Ukrainian troops can use the Tochka missile system in the eastern regions

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Judging by the latest reports coming from Ukraine, the Kiev forces are preparing to use the Tochka tactical missile systems against the national militia. The agency writes about this in its publication. Messenger of Mordovia.

Ukrainian troops can use the Tochka missile system in the eastern regions


According to various sources, the Ukrainian army has in its arsenal near 100 similar launchers, which are now beginning to appear in areas adjacent to the conflict zone.

Missiles complex "Point" can be equipped with different types of warheads. One option is a high-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing up to half a ton. It is capable of destroying targets on a square in 3 hectares, bringing down to the enemy up to 14,5 thousands of fragments. For more effective defeat air blasting is provided. But the most deadly is considered a warhead with 50-th fragmentation submunitions. The area of ​​destruction of such a warhead is about 7 hectares.

Military experts say that for the successful use of this weapons a modern intelligence system is needed, and with this, Kiev security officials are known to have significant problems.

In addition, according to experts, the warranty period for the use of missiles has long expired. They recalled the incident that occurred in Ukraine in the city of Brovary, when a “lost” rocket flew into a residential building. 14 years have passed since the incident and during this time the state of the technology has hardly improved.
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    1. +18
      3 July 2014 11: 28
      Do not bring the Lord. Although, a volley of hail is probably no less destructive?
      1. +17
        3 July 2014 11: 32
        Well, this is a complete jo ... pa ... If dill can be pulled by such a fool, the GDP will need to be introduced at least something into Ukraine. Otherwise it will be tin. From the east there will only be a scorched field ...

        Nevertheless, I hope that this muck at the launch of dill will detanate.
        1. +15
          3 July 2014 11: 57
          Even better - in warehouses. and all at once
          1. +3
            3 July 2014 12: 32
            Quote: zorcher
            Even better - in warehouses. and all at once

            And this must be helped to happen. The main thing is to involve specialists. From South Ossetia, for example. And not in battle formations, but as you rightly noted - in warehouses.
          2. Natalia
            +2
            3 July 2014 12: 48
            Ukrainian troops can use the Tochka missile system in the eastern regions

            As I understand it, from hopelessness in the future they will not be shy to use the BM-30. Given the degree of frostbite, as well as the sequence with which they are increasing the need for heavy weapons ....
            1. avt
              +1
              3 July 2014 13: 04
              Quote: Natalia
              As I understand it, from hopelessness in the future they will not be shy to use the BM-30.

              They’re actually running out of fire and two weeks at the front end, scrubbing all the Soviet guns, and if you take into account how many fireplugs to the North Ossetia remain in Transnistria in Kolbasovo, for example, and you don’t hear anything about your production. .
              Quote: Thought Giant
              The next war crime is being prepared against the Russian people, but what about Russia? Will it release everything again on the brakes?

              Listen carefully to what was posted on the site today ,, However, Leontyev, there on the first channel, that it is practically official, he clearly said under what conditions the Russian leadership will fit into the Ruin and clean up the fifth column in Russia itself, And he, for a minute, is now a mouthpiece, Rosneft "that under the leadership of Sechin - a person close to ... Ah! what kind of person, so a gag in such a comment should not be expected from him. So when you receive package No. 3 with sanctions, there is simply nothing to lose GDP.
              1. +2
                3 July 2014 15: 00
                Quote: avt
                Listen carefully to what was posted on the site today ,, However, Leontyev, there on the first channel, that it is practically official, he clearly said under what conditions the Russian leadership will fit into the Ruin and clean up the fifth column in Russia itself, And he, for a minute, is now a mouthpiece, Rosneft "that under the leadership of Sechin - a person close to ... Ah! what kind of person, so a gag in such a comment should not be expected from him. So when you receive package No. 3 with sanctions, there is simply nothing to lose GDP.

                this?
                1. avt
                  0
                  3 July 2014 16: 52
                  Quote: PSih2097
                  this?

                  He is the most. The official statement of the State Corporation "Rosneft" announced by its vice president. bully
        2. ..Dmitry..
          0
          3 July 2014 13: 09
          Timoshonka said "so that the scorched earth remains"
        3. 0
          3 July 2014 13: 11
          Yeah, especially if you need to fill the head with uranium from the Southeast, make a scorched field.
        4. +3
          3 July 2014 13: 51
          Quote: Gxash
          Well, this is a complete jo ... pa ... If dill can be pulled by such a fool, the GDP will need to be introduced at least something into Ukraine. Otherwise it will be tin. From the east there will only be a scorched field ...

          Nevertheless, I hope that this muck at the launch of dill will detanate.


          It can be used, because they have already shown that they do not need the population there and any enterprises. In this case, they don’t care where this thing gets, if only it doesn’t fly back. Fight against such installations, or an exact blow, preferably from the air, or a sabotage group.
        5. +1
          3 July 2014 14: 01
          That’s complete ... oh yes, but hell only knows the resource they got when they’re about 10 years old, if not more of it they demolished a house. In my opinion, like a fool give a glass horseradish to a fool, he’ll break his horseradish and cut his hands off. God grant that they rush at their start
      2. 0
        3 July 2014 11: 51
        The next war crime is being prepared against the Russian people, but what about Russia? Will it release everything again on the brakes?
        1. +3
          3 July 2014 12: 29
          Quote: Giant thought
          The next war crime is being prepared against the Russian people, but what about Russia? Will it release everything again on the brakes?

          Now on August 2, dill seizures on the second of the month, and the degree is constantly growing.
          1. 0
            3 July 2014 14: 09
            ory-month fix-the whole world is now July
        2. +4
          3 July 2014 12: 40
          IT SEEMS TO ME OUR SERVICE OF THE PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR WHEN THEY SURE WILL OFFER MONEY !!! FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN ADDICTED ... WHAT WE ALL PAY FOR THEM FOR WHAT WE BECOME GOOD !!!!
        3. +1
          3 July 2014 12: 46
          Quote: Thought Giant
          But what about Russia? Will it release everything again on the brakes?

          Are you tired of it?
        4. +2
          3 July 2014 17: 54
          Here you are, like, Giant, and ask rhetorical questions.
          Of course he’ll let him down, because, like our government, by and large, like a Ukrainian cousin. Only his selfish interests, such as Rosneft, RUSNANO, Gazprom, etc.
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      4. portoc65
        0
        3 July 2014 11: 54
        Nothing to ourselves. And we will keep silent again. Well, this is happening, a full-scale war against the people and we are only outraged .. This is a war of extermination ..
        1. 0
          3 July 2014 12: 15
          Quote: portoc65
          This is a war of extermination.

          The foundation was laid back in Yugoslavia and in Syria polished.
          The fact that they cut, beat, hammer, shoot, burn, does not lead to thoughts of destruction, and only the use of OTRK encourages such conclusions?
          It will not work for anyone who lives in Russia and still blisses with measures about CONSCIENCE, HONOR, TRUTH and so on.
          Unfortunately.
          Hello again, again: The era of extermination.
      5. +2
        3 July 2014 12: 39
        Hmm ... Natsik from the last forces are trying to suppress the South-East ... !!! They will tear ... !!! The people of New Russia will not forgive ANYTHING !!!
      6. 0
        3 July 2014 14: 16
        You are right: "Tochki" warheads in conventional equipment are designed to destroy manpower and unarmored equipment located in open areas, with the affected area, depending on the warhead type, - 2-7 hectares. At the same time, a full salvo of BM-21 covers an area from 10,5 to 14,5 hectares.
    2. +4
      3 July 2014 11: 29
      I don’t know, a couple of times on TV they showed sneezed "Tornadoes" passing through the villages. All correspondents, for some reason, called them "Tochka".
      1. +5
        3 July 2014 11: 55
        If this is true, then:
        1) Russia urgently needs to send sabotage groups to capture this equipment.
        2) Turn the trunks to Lviv and Kiev and apply as directed.
        2) The same is true for Hurricanes using grouping juntas.
        These devilishly powerful installations are used by simple ukrovoyaks, who are at the shooting ranges "once every five years" (he himself served in communications in the "Topoli"). A competently prepared group will capture this "at once."
        I agree in advance with everyone who writes - like go and fight, etc.
        But not under my house shells explode. hi
        1. +1
          3 July 2014 12: 30
          It would be nice to have these groups, with sufficient training and equipment ....
          1. avt
            +1
            3 July 2014 13: 08
            Quote: Orik
            It would be nice to have these groups, with sufficient training and equipment ....

            In, in! To start. Yes, and just stupidly throw them away! We need a clear support force support, supply.
    3. nicollider
      +2
      3 July 2014 11: 29
      yes they fuck where to fig. this shooting at the squares with artillery has already shown. the main thing is that at the start it does not rush. Well, this is for them - but for us - just the opposite
    4. +4
      3 July 2014 11: 30
      nda .... genocide does not seem to stop, it is only gaining momentum
    5. SNNS
      +1
      3 July 2014 11: 30
      she is 30 years old on start up)))
    6. +2
      3 July 2014 11: 30
      if dill really use the Point, it will be a disaster for sure fool
    7. 0
      3 July 2014 11: 31
      when a “stray” rocket flew into an apartment building

      This time the expectation is that she will "get lost" in the city center.
    8. MSA
      MSA
      +5
      3 July 2014 11: 31
      Poroshenko plant on these missiles!
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    10. +3
      3 July 2014 11: 32
      They would fly at launch in the opposite direction.
      1. Stypor23
        0
        3 July 2014 11: 45
        Exactly. A year in 2000, it seems, it happened. The truth was in a residential building.
    11. +4
      3 July 2014 11: 32
      Well ... Guns, howitzers, snipers, phosphorus bombs, chlorine-containing reagents, now also tactical weapons ... What's next? What else can the junta use against its own population? Do they need a southeast completely scorched and cleansed? Like, anyway, will we produce shale gas there and it will become impossible to live there ??
      1. +1
        3 July 2014 11: 36
        This is so that there would be those who could prevent the amers from developing shale news. Everything is just like a nail.
      2. Air Force Captain
        0
        3 July 2014 12: 19
        All that remains is a weapon with a nuclear carrier, but dill is more likely to be gone thanks to the long-standing efforts of the United States, and Europe can describe itself if it finds out, although dill has long been uncontrollable.
        1. 0
          3 July 2014 15: 06
          Quote: Captain-Air Force
          All that remains is a weapon with a nuclear carrier, but its dill is probably gone

          No, all special ammunition was taken out immediately after the collapse of the USSR into the territory of the Russian Federation.
        2. 0
          3 July 2014 18: 21
          For more than 20 years they have been perfectly controlled, wipe your eyes in the end. Now they are directly driving from Washington!
      3. Air Force Captain
        0
        3 July 2014 12: 19
        All that remains is a weapon with a nuclear carrier, but dill is more likely to be gone thanks to the long-standing efforts of the United States, and Europe can describe itself if it finds out, although dill has long been uncontrollable.
    12. +1
      3 July 2014 11: 32
      Then nothing will prevent the DRG DPR-LPR from committing "pinpoint" acts in the rest of Ukraine.
    13. +1
      3 July 2014 11: 33
      Why write nonsense? "Point" for frontline operations. Will dill be shot straight from the Maidan?
    14. +1
      3 July 2014 11: 33
      I really hope that the "Points" are not in a combat-ready state with them ...
    15. +2
      3 July 2014 11: 35
      missile warranty periods have long expired

      I hope they work before departure!
      am
    16. 0
      3 July 2014 11: 35
      It is called "Point U"
    17. +4
      3 July 2014 11: 40
      how good it is that these clowns seized nuclear weapons at one time
    18. +2
      3 July 2014 11: 42
      Quote: MSA
      Poroshenko plant on these missiles!

      Here came constructive suggestions, exactly what to "screw up" hi
      1. 0
        3 July 2014 12: 38
        Quote: 2224460
        Quote: MSA
        Poroshenko plant on these missiles!

        Here came constructive suggestions, exactly what to "screw up" hi

        They made me laugh ... laughing laughing good
    19. 0
      3 July 2014 11: 43
      It is good that we once changed these nuclear weapons in the Crimea at these sheep!
    20. Sergei 57
      -1
      3 July 2014 11: 43
      Yes, Parashenko’s affairs are really bad, if such a step is decided.
      1. +2
        3 July 2014 12: 15
        `` Yes, things are absolutely bad for Parashenko, if he decides to take such a step. '' Yes Parasha-enko is nobody, he is not in command of the parade. So zits-chairman, doll.
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    21. +2
      3 July 2014 11: 43
      Russia must warn as soon as they at least once use this weapon, the rest will be destroyed by targeted attacks!
      1. 0
        3 July 2014 11: 46
        As punctual as strikes on cities of New Russia
      2. 0
        3 July 2014 11: 56
        Quote: kod3001
        Russia must warn as soon as they at least once use this weapon, the rest will be destroyed by targeted attacks!

        --------------------
        It is a pity that the Iskander missiles cannot be launched into clusters of heavy equipment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ...
        1. 0
          3 July 2014 18: 26
          Well, then Russia needs to apply its existing "Points" to Ukrov's "Points". The Russian arsenals probably have the same. And to officially imagine that they detonated, panimashshh, expired rackets.
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    22. +2
      3 July 2014 11: 47
      These krivoruchki remember from the S-200 "big carcass" with the Jewish delegation accidentally filled up, it is obvious that there will be a bullet anywhere.
    23. hly
      +4
      3 July 2014 11: 50
      Quote: kod3001
      Russia must warn as soon as they at least once use this weapon, the rest will be destroyed by targeted attacks!

      So it would be great, but when shelling our territory and border points for some reason, the firing points of dill are not suppressed .... somehow it is toothless and wrong. Israel would not write protest notes, but began to suppress the firing points.
    24. +1
      3 July 2014 11: 51
      I hope that the "Points" will explode right on the positions of the dill, inflicting monstrous losses on them.
    25. +2
      3 July 2014 11: 53
      the consequences of shelling Kramatorsk, although probably it will soon become commonplace ... except for God, there is no one to rely on.
      1. 0
        3 July 2014 11: 58
        Quote: Vitaliy11
        except for God, there is no one to trust.

        In Russia, we pray at every liturgy that the Lord has kept our Christian brothers in Ukraine.
        For the successful use of these weapons, a modern reconnaissance system is necessary, and with this, the Kiev security forces, as you know, have significant problems.
        Maybe even the lack of intelligence will help reduce the number of victims.
      2. -1
        3 July 2014 12: 17
        VITALY AND WHAT DO YOU SIMPLY REMOVE OR WITH THE AUTOMATIC MACHINE YOU GO ALL SUCH IN A MALITION ????? TELL ME PLEASE???? AND HOW MUCH IS YOU SIMPLY LOOKING AT ALL THIS ???? YOU ARE NOT PATRIOTIC TO YOU. ALL YOURSELF LIVE YOUR HOUSE NEEDS TO PROTECT.
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        2. +2
          3 July 2014 16: 59
          Quote: 70BSN
          VITALY AND YOU WHAT JUST REMOVE

          I just posted it, I did not shoot ... because your media constantly distorts reality, so for example. On July 1, two minibuses were blown up with people in Kramatorsk, one at 9 o'clock (11 killed), the second at 11 o'clock (6 killed + wounded), but it is stated that reliable incoming information (see Putin's statement in the media) , only about the second minibus ... on the night of 1 to 2 July in the suburbs of Kramatorsk the MLRS "Hurricane" worked, your government declares with certainty that it is just "Grad", but if he was sitting at home or like some " head in the sand "who do not want war, but shame, then I would carry a blizzard about the Grady ...

          and I repeat, as I already wrote, why don’t you tell about patriotism, heroism ... to Russians, and to Chechens who fled from Chechnya to the first and second Chechen, and who fled to the Donbass as well, I say this because it helped asking for products, despite the fact that he had not seen salaries for years. And I didn’t stab people in the eyes, unlike you. about their patriotism, but simply helped as he could and this is not the help of the rich to the poor. but akin to the poor poor .. patriotism. Or maybe you are pricked in the eyes of his president in his patriotism towards the Russians or in the ability to keep his word?

          and if there wasn’t such small news, you would have chewed on the mess that ukroSMI post, gradually degenerating into psakolike, because from Strelkova, also, for obvious reasons (because no one in a besieged city can know everything that happens in the okrug), there is no reliable infa
    26. +1
      3 July 2014 11: 54
      Herald of Mordovia is a very authoritative source wink
    27. 0
      3 July 2014 11: 59
      Quote: 787nkx
      when a “stray” rocket flew into an apartment building

      This time the expectation is that she will "get lost" in the city center.

      Kiev or Lviv
    28. +3
      3 July 2014 11: 59

      Fskenshch13 (1) Today, 11:47
      These krivoruchki remember from the S-200 "big carcass" with the Jewish delegation accidentally filled up, it is obvious that there will be a bullet anywhere.

      To begin with, not with a delegation, but with ordinary passengers on a flight to Novosibirsk.


      In 1999, dill were already marked with "Tochka". On April 20, a rocket was launched from the Goncharovsky training ground, located 130 kilometers north of Kiev, which then deviated from the course and hit a residential building in Brovary at 15:05, breaking through nine floors. As a result of the tragic incident, 3 people were killed and 5 were injured. Fortunately, the missile was not equipped with a warhead, otherwise there would have been much more casualties.

      Technique in the hands of a savage sometimes, contrary to popular belief, is not a piece of iron ...
    29. +5
      3 July 2014 12: 01
      A terrible thing. Taking into account the technical condition of these "Points" and the level of training of dill, one can imagine where this rocket will fly and what the consequences will be. They can easily fire it across the territory of Russia.
    30. yurik
      +4
      3 July 2014 12: 08
      Ukrainian troops can use the Tochka missile system in the eastern regions


      Apply, intelligence on guidance will receive from the Americans. They will not be stopped by anything, the restraining factor as a threat to send troops into Ukraine, Putin personally canceled, even shelling of Russian territory at the border became the norm i.e. Why the hell you need to create a modern army, which they can’t use at least to protect their own! frontier territory ?!
      And Tymoshenko was right about the destruction of the population of the Southeast by atomic weapons, if they had it, they used it now without any fear
    31. wladimir
      +4
      3 July 2014 12: 14
      They will smash the floor of Donbass. Russia is held for the banana republic. And on all the warnings of the President of Russia, they started. the population will be destroyed, and the Chinese will be hired by the mines to work in the mines, the zapadents themselves will not climb into the mine
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    33. 0
      3 July 2014 12: 25
      Poroshenko put on this rocket and send somewhere ..... commercials to the moon.
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    35. +1
      3 July 2014 12: 35
      At one of the forums, I swore with a whole crowd of dill. And one argued to me that if Ukraine had nuclear weapons, then the Crimea would not have come to us and in general they would be a mega-cool power! And now we will unanimously imagine that Banderlog now has nuclear weapons. ..that would be worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki ....
    36. DPZ
      +2
      3 July 2014 12: 40
      not half the Donbas will be smashed, but the whole Donbass, Lugansk and all the resistance. dill now has nothing to lose. understand - there will be no mercy. need to work in advance. so they will clean everything. and build new cities with new people. loyal to fascism.
    37. +3
      3 July 2014 12: 40
      Our, as always, after this note of protest will declare, and will express their dissatisfaction and disagreement ....... Here is what we have ... a powerful army! We do not respond to shelling our borders !!! There, in the Kremlin, are you crazy with everything?!?!
    38. 0
      3 July 2014 12: 56
      They can apply, only that who will allow them.
      1. +3
        3 July 2014 12: 57
        At first I thought about Grad, then about Tornado.
    39. 0
      3 July 2014 13: 04
      So that they themselves would be blown up, in cases of use
    40. 0
      3 July 2014 13: 04
      We chew all snot.
      It is necessary to finish these powders ....... c.
    41. +2
      3 July 2014 13: 06
      Since Ukrainian media are talking about the presence of aviation among the militias, it’s necessary to send a couple of bombers from our side ... And that’s all ... There’s nothing to lose.
    42. Capetown
      0
      3 July 2014 13: 08
      Let's hope that these missiles explode right during the launch!
    43. r_narozhny
      0
      3 July 2014 13: 11
      Another provocation, its purpose is to provoke the entry of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine. The shelling of cities and other settlements is aimed at provoking a panic among civilians, dissatisfaction on the part of Russia and the possible entry of Russian troops into Ukraine. There is no need to send troops, after that all dogs will be hanged on us: devastation in Ukraine; humanitarian disaster in Ukraine; crisis in the economy, financial and social spheres. Let those who brewed this answer !!!
      1. 0
        3 July 2014 15: 47
        Regarding the one who brewed this, I still write a separate article, and we bet there.
    44. 0
      3 July 2014 13: 31
      It is good that there are no atomic bombs in Dill, otherwise they would certainly be used.
    45. kelevra
      0
      3 July 2014 13: 53
      The purpose of dill is to squeeze the population into Russia and destroy all residential buildings in order to pump shale gas, which is what the USA is trying to do! They need a clean, scorched area for drilling rigs! Dill has no head at all if they use DOTS!
      1. 0
        3 July 2014 14: 31
        In the soul of a psycho there is no doubt

        He only believes in his visions.

        His path is the milky way

        Around the water swamp dregs.
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    47. 0
      3 July 2014 16: 32
      the last time when the dodges were still firing during exercises at the jaceke, the missile without warhead hit the five-story building, breaking through the floor floors
    48. Oleg is simple
      +1
      3 July 2014 17: 18

      this is during the truce

      this is yesterday:
      I. Strelkov: "Motorola" was wounded in Slavyansk
      03.07.2014 - 14: 46
      As the Minister of Defense of the DPR Igor Strelkov said, during a fierce battle in the suburb of Slavyansk, the legendary commander of the militia with the call sign "Motorola" was wounded.

      The degree of injury has not yet been reported.

      As you know, "Motorola" is a Russian volunteer who arrived in Slavyansk to defend the Russian land and population from the Bandera. It is known that he served in the Marine Corps and fought in Chechnya.

      Also I. Strelkov said that in the village of Nikolaevka near Slavyansk Ukrainian punitive forces massively used MLRS "Smerch". "Several five-story buildings have been destroyed to the ground (together with the population)," said I. Strelkov.

      so there is nothing to be surprised
    49. 0
      3 July 2014 18: 59
      Mordovia has its own GRU?
      Application of "Point" is possible, but where it will fly the question. Either the Ukrainians get rid of the old stuff during the battles, which is much less expensive than recycling, or they have all their brains gone. With a launch range of 120 km, it will crash anywhere.
    50. Leshka
      0
      3 July 2014 20: 06
      LORD THAN SOUTH-EAST crying

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