Reports of the entry of Ukrainian armored vehicles in Slavyansk

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TV channel LifeNews with reference to eyewitnesses reports that the units of the Ukrainian security forces entered the suburb of Slavyansk-Nikolaevka. It was the last settlement held by the militias and allowing Slavyansk to have a connection with the outside world, as the road section controlled by the militias passed through Nikolaevka.
Сообщения о вхождении украинской бронетехники в Славянск

One of the militia commanders, who works as Motorola, told LifeNews that the city includes Ukrainian Tanks and armored personnel carriers. Motorola claims that the local population is experiencing a real shock from what is happening. The militia adds that the rumors of his injury and death, which went through a number of media outlets, have nothing to do with reality.
A local resident reports that Ukrainian aviation circling the city, delivering random blows to the residential sector. In the city, after the impact of the artillery of the punitive detachments, several multi-storey buildings were destroyed, under the rubble of which there are people who are simply no one to help.
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    1. +103
      3 July 2014 16: 30
      It is necessary to send troops! Yes, and to hell with them, with the sanctions, survive! But people die every day!
      1. +127
        3 July 2014 16: 32
        It is necessary to send troops! Yes, and to hell with them, with the sanctions, survive! But people die every day!

        We will survive, but the oligarchs will not survive ... Well, how much dough is lost!
        1. portoc65
          +80
          3 July 2014 16: 49
          Dill is now playing for those who stayed .. for those who could not leave Slavyansk .. Massacre will begin if someone else survives after the city battles. Where is the line through which dill should cross?. When the Georgians fired at Shinval-Russia made a decision and stopped the slaughter ... Now the scenario is much more tragic. The extermination of Russians in Ukraine .. What is happening? What is the difference with Ossetia. Why are we all allowing it ... Let us annihilate our people ... What for then, Russia has a strong army ... so that only people can walk in parades? Why is it like that? Why
          1. +12
            3 July 2014 16: 56
            03.07.2014/15/42, XNUMX:XNUMX (Moscow time) Message from I.I. Strelkov

            "Today, more than 20 RPG-18s did not work for us ... stock from Ukrainian warehouses ... As a result, the enemy did not lose a single armored unit at the entrance to Nikolaevka. They just laughed at our soldiers ... They entered the city with one armor - no infantry at all ... As if they know that we have nothing to shoot with ... "Machete" - the commander of the garrison is seriously wounded. "

            (About Motorola) "While he remained in position. But the garrison of Nikolaevka has already been cut off."
            1. +13
              3 July 2014 18: 20
              SABOTAGE

              This is "with greetings" from Downnetska Pushilins. The supplies were from there. The work of Khodakovsky's colleagues. During the seizure of the Maryanovo border crossing, the armored personnel carriers stalled from the militia and the existing MANPADS did not work. These MANPADS, like the armored personnel carriers, were removed by the Ukrop border guards, as an example of Russian weapons
            2. +1
              4 July 2014 01: 24
              Regarding the RPG-18 that did not work, it would be very necessary to clarify, careless storage or tricks of the junta gunsmiths, very much by the way, the US owners are very fond of "wooden toys"
          2. Snipe
            +14
            3 July 2014 16: 57
            It seems that they abandoned their own in Slavyansk ...
            1. +10
              3 July 2014 19: 25
              Igor Strelkov: Nikolaevka is destroyed by artillery fire and Tornadoes, until 12 of July we will not last
              Igor Strelkov: Nikolaevka is destroyed by artillery fire and Tornadoes, until 12 of July we will not last | Russian spring

              In 17: 43 (Kiev), 18: 43 (Moscow), the commander of the militia of Slavyansk and the Minister of Defense of the Donetsk Republic Igor Strelkov announced that the enemy continues to destroy Nikolaevka with the help of artillery and multiple launch rocket systems ... Some residential buildings were destroyed to the ground, the plant burns, they destroy the Nikolaev TPP ...

              Ukrainians continue to smash the Nikolaev TPP. The plant is on. In Nikolaevka, under the fire of "Tornadoes", some five-story buildings are destroyed to the foundation - they simply "formed". The city is surrounded by armored vehicles in height and for any movement “below” (a town in a lowland near a river), artillery that destroys fire opens.

              Igor Ivanovich Strelkov commented on the information that the junta was almost ready to make concessions.

              This is a dangerous illusion. They will not stop at Slavyansk. On the contrary, as soon as they take it, they will begin the offensive with a vengeance. Their shells were prepared months in advance, their morale was high. They are really going to end the campaign by July 12. Completely. That is, go to the border and clean the main cities.

              Today is only the 3 number. Until 12, we certainly will not hold out. Do not forget that there is a DECLINE fighting. For him, taking the enemy of Slavyansk will be a severe moral blow.
          3. Andrey82
            +40
            3 July 2014 16: 59
            What for then do we need a condom that does not protect Russians abroad only in words?
            1. +4
              3 July 2014 17: 33
              Scribble hysterics! You are the traitors and the fifth column!
              When mobilizing, the principle of unity of command is the most important. The Commander-in-Chief, we have one and the other. That should obey him.
              And one more question. In 41, the Germans reached Moscow. Does Stalin have trouble with eggs, in your opinion? Or we have double standards here.
              1. +37
                3 July 2014 17: 53
                Well, Stalin didn’t have friends of Chubais and Serdyukov, he didn’t, and there was much more faith in him.
                1. -5
                  3 July 2014 18: 10
                  Quote: Egorchik
                  Well, Stalin didn’t have friends of Chubais and Serdyukov, he didn’t, and there was much more faith in him.

                  Yeah, Tymoshenko was in his friends, he did the business with his leadership on the western, then on the south-western fronts, Zhukov corrected everything after him
                  1. paul1992
                    +4
                    3 July 2014 19: 16
                    Quote: saag
                    Quote: Egorchik
                    Well, Stalin didn’t have friends of Chubais and Serdyukov, he didn’t, and there was much more faith in him.

                    Yeah, Tymoshenko was in his friends, he did the business with his leadership on the western, then on the south-western fronts, Zhukov corrected everything after him

                    here and minus here for the truth. although, probably, the minusculers do not know that this **** disbanded the tank corps, and a number of officers (pilots) stripped of their ranks and stuffed them into the barracks, and that’s all on the eve of the war ...

                    ps you don’t have to hysteria, either you observe the subordination (you accept and obey the instructions of the supreme, or you violate the oath (if you gave it, in general ...), and if you do not understand the meaning of Putin’s orders / actions, then this is certainly not the president’s problem
                    1. +7
                      4 July 2014 04: 10
                      And I, for example, gave the oath to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of a great country. And I did not take exams in the Unified State Exam. Stalin and the people provided the army before the war to everyone. And the pilots were released by sergeants and did not deprive them of their ranks, and tank corps are also not true. It is not correct to compare Stalin with Putin as well as a great country with present-day Russia. About the oath violation Which of the present generals has fulfilled the oath to the Soviet people and prevented the Yeltsin coup? Who would like to know? My country’s territory is being attacked by punishers from Ukraine, where is the reaction of the supreme commander? How long is Gazprom’s free public supply of gas to the junta at our expense, by the way. If you don’t, it’s not ours that will return to Russia’s citizens. in the jail and there are no Sperdyuk?
                    2. +2
                      4 July 2014 04: 10
                      And I, for example, gave the oath to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of a great country. And I did not take exams in the Unified State Exam. Stalin and the people provided the army before the war to everyone. And the pilots were released by sergeants and did not deprive them of their ranks, and tank corps are also not true. It is not correct to compare Stalin with Putin as well as a great country with present-day Russia. About the oath violation Which of the present generals has fulfilled the oath to the Soviet people and prevented the Yeltsin coup? Who would like to know? My country’s territory is being attacked by punishers from Ukraine, where is the reaction of the supreme commander? How long is Gazprom’s free public supply of gas to the junta at our expense, by the way. If you don’t, it’s not ours that will return to Russia’s citizens. in the jail and there are no Sperdyuk?
                  2. +1
                    4 July 2014 03: 40
                    What is one victory operation Zhukov?
                    1. paul1992
                      +1
                      4 July 2014 09: 49
                      Quote: saigon
                      What is one victory operation Zhukov?

                      Will Berlin arrange?
                  3. +1
                    4 July 2014 03: 40
                    What is one victory operation Zhukov?
                2. Evgeniy.
                  +8
                  3 July 2014 19: 02
                  All taxi drivers and the unemployed are versed in politics.
                  1. +2
                    4 July 2014 00: 38
                    All taxi drivers and the unemployed are versed in politics.

                    ... and the vast majority did not take the Oath!
              2. +5
                3 July 2014 18: 06
                Right and let the minuses do not bother you.
              3. -2
                3 July 2014 18: 09
                Yeah ... the role of Stalin in preparing the army for war is self-conceit that cost the people that we were in Moscow, he corrected his mistakes at the cost of his life .... he did a lot to win after that, but there were mistakes .... So now you want the same mistakes ???
                1. sleepy
                  +3
                  4 July 2014 01: 10
                  Quote: vo.dum
                  "Yeah ... Stalin's role in preparing the army for war is conceit, which cost the people that we were near Moscow - it was his mistakes that the people corrected at the cost of their lives ... he did a lot to win after that, but there were mistakes .. ...
                  So you want the same mistakes now ??? "


                  What errors of I. Stalin are we talking about?
                  What didn’t see the anti-Soviet activity of N. Khrushchev?

                  It was Khrushchev who in his report at the Twentieth Party Congress blamed
                  Stalin is that he failed to prepare the country for war,
                  to repulse the aggressor.

                  Khrushchev assured the congress delegates that there was “both time and opportunity ... to prepare the country well for defense”, that “our industry was at such a level of development that it was able to fully provide the Soviet Army with everything necessary.” But the mobilization of "industry was not carried out in a timely manner. And from the very first days of the war it turned out that our army was poorly armed, that we did not have enough artillery, tanks and aircraft to repulse the enemy. Soviet science and technology before the war gave excellent examples of tanks and artillery. But the mass production of all this has not been established ... ".

                  Lies and slander against I.V. Stalin and the Stalinist era of the Soviet era were, in essence, a mockery of communist ideals, of the history of Soviet socialist society. The anti-Stalinist campaign unleashed by Khrushchev was not only similar to the anti-communist
                  and Trotskyist ideas, but it also opened a real world anti-communist campaign against the Soviet Union and the CPSU, against the world communist and national liberation movement.

                  Even such an ardent hater of the Soviet Union and socialism as Churchill, on the day of the celebration of his 90th birthday in 1964 in the British Parliament, in response to a toast in his honor as an unrivaled specialist in causing damage to Soviet Russia, said: “Unfortunately, now there is a person who has damaged the country of the Soviets
                  a thousand times bigger than me. This is N. S. Khrushchev. So pat him!
                  "".
                  http://greatstalin.ru/articlesww2.aspx?xdoc=BC%2fOJUFyuPs3e8Qd%2fnNRtg%3d%3d
                  1. sleepy
                    +1
                    4 July 2014 01: 18
                    Quote: vo.dum
                    "Yeah ... Stalin's role in preparing the army for war is conceit, which cost the people that we were near Moscow - it was his mistakes that the people corrected at the cost of their lives ... he did a lot to win after that, but there were mistakes .. ...
                    So you want the same mistakes now ??? "


                    The task of ensuring the security of the northwestern borders of the state was solved in the winter war with Finland in 1939-1940. The length of the border with Finland was more than a thousand kilometers. From Leningrad, it passed only 32 km.
                    In fact, the second capital of the country, besides a powerful center of the defense industry, was in the zone of enemy artillery fire. The sea approaches to Leningrad were not protected either.
                    And in the event of the capture of Leningrad there could well have created an alternative government, which would become the basis for starting a civil war. Murmansk, our northern ice-free port, and the railway connecting it with the central regions of the country were located dangerously close to the border.
                    These are facts that could not be ignored in the face of the growing threat of war. The aphorism has a truly deep meaning: "Geography is the fate of the people."
                    The Soviet government proposed to resolve peacefully the issues of relations between the USSR and Finland. In talks with the Finns, Stalin said: “We do not demand and take, but offer ... Since Leningrad cannot be moved, we ask that the border pass at a distance of 70 kilometers from Leningrad ... We ask for 2700 sq. M. km and offer in return more than 5500 square meters. km. " Defending the “window to Europe” cut through by Peter the Great, he declared: “We cannot do anything with geography, just as you cannot change it” (Winter War 1939 - 1940. Book 1. Political history. M., 1998 p. 125, 371).
                    However, the Finnish government, supported by Germany and encouraged by England and France, rejected a peaceful solution to the issues that arose. During the winter war of 1939 - 1940, the Red Army broke through the powerful Mannerheim line, which was modernly fortified and advanced westward from 25 to 200 km. Three and a half months after the outbreak of the war, the Finnish army, assisted by the Western powers, was defeated. According to the signed peace treaty, Finland ceded part of its territory, ensuring the security of Leningrad and the northwestern border of the USSR. And most importantly, the plans of the leading capitalist countries were frustrated to turn the Soviet-Finnish war into a world war against the Soviet Union.
                    The allegations that this war showed the weakness of the Red Army proved to be untenable. It is worth recalling that shortly before the Soviet-Finnish war, the Red Army won brilliant victories over Japanese samurai in the area of ​​Lake Hassan and the Khalkhin-Gol River.
                    http://greatstalin.ru/articlesww2.aspx?xdoc=BC%2fOJUFyuPs3e8Qd%2fnNRtg%3d%3d
              4. Andrey82
                +31
                3 July 2014 18: 16
                Yes, I am a traitor. This I ordered to transfer tanks and other ukram equipment from the Crimea.
                It was I who delayed the shut-off of the valve on the damn gas pipe, giving the Ukram the opportunity to pump it for many months into the reserve and sell the surplus to receive funds for the extermination of the Russians. And I also threw our troops back and forth, and finally, by order of the owners from Fashington, I took them outside the Urals.
                I did it all.
              5. VAF
                VAF
                +6
                3 July 2014 18: 24
                Quote: maxvik
                . The Commander-in-Chief, we have one and the other. That should obey him.


                It is which "kind" of troops with "roads" confuses lol
              6. +9
                3 July 2014 18: 35
                Quote: maxvik
                Scribble hysterics! You are the traitors and the fifth column!
                When mobilizing, the principle of unity of command is the most important. The Commander-in-Chief, we have one and the other. That should obey him.
                And one more question. In 41, the Germans reached Moscow. Does Stalin have trouble with eggs, in your opinion? Or we have double standards here.

                Stalin did not express regret and did not call for peace talks, and also did not call for militias to lay down their arms. The Commander-in-Chief is not a king who, from God, can be re-elected.
                1. 0
                  3 July 2014 19: 49
                  Quote: tomket
                  Stalin did not express regret and did not call for peace talks

                  Yah! And the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact?))
                  1. sleepy
                    +1
                    4 July 2014 01: 28
                    Quote: STERKH
                    "Yes, well! And the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact?))"



                    “In the conditions when the anti-Soviet coalition had been forming for twenty years, a non-aggression pact with Germany was concluded in August 1939.
                    The pact provided our country with two more years to prepare for the repulse of fascist aggression. The conclusion of a treaty of neutrality with Japan in 1941 saved the USSR from Japanese aggression, and ultimately from a war on two fronts. That is why the conclusion of these two international treaties was the highest achievement of Stalin's foreign policy strategy and Soviet diplomacy.

                    Of course, the Soviet leadership had no illusions about the true essence of the aggressive policy of fascist Germany. The evidence of the head of the legal department of the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Gaus, was present at the Soviet-German talks. He wrote that Stalin, who appeared during the negotiations between Molotov and Ribbentrop, answered the question of the latter, said: “There can be no neutrality on our part, until you yourself stop making aggressive plans for the USSR».
                    Then he clarified: “We do not forget that your ultimate goal is to attack us”

                    Not only the struggle to extend the peaceful respite, but also the desire to provide for the fundamental geopolitical needs of the Soviet Union was pursued by Stalin in 1939 at the conclusion of a non-aggression treaty with Germany.
                    The treaty ensured our country's access to the external borders conquered by previous generations and pushed the western border away from its most important political and economic centers. "
                    http://greatstalin.ru/articlesww2.aspx?xdoc=BC%2fOJUFyuPs3e8Qd%2fnNRtg%3d%3d
                2. Associate Professor
                  +1
                  3 July 2014 20: 29
                  Quote: tomket
                  Stalin did not express regret and did not call for peace talks, and also did not call for militias to lay down their arms. The Commander-in-Chief is not a king who, from God, can be re-elected.

                  What stupid comparisons? Putin is not the president of Ukraine or New Russia. And Stalin was the leader of the USSR, which was attacked. Who calls the militia to lay down their arms? Why come up with so brazenly?
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              8. +11
                3 July 2014 18: 46
                Stalin also has trouble with eggs, in your opinion

                And you do not confuse Stalin and this prostitution.
              9. Valexav
                +6
                3 July 2014 19: 39
                What do you compare the power of Germany of the 41st with lousy Ukra? Well, if we cannot calm her down, then where are we to the exploits of grandfathers and great-grandfathers.
                1. 0
                  3 July 2014 22: 33
                  Quote: ValexAV
                  What do you compare the power of Germany of the 41st with lousy Ukra?


                  Lousy Ukraine is only an excuse, but it’s necessary to fight not only with it. Think about it at your leisure.
              10. -1
                3 July 2014 21: 25
                I agree completely. Even the same with all (the majority) here I.I. Strelkov said not so long ago "go now against the Supreme = sabotage and betrayal of the Fatherland." But local couch hysterics are much better versed in geopolitics ...
              11. 0
                3 July 2014 22: 04
                And by the way, where did the date of July 12 come from?
                As far as I understand, no one except Strelkov mentioned this number?

                It seems that Strelkov wants to announce the date with this message.

                So, July 12th.
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            3. 0
              3 July 2014 17: 53
              Quote: Andrey82
              prezik

              Boy, drink some water and cool down. And do not say nasty things about the head of state.
              1. +12
                3 July 2014 18: 11
                I don’t care ... do you have a cult ??? - he is the president and it is necessary to criticize him with the same style icon for me ...
                1. VAF
                  VAF
                  +15
                  3 July 2014 18: 21
                  Quote: vo.dum
                  I don’t care ... do you have a cult ??? - he is the president and it is necessary to criticize him with the same style icon for me ...


                  In the "light" of the newly published Laws it is impossible to criticize. this is an undermining of statehood, "authority" (although how can one undermine what a priori does not exist lol ) etc.
                  And you can only politely and very quietly disagree with his decisions, and then ... the same can be crippled wassat
                  So any comment should be started with the phrase .. "Glory ......", and then under this "glory" write a comment wassat +! drinks
                  1. 0
                    3 July 2014 22: 54
                    Quote: vaf
                    although how can you undermine what a priori is not

                    Judging by your constant statements that in Russia there is nothing worthwhile, helicopters without missiles, and if there is something they don’t fly, etc. ... and immediately send troops and break everyone ..., yes, it’s not possible for a little man to understand the contradictory nature of his nonsense and all the more so the fact that one of the two is still stupid ... Well, what can I say, the diagnosis is typical and the consequences of such a massive ideotism are in front of everyone’s eyes, not in front of yours, apparently from such a contingent they crawled into the ass for a long time finally and irrevocably.
                    ZY Judging by the number of emoticons you use idioticly not the topic of emoticons, you are just a clown, obviously not a child ... and not funny.
                2. 0
                  3 July 2014 21: 56
                  Quote: vo.dum
                  I don’t care ... do you have a cult ??? - he is the president and it is necessary to criticize him with the same style icon for me ...

                  criticism and insults are slightly different things, so that flies are separate from cutlets
              2. Andrey82
                +5
                3 July 2014 19: 17
                For me, uncle (I won’t speak for others) Putin is not the head of state. It is generally still necessary to find out in the interests of which state it works. Although everything is clear here.
                1. Associate Professor
                  0
                  3 July 2014 20: 35
                  Quote: Andrey82
                  For me, uncle (I won’t speak for others) Putin is not the head of state. It is generally still necessary to find out in the interests of which state it works. Although everything is clear here.

                  It works in the interests of Russia, and therefore does not engage in war openly. Nicholas 2 succumbed to a provocation in Serbia. as a result, Russia and Nicholas 2 did not. Here you need to be guided not by emotions, but by cold calculation. What Putin is doing. He considers it necessary to send troops - will introduce, will not consider - will not enter. This is his prerogative.
                  1. Andrey82
                    +2
                    3 July 2014 22: 40
                    What is it all about the deployment of troops and only about him ?! So much has been said about other methods that you yourself must know them by heart. But none of this exists, only slurred muttering and concern.
                  2. +1
                    4 July 2014 10: 29
                    Judging by the minus of quite adequate comments, the site "VO" has become popular enough to be "paid attention" to. wink
                    So a little more and it will be possible to read only "minus" comments.
                2. +2
                  3 July 2014 22: 03
                  What is clear for you? Do you have any information? You are quick to judge, but who is he? Hooray patriot with the intellect of jellyfish? From people like you, in difficult times for the country, more harm than good. Sorry for the harshness.
            4. +4
              3 July 2014 20: 07
              I don’t understand Putin, he has already crossed the red line, saying that he will protect the Russians ... Where is the military help? Does he repeat the mistakes of Stalin?
              1. Stalker
                -1
                3 July 2014 20: 48
                I don’t understand Putin, he has already crossed the red line, saying that he will protect the Russians ... Where is the military help? Does he repeat the mistakes of Stalin?

                The war will come to Russia, and not to Kazakhstan !!! Our sons will die, not yours !!!. You are simply allies - as long as Russia is strong and profitable for your rulers - THIS POLICY !!! If I'm wrong, why did you put up with the base of amers and their mockery of compatriots ?? Russia endured gaining strength, delaying a threat to itself until rearmament. PAYING YOUR CUTTING DARK MONEY.
                And here is how Kazakhs at the call of their hearts will respond to hostilities in an attack on Russia, I guess, for the better, for Kazakhstan !!!! negative
                1. +3
                  3 July 2014 20: 59
                  Stalker, can you read? I'm not talking about the introduction of the army .... We need heavy equipment and constant supply channels ...
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                  2. Stalker
                    -2
                    3 July 2014 21: 16
                    Stalker, can you read? I'm not talking about the introduction of the army .... We need heavy equipment and constant supply channels ...

                    And who will teach ?? Mattresses only need this !!!!
                    1. -1
                      3 July 2014 23: 34
                      Quote: Stalker
                      Stalker, can you read? I'm not talking about the introduction of the army .... We need heavy equipment and constant supply channels ...

                      And who will teach ?? Mattresses only need this !!!!


                      Stalker turn on the TV there Arabs militants in Iraq and Syria already on tanks and planes prancing. And in New Russia, the Papuans can be seen living and do not know how to approach the tank. We were even scared and scared of the third type of sanctions for sending troops into Novorossia. Not the entry of troops but SANCTIONS. But our great su ...
            5. +1
              3 July 2014 21: 51
              well, and instead of shit ejection in the internet, it’s weak to go there yourself, however, you are a provocator.
          4. Associate Professor
            +3
            3 July 2014 17: 00
            Quote: portoc65
            What is the difference with Ossetia

            The difference is that our peacekeepers attacked and killed in Ossetia.
            Quote: portoc65
            Nafig then Russia a strong army

            What a stupid question?
            1. Andrey82
              +20
              3 July 2014 17: 07
              And if a hundred thousand people are killed in the southeast, will that be enough? Or do we need a million killed by Ukrami Russians with the tacit approval of "our everything"?
              1. Associate Professor
                0
                3 July 2014 17: 46
                Quote: Andrey82
                And if a hundred thousand people are killed in the southeast, will that be enough? Or do we need a million killed by Ukrami Russians with the tacit approval of "our everything"?

                Can't you read? I tell you that OUR peacekeepers were killed there, and not about the number of victims among the population. They attacked our military and killed them. It was impossible not to interfere.
                1. Andrey82
                  +10
                  3 July 2014 17: 56
                  Are you kind of smart? There - genocide and already mass extermination of people who speak Russian and think in Russian, unfortunately, by the will of our past rulers, turned out to be transferred to the outskirts. Can you quote Putin's words about how he was going to "protect" the people in the east of the outskirts with "all", I emphasize again - "by all" means?
                  1. Associate Professor
                    +2
                    3 July 2014 18: 14
                    Quote: Andrey82
                    Are you smart?
                    Well, I like reading, unlike you.
                    Quote: Andrey82
                    Can you quote Putin's words about how he was going to "protect" the people in the east of the outskirts with "all", I emphasize again - "by all" means?

                    Give a quote if possible. And yet, it was said when there was no resistance. Now there is a militia. It must fight for its own country, and we must help with weapons, food and medicine.
                    1. Andrey82
                      +12
                      3 July 2014 18: 25
                      “If we see that this chaos begins in the eastern regions, if people ask us for help, and we already have an official appeal from the current legitimate president, then we reserve the right to use all means available to us to protect these citizens. And we consider it quite legitimate. ”

                      The militia cannot in the main. with light small arms to resist Bandera, who gained access to army warehouses with massive support for tanks, aircraft and artillery. You can continue to talk about how men with Kalash yes and let them take and defeat a military group of 20-30 thousand snouts with RPGs. Bandera have been preparing for war for all these 23 years. They were sponsored and trained by the West. No one sponsored the Russians and did not train them for years. The Russians have a state, but it seems that the people in charge of it do not need Russians.
                      1. Associate Professor
                        0
                        3 July 2014 19: 53
                        You are the difference between "reserve the right" and we will do something if you understand something? Leaving the right does not mean doing.
                        As for weapons, there is a bunch of equipment in the Donbas in military units, why they did not capture it before. A few thousand people fight, half came from Russia and other countries, and healthy men flee to Russia
                        1. Andrey82
                          +6
                          3 July 2014 20: 28
                          Excuses are pathetic and do not roll. In fact - Crimea for rating and South. flow.
                          And in the Russian ukrami killed he does not care.
                          Zadolbali already write about how people with machine guns themselves should bomb an army group with Grads, tanks, attack aircraft and more. Do you even believe that?
                        2. -1
                          3 July 2014 21: 54
                          You, Andrei, seem to live in your small dimension, and more is not included in your circle of judgments. Putin needs to think not only about Russians in New Russia, but about the whole of Russia. There is a lot of information about the global claims of the Anglo-Saxons and Zionists now, analyze, maybe you will stop so zealously condemning Putin. Too much is at stake now. It is a pity for the inhabitants of New Russia, but this had to be done all these years, starting with 1991.
                        3. Andrey82
                          +1
                          3 July 2014 22: 37
                          And what prevented all the last 15 years from investing not in games and summits, but in different funds and elites on the outskirts, following the example of amers? Since 2004, it was unclear what was going on. The outdated practice of personal agreements with Yanukovych and money ($ 15 billion) in the form of a loan did not help and could not help.
                        4. +1
                          3 July 2014 22: 20
                          And why should they fight, "Ivan the Fools" will come and do everything for them, and the Ukrainians of military age will then complain in blogs that they are undernourished in the refugee camps. I think ALL MEN WITH UKRAINIAN PASSPORTS SHOULD BE FORCEDLY DEPARTED FROM RUSSIA TO THE TERRITORY OF UKRAINE. Let them start doing at least something.
                    2. VAF
                      VAF
                      +18
                      3 July 2014 18: 35
                      Quote: Docent
                      , and we must help with weapons, food and medicine.


                      First of all, "we must" do not ... "blurt out the tongue" like - if at least a drop of Slavic blood is shed, "the Russians do not abandon their own", etc.
                      We are sitting on the priest exactly, here we are sitting ... it was necessary to have the courage and immediately state ... the guys are only Crimea ... and you ... whatever you want ... but we will not help at all in your territory. So think.
                      One could not even explain why he decided that way.!
                      That was at least humanly! soldier
                      1. Valexav
                        +2
                        3 July 2014 19: 44
                        Absolutely right! The president is not a market trader, and he must follow the speech very carefully.
                      2. Associate Professor
                        -6
                        3 July 2014 19: 52
                        Quote: vaf
                        First of all, "we must" do not ... "blurt out the tongue" like - if at least a drop of Slavic blood is shed, "the Russians do not abandon their own", etc.

                        Where did you get these words. Nobody said, "if a key is spilled, then we will do something." Why invent. Please provide a quote if you can? when and by whom was it said?
                    3. +4
                      3 July 2014 19: 16
                      everyone says they should, but for some reason we don’t help
                    4. Stalker
                      0
                      3 July 2014 21: 39
                      Give a quote if possible. And yet, it was said when there was no resistance. Now there is a militia. It must fight for its own country, and we must help with weapons, food and medicine.

                      Try to think for Putin, who has recently classically overcome Crimea !!! And the Southeast showed its initiative hoping and not consulting Russia ...

                      And now, when they got into a fight without consent from Russia, Tsarev every week dangles into the Kremlin and advises - WHAT TO DO, MLEEN ???
                2. VAF
                  VAF
                  +11
                  3 July 2014 18: 30
                  Quote: Docent
                  I tell you that OUR peacekeepers were killed there, and not about the number of victims among the population. They attacked our military and killed them. It was impossible not to interfere.


                  If you succeed, take an interest in what losses our border guards suffered during the first impact of dill on Novoshakhtinsk MAPP and further events .. the truth is not written in the press wassat
                  In Ossetia there was a Grad, and in Novoshakhtinsk artillery and mortars ... what is the difference ... but that. that this is our territory and "WHAT" ????
                  1. +3
                    3 July 2014 18: 52
                    Quote: vaf
                    If you succeed, take an interest in what losses our border guards suffered during the first impact of dill on Novoshakhtinsk MAPP and further events .. the truth is not written in the press

                    Hello, Sergey! Well, how are things going? Among our losses were?
                    1. VAF
                      VAF
                      +10
                      3 July 2014 19: 00
                      Quote: nycsson
                      Well, how are things going? Among our losses were?


                      Hi Aleksey! Just like 4 months ago, "painted" (and you wrote the same almost one to one) what will happen and what will happen next .. but they did not even know did not even expect that they would dare to "hammer" on our points and border guards already now ... but what to do. impunity always gives rise to permissiveness ... a common truth soldier
                      I won’t write about losses. You understand yourself .. but what they show on TV ... does not correspond to reality at all! soldier
                      1. 0
                        3 July 2014 21: 56
                        Quote: vaf
                        I won’t write about losses. You understand yourself .. but what they show on TV ... does not correspond to reality at all!

                        Understand.......! Well, like this.....! The debility machine works at full power .... laughing
                  2. Associate Professor
                    -6
                    3 July 2014 19: 51
                    Quote: vaf
                    If you succeed, take an interest in what losses our border guards suffered during the first impact of dill on Novoshakhtinsk MAPP and further events .. the truth is not written in the press

                    They don’t write, but of course I have to believe you. These are just your words, not confirmed by anything.
                3. +3
                  3 July 2014 20: 27
                  Quote: Docent
                  OUR peacekeepers were killed there

                  This is the demagogy of pure water.
                  Firstly, UN peacekeepers, by definition, and Russia, from the point of view of international law, did not have the right to send troops, why the whole West raised a howl about the Russian invasion of Georgia.
                  Secondly, South Ossetia was an unrecognized, self-proclaimed state, like now the DPR and LPR, therefore there is no particular difference in the status of the territories.
                  Further, the South Ossetian militia would have won a lot if it weren’t for the Russian army?
                  And, finally, today they are shelling our border guards, and - what? And peacekeepers would be put down and no one would move.
              2. +16
                3 July 2014 17: 52
                Quote: Andrey82
                And if one hundred thousand people are killed in the southeast, will that be enough?

                Honestly, I don’t understand what is happening, maybe we don’t know something, and it’s much more complicated, why we ourselves said that we would use the troops to protect the population of the southeast in case of junta aggression, now there’s not just aggression, but some kind of medieval African depopulation of the territory ..
                When Saka fired hail against Tskhinvali the whole world recognized it as a war crime, now cities are fired not even with hail and hurricanes, which are several times more powerful, in the photo in the header there is only one hurricane missile, and a volley blows down several five-story buildings, because the system is designed to destroy large mechanized military units .. I watch reports from the places of events people of the southeast are almost completely disappointed in us ..
                Moreover, the main fact that allows us to intervene is that not only Zapadents are fighting against the Donbass, such a conflict would not be so bloody, namely, the PMC invaders, along with the Zapadents, against ordinary people, i.e. it is precisely external aggression and not internal disassembly .. And it is the interventionists who carry out the most important operations, such as the capture of Mariupol (a port city) or for example the Regional State Administration in Kharkov ..
                I would like to give advice to the militias, although I do not have the moral right to do so .. Just defend this path to inevitable defeat, the junta may not even attack, it will just wait for the cold, and people themselves will freeze without the heat of water and electricity, you will have much worse than in besieged Leningrad ..
              3. -4
                3 July 2014 17: 52
                What are you doing? What in the Donetsk region there is nobody to repulse Ukrain ?! No one can see!
                1. +16
                  3 July 2014 18: 13
                  And you try with a gun against the Hurricane, let's see how soon you come running as a refugee ... and the guys are great, they fight as best they can ...
                2. +8
                  3 July 2014 19: 19
                  The most important thing is nothing, even the machines aren’t enough at all
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            3. -28
              3 July 2014 17: 25
              Andrei82 RU Today, 16:59 ↑
              What for then do we need a condom that does not protect Russians abroad only in words?


              How easy it is to manage a herd of sheep ... Moreover, thoughts inspired by them come to the ram’s heads, and the sheep bleat that they themselves have come to this.

              Yes, the people in Russia are so overwhelmed that they cannot even quit smoking themselves, the government had to ban it.

              The Russians forgot that they are Russian, cannot refuse vodka, drink too much and die. Russian village - NO. The government here had to introduce prohibitions and restrictions.

              And here Putin did not send in troops - the lamb and bleated. Well then! We are a proud nation of lambs, ours are not abandoned, bbbeeeeee. You can’t even give up a BUFF, like your Novorossiysk brothers, damn it.

              Putin is to blame for everything! it’s easy to reason with a glass of vodara bought from a Jew, with an American cigarette in his mouth, eating a roshene candy.

              You are the country of the PSRSSRAL and in the 90s, you calmly watched the army and navy collapse, they destroy 3 Russians a year with the help of drugs and vodaras. 000 MILLION Russians a year, and you have been doing nothing for 000 years that you lie in the corners and on the sofa at the computer.

              May be enough? Maybe let the government decide for the sheep? Enough be-be, go better on the turnstile do a couple of approaches, for starters
              1. Andrey82
                +19
                3 July 2014 17: 37
                Quote: Lich
                You are the country of the PSRSSRAL and in the 90s, you calmly watched the army and navy collapse, they destroy 3 Russians a year with the help of drugs and vodaras. 000 MILLION Russians a year, and you have been doing nothing for 000 years that you lie in the corners and on the sofa at the computer.

                Who are you?
                Who destroyed? Why is everything destroying at large and lives well under Putin (Gorbachev, EBN really died, but could live like Gorbi). Why do the hangers-on and the propagandists bleat about the 90s. For almost 15 years we have not been living in them, but Russians are being sold and betrayed as in the 90s. It seems that there is no Yeltsin, but the policy of betrayal is the same.
                And you do not tell me with whom it is prohibitively rising prices and tariffs? Maybe tell and appoint Serdyukov, Zurabov, Fursenko and others, of which the legion, who approved the collapse of the GRU, the robbery of the elderly and the Unified State Examination?
                In vain, try dear. People see everything. They see that the course of Gorbachev and Yeltsin to destroy the Russians continues, although for 15 years they have not been in power, but the one whom you are blocking, but in more elegant ways.
                1. -6
                  3 July 2014 18: 19
                  People see everything. They see that the course of Gorbachev and Yeltsin to destroy the Russians continues, although for 15 years they have not been in power, but the one whom you are blocking, but in more elegant ways.

                  People see everything)) Comrade, can you bring a platform?

                  I repeat, I DO NOT BLANK Putin! But maybe stop blaming all sins on him? Maybe Putin made a revolution in 1917? Maybe he ruined the great empire? And shot the royal family? Putin, huh?

                  No, comrade, it’s not Putin’s fault that we live in dir, but only we ourselves. Not Putin, not Yeltsin, not Gorbachev. Stop blaming someone, it’s as easy as shelling pear, but to go and do something yourself is not it, well, as you can, I’ll better beat the Internet, I’ll fill in the rating.
                  1. +8
                    3 July 2014 18: 49
                    Opa, Gorbachev is not to blame for the collapse of the USSR .... And then who is to blame? I, who was then 10 years old?))))) And Yeltsin is not to blame for the 94 year in Chechnya, again, are ordinary people to blame? Including me 12 summer?) It turns out, I, in my 12 years, with my connivance brought to power in Chechnya Dudaev?))))
                    1. +4
                      3 July 2014 19: 00
                      Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich signed the corresponding document in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, after which the USSR ceased to exist
                    2. -1
                      3 July 2014 19: 42
                      God save this country from rams. Not from the Yeltsins, Gorbachevs, Nemtsovs and others who hate the herd, but from the sowing themselves. Even the example of Uraina does not teach them anything.


                      laughing

                      Glory to the herd of Russia! Glory to the rams!
                  2. Andrey82
                    +2
                    3 July 2014 18: 49
                    Shit, already in the 90s we switched to the 17th, what's next? Maybe the Old Testament times?

                    I say-Putin is not in the business. It is only we who are to blame. He, as the head of the country, should not be held responsible for anything in it and on its borders, just like the head of the family, for example.
                    We have a wonderful system where everything is not closed to one person, etc. etc.
                    1. +3
                      3 July 2014 19: 03
                      Ah, let’s we change places? We’ll all sit in the Kremlin, and he alone (with his comrades) will feed us in the field and at the factory. How he slipped after Boris - do not remember? Yeah, democracy and the choice of the people! On the hard drive they drew how many pros and cons, from the bulldozer - you understand the elections ...
                  3. +6
                    3 July 2014 18: 58
                    Are you his relative, or agitprop? For example, I didn’t choose Putin, and Yeltsin did not choose, and Gorbi did not hunch, I went to the polls once in my life, after school in the Soviet years. But when Yeltsin was still nobody and he was redeemed under the bridge, he said in the team that these new ones would be millions of times shitier than the Soviet old ones. For which they nearly beat me. And as you see, I was not mistaken.
              2. lenamir
                +6
                3 July 2014 17: 50
                I agree with you ... Muscovites and Petersburgers do not understand this .... they are used to making revolutions .... but they fight in the army and serve the provincials ...
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                2. Stalker
                  +9
                  3 July 2014 17: 56
                  but they fight in the army and serve the provincials ...

                  I am from Moscow, but my two sons are on the border of the Rostov region .... hi
                3. -14
                  3 July 2014 18: 11
                  What nonsense. What does the Muscovites have to do with it? I served in the army, so what? There Russian servants alone serve, Putin is also guilty that conscripts alone are dr. I’m not blocking Putin, and I don’t care about politics, I look at the population.

                  By the way, in our regiment from St. Petersburg and Moscow there were more healthy and athletic guys than from the village, from there there were only half-frogs. Well, yes, Putin is to blame for the fact that their fathers and mothers drunk such d.i.b.
                  1. Stalker
                    -6
                    3 July 2014 18: 42
                    Plus for you ... laughing While you and I brought half-dead people to ("0") ... good
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                    2. Stalker
                      0
                      3 July 2014 20: 31
                      This is how those Bendery who watch "VESTI 24" look and for this they minus me ...
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                  2. +8
                    3 July 2014 18: 50
                    Well, here in St. Petersburg and Moscow there were entirely nariks, and without exception. So, is it better to be a village drunk, or a city drunk ????
                  3. +11
                    3 July 2014 18: 59
                    By the way, in our regiment from St. Petersburg and Moscow there were more healthy and athletic guys than from the village, from there there were only half-frogs. Well, yes, Putin is to blame for the fact that their fathers and mothers drunk such d.i.b.

                    Hey you goon Moscow. You probably only saw the village in the picture in the book. Horseradish manager, what do you know how to get bread. You are a sports guy who goes to fitness from idleness, and people after the field are not up to the gyms.
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                    2. Stalker
                      0
                      3 July 2014 19: 30
                      Hey you goon Moscow. You probably only saw the village in the picture in the book.

                      Personally, even though I was born in Moscow, I did not forget how the horns on horseback without a saddle using a rope are brought into a pile ....
                      1. +1
                        3 July 2014 20: 09
                        Personally, even though I was born in Moscow, I did not forget how the horns on horseback without a saddle using a rope are brought into a pile ....

                        You were not born in Moscow, but in the USSR. That's why you remember, that's why your worldview is different, unlike irradiated fitness enthusiasts
                        1. Stalker
                          +1
                          3 July 2014 21: 07
                          That's why you remember, that's why your worldview is different, unlike irradiated fitness enthusiasts

                          I'm at least under 60. But my opinion of fitness is akin to practicing ananism !!! Self-satisfaction without benefit to society! It’s necessary to solder the dynamo to the exercise bike, let them twist it for the benefit of society ... By the way, my even harmless drawings like monkeys throw nuts on a telly supposedly on which VESTI 24 is reporting, they cut m..o..de.ry .. Maybe right now it will work out ??. ..
                        2. Stalker
                          0
                          3 July 2014 21: 07
                          That's why you remember, that's why your worldview is different, unlike irradiated fitness enthusiasts

                          I'm at least under 60. But my opinion of fitness is akin to practicing ananism !!! Self-satisfaction without benefit to society! It’s necessary to solder the dynamo to the exercise bike, let them twist it for the benefit of society ... By the way, my even harmless drawings like monkeys throw nuts on a telly supposedly on which VESTI 24 is reporting, they cut m..o..de.ry .. Maybe right now it will work out ??. .. HOORAY !!! MISSED FROM 5 ATTEMPTS !!!! Appolon is apparently sleeping ...
                    3. 0
                      3 July 2014 19: 37
                      Uhahha)) After the field they are not up to the gyms, they must thump.

                      I was born and raised in a village, more precisely in a city with a population of 30 thousand, one crap. So, there are NO gyms, do not drive horses, Olesha.
                      And I’m not a manager, but a nuclear physicist)) And I don’t have to poke, if I myself can’t get out of O.V.N.
                      1. +2
                        3 July 2014 20: 04
                        And I’m not a manager, but a nuclear physicist)) And I don’t have to poke, if I myself can’t get out of O.V.N.

                        I haven’t been to g.v.n.. "Thou" was not considered an insult until now, and in some periods of history it was considered a symbol of equality (for example, the Great French Revolution). And as for the nuclear scientist, excuse me, you do not know the people of the d.u.i.l.A.M. and call them names, you see an irradiated person, I am sorry I did not know.
                      2. 11111mail.ru
                        0
                        5 July 2014 18: 20
                        Quote: Lich
                        I was born and raised in a village, more precisely in a city with a population of 30 thousand,

                        Quote: Lich
                        And I'm not a manager, but a nuclear physicist

                        Nice village (30 thousand)! And all nuclear physicists?
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                  5. +3
                    3 July 2014 19: 06
                    And you for the population jo .. do not tear. We did not give you the authority to answer for us. You are the population, and we are the people.
              3. 0
                3 July 2014 17: 55
                Quote: Lich
                he himself cannot even quit smoking; the state had to ban it.

                Good girl.
                1. Andrey82
                  +2
                  3 July 2014 18: 00
                  And when was smoking banned?
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            4. +8
              3 July 2014 18: 45
              Quote: Docent
              Quote: portoc65
              What is the difference with Ossetia

              The difference is that our peacekeepers attacked and killed in Ossetia.
              Quote: portoc65
              Nafig then Russia a strong army

              What a stupid question?

              Well, now our territory is constantly bombarded and the lives of our people are under direct threat, so what's the difference?
          5. +7
            3 July 2014 18: 04
            If I seriously and briefly answer this question, I think this: And the oligarchs rule in Russia ... The GDP is only trying to make this process more digestible for the population. And the stronger American ones want to take away Ukraine from the Russian oligarchs. ssat.Krym is a separate song - without it, the opinions of our oligarchophrenics could have been little considered ...
            1. Associate Professor
              +1
              3 July 2014 18: 18
              Quote: vo.dum
              Crimea is a separate song

              Crimea is really a separate song. There are most ethnic Russians who voted to join Russia. And Crimea is the Black Sea base of the Russian fleet. The rest is your baseless fabrications
              1. +7
                3 July 2014 19: 01
                Quote: Docent
                There are most ethnic Russians who voted to join Russia.

                You want to say that the Crimeans are more Russian than, say, the residents of the Melovoy, who are separated from the Russian Chertkov railway? And what are you guided by, so to speak? In Crimea, fewer mistakes are made with a written dictation? Or do they have there in every house on every bed the iconostasis of Russian tsars and presidents with general secretaries hangs? They voted on the account .... in Lugansk they also voted the majority, but to someone all these votes turned out to be one place ....
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                2. Stalker
                  +3
                  3 July 2014 19: 43
                  You want to say that the Crimeans are more Russian than, say, the residents of the Melovoy, who are separated from the Russian Chertkov railway? And what are you guided by, so to speak? In Crimea, fewer mistakes are made with a written dictation? Or do they have there in every house on every bed the iconostasis of Russian tsars and presidents with general secretaries hangs? They voted on the account .... in Lugansk they also voted the majority, but to someone all these votes turned out to be one place ....

                  It’s becoming more and more complicated in politics ... Are you sure that in a referendum your call will be supported 100% in Russia by pensioners who haven’t received a lunch supplement to their pension because of Crimea ?? .. Minus, but I'm right !!! Even if they come to Crimea and say that they have sacrificed their pension bonus for local pensioners, NOBODY will give them a discount !!! THERE are their problems ... Who is minus .. Remember I RIGHT !! And you will see this when you arrive. This is life and not an illusion !! And IN THE SOUL I’m glad that our Crimea, at least not once there!
                3. Associate Professor
                  -2
                  3 July 2014 20: 01
                  Can you read? Crimea is the territory where it lives most ethnic Russians that wanted to be part of Russia. In the Southeast, neither one nor the other.
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            3. Stalker
              -5
              3 July 2014 19: 24
              N-yes ... Ours do not piss ... If mattress covers continue to press on the EU, the United States will not say hello !!! SE is not captured, shale gas in the future from Ukraine! Winter is on the nose !! No junta army !!! Hang on to Donetsk, Lugansk ... Our volunteers are far from everything !!! And help will be !!!!!
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          7. 0
            3 July 2014 18: 52
            Alas, there is a difference ... firstly, our peacekeepers died, and secondly, the majority of the population of South Ossetia are citizens of the Russian Federation. I am against the entry of our ground forces, but for the BLOW on the Ukrovsk group, of all that can strike, without entering the territory of New Russia.
          8. _Forgiven_
            0
            6 July 2014 00: 28
            As if they read my thoughts ... In the case of Ossetia, the troops were brought in quickly and without too much talk. And here it is not clear why the rubber stretches.
        2. +11
          3 July 2014 16: 50
          In the mines of the oligarchs for a couple of decades with the confiscation of all property.
          1. +2
            3 July 2014 17: 55
            Do you do it yourself? Or write a complaint about them? Heroes ... Couch.
        3. +5
          3 July 2014 17: 01
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          It is necessary to send troops! Yes, and to hell with them, with the sanctions, survive! But people die every day!

          We will survive, but the oligarchs will not survive ... Well, how much dough is lost!

          About whom it is least necessary to worry
        4. +17
          3 July 2014 17: 08
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          It is necessary to send troops! Yes, and to hell with them, with the sanctions, survive! But people die every day!

          We will survive, but the oligarchs will not survive ... Well, how much dough is lost!


          Yes, where does the loot. If we introduce troops, then WE will fight, incl. and with the gangster-partisan detachments of Bandera, and with many hesitating, who already consider us to be invaders, and the Americans will laugh, because will achieve their goal, standing aside. This war will give them the opportunity to exist comfortably for another 10-15 years. And we will waste all the accumulated potential, including and military and back to the 90 years.

          Remember how during the Battle of Kulikovo, when the Horde had already surrounded the left wing of the Russian rati, they knocked down the Grand Ducal banner and killed the boyar Brenka, who in full armor stood under this banner, depicting Grand Duke Dmitry, and the fresh ambush regiment continued to stand in the oak grove from place. As Prince Vladimir (Dmitry's brother) requested, seeing the death of the Russian rati, strike as soon as possible. But, fortunately, the main governor of the regiment was Dmitry Bobrok, who, despite the losses of the Russians, chose the only moment that brought victory for the strike.

          I don’t know if Putin has such a plan, but I thought and still think, despite the overwhelming emotions, that our armed forces MUST STAND and not join the war before the Americans.
          1. +13
            3 July 2014 17: 52
            And you tell Strelkov and Motorola that we will stand ... Historical analogies should be applied very carefully. This is not a panacea!
            And here we have already, in the north-west of Rost. regions, on the border, people from remote farms began to move to the center ...
            1. +3
              3 July 2014 19: 11
              That's it! Not we them, so they will squeeze us!
          2. VAF
            VAF
            +15
            3 July 2014 18: 16
            Quote: mamont5
            despite the overwhelming emotions that our Sun MUST STAND and not join the war before the Americans.


            And who told you that NAT will "climb" first and generally climb ???

            But when the Ukrainians trample on the Crimea, then I really hope that our Dear President will remember that Crimea is already the territory of the Russian Federation and residents of the Russian Federation already live there and I hope ... he will still "answer" for real, and not ... express "a resolute protest "to their" partners and colleagues! " wassat
            But the question arises .. and what for was to bring to this .... his "cunning plan" ??? belay
            When it was possible to destroy all the fascist rabble in a day .. even without the introduction of troops.
            where then to go? Who should be protected if the Nazi Nazis no longer exist ???
            That's it ....
            1. +6
              3 July 2014 18: 56
              Quote: vaf
              That's it ....

              I, Sergey, have bad thoughts in my head. More than once I wrote the same thing as you. So, it seems to me that they are all at the same time .... and operate according to one plan ..... belay
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +6
                3 July 2014 19: 10
                Quote: nycsson
                I, Sergey, have bad thoughts in my head.


                Lyosha ... 4 months ago wrote a comment .. I won’t just conclude: I am ashamed !!!
                and the famous phrase (which caused hysteria and the songwriter of Esaul and his gop-company "uryakalok-approved" wassat
                to which he was "born" with two whole "pearls"
                1. Swallows flew in.
                2. And we will celebrate the victory later.
                especially the extreme pamphlet "made me happy." because the female half joined in "singing along" ... you understand backing vocals.
                Take it now and post all these approbation-uryakaloks .. yes, highlight them fatter and list .. so that at least they would be ashamed, but normal people looked .. as soon as "...... radishes" on the site soldier

                Therefore, I never voted for him and never chose .. I always knew what ... it is and how it will end soldier
                1. +1
                  3 July 2014 22: 02
                  Quote: vaf
                  Therefore, I never voted for him and never chose .. I always knew what ... it is and how it will end

                  And I can’t boast like that! The first time I voted for him! Mal was and stupid! Then it just came to ....... Eh, trouble, and only .....
                  But I don’t even want to talk about these Serge-Urzul and Co.! They have done their dirty work of fooling the population and continue to do so. I have one hope. To God! If he does not intercede for us mediocrity, then we all have a khan! I do not see any positive trends, only every day we exacerbate my situation!
            2. +7
              3 July 2014 19: 18
              There will be war, everything is one! A day earlier, a day later. And we are ready - we will never be! It is a Russian custom not to be ready for war. Turks and Muslims, Jews, Geyropa is all asleep and sees to devour our remnants of the Motherland with giblets. And we can’t get out - in any way. And we will not be ready - never, and they steal a lot, and the conscript is not the same, and people are used to wealth, they do not greet each other, they only look in the drawer - yes, they are saving "COMFORT" It is necessary to break the vicious circle of the filthy swamping swamp!
            3. Associate Professor
              -1
              3 July 2014 20: 09
              Quote: vaf
              But the question arises .. and what for was to bring to this .... his "cunning plan" ???

              Why do you ascribe some "cunning plan" to him. Has he ever said something about a "cunning plan"? Nobody was going to send troops there and nobody talked about it. Read the appeal to the Federation Council, it says about Crimea
          3. +2
            3 July 2014 18: 55
            DNI and LC should take place as republics - then it is possible to bring in troops and help (after recognizing them), but - they can figure it out among themselves - who is in the woods who is firewood, now introducing the army and defeating ukrov, there will be no one “That’s why Putin is trying to preserve his face and somehow help out the situation - he understood it even earlier when he proposed to postpone the referendum - I think he has more information than ours! Ideally, it would be to freeze the conflict - and there you look and appear on Donbass new leaders with whom you can do business, otherwise you can’t look at the current without tears!
          4. +3
            3 July 2014 19: 10
            And if we don’t introduce it, then they will fight against us! This is a huge difference. So we are on them, otherwise they are on us! The choice of options is simply huge!
        5. +2
          3 July 2014 17: 20
          And their (olegharhoff) in the vanguard, and even better in reconnaissance for the front line! am
        6. +6
          3 July 2014 17: 59
          Everything is clear ... our oligarchs crap ...- sanctions ... Kurshaveli is for them a matter of theirs life more ordinary ... parasites ..- and some kind of lost GDP sad
        7. +2
          3 July 2014 18: 48
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          We will survive, but the oligarchs will not survive ... Well, how much dough is lost!

          Have you heard about FATKA American law? They have already lost everything! laughing
        8. 0
          3 July 2014 19: 38
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          We will survive, but the oligarchs will not survive ... Well, how much dough is lost!

          Putin warned them more than once that it was time to return to Russia. Who did not heed, let him blame himself ... They do not mind ...
        9. Stalker
          0
          3 July 2014 20: 24
          Just a new min. junta promised "Victory will be for Ukraine and the victory parade (over whom ??) will be held in Sevastopol !!!! belay lol fool wassat laughing am
        10. 0
          3 July 2014 21: 02
          all the oligarchs in jail is the sixth column
        11. 0
          4 July 2014 15: 34
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          We will survive, but the oligarchs will not survive ... Well, how much dough is lost!


          Yes, apparently, the government decided - it is better to drag out the war into our territory.
          Not for that gringi, maydauns were raised, so that Russia, "From the edge" would sit out, all the same, they would be smeared with "WORLD AGGRESSORS".
          So it’s time for residents of border settlements in Russia (just like a fireman) to look where to pull ... At least women and children.
          I really do not want what would come true, but for now, all the previously expressed fears are coming true.

          Yes! By the way, there were rumors that the maydaunas were already beginning to plunder the border shops, saying that soon they would come to us, too, to restore their order. (Rostov region)
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      2. IvanT
        +4
        3 July 2014 16: 33
        How would these people then began to shoot in the back (
        1. Oleg amos
          +9
          3 July 2014 16: 35
          They won’t be there yet, but if we show how we don’t leave our own, we don’t exclude
          1. +26
            3 July 2014 16: 40
            true observation. I don’t know how, but all this will turn against Russia and soon.
            1. portoc65
              +14
              3 July 2014 16: 58
              If they want a war with Russia, they will easily get their way. Attack the Crimea. On the go they have plans ... so it is not better if a war is inevitable, now press dill ...
            2. +3
              3 July 2014 17: 39
              Russia will immediately become an aggressor to the delight of America. NATO will get involved and the war will no longer be for Ukraine. The Americans had a severe crisis before the Second World War. After America, it corrected its position and ruined many states. Now America needs a war to its throat, but not on its territory, but it would be nice if NATO and Russia would be on horseback again. Look how the American elite is furious when Russia again did not send troops, they even manage to say about the attack, and then refute it. I don’t think that the oligarchs would stop the GDP, a moment is needed.
        2. +7
          3 July 2014 16: 56
          PPC !!! Pravoseki got ... What a pity for the Natsik could be ... !!! No!!! Only TOTAL DESTRUCTION !!!
          1. Stypor23
            +8
            3 July 2014 16: 59
            Quote: Armagedon
            PPC !!!

            Something new. People are changing, to see this mess, like a lump in the throat, many Russians
      3. +60
        3 July 2014 16: 35
        When shooting a video in Stanitsa Lugansk yesterday, the victim said - We thought Putin had eggs.


        People wait and hope ...
        Time is getting less and less - the next step will be stripping.
        1. +32
          3 July 2014 16: 40
          nitrid, we also thought, but were mistaken, alas ...
          All that remains is to help with humanitarian aid. Yes, ask for forgiveness, for our cowardly and corrupt power ...
          1. Valexav
            +3
            3 July 2014 19: 54
            It is forgiveness. First - for Serbia, now for New Russia.
        2. +38
          3 July 2014 16: 40
          We thought Putin had eggs

          Oh, now someone’s sloping rating will go!
          1. +14
            3 July 2014 16: 57
            You are dumbfounded by ratings. I am sitting and my ass on a warm sofa. and I think, but I myself am ready to take a break and I’m unsure of myself. And cheers to patriots, trains go planes fly a flag in their hands (well, who’s brave)
            1. Oleg amos
              +7
              3 July 2014 17: 17
              Then exit the site and turn on the TV, there we have everything in chocolate
              1. 2014videonew
                +1
                3 July 2014 17: 37
                Why are you still on the Internet, and do not assemble a detachment to help Slavyansk?
              2. 0
                3 July 2014 17: 58
                And here we are fighting? Heroes not count?
            2. +1
              3 July 2014 17: 45
              You need to watch HOUSE-2 ...
            3. +7
              3 July 2014 18: 10
              Quote: AVA77
              You are dumbfounded by ratings. I am sitting and my ass on a warm sofa. and I think, but I myself am ready to take a break and I’m unsure of myself. And cheers to patriots, trains go planes fly a flag in their hands (well, who’s brave)

              If I understand the state structure correctly, then the ARMY exists to protect the interests of the state. Which we pay taxes to. And which should be properly equipped and prepared. The army must resist the army, not civilians.
              And about - who is brave - so they will declare universal and will not ask whether you are a brave or a coward. Behind me, at least, service in the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union ...
          2. +3
            3 July 2014 16: 59
            no, he won’t go and run.
          3. +8
            3 July 2014 17: 07
            Quote: Rostovchanin
            Oh, now someone’s sloping rating will go!

            It flies on a hang-glider, strokes a tigress, dives after amphorae, catches a pike and the rating is restored. Guilty, as always will be the boyars, white-bellies and liberals. In a sect, the rating of God does not fall for a long time.
            1. +3
              3 July 2014 18: 57
              Quote: Karabin
              It flies on a hang-glider, strokes a tigress, dives after amphorae, catches a pike and the rating is restored. Guilty, as always will be the boyars, white-bellies and liberals. In a sect, the rating of God does not fall for a long time.

              He laughed heartily ...... laughing
          4. Ural74
            0
            3 July 2014 17: 16
            It looks like it will fall (rating) at 07.30 or hang at 06.30
          5. VAF
            VAF
            +6
            3 July 2014 18: 43
            Quote: Rostovchanin
            Oh, now someone’s sloping rating will go!


            This is with VTsIOM Levada Center and the "storyteller" churov ??? belayI am begging you... lol
            How many need and .. "draw" wassat
        3. +15
          3 July 2014 16: 42
          And if the introduction of troops leads to a full-scale war with Russia, I believe the alarmists will be the first to start yelling "why did Putin bring in troops?" I think our leadership has more prudence than you and me. IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO INPUT THE TROOPS, AND TO SUPPORT AND HELP IT IS NECESSARY, WHAT IS DONE ...
          1. +13
            3 July 2014 17: 00
            you would have to help.
            1. 0
              3 July 2014 17: 11
              lieutenant colonel, maybe you should go there and write comments from there reasonably ????
              1. +1
                3 July 2014 17: 24
                gentlemen, take the trouble to argue their couch minuses at least by the fact that you served in the army .. sit smart at the monitor.
                1. 2014videonew
                  0
                  3 July 2014 17: 40
                  Exactly. It seems that everyone would gladly go to fight, but only someone does not give them. I won’t be surprised if these kitchen generals are 16 years old.
                2. VAF
                  VAF
                  +5
                  3 July 2014 18: 48
                  Quote: Monk
                  gentlemen, take the trouble to argue their couch minuses at least by the fact that you served in the army .. sit smart at the monitor.


                  I justify it by putting a minus in the coin where you write about help and support.
                  Yes, there is some help. but support ... 0 integers and 0 tenths.
                  I know what I'm writing! soldier
                  1. -1
                    3 July 2014 21: 18
                    Believe me, I also know a little about what I write
                3. Valexav
                  +1
                  3 July 2014 19: 57
                  What is there to argue? It was necessary to help the SERVER. YESTERDAY was already posture, and today even more so. Time for military assistance has been missed (read Strelkova).
                4. +3
                  3 July 2014 20: 41
                  Quote: Monk
                  gentlemen, take the trouble to argue your couch minuses at least by the fact that you served in the army

                  My opinion is that many of them have never served anywhere. Neither in the Army, nor in other structures. There are a lot of just young people (schoolchildren), personally, I am only for the fact that young people are so patriotic, they are interested in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, it’s not for nothing that they registered for the VO, but because of their youth and lack of life experience, they just roll over their emotions.

                  Quote: Yapet100
                  it is the ARMY that exists to protect the interests of the state


                  And if there are not enough contractors? And there aren’t enough conscripts? We will not talk about whether we will go to war then - we will go, we will run. But will you be ready to send your son to this war?

                  Now let's try to answer questions.

                  There is no evidence of real support for Novorossiya by our government, at the moment. On the other hand, all Russian channels daily show us the horrors of what is happening. If the decision is made to "drain" Donbass, why is all this shown? After all, with the state resource, all these reports can be brought to naught in 2-3 days. How to connect one with the other? What is it for?

                  In the Donetsk region there are many, few, but there are military units in which there are including armored vehicles (for example, tank in Artyomovsk). When did the REAL military operation against the militias begin? Why were these parts not captured? Or besides Strelkov there were no pros there?

                  Why in the Lugansk region where there are militias and Cossacks, at least until recently, the border was actually under the control of the LPR, and in the DPR, and even more so this was not?

                  Why is the news, including confirmed by video shooting, a column of militia armored vehicles moving, then options: tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, etc. come mainly from the LPR, but not from the DPR?

                  Why is the "plane fall" and "armor burning" happening mainly in the LPR?

                  Why are there messages like from the DNR - the field commander Bes seized the DNR building, but there is no such news from the DNR?

                  Why are representatives of the DPR mostly hanging on TV, but not the LPR?

                  A bunch more why. Any answers?

                  And finally, more than once already asked by me a question that remained unanswered. Maybe lucky now?

                  Why did the junta give Yanukovych an escape? Or how much?
                  1. +3
                    3 July 2014 21: 11
                    Quote: Rostov
                    And if there are not enough contractors? And there aren’t enough conscripts? We will not talk about whether we will go to war then - we will go, we will run. But will you be ready to send your son to this war?

                    None of us are eager to send sons to war. Only .. "War is a great evil, and sometimes there is a need to fight." E. Hemingway.
                    Now the elder called and says that the earth is trembling from the peals .. And what is our choice ?????
                    1. 0
                      3 July 2014 21: 54
                      Quote: Yapet100
                      And what is our choice?

                      I answered you in a personal.
          2. Andrey82
            +9
            3 July 2014 17: 02
            What war? Nuclear? If the West needs it, it will start a war when it needs to. The betrayal of New Russia by Putin will only postpone the war. No more. Next - Crimea, Russia ...
            1. +1
              3 July 2014 17: 12
              No, well, I can’t do it anymore, someone already explain to alarmists the essence of the reality that is going on
              1. The Art of War
                +4
                3 July 2014 17: 31
                The monk has so many alarmists am ! The feeling that here, too, the 5th column woke up! You can minus at least there will be ideas how many of them are here!
                1. +1
                  3 July 2014 17: 35
                  I agree, but they hurt too much to restrain the mind more and more difficult, emotions become stronger
                2. Andrey82
                  +4
                  3 July 2014 18: 09
                  That is, comrades who carried out the transfer of equipment from the Crimea to Bandera, pumped up with free gas, silently watching the genocide of the population in the east of the Outskirts and their fans are not traitors and not alarmists, but those who oppose betrayal are alarmists ?!
                  Truly the propagandists have no shame or conscience !!!
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                4. +2
                  3 July 2014 18: 31
                  Quote: The Art of War
                  The monk has so many alarmists! The feeling that there is also a 5th column woke up! You can minus at least there will be ideas how many of them are here!

                  Be careful with such statements, or if there is no "ambush regiment" about which mamont5 said, then you monsieur, automatically become the 5th column! wink
                  hi
            2. lenamir
              +2
              3 July 2014 17: 57
              .. what kind of war in the Crimea? !!! they themselves will die by winter and kill each other ... Ukraine collapse!
          3. asater1000
            +13
            3 July 2014 17: 03
            and your help and support is so tangible? if ordinary citizens who have collected this with their own money are sent socks, unloadings and body armor to the militia, what kind of help are we talking about? if you supply them with small arms, anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons it will go unnoticed in your opinion? the reaction will be the same as with the introduction of troops, maybe a little softer.
            In my opinion, it’s time to concentrate units of all stripes at the borders and at least ensure safe refugee departure, otherwise buses with peaceful people will be shot, and shells will fall on our territory
            1. +7
              3 July 2014 17: 10
              You are very naive if you think that they’ll give such an info on air and even Srelkov will not tell you that ..
              1. asater1000
                +7
                3 July 2014 17: 20
                no, I'm not naive. neither we nor he will naturally say about this, but will this be left without attention is it another? or is assistance meant by transferring one or two units? No, they are talking about specific supplies and help, only wondering how this will happen and how much weapons need to be transferred so that the people's militia can withstand the regular army of the once powerful military power? whatever one may say, Ukraine has enough weapons, and probably the situation with the establishment of troops is improving all the same, what are they counting on? But will they use the Point? what then do you want to do? I am for any option in which we can save as many lives as possible of the inhabitants of the South East and, naturally, of our Russian soldiers. Just what is this option?
              2. The Art of War
                0
                3 July 2014 17: 32
                They show what is possible and what cannot be shown!
              3. The Art of War
                +2
                3 July 2014 18: 35
                http://warfiles.ru/show-63092-strelkov-obvinil-v-dezertirstve-treh-komandirov-op
                olcheniya.html
                1. The Art of War
                  0
                  3 July 2014 19: 28
                  Who put a minus at least explain!
              4. Valexav
                0
                3 July 2014 20: 00
                Tanks from the pedestals, you see, removed from a good life?
                1. The Art of War
                  0
                  3 July 2014 20: 49
                  If removed, then there are shells for them wink
          4. iung
            +2
            3 July 2014 17: 10
            so helped not so long ago with a truce) at the same time and with the south stream razrulili.
          5. +8
            3 July 2014 17: 15
            Quote: Monk
            And if the introduction of troops leads to a full-scale war with Russia,

            But the priest will not burst at banderlog from such a scale?
            Quote: Monk
            But YOU NEED TO SUPPORT AND HELP WHAT IS DOED ...

            As Lavrov said following a meeting of the foreign ministers of Russia, France, Germany and Ukraine, “today we were able to agree on a declaration in accordance with the instructions of our leaders, and I can report that this order has been completed.” Russia confirms readiness to place at a number of border checkpoints on the Russian-Ukrainian border OSCE observers and Ukrainian border guardsLavrov said
            1. +5
              3 July 2014 17: 20
              Mr. Karabin, and here are the monkeys from the Maidan ?????? Mlyn read someone else geopolitics war will be world ... I’m tired of saying basic things, all I’ll just read comments
              1. The Art of War
                +1
                3 July 2014 17: 40
                Monk, compare the time of World War 1 and 2!
                I figured it out for 25 years then the war in Vietnam is not world but large-scale then almost the war in Afghanistan and right now it can brew
                1. +3
                  3 July 2014 19: 16
                  Alexander, it amazes me the naivete of the members of the forum everyone refuses to understand ordinary things, well, or is this really the fifth column that squeals from powerlessness, which can not in any way provoke Russia to war.
                  1. +1
                    3 July 2014 19: 21
                    Perhaps I’ll return to the discussion in about 15 days, then we’ll talk, if I’m wrong, and Russia merged Novorossia, I honestly admit that I was wrong, but let's wait a couple of weeks.
                    1. +2
                      3 July 2014 20: 37
                      Quote: Monk
                      Perhaps I’ll return to the discussion in about 15 days, then we’ll talk, if I’m wrong, and Russia merged Novorossia, I honestly admit that I was wrong, but let's wait a couple of weeks.

                      Let's wait ... By that time, Strelkov and Motorola are unlikely to survive .. And your recognition will not bring at least anyone moral satisfaction ...
                      And if in the near future at least equipment will not be helped, then ... there will be scorched earth in the place of New Russia.
                      They were brutalized from impunity and blood, they were brutalized from power over people, they were brutalized from the possibility of killing anyone with impunity! Okay ... Let's wait ...
                      But smart people here say - the next Crimea !!!!
                      And do not, pzhl, throw the word alarmist, not knowing the biographies of those forum users whom you call so!
              2. +7
                3 July 2014 17: 44
                Quote: Monk
                war will be world ..

                What makes you think that someone will fit into the world war? States? Europe? Did they collapse from oak? There will be no winners as long as there is nuclear parity. Therefore, there will be no world war. There remain banderlogs and their zombie tribesmen, who are not ready for a full-scale war materially, technically, or economically. You can certainly turn a blind eye to Slavyansk and the entire SE, but then what? What shall we do so that there would be no war? Cancer stand up?
                1. +6
                  3 July 2014 19: 01
                  Quote: Karabin
                  There will be no winners as long as there is nuclear parity.

                  Yes, this nuclear parity fuck no one needs. They bypassed him. Ukraine will climb to the Crimea! Will vigorous bombs bomb them? They will do everything through terrorists and fascists. The trend is obvious. And if anyone thinks that they will stop at the DNI and LC, then I will say this: you have no brains!
                2. +4
                  3 July 2014 19: 03
                  Quote: Karabin
                  What shall we do so that there would be no war?

                  Then there will be Crimea and its exchange against sanctions
                3. +1
                  3 July 2014 19: 17
                  Read the story from the beginning of the First World War and you will understand if they collapsed from an oak tree or not ... you need to save education in Russia it’s too lazy to even know the history of your own country
          6. +1
            3 July 2014 17: 35
            Plus you are huge !!! There are still sane people on the site! good
            1. VAF
              VAF
              +1
              3 July 2014 18: 55
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Plus you are huge !!!


              They’d also specify ... to whom you request ??

              if Karabin good drinks , but if the Monk .. definitely negative hi
              1. +3
                3 July 2014 21: 51
                Quote: vaf
                Still would specify ... to whom to you ???

                if to Karabin, then, if to the Monk .. unequivocally

                Is it difficult to follow the arrow? Plus, of course, to the Monk. And of course you want to fight, the flag is in your hands! Only now, I’m sure, others will fight - those who just don’t want war, because of such patriots like you and Karabin. (I’m catching your minuses with joy!)
          7. +5
            3 July 2014 17: 48
            But doesn’t it seem to you that help is somehow weak and somehow we are tearing down?
        4. pg4
          +22
          3 July 2014 16: 44
          And how it all began.
          People felt that Russia was behind them and rose. But all of a sudden the troops took away the Ukrainian troops, they understood this and with the support of the West they are doing everything they want.
          1. Snipe
            +6
            3 July 2014 16: 59
            And so they offended the Russians in Novorossia ...
        5. Associate Professor
          +9
          3 July 2014 17: 01
          Quote: nitrid
          We thought Putin had eggs.

          These are not those healthy men who then go to Russia as refugees say so?
        6. +3
          3 July 2014 17: 49
          - Let the Dead Wolf say.
          When the pack leader does not kill the intended prey, the rest of the life (usually very short) of the recent leader is called the Dead Wolf.
          With a weary motion, Akela raised his old head.
          “The Free People and you jackals of Sher Khan!” For twelve years I took you to hunting and from hunting, and during all this time no one, not one wolf fell into a trap and was not mutilated. Now I have lost the booty. You know how the plot was executed. You know that they brought me to a strong sambhur to show everyone my weakness. Thought cleverly! You have the right to kill me now on Council Rock. So I ask you, who will come out to end the Lone Wolf? By virtue of the Law of the Jungle, you must go out one at a time.
          There was a long silence; none of the wolves wanted to fight one to one with Akela. / Kipling Rudyard Joseph / Mowgli
        7. +2
          3 July 2014 17: 57
          And we hoped that the Southeast has eggs!
        8. +1
          3 July 2014 18: 21
          Quote: nitrid
          the victim said - We thought Putin had eggs.

          And Putin thought they have. He sends weapons, so fight, your land, defend.
      4. +30
        3 July 2014 16: 37
        Quote: Megatron
        It is necessary to send troops!

        It is not necessary to enter, it is enough to apply a few air strikes. But there will be neither one nor the other. Putin has already said that it is necessary to enter into dialogue with the new elite of Ukraine ...
        1. +8
          3 July 2014 16: 39
          There is NO cross on it !!!!!!!!
          1. +7
            3 July 2014 17: 04
            There are a lot of crosses on it, in the cemeteries of New Russia, all of it ...
        2. VPO
          VPO
          +29
          3 July 2014 16: 42
          I agree. Why introduce? Work out point or iskander. All questions will be removed instantly. And on the accusations make a stupid face psaki and say that they don’t even taste guys.
          1. +10
            3 July 2014 16: 55
            Work out point or iskander

            I think that right now is the time to "dispose of" points because it is much more expensive to write off and disassemble them.
        3. Cat
          +3
          3 July 2014 18: 02
          Quote: Russ69
          It is not necessary to enter, it is enough to apply a few air strikes.

          Indeed, there may be a dozen Russian pilots who simply could not stand the nerves from such news - that they broke, violated discipline. Officially, they can even be punished ... not very much ... then someday ... if you remember ..
      5. +23
        3 July 2014 16: 41
        Ours again express only concern about what is happening.
        1. Andrey82
          +6
          3 July 2014 17: 14
          Quote: fox21h
          Ours again express only concern about what is happening.

          I would put the word Ours in quotation marks. These are not ours.
      6. European
        +39
        3 July 2014 16: 43
        The DPR militia commander Igor Strelkov clearly formulated in his address on June 3: “I don’t understand one thing: why it was possible, risking everything, to save several tens of thousands of Ossetian Kudar people I respect, immediately rushing to their aid, no matter what, but for months Now in Krasny Liman people are being shot right on the streets. In Zeleny Klin, at best, they are taken away in an unknown direction, and at worst, anyone who does not have a local residence permit is shot! despite the fact that our militias have all already retreated from there! This is not enough for military intervention? How many corpses are still needed to make a decision?
        1. Snipe
          +11
          3 July 2014 17: 01
          Solutions anyway will be gone ...
          1. Oleg89
            -1
            3 July 2014 18: 06
            All will be!!! A little more left .......
            1. Oleg amos
              -2
              3 July 2014 19: 21
              I hope the Lord will have mercy on New Russia and show his will, but He punishes her for something
        2. +14
          3 July 2014 17: 04
          Quote: European
          “I don’t understand one thing: why it was possible, risking everything, to save several tens of thousands of Ossetian-Kudar people, whom I respect, immediately rushing to their aid,

          Well, actually, let's do it more specifically.
          1. Ossetians with arms defended their independence and a peacekeeping contingent was introduced there
          2. Georgians attacked and killed the Russian peacekeeping contingent.
          I won’t talk about 3 and 4 ... you all yourself saw the reaction of Ukrainians to the events in Odessa very well, see how the miners worked / stop all the way .. how many of the miners joined the militia?
          Personally, I am against sending troops of the Russian Federation there .. whoever wants to let him go and can grab computers with tablets.
          And IMHA
          To quote Strelkov’s opinion and position and then tear the vest on himself .. this is hypocrisy .. it’s Strelkov who has the right to express his position and opinion in this vein ... because he is there and most members of the forum either at home or at work at the computer .. discusses sending real soldiers.
          1. +4
            3 July 2014 17: 31
            Quote: Scoun
            Ossetians with arms defended their independence
            Ossetians with Abkhazians received assistance from the Russian Federation. Novorossia receives assistance only from individuals and non-governmental organizations.
            Quote: Scoun
            Personally, I am against the entry of troops of the Russian Federation
            If something didn’t work out, it looks like the traditional position of our government. Previously, it was possible to localize the conflict by helping Novorossia. Many people on the forum shouted that help was being provided, thereby wishful thinking. Now it’s probably too late, only the introduction of troops can turn the tide. However, nothing will be done, the Kremlin has long since decided the fate of Novorossia-drain and betrayal.
        3. Associate Professor
          +3
          3 July 2014 17: 15
          Quote: European
          The commander of the DPR militia Igor Strelkov clearly formulated in his address on June 3: “I don’t understand one thing: why it was possible, risking everything, to save several tens of thousands of Ossetian Kudar people I respect, immediately rushing to their aid, no matter what, but for months to "bagpipes" urgently needed help to the Russians?

          Strelkov apparently forgot that Russian peacekeeping troops were killed in South Ossetia, which was the reason for that war.
          1. +5
            3 July 2014 17: 56
            Strelkov apparently forgot that Russian peacekeeping troops were killed in South Ossetia, which was the reason for that war.



            Apparently, many have forgotten that there are already a lot of reasons for which the United States would already have entered its troops being in place of Russia. Murders of Russian citizens, including journalists; the entry of tanks, planes and soldiers into the territory of Russia. The shelling of the Russian border. Is this not enough for a reason? For the United States this would be quite enough.
            1. Associate Professor
              +1
              3 July 2014 18: 25
              Quote: sinandju

              Apparently, many have forgotten that there are already a lot of reasons for which the United States would already have entered its troops being in place of Russia.

              Your USA, for which this would be enough, are trying hard to drag us into the war, to make us a party to the conflict (probably, they wish Russia well that they are trying so hard), and you suggest that we go along this path, like sheep. Well, smart, I don't argue
      7. Ural74
        +11
        3 July 2014 16: 54
        S. Lavrov (mass media) suggested that the militias stop the fire cover of Slavyansk, that is, lay down their arms at the mercy of the "winner" (in other words, surrender). What is still not clear to you?
        1. Associate Professor
          +2
          3 July 2014 17: 50
          Quote: Ural74
          S. Lavrov (mass media) suggested that the militias stop the fire cover of Slavyansk, that is, lay down their arms at the mercy of the "winner" (in other words, surrender). What is still not clear to you?

          It would be nice to lead the link, and not vote
      8. +12
        3 July 2014 16: 56
        our Commander-in-Chief is not conducting a provocation. And his nerves are strong. When I see a video of civilians killed and maimed, there’s a lump in my throat. And I always remember the slogan - We don’t leave our own. The clever plan seems to be how to throw your own in more careful way. Well, so that the rating does not fall and people do not lose faith. If only I was wrong! I also hope for something.
        1. Associate Professor
          -4
          3 July 2014 17: 53
          Quote: Dvm70
          our Commander-in-Chief is not conducting a provocation.

          And rightly so. It’s not necessary, like sheep, to follow the path that the Americans want us to lead.
          Quote: Dvm70
          We do not throw ours.
          But we didn’t abandon ours. In the Crimea, those who want to live in Russia and voted for it.
      9. +8
        3 July 2014 16: 58
        I can only say one thing: Russia will send troops ONLY THEN when the third package of sanctions from the EU and the United States is introduced against Russia.
        Only then, Russia will not be held back, that’s all.
        And as they say sorry we are busy.
        1. 0
          3 July 2014 17: 08
          I agree it is necessary to tangle and powder the brain. Current without blood in any way !!!!
        2. +6
          3 July 2014 17: 27
          Quote: Belarus
          I can only say one thing: Russia will send troops ONLY THEN when will the third package of sanctions from the EU and the United States be introduced against Russia.
          Only then, Russia will not be held back, that’s all.
          And as they say sorry we are busy.

          They have these packages of sanctions, heaps ...
          It was 2050. The EU and the United States introduced the 133rd package of sanctions against Russia.
        3. +6
          3 July 2014 17: 38
          Or maybe the fourth package of sanctions will wait?
      10. Andrenaline
        +8
        3 July 2014 17: 04
        Really played with impunity dill. Already not at all funny. Residential quarters, private houses, orphanage .... What next ???
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      13. edmaster
        -6
        3 July 2014 17: 15
        Historically, our Crimea - they entered it and did it right. Here is the territory of another state. It is necessary at least to introduce not Russian troops, but, for example, together with China ... but this is not real.
        1. +4
          3 July 2014 17: 52
          Quote: edmaster
          Historically, our Crimea - they entered it and did it right. Here is the territory of another state. It is necessary at least to introduce not Russian troops, but, for example, together with China ... but this is not real.

          You my friend obviously did not study history. Here on the site even laid out a map where our lands are historically and where the lands of another state. Russia is historically ours !!!!
          1. edmaster
            0
            6 July 2014 11: 24
            Clearly, but under Catherine II we conquered and rebuilt it, rebuilt and rebuilt it. Potemkin rebuilt it: Kherson, Sevastopol ... Isn't he ours? For some reason, it seemed appropriate to say so. From now on I will be more careful
        2. +4
          3 July 2014 17: 56
          Quote: edmaster
          Historically, our Crimea - they entered it and did it right. Here is the territory of another state.

          You will learn the story.
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      15. Stalker
        -2
        3 July 2014 17: 32
        I agree ! And whose children will we send? Your ?? . Do you agree ??
        For THIS (the language does not dare to call "this" - a man) - who has blood on his hands up to the elbows, and for whom human blood is like water, will have his own "debriefing".
        1. +10
          3 July 2014 17: 39
          Quote: Stalker
          whose hands are up to the elbow in the blood

          if Yanyk’s hands are up to the elbow (in whose blood? even the maydaun snipers were not hanged on him, the docs were documented, but the evidence was destroyed) then where is the egg and the parasite in the blood?
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          2. Stalker
            -1
            3 July 2014 17: 45
            if Yanyk’s hands are up to the elbow (in whose blood? even the maydaun snipers were not hanged on him, the docs were documented, but the evidence was destroyed) then where is the egg and the parasite in the blood?

            TOUCH WITH A FISHING HOOK ?? And in my Kursk region "2 (DVA) SONS SERVE !!!!!! WHAT YOU LEAVE .......................... ................... negative

            Another minus! CARS Change your nickname .... otherwise - As in the movie "Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors" Read your nickname in reverse .... hi

            Putting me minus you Kars - (if you read it the other way around) you wish them to die ... 777 SO GOES OUT ????
            1. +6
              3 July 2014 18: 00
              Quote: Stalker
              HIT THE FISHING HOOK ??

              there is some
              Quote: Stalker
              And I have in the Kursk region "SERVICE 2 (DVA) SON

              and what? when you sent them to the army didn’t know what the army is? and why it? Why don’t I serve in the army and I don’t get money for risk and early retirement.
              At the same time, I am against the introduction of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine.

              Quote: Stalker
              Still minus!

              I personally have not yet minus.
              Quote: Stalker
              Read your nickname the other way around
              Why should I do this?
              By the way, didn’t you answer the direct question? Yanyk was even shy about delivering full-time machine guns to an armored personnel carrier in Kiev, and here the Tornadoes are beating.
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              2. Stalker
                0
                3 July 2014 18: 03
                THEY OFFICERS AIRCRAFT ...... hi
                1. +7
                  3 July 2014 18: 20
                  Quote: Stalker
                  THEY OFFICERS AIRCRAFT ...

                  also officers? then I don’t understand what they are doing in the army, I thought you were worried about your sons conscripts taken by the military registration and enlistment office for military service.
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                  2. Stalker
                    0
                    3 July 2014 23: 01
                    I thought you were worried about sons conscripts taken by the military registration and enlistment office for military service.

                    They are all my sons are not related so by age ....
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              4. Stalker
                -1
                3 July 2014 18: 06
                I personally have not yet minus. ... Tady "OH" !!! I love you too .... hi
      16. +1
        3 July 2014 17: 34
        Lugansk-Donetsk-Slavyansk between themselves can not figure out who is commanding where to send troops then?
        To establish a no-fly zone and to accumulate Ukrainian armored vehicles in these areas to deliver strikes with all available types of weapons, if it is possible they will be more consensual and sit at the negotiating table, especially slaughtering PMCs and Nagadas. Where the positions of the artillery and the defense center are not a secret how and where the columns form the assault. And let the Foreign Ministry all NAGLOUS and Cynically denies.
      17. +14
        3 July 2014 17: 38
        Quote: Megatron
        It is necessary to send troops!

        Here is what sounded back on March 4:
        It was yesterday 02.07.2014:
        What else should happen? City, Tornadoes, Hurricanes destroy the population of New Russia.
        Where is the promised protection? Again a cunning plan: "Until everyone is killed", and then, as with Libya: "We were deceived, we did not think that this would happen"?
        1. Associate Professor
          -4
          3 July 2014 18: 01
          He did not say there about the deployment of troops. He only said that Russia reserves the right to use all available means. To reserve the right does not mean to use. If it sees fit, use. Let's close the topic
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        3. Stalker
          +3
          3 July 2014 18: 33
          Send videos and appeals to the website of the President of Russia. If someone does not piss ... Here is the address! (I already sent). The answer will come in shifts to everyone ... (http://letters.kremlin.ru/send-claim) Well ?? Write, patriots .... hi
        4. +1
          3 July 2014 22: 42
          Quote: Little Muck
          Where is the promised protection? Again a tricky plan:


          And put it all at once. I spread it, civilians are evacuated so that they don’t get kneaded when they start to iron all those ukrobands pulled in one place. formations to cover all at once. Ammunition from banderlogs is being spent, they are unlikely to be able to answer, and their escape routes need to be closed. So do not whine, and if you can’t wait for Putin’s answer, go volunteers. Soon the feast of Peter and Paul, it all ends, not in favor of banderlog.
      18. lenamir
        -1
        3 July 2014 17: 45
        we will survive, but our liberalists and aligarchs are not !!! they bind the hands of GDP.
        1. Stalker
          +1
          3 July 2014 18: 38
          we will survive, but our liberalists and aligarchs are not !!! they bind the hands of GDP.

          For a long time they do not tie their hands and sing along to him !!!!
      19. 0
        3 July 2014 17: 59
        The fascists of Ukraine turned around on a large scale to destroy the Russians. It’s time to already give them a snot.
      20. Ujin61
        0
        3 July 2014 18: 18
        Read Strelkov’s reviews and look at the map. In general, how did the journalists get there? Nikolaevka was surrounded by lunch. Motorola was there (in Nikolaevka.)
      21. +4
        3 July 2014 18: 21
        Quote: Megatron
        It is necessary to send troops! Yes, and to hell with them, with the sanctions, survive! But people die every day!

        And some in Russia count the profits and rejoice: it turned out for him! They say they will wear out and endure. And on TV pasku ... yes, some next one will convince the USA that the kirdyk came from the "wisdom" of the Russian authorities ... I could imagine anything: a global flood, an asteroid will fall, a super volcano eruption ... But I didn't think that such a shame will have to slurp! What sanctions on x..r will compare? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
      22. +2
        3 July 2014 18: 26
        Putin leaked the campaign Novorossia ........
        Pin.dosov scared ..... All Volodya count one voter you lost. Sold like the rest ......
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      24. +1
        3 July 2014 18: 49
        How many soldiers and strategists per square meter divorced. Provocateurs and alarmists were shot during the war, and they did it right, especially with a dozen recently registered provocateurs I would have shot with a clear conscience. The Americans are planning for years to come, and then a dozen trolls, and already the people of Putin decided to overthrow. Not much is needed by some. Sad
        1. +2
          3 July 2014 19: 15
          How many soldiers and strategists per square meter divorced. Provocateurs and alarmists were shot during the war, and they did it right, especially with a dozen recently registered provocateurs I would have shot with a clear conscience. The Americans are planning for years to come, and then a dozen trolls, and already the people of Putin decided to overthrow. Not much is needed by some. Sad


          Here, many consider themselves smarter than all the advisers and the whole team of our president, as well as intelligence, counterintelligence and other specialized services (which, I am sure, do not eat their bread for nothing, and often risk their lives for the country). We must not forget that there is a war. Sometimes secretive, but very cruel. The price of this war is the fate of peoples. And we must not forget that in every war there are victories (Chechnya 1999-2001, Georgia 08.08.08, Syria, Crimea), armistice and defeat. If our grandfathers scolded Stalin so for the defeats of 1941-1942, the country would not have existed for a long time. So you need to be able to endure and wait. And most importantly, believe in our common victory!
      25. +3
        3 July 2014 19: 01
        It is necessary to send troops! Yes, and to hell with them, with the sanctions, survive! But people die every day!


        And with whom are you going to fight? With an army of a sovereign state? With 50% of duped Ukrainians, for whom we are aggressors? You count how many people are in the militia! From all of Donbass, 6-7-10 thousand ??? Where are the military? Where is the police? Never in the whole history has Russia fought with Ukraine! Do not be this! This will never be forgotten. Our Supreme understands this perfectly. Nobody called and calls us there, except for the rebellious Southeast! We are not welcome there. Russia is not an occupier. We have always been a people - liberator and protector! We have been molested by Ukrainians since Otto von Bismarck. And now climb into this loop yourself? The people of Ukraine themselves must first see clearly. Apparently, negotiations are the best that is possible today ...
      26. +3
        3 July 2014 19: 23
        Quote: Megatron
        It is necessary to send troops!

        Do not!
        Need to bomb!
        Little by little yes and at night, but much!
        1. +1
          3 July 2014 21: 27
          Need to bomb!
          Quietly and at night, but much!


          The Ukrov pseudo-army has been bombing for 2 months. And not quietly. Only everything turns out for some reason civil. You can’t take bad examples!
      27. -1
        3 July 2014 19: 37
        for a long time it might at least have ceased to be a truce would immediately announce ukrovoyaki
      28. irat
        0
        3 July 2014 22: 56
        Why the Russian authorities do not protect SE? The answer lies on the surface.
        It must be remembered that in Russia and the future Novorossiya two different, fundamentally hostile socio-economic formations. DPR and LPR are the People's (!) Republics.
        Russia, although socialist consciousness still sits in the minds of many ordinary citizens, is now a capitalist country where the ruling elite is obliged to serve the interests of capital, i.e. the oligarchs and not the people. This is the law and it cannot be otherwise! And when in any capitalist country the authorities say at elections: "We are with the people!" is, in essence, PR. Under capitalism, the people are little people who can be foolish, playing on patriotic feelings, sometimes throwing a dice so that they do not raise uprisings. Capitalism is the art of balancing between revolution and the possibility of further enrichment of an insignificant part of the population.
      29. 0
        4 July 2014 14: 26
        You noticed that they were guarded by shelling. there wasn’t even a point of a Foreign Ministry note. The state, if it introduces, is only where it is needed.
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    2. Oleg amos
      +21
      3 July 2014 16: 32
      Hmm, how is our Mr. Cunning Plan!
      There is only one reason why troops are not being brought in; this is betrayal!
      1. -17
        3 July 2014 16: 36
        There is only one reason why troops are not being brought in; this is betrayal!


        There is only one reason why you are still not in Slavyansk - this is betrayal.
        1. Oleg amos
          -1
          3 July 2014 16: 39
          And will you feed my family while I’ll fight?
          1. +12
            3 July 2014 17: 07
            Quote: Oleg Amos
            And will you feed my family while I’ll fight?

            wassat Do you feed the Motorola family? Do you feed the Streltsov family? That's right .. your shirt is closer to your body right? and send others - you can find a thousand reasons right? This is a hypocritical position.
          2. 2014videonew
            +9
            3 July 2014 17: 11
            And will you feed the families of our fallen soldiers if troops are brought in?
            1. +5
              3 July 2014 18: 12
              How much is Iskander’s range, 500 kilometers, does religion interfere with putting a few pieces on Karachun? Religion also does not allow groups to cover the groups standing near Izvarino and Karlovka, this is enough for the militia to gain an advantage and not need any troops.
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        2. +16
          3 July 2014 16: 41
          There is only one reason why you are still not in Slavyansk - this is betrayal.
          If you are in Slavyansk with a gun - you have the right to speak in this way, if on the "couch" - you are worth a penny! By the way, I looked at your publications / 5 /. Smart, good. All the more, should you, a man who is apparently wise, should be ashamed now ... which is better - a mind or a hot, sensitive, caring heart? I think you are wrong ...
          1. Oleg amos
            +6
            3 July 2014 16: 50
            I perceive all this as for myself, if I hadn’t had a family, I pulled to Slavyansk today
            1. 0
              4 July 2014 03: 16
              But Strelkov is not hiding behind his family. Although he also has it. You have already been answered whether you’ll carry a funeral. And will you also support the families of our fallen soldiers? And will you also pay salaries to state employees, benefits for large families, pensions for the elderly, when state revenues will fall due to sanctions?
              However, the problem is not even in families, and not in money or funerals. The problem is that during the war you shit on the commander-in-chief, questioning his actions. What was it during the Second World War? Just look at the example of Solzhenitsyr. This is, so to speak, the "light" version, the war was already over.
          2. +5
            3 July 2014 17: 18
            Yes, not a patriot. it was I who felt sick. current in Ryazan is already refugees and it’s not only women and children that are men !!! What the hell are they telling me here !!!!
          3. +1
            4 July 2014 03: 09
            If you are in Slavyansk with a gun - you have the right to speak in this way, if on the "couch" - you are worth a penny!


            I don't see the connection. I don’t shout "Putin, send troops" sitting on the couch myself. I consistently try to explain that we are going the other way. And to explain "why" this path was chosen. And there is no such thing as to be pointed out to me where my reasoning is not correct. But the mantra "Putin bring in the troops" is repeated over and over.
            And I believe that if you yourself are not there, then you have no right to push anyone there.
            In the end, you need to understand that this is a war. And in Novorossiya - the front, and in Russia, while the rear. In 41, civilians also perished in the front line. so that Stalin needed to throw under-formed and untrained divisions to the front to save them, so that the Germans would grind them down, instead of getting ready and fighting back at Moscow? And how would the war end then? If there is a problem with associations, type "Vyazma devastation" in Yandex.
            Why does every couch fighter think that he knows better than VVP what to do? Does he have all the information? He can’t even understand who was seizing the "Demon" or "heaven" UMVD in Donetsk. But at the same time he teaches VVP that it is necessary to send troops.
            1. 0
              4 July 2014 15: 19
              Actually, I didn’t mean the article, but your statement to a private person from the forum
              [/ b] There is only one reason why you are still not in Slavyansk - this is betrayal [b] [/ b]

              Why sharpness?
        3. +2
          3 July 2014 16: 56
          Even if he doesn’t betray, he won’t save. The victim is meaningless. It seems that you have something with the logic, like the Ukrainians. I understand that hope dies last.
        4. -6
          3 July 2014 17: 02
          Do you write it yourself from Slavyansk? There are a lot of people who want to go there, just don't want to die with a Kalash under a tank or from aircraft. The fussy one will not help already. They are already smacking on our territory, they have humiliated Rashka in full. Guardian of the Russians))) The genocide is going on in full, and with him all through the lips of Lavrov "concern is expressed", that is, impotence. After such a betrayal, Putin-PT (political corpse).
          1. -1
            3 July 2014 17: 27
            And you take the car or pitchfork and forward. why are you crying, I'll regret it, maybe it will become easier for you.
          2. SSR
            0
            3 July 2014 22: 18
            Quote: Antitolerast
            Do you write it yourself from Slavyansk? There are a lot of people who want to go there, just don't want to die with a Kalash under a tank or from aircraft. The fussy one will not help already. They are already smacking on our territory, they have humiliated Rashka in full. Guardian of the Russians))) The genocide is going on in full, and with him all through the lips of Lavrov "concern is expressed", that is, impotence. After such a betrayal, Putin-PT (political corpse).

            Silly, emotional ****** post. Tell us how the militias burned tanks and burned almost all of the Banderlog aviation? Probably with your "abstruse whining" what kind of tolerant you are, ala antitolerast, paper you will not give out a soft three-layer? Do you want to die with a Kalash? Tell this to those who with artillery and aviation in Syria, Libya died, tell this to those who with flails on the Maidan beat their own Berkut, maimed with flails and burned them with fuel ... This is how people who are more motivated even with a hundred bucks break people like you, others do not badabols like you, take ingenuity and skill, and if not .... Then they do not try like you are claudia-troll-warrior of Level 89. Wipe your nose with a humiliator for a start, great humiliator of Raska. Have you humiliated "Rashka" or have you been shitty?
        5. Ural74
          +3
          3 July 2014 17: 22
          Aligate, and you are already in Slavyansk?
          1. 0
            4 July 2014 03: 18
            If the question is for me, then no. But I do not urge anyone to enter there, at least, except for those who are already there on duty.
      2. Anton-sed
        +3
        3 July 2014 16: 39
        Long overdue!
      3. +19
        3 July 2014 16: 52
        Quote: Oleg Amos
        Hmm, how is our Mr. Cunning Plan!
        There is only one reason why troops are not being brought in; this is betrayal!

        Remember the beginning of World War I? It seems they did not betray. But in the end? Millions of those who died with the transition to the revolution, civil war, etc. You can shout, send troops, etc. Only I still don’t see unity in New Russia. I don’t even know what Putin thinks, but you must admit that he has all the cards in his hands ...
        1. Oleg amos
          +4
          3 July 2014 17: 06
          I’m already tired of writing, this is space nonsense, Germany wanted to attack, she found a reason, even if we hadn’t defended Serbia, even a word was sent for excuse, here the Ukrainians have a real reason for Crimea, but as we see ...
          1. +1
            4 July 2014 03: 21
            Yes, this is nonsense you write. The Germans peacefully began to roll the Angles economically into a pancake. Why were they fighting? For overseas colonies? So they have not mastered their own. And in all the English and Frankish traded and local crowded. It was just the Nuggets Saxons who had to stop the Germans. It didn’t work economically, I had to fight, But it was scary for ourselves, that’s led us into it.
        2. +6
          3 July 2014 17: 14
          I strongly agree. It is not the Novorossians who are fighting, but mostly Russian volunteers for them. Something is not visible "Crimean" unanimity and tens of thousands of volunteers at the points of registration in the militia. For whom to send troops? It is clear that fluff and feathers will fly from ukrov, but it will be a full-fledged occupation with all that it implies. And Putin, I think, knows and weighs all this, and therefore wants to figure it out for themselves. Read the history of the Spanish Civil War.
          The people did not support the government, and the putschists won, no matter what, for help with volunteers and weapons, the inter-brigades fought there, in reality, it’s tens of thousands of volunteers. The longer the war lasts, the stronger the dill army is strengthened, simply by virtue of the instinct of self-preservation.
          1. Valentine
            +1
            3 July 2014 20: 22
            Do not smack nonsense. In our Snezhyansk garrison (Snezhnoye, Torez, Shakhtyorsk) there are about ten Russians. There are more from Kharkov. Those who want to fight the shaft. Pont weapons. At the checkpoint for eight people - three machine guns. On some posts with PPSh stand. On the Saur grave every day, a hundred mines and shells lay down, there is nothing to answer. So far, they have not seriously attacked. And if they trample like in Nikolaevka, what will we keep - two zushas? And by the way, I’ll tell you a secret that the weapons that come to us from Russia, Ossetia and Abkhazia are not given in vain, they are PURCHASED. FOR MONEY. And you say help ...
        3. +3
          3 July 2014 17: 48
          Before World War I, the state was not healthy. Now it’s also sick. It’s necessary to somehow get the country out of the impasse and quickly. The oligarchs must be answered!
      4. Associate Professor
        +2
        3 July 2014 17: 20
        Quote: Oleg Amos
        Hmm, how is our Mr. Cunning Plan!

        When did Putin tell you about the "cunning plan"? The whole plan is to create a combat-ready militia in Ukraine, which itself will fight for its country.
    3. +12
      3 July 2014 16: 33
      This is the finish of the junta, reckoning on the heels of the Nazis. Lord, save and save the soldiers and civilians ....
      1. Oleg amos
        +2
        3 July 2014 16: 34
        We still have a lot of notes left!
        1. +10
          3 July 2014 16: 50
          no, the song is sung. Russia has not experienced such a shame for a long time. And the entire paper army.
    4. +9
      3 July 2014 16: 33
      war in the city full atas remember the first assault on Grozny Stalingrad
    5. +9
      3 July 2014 16: 33
      Slavic kept New Russia!
    6. Drunya
      -7
      3 July 2014 16: 34
      NUUUU now the miners will stand up. no
      1. European
        +55
        3 July 2014 16: 40
        Of course they will stand up. The alarm clock will ring, they will stand up, they will drink a seagull and trample for coal in the mines of Kolomoisky.
        1. 0
          3 July 2014 18: 44
          Coal is to Akhmetov, Kolomoisky for metal, so this is a somewhat erroneous statement on your part.
      2. +1
        3 July 2014 17: 30
        doggy style
    7. +19
      3 July 2014 16: 34
      Yes ... These are not mountains and forests. Partisanism is not involved. Or on a shield or with a shield. Sorry there is no help ...
      1. -3
        3 July 2014 16: 48
        It does not seem to be. The blood of New Russia is not on Parash, but on Putin
        1. +5
          3 July 2014 17: 43
          The blood of Novorosiya is not on Putin, but on the inhabitants of Novorossia itself, who did not want to defend their choice.
          Why was the referendum held? What would then sit at home and groan Russia save.
          Why do almost all those who voted "for" stay at home, go to work, rest, because even if half of the men went to the militia, they would have been independent and free long ago.

          They help someone who does something himself, and does not sit with beer on the couch and asks when they will save him.
    8. +4
      3 July 2014 16: 36
      The time will come, they will answer for everything.
      1. +4
        3 July 2014 16: 58
        When will it come?
        1. +1
          3 July 2014 18: 47
          All the same, they will be written off as a expense, such is the fate of all those who conducted the revolution in all countries, dividends are already being received by others, and they have nothing to do with the Natsiks, the Moor has done his job. The Moor must leave.
    9. +5
      3 July 2014 16: 38

      Lightning from Strelkova: an armored column broke into Nikolaevka, Motorola is fighting
      A fresh video appeared on the Internet in which a large convoy of Ukrainian armored vehicles travels along Krasniy Liman, users counted 16 infantry fighting vehicles, 4 tanks and 11 military trucks. Igor Strelkov commented on the current situation and the column.
      4 tank, 16 infantry fighting vehicle, 2 IMR, 8 trucks, 1 RShM "Forty"? 2 120-mm mortar. A platoon of tanks and a motorized rifle company with reinforcements.
      This is either to us, or to Mozgovoy under Rubezhnoye. But most likely to us: they will pass along the pontoon bridge over Krivaya Luka and will come from the southeast from Slavyansk.
      But this is still a "small" column. Here we have 50-60 armored units with hundreds of trucks and a couple of dozens of guns and self-propelled guns ... But it gives an idea of ​​how to fight the militia with them.
      I recommend to anyone who criticizes the militia for "passivity", etc., look at the record and take into account that in this single column of armored vehicles there are exactly four times more than in our entire brigade ...
      12: 30 (Kiev), 13: 30 (Moscow time) The armored column ukrov broke into Nikolaevka. There is a battle.
      13: 37 (Moscow time) At the moment, "Motorola" is fighting twice as less forces than were the day before yesterday. But I believe in him.

      http://rusvesna.su/news/1404379851

      The former chief of the General Staff - the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Mikhail Kutsin was shell-shocked on Wednesday in the area of ​​the ATO. This was stated by President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, speaking today in the Verkhovna Rada.
      "I would like to express my gratitude to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Mikhail Kutsin, who was shell-shocked yesterday during the hostilities in the anti-terrorist operation zone and is now in the hospital with a concussion. Thank you, Mr. General, for your service," he said ...
      Recall that today Lieutenant General Viktor Muzhenko is appointed the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      http://twower.livejournal.com/1354800.html
      1. -1
        3 July 2014 17: 45
        It remains to hope and believe. Someone so far.
    10. Maksim...
      +5
      3 July 2014 16: 39
      According to some reports, "Smerchi" were working on high-rise buildings.
    11. +19
      3 July 2014 16: 42
      The use of MLRS in a populated city is already a war crime in itself!
      1. +19
        3 July 2014 16: 52
        Quote: Megatron
        The use of MLRS in a populated city is a war crime in itself

        Everyone does not care, the State Department will cover, ours will wipe ...
        Last time, it was so embarrassing for the country in the 90s. When they wiped their feet about us, they feel like it. I didn’t expect that the same feelings will be in 2014, and even after the Crimea ...
    12. +7
      3 July 2014 16: 42
      03.07.2014/15/42, XNUMX:XNUMX (Moscow time) Message from I.I. Strelkov

      "Today, more than 20 RPG-18s did not work for us ... stock from Ukrainian warehouses ... As a result, the enemy did not lose a single armored unit at the entrance to Nikolaevka. They just laughed at our soldiers ... They entered the city with one armor - no infantry at all ... As if they know that we have nothing to shoot with ... "Machete" - the commander of the garrison is seriously wounded. "

      (About Motorola) "While he remained in position. But the garrison of Nikolaevka has already been cut off."
      1. +2
        3 July 2014 18: 10
        Something didn't work much. Is there no setup here?
    13. potap48a
      +7
      3 July 2014 16: 43
      there is only one way out - we must go into the partisans and engage in sabotage and subversive activities throughout the territory of Hohland, as the Irish Republican army did. blowing up everything and everywhere should become their slogan !!!!
      1. +2
        3 July 2014 16: 54
        Quote: potap48
        blowing up everything and everywhere should become their slogan !!!!

        What the heresy? These will be real terrorist attacks. Militias and so called terrorists, although they did not make a single terrorist attack, but they are called so BANDEREVSY!
      2. +1
        3 July 2014 18: 15
        Without popular support, guerrilla warfare is meaningless.
    14. +21
      3 July 2014 16: 44
      Yes, here you just have to be an iron man in order to digest reports from New Russia!
      But a couple of months ago, tell someone what is happening now and how the Russian Federation is responding to all this - well, no one would have believed! Conclusion - the audience can be brought to any scenario, only time and desire are needed. I do not know what to say! Of course, the majority will wait and hope that Tsar-Batyushka will come at the last minute and save all the survivors, and the Basurman will punish and drive away the enemies. But I'm afraid that this is only the middle of a scary movie.
      And it will take a long time for us to get used to even more terrible nightmares. I would very much like to hope that those who show us this "movie" themselves know its ending.
      1. +8
        3 July 2014 16: 56
        Quote: Valter1364
        Yes, here you just have to be an iron man in order to digest reports from New Russia!

        And what should one be to hold TAM and protect it?
        1. +4
          3 July 2014 16: 58
          Eh, friend, ask something simpler.
    15. +1
      3 July 2014 16: 45
      It would bring down the themis of justice to lawless people and adventurers with force majeure, so that from this power everyone would have primitive horror.
      1. +9
        3 July 2014 16: 54
        Our Themis is rotten and corrupt. In the vast majority of cases, it effectively works only for itself and for bribes. You can put cons, but this is a stubborn fact! And therefore, in this matter - not an assistant!
    16. Stypor23
      +2
      3 July 2014 16: 45
      Very soon, at least Kiev will explode, and not from the use of equipment and aircraft.
      1. DPZ
        0
        3 July 2014 17: 32
        fantasies? or do you have real confirmation of your words?
        1. Stypor23
          0
          3 July 2014 19: 03
          If I had real confirmations, you still wouldn’t know nifiga. I proceed from the fact that sooner or later, those who are killing relatives, friends, relatives, and dead Russians will want to throw an answer to the aggressors. And then everyone who bombed, killed and tortured them will get what they deserve.
    17. +4
      3 July 2014 16: 46
      http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1646003.html
      Here the information is fresh, always.
      1. +2
        3 July 2014 17: 07
        A few more videos.

        http://cassad.net/tv/

        03.07.2014 Morning in Severodonetsk
        Morning in Severodonetsk - a column of militia equipment leaves for the front line.
        04: 40 03 / 07 / 2014 Interviews a cleaning lady bombed a school, Kramatorsk
        00: 38 03 / 07 / 2014 MILITARY PEOPLE SHOOT UKRAINIAN TANK AT POSITIONS UNDER LUHAN
        01: 24 03 / 07 / 2014 Audio recording of a conversation of pilots before hitting Lisichansk The goal I see, attacking - audio recording of negotiations of the pilot who bombed Lisichansk 02 / 07 / 2014
    18. +2
      3 July 2014 16: 46
      and we are all silent, the order is already enraging it all ..
      amid the fact that the new Minister of Defense Ukrov said that he will hold a Victory Parade in SEVASTOPOL !!!!
      HOW TO YOU?
      S.U.K. And yellow-blakitnye ...
      1. -1
        3 July 2014 16: 56
        Black and white
        Ah, yes the same ordinary, homogeneous gratitude speeches ... so remind the promises of deputies in the elections ... boring ... :-)
    19. Vtel
      +8
      3 July 2014 16: 47
      God save the warrior Igor and others like him warriors and civilians! So, to the noise of notes and meetings, Russia will be merged - 1917 Kerensky and his Duma.
    20. +19
      3 July 2014 16: 47
      if Strelkov is killed, I will never forgive Putin and his gang
      1. +12
        3 July 2014 16: 49
        Quote: divangeneral
        I will never forgive Putin and his gang

        Putin has already done almost everything to consider him a traitor ...
        1. +3
          3 July 2014 17: 06
          Quote: Russ69
          Quote: divangeneral
          I will never forgive Putin and his gang

          Putin has already done almost everything to consider him a traitor ...

          No, I haven’t done everything yet - it remains to send a note of protest
    21. Arh
      +8
      3 July 2014 16: 47
      I can’t watch how people die, the Russian Federation can lead troops at least peacekeeping !!!
    22. -1
      3 July 2014 16: 48
      A couple change their avatar, for a portrait of Putin, with the inscription "TRAITOR" on the forehead ...
      1. +1
        3 July 2014 18: 41
        Quote: Russ69
        A couple change their avatar, for a portrait of Putin, with the inscription "TRAITOR" on the forehead ...

        Somehow you remind me of Tobaccos more and more ... Hysteria seems to be not a masculine quality ?! If your opinion does not coincide with the opinion of the President, then this does not mean at all that the last traitor ... Yours faithfully ...
    23. +3
      3 July 2014 16: 48
      Before blaming the Homeland for what it did not do for you, think about what you did for the Homeland. (On the entry of troops by Putin)
      1. +13
        3 July 2014 16: 55
        Quote: dr.star75
        (On the entry of troops by Putin)

        Why is it always taken an extreme measure, like the introduction of troops? Were there no other ways to help and stop the bloodshed?
        1. iung
          +4
          3 July 2014 17: 01
          yes this is the simplest wiring and manipulation scheme
        2. 0
          3 July 2014 17: 03
          For example: bombed on someone else’s territory? About all other types of assistance, I think you see on TV (downed planes, wrecked armored vehicles)
        3. +3
          3 July 2014 17: 10
          There are many ways: the introduction of a no-fly zone, several point strikes by iskanders .... but this is not
      2. 0
        3 July 2014 17: 07
        the question is so stupid that I do not want to answer it.
      3. 0
        3 July 2014 17: 39
        I agree completely, it would be nice at first to serve the Motherland before demanding, it pleases that young people become more conscious than those who slouched from the army in the 90s ..
    24. +2
      3 July 2014 16: 49
      But the victory parade of the Ukrainian army in Sevastopol is still very far away. He promised it. new Ukrainian defense minister. Let Slavyansk be finished first. There is still time to watch football without worrying.
      1. +3
        3 July 2014 16: 52
        nothing. apparently Putin and Sevastopol surrender!
      2. +2
        3 July 2014 16: 54
        He was not the first to "organize" parades in Russian cities. Well at least he didn't set the exact date for the parade, he insured himself. negative
    25. +6
      3 July 2014 16: 49
      So the scribe came!
    26. +2
      3 July 2014 16: 51
      I grieve! In Washington, probably, today there will be a salute for this occasion. Well, nothing, there will be a holiday on our street.
    27. -1
      3 July 2014 16: 51
      they handed over Novorossia, the financial elites agreed to see it, they do not care about the nation, each nation has the president that it deserves, we have Putin, in the face of a difficult decision and intimidation of the West, he showed what it costs and who really controls it.
    28. -2
      3 July 2014 16: 52
      Quote: Oleg Amos
      Hmm, how is our Mr. Cunning Plan!
      There is only one reason why troops are not being brought in; this is betrayal!

      Exactly so. Those who demand the introduction of troops either d..u.r..ak or a traitor. The introduction of troops is exactly what the West pushes us to provoke by any means. The introduction of Russia will write off all the crimes of the junta, this will be a betrayal.
      1. +4
        3 July 2014 16: 53
        at least it was necessary to help with heavy weapons !!!!!!
        1. Stypor23
          +1
          3 July 2014 17: 06
          Such as Arkasha Dvorkovich and above, will not give an order to provide tacit assistance. The council daily wage will be transferred to accounts (like spitting in a soup) and then they will be shown such news by their handsome men. They’ll throw a cry all over the country about the need to collect humanitarian aid AND STOP
      2. volkodav
        +1
        3 July 2014 18: 08
        Enough of building strategists here, you just picked up this excuse - the West is pushing us to do this, we will not succumb to this provocation! Yes, you yourself d.u.r.a.k. and gentlemen ury patriots, look around, and think about what kind of war there could be if we sent troops there? No way, the disarmament of the Ukrainian army and the dispersal of gangs of oligarchs, and you’re even cowards who will not fight with the regular army
    29. +14
      3 July 2014 16: 54
      Appeal of militias to the airborne troops of Ukraine. Xnumx
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    31. pp-2000
      +3
      3 July 2014 16: 56
      gentlemen couch warriors machine guns in the teeth and in SLAVYANSK
      1. +8
        3 July 2014 17: 27
        Quote: pp-2000
        gentlemen couch warriors assault rifles

        Gentlemen of sofa licks! not a step back. More posts about the "Cunning Plan", the Great Geochess Game, which has no analogues to the wisdom of the Leader. Don't let the Savior's rating fall.
        1. +2
          3 July 2014 18: 43
          Quote: Karabin

          Gentlemen of sofa licks! not a step back. More posts about the "Cunning Plan", the Great Geochess Game, which has no analogues to the wisdom of the Leader. Don't let the Savior's rating fall.

          The carbine is just super. good
    32. iung
      +5
      3 July 2014 16: 58
      It is unfortunate that not many of the worthy men will survive in this meat grinder. I want to remind many of those present here that Vysotsky’s song about a giraffe. With such concepts as those above, they know everything better and as it should, and it’s not worth going to the polls.
    33. +13
      3 July 2014 17: 00
      And remember when it all started, how many commentators drew a "red line" - well, if the Ukrainians use armored vehicles, this will be the "last straw", well, if they use aviation, then an adequate response will follow, well, if they use hail, then it will be a kapets. And nothing happened.
    34. Gexzloy
      -13
      3 July 2014 17: 01
      Dear forum users, what do you think, what should the junta do after the referendum in the Donbass?
      1. +6
        3 July 2014 17: 07
        Quote from GexZloy
        Dear forum users, what do you think, what should the junta do after the referendum in the Donbass?

        Long and hard to negotiate, but not to fight and destroy the people, which she considers her ...
        1. DPZ
          +4
          3 July 2014 17: 39
          she does not consider him her own. she considers her territory!
      2. Oleg amos
        +1
        3 July 2014 17: 14
        Lightning: Russia used secret weapons against the junta: NMKL -navo throwing complex Lavrov
      3. avt
        +4
        3 July 2014 17: 30
        Quote from GexZloy
        Dear forum users, what do you think, what should the junta do after the referendum in the Donbass?

        As the owner who brought her to power told her, she did so and nothing else. I wrote already - even Pavlov's experimental dogs at the level of reflexes would already know who is in the house, well, on the territory of the Ukraine 1991 project, the owner said. that Yaytsenyukh should be prime minister, and Klitschko is a point with the entire European Union - get it, the CIA director arrived - Trupchinov started the war, Biden came to see how his son was doing, get a new round of war, they said that Porosenko would be president - a woman with a scythe was excited by the Maidan, however, Madeleine Albright arrived with brooches and placed everyone in the corners, now Keri called Piglet - get the new Minister of Defense, who decided not to sign any documents on the campaign - he’s pissing, so they will be judged later and doesn’t leave the documents, he leads with a pen with an uncaped cap on paper. what to guess then? Everything is known in advance.
      4. 0
        3 July 2014 18: 16
        Quote from GexZloy
        What do you think, what should the junta do after the referendum in the Donbass?

        Good question. In any case, do not bomb your own cities (the junta does not recognize the LPR). Do not repeat Yeltsin’s experience in Chechnya.
      5. +4
        3 July 2014 18: 21
        The junta had to do what the creator and investor ordered her. She (the junta) and performs the program laid down in her. fool
      6. 0
        3 July 2014 22: 54
        Quote from GexZloy
        Dear forum users, what do you think, what should the junta do after the referendum in the Donbass?


        What should the residents of Donbass have to do when the paid bunch of criminals, fag *** owls and fuckers on the skull of the earhooks seized power by force and plunged the country into chaos?
      7. 11111mail.ru
        0
        5 July 2014 18: 45
        Quote from GexZloy
        What do you think, what should the junta do after the referendum in the Donbass?

        Believe to hang yourself.
    35. storm wind
      +14
      3 July 2014 17: 02
      You know men - it’s not we who leaked New Russia and not even the sluggish position of our authorities! And almost complete indifference and indifference on the part of the local population. As there was no mass !!! in the militia, in general no mass character - and no! If there were a weapon, rise a few thousand soyens, but alas .. Strelkov repeatedly said this !!! Nobody, with rare exceptions, wants to fight - because they can kill! And those who fight urgently need to move on to a guerrilla-sabotage war. Direct clashes are simply fatal. And we have refugees and their benefits, etc., etc.
      1. +5
        3 July 2014 17: 15
        I agree! And they still require the Russian troops to enter!
        1. Oleg amos
          0
          3 July 2014 17: 23
          But who feeds the militias, who provides the city, and who feeds their families?
          1. +1
            3 July 2014 17: 53
            Take any city and see how many people work for life support, of which more than 50% of women (the so-called who feeds) the rest are soldiers or deserters.
      2. +4
        3 July 2014 18: 13
        The bottom line, it is true, is that local men hide in the cellars at the sound of a siren, chew snot and advocate: "maybe it will resolve." While this situation takes place, they will be smashed, cut, raped. And Strelkov and his heroic guys can do little. soldier
      3. +3
        3 July 2014 18: 13
        Quote: Storm Wind
        indifference on the part of the local population

        Already in the first days of the Second World War, military commissariats of Leningrad could not cope with the number of residents who wanted to join the militia. They took not only rifles, but also shovels, built fortifications. What about Odessa? The German was near Moscow, and Odessa was holding on! Everyone fought, including women! What about the partisan movement? But in Slavyansk this is not. Russia must protect us. They think so, apparently.
      4. +1
        3 July 2014 18: 18
        Quote: Storm Wind
        There would be a weapon rise a few thousand soyens, but alas ..

        It wouldn’t be found, do not build illusions, you are fascinated by the magic of large numbers, there they are due to the fact that they are fighting with junk they could not stop the armored column
      5. +1
        3 July 2014 18: 26
        Partisan war without the support of the population is meaningless!
    36. +3
      3 July 2014 17: 03
      Quote: pp-2000
      gentlemen couch warriors machine guns in the teeth and in SLAVYANSK

      it’s really easier to talk than to do, who wanted to be there
      1. +6
        3 July 2014 17: 10
        and you don’t get fooled by such nonsense, there are not people with machine guns not people with machine guns needed, but a reliable rear and heavy equipment. Read the statements of Strelkov and you will understand what they needed already. People here express their opinion, and this balabol trolit you)
    37. MAG
      +3
      3 July 2014 17: 04
      Here are found on the vast expanses of the Internet, the original is taken from galkovsky in 899. WAR OF THE BLIND. I disagree with many, but some things are absolutely true. The population's unwillingness to defend their land determines Russia's assistance in this war, although whoever sees in the general flow that air defense units in eastern Ukraine are knocked out within a month, he will understand that preparations are underway. And who wants her to go faster then let them rush the "Novorossians" to defend their home.
      1. MAG
        -1
        3 July 2014 17: 27
        READ ALL !!! The original is taken from el_murid in Donetsk. 26 of May. The airport. Member Report.
    38. MSA
      MSA
      +3
      3 July 2014 17: 04
      Well, at least a few missiles to launch at the main positions ...
    39. 0
      3 July 2014 17: 05
      Lost like cowards in disgrace, but it was necessary to lose with dignity.
    40. volkodav
      +11
      3 July 2014 17: 05
      Well cheers patriots, where is your super plan? Why should people be encouraged that we won’t leave them? So long as the news of our supreme is not visible in the news? Why did Aksenov shout, look at the Crimeans and do like us? Even if you throw troops now, as people look into people's eyes, I as a military man are very ashamed of my country and its leadership. So crap in full !!!! Once again, and I think this is not the last time when the leadership of our country betrays us Russians. Remember the beginning of the 90s in Chechnya, where, according to official figures, over 40 thousand people were cut out only in Central Asia, where the persecution of the Russians was widespread, it is customary to protect only the national minorities, and the Russians at a cost. To the fighters of New Russia courage of patience and military luck, God be with you!
      1. avt
        +8
        3 July 2014 17: 46
        Quote: volkodav
        Why did Aksenov shout, look at the Crimeans and do like us?

        And then he shouted that in Donetsk they should not open a network branch of MMM, but create sane administrative and economic bodies and normal armed forces under a clear, unified command, and not mythical miners' divisions with hundreds of tanks. Or at least how they organized in Lugansk if they can't in Crimean.
        Quote: volkodav
        . So crap in full !!!! IN

        But there is no need for children's tantrums - they did not buy a toy in a store. The same ones bawled in a single patriotic impulse in 1914 and how they later yelled about "a world without annexations and indemnities", although even then in 14th Russia helped the Serbs in full - read about, , The Danube Special Purpose Expedition. "The GDP level politician MUST calculate the long-term consequences of his words and actions and not make sudden, rash movements guided only by emotions. This is his job. However, if you still do not want to calm down your emotions to think soberly - continue to hustle, there is a company for the campaign. And they will definitely press ykry for another two weeks, until the ammunition on the front end runs out, so the Novorossians will have a difficult month.
      2. +1
        3 July 2014 18: 31
        As soon as one traitor with a birthmark on his forehead began, then the last-grab picked up! Therefore, 10 times more dangerous at the helm are clever two-dealers-shifters than a simple-minded patriot ...... this will end in seven-story joins and the capture of the Kremlin by the Poles. Strelkova for the presidency - he will not betray and will not sell; rather, he will beat the Bosko boyars.
    41. +2
      3 July 2014 17: 06
      Transnistria had a general swan. and now there are no such ones. all just on paper. if our leadership doesn’t think twice about turning yellow for a long time, Russia will wake up. now the answer is ONLY RUSSIAN AVIATION AND THE SOLDIER ALREADY ENTERED LATE. A bridgehead is NEEDED.
    42. 2014videonew
      -4
      3 July 2014 17: 09
      Quote: Megatron
      It is necessary to send troops! Yes, and to hell with them, with the sanctions, survive! But people die every day!

      Well, go fight who does not give you? Or let others fight / die, and will you read news and post patriotic pictures on websites in front of the monitor?
      1. iung
        -1
        3 July 2014 17: 12
        and you in your desire to live are still apparently radically different?
      2. volkodav
        0
        3 July 2014 17: 46
        And what are you afraid of blocking popcorn for you? These are ur ... s and make the country !!! I should be ashamed to be a friend
        1. 2014videonew
          -2
          3 July 2014 19: 14
          That's just such ur ... s like you and drag the country into the war, but they themselves do not want to fight.
    43. -13
      3 July 2014 17: 09
      There was a case, he was sitting on the couch and gnashing his teeth "Why does not Putin send troops to save the Russians in the East of Ukraine !!! ???" (Lord is witness)
      But after a couple of weeks, I began to ask myself the question "What if there is a tough choice of two evils, less and more?"
      The lesser evil is that now.
      And more, it’s when those killed by a bill of millions !!!!
      So now I look at the cheers on this forum (half of which (if not more) are probably just American instigators), do they really not suspect such a choice?
      That fairy tale that from Ukraine it will spread to us is rubbish.
      As long as we have nuclear weapons and the FSB successor to the KGB, nothing threatens us.
      1. iung
        +2
        3 July 2014 17: 14
        tell the border guards about this
        1. -4
          3 July 2014 17: 18
          About what? About what is greater evil?
          To this is the whole calculation of the instigators that the disaster which is now worse than the disaster is much greater, but which then.
          1. iung
            +2
            3 July 2014 17: 39
            They fight against evil, but do not agree. How did you get the idea that everything in the world can be sat out? refusing a fight does not mean at all that they will change their minds.
          2. -3
            3 July 2014 18: 08
            See how many cons!
            It was noted by all those who need millions of dead instead of thousands? !!!

            It's good that you are not so many. Well, you can log in and put it!
            Who believes that Putin does not know what he is doing, I advise you to look at the last 14 years ......
      2. DPZ
        +2
        3 July 2014 17: 44
        As long as we have nuclear weapons and the FSB successor to the KGB, nothing threatens us.
        in that case, what prevented us from recognizing these republics and helping them officially? as it was written above: yes, at least provide the sky without airplanes ?!
      3. volkodav
        0
        3 July 2014 17: 54
        And you my friend a provocateur and incitement! And just an intellect, the introduction of troops will significantly reduce losses among the civilian population, since dill will not have heavy weapons, which they are now not embarrassed to use in cities and towns
      4. 0
        3 July 2014 18: 21
        Yes, you just say how Gorbachev a quarter century ago!
    44. Alexan
      +9
      3 July 2014 17: 09
      From the last from Strelkova, regarding the statement of the new Minister of Defense of Ukraine:

      Commentary from I. I. Strelkova.

      - The new Minister of Defense promised to hold a parade of victory in Sevastopol.

      I. I .: "Why not? Another week or two of" negotiations ", and it will be necessary to transfer the remnants of the militia to Perekop and Chongar."

      And so. what’s most funny, I, as a Crimean, will not be very surprised. that under some pressure the peninsula will be transferred first to joint control, and then ... Sorry. make you think so!
    45. +7
      3 July 2014 17: 10
      And someone, like Leontyev with his "However", is all gundel - no one will hand over anyone!
      But they did not guess, they passed, they surrendered for a sweet soul. They started a useless ceasefire, during this time the troops pulled together the dill, and they did not even plant ammunition on ours, which "will not hand over anyone".
      We do not have Strategs of the scale of Stalin.
      For some, this is a question - does it make sense to have Americans with the Nazis in power close by? Here are those who shout a bad world better, etc., what are they hinting at?
      Are you going to make peace with the bucket now (which means, kneel in front of Obama), do all that these monkeys offer you? And then there will be a scenario of the Russian Maidan (or Bolotnaya), everything goes to this, otherwise why is the country of explosives larger in number than the army? To suppress the discontent of the population ...
      1. Oleg amos
        +3
        3 July 2014 17: 26
        I say right away CATEGORALLY AGAINST REVOLUTIONS IN RUSSIA, but I say everything that I see, but I see Putin running on a bike
        1. +4
          3 July 2014 18: 04
          You will recall Russia under Yeltsin and compare it with Russia under Putin. Or ask your mom how your family lived in the 90s. Putin on tsarlah? Then under Yeltsin we just stood cancer. (sorry)
    46. +3
      3 July 2014 17: 11
      Sawing ... At EBN, there were eggs, at one time on a march to Cristina, to stop the war in Transnistria, to help Abkhazia and South Ossetia. And the great Pu, one verbal diarrhea ...
      1. 0
        3 July 2014 17: 23
        Yes, and Dimon was with eggs, definitely! am
      2. volkodav
        0
        3 July 2014 18: 28
        I agree with you! Dagestan and the second Chechen do not count, there was no other choice !!!
    47. +4
      3 July 2014 17: 11
      Quiet! Tihoooo! Remember Bamut in the first and second Chechnya. Yes, it’s a bad thing, but most of the comments are panic. Going and just killing is not a thing either. Napoleon also took Moscow ...
      1. volkodav
        +2
        3 July 2014 18: 32
        And what about Bamut, there are still noochs there, and if you don’t talk about it on TV, then it’s insignificant that everything is in openwork, how many times the mahauri gang was destroyed there, and it again emerged from hell as a ghost. and not panic but simply a statement of facts
    48. +9
      3 July 2014 17: 13
      Putin is responsible for the whole country, and most of us are only for our family, and often only for ourselves. The difference is enormous. Stop acting like schoolgirls and screaming about plums.
      1. iung
        +5
        3 July 2014 17: 20
        I very much doubt that he is worried about responsibility for anyone's life.
    49. -1
      3 July 2014 17: 15
      Quote: Oleg Amos
      Hmm, how is our Mr. Cunning Plan!
      There is only one reason why troops are not being brought in; this is betrayal!

      Mr. theorist?
      And for what reason have you not yet gone there? They stopped me in front of the plane and thank you for stopping me, because my wife and children are still more important.
      Do you want our state to be an aggressor in the eyes of others? But this is bullshit! Do you want the funeral of Russian soldiers? Moms won't understand it. You can still write a lot, but is it worth it? If a person does not understand, then he will not understand.
      1. Oleg amos
        -2
        3 July 2014 17: 28
        I have a family and I feed her
        1. +5
          3 July 2014 17: 56
          And those soldiers and officers whom you want to throw into the fire of war have no families, no parents, no wives, no children.
        2. 0
          3 July 2014 18: 53
          Quote: Oleg Amos
          I have a family and I feed her

          Do you think this is an indulgence?
      2. iung
        +2
        3 July 2014 17: 30
        There are probably only two options for a funeral, or a further happy life, where everyone feels under the protection of the state.
    50. +4
      3 July 2014 17: 16
      If Putin enters the troops, our oligarchs will bite him. After the troops are sent in, sanctions by geyrops and ai will follow, and they will hit the pocket of the oligarchs.
      1. -4
        3 July 2014 19: 10
        The point is not only sanctions, but also the NATO forces, which are located near our borders. Putin is simply afraid to send troops to the Donbass.
        1. +4
          3 July 2014 19: 13
          I beg you, NATO will not fight with Russia over the Dill. The case in sanctions and only the oligarchs are afraid for their grandmother.

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