Russian Navy - 1893 photo of the year

Photos of Russian sailors from the Library of Congress, excellent quality, 1893 year.
(41 photo)

1. Visitors Day in Russian navy.

2. Drinking grog.

1893

Apparently, this is a visit to a military parade.

—————- Ships ————–

3. "Admiral Nakhimov".

4. "Admiral Nakhimov".

5. The cruiser "General-Admiral".

6. The cruiser "General-Admiral".

7. Bell.

8. Ship of the Russian fleet.

9. "Dmitry Donskoy".

10. "Dmitry Donskoy".

11. Crew.

12. Crew.

13.

14.

————— Officers and Sailors —————–

15. Captain of the Russian fleet.

16. Captain of the Russian fleet.

17. Russian fleet officers, 1892 year.

18. The crew of the ship.

19. A group of sailors.

20. A group of sailors.

21. A group of sailors.

22.

23. Sailors

———— ”Government Courts, Russia” ——

24. Inspection of the crew.

25. Sunday inspection of the crew.

26. Day of visitors in the Russian fleet.

-----Service-----

27. On the deck of a Russian ship.

28. The crews of Russian boats are preparing for the race during the Colombian parade of the Navy.

29. Flag waving Russian sailors.

30. Department of generators on the Russian ship.

—————- Life ————-

31. Cabin-company.

32. Captain's cabin.

33. Captain's cabin.

34. Drinking grog.

35. Distribution of grog.

———— War with Japan — peace treaty ——-

36. Russian diplomats and US Navy officers at a conference on the signing of a peace treaty in Portsmouth. On the right is Count Sergey Witte and Baron Rosen, in the center are Russian military officers.

37.

38. Russian and Japanese peace envoys during the signing of a peace treaty. Sato, Takahir, Komura, Father, Adachi, Korostovets, De Rosen, Witte, Navohov and Plankon are sitting around the table from left to right.

39. Comic strip by Japanese artist Kobayashi Kiochiki: a Russian woman had a nightmare about the defeat of the Russian army in the war with Japan. The doctor checks her pulse, two nurses are helping him. Also in the picture there is a priest.

40. The caricature of the same Japanese artist on Russian General Alexei Nikolaevich Kuropatkin in costume and skiing with a white bandana on his head and two broken flags (Russia and the Navy). He is screaming news from the front, passing by a well-dressed Russian couple.

41. Propaganda poster.

NAVY LEAGUE OF US RUSSIAN POSTER

Creator (s): Harris & Ewing, photographer

Comments

[Sakhalininsk]

Interesting photo selection.

[coast]

the author of the ATP for the photo, and before that I saw a photo of Admiral General and his team, can there be more photos in the library?

[Civil]

Very high-quality photos, you see, they shot, including from spy motives)

[6216390]

The revived history of people has long been gone, and we see their faces, customs, entertainment, beautiful ships, order on the deck. Thank.

[dead_exo]

Yes, the order on the deck kapets. sorry now such a rarity (damn would return those times

[alicante11]

Is this Tsushima chtoli?

[drevnij13]

Russian ships have always been famous for their perfect order and crystal clear even in the engine room. Thank you for the interesting photo selection.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Did you notice that many sailors go barefoot? Apparently such things were allowed in those days.

[Iraclius]

The deck is wooden, why not walk. There were leather shoes, and if you constantly scrub the deck in it or climb in the yards, you will not get enough.
Thanks for the selection. You look at the photo and think, but then these sailors could not imagine that in just 11 years, perhaps these most smiling Americans would help the Japanese sink our ships in Port Arthur or in the Tsushima battle.

[Drummer]

Quote: Iraclius

Thanks for the selection. You look at the photo and think, but then these sailors could not imagine that in just 11 years, perhaps these most smiling Americans would help the Japanese sink our ships in Port Arthur or in the Tsushima battle.

Yes, like the Japanese managed independently.

[Iraclius]

Yeah, yourself. Did they give out loans to themselves? And did they buy canned beef from themselves? And the team of Vladivostok cruisers that drowned?

[Taidrem]

Hey author, why did Peter the Great missed him? In those days, he was the strongest ship in the whole world! When he was launched into the water by the British, they were afraid that this was the only monitor capable of traveling around the world. And the power of his guns inspired fear even for the British, and by the way it was built long before the famous English dreadnought, in 1888 it was launched!

[dead_exo]

for which a man then zaminusili ??

[alicante11]

probably for the fact that in 1893 there were already more abruptly ships.

[Taidrem]

Here I do not agree with you! The great Peter until 1903 remained one of the most powerful ships! You look at his gun, despite the fact that the ship is not very small! And he served in the Russian fleet for 90 years, he was dismantled only in 70 years,

[Tourist Breakfast]

In the fourteenth photo like the French.

[PN]

And on the 11th photo, five-pointed stars at the stern of the boat.

[dustycat]

Stopudovo French.

[Vyalik]

Good photos, only one remark. The courts were called civilian, and the military ships. Maybe this is not significant, but in my opinion it’s more correct. And the photos are just excellent. THANKS.

[Per se.]

Quote: Wyalik

They were called civilian ships, and military ships. Maybe this is not essential, but in my opinion it’s more correct.

In those days, these demobilized "wisdom" were not obsessed with the salags. All factories are shipbuilding, even those that build warships. Each ship has a logbook. If you continue this topic and about the fact that "floats" and "walks", then for your objection a photo.

[Drosselmeyer]

In Russia, dolphin sharks have ended, what is being sculpted on the chevrons of bald men?

[Per se.]

Quote: Drosselmeyer

In Russia, dolphin sharks are over

No, it is not over, there are different chevrons, including those from "shark-dolphins". Stripes, after all, are not the main thing, or do you have a different opinion?

[Vyalik]

In 1975, I was drafted into the army and got into 1 naval detachment on the basis of the Pinsk Flotilla. We were taught there that only warships are called a ship, auxiliary and civilian ships are called. If I offended anyone, I apologize. I did not see such ugly chevrons. I mean blue chevron. Looks like a first-grader drawing.

[MREDBEST]

A gorgeous selection, the quality is pretty high for photos of those years! The clothes were so strict and elegant among the Russian nobility of those years, now people dress easier than then! Thank!

[solomon]

The photos are great. Only caricatures out of place.

[Volkhov]

The fleet is really Russian, and even then the Arabs were already in the French boat.

[biglow]

All sailors look like adult men, with such you will not get sick. Hazardousness in those days was definitely not

[Spiegel]

From 11 to 14 photos in boats, sailors are not in our uniform. This is strange: black caps and visors are worn either in wartime or from October 1 to May 1. Visors with white covers are worn from May 1 to October 1 - and in the same photo sailors in both black and white visors. A mess in the navy, or what is it?

By the way, ship and ship are two completely different things. A combat or sailing watercraft - a ship, a civilian and a military auxiliary vessel is obligatory: this is officially accepted in the Navy, and not just according to tradition.

[Per se.]

Quote: Spiegel

By the way, ship and ship are two completely different things.

In their meaning, these are absolutely equal concepts. Ship, from the Greek karabos, which meant a large seagoing vessel as well as a naval vessel of any class. Later, the concept of an aircraft appeared, which includes combat aircraft. The spacecraft does not at all imply its military purpose. The Brita has a ship, - a ship, a vessel, and a ship-broker and a ship-chandler, respectively, a ship broker and a ship supplier. I have already spoken above about ship logs and shipyards for all ships. You can argue to the shit, but these are just "traditions", moreover, established after the revolution. Likewise with the concepts of "walk" and "swim". Some clever people only swim feces in the ice hole, although there is a round-the-world and autonomous swimming, there are combat swimmers who swim, and will specifically fill the face for fantasies with an ice hole. Only Christ could walk "like on dry land". Why people in our fleet have become so original is now difficult to say, but thanks also to the pilots for not being offended by the word "fly".

[Spiegel]

My question is: why all this reasoning about connotations? In maritime schools, cadets are clearly defined what is a ship and what is a ship. And try calling a cruiser or destroyer a ship :-) That's all.

[Per se.]

Reasoning in order, dear Sergey, to understand why in our fleet there are so scrupulously shared notions of equal value. Moreover, even in the Soviet naval dictionary, a "ship" is designated as "a floating vehicle for performing economic, military tasks, scientific research, water sports, etc. It is classified by purpose (transport, fishing, military, administrative and service services, etc.). etc.) ". Moreover, in this definition there was a place for "navigation" - "According to the area of ​​navigation (ships) are divided into sea, inland, mixed and ice navigation." For the Spaniards, who are not new to navigation, the ship and the vessel are designated in one word - barco. The Italians have nave (more specifically, a warship is nave da querra, and a merchant ship is nave mercantile). Similarly, for the Germans, - Schiff (ship, ship), warship (or warship), - Krigsschiff. The British are not original here either, I already recalled them above. Why am I saying this, why do we need it? Perhaps this is more convenient to identify goals, but, unambiguously, those “teachers” who give “clear definitions” in schools muddy the waters, sinking to the level of “demobilizing authority” in such categoricality before the cadets. Previously, our naval officers were a cut above the rest by education, they should be like that, knowing languages, concepts and true maritime traditions, and not spreading nonsense with the legal naval concept of "sailing" and categorical definition of "ship-to-ship".

[Spiegel]

Well, because in the Navy, the toilet is called a latrine, the floor is a deck, a window is a porthole, a cockade on a cap is a crab, a rope end, the end of the building is a pendant, a private is not a soldier, but a sailor, a colonel is a captain of the 1st rank (not everyone, of course, there are colonels too). This is so, for detente, but the division into ships and vessels is not just a fantasy of teachers "muddying the waters" - such a classification is used in all official documents, regulations, etc. Here is an excerpt from the Naval Ship Regulations: "This Charter applies to all ships, boats and boats carrying the naval flag, as well as on special-purpose ships, support vessels manned by military personnel. "

[Per se.]

Regarding the Naval Ship Regulations, you are right, everything is clearly indicated, you are also right that the navy has its own terminology, its own traditions, yes, latrine, yes, tank and yut, yes, compass, not compass. Speaking of ships and ships, one must understand that in addition to military traditions and professional specifics, there are general concepts, as well as other specifics. So, for example, in shipbuilding there is no precise distinction between the terms "ship" and "ship". In general, the concept of "ship" is broader, the same motor boat is not a ship, but is a ship. According to the classification of ships, there are two main groups - these are civilian ships and warships. A ship is a large or military ship. There is no crime to call the Titanic a ship, nor is it a crime to know its metacentric height on a cruiser. Therefore, in my opinion, one should not push so hard with concepts in relation to civil and land. The charters are written by people, what the next charter of the Russian Navy will be depends on what knowledge and concepts people will have.

[Spiegel]

If the topic was not about the fleet, then it would not be worth pushing with concepts. It is a fact. The same media is deeply purple, whether it is a ship, or a vessel - for them it is synonymous. But how much fun it is when you read something like "combat ships of the Baltic Fleet ..." But it was real :-)

[Per se.]

Well, perhaps this is a consequence of the above classification of ships, as well as explanations in explanatory and encyclopedic dictionaries, where not every ship is a ship, but, as it turns out, every ship is also a ship. For this reason alone, "ship" and "ship" are no longer synonymous. The topic is interesting, it can be discussed for a very long time. Thank you for keeping company in the dialogue.

[aleks.baa2012]

In those days there was no such thing as to humiliate one another, valor and honor were then revered in the first place !!!!

[Uzoliv]

In the Navy, in our understanding, there was no bullying at that time. But it was quite possible to get in the teeth from a boatswain, non-commissioned officer or officer. Basically, they were beaten not out of malice, but as they said to "put in order." Here is an excerpt from KM Stanyukevich's story "First Years" (by the way, he has wonderful Mors stories, I read excitedly in my childhood)
"- They say that the severity is great at sea, Zakharych?
- How to be ... But only if you yourself keep yourself strict,
then there’s nothing to tear you like a goat for Sidorov, if the commander and senior officer
punished not in vain or in the unconsciousness of the mind, but with honor and reason ... Without
collection is impossible ... Such a demanding naval service ... ".
And although they seemed to be beaten only for "order", the sailors of 17 officers remembered everything.

[Garrin]

Quote: Uzoliv

(he has wonderful stories, by the way, of Morse stories, I read excitedly as a child)

Similarly.

[Yoshkin Kot]

what persons, not yet mutilated by "Marxism" and robberies

[Captain45]

Quote: Civil

Very high-quality photos, you see, they shot, including from spy motives)

It is possible, it seemed to me, but there is some kind of shadow on the photo of the cruisers around the edge of the photo, like a side view of a porthole, maybe they were photographing from the cabin of some little ship. As a rule, there were always a lot of them in the raids when the ships were moored. from the library of the US Congress, which itself leads to suspicion. And why are these excellent photos of the history of our Russian fleet located in a foreign library, and not in the Central Naval Museum of the Russian Navy?

[pinecone]

And why are these excellent photos of the history of our Russian fleet located in a foreign library, and not in the Central Naval Museum of the Russian Navy?

The Library of Congress has a huge amount of documents taken by Russian emigrants abroad after 1917, including a wonderful collection of color photographs of Prokudin-Gorsky. See http: //prokudin-gorskiy.ru/tree.php

[Taoist]

Everything is fine ... but what are the photos of French sailors doing in the collection about the Russian Navy? (Photos 12 and 14) It is still necessary to be more scrupulous ... Well, not "distribution of grog" (it was not drunk in the Russian Navy since birth) but "distribution of a wine portion".

[Anatoly]

... Photo 12-14? Pictures from a Russian ship in port - passing French boats to his ship. That’s the whole secret. Confuses another. The exposure from the camera of that enormous time when photographing reached seconds. And the pictures, specifically the oars, are not blurry. I wonder why? 1893 year. The weight of the camera reached 200 kg. The whole art of shooting dynamic sims (in motion).
... I have behind me two sailors KHMURP (1967-1971), OVIMU (1972-1977), finalized to Art. fur. I came across a transitional period from old fleet traditions to new ones. I had to work a bit on the steam vessels of the still older ones - Scottish steam fire tube boilers, with a pressure of 16 ati, all manually (shift 12 through 12), as in these pictures. The mechanisms are familiar, almost down to the details.
... Striking order on the deck and wearing uniforms. I have not seen this on modern sailing ships! Especially, I emphasize, the rope-laying culture has been brought to grace. The reason is not the rigor of the boatswain and deck officers (there was), but the consequences of negligence when setting sail in windy weather. Hence the culture - grafted with blood. The sea of ​​mistakes does not forgive!

[Roman1970]

A good selection, I have never seen such photos.