Donetsk. 26 May. Airport. Member Report

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About three weeks ago I talked to people who were directly involved in one of the most unsuccessful operations of the Donetsk militia - an attempt to seize the airport in Donetsk. At my request, they compiled a text in which they described the events in detail from the point of view of the direct participant. Below is the text, as it came.

All conclusions and arguments that will be presented below are based on personal communication with the direct participants of the events described. Some evidence contradicted each other in detail and consumption figures, but, nevertheless, allowed to reconstruct a complete picture of the total number of tragic militia operations in the territory of the DNI. Some things due to certain reasons will not be called by their proper names. Knowledgeable people will understand.

Survivors militia fighters had a little time to conduct photo and video on the battlefield, so the accompanying illustrative material taken from open sources. Initially, our goal was to investigate the operation to seize Donetsk 26 Airport in May 2014, which resulted in the death of about 50 militias (not counting the losses of the unblocking units), the bulk of which were volunteers from Russia. This fact has already received official recognition of the leadership of the DPR, so we do not see any reason to hide it, including the presence of Russian volunteers.

This operation can be considered the most disastrous of all carried out by the militias of the Southeast, both in terms of the results achieved and the losses incurred. The next clash, guided and planned by Khodakovsky, was a battle near the Marinovka border point, as a result of which the militia suffered losses in manpower and equipment and did not fulfill the initial task.

The abundance of commanders and leaders in Donetsk, the lack of a single headquarters negatively affects the organization of defense of Donetsk itself. The city is completely unprepared for all-round defense. What is being done is not enough to keep Donetsk in the event of its full-scale assault with massive use of armored vehicles, which are now being actively re-established in Kharkov at the Malyshev factory, artillery and aviation.

Russian volunteers.

As part of the militias of the South-East includes a significant number of volunteers from Russia, fighting there for their personal convictions. Many of them have the combat experience of Afghanistan, Transnistria, Nagorno-Karabakh, and two Chechen campaigns. The detachment, which suffered great losses during the breakthrough from the Donetsk airport, began to gather in the middle of May 2014 in the Rostov region.

The gathering of volunteers took place through social networks and personal contacts; on-site assistance was provided by a public organization. Its Rostov branch was headed by a certain person, let's call him “Sergey Ivanovich”. Soon, three groups were formed, the elders of which became commanders with the callsigns "Granit", "North" and "Old". By decision of "Sergei Ivanovich," the squad leader was appointed "Iskra" (died at the breakthrough). “Iskra” in the past was an officer of the special militia forces and did not have sufficient combat, and even more command experience, as well as the intellectual level to manage the detachment. He was inclined to take rash decisions, which was revealed already in a combat situation.

Volunteers from the Crimea and Chechnya were added to the three groups in the Rostov Region. The total number of consolidated detachment was 120 people. The command of the detachment at the insistence of "Sergey Ivanovich" was carried out by the former officer Boris Sysenko, who in a critical situation was removed from the command of the detachment. On the night of 24 on 25 of May on 5 KAMAZ, the combined detachment moved to the side of Donetsk. The detachment was supposed to join the battalion "Vostok" and act under the command of Khodakovsky.

Donetsk. 26 May. Airport. Member Report


Khodakovsky

Due to the lack of adequate counter-intelligence cover in the squad, already on Russian territory, at least one enemy reconnaissance aircraft entered. It turned out, as it turned out, a fighter with the call sign "Schumacher". This means that even in the Russian territory, the enemy seeks to conduct active agent work, introducing spies into groups of volunteers. This man came along with the Crimean militia, he himself, in his words, comes from the Nikolaev region. He said that he had not done military service anywhere, but was on the territory of Ukraine on the wanted list of the current Ukrainian government. Asked for the driver's position.

Subsequently, in his backpack, accidentally opened (after the battle for the airport 26 in May), the following characteristic items were discovered: 1) walkie-talkie for communication with aviation, 2) scanner ICOM, 3) store to AK, clogged through one tracer (one of the acceptable ways to "highlight" the target in battle - tracer), 4) flash drive on 32 GB, which in electronic format there were special instructions for conducting sabotage operations in the enemy's rear, including instructions for adjusting artillery and aircraft fire. The presence of instructions and reference materials indicates that the adversary conducts mass training of agents in connection with the developments in the South-East of Ukraine. A professional intelligence officer would not have to compromise his documents.

Moreover, it is much easier to create a network of spies and informers in the conditions of the civil war. Schumacher, according to our information, was not detained and interrogated. Details below. Perhaps he is still one of the "fighters" of the DPR militia and continues to conduct intelligence activities in the interests of the SBU. Close to the "Schumacher" was the militia with the call sign "Odessa", which can also be an agent of the SBU. Compared with chloropicrin in the DOGA toilets, which caused discomforts among the militias and employees, the activity of such spies costs human lives.

The first oddities.

The group was met by the people of Khodakovsky. On the territory of Ukraine, one of the KAMAZ trucks, which was completely loaded with ammunition and armament (from the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) “suddenly” could not crawl up the mountain. 20 minutes KAMAZ desperately strained, delaying the movement of the detachment. After which he was thrown, so as not to impede the nomination to the destination. Where is the KAMAZ itself and its cargo - we do not know. The militiamen were told that he had never climbed the mountain, and therefore was blown up along with the contents in order to avoid capture by the Ukrainian military. Neither the inevitable strong explosion, nor the bright night flash was heard or seen by anyone. Probably - weapon and the ammunition was stolen and sold out, since the demand for this business in the Southeast is now very large.

On May 25, an arriving militia unit took part in an improvised parade at a rally in front of the DOGA building, where it was incorporated into the Vostok battalion. Formally, they were not part of the "East", but obeyed the orders of Khodakovsky and Boris Sysenko. The latter was called the “General”; in the past, he was most likely a senior officer before entering the reserve.

(Video. Rally near the building of the Donetsk Regional State Administration 25 in May. The Vostok battalion cars are in blue coloring, they stand at the edges of the column, the militia cars in the center are in green coloring.)



The operation to "capture" the airport.

The operation to seize the Donetsk airport was originally a crime, since it contradicted the basics of tactical operations. Its organization and planning carried Khodakovsky which declaratively at the forefront put the existence of some informal agreements with the representatives of the Security Service and the command of the special forces of 3-shelf (Kirovogorad), guarding the airport. The presence of these "agreements" it in every way tried to convince Boris Sysenko and team leaders.

In the evening of May 25, a group of intelligence officers moved to the area of ​​the Donetsk airport. "Granite" and "Old" on the basis of agreements reached Khodakovsky, met with Security Service officer who headed the service of the international airport security. The latter informed them of the situation around the airport, showed a diagram of the new terminal.

Upon arrival at the location of the headquarters of the "Granite" and "Old" we went to the meeting, which was attended by Khodakovsky, Sysenko and other officers. This group of persons, while planning the operation to seize a complex infrastructure facility, carried out drinking alcoholic beverages. The report of the commanders of the reconnaissance teams was not fully heard. Their arguments about surveillance and reconnaissance object before the seizure should last at least three days to get a complete picture of the situation at the airport and were not heard in the surrounding area. The scouts were ordered to leave the meeting.

In this case, the group commanders were given only the layout of the building of the new airport terminal, they did not have the general airport layout, plans for other buildings, as well as the underground communications scheme of the new terminal, in which the detachment soon found itself in a fire trap.

The planning of the operation was based on dubious information, in which Khodakovsky tried to convince the commanders of justice. First, he tried to convince everyone that the Kirovograd special forces, who were in the vicinity of the airport, due to some of the “agreements” reached, would not open fire on the militiamen. Making success of an operation dependent on agreements with an adversary is a sign of either treachery or dementia. Secondly, on the orders of Khodakovsky group has moved into the airport area did not bring MANPADS that were available.

As he would say later in an interview with RIANews, MANPADS at the militia were. But no one could have predicted that the Ukrainian army dare to strike from the air at the airport, which is the reconstruction of so much money was spent in the year 2012, so he ordered them not to take with me.

In terms of fighting for the airport, control of the runway and the airspace around the airport is important, but not the airport terminal itself. The enemy will be able to freely planted reinforcements in the form of landing like a helicopter and a transport aircraft. Without the presence of air defense systems (at least portable types of “Needles” MANPADS), it is impossible to carry out an operation to seize the existing airport. In this case, terminal capture, which was produced in May 26 2014 years, could be only vaguely understandable psychological effect. militia actions in Luhansk have shown that it is effective to the creation of no-fly zone over the airfield using light air defense weapons, such as MANPADS and memory-23, which are effective when approaching aircraft and helicopters to take off and landing. With him at the Donetsk airport from militia was only one dummy MANPADS. The operation started in the absence of a full investigation of the situation and total misinformation on the part of its organizers.

About 2.00 26 May Khodakovsky ordered the preparation for the nomination of the squad to capture the airport. According to him, the main task will be to the order "to pose for the cameras of journalists," because with kirovogradtsami (3 Spetsnaz Regiment) reached 100-% agreement on the dark each other fire.

About 3.00 a detachment of approximately 80 people moved to the airport to complete the task. The fighters partially occupied the building of the new airport terminal. The occupation of the airport terminal building took place without clashes.

About 7.00 reinforcements, including volunteers from Chechnya, entered the terminal.

About 10.00 Khodakovsky completed negotiations with the command kirovogoradskogo special forces and together with the soldiers of the former Donetsk "Alpha" left the airport. The immediate command was further carried out by Boris Sysenko.

After serving Khodakovsky considering reinforcements arrived in 7.00 number of militia occupied the airport was about 120 people. Further action Kirovograd special forces very different from the "agreements" that have been brought to Khodakovsky personnel militias. Ukrainian special forces positions located in the old airport terminal building and its surroundings. Openly and deliberately, kirovogradtsy steel emplacement for firing the terminal occupied by militias. Tightened mortars, set positions for the AGS-17 "Flame", dispersed snipers. Soon at the airport they were planted PMCs soldiers, who took positions in the control tower and the surrounding area airport.

About 11.00 the enemy opened fire on the militiamen who took the airport.



Blow air was delivered Mi-24 and Su-25, applied NURS-s and automatic guns. PMC snipers opened fire with sniper weapons. In fact, the oversight groups to guide the operation of Boris Sysenko of knowing what happened withdrew from his command by sending a fighter to the store "duty-free" for alcohol. At that time, as the squad led the fight, he carried out drinking alcohol, not possessing the necessary moral and psychological characteristics for the defense organization. Instead of the promised Khodakovsky light capture, he started the squad in the trap. In the future, the actual leadership of the detachments was carried out by the commanders of the groups, acting for some time at their discretion.

Kirovogoradsky special forces also opened fire from mortars, AGS-17 «Flame», machine guns and sniper rifles. back fire from equipped emplacements were organized. To do this, even escaped and folded stacks for cover from bullets and shrapnel ATMs. Then it became the basis for the militias accused of looting, although the airport the day before the cleaned the Ukrainian military.

Part of the fighters, not knowing that the enemy would soon strike the terminal with an air strike, took positions on the roof, set up firing points there, pulled AGS-17 “Flame”.


Militia on the roof



"Gypsy" with AGS and "Mir" on the roof. The “Gypsy” will soon receive a slight wound to the head as a result of an air strike on the terminal, but will remain in service. It will be lost in one of KAMAZ-s at the break. "Peace" will be lost during the breakthrough, his body will lie for three days under sniper fire before the militia could pick it up.


When the Ukrainian aviation began to work on them, the fighters began to depart from the roof. Materials used in the construction of the airport, in contact Nursi-s, shells and mines were given a huge number of other damaging elements and is a very poor shelter. The roof was covered with gravel, which also when hit by shells acted like striking elements.

The first losses appeared from the aviation fire on the militias who took positions on the roof. The longest position occupied Chechens who tried to hide behind the smokescreen. This measure was not very effective. Detachment loss soon made two dead and several (one killed and nearly all the wounded were from the Chechen detachment). Part of the existing electronic control doors were locked (though there was no power supply terminal terminated).

As a result, the waste has been carried out through the creation of "artificial exit." If everyone could get out at once, there would be less wounded. After the detachment of the detachment from the roof there remained the wounded and dead. Injured for a long time been able to pull out due to tight sniper fire, which was conducted with a control tower. All pulled out later, under heavy fire, only the third attempt. Fire air and artillery very well adjusted. The channel got into the "gift" of the Ukrainian radio were intercepted negotiations between one of the spotters and mortar gunners.

Photo control room 1 and 2


Dispatch-1



Dispatch-2


The distance from the new terminal to the dominant height over all other buildings of the control tower was 960 meters. Despite a considerable distance, sniper fire was very accurate. He was conducted from sniper weapons caliber not less than 12,7 mm (most likely - M-82 «Barrett" rifles or similar). To do this, heavy fire PMC snipers had something to suppress. From heavy weapons detachment I had only one 82-mm mortar and one ACS-17 «Flame" which is lowered from the roof.

The mines delivered to the mortar did not have fuses (!!!), and therefore they turned the much-needed fire support into a pile of iron. Militia members had to work at the control tower of the AGS-17 «Flame». The maximum firing range of the mounted grenade launcher is 1700 m, but the sighting is much smaller. Fire rig had long to adjust from the second terminal to the first floor results that weakened sniper fire. After that, the wounded were taken from the roof. Thus kirovogradtsy lip were willing to give the corridor to evacuate the wounded.

PMC snipers fired on both the militia and Kirovograd special forces. Perhaps this was due to poor coordination of actions by the opponents, perhaps because of the agreements reached on the evacuation of the wounded. As a result, the deputy commander of kirovogradtsev really gave orders to open fire from the memory-23 of the control room, where snipers operated. Anyway, many militiamen were wounded by fire is kirovogradtsev.

At this point of time in Donetsk already knew about the failure of the operation. Hastily prepared operation deprotected occupied the airport detachment. It was attended by about 400-500 people. The main problem remained the lack of coordination and unified command. The fighting around the airport 26 May were: 1) battalion "Vostok" Khodakovsky and detachment of the former Donetsk "Alpha", 2) fighters Beard, 3) detachment Zdrilyuka, 4) detachment Pushilin, 5) "Hold".

These units also suffered significant losses from sniper fire, and also, possibly, from friendly fire in conditions of poor coordination of actions. Snipers work in almost all approaches to the airport: METRO store in the area (destroyed two mercenary from the Baltic states), from Spartak (sniper working with a construction crane) from the cemetery, and the runway, one of the 9-storey houses on the street Stratonavts.

Then followed frankly provocative actions. "Spark" was ordered by the mobile communication (from someone !!!) to go for a breakthrough, as the airport is surrounded by a Ukrainian military. Do not wait for the night and leave in small groups, but right now, while the “ring” has not closed, it is loaded onto KAMAZ trucks and goes into the city, taking two dead and a few wounded. On the side of Donetsk they will provide a corridor. In fact, tight encirclement was only around the new terminal. On the territory of the airport fire on the militia continued to kirovogradtsy in the vicinity were snipers PMCs. Significant enemy forces, who took in a dense ring of the airport, was not. The militias were able to plunge into only two KAMAZ vehicles, and access to the other two was tightly blocked by fire of snipers. Therefore, the KAMAZ-s were laden people to the top. At the airport there was only a cover group. She will depart later on Zelenka and will not suffer losses killed.

About 18.30 two KAMAZ-and went on break from the airport. Having received information that are surrounded, KAMAZ-s going at full speed, the soldiers were firing at anything that moves, even at rest. The initiator of this tactic was "Iskra". Perhaps, at the entrance to the city limits, this played its tragic role.

A pedestrian cover group advanced through Zelenka about 19.15-19.20. Casualties she suffered and safely returned to Donetsk, which is a further indication that no tight encirclement was not around the airport. When the group went on a "breakthrough", Boris Sysenko stayed in a cover band. He died of a heart attack on the eve of the retreat group from the airport. Before breaking into Zelenka, the group had to overcome 300 meters under fire from snipers and machine guns.

KAMAZ shooting with militias.

On vozde to Donetsk from the airport at that time were concentrated in an ambush the soldiers of the battalion "Vostok" in the amount of about 80 1 people from second-and 2-th battalion bases (established by the name of departments) and other parts of the militia. They received information that a breakthrough in Donetsk from the airport are the soldiers of the National Guard of Ukraine. An order was given to shoot to kill. Two KAMAZ-and with militias, leaving the airport were destroyed fighters battalion "Vostok" dense fire from small arms and grenade launchers. There was no Ukrainian special forces in an ambush, was the order to open fire on their same soldiers.


Kamaz. Kiev Avenue

The first KAMAZ was hit and rolled over on Kiev Prospekt near the shop "Magnolia." There were more survivors in it than in the second. KAMAZ second was shot down on the street. Stratonavts near Putilovsky bridge.



When KAMAZ was riddled and broken, and movement around them stopped, the men of "East" crept closer and saw corpses on the ribbons. The driver of the second KAMAZ and received numerous wounds and blew himself up with a grenade. Second undermining carried out one of the remaining militias in the minds of the wounded (in the past fought in Afghanistan) They thought that the fire was conducted Ukrainian soldiers. Of the 46 fighters who moved in two KAMAZ vehicles, the 35 survived. A few days after the treacherous operation of Chechen volunteers left the DNI. A significant part of the "Vostok" battalion from the awareness of the tragic consequences of the operation deserted in the coming days.

Waste

After arriving at the base, the fighters after the breakthrough from the airport revealed strange facts. Private property, and the remaining arms of victims were forcibly taken by the return time. AGS-17 «Flame", riding in one of the s-undermined KAMAZ soon surfaced Detachment Pushilin. The realization that they were betrayed and sent to command in the name of the slaughterhouse Khodakovsky made them spread out around the city. Further more. Several fighters camped on leave on the outskirts of Donetsk came "Schumacher" and "Odessa" (presumably - spyware). They are friendly to visit the soldiers and away (allegedly on the orders of) loss to the location of the battalion "Vostok". After some time, attracted the attention of militia children crying and women screaming, "Do not shoot!" From the courtyard of the neighboring house. Jumping into the bushes, they saw armed men in camouflage uniforms surrounded the house next door. Sonderkommanda arrived, most likely in the dark confused structure. Most likely, their task was to clean up the survivors of the massacre.

After that, the surviving fighters had only one option left - to leave Donetsk. We decided to break through to Bezler in Gorlovka. Part of the wounded survivors of the massacre at the airport, were able to move to Gorlovka, in order to avoid "accidents". There are also new interesting details. It turns out that Bezler himself was preparing the operation to seize the Donetsk airport, developed it for five days, conducted reconnaissance. This became known to the enemy, most likely, Ukrainian agents also work for Bezler. Instead of storming decided to "storm" Khodakovsky putting together volunteers SWAT team. People with experience in special operations, infantry were thrown on a treacherous shot.

"Mole" with the call sign "Schumacher" could calculate the chance that the "Besa". Departed to Gorlovka of Donetsk militia were able to organize the transport of their belongings. Accidentally, as often happens, carrying hooked backpack "Schumacher". When they opened it, they found very interesting contents (see the beginning). Read more - received demands to return the bag and its contents. There was a refusal.

Betrayal.

Why what happened during the withdrawal of militias from Donetsk Airport should be seen as a betrayal? In conditions of poor organization and chaos, losses from their fire in a war are inevitable. The fact that this was betrayal, in addition to many other signs, is indicated by the subsequent coverage of events. Look at this photo.



The most terrible thing on it - not a pile of bullet-riddled and splinters militias, the worst - it professional camera lenses on right.

Here is a video where a crowd of reporters, including Ukrainian and Western media launch in Donetsk morgue for shooting dead.



What for? For the report. There is a hard and fast rule - to hide your losses, even less so - never to show them in all the bloody details. First of all, it undermines the morale of its soldiers and the civilian population, who are counting on protection from the military. Here we consciously and massively replicated leafless all media footage of mutilated bodies of militia. This not only allows you to report back to the customer, but is valid for many becomes a signal to think about whether to fight for the DNI.

Do not undertake to judge, coincidence or not, but back on May 20-go "guide DNR" (itself a strong abstraction) intends to nationalize the company Akhmetov (curator Khodakovsky)



But by June from these plans publicly refuse. It is possible that this comes from the realization that the power block of the DPR, if not completely, then partially, is controlled by Akhmetov. The same can be said about the political bloc.

Marinovka.

Additional evidence of this - the battle for the border point Marinovka 5 2014 June. There, Hodakovsky again plans and manages. The legend is the same: border guards are demoralized and willing to surrender. Operation top secret, but it takes Western journalists of the newspaper Sunday Times, that have three days with a group of volunteers, of course, with its mobile phones and Internet access. Subsequently, this operation will be the basis for one of the best reports of the Frontier Service of Ukraine for all the time of the ATO.

The fighters arrived at the position to attack the border guards. Begin to unload from the BTR-a and vehicles. Immediately the first mines arrive, exactly to the area where the column stops. An experienced gaze of one of the fighters fixes sighting pegs for mortars at the landing point. Instead of wanting to surrender border guards dense wall of fire. The flanks cover the divisions of the battalion "Vostok" and "Oplot". Very soon, the cover on the flanks as the wind blew. The militia entered into a difficult battle with the enemy, located on the previously prepared firing positions. Air was struck from the air. MANPADS did not fire a single 4 ... As a result, they had to make a breakthrough in the direction of Russia. Sunday Times journalist Michael Franchetti accompanying the squad with gusto describes how not to Russian territory in 80 detachment of militia freely enters, that is none other than the another official confirmation of Russia's support for terrorists operating in the South-East of Ukraine.


BTR "East"



Photo report of the Ukrainian border guards about the victorious battle


Then very strange things happen. Khodakovsky is among the militias that have fallen into the territory of Russia as a result of the battle. There he is about four days. Then calmly returned to Donetsk. By this point in time, our special services should have had complete information about what happened at the Donetsk airport, including the role of Khodakovsky in these events. This man should not only be questioned and released, but also detained as a traitor. Why this did not happen, we do not know.

The border.

After the traitorous operation to seize the Donetsk airport in the DPR, there are several wounded militias from Russia. Their evacuation does not require any official confessions or actions. But, nevertheless, it is not carried out. The wounded are taken out on the initiative of the Russian militia who survived the battle for the airport. On the border with Russia, transport with the wounded is kept for five hours. Among them are people with detached lower limbs, gangrene has started in one of the wounded in the arm, many require the introduction of painkillers.

There is a total interrogation and verification. Although it is clear that even Ukrainian spies without legs will not escape anywhere. Transportation of the wounded is done at the expense of the militias, transportation of the dead - at the expense of relatives. “Sergey Ivanovich” who has gone into hard drinking in Rostov does not render the slightest assistance in organizing the placement of the wounded in medical institutions. Lightly wounded from inevitability appear on the base of volunteers, thereby unmasking its location. From there they are chased away by Sergey Ivanovich. Their placement in hospitals and support fall on the shoulders of surviving militias who have departed to Russia for rest and recovery.

Conclusions

Why did the leadership of Russian militia units arriving in the South-East initially start up on traitors such as Khodakovsky? Why are their support and maintenance so poorly adjusted? There are several working answers to these questions.

Version one. "Fifth column".

The Russian leadership really informally supports the DPR and the LPR, not limited to work in the information space. In this case, senior officials involved "public organizations" and "charities" or are subversive, because were recruited - bought by the enemy, or are completely incompetent from the professional point of view. There is nothing unusual in this version, the columns were sold both in the first and in the second Chechen campaigns. In this sense, the approach of Sergei Ivanovich, the actions of Boris Sysenko, or the fact that Khodakovsky returned to Donetsk after being detained by Russian border guards are evidence in favor of this version. If it is true - must be followed by immediate staffing decisions, but, first of all, the organization of quality counterintelligence cover everything that is Russian in the South East of Ukraine. The situation when traitors lead connections, and agents of the Security Service of Ukraine are introduced into groups still in Russia, is unacceptable.

Version two. Clearing passionaries

According to this version, the Russian leadership really made "conclusions" from the Kiev Maidan. The war in the south-east from this point of view is not used as a means of creating on the ruins of the former Ukrainian Republic Novorossia buffer, but not least, as a way of disposing of explosive weight in Russia. Despite the rise in Putin’s rating, the level of corruption within the country remains extremely high, and the rise in the standard of living of the main strata of the population is extremely low. To avoid Maidan in Russia in a situation of worsening socio-economic crisis, it is better to remove the hottest group of the population, ready at the first call to take up arms and go to the barricades.

The improvement of the Russian elite in recent years has been declarative in nature and has not been accompanied by a radical redistribution of economic leverage within the country. It is extremely doubtful that the main part of the Russian elite (far from being Russian, as everyone is well aware of), supports the idea of ​​gathering Russian lands, which is favored by Strelkov. For these people, at best, we can only talk about collecting new markets, which is not equal to the first. Since the DNRs and the LPRs destroyed by the war may turn out to be not so much economic assets as social burdens, it may not seem expedient for many to address this issue. But if it has a chance to get rid of potential dissenters willing to reformat the existing political landscape by force, here they are and corridors in the South-East, and Khodakovsky as commanders.

What to do?

In the situation of uncertainty and the lack of accurate information about the decisions taken by the Russian leadership, however, it is necessary to formulate a definite position on the Ukrainian issue. In particular, for those people who have a certain military experience and intend to take part in the hostilities in the South-East. Regardless of the mood of the Russian elite, the future of Russia is now really being decided in Ukraine. Very soon, it will probably be decided on the Central Asian borders of the country.

If you have no experience of participation in hostilities, or at least military service, then it is better to abandon the idea of ​​a trip. Unprepared romantics die first. Try to get basic military skills, good, now there is such an opportunity without the need to serve in the army, even if it involves some expenses. They will still be useful to you to protect the motherland in the future.

If there is experience and motivation, check the transition channel offered by the employees of “public organizations” and “charitable foundations”.
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  1. evilrussian
    +27
    3 July 2014 07: 37
    Creepy frames. Rest in peace...
    1. +40
      3 July 2014 08: 37
      I read .. the unpleasant sediment remained. It’s muddy there, I always felt everything. One Slavyansk, in my opinion, is fighting with a clear discipline thanks to Strelkov.
      1. +13
        3 July 2014 09: 33
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I read .. the unpleasant sediment remained. It’s muddy there, I always felt everything. One Slavyansk, in my opinion, is fighting with a clear discipline thanks to Strelkov.

        Why only Slavyansk? Lugansk is also successful, Snezhnoy’s defense is led by Strelkov’s ally in Transnistria, and Brain in Lisichask. In Donetsk, everything is complicated, but it is also gradually getting better, few resources, because our brave, acting officers are in no hurry to go to the rescue, and without power resources to clean up the traitors and Makhnovists in any way.
        1. Andrey82
          +8
          3 July 2014 10: 58
          Until the "moles" like Khodakovsky are cleaned out, nothing will work out in Donetsk.
          1. Fin
            +6
            3 July 2014 11: 54
            Quote: Andrey82
            Until the "moles" like Khodakovsky are cleaned out, nothing will work out in Donetsk.

            Took from the Voice of Sevastopol:
            5. Information about Khodakovsky, our sources confirm, received money from Akhmetov and ukrov.
            1. Fin
              +6
              3 July 2014 12: 13
              IMHO. Khodakovsky is the former commander of the Alpha of the Donetsk region. All the security forces are feeding at Akhmetov's. Two failed operations in a row simply because of "inexperience" do not happen.
        2. +7
          3 July 2014 11: 17
          And why actually the brave officers of the RF Armed Forces in general should go there ??? First, let the citizens of Donetsk independently rise from the sofas and totally join the militia, otherwise it turns out that they themselves do not have normal control over the situation and instead of establishing sensible defense something cloudy things happen.
          1. Andrey82
            +6
            3 July 2014 11: 24
            In fact, the majority of the militia are locals. The only question is how many of them are "moles" and how to identify them. Khodakovsky showed himself in all his glory. It is strange that he is still alive.
          2. +2
            3 July 2014 17: 23
            Stalin's "Cadres decide everything" is most relevant for the DPR and LPR.
            The Russian leadership withdrew from providing assistance to the leadership of the self-proclaimed People's Republics, fearing US and Western sanctions, under the influence of "their" comprador oligarchy, fearing the withdrawal of the Reserve and Stabilization Fund of Russia, criminally placed in the banks of the United States and the West.
            You need to clean the leadership of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics from crooks, spies and traitors.
            Yes, and Russia to President Putin V.V. it is necessary to cleanse the 5th column of traitors, get rid of liberals in the leadership, the influence of the oligarchy. The experience of almost 25 years of development of Russia in the conditions of liberal "democracy" finally proves the fatality of this course for the state, the Russian World, and the people.
        3. +12
          3 July 2014 11: 28
          Militiamen at the front lines raise the Russian flags, ask for help from Russia, and the leadership of neither the DPR nor the LPR can still decide. Trying to play politics.
          And the majority of the population took a wait and see attitude. The miners didn’t even move yet.
          Donetsk, almost a millionth city, and there were fewer militias than scum on the swamp.
          So draw conclusions. Soon only Russian volunteers will fight.
          7000000 million population of the regions, and in the militia there is not even 0,25% (15000).
          It's a shame for people like Shooters.
        4. +3
          3 July 2014 11: 49
          Quote: Orik
          In Donetsk, everything is complicated, but also gradually improving

          Comrad, this is a very hasty conclusion.
          The events around the "assault" of the GUVD show exactly the continuation of the airport "dancing with death". Raskaz from the region "grandmother told" about the ephemeral driver of the "Schumacher", an abandoned KAMAZ with a weapon, and so on.
          Who in their right mind would go to war without ammunition?
          Well, the "breakthrough" on KAMAZ trucks at the end .....
          ............................................................
          Maybe we will find out, or maybe we won’t find out how everything really happened that day in DMA.
          Everything is almost like with the Kursk nuclear submarine.
      2. +6
        3 July 2014 09: 38
        All the same, there are enough zaslantsevs in the leadership of the DNI and LC, but it is a pity. Such a thing could be ruined.
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      4. -5
        3 July 2014 10: 14
        "I read it .. the unpleasant residue remained." In my opinion, an article with a `` smell '', customized. If everything was as it is written, i.e. if they had shot their own, then the noise in the Ukrainian press would have been immeasurable. And in both cases. If there is an overlap - look, the separatists are already killing each other; if the operation is SBU - see how we work. But there was silence on the part of the ATO leadership. It's just an attempt to blacken the militias of the southeast. But things themselves are not going well, they put a lot of people, but there are no results and are not expected.
        1. Aled
          +1
          3 July 2014 11: 52
          Even if “their own people have shot their own,” with what fright will the leadership of the Ukrainian security forces report this? By the way, they said that it was their special forces that worked and shared the awards with a clear conscience.
          1. 0
            3 July 2014 20: 21
            '' Even if "their own have shot their own." You need to read carefully. `` They shot their own '' - I mean the militias.
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      6. +6
        3 July 2014 10: 29
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I read .. the unpleasant sediment remained. It’s muddy there, I always felt everything. One Slavyansk, in my opinion, is fighting with a clear discipline thanks to Strelkov.

        I saw a number of records where people from volunteers complain about the mess and lack of control. It seems that such disparate actions are the result of lack of proper management. Here, perhaps, Russia needs to be done urgently, help set up general management, develop a strategy, and for this it is not necessary to send soldiers battalions , enough of two competent officers and a dozen mid-level commanders.
      7. +3
        3 July 2014 19: 10
        I agree, Donetsk shares the skin of an unkilled bear, one Strelkov is holding on from his last strength.
        Therefore, I said and say, all these figures of Donetsk like Tsarev are bullshit.
        Another is the basics of the raid in the rear - without security and communication NOT ONE MINUTE, without intelligence - nowhere.
        And look at the physiognomy of this Khodakovsky, that the physiognists are no longer there, so they are not needed here. Yes, and the surname strongly resembles one character whom they released from Kichi, so he goes abroad and let's water it right away.
        Strelkov seemed to be modest, it was necessary to all the Novorossiysk failed kings to the nail initially, and join forces.
    2. +1
      3 July 2014 14: 44
      Donetsk is muddy. In principle, there is politics. where politics is, it’s always muddy. Not for nothing that Strelkov says he doesn’t want to get into politics and will not ...
  2. +19
    3 July 2014 07: 39
    all around traitors, damn it, and how now to fight there, rightly say, there were no such vile wars in the world
    1. +1
      3 July 2014 08: 57
      yes no, everything is simpler just there around the housekeepers on this mess
    2. +11
      3 July 2014 09: 28
      During hostilities - "dry law". This is an axiom. You can relax later. The drunks are the first to die and have no right to command. A drunk in war is a traitor.
    3. Ujin61
      +4
      3 July 2014 11: 11
      Which commander is such a unit. Any guard and special forces become an uncontrollable herd without professional command. All the experience of the Second World War and local conflicts of recent times testify to this. Losses are also directly proportional.
    4. +3
      3 July 2014 11: 21
      Yes, there are traitors, of course, but the main problem is not betrayal, but the fact that the governing people in Donetsk are incompetent are random, or worse, have criminal roots.
      If there was a Donetsk shooter who shoots such personalities for two times, then the situation would be completely different.
  3. +7
    3 July 2014 07: 46
    interesting affairs, personalities are known, but alive, it is clear that it is beneficial on the one hand to the Ukrainian side, and on the other?
    1. +12
      3 July 2014 08: 28
      saagAre you tired of looking for bad Russia?

      War breeds heroes and traitors. It's about proportions. And the article is not about betrayal, but about enemies who have mimicked "friends" and work well.

      And further. Are there forces similar to the Strelkovsky in Donetsk and Lugansk? and who is in charge of them? The answer to this question will give an answer to the questions: Why does Lugansk and Donetsk not help Slavyansk? Why doesn't Strelkov make close contact with their leaders (haven't heard a kind word from him in relation to the somehow proclaimed presidents)? Why two republics and one battle point - Slavyansk? Where are the miners' divisions?

      I disagree with the author on the topic of organizing the destruction of passionaries by oligarchs. It's just that "specific" people set up strangers, people not controlled by them. Moreover, they are "black and Russian".
      1. +4
        3 July 2014 09: 26
        Quote: GrBear
        Where are the miners' divisions?

        The "miners' division" is being formed, not in Donetsk, and sort of like Strelkov's people.
  4. +16
    3 July 2014 07: 50
    Well then ...
    There is nothing surprising in the article. (Although it may perhaps not be called the ultimate truth either)
    Riots and betrayal, and stupidity, etc. always been observed in similar events.
    What to do? This was taught by V.I. Ulyanov (Lenin) with his Bolsheviks.
    In particular, they demanded that: "Hostile agents, speculators, thugs, hooligans, counter-revolutionary agitators, German (that is, Bandera) spies are shot at the scene of the crime."
    This article is also an illustration for those who are eager to send troops and vilify the GDP with bad words.
    The deployment of troops is the most lousy in this situation, the introduction of cluster munitions, with guided combat elements and without these OTRK warheads, this will not hurt. In response, only in response, to prevent shelling of the territory of the Russian Federation.
    Also, it will not hurt, in my purely personal opinion) night hunting of "night hunters" Mi-28 and "alligators" along the border. And also, in other cases, and KAB-500 (1500).
    It seems that such a "introduction" of these things into the body of the punitive army, not even total, will move the matter towards peace much faster than even the foreign ministers.
  5. Yes, I already read this material. Are Christmas sticks really? Doubt creeps in - maybe really whom we support there? Although I haven’t heard a bad word about Strelkov, the crumbs of hohlobaser mass media are certainly
    To all the dead - the land of rest in peace and eternal memory ...
  6. +12
    3 July 2014 07: 57
    The DPR generally relies on Strelkov alone, all of these pushilins, beards and other dubious personalities do not cause absolutely no trust.
    Would take an example from Lugansk.
    1. +19
      3 July 2014 09: 19
      Quote: Ek.Sektor
      beards
      - he is an ally of Strelkov and the only one who inspires confidence in Donetsk. And all these Pushilins (by the way, if anything is one of the top managers of the notorious MMM company from Mavrodi - does such a "track record" even hint at anything to you?) And the Khodakovskys and the Gubarevs-Bolotovs - some muddy ones that surfaced like d ... during the flood - I would not trust them ... They surfaced to sell this territory to the one who would give more for it. If they give more to the United States, they will give it back. Will Russia give more? - no problem. Kievans are not discussed - they have no dough ... I exaggerate, but I previously read a slightly different one, similar in general assessments and conclusions, but written in common language, on mats, I read from a militia who took a direct part in the events of the Donetsk airport. That militia lost faith in all this and left Novorossiya, returning to Russia. You can say: chickened out, received a mental trauma, etc. But I didn’t have such an impression, but the impression is that people looked with their heads, realized that it was dull here and stopped fighting. And his assessments and conclusions are very similar to the assessments and conclusions reached by El-Murid in this SABJ.
      In general, you still need to read material on this topic. I don’t understand a lot of things in Donetsk. Why until now a fully functional state has not come about? Crimea has developed over this time, and they have an incomprehensible loose formation, some in the woods, some for firewood, one at all agreed to 30 billion rubles from Russia for Donetsk. Why instead of deeds one declaration? We create a full-fledged army of Donetsk! Announced to the whole world. And where is it? We nationalize his assets at Akhmetov! Announced to the whole world. And hde, the promised expropriation of the expropriated? As Akhmetov was an oligarch, it is. What are you doing? The miners give two days for Bandera to lay down their arms, otherwise they will take up arms! And hde combat miners? Hde? in ...? (it's nice here!). In short, there are a lot of questions ... And the main question - is it much better that what formed here, what formed in Kiev? Well this is just a question, as long as the question to which I have no answer yet.
  7. Yaks
    -10
    3 July 2014 08: 00
    Something from the article does not smell good ...
    1. +1
      3 July 2014 13: 33
      You are right, it smells! But in the sense that the interests of the oligarchy, kaganate, national, geopolitical, economic, etc. are intertwined in the DPR. And all this against the background of the deaths of civilians, who once again became a bargaining chip. And in this situation, GDP is not easy to make the right decision oh. But still, there is confidence that Victory will be ours.
  8. Grenz
    +3
    3 July 2014 08: 02
    "The recovery of the Russian elite in recent years has been declarative and has not been accompanied by a radical redistribution of economic levers within the country. It is extremely doubtful that the bulk of the Russian elite (far from Russian, as everyone knows very well) supports the idea of ​​collecting Russian lands ..."
    All other events are a consequence of this state of affairs.
    I have no doubt that the companies that sold Poroshenko’s sweets from us will now return to this BUSINESS.
    One "Schumacher" in the detachment is a little harm, but when they are higher - that's the problem.
    But dill know by itself - everything is sold and bought.
    That's where the betrayal comes from.
    1. snn
      snn
      +1
      3 July 2014 10: 31
      And why wore declarative? But not criminal?
  9. +6
    3 July 2014 08: 02
    When all this happened, it was clear that the one hundred percent setup was organized to destroy the most combat-ready volunteers, the setup was setup, but from which side it was organized. Have the Ukrainians become so smart that they are carrying out such operations.
    1. WAN
      +4
      3 July 2014 08: 39
      Ukrainians - no. On the other side of the ocean there are "people" who know a lot about such bastard things ...
      1. +10
        3 July 2014 10: 20
        I think this is the case when the interests of the bastards on both sides converged. In principle, this is what we are talking about - that the mess began on the territory of Russia when the detachments were formed. Hence the conclusion - only those who do not inspire confidence should lead. At the moment there is only one such person - Igor Ivanovich! And all the projects of Kiev, Akhmetov and the 5th, sitting at our top in the form of Khodakovsky, Pushilin, and, I think, Tsarev do not inspire any confidence. Remember Crimea - where did it all start? Not with Aksenov and other representatives of the Armed Forces of Crimea. And with the Chaly unknown to anyone, who raised Sevastopol! And we saw what support the people gave him! And in Donbass there is no such thing - all the figures are in doubt, except for Strelkov, well, maybe also Mozgovoy. But they are MILITARY leaders, not political ones. That's the whole problem. And if in Luhansk Bolotov does business even more or less, although not always brilliantly, then this cannot be said about Donetsk. And with the "introduction" of Tsarev (not without the help of ours) - in general, everything becomes very confusing: in what capacity is he there and what are his powers?
        Therefore, I already have a question for those of those places (Donetsk) - do you have a normal person who is adequate and who can manage and defend the interests of the people, and not of any oligarchic groups on both sides of the border (Ukraine and Russia) )?
        PS In general, the article is very adequate, which has recently become a rarity on VO. Unlike "analysts" from the category of "anyhow" and various conspiracy theorists with "brilliant plans" - everything is written very competently, and the conclusions are very competent!
        1. 0
          3 July 2014 12: 04
          Quote: Horly
          Hence the conclusion - only those who not credible. At the moment there is only one such person - Igor Ivanovich!

          at least show a shadow of respect for Strelkov in the logic of writing your thoughts, dear.
        2. Alex donetsk
          0
          3 July 2014 22: 56
          no one really
  10. +3
    3 July 2014 08: 03
    Solid Makhnovshchina !!!!
    1. +4
      3 July 2014 09: 58
      Not quite right. Makhno Leva Zadov set the work of counterintelligence very tough. The current leadership of the LPR and DPR needs to learn from him. I understand that the pros from the 2nd KGB department are not there, but they could attract pensioners.
  11. +1
    3 July 2014 08: 06
    Well, they’d put a couple more corpses (organizers of these operations) into this morgue. What’s the problem?
    1. +4
      3 July 2014 08: 18
      Well, get down, put it down. What is the problem then?
  12. Fedya Sukhov
    +26
    3 July 2014 08: 09
    I haven’t performed here for a long time, but now I’ll write! It hurts to write, but I will write! A few words about my friend Bor! We graduated from Kiev VOKU in 1992, then we met as lieutenants in Ordzhonikidzevskaya in December of that year, I was the commander of a reconnaissance platoon, and he was the commander of the Special Forces group galloping around the mountains. Then there was Grozny, the New Year, the assault, well, you all know about this. A group from the Borin brigade was next to us in the hospital; the lads said that Borya was a prisoner in the mountains, also a well-known story. After being released from captivity, he quit the Red Army, went to serve in another structure, the anti-terrorist unit, and quit the lieutenant colonel several years ago. He worked in the security service of a large federal company. And now he is gone! I do not believe that Boris was merciful; he was not such a person. Unlike many experts and authors fighting for claudia at home, he was there and died for our brothers! Eternal memory to Boris Vyacheslavovich Sysenko and earth to you, brother, rest in peace!
    1. 0
      3 July 2014 08: 34
      The best go first.
  13. +5
    3 July 2014 08: 12
    In fact, an unpleasant impression .. How talented Strelkov is fighting with his comrades .. and here such bummers ..
  14. reg 71
    +5
    3 July 2014 08: 13
    Pay attention to the initials of the writer. Any situation can be imagined from different sides of the guys. It’s really very unfortunate that they may rest in peace.
  15. +6
    3 July 2014 08: 17
    In general, the author - El Murid --- means behind the article Anna - News news. You shouldn’t believe in everything - Anna News - through a very biased news agency. It is necessary to understand against whom and why the article is ordered
    1. 0
      3 July 2014 11: 11
      It is necessary to understand against whom and why the article is ordered
      I agree with you. Judging by the text of the article, it should have sowed doubts among readers and these judges were sown based on comments. And in war, all means are good! hi
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    3. 0
      3 July 2014 12: 11
      El-Murid and Anna broke up during the Libyan campaign. Sent Cossacks.
  16. +5
    3 July 2014 08: 23
    Good article, the enemy should also not be underestimated and "throwing hats" ... Even if some of the failures are not related to the actions of the enemy, you still need to engage in military coordination and the establishment of one-man command in military affairs ... we, as hockey fans, do not want to listen to the reasons and are waiting for victorious reports ... But mistakes in war are very expensive, and not only in terms of human losses, but also in terms of morale ...
    1. +4
      3 July 2014 09: 10
      Quote: Altona
      Strelkov has been talking about such shortcomings for a long time, but we, as hockey fans, do not want to listen to the reasons and are waiting for victorious reports ... But mistakes in the war turn out to be very expensive, and not only in terms of human losses, but also morale ...

      And something depends on you? Of course, you can put fewer likes, but I don’t think that this will affect the struggle for power at the top of these republics, it’s not a secret to anyone that there is no unity there and all these militias are more reminiscent of the gangs of Makhno, Krasnovtsev, Petlyury, Shkuro and so on - by the way the same in Ukraine and the same in civil
      1. +1
        3 July 2014 09: 45
        Quote: atalef
        all these militias are more reminiscent of the gangs of Makhno, Krasnovtsev, Petlyury, Shkuro and so on - by the way the same in Ukraine and the same in civilian

        It is YOU in a hurry! Yes Mixed everything in a bunch. request
        First, the gangs of Makhno (and not gangs, but free villagers, anarchy is the mother of order wink )
        Petliura gangs are the current power in Kiev. Also criminal guys, but not really gangs. They and acting ministers, not godfathers, and a president is present.
        Krasnov was the rightful ataman of the Great Don Army, what gangs are there.
        And Lieutenant General Shkuro commanded the Kuban Army - one of the most combat-ready formations of the All-Union Federal League of Forces.
        Then they both, hell and not bandits, began to cooperate with Hitler and ended badly ... Yes
        And you are gangs, gangs. Not a gang, but a militia, although its own fly in the ointment, of course, is present.
        It’s never done without it. Yes
  17. 0
    3 July 2014 08: 26
    Some commentators begin to write that it’s not worth believing in it. There would be no betrayal, there wouldn’t be so many victims. And the fact that in Russia there are many interested creatures in the death of the DNI and LNR militias is so true.
  18. +4
    3 July 2014 08: 33
    This "operation" immediately felt a bad smell. It looked too much like a setup for volunteers. Someone wanted to get rid of them. The suspicions are confirmed. The fact that no one was punished for this is another plus in the same piggy bank.
  19. +6
    3 July 2014 08: 34
    The information from the article must be "kept in mind", but there is no need to make hasty categorical conclusions, hang labels of betrayal "left and right." It is possible that after a certain time we will find out more accurate and truthful information. But there are facts that cannot be "avoided ": reading the story of Khodakovsky himself (if this is really the story of Khodakovsky himself) about the storming of the airport, I could not get rid of the feeling of blatant sloppiness displayed by the command of the Vostok battalion; absolutely incompatible with the concepts of military professionalism. MANPADS were taken. I was struck by Khodakovsky's confidence that he was not to blame for the failure of the operation and the death of people, since he was PROMISED from the enemy side - "there will be no shooting!" Even I, not a professional in military affairs, would not lead practically unarmed people to " storming the "airport. So think now: who is Khodakovsky, an absolute raspindyay in life or ......... Or" third ": the article contains far from true and inaccurate information me; Khodakovsky is not a traitor and not all the fault is on him, as they say, there were many commanders and several groups. Of course, there was a betrayal or professional work of the SBU, but now I would not ask to join Khodakovsky's detachment. I hope that after a while, find out the truth.
  20. +5
    3 July 2014 08: 37
    If everything that is written in the article is true, then it becomes clear WHAT A STRANGE WAR IS HELD IN THE SOUTH EAST? Why is there no unity in the armed opposition? WHY A PEOPLE LIVING IN THE SOUTH EAST IS PASSIVE?
  21. kay4yk
    -9
    3 July 2014 08: 39
    Who does this site work for? The essence of the material: everything has gathered in Russia - traitors, fifth columns, amateurs, wretched and crippled. It’s time to cover it.
    For users there is an avalanche of fear, the horrors of war. In general, the materials are selected, and this is obvious, with an anti-Russian focus. Well, then pump something. It would be better to help people understand the whole situation. Obviously, the war is not going against South-East, and not for shale gas. Everyone is wondering what will be the next move of the globalizers sitting behind the Alps ?!
  22. +4
    3 July 2014 08: 50
    But the miners continue to cut coal for Akhmetov and pay taxes to the junta ..
    The Ukrainian holding DTEK, owned by Rinat Akhmetov, refused to renew the contract for the supply of coal with the Russian side. For this reason, Novocherkasskaya State District Power Plant located in the Rostov Region has announced a tender for a new supplier, Izvestia writes on July 3.

    The contract expired in April this year. The company OGK-2, which manages the state district power station, said that in 2013 the volume of supplies from Ukraine amounted to a little more than 400 thousand tons, and this year coal from the neighboring country will not come at all.

    Miners force? something is not felt ..
  23. 0
    3 July 2014 08: 54
    Akhmetov’s empire exists more than one day, and he controlled not only Donetsk, but considerable time the whole country, and not only conversations, but also various power and bandit groups, so this situation will continue, unfortunately!
  24. 0
    3 July 2014 08: 59
    Quote: AUTHOR
    The operation to seize the Donetsk airport ... Her organization and planning was carried out by Khodakovsky

    Quote: AUTHOR
    On May 26, Khodakovsky ordered the preparations for the advancement of part of the detachment to capture the airport

    Quote: AUTHOR
    Boris Sysenko ... Instead of the easy capture promised by Khodakovsky, he led the detachment into a trap.


    Contradict yourself.
  25. 0
    3 July 2014 09: 01
    Just a coup in consciousness, and they rubbed us on the ruthless fascists killing the wounded !!!!!!!
    Ah, this is a schedule ..... in and "No. @! & ^ * ^% $, Betrayal ....," friendly fire ". ((((
    Fire and blood will clean the ranks to the wall of traitors !!!!! soldier
  26. tokin1959
    +3
    3 July 2014 09: 01
    The article explains a lot.
    the same Khodakovsky in the commercials boasted of various modern weapons, and this after the attack on the airport.
    Slavyansk has long been under siege, but nevertheless, no one has attempted a deblockade from the outside.
    Strelkov was even outraged by this video - the fact that the weapon is excellent could throw something or help.
    1. snn
      snn
      +2
      3 July 2014 10: 37
      Stelkov, the DNI is not needed; therefore, it will be merged. A pity, the only combat-ready unit. Well, and then the DPR is over - and this is the policy of Russia
  27. +7
    3 July 2014 09: 02
    Actually, I noticed one pattern. In case of defeat in battle, the guilty traitor is always sought among the command. But simply in the leadership of the DPR people who are not militarily competent (fools) are sitting. Yes, and they are the organizers too ... Enough time has passed, and the republic is decorative. Territory, finance, industry, are not adequately controlled. There is no public trust in such leaders (some high-profile statements). Hence the low activity of the population.
  28. +4
    3 July 2014 09: 02
    Thanks for the stuff. There really are a lot of questions for Khodakovsky.
    1. +4
      3 July 2014 09: 11
      Quote: vrach
      Thanks for the stuff. There really are a lot of questions for Khodakovsky.

      And to Pushilin?
      1. Mikhail Ishutin
        +1
        3 July 2014 10: 15
        Alexander good afternoon. I'm at a loss. You are in a good mood! Or there is no desire to troll.
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  29. +5
    3 July 2014 09: 18
    I learned about this from my guys who survived and went to Bes in the detachment; there is a great deal of truth here.
  30. NBN
    +7
    3 July 2014 09: 31
    The muddy situation in Donetsk. It seems that both the militia and the pro-Khunt forces are controlled from one center. Therefore, the statements and actions of the DPR are amorphous, and the anti-terrorist operation against it is sluggish. And then 120 volunteers appear. They are strangers and inconvenient to both the one and the other side at the level of the lower classes, and the "top" they are generally a hedgehog in the well ... So a "joint" operation was carried out to extract the hedgehog. All the muddies in Donetsk won: Akhmetov - with the grandmother, the authorities and his good with him, the junta - reported a major success, the "militia" seemed to prove the advantage of amorphous resistance, without sudden movements. On the same topic and refusal to privatize, the export of money and food from Donetsk, misunderstandings from the Ministry of Internal Affairs (it is for ours and for yours, joint patrolling and covering the Pravosek). Oh, it's not for nothing that Strelkov said that he didn't want to go to Donetsk under any sauce.
  31. +4
    3 July 2014 09: 41
    "Let's dream up" (Stirlitz - Mueller).
    If the truth content is 50% in this material, then several conclusions suggest itself.
    The first. The war is beneficial to Kiev (oligarchs) - the national guard is destroyed (the most revolutionary layers that participated in the Maidan).
    Second. A new technology was tested in Odessa - the most "violent" (the advanced part of society) were destroyed. And everything became quiet ... It became an example for all parties.
    Third. For the Russian Federation there is an opportunity to gather the most "violent" (former participants in all conflicts) and "burn" them in the furnace of the war, so that in the event of revolutionary events in the Russian Federation there is no one to resist.
    Fourth. Strange, but for some reason the population of the East of Ukraine is fleeing with the peasants from this territory without helping the militias.
    The question begs - and for what people perish, both on the one hand and on the other.
  32. 0
    3 July 2014 09: 50
    It’s clear that much can be beaten and shifted to info .. From the very beginning it was clear that there was a lot of confusion and misunderstanding at the airport .. but there was little information .. Yes, and with the latest showdowns in Donetsk, something was unintelligible. .Not much success there, unlike Strelkova .., which is crushed to the fullest .., is not heard .. Now His words are clear .., that in order to restore order in Donetsk .., He himself needs with the battalion .., but he has no opportunity for it ..
  33. 0
    3 July 2014 09: 50
    I would very much like to read the "review" on this article from Strelkov, or better the joint general conclusion of Strelkov and "Abwehr", of course, without details.
  34. 0
    3 July 2014 10: 03
    Quote: MIKHAN
    ... In Donetsk, everything is complicated, but it is also gradually getting better, few resources, because our brave, acting officers are in no hurry to go to the rescue, and without power resources to clean up the traitors and Makhnovists in any way.

    And where are the resources? When the main anti-resource fully manifests itself - internal betrayal. Otherwise, this can not be called.
  35. +5
    3 July 2014 10: 12
    A careful reading and additional analysis of the facts gives the impression that it was a large-scale and well-planned setup for Russia. A large number of volunteers from Russia in the forefront, a trap in the building, wide coverage of the results in the world media with a demonstration of the corpses of militias.
    1. 0
      3 July 2014 10: 52
      Quote: maximus235
      there was a large-scale and well-planned setup for Russia.

      Here, true, all together.
      And without sensibility, and fraud, and betrayal.
      Of course, from a military point of view, the airport should be blocked, as in Lugansk (see the remnants of IL-76) and shoot 2-3 mines per hour from one direction, and 3-4 PTRS shops from the other. Yes, to exclude the possibility of water and food supply, and to smelly smoke, yes, if they do not give up or leave, the MLRS would not be in the way. A few days and a hat.
      Then for some reason they climbed into the airport building, some kind of agreements with the enemy - and sit down and eat?
      Without a single guide, rebellion is doomed.
      Let's sincerely hope that they will come to this, even if some "sent insurgents" and the criminal bastard have to be resolved.
  36. +1
    3 July 2014 10: 33
    RUSSIAN MILITARY dug in at the border.

  37. 0
    3 July 2014 10: 34
    The beginning of the article was understandable, then it makes you think, but the end of the article becomes incomprehensible.

    What to do?

    In the situation of uncertainty and the lack of accurate information about the decisions taken by the Russian leadership, however, it is necessary to formulate a definite position on the Ukrainian issue. In particular, for those people who have a certain military experience and intend to take part in the hostilities in the South-East. Regardless of the mood of the Russian elite, the future of Russia is now really being decided in Ukraine. Very soon, it will probably be decided on the Central Asian borders of the country.

    If you have no experience of participation in hostilities, or at least military service, then it is better to abandon the idea of ​​a trip. Unprepared romantics die first. Try to get basic military skills, good, now there is such an opportunity without the need to serve in the army, even if it involves some expenses. They will still be useful to you to protect the motherland in the future.

    If there is experience and motivation, check the transition channel offered by the employees of “public organizations” and “charitable foundations”.



    The beginning of the article said that professionals are fighting there, and here the author ended up with romantics ...
  38. 0
    3 July 2014 10: 35
    The rollback is gaining momentum ...
  39. 0
    3 July 2014 10: 36
    Quote: papas-57
    "I read it .. the unpleasant residue remained." In my opinion, an article with a `` smell '', customized. If everything was as it is written, i.e. if they had shot their own, then the noise in the Ukrainian press would have been immeasurable. And in both cases. If there is an overlap - look, the separatists are already killing each other; if the operation is SBU - see how we work. But there was silence on the part of the ATO leadership. It's just an attempt to blacken the militias of the southeast. But things themselves are not going well, they put a lot of people, but there are no results and are not expected.


    If the Khodokovsky agent is the SBU or one of the oligarchs, then pedaling these events in the press precisely from such angles means significantly shattering his authority in the eyes of ordinary militias, and therefore losing a valuable agent of influence.
    as a former operative, he would be very surprised at the lack of attempts to introduce agents and provocateurs into the militia. Especially when you consider that the counterintelligence agencies of New Russia (if any) are probably cut off from databases and forensic records, which will significantly complicate their work.
    1. Andrey82
      +1
      3 July 2014 11: 05
      Nevertheless, Khodakovsky did not answer for the failure at the airport. I don’t know how the remaining East fighters generally continue to serve under a command of this type ?! Waiting for him to lead them all under machine guns with Nurses?

      Apparently - the lion's share of Donetsk chieftains - "moles" of Akhmetov and the SBU. Recently, they tried to accuse Bezler of the state. coup, etc. Mui Ne. Apparently, he began to guess who actually sits in the DPR leadership. Perhaps only Boroday as Strelkov's man is beyond suspicion. Until the "moles" are cleaned out, there will be betrayal and failures.
  40. +1
    3 July 2014 10: 47
    An interesting article makes you think. But if the troops were to enter, we would have to rely on the opinion and information of the leaders of Donetsk and Lugansk. But on the other hand, Donetsk is not bombed, nor bombarded. Maybe there really are agreements and the ultimate goal is to clean up shale gas production sites.
  41. dohtur
    +1
    3 July 2014 10: 48
    Fushington needed a war in Ukraine to draw Russia and put all the dogs on it. (Starting from the restoration of Ukrainians to the public debt of Fashington, which can be written off, because Russia will be an aggressor. Plus control of gas supplies to Europe)
    Attention question: how to organize it? After all, just so SE will not bomb, kill.
    Accordingly, immediately after the mudan, laws are passed so that the Russians in the southeast are fucked up. But even so they themselves will not rise. Therefore, organizers are needed.
    And they appeared there first.
    Who?
    This is the business of the special services.
  42. Andrey82
    0
    3 July 2014 10: 58
    Khodakovsky - "mole" and Pushilin, apparently - too. Death to Dobass's traitors.
    1. Snipe
      +1
      3 July 2014 14: 30
      The thing is dark
  43. RAA
    +1
    3 July 2014 11: 10
    Franchetti, on the contrary, argued that the militias did not receive help from Russia.
  44. o11g
    +2
    3 July 2014 11: 16
    I believe every word of the author, it’s a shame to tears for our people and more and more evil to our government for their indifference and connivance to squander such a credit of trust after the Crimea, we must try
    You look in what suits Pushilin performs and with what hairstyles from stylists.
  45. Andrey82
    +1
    3 July 2014 11: 19
    Particularly good are the last paragraphs, which clearly describe why Putin does not want to defend the Russians. For our "power" ("moles"), the first and main enemy is precisely the Russians.
  46. 0
    3 July 2014 11: 34
    The article is interesting. But there is no unified command in the Southeast. Who can help everyone, in a row? They would unite in the Single Front, with a single command! All groups act separately.
  47. Aled
    +7
    3 July 2014 11: 39
    The article very correctly describes the events and draws conclusions that are close to real.
    I will try to describe my own impressions of events and the situation as a whole.
    A few years ago I visited Donetsk. Actually, I've been there more than once, but the last couple of visits were especially significant. I talked with different people - and with ordinary inhabitants and with businessmen and with comrades from the regional Department of Internal Affairs of Donetsk. So everyone, absolutely everyone (often reluctantly) talked about the fact that nothing serious can be done in Donetsk and the region without the blessing of Akhmetov. He is there a power standing above the Law.
    Now information about the sources of resistance, collected from various sources.
    After the events of the Maidan, a period of anarchy was established in the country. Old cadres were pushed aside from the trough and new "hungry" cadres came. Given the high activity of radicals and revolutionary sentiments, a new redistribution of property was inevitable. Who of the oligarchs will like it? There is such a principle: if it is impossible to avoid ugliness, they need to be led. This principle was used by Poroshenko and Kolomoisky, but Akhmetov decided to play his own card. In a region where no one can sneeze without his permission, protest moods suddenly arise. All this is somehow strange ... The general idea was this: there are protests, riots, seizure of buildings. When the central government turns out to be powerless (and how else, if all the siloviki are under Akhmetov), ​​then Rinat appears on a white horse and with a regal movement of his hand calms everyone down. Not for this, of course, but for guarantees of the inviolability of business and personal assets. The game was broken by people "from the outside". Especially Strelkov. A center of power emerged that was not under Akhmetov's control, and, moreover, it was well armed and ideological. It is almost impossible to negotiate or buy with such people. So Rinat Leonidovich stepped aside and observes the development of the situation from the outside.
    And what about Russia? And on her part, there were no special plans. Suffice it to recall the advice to delay the referendum, it was necessary to figure out how to beat the situation. Such plans are not being implemented "off the wheels". There is, of course, some help for the rebels, but this is so ... so that it does not subside and there is something to bargain with with Kiev. Meanwhile, they are trying to somehow shake off all the "ideological" people, so that only one center of power remains in Donetsk, with which Kiev will then negotiate through the mediation of the Kremlin. And everyone is happy ... except for Arrow ... living heroes cause heartburn in power.
    PS Akhmetov’s rebels never nationalized anything. Moreover - even in the Crimea all his property remained under his control. That's it ... And what do you want if its official turnover reaches 30% of Ukraine’s GDP?
    1. Magyar
      +2
      3 July 2014 12: 25
      I agree with you. It’s a pity Strelkova and the rest of the guys will merge them as soon as possible, and if they break down the corridor and leave they have problems at home, such heroes of our government are not needed, they are too dangerous. I estimate that somewhere in two months the Ukrainians will finish off the remaining centers of resistance against the army with heavy weapons there is no chance of fighting. With regard to the loss of civilian life, our Mead will puff out his cheeks again and express his protest.
  48. 0
    3 July 2014 11: 40
    Quote: kay4yk
    Who does this site work for? The essence of the material: everything has gathered in Russia - traitors, fifth columns, amateurs, wretched and crippled. It’s time to cover it.
    For users there is an avalanche of fear, the horrors of war. In general, the materials are selected, and this is obvious, with an anti-Russian focus. Well, then pump something. It would be better to help people understand the whole situation. Obviously, the war is not going against South-East, and not for shale gas. Everyone is wondering what will be the next move of the globalizers sitting behind the Alps ?!

    I don’t like the site, get out of here ... Personally, I really like the site ...
    1. +3
      3 July 2014 12: 20
      Here's what else I found on this topic: http: //pauluskp.com/news/2a5f48a34



      All day talking with friends from Donetsk, trying to understand what happened in the city.

      So, the militants of Bes (Bezler) from Gorlovka came to Donetsk to try to seize the regional Department of Internal Affairs, but they faced fierce resistance.

      The Gorlovites opposed:

      1. Battalion "Vostok".
      2. "Stronghold"
      3. Cops
      4. Cop special forces "Falcon"

      As one journalist put it - "what a vinaigrette!" I don't even know who is superfluous on this list - the cops' special forces or "Oplot" with "Vostok".

      It seems that the demon was discarded, and then they began to negotiate with Avakov to free the building, which Avakov himself was gladly glad. Moreover, the Donetsk militants called the people of Bes terrorists and said that they fought with him in the framework of the anti-terrorist operation.

      Trying to understand this, it is difficult to maintain mental health, I agree. But if you know the background - everything is logical and predictable.

      And the background is as follows:

      "Oplot" is originally a cop structure consisting of so-called "social activists". Public activists work with cops, they stand next to traffic cops in civilian clothes to sign falsified protocols, patrol the streets with police stations, and, in general, catch the cops. People absolutely controlled by cops, firmly sitting on all sorts of hooks. "Oplot" positions itself as "partner" of the DPR. That is, it does not obey the DPR.

      It was "Oplot" that at the beginning of the pogroms took the Donetsk City Council under protection. There was no destruction in the building, the city council still works normally, no one touches the mayor Lukyanchenko. Until recently, the flag of Ukraine fluttered over the City Council, and only on May 24 it was replaced by the flag of Donetsk. That is, just a month ago. And there is still no DNR flag there!

      "Oplot" took under protection the residence of Akhmetov, which has not yet been plundered. Together with the Vostok battalion, the oplotovites convinced the crowd of suckers that it was not worth taking the oligarch's residence by storm. Well, as convinced - just stood at the gate with machine guns, after which the communist old women who wished for "excursions" on Akhmetov's estate obediently dispersed.
      1. -2
        3 July 2014 16: 25
        So, the militants of Bes (Bezler) from Gorlovka came to Donetsk to try to seize the regional Department of Internal Affairs, but they faced fierce resistance.


        Aha, then the dill went on the attack, and the "demon" or "heaven" went to the showdown. Enchanting.

        It seems that the demon was discarded, and then they began to negotiate with Avakov to free the building, which Avakov himself was gladly glad. Moreover, the Donetsk militants called the people of Bes terrorists and said that they fought with him in the framework of the anti-terrorist operation.


        Yeah, avakov on Facebook is happy about a lot. For example, a bombed-out "camp with 250 terrorists". Or 1100 (100500) terrorists killed.

        . Until recently, the flag of Ukraine fluttered over the City Council and only on May 24 it was replaced by the flag of Donetsk. That is, only a month ago.


        Yeah, a month ago, out of three ...

        So, is someone really so naive that he believes that Pushilin or Akhmetov or the stronghold or the east in the presence of GDP in the Kremlin steers in Donetsk. Who knows what they call themselves there. Even the president had pocket money and nothing. Well, business is divided - as God himself commanded. Capitalism, damn it ... It’s also necessary to understand that Akhmetov gave a rollback to both sides, that’s why they don’t touch him.
  49. 0
    3 July 2014 12: 07
    Although Pushilin was for the most part decoration, but when in an interview to a question about his participation in MMM, he said that financial pyramids were not prohibited and there wasn’t anything criminal in his participation. In short, for him, and Novorossia, too, MMM seems.
    We need an honest leader with his army. Strelkov, Brain, Demon or someone else who pulls the reins and creates a good repressive apparatus operating under the laws of wartime. God grant that he would be found and stood at the helm
    Who will tell you at least one effective decision of the leadership of the two republics? Only trending about how everyone will live well in New Russia. Telephone, telegraph, railway station, factories, etc. in whose hands with rare exceptions?
    1. Aled
      +2
      3 July 2014 12: 15
      The problem is that an "honest leader" is not always a good politician. Strelkov knows how to fight ... and then? Why didn't he take control of himself? Isn't it obvious that the scattered forces will not be able to withstand the regular army?
  50. 0
    3 July 2014 12: 09
    Everlasting memory!
    1. Snipe
      +1
      3 July 2014 14: 31
      Eternal memory to those who died for New Russia!
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  54. +2
    3 July 2014 12: 19
    continued ....

    1. At "Lux"


    After that, “Vostok” set up a powerful checkpoint with an armored personnel carrier on the approaches to “Lux”, on the Motel.

    2. The checkpoint stands and hints with reinforced concrete that the conversations in the DPR about the nationalization of Akhmetov’s property do not interest him.


    Moving on.

    "Vostok" unexpectedly receives fraternal help - recruits from Chechnya and Ossetia, after which it throws them right off the wheels at the airport, where Caucasians are killed. In the “East” the old camaraderie is being re-established, which is not disturbed by zealous foreigners who came with completely different goals. Tricky!

    After the massacre at the airport, “Vostok” unexpectedly arrives at the Regional State Administration and harshly disperses the DPR suckers who have accumulated there. The suckers are offended, but disperse because they don’t have machine guns. Some of the suckers are detained, and the Regional State Administration is freed from the barricades.

    “Vostok” is based not in the Regional State Administration, where the pushylins and bearded men continue to sit, but in the 5th sector in Donetsk. Separately.

    “Vostok” is led by the former head of the Donetsk “Alpha”, an SSB officer. Chekist. Not a sucker.

    All this time, the not at all heroic-looking mayor of Donetsk, Alexander Lukyanchenko, is publicly giving the DPR a bad name. He is not shot for this, he is not dragged to the basement, he is not drugged, he is not forced to clean toilets. The flag of Donetsk continues to flutter proudly over the city council, and the touched Ukrainian public offers Lukyanchenko to lead the region. Ukrainians saw Superman in him:


    But the secret is simple: “Vostok” and “Oplot” have machine guns, but the DPR, it seems, only have Borodai and Pushilin’s guards with guns. And anyway, who is Pushilin? Akhmetov's six. And Mayor Lukyanchenko is wow! Also Akhmetov's six.

    Today Bes (Bezler) tried to disrupt the Donetsk idyll. !

    Strelkov (Girkin) frowned at the carnage in Donetsk from his beautiful distance - and spat. He has a real bloody reconstruction, and not some kind of imitation!

    So what is the DPR, gentlemen of the jury? Who really controls the city? Does he sleep softly in Koncha-Zaspa? Will you be home soon?

    In my opinion, the combination of the cop special forces, the Oplotovites and the Vostokites is not at all absurd, nor is Avakov’s enthusiasm for this. They kindly agreed to vacate the regional police department building because they value the work of the police.

    Akhmetov’s largest factories were liberated long ago, along with Mariupol, and in Donetsk, where his beloved Arena stands, a cozy get-together has formed. The Lochs built a Matrix in the form of the DPR. Everyone is happy.

    If I'm right, Donetsk will not be bombed. “Vostok” will be absorbed into Akhmetov’s private security, where it came from, and “Oplot” will return to the cops. Avakov will even give them certificates of honor for their faithful service. And Pozhidaev received an order.

    Donetsk, like Mariupol recently, will be liberated by Ukrainian volunteer battalions.
  55. +1
    3 July 2014 12: 46
    The ending of the article sheds light on its purpose. That is, Russia leaked everything and everyone, and even got in trouble with the SBU, that is, with the CIA (how could it be otherwise if Khodakovsky is an agent of the SBU, but he is quietly released from the FSB).
    From the very beginning, the article seemed not entirely logical, but by the end everything fell into place.
    1. I have a question, why was a dummy MANPADS taken if normal MANPADS were not taken? Our dill are so shy that they are afraid of one pipe, from which, moreover, fire is not fired. The answer is quite simple. There were no normal MANPADS. That's why they took a dummy. If anyone remembers, the first ukrovertushki were shot down a little later in Slavyansk from grenade launchers or even anti-tank systems and a heavy machine gun. And only then MANPADS appeared en masse.
    2. The actions of the militia commanders are strange; if the Ukrainian special forces are “establishing positions” before their eyes, then why didn’t they do anything? Besides, something tells me that if the special forces had intervened in the case, no one would have been able to escape. It is not so difficult for special forces to knock out KAMAZ trucks on the open road. And the cover group, which was supposed to conduct fire contact with them during the KAMAZ breakthrough, was simply doomed to destruction by superior special forces forces.
    3. Chechens have never been whipping boys. Do you think the characters listed in the article would have lived long if the Chechens had died as a result of their betrayal? Blood feud, I hope, is known to everyone. It is also doubtful that the Chechen commander would have allowed himself to be led into battle in the dark. Plus an episode when the Chechens are the last to remain on the roof, hit by aircraft, completely without cover. Without even touching the bravery of the Chechens, they value their lives, especially since they are not fighting for their land, and, being professionals, they would not show off on the roof under airstrikes.

    I won’t give the rest of the tensions and extensions. What has been said is quite enough to understand that the bast is not in line. I will only say that the article is clearly provocative and is aimed at promoting the canard of discord in the camp of the DPR command. Like, recoil from the “Demon”. In the style of semi-mafia showdowns of the 90s.
    I don’t know what Pushilin, Khodakovsky, Borodai and others are. But you need to understand that these are not the leaders of the uprising. These are puppets and, at most, political figures and field commanders. Whereas management is carried out from Moscow through curators. The situation in Ukraine is too important for the GDP not to plant its “advisers” there. Therefore, some kind of showdown between personalities may take place. But they won't cause serious problems. So I ask you not to succumb to provocations and independently comprehend what you read.
  56. +1
    3 July 2014 13: 04
    Very similar to jeans
  57. yacht
    +2
    3 July 2014 13: 14
    Well, I think now everyone understands why they are encircling Slavyansk, storming the approaches to Lugansk and practically not touching Donetsk. Why touch him? There will be time, there is a fifth column and a traitor sits on top of a traitor.
  58. ZSP
    +2
    3 July 2014 13: 18
    I’m just wallowing in this boot, drive 120 people with a wealth of experience to be shot, organize a meeting for the breakthrough group in a car, expose the column to be shot by the border guards... and after that move freely, without problems - he has hypnosis or something, how is it? May be???

    After all, really, how can you prepare a blacking operation, how can you appoint as commander a person without leadership experience, who at a crucial moment begins to ferment again, “If Khodokovsky is an agent of the SBU or one of the oligarchs, then to pedal these events in the press precisely from such angles means to significantly undermine his authority in the eyes of ordinary militias, therefore losing a valuable agent of influence. (c) - old rat"
    Those. These facts only increase his authority.

    Again I don't understand anything... No.

    And it’s a pity for the guys, they just leaked it again.... And most importantly, why???
  59. +1
    3 July 2014 13: 18
    The article is interesting from the point of view of comparing facts, but at the same time there are only more doubting volunteers, and the setup is really specific, occupying the terminal did not give anything, unlike the same control towers that could give control over the runway, airspace and ground territory at a decent distance , sad but true
  60. +1
    3 July 2014 15: 08
    I think that having provoked large and senseless losses, someone tried, if not to stop completely, then at least to significantly reduce
    a stream of militias from outside wanting to help Novorossiya.
  61. +1
    3 July 2014 17: 15
    It’s a pity guys... Distrust of commanders is a terrible thing in war, and after such “operations” more than one soldier probably uttered the word: “BETRAY!” You can’t just get rid of such sentiments..
  62. Leprechaun
    +2
    3 July 2014 19: 47
    Quote: snn
    Stelkov, the DNI is not needed; therefore, it will be merged. A pity, the only combat-ready unit. Well, and then the DPR is over - and this is the policy of Russia

    And what does Russian politics have to do with it? There is chaos and Makhnovshchina in Donetsk, there are a lot of field commanders, and Russian politics is to blame. In Donetsk, the Akhmetovskys and his brigadiers from the LUX organized crime group initially caused a stir. This is where the legs grow. It has long been said that Strelkov destroyed all the plans of the Akhmetovskys in Donetsk with his active actions in Slavyansk. Until the Akhmetovites are cleared out, there will be chaos and betrayal in Donetsk. And Bolotov’s position towards the DPR is clear.
  63. Leprechaun
    0
    3 July 2014 20: 27
    Quote: 30143
    Third. For the Russian Federation there is an opportunity to gather the most "violent" (former participants in all conflicts) and "burn" them in the furnace of the war, so that in the event of revolutionary events in the Russian Federation there is no one to resist.

    This assumption can be immediately ruled out. Realities in the Russian Federation indicate the opposite.
  64. 0
    3 July 2014 20: 28
    The locals in Donbass know and see much more than what is written in the article, which is why, perhaps, they don’t really want to join the militia... And the GDP knows even more... They don’t want to help Akhmetov save his business, and people are hostages. The bar is quarreling - the slaves' forelocks are cracking. But what about people who are constantly being killed for no reason??? Feelings and reason are slowly diverging. At the same time, if we pass, then we will be next, no matter what.
  65. 0
    3 July 2014 22: 02
    not everything is so simple there in Donetsk, unlike Lugansk, guys, believe me, I was personally convinced
  66. raf
    0
    3 July 2014 23: 26
    It is unfortunate that as a result of betrayal, incompetence, and politicking, people are dying who, with a pure heart, went to defend the SE from the fascist right-wingers. In addition, counterintelligence work is not being carried out both on the territory of Russia and the DPR. Eternal memory to the fighters against Ukrainian fascism!!!
  67. 0
    4 July 2014 01: 20
    Quote: papas-57
    ; if the SBU operation - watch how we work

    Make it clear that their agents are working among the militias, and perhaps decipher their sources?
  68. 0
    4 July 2014 03: 38
    lonely (2) sorted everything out. Politics is a vile thing. But we need to get even with the traitors for our people from the Russian Federation, I will take revenge!
  69. Hajj
    0
    4 July 2014 07: 21
    Reading what El-Murid wrote, one cannot say that 60-70 killed were the result of Khodakovsky’s machinations. All that is visible is incompetence in the organization. The blame lies with him, as the head of the entire operation.

    1) “They received information that soldiers of the National Guard of Ukraine were coming from the airport to break into Donetsk” - from whom did they receive it?

    “By this point in time, people in Donetsk already knew about the failure of the operation. An operation was hastily prepared to release the detachment that had occupied the airport. About 400-500 people took part in it. The main problem remained the lack of coordination and unified command. The battles in the vicinity of the airport on May 26 were fought by: 1 ) Khodakovsky’s “Vostok” battalion and a detachment of the former Donetsk “Alpha”, 2) Boroday’s fighters, 3) Zdrilyuk’s detachment, 4) Pushilin’s detachment, 5) “Oplot”.
    These units also suffered significant casualties from sniper fire, as well as possibly from friendly fire amid poor coordination. Snipers worked on almost all approaches to the airport: in the area of ​​the METRO store (two mercenaries from the Baltic states were destroyed), from the side of SPARTAK (the sniper was working from a construction crane), from the side of the cemetery and runway, from one of the 9-story buildings on Stratonauts Street."

    400-500 people shooting in all directions, near the airport, railway, Tochmash, Putilovsky Bridge - it doesn’t surprise me that someone decided that hundreds of Ukrainians were advancing from the airport and issued the command to shoot at everything that moves from the side airport. Who said that Khodakovsky gave this command???

    The other day I read the testimony of an eyewitness living in the Putilovka area. First, a blue KamAZ truck passed by, in which there were several wounded. After 10-15 minutes the second one (which then capsized). The militia were lying in it and shooting without a break back and to one side.

    2) About "moles". “Subsequently, in his backpack, which was accidentally opened (after the battle for the airport on May 26), the following characteristic items were found: 1) a walkie-talkie for communication with aviation, 2) an iCOM scanner, 3) an AK magazine, filled with tracers (one of acceptable ways to “illuminate” a target in battle - with tracers), 4) a 32 GB flash drive, on which in electronic format there were special instructions on conducting sabotage operations behind enemy lines, including instructions on adjusting artillery and aviation fire."

    And where is the incriminating evidence? When going to storm an airport, all this is not bad, and you even need to have it, but God himself ordered a flash drive with instructions for conducting combat operations. For whom was "The Partisan's Companion" printed during the Second World War???

    “On the channel of the Ukrainian radio that was given as a “gift”, negotiations were intercepted between one of the spotters and the mortar gunners” - what! And an iCOM scanner would do the same perfectly.

    3) If “Schumacher” and “Odessa” are “moles”, why didn’t anyone care about their role and future fate?

    4) Curator “Sergei Ivanovich” appoints riot policeman “Iskra” as one of the leaders of the groups - weren’t there others more suitable? And then he drinks and puts it on everything?
  70. Hajj
    0
    4 July 2014 07: 22
    5) From what side is Khodakovsky involved in the photographs from the morgue? Oversight? Yes. But at least a couple of videos with a bunch of corpses (one at night, the other apparently in the morning) have already been posted on the Internet. Then there was another one, where an “Oplot” fighter was standing near a van with the dead (many decided that this was “Right Sector” because of the same colors, a black T-shirt with a red inscription)

    6) And lastly: Sysenko
    “Around 10.00, Khodakovsky completed negotiations with the command of the Kirovohrad special forces and, together with the fighters of the former Donetsk Alpha, left the airport. Direct command was then exercised by Boris Sysenko.”

    There was then an interview with one of those who stormed the airport. I’M GIVING FROM MEMORY (I think many people remember this): “We gave them time until so-and-so, then we checked with Moscow time, and then hit them with all guns. Some smart guy fired a thermobaric at the “box”, probably half of Donetsk "I saw a fireball. They shot at the station so that they wouldn't bring reinforcements to anyone who didn't need it." El Murid has nothing about this. Those. Aviation, as it were, would have existed later???

    “In fact, Boris Sysenko, who was assigned to the groups to lead the operation, withdrew from command after realizing what had happened, sending the fighter to the duty-free store to buy alcohol.”

    Was it not Sysenko who failed the operation? As a result - aviation, the first losses, and the thumping "General". From which side is Khodakovsky here?
  71. Hajj
    0
    4 July 2014 07: 24
    7) Someone “Schumacher” appeared yesterday in the comments to el-Murid, after someone wrote his contact details and accused “Old” of compromising him.
  72. Hajj
    0
    4 July 2014 07: 25
    That is:
    “Meanwhile, the completely wrong “Vostok” waited until 2 o’clock in the afternoon (let me remind you that martial law was declared in Novorossiya from 24), then waited another hour, debating whether the time in Moscow had been changed or not, and fucked up all the freaks from all the guns that he had To the bad luck of the Svidomites, it was not in vain that the windows in the border were cut down - AGSs are not like a dog, the boxes that twitched from their side eagerly ran away, meeting the boundaries of all systems (what kind of thermobaric genius hit the box - I don’t know, but this fireball saw the floor of Donetsk - and the victims no.. Almost. Because a moving target is not a target for this BP)... The junta’s point is not made of iron - did I already say? The arriving helicopters at first became impudent, having received MANPADS on board, they somehow became sad - and decided to shoot heat traps during each attack."

    http://gwinplane.livejournal.com/1251557.html
  73. Hajj
    0
    4 July 2014 07: 34
    Quote: muhomor
    Actually, I noticed one pattern. In case of defeat in battle, the guilty traitor is always sought among the command. But simply in the leadership of the DPR people who are not militarily competent (fools) are sitting. Yes, and they are the organizers too ... Enough time has passed, and the republic is decorative. Territory, finance, industry, are not adequately controlled. There is no public trust in such leaders (some high-profile statements). Hence the low activity of the population.


    Here I am about the same.
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    4 July 2014 07: 56
    8) El Murid writes “AGS-17 “Flame”, traveling in one of the blown up KAMAZ trucks, soon surfaced in Pushilin’s detachment.” Question: whose people exactly shot the KamAZ? At the same time, Khodakovsky did not say anything that Vasya was to blame. But Pushilin was soon given a kick in the ass by the Donetsk Regional State Administration. Questions, questions......
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    5 July 2014 13: 58

    video on the topic
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    16 October 2016 20: 40
    I wonder why no one writes about the second assault on the DAP, which was led by Strelkov (Girkin) and which was also successfully failed with heavy losses. The article reeks of biased shit.

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