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The shelling of the Ukrainian security forces under Slavyansk and the fall of two Ukrainian aircraft per day

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In the vicinity of Slavyansk, fighting continues between the forces of the national militia and the units of the Ukrainian security forces. The latter made another attempt to close the blockade ring around the city. There is shelling of the militia positions in the settlement of Nikolaevka, through which the only highway passes connecting Slavyansk with the outside world. Ukrainian security forces are firing at urban areas, infrastructure of the city.

The militia reports that the units of the so-called National Guard fired at a bridge across the river Kazenny Torets, which at that moment was moving along a bus carrying civilians. Reports about it RIA News with reference to Igor Strelkov. According to the latest data, two people were killed during the shelling and three were injured of varying degrees of severity. Treatment of the wounded in medical institutions of Slavyansk is complicated by the fact that the city was left without electricity.

The shelling of the Ukrainian security forces under Slavyansk and the fall of two Ukrainian aircraft per day


The militia commander Igor Strelkov reports the battle in the Slavyanskaya area:

We have a heavy battle near Nikolaevka. Enemy mass tanks and other equipment pushed our infantry into the village itself and is trying to "squeeze". At the same time, he is trying to cut off Nikolaevka from Semenovka along the "canal" highway. Enemy artillery works continuously. Fire is also underway on Slavyansk. A civilian bus was shot in the area of ​​the bridge across Kazenny Torets. 2 people killed, 3 injured. They shoot everything that tries to enter or leave the city.


At the same time Strelkov, referring to the Ukrainian media (UNIAN), reports on new losses for the Air Force of Ukraine per day. We are talking about the fallen attack plane Su-25 at the airport of Dnepropetrovsk and the fall of the military side in the area of ​​the mine "Progress" in the DNR. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Su-25 in Dnepropetrovsk crashed due to a technical malfunction. The reasons for the fall of the aircraft in the Donbass in the Ministry of Defense Square is not yet reported.
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  1. Stiletto
    Stiletto 2 July 2014 17: 27
    +20
    Well, yes, the pilot of the previously hit plane landed in another Dry, estimated his chances, and decided to eject. Interestingly, this is all nishtyaki from Avakov’s ATO, or is there still a third on the way?
    1. Himalayan
      Himalayan 2 July 2014 17: 31
      0
      Very important information from Donetsk
      http://etoonda.livejournal.com/

      I realized that Pushilin and Khodokovsky were meritorians, when I saw how they killed the killed militias in a heap and invited the journalist to remove this terrible sight! They threw them as if they were not people, but a bunch of slaughtered pigs! They don’t treat dead friends like that! The fifth column against Bezler has intensified in Russia, which means that the truth is on his side!
      1. Himalayan
        Himalayan 2 July 2014 17: 55
        +5
        The whole philosophy of dill in the words of Ukraine-Shuster
        1. VengefulRat
          VengefulRat 2 July 2014 18: 17
          +4
          Meanwhile, the war covers not only the male population of the former Ukraine
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 2 July 2014 18: 55
            +8
            Quote: VengefulRat
            Meanwhile, the war covers not only the male population of the former Ukraine

            You can write only words of admiration! Russian women are the best !!! good love
            1. Giant thought
              Giant thought 2 July 2014 19: 37
              +1
              Russian women always support Russian men in difficult times, for example, take the fairy tale about Elena the Wise.
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            3. AVV
              AVV 2 July 2014 20: 52
              +2
              And nothing shines for the maidan ladies, their place is a prison !!! They deserve their rulers !!! How they sing in the winter !!! Let them heat them with dung !!!
              1. armageddon
                armageddon 2 July 2014 21: 32
                0
                Hmm ... A LOOP is waiting for them ... Not NARA !!! I think Natsik no one will become SORRY ... !!!
        2. not main
          not main 3 July 2014 00: 03
          0
          Quote: Himalayan
          The whole philosophy of dill in the words of Ukraine-Shuster

          In nature, wild animals do not attack a watering hole! Well, what do you call them after that?
        3. Rarahin
          Rarahin 3 July 2014 10: 34
          0
          This is the philosophy of not only dill (they themselves do not decide anything), but of the whole of Europe, which passionately hates Russians.
          Hitler (ksati unified ALL Europe to attack the USSR) ceased to express this philosophy in his OST Politik:
          "No hygiene, no medicine, only vodka and tobacco! Total degeneration!"
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      3. Oleg amos
        Oleg amos 2 July 2014 18: 01
        -1
        Can just show Moscow the fruits of her help
        1. Nick
          Nick 2 July 2014 18: 26
          +1
          Quote: Oleg Amos
          Can just show Moscow the fruits of her help

          What kind of fruits are we talking about?
        2. nikcris
          nikcris 2 July 2014 19: 36
          +1
          Blown away!
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    3. portoc65
      portoc65 2 July 2014 17: 35
      +23
      The militia actually established a no-fly zone. Almost every combat flight of Ukrainian aviation is accompanied by losses of military equipment, turntables and dryers .. This is already a good help .. If you still start to use Beech, it’s better to stay dill at airfields ..
      1. Himalayan
        Himalayan 2 July 2014 17: 40
        +9
        Victory is forged in the rear. To identify traitors in time, to remove double-dealing on time, and the victory over "Nachtigall-Galicia-Das Reich" is inevitable http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-%FF_%F2%E0%ED%EA%EE%E2%E0% FF_% E4% E8% E2% E8% E7% E8% F
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      3. Paradoxov
        Paradoxov 2 July 2014 17: 43
        +11
        It looks like the Dome with the Beeches is still not working, repairing?
        Otherwise, drying would be strewed in bunches)
        1. Oleg amos
          Oleg amos 2 July 2014 18: 03
          +6
          And put you in charge of controlling this thing, I'll see how quickly you begin to at least take aim
          1. Paradoxov
            Paradoxov 2 July 2014 18: 43
            +5
            I'm pulling a tanker by training :)
            It was controlled quite well with t54,55, but when at the next retraining it came to me to pull my ears out of t72 (the tanks, you understand, were getting smaller and smaller, I got the other way around)), got stuck! stop
            You can’t make me dig at radar even at gunpoint :))
        2. Paradoxov
          Paradoxov 2 July 2014 18: 36
          +1
          This should immediately earn and PPC ukrluftvaffe! am

          Clear skies over Lugansk: a new column of militia armored vehicles with mobile air defense systems entered Lugansk
          http://www.novorosinform.org/news/id/1814

          ... In the column of armored vehicles there are several infantry fighting vehicles and self-propelled anti-aircraft missile systems "Strela-10", MT-LB (multi-purpose conveyor (tractor) light armored ...
          1. hooligan
            hooligan 2 July 2014 19: 18
            +1
            good news. good
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        3. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 2 July 2014 19: 11
          +3
          Quote: Paradoxov
          It looks like the Dome with the Beeches is still not working, repairing?
          Otherwise, drying would be strewed in bunches)

          In the junta, even without an armed confrontation, since the end of February everything began to crumble by itself, not to start, break down, explode, ignite ... - Symbolically. What kind of "state formation" is the power and the army. The other is sad: if it were not for the mindless striving of all these ball-balls to power, from rags to riches, and with all their usual filth - then in the early nineties - there would not have been all these understates with under-people in power! There would be no these victims, strife that kills the economy and condemns the innocent to poverty, there would be no chance for the Anglo-Saxons to rule over divided peoples. In the end - then the account - they do not need either Russian or Bandera! Understand uk..ry - for whom they are trying, that they are preparing the ground for themselves - uk..rov to bury, but it will be too late. The same is with Armenia and Azerbaijan; Georgia with Ossetia and Abkhazia, in Central Asia - a powder keg, the Baltic States are emptying ... And here too ... How could this drunkard, a paranoid Yeltsin, lead Russia into the future, paying for his thirst for power with lands at the cost of feats of arms, labors heavy, achievements of inquisitive minds and courage of many generations gathered ?! And the generosity of the Russian People served the creation of the state, when the Russian Crown was a saving shade for the peoples doomed to destruction by the aggression of neighbors. And for the same Ukrainians - not least. Now we see manic anger in response and betrayal, even of their own interests. Falling their planes ... Falls and their vile "power".
      4. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 2 July 2014 17: 51
        +13
        I don’t understand whether the pilots have no pros in dill .. whether the militias have professional snipers .. They cut down aviation every day (I’m not special) but shoot down attack aircraft from MANPADS, etc. in such quantities ..? Maybe someone from the experts will explain? (just not in one conflict this was not observed) In general, well done!
        1. Raskolnik
          Raskolnik 2 July 2014 18: 11
          +2
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I don’t understand whether the pilots have no pros in dill .. whether the militias have professional snipers .. They cut down aviation every day (I’m not special) but shoot down attack aircraft from MANPADS, etc. in such quantities ..? Maybe someone from the experts will explain? (just not in one conflict this was not observed) In general, well done!

          In which conflict? there were losses everywhere. The Americans in Iraq lost planes from the memory of WWII. The attack aircraft flies low for effective bombing, this is its purpose. Not one but several MANPADS missiles are launched. Let alone find the target through obstacles and traps
        2. sergey72
          sergey72 2 July 2014 18: 14
          +6
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I don’t understand whether dill has no pro pilots ..

          And where do they come from? According to unconfirmed reports, the last time dill pilots fought in Eritrea in 1999 is an opponent of the Ethiopian Air Force represented by Russian pilots ... Score 2: 0 not in favor of dill ...
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 2 July 2014 18: 34
            +6
            Mikhan, Sergey72 good day. Look at the raid of pilots of Ukraine. There are not even 50 hours. And the test site is no longer necessary. Under the USSR, one flight school, consisting of 3 fighter regiments and one helicopter, loaded the training ground into the coils — 300 days a year, the training ground was directly occupied. If there is no weather, then flights were postponed (even on Saturday). An interesting fact: the location of the landfill is such that 300 days a year was sunny. Even this, in my opinion, was taken into account when creating the landfill.
            In Russia and Kazakhstan, the flight time is already in the region of 150 hours. But the biggest one among the Indians (200 hours) - it was not in vain that the Amers were in the exercises and did it "in the tail and in the mane", even on the MiG-21. hi
            1. sergey72
              sergey72 2 July 2014 18: 43
              +2
              Good day, Dauren! hi



              Russia and Kazakhstan have already raided around 150 hours. But the largest among the Indians (200 hours.) [/ Quote]
              About the big raid by the Indians do not say .... laughing otherwise our Israeli friends will come running and peck .. wassat
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 2 July 2014 19: 04
                +3
                Sergey, I’ve rummaged through tyrnete (my daughters taught me).
                2009year-2 hours 20 minutes
                2012 year-20 hours. belay
                There is no time for polygons. Maximum one flight to the landfill per year. I'm shocked - and it was called the 2nd army of the USSR, after the Russian. The most indestructible and legendary. Therefore, there are most likely not enough intelligent pilots. Since Soviet times, few people have remained - time. Mercenaries will soon be attracted if they have something to fly. There, in my opinion, rem. there are enough factories, ours were being repaired there, in Odessa, if memory serves. Now everything that can fly is probably urgently repaired. And there was a lot of "iron".
                Well, our friends, without war, in any way, all defend their truth. Even the girls serve. BUT "neighbors are not chosen" - sooner or later you will have to talk. True, the "owner" blew their whole brain, these just do not lag behind. "If you don't want to, we will force" is called. The US is flirting with the Palestinians, then with the Iranians - of course they do not like it. And neither they, so the neighbors will be forced to fight. They will have to keep the powder dry for a long time. hi drinks
                1. sergey72
                  sergey72 2 July 2014 19: 18
                  +2
                  Quote: Kasym
                  There, in my opinion, rem. there are enough factories; ours were being repaired there, in Odessa, if memory serves.

                  Our products of the Su-24, during the Soviet era, were repaired in the Nikolaev ARZ - the only one in the entire union on this subject ....
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 2 July 2014 20: 19
                    +3
                    Sergey, everything seems simple to me about Ukraine. There will be no entry. GDP has 2 options:
                    1. Money. There are unemployed miners ... a lot and every day more and more. So why introduce an army if it is actually there. I thought that something like 150 million per month. 30 miners ($ 000 per month, 1000 for ammunition and meals, you can supply the old ones with your own warehouses) + small arms and ammunition, ATGM + RPG + heavy. armament-mortars + etc. (also it is possible from old warehouses). To them instructors. But it takes time. There is probably enough crime there, so we need trusted people on the other side. God forbid what the Mole will show up, the Americans and the potter will raise such a howl. And it seems to me that the GDP is waiting for it to get involved so that after the DPR and LPR, the Kiev authorities will have nothing to wave, then chase all over Ukraine. Bandera same tanks in the sheds will be hidden under hay. And the facts will be such that ... after Odessa, there’s no need to fantasize anymore.
                    2. Peacekeeping operation. The facts are already on the face - tens of thousands only in the camps. Recently, she conducted the exercises of the Russian Federation. But with her only the East. And in the first option ... sorry, Western partners, but we're not at business. bully . They brought the miners and get it, and there were enough weapons in Ukraine for 3 armies with a margin. Tanks, so there were T-72, 64, 80 behind the eyes, and our skilled people of the two will always gather. And they will bring in NATO, and so they will get under the eagle, excuse me there, but I won’t stop the volunteers, I’ll stay without a head (GDP).
                    So the first option is preferable, in my opinion. They spread the orange revolution there, well, so they counterrevolution GDP. And quietly of all the right-wingers. Well, there the Cossacks parted or the miners were pinned down by their lawlessness, who already understands. If you wanted a war, get it, only in Lviv our tanks will stand.
                    And if there are also Muslim volunteer detachments in the form of Chechens, Dagestanis and Ingush, we can also attract ours. Then ... fear has large legs ... "The spirits are rocking with the Czechs, under such a high that 3 bullets won't stop" ... There, and so the glory of the Chechens is such that just the sight ... will lead to a stupor. Imagine if the same Kazakhs or Uzbeks wear Afghan headdresses - pakol, Pashtunka or turban they wind up. There will be a comedy. Well, it's a fantasy, but in my opinion, VVP has already made a decision.
                    1. sergey72
                      sergey72 2 July 2014 20: 41
                      +1
                      Quote: Kasym
                      Tanks, so there were T-72, 64, 80 behind the eyes, and our skilled people of the two will always gather.

                      Well, the T-64 on BHVT in Shilovo, near Novosibirsk - heaps ...
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym 2 July 2014 22: 03
                        +2
                        I will supplement it. Sore. The second option with peacekeepers is also bad in that the troop deployment itself can consolidate neutral Ukrainians and right-wingers - the GDP also decided to annex the East. Is that the other members of the CSTO. I don’t know how others, but we have 2 teams of peacekeepers, contract soldiers, KazBat and Kazbrig. Therefore, all the same, the first option. It’s difficult, and the people feel sorry, but it’s impossible to stop it already: one should not look at the Kiev authorities — talking heads, puppeteers across the ocean. Kolomoisky, Yarosh, Parubiy and others are hands.
                        The first option they simply can not stand. Judging by corruption in Kiev, it is necessary to throw 2,3 times more into the furnace, if not by an order of magnitude. The treasury is empty, you don’t particularly use loans, you need to report, illegal assistance from the CIA and NGOs is costly for excesses (steal more) and will not be pulled. Soon, both diesel fuel and kerosene will not - technical oil was drained from the pipelines, oil was seized. Oligarchs will naturally not pay from their pockets. And the inclusion of the right sector in no way - Sashko Bilogo was overwhelmed and Yarosh would be sentenced, if they lost the East, then who would the impoverished people ask? A long time to hide the truth, heavy earth rumors are full. So there will be detachments of right-wingers and Kolomoisky shove. That is, the war cannot be stopped there.
                        GDP merge East-loss of credibility, the annexation of Crimea and the Olympics will be forgotten, support for the people 0, the Russian people will not forgive the killing of Russians in Ukraine, NATO in Ukraine - because of these considerations, it definitely won’t. Therefore, it is silent as partisans; the first option is not going to advertise. Will act as western partners taught. hi
      5. 52
        52 2 July 2014 19: 24
        +1
        So they are Russians, and remember- "As a child I saw an airplane in the sky, and then I realized that it was mine! But then I only had a slingshot ..." smile
    4. Wels75
      Wels75 2 July 2014 17: 41
      +10
      Yeah, hard for the guys. But you have to hold on and beat on the fascist reptile!
      And on handsome planes !!! Every day, yes and no one. For victory!
      Death to fascism! Victory will be ours!
    5. sssss018
      sssss018 2 July 2014 17: 47
      +8
      It is necessary to crush these creatures, they carry out anti-terrorist operation, against whom ,? women and children, and their pilots are shniki, dropped bombs away from the block of posts on unarmed ones!
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 2 July 2014 17: 49
      +7
      According to the UNIAN news agency, a military plane fell on the ventilation shaft of the "Progress" mine in the Donetsk region, there were no casualties.

      A little earlier, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reported that Su-25 crashed at a Dnepropetrovsk airport due to a technical malfunction, the pilot ejected,
      The incident occurred at noon on Wednesday, 2 July, when an attack aircraft entered the airport at Dnepropetrovsk.

      Thus, the junta has lost more 2 aircraft for today.
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 2 July 2014 18: 05
        +5
        Maybe the pilot was tired of fighting and he thus withdrew from the ATO. Why, a good example! Boy, tick to the hut!
    7. Matroskin 18
      Matroskin 18 2 July 2014 17: 49
      +5
      Do they finally have diesel fuel for tanks? Well, this is not for long!
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    9. nycsson
      nycsson 2 July 2014 18: 50
      +1
      The consequences of the strike on the village of Lugansk ....
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 2 July 2014 17: 27
    +17
    That the censor is silent about the second plane, does not want to spoil the mood of the army of sofa rimbos lol
    Write down, another minus two Yes
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 2 July 2014 17: 35
      +12
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      That the censor is silent about the second plane, does not want to spoil the mood of the army of sofa rimbos


      No, no, they’re already tweeting there that they say, most importantly, the flyer is alive, and the equipment would still be canceled in two years. Well, they are dreaming of shtatovskih A-10, B-52 and something else .... rogue. And, well, they also blame Russian equipment. Do not admit that the hands themselves are growing out of a place that is slightly lower than the back. lol
      1. 78bor1973
        78bor1973 2 July 2014 18: 03
        +2
        You can forget about the US A-10s, they are already "breathing in an incense", therefore they are removed from service.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 2 July 2014 19: 26
          +1
          Quote: 78bor1973
          You can forget about the US A-10s, they are already "breathing in an incense", therefore they are removed from service.

          Do not say the A-10 upgraded, yet formidable force. I would not want the punitive to receive them.
      2. mazhnikof.Niko
        mazhnikof.Niko 2 July 2014 18: 05
        +3
        Quote: Stiletto
        No, no, they’re already tweeting there that they say, most importantly, the flyer is alive, and the equipment would still be canceled in two years. Well, they are dreaming of shtatovskih A-10, B-52 and something else .... rogue. And, well, they also blame Russian equipment. Do not admit that the hands themselves are growing out of a place that is slightly lower than the back.


        What kind of A-10, B-52, my father, Real Guards, Colonel of the Marine Corps, in such cases asked: "Why do you need this?" And he said: How long is the glass fool?
        "Five seconds no more"! "Will break after all"!
        They will not be given anything but a stupa with a broom!
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 2 July 2014 21: 37
          +1
          Quote: mazhnikof.Niko
          They will not be given anything but a stupa with a broom!

          That's for sure! There were years (I know for sure, because the teacher at the Air Force School raised a scandal, they got rid of him on retirement) They let out lieutenants who never went up into the sky! “Kerosene is dumb!” Everyone worked out only on simulators. so what do you want? They are still serving.
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    2. mamont5
      mamont5 2 July 2014 17: 46
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      That the censor is silent about the second plane, does not want to spoil the mood of the army of sofa rimbos lol
      Write down, another minus two Yes


      They write about the same plane that they crashed due to a technical malfunction.
      "When approaching the landing of the Su-25 aircraft at the Dnepropetrovsk airport, the pilot felt changes in the lateral control of the aircraft," it was reported.
      It is emphasized that "the pilot took all measures to carry out the landing, but due to the fact that the aircraft lost controllability, he was forced to eject."
      "There are no casualties or destruction of airport facilities," the Defense Ministry said.
      http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1294043
      1. Raskolnik
        Raskolnik 2 July 2014 18: 13
        +2
        And they don’t write that it’s CAM P personally cut the wires? laughing
    3. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 2 July 2014 18: 12
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      That the censor is silent about the second plane, does not want to spoil the mood of the army of sofa rimbos lol
      Write down, another minus two Yes

      They don’t show it and don’t write it, they take care of the psyche ..)))) All articles are purely screaming Glory to Ukraine! We’ll tear all quilted jackets .. (there’s nothing to be done about genes ..)))
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  3. avt
    avt 2 July 2014 17: 28
    +11
    No, I didn’t understand, today 5 pieces were filled up for the campaign ??? Three seemed to be shot down and now two more were covered by the Su-25x and the Su-24 reached the strip and burned again. Well, damn it! This is something! With a relatively weak air defense, such an effect! In give men good !
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 2 July 2014 17: 32
      +7
      This is still a young bear, stands up to its full height.
      1. Muadipus
        Muadipus 2 July 2014 18: 09
        +6
        That Svidomo Masters probably fucking awesome. But how to fly when the air defense regiments are deployed?
        Now I understand the hysteria around the S-300, when MANPADS make such a rustle.
        1. sergey72
          sergey72 2 July 2014 18: 21
          +5
          Quote: Muadipus
          Now I understand the hysteria around the S-300, when MANPADS make such a rustle.

          Not only MANPADS ... This was shot in Lugansk a day ago ... sort of like Arrow-10
          1. anfil
            anfil 2 July 2014 18: 44
            +2
            In Lugansk, the equipment usually passed at night and sometimes the webcams were turned off, but here already in the afternoon, maybe reinforcements.
        2. olegkrava
          olegkrava 2 July 2014 19: 45
          0
          He clicks his finger and you are a troupe.
    2. Paradoxov
      Paradoxov 2 July 2014 17: 41
      +6
      5 sushkas shot down yesterday + two undermined.
      Today: in the morning twice burned and on one wing of the su-24, and still unconfirmed drying at 11-40, like everything.
      How many of them are there left then ???
      1. Paradoxov
        Paradoxov 2 July 2014 18: 29
        +3
        But from the crossbowfire:
        UPD 8: 17:25 (Moscow time) According to Karlovka, there are no losses among our losses, the damage during the shelling is not significant. According to the tank battle near Karlovka - our lossless dill lost two t-64s and two armored personnel carriers (burned to the ground).
        UPD 9: 17:45 (Moscow time) Fierce battles continue behind Staronikolayevka. In principle, they didn’t stop anywhere especially.
        UPD 10: Regarding today's air conditioners, there are two of them, one is the morning one, and the second one "could not" reach the Dnieper runway.
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      1. Egoza
        Egoza 2 July 2014 21: 43
        +2
        Quote: aleks 62
        .....................deleted by moderator Apollo

        Nope! They sing a song ... "The tank is punctured, the tail is on fire, but the car flies on parole and on one wing ..." But there is no parole! Because of this, he collapsed, poor fellow! lol
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 2 July 2014 22: 03
        0
        Quote: aleks 62
        Moreover, they write that there were as many as 4 (!!!!) shots at him from MANPADS, but one hit ... Bullshit ...

        Why .. quite real. You probably know yourself: this is exactly how MANPADS are used to pass the "teplovushki" cordon - a series of launches with a short interval ..
  4. MSA
    MSA 2 July 2014 17: 28
    +8
    Hang on guys !!!
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 2 July 2014 19: 24
      +1
      In short, it will be so soon ..
  5. Valter1364
    Valter1364 2 July 2014 17: 30
    +8
    50 gr x 2 for Victory!
    1. Petergut
      Petergut 2 July 2014 18: 07
      +3
      Roll it, buddy. drinks
      And the bear will play us on the balalaika.
  6. lukke
    lukke 2 July 2014 17: 30
    +8
    Su-25 in Dnepropetrovsk crashed due to a technical malfunction. The causes of the crash in the Donbass in the Ministry of Defense are still not reported
    again the air conditioners did not serve during the time, you panim on frion save
  7. mig31
    mig31 2 July 2014 17: 30
    +8
    The fall of Ukraine, or Ukraine in a tailspin ..... The end of the state ...
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 2 July 2014 17: 34
      +7
      Quote: mig31
      The fall of Ukraine, or Ukraine in a tailspin ..... The end of the state ...


      Was there a boy? That is the question. That which does not exist cannot be lost.
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 2 July 2014 18: 14
        +2
        Quote: Victor-M
        Was there a boy? That is the question. That which does not exist cannot be lost.

        I would add - and that should not exist! We don’t have to divide us with ho-rubbish, we are one people, the country should be one.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 2 July 2014 19: 31
          0
          Quote: c1n7
          Quote: Victor-M
          Was there a boy? That is the question. That which does not exist cannot be lost.

          I would add - and that should not exist! We don’t have to divide us with ho-rubbish, we are one people, the country should be one.

          Exactly, it is only Bandera who consider themselves ancient Ukrainians.
  8. Russ69
    Russ69 2 July 2014 17: 31
    +3
    The one that fell into the mine seemed to have been shot down yesterday.
    If n Dnepropetrovsk crashed, for a technical reason. That is today minus two. The one who sat down also dropped out for a while, and maybe even for cancellation. Dill, like three turntables that used to sit after damage, have already been written off. Somewhere, in nete recently there was an extract from the aviation registry ...
  9. Yaks
    Yaks 2 July 2014 17: 31
    +3
    Soon UKR we will fly on wooden airplanes ....
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 2 July 2014 17: 54
      +3
      Quote: yaks
      Soon UKR we will fly on wooden airplanes ....

      Jacob with the promotion of you (major)! They ukr generally fly like plywood over Paris! And in an attempt to genocide against his people both in politics and in the economy! I do not gloat, but with the Nazis it has always been and will be! IMHO! soldier
  10. 290980
    290980 2 July 2014 17: 32
    +1
    can someone clearly explain why exactly Slavyansk, what is there? if the task is simply to clean it, then why Ukrainians do not throw all the forces there at once?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 2 July 2014 17: 37
      +3
      Quote: 290980
      can someone clearly explain why exactly Slavyansk, what is there?

      Strategic position. He blocks the highway to Kharkov and several more reasons. Someone recently explained on the map what was what.
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 2 July 2014 17: 44
      +5
      Quote: 290980
      can someone clearly explain why exactly Slavyansk, what is there? if the task is simply to clean it, then why Ukrainians do not throw all the forces there at once?

      I already wrote here, in the Slavyansk region, the largest shale gas field.
      The Americans want to develop it and deliver it to Europe instead of Russian gas via the Ukrainian gas transportation system.
      Naturally, Gazprom in particular and Russia as a whole disagree with this, but because of this, there is a war under patriotic slogans.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 2 July 2014 18: 07
        +2
        Quote: ATATA
        The Americans want to develop it and deliver it to Europe instead of Russian gas via the Ukrainian gas transportation system.

        Then why does Europe support the war? Shale gas is more expensive than Russian. In addition, the ecology of the khan, the population will have to go somewhere, you can, of course, kill everyone, but it's hard to imagine. In Syria, 160 people died, the population of Donbass 000 people, Russia will not be able to stand by. It seems that the Ukrainian authorities are waving a saber with their eyes closed, not thinking about the consequences.
        1. Fevrrr
          Fevrrr 2 July 2014 18: 38
          +1
          Quote: Uncle
          population of Donbass 1500 people

          In fact, the population of Donbass is more than 7 million people. The quantity you specify is only the population of Donetsk.
    3. DPZ
      DPZ 2 July 2014 18: 09
      +1
      maybe because at the heart of the word is a symbolic SLAVE
  11. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 2 July 2014 17: 33
    +20
    Go guys !!!


    Plus, at least, the damaged Su-24, as reported by the dill themselves:
    This morning, a Ukrainian plane was shot down by terrorists near Semenovka. At the same time, the pilot managed to bring the aircraft to the designated landing site.
    "In the morning, July 2, the SU 24 aircraft flew over the territory, inspecting the areas where the terrorists were deployed. In the area of ​​the Semenovka village, it was fired upon from MANPADS and mortars. Despite the fact that the pilot managed to carry out the maneuver, one of the shells damaged the plane," Dmitrashkovsky said.

    http://censor.net.ua/n292300

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    2. aleks 62
      aleks 62 2 July 2014 18: 08
      +3
      ....What is it like???? Of the mortars on the plane .... Cool ... Quite Tymchuk branded !!!! fool
      1. sergey72
        sergey72 2 July 2014 19: 05
        +2
        Quote: aleks 62
        Cool ... Quite Tymchuk made !!!! fool

        Well, what do you want from him ..... he also drove on the net: Guda in a helmet ... wassat
    3. old man
      old man 2 July 2014 18: 28
      +4
      Since when is the SU-24 flying for reconnaissance of militia positions. This is a bomber and not a corn bomber - intelligence. Svidomo absolutely no brains. I am amazed!!.
      1. olegkrava
        olegkrava 2 July 2014 19: 46
        +1
        And where did you see the brain in the ass.
      2. gfs84
        gfs84 2 July 2014 20: 50
        0
        Since when is the SU-24 flying for reconnaissance of militia positions. This is a bomber and not a corn bomber - intelligence. Svidomo absolutely no brains. I am amazed!!.


        Su-24MR Scout there were at least 12 pieces in Ukraine, there is still a misunderstanding with 23 machines of the 511st guns, a misunderstanding is that the 511th was disbanded, where the equipment went request
    4. sergey72
      sergey72 2 July 2014 19: 40
      0
      When I first stood in front of this pedestal, and looked at IT in real life, I realized with extraordinary clarity that if IT goes to me when I’m sitting in a trench ... I may not run - but I’ll be completely accurate.
      Taken from the Global Adventure ...
    5. Shoma-1970
      Shoma-1970 2 July 2014 19: 59
      0
      my beloved is-3, in woft laughing
  12. Barakuda
    Barakuda 2 July 2014 17: 44
    +10
    Kramatorsk - the city was subordinate only to Kiev and Moscow with the union, but not to Donetsk. There, beyond the forest belt, the plants of the Heavy Machine and Machine Tool industry under the USSR, and not one at all, that is why they come from a completely different direction. Kramatorsk center on the outskirts of the city in front of factories. And before the same airfield, an hour to go. Slavyansk - you can say the satellite of Kramatorsk. They won’t take Slavyansk - they won’t take Kramatorsk either.
    I lived there ...
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 2 July 2014 17: 48
      +1
      Finally, the Donetsk region can be considered an empire, at least in the USSR, for sure, it was so.
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 2 July 2014 18: 00
        +3
        YES ! But it was. Parosh will ruin everything to please the West, and kapets. And the same KZTS in Kramatorsk exported machines to 15 countries of the world.
        1. Stypor23
          Stypor23 2 July 2014 18: 11
          +1
          It’s more correct to say that even more - less functioning.
  13. sever.56
    sever.56 2 July 2014 17: 47
    +2
    "The East is a delicate matter, Petruha"! For the information of Parashenko and his bandyukov. Horns will break off both him and his "Svidomo" thugs!
  14. bubla5
    bubla5 2 July 2014 17: 50
    +3
    Yeah, and fat will end
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 2 July 2014 17: 59
      +2
      ... and harilka
  15. Victor-M
    Victor-M 2 July 2014 17: 50
    +3
    In essence, Ukraine is a part of Russia, so to speak, the kraina (region), which separated from the latter with the "help" of the West, but Russia, in turn, did not call it separatists and iron it out. Donbass also turns out to be a land, now a separatist Ukraine, and also wants to secede, now from the latter. And what now turns out, the Ukrainian separatists decided to destroy part of the people who wanted to return back to Russia. So who is the terrorist, Ukrainian "patriots", eh? wink
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  17. Chemicalin23
    Chemicalin23 2 July 2014 17: 52
    +3
    Quote: Novel 1977
    Go guys !!!


    Plus, at least, the damaged Su-24, as reported by the dill themselves:
    This morning, a Ukrainian plane was shot down by terrorists near Semenovka. At the same time, the pilot managed to bring the aircraft to the designated landing site.
    "In the morning, July 2, the SU 24 aircraft flew over the territory, inspecting the areas where the terrorists were deployed. In the area of ​​the Semenovka village, it was fired upon from MANPADS and mortars. Despite the fact that the pilot managed to carry out the maneuver, one of the shells damaged the plane," Dmitrashkovsky said.

    http://censor.net.ua/n292300

    Strongly said - the plane was fired from mortars! Now I saw FSE!
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 2 July 2014 18: 40
      +1
      In the Second World War, such a thing was ... our Germans were shot down from a mortar.
      But, I think the SU is unreal ... The stupidity of Mr. ... and Dmitrashkovsky, or whoever writes to him there
  18. Iline
    Iline 2 July 2014 17: 53
    +2
    Dumb Ukrainian war strategy:
    1. Collect kodlu and attack. Receive by Mosl;
    2. Collect even greater kodlu and attack. Get on Mosl.
    3. Try to collect even bigger kodla and try to get the Moslah again.
    But with the third paragraph, real problems may arise regarding technical resources, and human ones too.
  19. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 2 July 2014 17: 54
    +3
    02.07.2014 17: 11 (Moscow time) Message from I. I. Strelkova

    "2 fighter died in battle. Three wounded. The enemy was hit by a tank (unfortunately, he was dragged to the rear).

    At the moment, Nikolaevka is surrounded, the battle is between her and Semenovka. The enemy slowly but surely compresses the ring of the environment. Artillery, "Grad", "Hurricane" work on positions and residential areas. The strength of our infantry cannot stop the armada of armor in conditions where for every three of our fighters we have an enemy's armored unit for 1. "

    02.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Militias report:

    17: 00 (ISC) The shelling of Seversk continues, about a little more than an hour ago, the MLRS worked in the fields behind Staronikolayevka. In the sand, on Chkalov fight.
    17:05 (Moscow time) Over the Maryinka plane passed in the direction of Sand.
    17: 10 (MSC) From Gornyak (near Ukrainian), skyscraper, heavy artillery firing at Karlovka and Sands.
    17: 25 (MSC) According to Karlovka - among our losses there, the destruction during the shelling is not significant. By the very same tank battle under Karlovka, ours were without loss, the dill lost two T-64 and two armored personnel carriers (burned to the ground).
    17: 45 (MSC) Fierce battles continue behind Staronikolayevka. In principle, they didn’t stop anywhere else.
  20. crasever
    crasever 2 July 2014 17: 55
    +5
    It is high time, according to the tactics of the General of the Vietnamese Army Nguyen Giap, from whose soldiers the French and Americans fled in disgrace, to switch to the "Tet offensive" not the ancient RPG-2, but the all-crushing "shaitan-pipes" - Flies and Bumblebees !!!
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 2 July 2014 18: 06
      +6
      Vietnam was helped by China and the USSR. And who will help us?
      1. crasever
        crasever 2 July 2014 18: 29
        -1
        First of all, the feeling of your native land and the presence of your native people on it will help you (your family is here, by the way) ...
    2. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 2 July 2014 18: 09
      +1
      You must still be able to attack, and not just expose your chest under bullets.
    3. sever.56
      sever.56 2 July 2014 18: 11
      +3
      According to military science, the losses of attackers exceed the losses of the defenders by 3 times.
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 2 July 2014 18: 17
        +2
        If the defenders have the same weapons. And then 10 to the 1st, and then, manage to hold on, and give change with the pill!
      2. family tree
        family tree 2 July 2014 18: 30
        +1
        Quote: sever.56
        According to military science, the losses of attackers exceed the losses of the defenders by 3 times.

        Deuce, actually what
        According to military science, a successful offensive requires at least a three-fold superiority in manpower and equipment on direction of the main blow, or blows. Although, for some fans of frontal attacks, this did not help.
        1. Barakuda
          Barakuda 2 July 2014 18: 45
          +1
          Well, the junta has an advantage every 7th, in all respects, and why are they calving? There is only one answer.
          1. family tree
            family tree 2 July 2014 19: 28
            +1
            Quote: Barracuda
            There is only one answer.

            The answer is two-do not know how. As far as I know, they attack with superior forces, but the losses are awesome
            some fans of frontal attacks and this did not help.
            That is, not only the soldiers, but the command is not up to par
            The answer is three DO NOT WANT. The Army has no motive to fight against its people. She didn’t sharpen it. PMCs and mercenaries will not go to a real enemy either, they don’t need money for the dead, therefore they don’t want to, and as a result, they don’t know how to do it against a real enemy. The exception is the PS battalions, but here you need to look at the answer two, these may and do want, but they can’t. But the PS has a chance to learn from their mistakes, the whole question is, sooner or later they will understand that Kiev is merging them intensely.
  21. donavi49
    donavi49 2 July 2014 18: 10
    +3
    But they managed to do things. Caution 18 + !!!




    Once again, they put a peacek ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 2 July 2014 18: 14
      +1
      And here are the Tornadoes.

      March marking 9M55K.
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        1. donavi49
          donavi49 2 July 2014 18: 23
          +1
          It is 300 mm in diameter, it is marching, it disappears when opening the cassette. And here is the cartridge itself, in it there are 72 combat elements.
      2. 290980
        290980 2 July 2014 18: 22
        +2
        is it such a trace from him?

        1. donavi49
          donavi49 2 July 2014 18: 36
          +1
          It is quite likely that they mostly give fragments, plus a non-contact detonation can. But maybe not this, virtually any cassette element will leave grooves.

          As for doubts, here's a photo of the Tornado combat equipment in the RBE version - which is marked on the label here - http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/gallery/raketnaya-tehnika-iz-fonda-mihaylovskoy-voe
          nnoy-artilleriyskoy-akademii-rossiya-gsankt-peterburg
    2. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 2 July 2014 18: 52
      +1
      Quote: donavi49
      Once again, they put a peacek ...
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 2 July 2014 19: 02
        +1
        Andrey Shevchenko, it would be better to take an example from the namesake.
      2. Shoma-1970
        Shoma-1970 2 July 2014 20: 01
        0
        It is necessary to propagate everywhere and everything!
  22. fly fishing
    fly fishing 2 July 2014 18: 16
    +1
    Right go the Slavs! To beat the junta until destruction, without dialogue. Let them answer for Odessa, for Mariupol and for all killed civilians ...
  23. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 2 July 2014 18: 17
    +6
    As a result of battles from 1.07.14 to 02.07.14, the junta lost:

    - 1 SU-24
    - 4 SU-25
    - 1 Mi-8
    - 9 T-64 tanks
    - 2 BMP
    - 10 BTR
    - 3 Kamaz (with ammunition)
    - 2 Urals (tankers)
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 2 July 2014 18: 37
      +4
      Two Rooks were never shot down (thanks to the Sukhoi design bureau), they landed on one engine. Maybe the pilots will become smarter.
      Anyway, there is no one to repair and restore.
      In Nikolaev in a hostel a bunch of technicians and pilots officers earn a pension from the Crimea - there’s nothing to fly to repair, nothing out of ... Sharo. Beat., Like go on guard.
      Greetings from a neighbor, a technical officer, he just has a house here, so he didn’t stay in Crimea.
  24. Avis24
    Avis24 2 July 2014 18: 18
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    I don’t understand whether the pilots have no pros in dill .. whether the militias have professional snipers .. They cut down aviation every day (I’m not special) but shoot down attack aircraft from MANPADS, etc. in such quantities ..? Maybe someone from the experts will explain? (just not in one conflict this was not observed) In general, well done!


    20 hours of flying a year at best, it just taught aeronautics. but you need at least 120. And combat training with experience and small "secrets" is already a combat pilot. I won't tell you about the secrets, although one of those there with the comment "and nah.fi.g it is necessary" was passed to non-ferrous metal. And in vain, a thing like a lifeline.
  25. Avis24
    Avis24 2 July 2014 18: 19
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    I don’t understand whether the pilots have no pros in dill .. whether the militias have professional snipers .. They cut down aviation every day (I’m not special) but shoot down attack aircraft from MANPADS, etc. in such quantities ..? Maybe someone from the experts will explain? (just not in one conflict this was not observed) In general, well done!


    20 hours of flying a year at best, it just taught aeronautics. but you need at least 120. And combat training with experience and small "secrets" is already a combat pilot. I won't tell you about the secrets, although one of those there with the comment "and nah.fi.g it is necessary" was passed to non-ferrous metal. And in vain, a thing like a lifeline.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 2 July 2014 19: 34
      0
      Quote: Avis24
      20 hours of flying a year at best, it just taught aeronautics. but you need at least 120. And combat training with experience and small "secrets" is already a combat pilot. I won't tell you about the secrets, although one of those there with the comment "and nah.fi.g it is necessary" was passed to non-ferrous metal. And in vain, a thing like a lifeline.

      Understood..probably it is. excuse me ..) This is how tears come to my eyes ...
  26. frostof63
    frostof63 2 July 2014 18: 20
    +2
    Quote: Victor-M
    In essence, Ukraine is a part of Russia

    dill believe the opposite)) I think that we also stole the word Russia from them, I certainly heard that Ukrainians are stubborn, but to such an extent !!! they rewrote the whole story for themselves, the Ministry of Defense Koval live says that the army does not shoot at residential quarters, and you won’t even blink an eye! for dill, we became enemies, and enemies, occupiers, we also consider the intelligentsia there, people who must have brains, like zombies, natural zombies, you can’t call them any other way
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 2 July 2014 18: 27
      +2
      Quote: morozof63
      dill consider the opposite)) I believe that the word Russia we stole from them


      Let them believe they are Svidomo, read Wikipedia. laughing
  27. Igor Pushkino
    Igor Pushkino 2 July 2014 18: 20
    +2
    Quote: aleks 62
    ..... I don’t know about the Su-24 ... If it caught fire, it surely won’t reach ... And the Ukrainians write that they flew another 300 km on one engine .... They are raving .... This brick cannot fly on one ... Checked ... I've seen myself fall a couple of times when one engine fails ... So I think they are swaggering so as not to upset the "fans" .... Moreover, they write that there were already 4 (!!!!) shots at him from MANPADS, and got one ... Brad ... hi

    I’ll add: they still peep that he’s drunk there: they also destroyed the anti-aircraft installation from which he destroyed: laughing They rave at all.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 2 July 2014 18: 45
      +1
      The thing is different ... they fired - then from MANPADS, as the dill themselves write, what is destroyed - the launch tube ??
  28. His
    His 2 July 2014 18: 21
    +1
    God help you. Your cause is right. God see everything.
  29. v245721
    v245721 2 July 2014 18: 23
    +2
    write a lot, worry. but what will we do when Lugansk and Donetsk fall. and everything goes to this. how will Russia change. ???????
    1. Valexav
      Valexav 2 July 2014 19: 50
      -1
      We’ll play in the kitchens .. And throw slippers at the TV set at the sight of the Guarantor.
  30. Mahmut
    Mahmut 2 July 2014 18: 23
    +1
    Quote: Paradoxov
    It looks like the Dome with the Beeches is still not working, repairing?
    Otherwise, drying would be strewed in bunches)

    They would be strewed in clusters if they were flying in clusters. So where to get them in such quantity.
  31. Peter Timofeev
    Peter Timofeev 2 July 2014 18: 43
    +1
    It is time to launch a counterattack and drive fascist evil to the Polish borders. They really want to go to Europe.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 2 July 2014 18: 47
      +1
      So far, in reality, dill has taken the border post Novoshakhtinsk and has again become active in Metalist.
  32. yurik
    yurik 2 July 2014 18: 47
    +2
    Shooters:
    16:10

    We have a hard battle near Nikolaevka. The enemy with a mass of tanks and other equipment pushed our infantry into the village itself and is trying to "squeeze". At the same time, he is trying to cut off Nikolaevka from Semenovka along the "Canal" highway. Enemy artillery works continuously. Fire is also underway on Slavyansk. A civilian bus was shot in the area of ​​the bridge across Kazeny Torets. 2 people killed, 3 - injured. They shoot everything that tries to enter or leave the city.

    17:10

    At the moment, Nikolaevka is surrounded, the battle is between her and Semenovka. The enemy slowly but surely squeezes the ring of the environment. Artillery, "Grad", "Hurricanes" work on positions and residential quarters. The stamina of our infantry cannot stop the armada of armor in conditions where for every three of our fighters there are 1 enemy armor.


    Not good reports .... there seems no help from where to wait, Slavyansk can be captured
  33. Barakuda
    Barakuda 2 July 2014 18: 51
    +1
    Quote: perepilka

    Deuce, actually what
    According to military science, a successful offensive requires no less than three-fold superiority in manpower and equipment in the direction of the main strike,


    Remember the Second World War, did the advantage of the USSR in tanks and planes help ..? in 1941?
    The Maginot and Finami Manerheim Line was built according to "military science", and what did it give them?
  34. coolvoldik
    coolvoldik 2 July 2014 18: 57
    +2
    A massive airstrike was launched against Stanytsia Luganskaya and the surrounding area. Corpses are pulled out of burning houses in Stanytsia Luhanska. A local resident turns to Russia with a rhetorical question: "why is Putin silent?"

    I didn’t watch the video. I can not.
  35. scarp
    scarp 2 July 2014 19: 01
    +2
    I can imagine how much joy there will be in the independence if Slavyansk falls. They will ride until autumn.
  36. Appius
    Appius 2 July 2014 19: 17
    0
    Great job militias! Well done boys.
  37. pvv113
    pvv113 2 July 2014 19: 25
    +3
    Quote: Stiletto
    Do not admit that the hands themselves grow out of a place that is slightly lower than the back.

    And they think this place - in the head of the ukropropaganda there is already no room for thoughts, you have to think what you have to
  38. Pentarhist
    Pentarhist 2 July 2014 19: 30
    0
    http://da-dzi.livejournal.com/294795.html
    Help to the Resistance and Colonel Strelkov
    July 2nd, 19: 08
    If you want to help the Resistance in the occupied territories, Colonel Strelkov, who protects the civilians of Novorossiya, as well as the activities of our Coordination Center "New Russia", but do not know how ...

    1) You can write a letter to [email protected]
    2) Ask me a question in private messages in LiveJournal
    3) Ask me a question on Vkontakte
  39. Varyagi
    Varyagi 2 July 2014 21: 47
    0
    Today the information about the defeatist moods of the Slavyansk militias appeared on the Inter TV and radio company, and they are allegedly preparing the murder of Strelka? Can someone please clarify the information? On TV there is continuous disinformation and negativity. Or maybe it's a smoke screen?
  40. Thompson
    Thompson 2 July 2014 22: 17
    0
    Quote: Shoma-1970
    my beloved is-3, in woft laughing

    The most beautiful and harmonious tank !!!