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Second Serbia?

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Hello, dear forum users! I was forced to write this article by the circumstances that are taking place in the south-east of Ukraine, as well as by the putinsley position of many of our citizens.

But first, let's take a quick look.

In one sunny summer of 1914, one small Slavic young country was subjected to the aggression of its western neighbor. Artillery fire destroyed houses, killed civilians. But the capital held heroically, although the army was mostly armed only with small arms. weapons.

Russia began to appeal to the world community, trying in every way to resolve this conflict with the world. But alas. Many beautiful words of Western leaders turned only sounds. And the blood continued to flow the most real. In Russia itself, in support of the Slav brothers, meetings were held, all media appealed to the country's leadership and demanded to stand up for the brothers. And then Russia decided to push the troops to the borders of the country. But this was immediately frightened by Russia's long-time rival and began to demand explanations and an end to the “provocation”, in exchange promising to help the peace process. Russia agreed and announced the cessation of concentration of forces on the country's border. However, the situation did not change and there was no real movement towards the world. Nobody even tried to stop the aggressor. And then Russia again began to concentrate its troops. Patriotic citizens by that time had already lost their voice from shouting, demanding to protect their brothers. And then ... And then ... Then came August 1914. And then the most bloody, most brutal war of all that came before it began. This war crushed and passed through itself millions of Russian people, and those who yesterday with a torn voice demanded war and went with the flags of Russia, three or four years later, were killed in the basement of the sovereign of that country, and Russia itself was plunged into the depths of the Civil War .

History repeated, friends. I appeal to those who today say: "Well, when will we send troops to Ukraine". Are you ready to join the army, leaving his wife and children at home? Leave to fight and possibly die? Or let someone else do it? Are you ready for hardship for yourself and your family? After all, today practically the whole world is against us ...

This article is not written from panic. It is written in order to reflect on the consequences of the introduction of troops into the New Russia.
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  1. aspirin02
    aspirin02 7 July 2014 14: 07
    +1
    The junta inspects the weapons of the Strelkov militia in Slavyansk !!!!
    1. Момент
      Момент 7 July 2014 14: 08
      +9
      There will be a turning point the other day. The militia is not giving up, and this says a lot. Yesterday in Solovyov’s program it was clearly said that no one was losing anything. Panic is a bad adviser.
      And in Slavyansk, weapons toys were left, let the National Guard play and rejoice.
      1. lukke
        lukke 7 July 2014 14: 13
        +2
        But the trend did not go very well - here Kuraginyan also noted: http: //warfiles.ru/show-63351-na-strelkova-nachalas-informacionnaya-at
        aka-iz-moskvy.html
        1. Himalayan
          Himalayan 7 July 2014 14: 28
          +12
          Repost

          UPD: VERY IMPORTANT! Verified information from the source from the place. In the outskirts of Slavyansk, where previously there were positions of junta troops, construction equipment appeared. Excavation work is underway, the territory is guarded, posts from nazgad are placed around the perimeter, patrolling is ongoing; Apparently they open their own burial grounds, where they previously dug up conscripts who refused to shoot civilians and their punishers.
          This is especially correlated with other information received from Kiev - there is evidence that the Ukrainian propagandists are going to mount a report in which they tell about the "atrocities" of the militia, they say, they shot civilians. Considering that there are already the first killed among the civilian population after the entry of dill into Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, a provocation can take place literally today or tomorrow. A source from Kiev said the report was scheduled for tomorrow. Please spread this situation on social media as much as possible to prevent this heinous provocation.


          http://arbaletfire.livejournal.com/215655.html
          1. REMBO
            REMBO 7 July 2014 15: 25
            +5
            This had to be foreseen! And long ago to inform parents that came to dig their children. And now all this will turn against the militias! Strelkov wrote for a long time about these graves from which the stench goes. Neither Tsarev nor Pushiin ... no one reacted.
          2. Gado
            Gado 7 July 2014 18: 12
            +3
            This will not be the first time for ukroSMI, they also have shtatovskie instructors, masters of their craft, there is nothing to be surprised at. The information war has been going on in parallel with the present one, since 1991 and "Desert Storm", then CNN did live reports for the first time, remember the bursts of tracer bullets over Baghdad and how "good" they looked on TV. In short, bastards, fuck them!
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        3. Flinky
          Flinky 7 July 2014 14: 33
          +3
          Kurginyan is nobody there, and there is no way to call him.
          However, here he is nobody ...
          1. 225chay
            225chay 7 July 2014 21: 56
            0
            Quote: Flinky
            Kurginyan is nobody there, and there is no way to call him.
            However, here he is nobody ...


            Kremlin mouthpiece ...
        4. mamont5
          mamont5 7 July 2014 14: 40
          +7
          Quote: lukke
          But the trend did not go very well - here Kuraginyan also noted: http: //warfiles.ru/show-63351-na-strelkova-nachalas-informacionnaya-at

          aka-iz-moskvy.html


          As Kurginyan noted him is not at all a plus. It’s not for him to blame Strelkov. He himself didn’t hit a finger on his finger.
          1. 225chay
            225chay 7 July 2014 21: 58
            0
            Quote: mamont5
            As Kurginyan noted him is not at all a plus. It’s not for him to blame Strelkov. He himself didn’t hit a finger on his finger.


            This "political scientist" -intrigan can only sprinkle with saliva while participating in TV programs ...
        5. Barmal
          Barmal 7 July 2014 15: 38
          +6
          Quote: lukke
          But the trend did not go very well - here Kuraginyan also noted: http: //warfiles.ru/show-63351-na-strelkova-nachalas-informaci
          onnaya-at

          aka-iz-moskvy.html

          neurotic Kurginyan could not resist the opportunity to hit Strelkova. I am disgusted to look at Kurginyan. If earlier I wrote him off as inadequate on TV in disputes with my opponent Svanidze for excessive emotionality, then after hitting Strelkov Igor Ivanovich, sitting on a green sofa with an entourage of two AKs, to which Kurginyan has the same attitude as I personally, then there is no, in short, he is this bastard Kurginyan. Besides contempt and disgust for him there is nothing.
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      3. alex13-61
        alex13-61 7 July 2014 14: 20
        +4
        Quote: Moment
        The militia does not give up

        The militias seized the SU-25 ... Equipment requires easy repair.
        Of course, don't get it!
        1. rrrd
          rrrd 7 July 2014 14: 25
          +9
          little to repair it! it needs to be serviced! refuel, hang candy and land the pilot! and so what sense they captured? where will it accelerate !? on the field?
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          2. Himalayan
            Himalayan 7 July 2014 14: 30
            +1
            In any case ... where there is one, there are two ..., three ...
            The main thing is that it is legally alienated from dill.
          3. Homo
            Homo 7 July 2014 14: 46
            +2
            Quote: rrrd
            little to repair it! it needs to be serviced! refuel, hang candy and land the pilot! and so what sense they captured? where will it accelerate !? on the field?

            And turn on your head? Then they captured him not in the field!
          4. Vadivak
            Vadivak 7 July 2014 14: 58
            +9
            Quote: rrrd
            where will it accelerate !? on the field?


            But nothing that the Su-25 in Afghanistan acted precisely from the field airfields of Mazar-e-Sharif and Kunduz? Field airfield is no obstacle for this attack aircraft, tea is not American, soldier-plane
          5. alex13-61
            alex13-61 7 July 2014 15: 10
            +3
            Quote: rrrd
            it needs to be serviced! refuel, hang candy and land the pilot!

            Previously doubted the presence of tanker militias ... There will be pilots, candy flammable ... and there you look ... and begin to multiply ... division lol
          6. Irokez
            Irokez 7 July 2014 19: 26
            0
            Quote: rrrd
            little to repair it! it needs to be serviced! refuel, hang candy and land the pilot! and so what sense they captured? where will it accelerate !? on the field?

            You can sit on a fairly wide track in any flat area.
            In addition, there is and should be unpaved GDP (not to be confused with Putin - this is the Runway) in case of war (usually laid on the side of concrete GDP). The service staff is not so difficult. The tanker and the vehicle with ammunition can be taken to the place of planned landing. The main goal is to identify the route, intelligence and so on.
            He is a ground attack aircraft and should be unpretentious to GDP.
      4. abc_02
        abc_02 7 July 2014 14: 28
        0
        And what exactly will the fracture be? Now they’ll most likely sit out and rest in Slavyansk, then they will advance to Donetsk and Lugansk. I think ukroArmy army will not soon pull up to new positions. And here the most interesting thing is whether the Strelkovites will be able to slow down the advance of equipment and troops with their RDGs. Chechnya, for example, with high-explosive road ambushes.
      5. Predator
        Predator 7 July 2014 14: 33
        +6
        Then in 1914, the war took place in any situation. The redistribution with the help of armed struggle was launched and it was not possible to stop it. Now is another situation, for a start, who is Ukraine for Europe?! No one, and to climb a well-fed Europe into the war because of a poor country ?! There are no fools. In addition, see the NATO bloc, who is so rich there that will fork out for war?! Germany will not go to such expenses, and the rest can barely make ends. Yes, they understand, get 100, but God forbid 1000 coffins So the townsfolk will demolish their soldiers in one fell swoop. The United States has a lot of pain points around the world, and it’s not the same with finances to start a war with Russia. Well, sanctions, let them shove ourselves in anal sex, we’ll survive. So we are the author scary ?! We are scared.
        1. Altona
          Altona 7 July 2014 15: 04
          +6
          Quote: Predator
          Then in 1914, the war took place in any situation. The redistribution with the help of armed struggle was launched and it was not possible to stop it. Now is another situation, for a start, who is Ukraine for Europe?! No one, and to climb a well-fed Europe into the war because of a poor country ?! There are no fools.

          ------------------------
          We'll send in troops, we'll get 1914, if we don't, we'll get 1941 ... Don't know where to go ... Shouts "if only there was no war" ... And we get a war in any scenario, even if "Nikolashkin's policy of protecting Serbia" "Stalinist non-interference" ... The Europeans will not get into the war, but they are very fond of inciting Ukraine and Georgia against us ... And they even give money for this business together with the USA ...
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 7 July 2014 21: 27
            +2
            Quote: Altona
            We will introduce troops, we will receive 1914 year, we will not enter, we will receive 1941 ..
            In any case, Russia would have found itself drawn into the First World War, having entered into an alliance with the Entente and gained credits from England and France. Speculations on Serbia have already got out. The Serbs are not to blame for the fact that the Russian army was worse prepared for war than the armies of Austria-Hungary and Germany. The USSR could not have left the Second World War either. Here, the justifications for the necessary preparation time do not explain how passivity ("not to succumb to provocations") can keep the aggressor from starting the war he has planned. Nor do they explain why Hitler had to wait for our rearmament. Returning to the present, even without these analogies to world wars, I would like to say in one phrase that everyone expects from the president - “I don’t take a bribe, I am offended for the Power!”. And, also, it is very bitter and insulting for ordinary people thrown at the mercy of the Ukronazists, those who believed in Russia and Putin's words about protection. Everything else, shameful excuses, why our commanders, strangers, cannot rip off their uniforms, oh Russian bayonets ...
      6. avt
        avt 7 July 2014 15: 31
        +2
        Quote: Moment
        . Panic is a bad adviser.

        Exactly ! By the way, Life was informed that Su-25 was in Luhansk. So tired, he repented and sat down. And for some reason the pilot did not jump on the broken car, much less pull to his own. And the militiamen suddenly found several memorial monuments of helicopters on the pedestals and now "craftsmen", like their T-34-85 restore! laughing
      7. Alexan
        Alexan 7 July 2014 15: 35
        +1
        Quote: Moment
        Yesterday, Soloviev’s program clearly stated


        Do not focus on this program, which is designed to emit emotions like REN-TV to please the liberals. Analyze the first channel. Apparently - while they think what to do in the new situation.
    2. portoc65
      portoc65 7 July 2014 14: 12
      +5
      There are a lot of people .. There are enough volunteers in Novorossiya .. South Ossetia recognized New Russia, can draw up a friendship agreement with it and officially buy weapons in Ossetia .. Russia, as it were, will have nothing to do with it .. these are the internal affairs of 2 states .. what
    3. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 7 July 2014 14: 12
      +8
      Quote: aspirin02
      The junta inspects the weapons of the Strelkov militia in Slavyansk !!!!

      In his interview, Strelkov said that this weapon is expired; they tried to shoot it, it fails constantly. So the joy of the Maydans is empty.
      1. Burberry
        Burberry 7 July 2014 15: 11
        +1
        Quote: subbtin.725
        In his interview, Strelkov said that this weapon is expired; they tried to shoot them, it fails constantly.

        In this video, I really liked Strelkov’s gift of dill - the Nazi form. Neatly so folded.
        Beautifully gone, well done!
    4. rrrd
      rrrd 7 July 2014 14: 14
      -2
      Arsenal stuffed!
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 7 July 2014 14: 39
        +2
        Quote: rrrd
        Arsenal stuffed!

        The first tube is empty. I did not look further.
    5. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 7 July 2014 14: 24
      +1
      If only undermined all this nonsense, to dill
      not happy.
    6. Homo
      Homo 7 July 2014 14: 45
      0
      And under the list is the signature of Shoigu, endorsed by Putin !!! bully
    7. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 7 July 2014 14: 52
      0
      They left too many ATGMs, but they did not undermine an interesting question, it’s an expensive weapon.
      And let the punishers temporarily rejoice.
    8. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 7 July 2014 14: 58
      +1
      It is a pity that the large arsenal fell into the hands of Bandera ..
      1. Northerner
        Northerner 7 July 2014 16: 26
        0
        Strelkov, previously said that these birds rejected from 10 shots 9 went to the sky (((, but with cartridges it is not clear!
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      3. Irokez
        Irokez 7 July 2014 19: 33
        0
        Quote: INVESTOR
        It is a pity that the large arsenal fell into the hands of Bandera.

        And you do not think that these can be specially shown frames made by Dill for provocation. After all, no one shows in which particular place the shooting was conducted.
    9. gosha1970
      gosha1970 7 July 2014 17: 36
      0
      Dear members of the forum, today I read this in one social network: "So, in Moscow they said goodbye to the soldiers of the 45th special forces regiment of the Airborne Forces, who somehow simultaneously died under unknown circumstances. Either a group accident, or they were destroyed during ATO in Ukraine. " Can anyone COMPETENTLY say true or false? I ask only without professional comments like: climb less on all sorts of garbage sites. Anyone have any acquaintances in this regiment?
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 7 July 2014 17: 58
        +1
        Quote: gosha1970
        gosha1970 (3) Today, 17:36 ↑
        Dear members of the forum, today I read this in one social network: "So, in Moscow they said goodbye to the soldiers of the 45th special forces regiment of the Airborne Forces, who somehow simultaneously died under unknown circumstances. Either a group accident, or they were destroyed during ATO in Ukraine. " Can anyone COMPETENTLY say true or false? I ask only without professional comments like: climb less on all sorts of garbage sites. Anyone have any acquaintances in this regiment?

        desa
    10. Number 17
      Number 17 7 July 2014 21: 23
      +1
      So I waited for the moment when he opens the box and there is a check from F1 as in a cinema chikk.
  2. rrrd
    rrrd 7 July 2014 14: 07
    +3
    if there is no answer now, then it’s certain that by August, at least, hail will pour in the Rostov Region!
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 7 July 2014 14: 11
      -13
      Quote: rrrd
      hailstones will accidentally pour into the Rostov Region!

      While Kremlyandiya will figure out what to do. All territories below Engels will be occupied.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 7 July 2014 14: 19
        +12
        Quote: Stypor23
        While kremlyandiya will figure out what to do

        Yesterday Tsarev and Pushilin asked Kiselev and Astakhov uncomfortable questions. Why can the United States steal a person (of any citizenship) anywhere in the world sentenced by a court in the United States, but is it weak for us? Why does Israel strike airstrikes on the territories of other states, without any UN resolutions, but to us weak? We, the army at the UN, and introduce at least a no-fly zone over SE. Without the introduction of troops.
        1. Stypor23
          Stypor23 7 July 2014 14: 24
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Without the introduction of troops.

          Right.
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          We, the army at the UN, and introduce at least a no-fly zone over SE

          Of course, to shoot ebn weed aviation to hell.
      2. nikrandel
        nikrandel 7 July 2014 14: 34
        +1
        The events of a hundred years ago should not be repeated, there is an insolent provocation from the side of the Ukrosha, in order to entangle Russia into a long bloody war. \
        They sleep and see how Russia will intervene in the conflict, then to accuse it of aggression.
        Here you need to be a tactician, not a daredevil.
        Everyone blames Putin for inaction, why ordinary people die. If he brought in troops, there would have been much more victims.
        1. Stypor23
          Stypor23 7 July 2014 14: 40
          0
          Quote: nikrandel
          there is a blatant provocation from the

          SHOOTING AT OUR BORDERS IN THE TERRITORY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, throw an answer on these fash with, y, k, am and all for now.
          1. Irokez
            Irokez 7 July 2014 19: 37
            -1
            Quote: Stypor23
            Quote: nikrandel
            there is a blatant provocation from the

            SHOOTING AT OUR BORDERS IN THE TERRITORY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, throw an answer on these fash with, y, k, am and all for now.

            Behind the otvetka, the otvetka, and so on, the torch of war flared up here. Think lieutenant with a purchased hero star.
            1. Stypor23
              Stypor23 7 July 2014 21: 21
              0
              Once you sit down, as it should, calm down. In a week e..nut across Rostov and Che, the president will chew again with a preoccupied look. And so they have already begun to bury Russian citizens in the ground because of this vagabond, so it should be, a resident of an Indian reservation.
              1. Irokez
                Irokez 8 July 2014 13: 04
                0
                Quote: Stypor23
                Once you sit down, as it should, calm down. In a week e..nut across Rostov and Che, the president will chew again with a preoccupied look. And so they have already begun to bury Russian citizens in the ground because of this vagabond, so it should be, a resident of an Indian reservation.

                There is no need to sow panic and bury even more people into the ground with an answer. Ukraine is not Georgia. Everything is much subtler and more dangerous here.
                1. Stypor23
                  Stypor23 8 July 2014 13: 43
                  0
                  Sergey, I WILL LOOK WHAT YOU SAY WHEN THESE T, VARI will reach Voronezh.
                2. pin head
                  pin head 8 July 2014 15: 49
                  0
                  it’s not necessary to answer from the city. A sniper is working on our border guards, suddenly oh and a hole in his head (I have a classmate in a physics lesson when asked why to press the butt to the shoulder she answered: if you do not press the butt to the shoulder, the bullet will fly back and explain if claims are made), they shoot from a mortar towards Russia, suddenly a mine in their hands explodes, etc.
                3. pin head
                  pin head 8 July 2014 15: 49
                  0
                  it’s not necessary to answer from the city. A sniper is working on our border guards, suddenly oh and a hole in his head (I have a classmate in a physics lesson when asked why to press the butt to the shoulder she answered: if you do not press the butt to the shoulder, the bullet will fly back and explain if claims are made), they shoot from a mortar towards Russia, suddenly a mine in their hands explodes, etc.
  3. portoc65
    portoc65 7 July 2014 14: 08
    +9
    Of course, troops may not be necessary to enter troops .. but weapons must be delivered .. There will be something to fight and without direct participation of Russia, militias will cope with the junta
  4. tomket
    tomket 7 July 2014 14: 08
    +7
    People, there was news about the "forced" Su-25 on the territory of the LPR, villages with minor damages, the LPR forces are carrying out restoration repairs. Also infa about the capture ATTENTION T-72 with minor breakdowns! Who can confirm or comment on anything ???
    1. abc_02
      abc_02 7 July 2014 14: 17
      +8
      Quote: Imperial
      Here, too, got hold of aviation good



      This is what is being said about.
    2. major071
      major071 7 July 2014 14: 23
      +6
       tomket
      news about the "forced" Su-25 on the territory of the LPR, villages with minor damages, the LPR forces are carrying out restoration repairs. Also infa about the capture ATTENTION T-72 with minor breakdowns! Who can confirm or comment on anything ???


      So far, only on YouTube video:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lghbQmTwaHg
    3. Andrew 447
      Andrew 447 7 July 2014 15: 11
      0
      The main thing is that the Su-25 can fly, and you can fly to Russia to refuel, replenish ammunition and be serviced.
      1. Jin
        Jin 7 July 2014 15: 38
        0
        Quote: Andrey 447
        The main thing is that the Su-25 can fly, and you can fly to Russia to refuel, replenish ammunition and be serviced.


        Is it not from Russia that he flew in for an hour? laughing Like the 72nd came ... just like from a cornucopia showered)))
  5. vsoltan
    vsoltan 7 July 2014 14: 10
    +2
    Rrrd
    I think that in the opposite direction something "accidentally" wakes up ...
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 7 July 2014 14: 13
      +1
      Like the weather is bad? hail went winked
    2. rrrd
      rrrd 7 July 2014 14: 15
      0
      but for now BUT BUTthat protest
  6. Yellow white
    Yellow white 7 July 2014 14: 10
    +10
    Quote: aspirin02
    The junta inspects the weapons of the Strelkov militia in Slavyansk !!!!


    Yes, in any way crap, it is necessary to report!
    Igor Ivanovich would not have thrown a little fit, again, there was no panic and flight!
    During the Second World War, for skillful retreat awarded!
    1. Ustas
      Ustas 7 July 2014 14: 23
      +5
      Quote: Black and White
      Yes, in any way crap, it is necessary to report! Igor Ivanovich would not have thrown a little bit fit, again there was no panic and flight!

      Judging by the way the cartridges are scattered in the box, they are obviously with a marriage.
      Zinc under the cartridges are not visible.
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 7 July 2014 14: 10
    +20
    "Putin's" position of many of our citizens.


    Wow, as soon as they are not called by some very smartly comrades and all-enforcers and couch troops and alarmists, etc. etc ....... gentlemen, optimists, please be softer and wiser to the opinion of our citizens, many of them are very worried about the death and suffering of people in NEW RUSSIA and there is no need to condemn them.

    It will take some time and life will put everything in its place.

    History repeats itself, friends. I appeal to those who today say: "Well, when will we send troops to Ukraine." Are you ready to join the army, leaving your wife and children at home?

    I thought a lot about the idea whether RUSSIA could have avoided participating in the first world war .....

    now we can say for sure no I couldn’t even if she very strongly rested with all her legs and hands ... anyway, she would be dragged into a world massacre.
    And now something similar happens and if we still have to fight involuntarily, we must be ready now for the worst development of the scenario ... such is la la vie.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 7 July 2014 14: 25
      +2
      Here, Alexei, I am ready to support you IN ALL paragraphs / paragraphs ... good hi
    2. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 7 July 2014 14: 27
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I thought a lot about the idea whether RUSSIA could have avoided participating in the first world war .....

      now we can say for sure no I couldn’t even if she very strongly rested with all her legs and hands ... anyway, she would be dragged into a world massacre.
      And now something similar happens and if we still have to fight involuntarily, we must be ready now for the worst development of the scenario ... such is la la vie.

      Really - a good idea. The fruit of true comparisons and a logical conclusion as a result, taking into account EVERYTHING happening in the world ...
  8. Hort
    Hort 7 July 2014 14: 11
    +1
    This article is not written out of panic.
    and the author himself is ready to go to war?
  9. MSA
    MSA 7 July 2014 14: 11
    +7
    Quote: portoc65
    Of course, troops may not be necessary to enter troops .. but weapons must be delivered .. There will be something to fight and without direct participation of Russia, militias will cope with the junta

    I agree, it is necessary to support, but it is too early to go to an open conflict.
  10. Giant thought
    Giant thought 7 July 2014 14: 13
    +3
    If New Russia falls, then after a while the Ukrainian army armed to the teeth with NATO weapons with a fascist Russophobic attitude will start a war against Russia, because those who came to power in Ukraine, as collective Hitler, consider the main goal to destroy Russia, and besides, if By this time Ukraine will join NATO, then it will be necessary to fight with a whole bloc, so look at what our current non-interference in the affairs of New Russia could result in.
    1. rrrd
      rrrd 7 July 2014 14: 17
      +1
      weed (NATSIKOV) must be cut to the root before he has yet spread the gadfly! Question: what are we waiting for !?
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 7 July 2014 14: 30
      +2
      Quote: Thought Giant
      and besides, if Ukraine joins NATO by this time,

      He will not join NATO, because he has unresolved territorial claims. In this case, upon joining NATO, they will have to use Article 5 and declare war on Russia.
    3. mazhnikof.Niko
      mazhnikof.Niko 7 July 2014 14: 30
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      and besides, if Ukraine joins NATO by this time, you’ll have to fight with a whole bloc, so look at what our current non-interference in the affairs of New Russia could result in


      Suppose Ukraine does not join NATO. Can you explain what will prevent NATO from entering the war on the side of Ukraine? What?!
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      2. Mitek
        Mitek 7 July 2014 14: 57
        +2
        Quote: mazhnikof.Niko
        Quote: Thought Giant
        and besides, if Ukraine joins NATO by this time, you’ll have to fight with a whole bloc, so look at what our current non-interference in the affairs of New Russia could result in


        Suppose Ukraine does not join NATO. Can you explain what will prevent NATO from entering the war on the side of Ukraine? What?!

        Probably, too, what prevents them from doing it now. ESSENTY THEY! And very justified. For there will be nobody and nothing left.
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        2. mazhnikof.Niko
          mazhnikof.Niko 7 July 2014 15: 14
          0
          Quote: Mitek
          For there will be nobody and nothing left.

          That's it! Then why, to think thoughtfully about the entry or NOT the entry of Ukraine into NATO! World War in our time means ONE - THE END OF LIFE ON THE PLANET!
      3. Philippov
        Philippov 7 July 2014 15: 15
        0
        Quote: mazhnikof.Niko
        Suppose Ukraine does not join NATO. Can you explain what will prevent NATO from entering the war on the side of Ukraine? What?!

        Sense of self-preservation
    4. mazhnikof.Niko
      mazhnikof.Niko 7 July 2014 14: 30
      0
      Quote: Thought Giant
      and besides, if Ukraine joins NATO by this time, you’ll have to fight with a whole bloc, so look at what our current non-interference in the affairs of New Russia could result in


      Suppose Ukraine does not join NATO. Can you explain what will prevent NATO from entering the war on the side of Ukraine? What?!
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    1. tomket
      tomket 7 July 2014 14: 17
      +5
      We are waiting for news on the Su-25 and T-72 captured with "minor" breakdowns. If that's what I hope for, we will soon see massive finds of equipment and aviation with "minor breakdowns" and "minor malfunctions." I would like to believe.
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 7 July 2014 14: 28
        +5
        Quote: tomket
        tomket (1) Today, 14:17 PM ↑ New
        We are waiting for news on the Su-25 and T-72 captured with "minor" breakdowns. If that's what I hope for, we will soon see massive finds of equipment and aviation with "minor breakdowns" and "minor malfunctions." I would like to believe.

        I went into the ratings and raised for a very correct understanding of the situation.
  12. evilrussian
    evilrussian 7 July 2014 14: 15
    +4
    We don’t need to openly interfere now, as 100 years ago. How it ended we know. We must fight secretly and cunningly, as they do in the West. Against them by their own methods.
  13. Russ69
    Russ69 7 July 2014 14: 16
    +7
    In how! The militia Su-25 captured. I hope the info will be confirmed and the pilot will be found.

    The Su-25 attack aircraft fell into the hands of the militia, after a small repair it will be ready for battle, said Defense Minister of the proclaimed Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR) Igor Plotnitsky on Monday. “One of the Ukrainian aircraft, the Su-25, was forced to enter an emergency landing and was captured by us. It needs easy repair, after which it will go into operation. The LPR army will finally have its own aviation, ”said Plotnitsky. He did not specify where exactly the plane was hijacked, nor did he say where he plans to take off after repair, ITAR-TASS reports.
    1. tomket
      tomket 7 July 2014 14: 24
      +2
      Interestingly, and in the forest belt there are abandoned ownerless KABs and NURSs to Dry ???
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 7 July 2014 14: 24
      +1
      Quote: Russ69
      I hope the info will be confirmed and the pilot will be found.

      And squeezed the airport in Lugansk? I know? And then in the morning they talked about active actions in the airport area. laughing
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 7 July 2014 14: 32
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And squeezed the airport in Lugansk? I know?

        It seems that there is not yet like in Donetsk ...
  14. Anti-ukra
    Anti-ukra 7 July 2014 14: 17
    +2
    http://jpgazeta.ru/uv2014/genshtab-ukrainy-my-nakanune-katastrofy/ мужики читаем все. написано нормально и мне думается так оно и есть . хреновые дела у хунты . долбодятлы руководят карательной операцией .
  15. Gardamir
    Gardamir 7 July 2014 14: 17
    +1
    Once upon a time there was one country. Divided and united again. but they explained to one part of the country that they were not Russians, but Ukrainians. Many more years passed before these Ukrainians wanted to live separately. Now in another part of the country they explain to the Russians that they are not Russians, but Russians. And should the Russians intervene in the affairs of some Ukrainians?
  16. DPZ
    DPZ 7 July 2014 14: 18
    0
    the question of readiness, as I understand it, is rhetorical. each of the participants on this site has already asked them more than once. why this topic? why produce empty topics, among them it is difficult to find.
  17. Roman1970
    Roman1970 7 July 2014 14: 18
    +9
    There is no need to "la-la" about Serbia ... It was just an excuse ... The war would have started anyway. As always, the British muddied the water ...
    1. Fuse
      Fuse 7 July 2014 14: 25
      +2
      That's right. The guns were loaded, the cockers cocked. By the way, it is wildly interesting what users would write in the summer of 1914, if the Internet at that time? smile
    2. sever.56
      sever.56 7 July 2014 14: 29
      +2
      At the expense of the British - I agree. They have long hated Russia. A few days before the assassination of Emperor Paul, the English press published a message about his death.
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      2. Roman1970
        Roman1970 7 July 2014 14: 36
        +1
        Wow, the British always wanted to rob other nations individually, Russia always bothered them! laughing Here is what Lenin wrote ...
        And for the conquest of Constantinople, and for the conquest of an increasingly large part of Asia, tsarism has been striving for centuries, systematically pursuing an appropriate policy and using all sorts of contradictions and clashes between the great powers. England was a longer, more stubborn and stronger opponent of these aspirations than Germany. From 1878, when Russian troops approached Constantinople, and the English fleet appeared in front of the Dardanelles with a threat to shoot the Russians as soon as they appeared in Tsargrad - until 1885, when Russia was close to the war with England because of the division of production in Central Asia (Afghanistan; the movement of Russian troops deep into Central Asia threatened British domination in India - and until 1902, when England entered into an alliance with Japan, preparing her war against Russia - for all this for a long time England was the strongest enemy of Russia's robber policy, because that Russia threatened to undermine the rule of England over a number of foreign peoples.
  18. subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 7 July 2014 14: 20
    +3
    I gave the author an article plus. So let the couch strategists reduce their warlike fervor. Russia does not need war: our country needs to be developed, to raise the level of well-being of our ordinary citizens. And all sane people have long understood that Russia will never surrender Novorossia. That's already own aviation appears from nowhere. The junta with the amers understand everything, but they can’t prove anything.
    1. Bayun
      Bayun 7 July 2014 14: 33
      +1
      I support. Haste is needed in a "blitzkrieg". Even Kiev, not to mention Novorossiya (unfortunately) is a tactic today. The enemy's lair across the oceans, it's just the beginning.
    2. Mrsh
      Mrsh 7 July 2014 15: 02
      -2
      Are you sane yourself? Do you write? People are being killed there! And who needs war? !!! You know a lot of these! ?? expert figs! They’re not going to be erased from the map tomorrow! But we should eat ice cream because of such clever people and sit in restaurants when the children have nothing there! They have no one except Russia! We must protect them!
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 7 July 2014 15: 15
        0
        Quote: Mrsh
        Are you sane yourself? Do you write? People are being killed there! And who needs war? !!! You know a lot of these! ?? expert figs! They’re not going to be erased from the map tomorrow! But we should eat ice cream because of such clever people and sit in restaurants when the children have nothing there! They have no one except Russia! We must protect them!

        Who is this, we? Speak for yourself, "defender." Have you put on a bulletproof vest, took a ticket to Donetsk?; That's it. And don't shout out provocative preparations here.
  19. Galim_66
    Galim_66 7 July 2014 14: 21
    +1
    Yes, that's how it is. Each soldier of the "Divanno-Beer Army of Russia" demands to send troops. But these people are unlikely to want to fight themselves, or that their children would fight. No one wants to give up European cars, clothing, leisure, wine, cheese, cognac, whiskey, American iPads, iPhones and other free market niches. Everyone wants the Rossiyushka to rattle her huge eggs, but he does not want to participate in the rattling, because half of the country sells imported equipment, a quarter of the country fixes it, and the other quarter sells raw materials for the decaying west. Not who does not want to quit his job and go to defend Russians not in Ukraine, because he has children and an apartment on a mortgage. No one wants to leave their home with a digital TV, high-speed Internet, a 52-inch Korean TV, a soft Spanish sofa, Italian parquet, Turkish tiles, French sanitary ware, Japanese air conditioning and German plastic windows. No one wants to fight, but everyone wants war! Apparently satiety has already faltered, everyone wants to go to the trenches.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 7 July 2014 14: 25
      +4
      Quote: Galim_66
      Yes, that's how it is. Each soldier of the "Divanno-Beer Army of Russia" demands to send troops.

      And where is it that everyone requires troops? Dear, you do not need to project your hallucinations on all forum participants.
      As far as judging by the comments, people are asking for help to the republics.
      1. Orik
        Orik 7 July 2014 17: 52
        0
        Quote: Russ69
        Quote: Galim_66
        Yes, that's how it is. Each soldier of the "Divanno-Beer Army of Russia" demands to send troops.

        And where is it that everyone requires troops? Dear, you do not need to project your hallucinations on all forum participants.
        As far as judging by the comments, people are asking for help to the republics.

        What they said on TV, they are projecting, however, propaganda wink , but it’s better that way, otherwise they will get their brains worse.
    2. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic 7 July 2014 14: 26
      +2
      Quote: Galim_66
      Each soldier of the "Divanno-Beer Army of Russia" demands to send troops.

      Not everyone, opinions were divided, about 50 to 50, according to the rating of comments you can see.
  20. Andrey82
    Andrey82 7 July 2014 14: 21
    +5
    How many times I appeal to those who talk about troop deployment - where is the recognition of the LPR and the DPR and the provision of assistance to them without the deployment of troops ?! Where?! Why are you moving away from this topic ?! Why do they scare us with a certain war if we have nuclear weapons (!). Or is it for a trade union?
    A pitiful attempt to somehow justify the betrayal of the Russians put a minus. It's time to call everything by its proper name. The Kremlin has done everything possible so that the anti-Russian project called "Ukraine" gains strength, sucks in gas and drinks Russian blood.
    Next - the clash and fierce mutual destruction of the Slavs in the interests of the Anglo-Saxon owners of those ruled by the Slavs.
    Oh yeah, now the US is going to fall apart in 48 hours. This is a "cunning plan" Putin has already "outplayed" everyone. Power cannot be used, acknowledged and helped - too (fear that the Ukraine project may collapse ahead of time, without gaining strength).
    Judge by their deeds ...
  21. Egen
    Egen 7 July 2014 14: 24
    +2
    I didn’t understand, the article calls for what - not to interfere in the war and it will not come to you - is there an analogy with 1 world for this? But since the causes of the war were in economic contradictions, the author confuses the reasons and the reason. It is ridiculous to think that in 14 Russia would be able to sit out.
  22. Horly
    Horly 7 July 2014 14: 24
    +2
    In order to start a war, there must be reasons and prerequisites, which by the summer of 1914 had developed in all the major countries of Europe - England, Germany, France and ... Russia. Although the latter was not ready for war, as evidenced by the mobilization that began after entering the war ... Now here is the answer to those who shout about the beginning of almost the third world ... Read open sources, how much time was spent preparing for the invasion of Iraq in 1991 and in 2003, to Afghanistan in 2001 .. If anyone thinks that only a political solution is needed to start a war, then this is very deeply mistaken. First you need to create an AMAZING grouping adequate to the enemy, ensure it (otherwise, as in Russia - by 1915 there were already not enough shells), organize supplies, etc. As you yourself understand, all this costs a lot of money and you need to remove it from somewhere ... Europe, although it is under the states, is clearly not ready to fly into the tube because of the interests of the states in Ukraine - try to explain the local 3,14-doraces that there is no dough at the gay parade - they will immediately become pacifists and organize processions in European capitals! So the author is trying to suck in the thought of some forces from the 5th column, which recently no longer know what to think of, so as not to lose their dough as a result of the help of New Russia!
  23. Vitalka
    Vitalka 7 July 2014 14: 27
    +2
    The author of the article is right. Ready to subscribe below. The entry of troops of the Russian Federation only by UN mandate. Strelkov has no people. Weapons are enough - a fellow Soviet ensign by the name of ... enko is still alive, although he is now in yellow-blue uniforms. Sell. But heavy weapons, alas ... We must get those who are now on the topic of my hut from the edge (although it burns down first!). Is it difficult at night to walk a couple of kilometers from your sofa and take the position of ukrovsk howitzers? Well then, you don’t have to ... Filter, clean and jump, jump, jump - they say not! And I will send my two sons to the front only when the Ukronatsists trample to the Voronezh province. Alas.
  24. MSA
    MSA 7 July 2014 14: 27
    0
    Quote: evilrussian
    We don’t need to openly interfere now, as 100 years ago. How it ended we know. We must fight secretly and cunningly, as they do in the West. Against them by their own methods.

    I agree and the people will be more whole, we will always be in time for an open conflict. The West has been smelling this chip for a long time, fighting with all the wrong hands, just supporting ...
  25. ed65b
    ed65b 7 July 2014 14: 29
    +2
    Only the Author forgot that if not for the actual betrayal of the Bolsheviks, Russia would end the war as a winner and not a loser. history can happen again, only now the Bolsheviks and the capitalists will not sell for a snuff of tobacco.
    1. Horly
      Horly 7 July 2014 14: 50
      +1
      It was not the Bolsheviks who actually betrayed - they completed the betrayal of the liberals — Guchkov, Lvov and the company — by the Brest Peace, removing Nicholas II from power and, accordingly, from the post of Commander-in-Chief! No wonder Strelkov recalled this. So do not twist and blame everything on the Bolsheviks!
  26. GHOST29RUS
    GHOST29RUS 7 July 2014 14: 29
    -1
    Quote: subbtin.725
    I gave the author an article plus. So let the couch strategists reduce their warlike fervor. Russia does not need war: our country needs to be developed, to raise the level of well-being of our ordinary citizens. And all sane people have long understood that Russia will never surrender Novorossia. That's already own aviation appears from nowhere. The junta with the amers understand everything, but they can’t prove anything.
    Agree
  27. kowalski
    kowalski 7 July 2014 14: 30
    +1
    "Su-25 militias got hold of"!
    Still, the last name, first name, patronymic of the captured pilot, last name, first name, patronymic of his wife, her place of work, last name, first name, patronymic of the parents where they live ... Not bloodthirsty. But maybe the rest of the "flyers" will ponder. All my life I believed that pilots were the elite of the armed forces. Apparently this does not apply to Ukraine ?!
    1. tomket
      tomket 7 July 2014 14: 34
      +2
      and if the flyer realized the mistakes of youth and reforged? ready to atone for your mistakes?
      1. Ustas
        Ustas 7 July 2014 14: 51
        +2
        Quote: kowalski
        “The Su-25 militias got hold of!” Still, the last name, first name, patronymic of the captured pilot, last name, first name, patronymic of his wife, her place of work, last name, first name, patronymic of his parents, where they live ... Not bloodthirsty. But maybe the rest of the "flyers" will ponder.

        Quote: tomket
        and if the flyer realized the mistakes of youth and reforged? ready to atone for your mistakes?

        In, in and I thought about that. And if this pilot on the side of the militia was going to fight?
  28. Mrsh
    Mrsh 7 July 2014 14: 30
    +2
    We are ready to go to fight against the Nazis, where our brothers Russia turns away from them, the author asks what it will be possible, we live in not the best ways, what are we afraid of in terms of finances! Many want to go to our war! When they entered Crimea, it means the Russians lived there, and now our brothers are dying! And what are we talking about ?! All are already leaving their Russians, no longer needed yes ??? There, children, women, are dying! Yesterday they should have already entered there! Where is Putin? !! The Crimea that only because of the ships and the fleet attached ??? Do not really leave them alone ?! No one will respect us! We will no longer respect ourselves !!! They need to arrange such a war so that their grandchildren remember Russia!
  29. Iline
    Iline 7 July 2014 14: 33
    0
    Are you ready to join the army, leaving your wife and children at home?

    No matter how bitterly aware of this, but let's put our hand on the heart. I’m not sure that many of today's youth will go to war even for Russia. It’s better to be smart at the computer.
  30. Russ69
    Russ69 7 July 2014 14: 34
    +1
    07.07.14. Message from the militia.

    "The first span of the bridge over the Seversky Donets river was blown up on the Krasny Liman-Artyomovsk-Gorlovka road near the village of Zakotnoye, Krasnolimansky region. As a result of the explosion, the span structure was completely destroyed, the movement of dill was very difficult."
  31. Mrsh
    Mrsh 7 July 2014 14: 36
    +2
    You’re wrong, many will go! During the war in South Ossetia, all the regions were there, they were volunteers. He was there who saw these guys! We have a lot of worthy youth! We can be proud of!
    1. Andrey82
      Andrey82 7 July 2014 14: 42
      +1
      This scares those who settled in the Kremlin. The people who realized themselves not as slaves, not cattle, but as the arbiter of their fate are more dangerous for them than NATO, distant Bandera people who are not killing their children and parents at all.
  32. ed65b
    ed65b 7 July 2014 14: 38
    +1
    And we are all waiting, here there will be tanks, aviation artillery in sufficient quantities, eyes are looking at the horizon for clouds of dust from the tanks and the whistle of air cut by the mighty wings of the SU and MIG squadrons. Artillery volleys and strips of flying shells of the City and Tornado, well, did they appear? And it will not appear, from nowhere. But then there were hundreds of tanks, guns, cities and self-propelled guns, tens of thousands of soldiers at the Dill. The fact that the militia will be defeated is only a matter of time. The paramilitary forces will not be able to fight the Army of all Ukraine. No resources and support. there is empty chatter. And Solovyov is not the authority that he said, we will not support it, but will support it, in a day it will say that it was correctly leaked and not supported, as it turned out, this is Putin’s cunning plan. All later, later, someday. Another that trick.
  33. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 7 July 2014 14: 39
    +1
    Lugansk militias captured the Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian armed forces, Defense Minister of the Lugansk People’s Republic (LNR) Igor Plotnitsky told LifeNews.
    13: 28 / 07.07.2014
    "Minister of Defense of the LPR: The militia got a Su-25"
    According to Igor Plotnitsky, the captured Ukrainian Air Force attack aircraft is now under repair, but will soon go into service with the Donbass army.
    "The Su-25 of the Ukrainian armed forces was captured after it made an emergency landing. We will soon have our own aircraft," the minister said.

    At last
  34. Russ69
    Russ69 7 July 2014 14: 39
    +3
    "Militias", about the withdrawal from Slavyansk ... It feels like a setup from Kurginyan, again against Strelkov, is being insolently driven.
    Maybe this Kurginyanchik should be given to the tribunal? He’s lousy, there muddies the water worse than all the Akhmetovsky proteges ...
    1. Orik
      Orik 7 July 2014 17: 55
      0
      SEC without grandmas will not tear the ass off the chair, the main question is who paid. It’s a pity that Strelkov didn’t take it in Donetsk.
    2. Orik
      Orik 7 July 2014 19: 21
      0
      But it’s very good about the activities of the SEC.
      War is dirt, blood and betrayal. No need to whitewash anyone. However, the actions of the visiting provocateur are too transparent - he is not interested in how and what really happened. His task is to explain why the leadership of Russia refused her words. In general, there is no other way than to turn attention. People's bewilderment is too great a strange dissonance between the picture of massacres and the complacent kind of leadership, so as not to begin to respond to it.

      The personality of the provocateur was not chosen by chance - possessing a not very large, but extremely aggressive crowd of thoughtless followers, he is able to clog a significant part of the information space with white noise. According to the principle - spoons were found, but the sediment remained.
  35. Dave36
    Dave36 7 July 2014 14: 40
    0
    Russia is delaying troop entry as much as possible. The decision was made .. to draw us into the war .. no, not with Ukraine ..... with the whole world .. but Europe is unlikely to want to send soldiers for slaughter .. in the war we are scary ..
    Example .. yesterday, in my opinion, a Cossack died .. threw himself under a tank with a grenade .. courage of the greatest test ..
    To alarmists ... a war ?? So Russia is fighting constantly, do not piss .. yes, and no one will ask for your desire. The first Chechen, the second showed that we have a lot of heroes, have not gone extinct yet ..
    Constant snot .. I don’t want, I won’t, I’m not a coward .. but today I looked at the shelling of Lugansk .. they would say that it was Belgorod .. I wouldn’t find any differences ...
    And the last ... believe our leader ... doesn’t introduce ... that means no time ... I have the honor !!
    1. Andrey82
      Andrey82 7 July 2014 15: 02
      0
      With the whole world? What do you smoke there, if not a secret ?!
  36. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 7 July 2014 14: 41
    0
    if not for the actual betrayal of the Bolsheviks, Russia would have ended the war as a winner

    Russia was-like Ukraine today-every creature in a pair! If the Bolsheviks had not stopped the war-Russia, maybe there would have been no more!
  37. mamont5
    mamont5 7 July 2014 14: 42
    +1
    I apologize for being off topic, but:

    "The DPRK has proposed to unite Korea on the basis of a federation.

    The North Korean government has proposed that South Korea reconcile and unite on the principles of a federation or confederation. This is stated in a statement issued today by the Central Telegraph Agency of Korea to the government.

    "There is a growing demand for the reunification of Korea on the principles of federation, two parts with different social systems and ideologies," the statement said. "The North and South must, on the basis of federation and confederation, make common efforts to unite and actively promote prosperity and common interests," the DPRK government said.
    http://politobzor.net/show-27688-kndr-predlozhila-obedinit-koreyu-na-osnove-fede
    racii.html
  38. vostok1982
    vostok1982 7 July 2014 14: 42
    +4
    In 1914 they did what they were supposed to do. World war would have begun anyway. Then Russia chose war, not shame, and then only war. What do we see in the end? England and France, which skillfully destroyed all their competitors on the continent - Germany, Austria-Hungary, Turkey, Russia - became second-class powers. And Russia, which was supposed to be divided and destroyed, became the Soviet Union, one of two superpowers.
    "Stand for the truth to the end and the Lord will fight for you," the Bible says.
    Russia has a choice - either to do as it should, without regard to fear and greed, or to do what is more profitable. In the first case, to lose in the short term, but to win in the end, in the second - to make your way to the dustbin of history, even after some savings and apparent benefits.
  39. kay4yk
    kay4yk 7 July 2014 14: 48
    0
    Well, in principle, it is: before shouting about the introduction of troops, one must ask oneself - are you ready to go to war for WHAT?
  40. ilya_82
    ilya_82 7 July 2014 14: 48
    +2
    I explain for the thousandth time - my address for the military commissariat is known, declare mobilization, I’ll go to fight. suspend loans and mortgages. This is very convenient - go fight, this second trend has already gotten. Hatskrayniki are those who look at the dead people on TV and say, all hurt, everything is according to plan. Behind every soldier should be the power of the state. There should come a summons, exercises, combat coordination of my unit, the issuance of weapons and ammunition, and the setting of the task. and writing - are you ready to go, get up off the couch and stuff - this is nonsense. Regarding the analogies with the First World War:
    Those who, in a fit of patriotism, went to fight did not kill their sovereign, they killed him, those who wanted the defeat of Russia at the beginning of the war (the war should develop from imperialist to world revolution. The defeat of the Republic of Ingushetia in the war was not applicable)
    There are also analogies with the Second World War, when they aggressively coaxed the aggressor and eventually got what they got. In 41, we also thought that we were not ready for war, we avoided it in every way. did not shoot down enemy planes, did not succumb to provocations
  41. Mrsh
    Mrsh 7 July 2014 14: 48
    +1
    If Russia is destined to fight the whole world, let it be so, and be afraid of everyone who says what it thinks this is nonsense, we are not jackals to pay attention to such things! If we believe that we are a great country, we must prove it all against us! We should help our brothers anyway! We must protect them !!! That's why we and Russia! They need our help! And we must do everything to punish the junta for crimes!
  42. novel68rus
    novel68rus 7 July 2014 14: 49
    +2
    and no one wants to wage a world war, but it’s also impossible to sit and wait for people to be killed .. I wonder when the Russian population in the borderland will die from shelling, will we also send notes to them with concerns? disgustingly simple .. Israel is constantly delivering air strikes in response to every casam .. and we will observe otherwise the states will acquire us as aggressors ... they will still find a reason not today so tomorrow .. they can do it all after all ..
  43. galinka
    galinka 7 July 2014 14: 51
    0
    Quote: Himalayan
    Repost

    UPD: VERY IMPORTANT! Verified information from the source from the place. In the outskirts of Slavyansk, where previously there were positions of junta troops, construction equipment appeared. Excavation work is underway, the territory is guarded, posts from nazgad are placed around the perimeter, patrolling is ongoing; Apparently they open their own burial grounds, where they previously dug up conscripts who refused to shoot civilians and their punishers.
    This is especially correlated with other information received from Kiev - there is evidence that the Ukrainian propagandists are going to mount a report in which they tell about the "atrocities" of the militia, they say, they shot civilians. Considering that there are already the first killed among the civilian population after the entry of dill into Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, a provocation can take place literally today or tomorrow. A source from Kiev said the report was scheduled for tomorrow. Please spread this situation on social media as much as possible to prevent this heinous provocation.


    http://arbaletfire.livejournal.com/215655.html
  44. Password
    Password 7 July 2014 14: 58
    0
    There would be political will! And there may be different ways to help. One thing is clear, you can successfully resist the ukroarmiya if you have the necessary heavy weapons - tanks, planes, etc. And why not ukropskuyu equipment from the Crimea is not brought into a combat-ready state and arm the militias with it? And on the border of those who like to shoot on Russian territory, put them in their place, keeping the "humanitarian" corridors.
  45. Avis24
    Avis24 7 July 2014 14: 59
    0
    One Su-25 all win? They will calculate where he (the Americans will prompt) and cover. And even if you succeed in raising it, then the pilot needs experienced, good aviation ammunition, a worthy goal (accumulation of equipment without camouflage and cover) and good guidance on the target. And they are unlikely to let him fly more than two times.
    1. Roshchin
      Roshchin 7 July 2014 15: 21
      +1
      How much is needed and flies
  46. Roshchin
    Roshchin 7 July 2014 15: 05
    +2
    Another "well-wisher writer". Proposes to abandon the defense of the Russians of the South-East. This will supposedly keep peace and tranquility along the borders of Russia. Complete delirium, if not worse. And about joining the army, in case of need, there will be mobilization and all who are supposed to join and will fight, defending their country where they are ordered. I hope the author too.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      31 July 2014 18: 26
      0
      Quote: Grove
      Another "well-wisher writer". Proposes to abandon the defense of the Russians of the South-East. This will supposedly keep peace and tranquility along the borders of Russia. Complete delirium, if not worse. And about joining the army, in case of need, there will be mobilization and all who are supposed to join and will fight, defending their country where they are ordered. I hope the author too.

      Also. I did not offer to give up protection. It’s just that many after the Crimea developed a certain euphoria, such as how simple it is. And the article was designed to sober up someone from chants, to think about the consequences for someone.
  47. draft
    draft 7 July 2014 15: 08
    +4
    Quote: Mrsh
    You’re wrong, many will go! During the war in South Ossetia, all the regions were there, they were volunteers. He was there who saw these guys! We have a lot of worthy youth! We can be proud of!

    And there is. I remember being at the Beslan airport for work. They loaded the wounded soldiers into the medical "pill", I had no money in my pocket and I asked the chief for 500 rubles and ran to buy ice cream. I run up to the car, it has already started, stopped.
    I open the door and give the guys ice cream, they are smiling embarrassedly, and on the floor in the car is a guy (I think an officer), probably heavy, and his eyes are blurred by pain, and his eyes are bright bright blue ... he leaned forward towards me, not realizing what is happening ...
    No, our youth is worthy, the genetic memory is good!
    For some reason, I have no doubt, many who are worried about the brothers in the southeast of Ukraine are ready to go there themselves.
  48. Alexan
    Alexan 7 July 2014 15: 44
    +1
    says: "Well, when will we bring troops to Ukraine"

    This is not about the introduction of troops, but about effective military-technical and financial assistance. If they feel it, then a strictly limited number of persons.
    A little off topic: I live in Crimea. Many refugees came to us. I can give one monstrous example: Priozerka, a boarding house near Evpatoria. There are children from Slavyansk, there is even a 6-month-old. They are naked, hungry, not provided with financing. We live a hundred kilometers, collect food, diapers, money, but whoever takes everything to Priozerka returns with tears. Nobody really does even deal with refugees. This is not a panic, but a statement of fact. Thoughts now are not about patriotism, but to find families for children who, perhaps, have no parents now.
  49. pin head
    pin head 7 July 2014 16: 48
    0
    unequivocally need to respond to shelling of Russian territory
  50. nachprod 92
    nachprod 92 7 July 2014 17: 04
    -2
    article minus, the author is not a tracker and not a hunter.