Anush Levonyan: Karabakh conflict and Russia: is there a choice between a "friend" and an "ally"?

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Anush Levonyan: Karabakh conflict and Russia: is there a choice between a "friend" and an "ally"?The obvious warming that has recently occurred in relations between Russia and Azerbaijan is perceived in Armenia with a certain and quite understandable concern. The anxious feeling, first of all, is connected with the fact that, in the opinion of most local experts, Moscow may try to “draw” Baku into its Eurasian integration projects. And this, as it seemed until recently, is unprofitable for the Armenian side, since it depreciates Yerevan’s main foreign policy trump card, which, having declared its desire to become a member of the Customs Union (CU) of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, as well as the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU), managed to “get around” "Azerbaijan and strengthen its position, first of all, in matters of security and in the process of the Karabakh settlement.

Now, however, it turns out that in reality, official Yerevan looks at things from a completely different point of view. The head of the Armenian delegation at the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly session held in Baku, an experienced politician, MP from the ruling Republican Party of Armenia (RPA) Artashes Geghamyan gave an interview to the Azerbaijani portal haggin.az, which was so unexpected in content that it has not even caused comments. Probably, it takes time for Armenian political scientists to "digest" the conceptual attitudes contained in Geghamyan's statements, which at first glance are radically different from the long-established ideas.

The main postulates of the interview are: Azerbaijan, Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh will live in peace and harmony, for which it is necessary to create a situation in which the common, and first of all, economic interests of these countries and Nagorno-Karabakh intertwine; need peaceful coexistence, rapid economic development of the entire region, the re-emergence of friendly relations between the two peoples-neighbors, so that the Azerbaijanis feel at home in Armenia, and the Armenians feel comfortable in Baku. After all, "we are doomed to live together, and smart neighbors trade together, spend holidays," but they do not shoot each other at all. The apotheosis was the statement that Armenia "really wants" Azerbaijan’s entry into the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU). According to Geghamyan, this would greatly help in resolving the existing problems. "Who remembers today - who owns Alsace? (Historically controversial province on the border of France and Germany - REGNUM comment). Already, Alsace is French or German. It is the capital of a united Europe. And there is no such thing as a border ", said Artashes Geghamyan.

It should be recalled that on May 29 at a meeting of the Supreme Eurasian Economic Council in Moscow, when, among others, the question of Yerevan joining the EEU was considered, President Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan introduced the presidential colleagues with a letter from Azerbaijani leader Ilham Aliyev, which, in particular, said that "Armenia should become a member of the EAEU within the framework of the borders in which it joined the WTO." Yerevan took it surprisingly calmly, President Serzh Sargsyan noted that Armenia has never claimed to join the Eurasian integration associations together with Karabakh (as we will note, many observers believed without good reason). And in dozens of other international organizations, including the UN, Armenia is within the framework of officially recognized borders.

Thus, even if Ilham Aliyev (and, which is not excluded, Nursultan Nazarbayev) tried to put Armenia in a sensitive situation, it did not succeed. On the contrary, this demarche, as it turns out, served, apparently, as a kind of starting point for the subsequent unexpected statements of Artashes Geghamyan. The main question, however, is whether these statements are sensational in their essence and whether they are not a forced move from the Armenian side. It seems no. Just look at the long history for the time being, a fruitless Karabakh settlement, "sensationalism" of what happened in Baku will fade.

In the middle of 90's. last century, almost immediately after the end of the war in Karabakh, international mediators in the face of the newly formed OSCE Minsk Group proposed a peacekeeping plan, the essence of which was to start solving a difficult problem with the restoration of economic cooperation between the opposing sides, the opening of borders, the resumption of transport -energy infrastructures, etc., and leave a political decision for the future. This plan was called "phased" and was fully supported by the then Armenian leadership in the person of the first President Levon Ter-Petrosyan. However, he had many opponents, the opposition insisted on a “package” solution, in which economic and political steps had to follow not one after the other, but in parallel.

It is known that the proposals of the intermediaries failed to be implemented. Today, as we can see, the Armenian side, supporting (and even welcoming) the possible accession of Azerbaijan to the EAEU, in fact, seeks to return to the settlement plans for precisely this “phased” character. After all, if the warring parties become members of the same integration association, it will mean that the issue of Nagorno-Karabakh will cease to be a purely bilateral problem, during its resolution, the EEU and, first of all, Russia will have to play a significant role. And in this regard, it should be recalled that just recently the Chairman of the Committee on International Affairs of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, Alexei Pushkov, said: "The Karabakh conflict is a very complex conflict, I would even say, one of the most difficult in the post-Soviet space. There is no simple solution. Russia , for its part, can only call on the parties to find a mutually acceptable solution. Understand that Armenia is our ally and Azerbaijan is our friend and neighbor, therefore Russia cannot support any of the parties to this conflict. " At the same time, “we will do everything in our power to resolve this conflict peacefully, which would satisfy both parties,” Pushkov said. On the background of what is happening, this can only mean that even if Baku joins the EEU, Moscow will focus on restoring economic cooperation in the region (which in itself minimizes the risk of a new war), but will not pedal the political decision. If a common regional market emerges (and this also implies the inclusion of Georgia in it), then the new situation will dictate new solutions that correspond to the situation - in full accordance with the approaches voiced by Artashes Geghamyan in Baku.

For all that, when (and if) "Azerbaijanis will feel at home in Yerevan, and Armenians feel comfortable in Baku," this will not adversely affect the situation of Nagorno-Karabakh. Indeed, as REGNUM experts have already noted, "the problem for Azerbaijan lies in the fact of the full independence of Nagorno-Karabakh from Baku" ... This independence, we recall, for more than 20 years. And Baku cannot change anything in this situation, and Moscow, as we see, will not. Of course, it cannot be ruled out that Azerbaijan, in the light of this perspective, will refuse to integrate into the EAEU and the CU (and we recognize that Nursultan Nazarbayev’s efforts were in vain), continue the confrontational policy and the arms race, hoping to ultimately resolve the issue in its favor . But this will come into complete contradiction with the policy of Russia, which, as REGNUM experts have already noted, undertook a cardinal “reformatting” of the Transcaucasian realities, because the situation in the Middle East simply leaves no other choice. Then, of course, Moscow will still have to make a choice between a "friend" and an "ally", and there is no doubt what kind of choice it will be.
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  1. portoc65
    +1
    3 July 2014 18: 44
    Armenia and Karabakh, froze the conflict .. left everything as it is .. This option will not work in Ukraine. Too much hatred among nationalists of Russian-speaking Ukrainians and too much blood and atrocities has occurred
    1. +1
      3 July 2014 19: 16
      Hmm ... Ukrainian lawlessness then suppose they froze ... But how is the economy? Who will pay NOW? Russia seems to have refused !!! The West is just used to take !!! In such a situation EVERYTHING IS EQUAL not to avoid the collapse of the state !!!
      1. +2
        3 July 2014 19: 29
        Quote: Armagedon
        In such a situation EVERYTHING IS EQUAL not to avoid the collapse of the state !!!

        Maybe Putin is counting on this without introducing troops? What will it fall off by itself?
    2. +5
      3 July 2014 19: 48
      Quote: portoc65
      Armenia and Karabakh, froze the conflict .. left everything as it is .. This option will not work in Ukraine. Too much hatred among nationalists of Russian-speaking Ukrainians and too much blood and atrocities has occurred

      The article was posted in 18-41, in 18-44 your post was posted on the article about Karabakh with Ukraine drawn here behind the ears. Do you think Portugal has nothing more to do in sunny, as soon as you start writing about Ukraine in all topics? If you have such a Ukrainian dependence, why not there with a machine gun for the edge?
    3. +3
      3 July 2014 20: 45
      Quote: portoc65
      Armenia and Karabakh-froze the conflict .. left everything as it is.


      Vladlen, from your comment you can draw the following conclusion, the conflict between Armenia and Karabakh. In fact, the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia on the one hand and on the other hand between Azerbaijan and the separatists (terrorists) settled in Karabakh, that is, in other words, Azerbaijan is fighting for two front, and if you add also Nakhichevan, then on three fronts.
      It is a pity that visitors did not pay attention to this.
      1. +1
        3 July 2014 21: 43
        Quote: Apollon
        It is a pity that visitors did not pay attention to this.

        Hello Apollo, they paid attention and I'm sure not only me, but the topic is painfully complicated and scrupulous, and I don’t want to drive a wave from not figs.
        1. +1
          3 July 2014 22: 07
          Quote: Jura
          Hello Apollo

          Mutually Yuri hi
          Quote: Jura
          I noticed and I’m sure not only I, but the topic is painfully complicated and scrupulous, and I don’t want to drive a wave from not figs.

          So we don’t write anyway, the Karabakh issue is not being resolved here at the VO forum.

          Best regards hi
          1. 0
            3 July 2014 22: 31
            Quote: Apollon
            the Karabakh issue is not resolved here on

            For Russia, any peace between you is a priority issue, but you are right, except for you, I mean the direct participants in the conflict, no one will be able to resolve your differences.
      2. 0
        4 July 2014 13: 06
        Quote: Apollon
        on the other hand, between Azerbaijan and the separatists (terrorists) settled in Karabakh


        Azir for you they are terrorists, and for me militias.
    4. +1
      3 July 2014 21: 32
      . Too much hatred among nationalists for Russian-speaking Ukrainians

      And why did the Russian-speaking Ukrainians annoy the Natsiks so much ?! Or maybe just the opposite is happening ?! In quiet Portugal, everything seems different ?! And you, dear portoc65, please look at VESTI 24, though, what is the conversation about ...! You "survey" VO, so you are aware of everything that happens in the SE!
  2. +2
    3 July 2014 18: 48
    And all the same, Armenia is closer to Russia spiritually than Azerbaijan, and it is not worth politicizing the situation negatively, the war will not suit anyone except the State Department ...
    1. The smartest
      +4
      3 July 2014 19: 05
      Nothing closer to her. Let them understand themselves, everywhere Russia owes everything.
    2. 0
      3 July 2014 19: 11
      The peaceful existence of these states in the current situation is still possible for many years. Perhaps future generations in a different environment will be able to resolve this conflict issue. Nobody needs war.
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    4. 0
      3 July 2014 23: 30
      Quote: mig31
      And all the same, Armenia is closer to Russia spiritually than Azerbaijan, and it is not worth politicizing the situation negatively, the war will not suit anyone except the State Department ...

      The lands of Russia will come together, one way or another. Through what alliances of states will they go through, through what conflicts, social upheavals? - God knows. Everyone has his own path. But one thing is possible, it is necessary (!) To say for sure: having returned to the common house they will all gain, but not lose their culture, the heritage of their history and there will be no harm to their national pride. Their common state will be invulnerable due to the fact that it will be reborn on the foundation of goodwill.
    5. 225chay
      +1
      4 July 2014 00: 19
      Quote: mig31
      And all the same, Armenia is closer to Russia spiritually than Azerbaijan, and it is not worth politicizing the situation negatively, the war will not suit anyone except the State Department ...


      How is she interesting closer?
      The fact that the Armenians use Russia as a cash cow constantly swearing by their mother?
      the fact that a significant part (not all of course) periodically scour and pour mud on Russia, when some Grach Harutyunyan overtakes Kamaz three times in pursuit of profit, drives at a speed of over 100 km per hour and demolishes a bus with people, sacrificing almost 2 dozen people and about 30 more cripples. Such a universal screech rose from the side of his relatives and fellow countrymen (it seems several thousand signatures were collected in his defense) that you see him Harutyunyan (who killed and injured fifty people) was not sued by a tailcoat or a suit from Versace.
      And all in one voice squealed that "Rook is not guilty, Kamaz himself killed people"
      I live in the Caucasus and have someone to compare ...

      More than once I witnessed how these comrades pit one people against another, and then giggle aside.
      There is still much negative, but I do not want to incite.
      I would advise treating neighbors and other peoples in a human way, and not in a bestial way, and then I think their problems have disappeared ...
      In general, Peace to all! )))
  3. +2
    3 July 2014 18: 52
    The apparent warming that has recently occurred in relations between Russia and Azerbaijan is perceived in Armenia with a certain and understandable alarm.

    And why, in fact, Russia should not strengthen its relations with its neighbors? And why the establishment of international cooperation with someone else should cause some concern? Normal process, two neighboring countries are looking for ways to mutual understanding, based on good neighborliness. Azerbaijan and Armenia have good relations with Russia and the United States, which are not in a hurry to make a choice between them, in fact, balancing their capabilities. It should remain so, otherwise another failure may occur again.
  4. +2
    3 July 2014 19: 02
    And, now you also bring eggs on the turn? Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, who is next?
    1. +3
      3 July 2014 19: 39
      demobilization, and you don’t find that it’s such a disregard for other countries in some issues that we could help to resolve peacefully and led to a disastrous result — we ourselves pushed many countries away from us and Russia, alas, don’t have any real friends? friends of different nations and religions, but we never talk about politics, we just decided in the team they wouldn’t fall for conversations of prosperous people to quarrel. It’s just that if there is no desire, then not one problem will be solved. Therefore, politicians are bad, they don’t want to just think and find solutions to problems
      1. +4
        3 July 2014 20: 21
        That's it, dear sv68, in politics it is not customary to confuse your personal wool with the state.
      2. +2
        3 July 2014 21: 35
        that’s why politicians are bad - they don’t want to just think and find solutions to problems. Politicians are led by business, this is the reason for many troubles

        In any conflict, the ears of BIG BUSINESS "stick out" behind the bayonets!
        1. +1
          3 July 2014 21: 48
          Absolutely, dear asar.
    2. +6
      3 July 2014 19: 46
      Dembel, come on. The idea of ​​the EAEU ANAS was, Putin supported it and attracted Belarus and Ukraine in 2003-2004. Nazarbayev proposed for two, and then attract others. But ... you see everything for yourself. At least the Republic of Kazakhstan is definitely not on the bandwagon, the level of GDP per capita is comparable, about $ 14.
      Essentially the article. I already wrote that there is no point in Armenia in the EAEU, because transport communications only through Iran - how to trade. Therefore, he assumed that we would "force" Armenia to normalize relations with Azerbaijan. And this statement is very important for everyone in the region. If the Armenian officials still support him, then the ball will be on the field of Azerbaijan. If they join the EAEU, then Nagorno-Karabakh will in fact be "isolated", if I may say so, Armenia will be forced to draw a line along the border with NK (if I understand correctly, NK is an unrecognized territory). It turns out that NK will have to start a normal dialogue with Azerbaijan and resolve the issue of refugees and the status of the territory.
      It should also be noted the difficult economic situation of Armenia, the outflow reached 50-60 thousand people annually. Judging by the population of Armenia 3 million, this is a large figure (about 2%). Therefore, even upon joining the EAEU, they are forced to look for ways to normalize and open transport corridors through Azerbaijan (after 08.08.08 Georgia is unlikely to do this - Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which it considers to be their own).
      A couple of years ago, on this site, an Azerbaijani colleague called me an abnormal Kazakh (I meant that all Kazakhs support Azerbaijan in the confrontation with Armenia). I explained to him that without war it is necessary. Neighbors no matter how, you can and should push economically. No, that's all, let's go to war. I told him that the corpses would go uphill and the introduction of peacekeepers would lead to the fact that NKs could lose permanently, because there would be a real sweep of Armenians in NK during the war.
      And the Armenians were great - they famously pulled Azerbaijanis into the union. I did not expect such a move. hi
      1. 0
        3 July 2014 20: 27
        Azerbaijani oil is of excellent quality, but this is not enough for leadership in the region where Russia has its own interests. Nabucco in dreams, and Armenia in hope.
        1. +1
          3 July 2014 23: 10
          Moreover, the leadership in the region. We all want a solution to the crisis in NK. And they are very interested in Azerbaijan's accession to the EAEU. This is not a "poor relative" and can become an investor in joint projects in our countries. In the end, oil does not last forever; Azerbaijanis need their own industrialization and sales markets. They will definitely come to this. But it's better earlier and together, so as not to create unnecessary competition in the future.
  5. +1
    3 July 2014 19: 18
    While the guys of Armenia and Azerbaijan do not agree among themselves, Russia's mediation is not productive. Bases, of course, are good, but loyalty to us is not the last thing!
    1. +1
      3 July 2014 19: 28
      Quote - Then, of course, Moscow will still have to make a choice between a "friend" and an "ally", and there is no doubt what that choice will be.

      The Kremlin has long made its choice in favor of the aggressor and the occupier. In words, it stands for internationally recognized borders, but in reality it is also arming the aggressor.Azerbaijan will never be in one alliance with the occupier.Not now and not in the future. This is definitely !!! Amuse yourself with illusions is not worth it.
      1. +1
        3 July 2014 20: 07
        Quote: Apollon
        Quote - Then, of course, Moscow will still have to make a choice between a "friend" and an "ally", and there is no doubt what that choice will be.


        Dear, why are you being led into a clear provocation in this quote? Does hot blood overshadow the mind? Maybe this factor prevents official Baku from turning disadvantages into advantages? Indeed, in terms of finances, as far as I understand, Armenia, as compared to Azerbaijan, is relaxing on the sidelines.
        1. +2
          3 July 2014 20: 17
          Quote: Dym71
          Dear, why are you being led into a clear provocation in this quote?

          I never get carried away by provocation. Why did you get that ?!

          quote-Understand, Armenia is our ally, and Azerbaijan is our friend and neighbor, so Russia cannot support any of the parties in this conflict. "(Note of Pushkov's words)
          Listen to Glazyev about integration .............. and what's the point. Everything rests on the problem of Karabakh again.


          He is telling the truth. But a conflict with Armenia is inevitable if it is delayed.

          The conflict ended in a truce in 1994, that is, 20 years have passed, the whole has already grown generation refugees who have not seen their homeland and some who offer to freeze until better times.I don’t want to leave a conflict to descendants, our children, grandchildren ?!
          1. 0
            3 July 2014 21: 20
            Quote: Apollon
            I never get carried away by provocation. Why did you get that ?!


            Because in general, the article seemed positive to me, with the exception of the last lines on which you focus, starting your comment.
            Quote: Apollon
            But a conflict with Armenia is inevitable if it is delayed.


            I sincerely wish that these conflicts never become military. hi
      2. +4
        3 July 2014 20: 30
        I support. Besides, what can Azerbaijan get from such a union, besides security guarantees for elites?
  6. 0
    3 July 2014 19: 33
    To the author: Anush, that you are raising a panic .. Russia will calm your countries ... you’re not going anywhere, you exist for many years thanks to our maternal attitude .. we need Armenians and Azerbaijanis ... what to escalate? Patience ... the Russians suffer ... you all will be fine, do not rush to fight for Karabakh ... nobody except your states needs it ... we will come ... and there will be peace in your house, Armenians will live in Baku and Azerbaijanis in Yereuan ... Sumgait massacre will not happen again ... :-)
  7. +2
    3 July 2014 20: 13
    Life clearly shows that those bloodthirsty people who call for war while sitting on sofas and who beat themselves in the chest, calling themselves patriots of their country, in difficult times for their homeland, are very far from the front lines.
    1. +1
      3 July 2014 20: 27
      Quote: Stavros
      are far from the front line.


      Therefore, you ended up in Russia ?! laughingAs for my flag, this is the provider of the chemical, be sure.
      1. +2
        3 July 2014 22: 33
        Greek, as always, in his role !! I think that many people will go to war, including me, do not worry about this. I’m what I think, but will you go to fight Stavros, because this conflict doesn’t concern you at all
        1. +1
          3 July 2014 23: 32
          Don’t think about me. You better sit down and wait for the order of your field marshal.
  8. -1
    3 July 2014 20: 44
    Armenians seem to every Azerbaijanian from every corner, this is not news.
    Apollo, it doesn’t matter to the flag. This applies to both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, and not only to them.
  9. 0
    3 July 2014 21: 34
    And Baku cannot change anything in this situation, and Moscow, as we see, will not.
    If the first - "grandmother said in two", then the second is undoubted. It is not enough for Russia to gain dubious friendship and outright hatred by its intervention.
    In general, the resolution of the issue in the spirit of "peace-peace" "for an Azeri, for an Armenian and vice versa" would certainly be fantastically good .... it's a pity that it is fantastic ..... blood is absorbed into the ground quickly, it is forgotten for a long time ...
    1. 0
      3 July 2014 21: 58
      The above article was written without a well-known author and what they write in the Armenian press. Below is an article without cuts.

      Putin "gave" Armenia to Kazakhstan

      Armenian officials yesterday did not comment on the tweet of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Kazakhstan, which sets a new term for Armenia’s accession to the Eurasian Union - October. They did not comment on it at the Russian Foreign Ministry either.
      Apparently, Russia by default transferred Armenia to the "jurisdiction" of Kazakhstan. Least thrice Astana changed the direction of Armenia’s policy: at first, Nazarbayev actually stated that without solving the Karabakh problem in favor of Azerbaijan, Armenia’s joining the Eurasian Union is impossible. Then, despite the fact that Serzh Sargsyan asked for time until June 15, Nazarbayev determined the deadline until July 1. Now his Foreign Minister is announcing a new deadline.
      Putin does not hidethat the issues of Armenia were transferred to Kazakhstan. During the summit in Astana and after it Putin did not say a word about Aliyev’s letter. He did not say anything in Minsk, where he went yesterday to participate in the 70 anniversary of the liberation of Belarus from the Nazis. Putin generally says little about the Eurasian Union - whether he lost interest in him after the “loss” of Ukraine, whether Armenia was stuck in his throat.
      For almost a year now, since September 3, Armenia has been living in anticipation of joining the Eurasian Union. State bodies are intensely preparing documentation for the Customs Union, Gagik Tsarukyan is expanding his business in Belarus, crime shoots at each other again with impunity, and the residents of Armenia are waiting for a simplification of their stay in Russia. The year is not just lost for Armenia, it is a year of tremendous regression, and it will continue until at least October.
      Putin does not need Armenia in the Eurasian Union - this was clear from the very beginning. Putin was supposed to break the EU’s Eastern Partnership: first, he easily cut Azerbaijan off from the project, starting a deal with him on Karabakh and arms deals, then Armenia threatening it with Azerbaijan. He almost celebrated the victory, but he was not able to stop the Eastern Partnership - the three countries finally broke away from the post-Soviet space. And Putin took this as a personal defeat.
      Now even in the Russian press you can find articles that indicate Putin’s gloomy mood and even some fear. Many are already openly talking about disagreements in the Kremlin team, that a coup could well happen, and the higher Putin’s rating, the more likely the coup.
      Putin's psychology has become a political category. For example, Zbigniew Brzezinski argues that Obama’s most offensive statement to Putin was that in which he called Russia a regional power. Brzezinski conducts a psychoanalysis of Putin and claims that the Russian president is now in a depressed and humiliated state, because his sovereign ambitions have been reduced to zero after Ukraine.
      Some events in Moscow are also likely to be expected in Yerevan, even the opposition is waiting, which, despite the hot social fund, decided to hold rallies not now, but in the fall. Apparently, important events can happen before the fall - and they will be associated not only with Putin’s state of mind, but also with the presidential elections in Turkey, the partition of Iraq and the conclusion of an agreement between Iran and the West.
      In this sense, the Eurasian timeout is beneficial for us, but when the timeout becomes the main policy, the country is sliding deeper into the socio-economic and geopolitical pit.

      http://www.lragir.am/index/rus/0/comments/view/37010
  10. -1
    3 July 2014 22: 05
    All these former union republics simply went crazy because of their territorial integrity, although they had never been states before. At the same time, none of them wants to reckon with national minorities, it is imperative that someone spread rot. To disentangle all this is (and will have to be for a long time) the Russian Federation.
    1. +2
      3 July 2014 22: 38
      Quote: enot73
      All these former union republics simply went crazy because of their territorial integrity, although they had never been states before.

      ))) Well, you said. The USSR was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The republic is one of the forms of government. How could you create a union of republics that as a state did not exist. Each of them had a constitution, government, parliament.)) After the collapse of all of them within the borders of the alliance was accepted by the UN. And if you didn’t have to cling to territorial integrity, why then have you had to fight in Chechnya for so many years? I beg you and everyone who thinks so, do not advise which is not profitable for yourself.
      1. -1
        3 July 2014 23: 20
        Do you really want to fight with Armenia over Karabakh? Do you need Armenian terrorists in Baku? And Chechnya for some time was a territory independent of Russia, but now it is absorbing a lot of money from the budget. Russia at one time handed over disputed territories to the PRC, and Czechs with Slovaks managed to disperse peacefully. It’s just that all territorial and national issues should be resolved without massacre, in fact, as now in Azerbaijan and Armenia, I hope everything will end in peace with you too.
        1. +3
          3 July 2014 23: 35
          Quote: enot73
          Do you really want to fight with Armenia over Karabakh?

          Azerbaijan does not sell land. The territory of any country is inviolable. We did not start this conflict.

          Quote: enot73
          I hope you will also end in peace.

          I also hope. War is a terrible thing. Those who fought and went through it know what war is. But if you need to, you have to go. There’s no other. I’m already over 40. I don’t want to sit behind the backs of 18-year-old boys. I understand. I at least saw something of my life, did it. and these guys are green. They have all their lives ahead.

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