after the victory, but therefore be patient.
    But while there is no official statement in the media, various kinds of rumors are flourishing among the civilian population, casting a shadow on the country’s leadership.
    1. +3
      5 July 2014 10: 42
      There are no traces of information even pointing to anything specific... Vacuum, it feels like there’s no one there (you know where)...


      They answered it themselves. There is no plan. Unless: “Send a note of protest to the UN and/or OSCE”
  53. +4
    5 July 2014 10: 08
    But our government goes on summer vacation like schoolchildren.
    The poor are overworked...
  54. +6
    5 July 2014 10: 33
    Yesterday, the organization’s team decided to help the refugees who were placed in our region, and after leaving and looking at the place, it became clear that exactly half of the 315 people are men, healthy, arrogant, boorish, who don’t give a damn about their homeland, when asked what they want necessary, they asked, no, not like that, they demanded a TV and cigarettes.
    In short, they decided to help only children, old people and women.
    I don’t want to help people who left their country and demand refugee status for themselves as quickly as possible in order to receive various subsidies and Russian citizenship.
    1. +4
      5 July 2014 10: 49
      And so Russia must fight for them? Despite the fact that the rest of Ukraine is sharply opposed to the Russian Federation, so when troops are sent in, nothing will happen to us there. And we can help the women and children of Ukraine who were subjected to genocide here. Which is what we do.
  55. +5
    5 July 2014 10: 35
    Damn, are there guys on the site or hysterical women?
    Well, turn your heads on already. Well, Strelkov will not talk about really important information on a publicly available video. Strelkov is a military man, so he knows very well who and what needs to be reported. Therefore, we are given what we need to hear, and what is really important is known in the Kremlin.
    Let's look at these summaries. Slavyansk has been shelled, a convoy of military equipment has been heading towards Semyonovka since about June 30 and is still going. What has changed? All this time the dill stood around Slavyansk and poured fire on it. They attacked Nikolaevka, that’s how it’s holding on, there are deserters, that’s the intelligence work of the junta, and who said that it would be easy, but Motorola is holding on without them. Slavyansk is cut off, so already, if you remember, after the battles near Yampol, Strelkov spoke about cutting off Slavyansk, now it’s been cut off again. On all other fronts, the militia everywhere holds back the attacks of the dill and even inflicts serious losses on them. The only thing that has changed is the intensity of the shelling. And Strelkov again “laments” that we’re screwed. When he’s “genuinely screwed,” he’ll tell his command about it, not us. And now everything is simple. Peaceful but brainless stupid people who sit for 3 months in shelled and blockaded Slavyansk and did not think of leaving (put yourself in their place, would you sit there with the kids and your wife, or would you take them to your relatives and return yourself to get machine gun), began to die en masse from intensified shelling, we need to save them from these shellings. Plus we need to feed them and treat them. In order to give them at least a break and bring in supplies, or better yet, carry them out with kicks, an assault is needed, during which it will be possible to break the blockade on the quiet and the dill artillery will be distracted from shelling residential areas. Here Strelkov once again pretends to be a terminally ill Pierrot in the hope that the dill will fall in love again. You can google on the Internet to see how many times Strelkov has performed in this role.
    I can offer one more option. The situation is indeed very serious (though not military, but humanitarian) and it is necessary to introduce a “plan B” and for this the atmosphere is escalated. In any case, we'll wait and see. So far, no one has defeated anyone.
    And there is no need to focus on GDP. I am far from a supporter of him and his oligarchs, but now objectively we need to trust the authorities, and not shake them, because there is war. And the GDP has already been promised the fate of Gaddafi, under such a threat he certainly will not betray us, I want to live, I suppose.
    1. -1
      5 July 2014 11: 09
      Quote: alicante11
      And the GDP has already been promised the fate of Gaddafi, under such a threat he certainly will not betray us, I want to live, I suppose.

      They stupidly explained to him that if you really help Novorossiya, it will be a mess. So he fucked up, and all the Kremlin analysts sing with one voice about his genius, that the Russian Federation does not interfere...
      1. +1
        5 July 2014 11: 39
        Actually, he was given a black mark much earlier. Tags, McCain, Assad, Gaddafi, Putin. Remember or Google when this happened.
  56. 0
    5 July 2014 10: 48
    MOSCOW, July 5 – RIA Novosti. A column of militia military equipment broke through to Kramatorsk from Slavyansk, despite the opposition of security forces, Ukrainian media reported, citing eyewitnesses.
    Approximately three KamAZ trucks, two tanks and eight vehicles arrived in the center of Kramatorsk to the local militia headquarters. In addition, eyewitnesses report one armored personnel carrier and five cars in the Lazurny microdistrict.
    Twitter users report 50 units of militia military equipment that broke into Kramatorsk through the fields. From the side of Mount Karachun, the Ukrainian military fired heavily at the vehicles. Shooting was also reported in the village of Belenkoye near Slavyansk.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140705/1014811926.html#ixzz36ZeyGyRs
  57. 0
    5 July 2014 10: 50
    LPR report, morning of July 4, 2014

    “Last night there were fierce battles in the suburbs of Lugansk. In the evening, the enemy shelled the village of Bolshaya Vergunka; according to preliminary data, there was one killed (a young woman) and one wounded among the civilian population.
    In response, at night the army of the Lugansk People's Republic attacked enemy positions in the village of Shchastya from the Grad multiple launch rocket system. Also that night, combat units of Lugansk fired mortars at the territory of the Lugansk airport.
    In response, at around 4 a.m., the enemy fired at the city, trying to conduct aimed fire at the location of the Zarya battalion in the area of ​​the Regional Military Commissariat, presumably from a 122-mm howitzer located in Green Grove; the shells hit a barracks located in close proximity to the Cancer Hospital, bus station, and an enemy shell fell near the 7th school.
    According to the latest operational data, today in the first half of the day the enemy deployed three Grad multiple rocket launchers in the area of ​​Stukalova Balka, in a wheat field near the villages of Oboznoe and Khristovye, two crews were deployed towards Lugansk, one - towards Stanitsa Luganskaya. The installations were accompanied by 6 armored personnel carriers, 10 trucks, minibuses and civilian vehicles.
    Also, from July 2 to 4, 2014, the armed forces of the Lugansk People's Republic destroyed one Grad installation, a mortar battery, 2 armored personnel carriers, 4 tanks, 3 infantry fighting vehicles, 4 howitzers and 3 aggressor aircraft. In three days, the LPR Army eliminated 125 punishers.
    Beginning July 2, the enemy carried out almost continuous artillery and mortar shelling of a number of cities and towns in the Luhansk region, including the suburbs of the capital. The LPR Army’s return fire destroyed the officer’s tent, equipped with air conditioning, a satellite dish and communication system elements.
    Also, Lugansk scouts managed to track down and neutralize the enemy’s mobile command post based on the trailer semitrailer, equipped with space communications and surveillance elements.
    July 3, on the day of the barbaric bombing of the village of Staraya Kondrashovka, LPR reconnaissance revealed the movement routes and accumulations of armored vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, 2 Ukrainian tanks were captured.
    On July 4, the Ukrainian Armed Forces continued to conduct continuous mortar and artillery shelling. The enemy’s military transport aircraft conducted reconnaissance around the Luhansk airport, still held by units of the Ukrainian army. Ukrainian subversive groups acted in the direction of the village of Aleksandrovsk.
    For its part, units of the LPR army concentrated on two tasks: the defense of Lugansk and the Izvarino checkpoint on the border with Russia. The return fire of Lugansk residents destroyed the checkpoint of Ukrainian troops near the village of Makarov, destroyed the mortar and howitzer.
    Heavy fighting continues to this day near the Izvarino checkpoint. "
  58. ed65b
    0
    5 July 2014 11: 01
    Someone said that Putin took a bite of Crimea and he will choke on it, judging by the latest actions of Moscow, Putin has already begun to choke on it. If nothing changes, he will give back Crimea. Along the way, the athlete was blown away since he now has only two options: either to help Novorossiya openly without sending in troops or with sending in, loudly announcing to the whole world and presenting an ultimatum to Kyiv. or give up, admit defeat to Russia and resign. And Crimea will have to be returned, since he will not fight for it.
  59. 0
    5 July 2014 11: 02
    Ian has this comment...

    “The worst thing is that Russia not only does not help the militia, but has also begun to actively interfere... one of our armored cars that we bought for Slavyansk was sealed yesterday along with an entire service in Moscow... before that they tried by sending provocateurs , take away another armored car..."
  60. +2
    5 July 2014 11: 16
    Quote: blackberry
    People, don’t listen to the pathetic coward and scoundrel... There will be nothing fatal... Although I can’t believe that a man can think about his own skin when they kill a child, even a stranger and even the child of an enemy.

    Quote: Vadim
    , I'm not even talking about the male population.

    How long can you shame and blame Russia, Putin and OUR Russian men???!!!
    Are all the children ORPHANS and the old people NOBODY???!! Or do the sons of these old men and the fathers/brothers of these children not care about them!!!!??
  61. 0
    5 July 2014 11: 19
    I caught on the radio that several units of armored vehicles had broken through the fields from Slavyansk to Kramatorsk. A withdrawal to save the equipment from destruction? Or leaving? And the Kremlin is silent in vain, at least it gave an adequate response to the shelling of Russian territory by the Nazis. The GDP rating will be lower than the sewer if it allows Novorossiya to be drained. The Nazis will cleanse Novorossiya, the majority of residents will go to Russia, everyone will have to be provided with travel arrangements. And these are oh, what expenses from the treasury (by the way, the treasury is filled at the expense of taxpayers too). The Nazis, their guides from the staff and the EU members are the winners, but Russia and its inhabitants (not the oligarchs) are in shit up to their ears or more
  62. caduser4
    0
    5 July 2014 11: 22
    All weeders assembled
  63. -1
    5 July 2014 11: 30
    Poroshenko and Putin are millionaires, but a raven can’t peck out a crow’s eye. If I were president, I would give Iskander to the militia or destroy the Rada with its fascist inhabitants, without waiting for this infection to spread.
  64. -1
    5 July 2014 13: 23
    A drama is unfolding before our eyes. As a result, the Russian Federation receives Russian labor migrants who will “plow to the Russian Federation” to start everything from scratch.
    The other part, which went towards Nikolaev and Odessa, will hate the Russian Federation for inciting this conflict. But let the population of the Russian Federation be determined by V.V. Putin’s rating. We are not their advisers.
    Oligarchy, however. Grannies are dearer to them than any idea.
  65. 0
    5 July 2014 13: 54
    Officials of the Donetsk terrorist “DPR” confirm that they have left Slovyansk.
    “Slovyansk is under the control of the Ukrainian security forces. Early on, the French militia were hesitant to leave the place. This was confirmed to us at the headquarters of the voted Donetsk Republic,” the news release on the Russian channel said.

    Recently, the Russian channel "Russia-24" reported that the terrorists had fought their way out of Sloviansk, and their headquarters had moved to Kramatorsk

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"