Capture of the building of the Department of Internal Affairs in Donetsk. "Demon" or not "Demon"?

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A spokesman for the government of the Donetsk People’s Republic said that an attempt was made to seize power in Donetsk. It is reported that the commander of one of the militia units (with a base in the city of Gorlovka) with the call sign "Bes" (Igor Bezler) seized the building of the Donetsk Department of Internal Affairs with the help of subordinate fighters. Reports about it RIA News.

Capture of the building of the Department of Internal Affairs in Donetsk. "Demon" or not "Demon"?


Agency interlocutor:

Igor Bezler, nicknamed Bes with his squad captured the building ATC.


An antiterrorist operation is currently underway, and in the event of resistance, the terrorists will be destroyed.


The authorities of the DPR report about five wounded during an exchange of fire near the building of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Donetsk.

The press service of the Government of the DPR reported that a criminal case had already been initiated in the republic under the article “Illegal seizure of power”.

This is the first time that a representative of the national militia was called a terrorist in the Donetsk People’s Republic.

Meanwhile, in social networks, residents of the city of Gorlovka claim that Igor Bezler did not leave the city anywhere, as did the men of his squad. If this is so, then the seizure of air traffic control by the “Demon” militia is an obvious provocation that pours water on the Kiev mill. To clarify the situation, you need to wait for detailed information about who really captured the Donetsk Department of Internal Affairs, and where Igor Bezler is now.

For reference: Igor Nikolaevich Bezler (49 years) - born in Simferopol. He headed the Gorlovsky public organization of veterans of the Airborne Forces. Since April 17, Igor Bezler, whom Kiev calls the “Russian saboteur”, is wanted on the territory of Ukraine. Bezler claimed responsibility for the attack on a column of Ukrainian security forces in the vicinity of Volnovakhi.
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    1. +20
      1 July 2014 18: 24
      if that goes on, then that's for sure !!
      1. +9
        1 July 2014 18: 28
        Kievrad plans to rename Vozdukhoflotsky into Stepan Bandera Avenue.
        The embassy of the Russian Federation is located there.
        Link: http://vesti.ua/kiev/59102-kievrada-planiruet-pereimenovat-vozduhoflotskij-v-pro

        spekt-stepana-bandery

        How do you like that? fool
        1. mad
          +21
          1 July 2014 18: 32
          In the ability to ride and troll dill, recognized geniuses.
          1. +5
            1 July 2014 18: 39
            Quote: mad
            In the ability to ride and troll dill, recognized geniuses.

            Dill (those who are zombified by propaganda) a toy in the hands of a puppeteer!
          2. Eugeniy_369k
            -1
            2 July 2014 03: 22
            And this has to do with it? You were given the news that the field commanders in the DPR are squabbling among themselves, and you squeezed out of the bulldozer, well, right, the main thing is that "Ukrainians goats..y!" Well, in principle, you are not alone. Bezler at least his own, Borodai finally come.
            1. 0
              2 July 2014 05: 28
              And what is the difference, to shoot in a city with a population of one million or a hundred thousand? Is that the trunks used are somewhat different, the so-called. the legitimate prezik of dill uses howitzers and tanks, and the "so-called" the leadership of the DPR - Kalash. Well, you can also recall the shooting in a million-plus city like Kiev. There, too, "so-called" the leadership of the DPR noted? And about the "squabble". Firstly, you will not wait, and secondly, everyone is always attached to a good deed. Which then have to be cleaned, like the IVS in the 37th.
            2. 0
              2 July 2014 06: 24
              Quote: Eugeniy_369k
              And this has to do with it? You were given the news that the field commanders in the DPR are squabbling among themselves, and you squeezed out of the bulldozer, well, right, the main thing is that "Ukrainians goats..y!" Well, in principle, you are not alone. Bezler at least his own, Borodai finally come.



              Dear, before leading into the propaganda of Dill, see other sources, for example:
              http://voicesevas.ru/news/
              1. Eugeniy_369k
                0
                2 July 2014 23: 20
                Quote: baitly
                Dear, before being conducted on the propaganda of Dill, see other sources

                I am terribly sorry, but since when is some kind of "sniffed" site more reliable than RIA Novosti? You might as well have cited "OBS news source" (One grandmother said)
                And about the propaganda for some kind of "Dill", I will write like this
                Schizophrenia (from other Greek. Σχίζω - split and φρήν - mind, reason), previously lat. Dementia praecox ("premature dementia") is a polymorphic mental disorder. The most common manifestations of the disease are auditory hallucinations, paranoid or fantastic nonsense or disorganization of speech and thinking against the background of significant social dysfunction and impaired performance.
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        2. +11
          1 July 2014 18: 35
          These can! I have already stopped buying Ukrainian products, suddenly they will pour strychnine!
          1. +9
            1 July 2014 18: 55
            I don’t know about you, but the aabamka believes that for taste in a beaten house, crack is added to pies !!!
            1. +1
              1 July 2014 22: 12
              It looks like that. The "roof" rustles quietly with slate ...
        3. +5
          1 July 2014 18: 37
          Quote: SibRUS
          Kievrad plans to rename Vozdukhoflotsky into Stepan Bandera Avenue.
          The embassy of the Russian Federation is located there.
          Link: http://vesti.ua/kiev/59102-kievrada-planiruet-pereimenovat-vozduhoflotskij-v-pro


          spekt-stepana-bandery

          How do you like that? fool

          But they will rename it, even in spite!
          1. +8
            1 July 2014 18: 53
            But they will rename it, even in spite!

            "To spite my mother, I'll frostbite"! To your health, dill! , HALF, by God!
        4. +11
          1 July 2014 18: 59
          In Moscow, the street where the Ukrainian Embassy is located is renamed SMERSH Street!
          1. +4
            1 July 2014 19: 49
            Or to the street of victory over fascism!
            1. +2
              1 July 2014 23: 18
              to Strelkova street !!!
          2. SSR
            +3
            1 July 2014 23: 01
            Quote: azbukin77
            In Moscow, the street where the Ukrainian Embassy is located is renamed SMERSH Street!

            Nope. A lot of honor to banderlozhkam. Estimate how it would sound in the news release - a group of liberals led by Kasparov came to the Ukrainian Embassy at ul. House of Babuins 6. The Embassy of Ukrainians located in Moscow on the street of Babuinov made a statement ...... The Consulate of Ukraine in St. Petersburg on Banderlog Street made a statement ...... We are smart)))
            1. 0
              2 July 2014 03: 06
              So the embassy on the Air Fleet is located ...
          3. 0
            2 July 2014 05: 53
            To Sudoplatova street
        5. 0
          1 July 2014 21: 21
          How, yes, complete chaos, moral and political !!!!!!!! am negative
          1. typhoon7
            0
            1 July 2014 22: 19
            The militia took the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, seven cops were killed, forty-five were injured, the head was arrested. Bezler is not in business here, the junta is throwing in information and it’s clear for what purpose.
        6. 0
          2 July 2014 06: 43
          Recall the ambassador. Transfer the embassy to Donetsk and, for protection, allocate a couple of special forces brigades and an air regiment. Rename the Kiev station to "Strelkovsky".
      2. +13
        1 July 2014 18: 35
        Strelkov, about Donetsk again: Yes, in Donetsk it is forever - "now diarrhea, now scrofula." To be honest, I have long been tired of hearing any news from there - they are constantly negative and all about squabbles, squabbles and "sharing the skin of an unkilled bear." To arrange a massacre among themselves in the face of an advancing enemy is "the very thing." We will not interfere. Personally, I don't care for a long time - who will be the "main" in Donetsk - if only there was ONE main. Even Bes, even Khodokovsky, at least someone else. Only Medvedchuk somehow completely disagrees ... :) https://vk.com/k_shtab?w=wall-64997786_12633

        Something there is muddy .. with Slavyansky everyone clearly stands to their own death .. But Donetsk Lugansk is not clear whose power is there .. the cities are million-strong .. Now we need to unite as never before .. I hope that this is simply a misunderstanding soon resolved ..
        1. +5
          1 July 2014 18: 42
          Quote: MIKHAN
          ..And here is Donetsk

          Here's what there!

          DNR authorities: The authorities in Donetsk are trying to capture Bes, there is a battle in the city
          Field commander Igor Bezler, nicknamed "Bes", tried to seize power in Donetsk. This was announced by the representative of the Prime Minister of the DPR, Alexander Boroday. There is a battle in the city.

          The clash of militias and terrorists in the city reports RIA Novosti.

          “Igor Bezler, nicknamed Bes and his detachment, seized the police department building,” the agency’s interlocutor said.

          Earlier, the regional administration of RIA Novosti reported that five people were injured in a shootout near the main department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the Donetsk region.

          “At present, an anti-terrorist operation is underway, and in case of resistance, the terrorists will be destroyed,” the source said.

          Meanwhile, official Kiev authorities report that officers loyal to Kiev, who resist militias, are in the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

          The commander of the militia of Donbass Rudenko told RT that he was not going to comment on this information about the fighting in the city.

          On the night of June 30 on July 1, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko announced the cancellation of the ceasefire. Security forces fired on the positions of militias near Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.

          The militia destroyed the television tower in return fire in Slavyansk.

          The fighting began on the outskirts of Donetsk. So according to local media, near the village of Karlovka there was a battle between the security forces and militias using tanks.

          Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/38964#ixzz36E6bx2MW
        2. +4
          1 July 2014 18: 57
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Donetsk Lugansk is not clear whose power there .. cities are millionaires.

          I allow myself to disagree with this statement! If in Donetsk it is approaching a million, then Lugansk is far from this figure. At best, half live there.
        3. +2
          1 July 2014 19: 13
          This Igor Bezler was warned back in the spring, when the buds were just swelling in the trees, that it was a dark horse playing along with Kiev. He has almost the same cops in the detachment, there are no strangers. But the most curious thing is that among the Donetsk cops, there are no honest ones. However, like in Russia.
          1. +4
            1 July 2014 23: 34
            Quote: juborg
            About this Igor Bezler, warned in the spring

            How easily we begin to doubt people ...
            Today in the center of Donetsk there is a battle between the militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and the Ukrainian security forces. Policemen loyal to the Kiev government, led by General Konstantin Pozhidaev, barricaded themselves in the police department building and hold the defenses - militiamen are trying to get them out of there, said Igor Bezler. “At the same time, misinformation was launched that Alexander Borodai and other leaders of the DPR declared our people (Bezler’s people) terrorists and ordered to be destroyed. Now our people have figured out everything. ”
            - said the commander of the Donbass militia.
        4. 0
          2 July 2014 04: 51
          MIKHAN
          Something there is muddy .. with Slavyansky everyone clearly stands to their own death .. But Donetsk Lugansk is not clear whose power is there .. the cities are million-strong .. Now we need to unite as never before .. I hope that this is simply a misunderstanding soon resolved ..

          And against this background, exclamations about the entry of Russian troops?
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      4. +3
        1 July 2014 18: 59
        POPA is cool laughing
      5. +3
        1 July 2014 18: 59
        It should be the opposite-the territory of Ukraine-one big hole hi
      6. 0
        1 July 2014 21: 39
        Yes, such an ass will be torn into German characters!
      7. +4
        1 July 2014 21: 42
        The incomprehension is complete, what kind of help Russia can be here. they can’t understand each other. Both leaders and people, that’s the answer to Putin’s actions. You can substitute in full, let them understand for now. I hope everyone knows the Ukrainians' craving for power and theft, maybe that's why for 23 years now some Maidan
        1. +2
          1 July 2014 22: 20
          Quote: Sterlya
          what help can there be to Russia.

          If the tail was not pulled in front of the partners, but engaged in the Donbass, there would be fewer incomprehensions.
    2. +12
      1 July 2014 18: 26
      Ukrovsky some kind of mutnyak gentlemen
      1. portoc65
        0
        1 July 2014 18: 27
        Along the way, the commanders themselves will not understand ...
      2. +16
        1 July 2014 18: 28
        Therefore, Russia should not meddle there, let them first sort it out among themselves, or else we’ll substitute in full.
        1. +21
          1 July 2014 18: 59
          That is why they did not poke their heads in - and asked to wait with the referendums - after all, they spoke Russian - it was not the time. Those who start such things in two days - people had to be prepared - subordination - from top to bottom must be unquestioning. After all, this is the ATO - just a gift to the Ukropov and American fascists ... The peaceful people were framed, the GDP was framed - it is now gnawed by all and sundry - "leaked, passed ...". Those who are now sitting at the checkpoints and paying for everything with their blood are puffing. And when I think that in Slavyansk, in broken houses, no one needs old people, without food, without water and medicines, they lie and wait for death .... I just want to howl from impotence. There are a hell of a lot of miners - hefty guys - and where are they all? .... Now in St. Petersburg we are assembling another "train" - the most necessary thing, how they will get there is unknown - and most importantly, who will get all this in the hands ...
          1. +2
            1 July 2014 22: 25
            Quote: Akulina
            and with referenda asked to wait

            Here Odessa waited, and Kharkov, and Dnepropetrovsk. They work for banderlogs, arm banderlogs and fight for banderlogs.
            Quote: Akulina
            GDP framed

            By itself. Friends business suffers.
            1. +1
              2 July 2014 01: 17
              Quote: Karabin
              Quote: Akulina
              GDP framed

              By itself. Friends business suffers.

              Are you talking about two Jews and one Ukrainians? :))
          2. 0
            2 July 2014 05: 52
            That's why they did not poke their head around - and they asked the referenda to wait - after all, they spoke the Russian language - this is not the time.
            At first. At first, Putin personally promised to protect everyone and not quit. Secondly. They would wait - they would all be in prison. Miners create a battalion of the National Guard or two.
      3. +6
        1 July 2014 18: 29
        We need clear information, and then we can talk.
        1. +4
          1 July 2014 18: 44
          Quote: Thought Giant
          We need clear information, and then we can talk.

          I don’t know, but RIA Novosti always trusted and their information is always serious. They write that the police department was seized, but do not specify which one. And in the oblast there is a battle and from Kiev they confirm the deaths and injuries of police officers.
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      5. portoc65
        +5
        1 July 2014 18: 51
        It’s a pity Igor StrelkoV is not in Donetsk, he would really put things in order
        1. jonh
          +2
          1 July 2014 19: 17
          honestly recalls the reasoning of a teenager of 30 years
      6. +16
        1 July 2014 18: 54
        According to an informed source, in Donetsk there are fights with policemen who suddenly turn out to be loyal to Kiev, led by General Konstantin Pozhidaev and militia DNR.

        When Poroshenko spoke about his 5-th column in Donetskmost likely he meant policemen avid for money, ranks and others "gingerbread"From the junta.

        According to incoming information, at the moment general with loyal junta police officers, is located in the building of the former regional administration of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the Donetsk region (Gorky St., village of 61).


        Why should Bezler, based in Gorlovka, go to Donetsk and occupy the ATC building at the time of the AO junta on all fronts? Very clumsy work of fascist provocateurs.

        http://voicesevas.ru/2370-boi-mestnogo-znacheniya-v-donecke.html

        Please do not broadcast Urco Throws ... wink
        1. +5
          1 July 2014 20: 03
          The same stuffing was about the disorder of Bolotov and Brain in the LPR.
    3. MSA
      MSA
      +5
      1 July 2014 18: 26
      Spread the fifth column in full !!!
    4. +5
      1 July 2014 18: 26
      If this is true, then there is probably no single militia in the Donbass. Sadly.
      1. Andrey82
        +6
        1 July 2014 18: 32
        So Ukrainians sometimes fight among themselves - the National Guard and the PS with the army, so what? But in fact - in Donetsk, Makhnovism is as it is with individual units. In Lugansk everything seems to be better organized.
      2. +6
        1 July 2014 18: 34
        Quote: roman72-452
        If this is true, then there is probably no single militia in the Donbass. Sadly.

        Do not succumb to provocations! Everything needs to be checked 1000 times!
      3. Alexan
        +1
        1 July 2014 19: 54
        Once again, it shows that the Kremlin has always spit. All great things are done on enthusiasm! What are all these: SVR-GRU-FSB ...? Where is the organization, planning? If there are no plans for S / V, tell the activists directly before they become militias. There are many puppeteers, but they are not pulling by the ropes, but by each other's "koki"!
        1. stranik72
          +5
          1 July 2014 20: 13
          What you are talking about has long been semi-commercial organizations, although the FSB is still often used to destroy militants in the Caucasus, judging by one of the sites in the prestigious Moscow cemetery, unfortunately with losses. On the external "front", remember there was an unsuccessful attempt to destroy one of the Chechen field commanders in Qatar, disgraced to the whole world. After that, they apparently realized that they were not capable, and stopped twitching. It's easier to cover the "grandmother". The GRU is in its infancy after the reforms of Tubaretkin, the SVR, after a series of betrayals, is apparently knocked down. So, everything is, as usual, important only the pipe, and the state security is the 10th thing.
          1. Andrey82
            +5
            1 July 2014 20: 34
            Nevertheless, there were officers in our army who planned and carried out the operation in Crimea better than all praise. So far, everything is holding on. Till...
          2. +1
            2 July 2014 05: 00
            Wanderer 72 analyst. There would be more of these and in Russia another party will be formed. (Balabolnaya)
        2. +1
          2 July 2014 05: 35
          Once again, it shows that the Kremlin has always spit. All great things are done on enthusiasm! What are all these: SVR-GRU-FSB ...? Where is the organization, planning? If there are no plans for S / V, tell the activists directly before they become militias. There are many puppeteers, but they are not pulling by the ropes, but by each other's "koki"!


          How old are you, enthusiast, I thought so in 15-20 years. Without the SVR-GRU-FSB-KGB-CIA-MI-6, not a single revolution was made, at least not of those that are so called, because they won :).
    5. Yaks
      0
      1 July 2014 18: 27
      And the meaning .....
    6. +2
      1 July 2014 18: 29
      Some misunderstandings, however ... Let's wait for more info ...
    7. +8
      1 July 2014 18: 31
      One thing is clear, nothing is clear recourse
    8. +4
      1 July 2014 18: 31
      In short, the DNR is a mess and the lack of a single command, unlike Lugansk. Parts of Ukraine’s military and military units are still in the city, the police are not under control or not disarmed, and now the showdown has begun. There are several pieces of equipment in the city, and nobody really helps Strelkov. Who obeys xs to whom? My opinion is that in the army of New Russia there should be unity of command and nothing else, as well as a headquarters and rear, which would distribute resources to where they are needed.
      1. -1
        1 July 2014 22: 03
        In Lugansk, the same thing. Mozgovoy accused the devil of knowing what Bolotov was, and Bolotov accused Mozgovoy and Kozitsyn of holding their forces on the second line, engaged in banditry and looting. In general, only one thing can be said about the DPR and LPR: command, all groups act in the interests of individuals who organized and are engaged in providing these groups. There is a simple example of a war for sphere of influence. Even in some DNR blogs, bloggers point out that almost no one submits to anyone.
    9. +6
      1 July 2014 18: 33
      Capture of the building of the Internal Affairs Directorate in Donetsk. "Demon" or not "Demon"? - it hurts like a fake!
      1. Old Cynic
        +1
        1 July 2014 20: 21
        And my mom, I'm sorry, shooting and explosions near the house do not seem fake!
        1. +3
          1 July 2014 22: 01
          So don’t stay at home, but protect your mother.
        2. +1
          2 July 2014 05: 39
          And my mom, I'm sorry, shooting and explosions near the house do not seem fake!


          Do you have relatives in every hot spot?
          Do you see the root of how it all began? From Maydaun. They didn’t shoot in Ukrainian cities. But in the cities of dill - for some reason, steel.
    10. Steel loli
      +5
      1 July 2014 18: 37
      And you thought why Ossetia did not recognize the DPR, although it recognized the LPR. And Strelkov repeatedly complained that of all the Russian aid coming to the DPR to Slavyansk, only the crumbs reach, most settle in Donetsk itself, where the Ukrainian National Guard and Pushilin’s militias quietly coexist.
      Such are the cases.
      In short, the DNR is a mess and the lack of a single command, unlike Lugansk.

      Actually, the official commander-in-chief of the DPR militias is Strelkov. But in fact "Donetsk" by themselves.
    11. +3
      1 July 2014 18: 37
      If Yarema's correspondence with Koval is not fake, then the legs grow from there, plus- Bloody called the owners on the phone for a reason, received instructions. Yatsenyuk was going to show the course of the ATO in real life on ukroTV, "truthfully cover the events", can you imagine what misinformation, outright lies and dirt will pour into the eyes and ears of dill ?!
      1. +3
        1 July 2014 19: 05
        Yes, they have nothing but feces!
    12. a boat
      +1
      1 July 2014 18: 46
      [quote = yakov] And the point ..... [/ quote now there will be a question! For reference, the number of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Donbass of about 17 thousand 500 employees can’t be neglected by such a reserve, but like 1 employee 200,2 heavy 300
    13. +1
      1 July 2014 18: 49
      MOSCOW, July 1 - RIA Novosti. The Ukrainian armed forces and border guards have regained control over the Dolzhansky checkpoint, previously held by the militia, according to the president's website on Tuesday.

      Earlier it was reported that the militias set up their checkpoint at the Dolzhansky border checkpoint in the Luhansk region.

      "Over the past day, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, together with the State Border Service, have restored control over the Dolzhansky checkpoint and restored its work," the president's website says.

      According to the report, the sappers cleared the checkpoint, defusing 15 bombs in the adjacent territories and 20 directly at the point.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140701/1014317864.html#ixzz36EDu056l
      1. +2
        1 July 2014 19: 22

        01.07.2014/19/18, XNUMX:XNUMX The correspondent of "KP":

        "The militias report that while trying to seize the Izvarino post, the military suffered losses: 1 armored personnel carrier, 2 infantry fighting vehicles and 2 Urals with cannons."
        1. -2
          1 July 2014 22: 06
          Quote: Russ69
          "The militias report that while trying to seize the Izvarino post, the military suffered losses: 1 armored personnel carrier, 2 infantry fighting vehicles and 2 Urals with cannons."

          Can you explain to me how you can capture the checkpoint with the Urals, which have guns in the trailer? And yet, in the morning complaining of the overwhelming superiority of artillery, which is practically impossible to get, in intense battles the loss of militia is two fell and one sprained leg? And how can you trust such information?
    14. 0
      1 July 2014 18: 50
      If this is not a provocation, but the truth, then I don’t understand anything at all! At the most difficult moment, such a showdown is worse than any betrayal.
      1. +3
        1 July 2014 19: 08
        Quote: sever.56
        If this is not a provocation, but the truth, then I don’t understand anything at all! At the most difficult moment, such a showdown is worse than any betrayal.

        There is an info war..Ukrarmiya screwed up along the way and they begin the tactics of separation and panic .. Shooters in place on the positions and this is important!
        And here's another for information about Heroes pugs
        UkroSMI reported: Ukrainian artillery defeated the training camp of militias near Slavyansk, killing more than 250 people. True or not? Of course not! It was not a camp that was defeated, but a group of camps. It’s not 250 that died, but 2500 militias! Three times as many wounded ... The militia flees, dropping dozens of tanks and planes, and the terrorist mercenaries are completely joining the side of the ATO forces. Closehttps: //plus.google.com/u/0/100034563433679984128/posts/GLfSw ..

        So think what's what .. (State Department instructors feel the work ..) But Putin is silent infection ..
        1. 0
          1 July 2014 20: 44
          Yes, actually they are their tricks. Controversy, quarrel and seize the moment.
      2. +6
        1 July 2014 19: 28
        Quote: sever.56
        At the most difficult moment, such a showdown is worse than any betrayal.

        In Russian, the other infa !!!


        “Several dozens of militiamen surrounded the buildings of the municipal police department and the Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Donetsk Region. The buildings are nearby. Employees of the city government managed to partially evacuate. As a result of the assault there are wounded. Regarding the situation in the State Ministry of Internal Affairs - there is no information. Shooting continues there, ”employees of the Donetsk city police department reported. Communication with the staff of the State Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Donetsk region is absent.

        The commander of the DPR army, Igor Strelkov, commented on the events:

        “The object is being captured. Before the assault, it is necessary to clean the "rear".

        Among fighters of army of Donetsk republic who storm the building of the Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Donetsk region, most likely there are ex-employees of "Berkut". Reports about it the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.

        “Among the militia, who are storming in their hands the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Donetsk Region, there are most likely former employees of the Berkut special forces who have sided with the so-called DPR. They carefully hide their faces under balaclavas, but local law enforcement officers noted that they recognized several of them in appearance and voice. Also, some of them are dressed in elements of the “Golden Eagle” uniform. "These uniforms remained with those" Berkut residents "who did not pass certification and those who voluntarily went over to the side of the DPR."

        According to preliminary data, the junta sent a special squad “Falcon”, known for the murder of Alexander Muzychko, nicknamed “Sashko Bily”, to reinforce the security of the Donetsk regional State Ministry of the Interior. It is they who provide the most fierce resistance.
        1. INFOLegioner
          +1
          1 July 2014 20: 46
          "... According to preliminary data, the junta sent a special forces detachment" Sokol "to strengthen the protection of the Donetsk regional GU MVD ..." - this quote explains the movement and stirring around and among the cops. It remains now to find out on whose side they are, and what is Bezler doing there ??? (if he is there at all))) hi
        2. 0
          1 July 2014 20: 57
          Yes, thanks, I read Russian spring.
    15. +2
      1 July 2014 18: 52
      the information war is on, the news is very well corrected with the aggravation of hostilities, another rumor the militia cleans the units loyal to Kiev, in its rear, we will wait ...
      1. +15
        1 July 2014 19: 40
        Quote: nov_tech.vrn
        there is an information war, the news is very well adjusted with the aggravation of hostilities,


        Just a confirmation !!!!

        Donetsk: Bezler is loyal to the DPR; against the Bezler detachment, they launched a desu ukroSMI

        In the center of Donetsk, there is a battle between the militia of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the Ukrainian security forces. Svidomye ukrovoyaki-militiamen, headed by General Konstantin Pozhidaev, barricaded themselves in the building of the Internal Affairs Directorate and held the defense - they are now being smoked out by our militias. This is a desperate attempt by Kiev to strike from within. At the same time, a misinformation was launched on the media, "that Boroday and others declared Bezler's people terrorists and ordered to destroy." Bezler's men went to investigate. They found out everything. Now it will be catching moles and Kiev Svidomo that they arranged it. In the ATC only ukrovoyaks. Bezler's people were not taking over anything. Bezler is completely loyal to the DPR! There is no discord in the DPR. Source: http://da-dzi.livejournal.com/292920.html

        Source: http://politikus.ru/events/23178-doneck-bezler-loyalen-dnr-protiv-otryada-bezler
        a-zapustili-dezu-ukrosmi.html
        Politikus.ru
        1. +1
          1 July 2014 20: 13
          Everything is fine Madam, the overwhelming majority of this "infe" - did not believe it, they are already accustomed to the "stuffing" by the ukrovoyaks ... They are conducting a systematic offensive, the plan of which has been developed for them "overseas" and such stuffing is part of such an offensive.
        2. Old Cynic
          +2
          1 July 2014 20: 43
          In the center of Donetsk there is a battle


          There is no battle from 17.40 Moscow time!
          The cordon, however, remains, but the database is not maintained.
        3. 0
          1 July 2014 22: 45
          Quote: Egoza
          Source: http: // da-dzi.
          Lena, believe this source? A very dubious shot, always confirms everything is correct, sculpted by a friend of Leva Vershinin (Traveler-confused).
          Quote: lonely
          Can you explain to me how you can capture the checkpoint with the Urals, which have guns in the trailer? And yet, in the morning complaining of the overwhelming superiority of artillery, which is practically impossible to get, in intense battles the loss of militia is two fell and one sprained leg? And how can you trust such information?
          No way. For an example. Fights for the Donetsk airport. Explain to me where this clown shoots in the photo with a training inert shot.
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 10: 43
            Quote: baltika-18
            No way. For an example. Fights for the Donetsk airport. Explain to me where this clown shoots in the photo with a training inert shot.

            Well, yes.))) They’ll tell you now)) They’re just imitating a fight. Recently there was a video about the capture. Two of them are fired with single shots, the third one fills the shops. They all do it to their full height. A dozen journalists are also nearby who talk about the battle and complain about the military. IN FULL GROWTH)) imitation of the battle to get their salary

            Someone said one beautiful phrase: A lie that is repeated a thousand times becomes true! "
    16. KIRON
      +3
      1 July 2014 18: 57
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/807/lxho848.jpg
    17. +7
      1 July 2014 18: 58
      Donetsk: Bezler is loyal to the DPR; against the Bezler detachment, they launched a desu ukroSMI

      In the center of Donetsk, there is a battle between the militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and the Ukrainian security forces. Svidomo ukrovoyaki-militiamen, headed by General Konstantin Pozhidaev, barricaded themselves in the building of the Internal Affairs Directorate and held the defenses - they are smoked from there by our militias. This is a desperate attempt by Kiev to strike from the inside.

      At the same time, a misinformation was launched on the media, "that Boroday and others declared Bezler's people terrorists and ordered to destroy." Bezler's men went to investigate. They found out everything. Now it will be catching moles and Kiev Svidomo that they arranged it.

      In the Internal Affairs Directorate only ukrovoyaki. Bezler’s people didn’t capture anything.

      Bezler is completely loyal to the DPR! Disagreement in the DNI - no.
    18. +4
      1 July 2014 18: 58
      Legs and ears grow because of the puddle. The more dirt and lies, the easier it is to manipulate the Ukrotolpa in a muddy water, and the more to split the joint DEFENSE! They snapped today, brought confusion, while everything is checked, you can lie again! And the Psuki will only podsuyut! So my opinion is, without checking and confirming or denying the facts. CONCLUSIONS TO DO NEVER!
      1. +2
        1 July 2014 19: 08
        Hmm ... All the events AHEAD ... Economy ASKES FOR MONEY ... AND NO MONEY !!!
    19. +7
      1 July 2014 18: 59
      According to an informed source, in Donetsk there are fights with policemen who suddenly turn out to be loyal to Kiev, led by General Konstantin Pozhidaev and militia DNR.

      When Poroshenko spoke about his 5-th column in Donetskmost likely he meant policemen avid for money, ranks and others "gingerbread"From the junta.

      According to incoming information, at the moment general with loyal junta police officers, is located in the building of the former regional administration of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine in the Donetsk region (Gorky St., village of 61).


      Why should Bezler, based in Gorlovka, go to Donetsk and occupy the ATC building at the time of the AO junta on all fronts? Very clumsy work of fascist provocateurs.


      http://voicesevas.ru/2370-boi-mestnogo-znacheniya-v-donecke.html

      Please do not broadcast Urco Throws ... wink
    20. +4
      1 July 2014 19: 02
      Igor Nikolaevich Bezler (49 years old)

      Well, here’s an example, a German protects Russians from ukronatsiks, and local Russian guys go hand in hand and to Russia
      1. ComradeMauser
        +1
        1 July 2014 22: 19
        Quote: 290980
        German protects


        Why do you think he is German? Judge by name? I know about a dozen gypsies by the name of Ivanov, and so what?
        The main thing is not nationality. The main thing is that there is a battle in Donetsk. And I very much hope that the information on the participation of Bezler in this fight is ukrovbros. Otherwise, the heaviest punishment under the laws of wartime ...
        1. 0
          1 July 2014 23: 28
          I know about a dozen gypsies by the name of Ivanov

          something I don’t remember a single gypsy who left his mark on Russian history a little bit, can you remind me? just not Budulaya
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 06: 12
            something I don’t remember a single gypsy who left his mark on Russian history a little bit, can you remind me? just not Budulaya
            In the history of Russian culture, Nikolai Slichenko, a wonderful actor and singer. Rosa Dzhelakaeva, Peter Demeter. But unfortunately, even if we list everyone, it is not so much. They are now famous for others.
            1. 0
              2 July 2014 18: 40
              Quote: aleks700
              They are now famous for others.

              one might think earlier they were doing something else, but are there among them personalities on par with, say, Baron Ungern?
    21. +4
      1 July 2014 19: 02
      In the Izvarino area, fierce fighting continues. The militias have several 200's (about 10 people) and 300's. The enemy lost the destroyed and destroyed 6 T-64 tanks, several infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers, the number of dead from the junta is unknown. At the moment, the militia holds the position at the transition, the battles continue.


      More information - here:
      http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/2375-obzor-boevoy-situacii-za-1-iyulya.htm
      l
    22. +2
      1 July 2014 19: 04
      Donetsk The attack on Karlovka ended with the destruction of 2 tanks and the retaliatory punishment. Looks like an attempt to unlock Donetsk airport. As if the easiest operation in a way to achieve "victory." But a dead end strategically. This will absorb some of the forces of the ATO to ensure the corridor. And the Donetsk DPR garrison will be involved in battles. Before that, they behaved passively in relation to the punishers of the ATO. And this is from 2 to 5 thousands of fighters. There is a sweep of the regional Interior Ministry (militia).


      Read more here:
      http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/2375-obzor-boevoy-situacii-za-1-iyulya.htm
      l
    23. +4
      1 July 2014 19: 06
      Both RIA Novosti and Interfax, about other agencies, such as RBC - and I do not say, very often broadcast disinformation from UrcoSMI.

      More reliable and more timely information is here:
      https://vk.com/icorpus
      http://voicesevas.ru/
      http://rusvesna.su/
    24. +1
      1 July 2014 19: 12
      Is the whole air traffic police general captured? Feel free .... Here are just the flowers on the graves of all the same that ordinary, that generals.
      1. +2
        1 July 2014 19: 24
        Well, in theory, the general should command the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the whole region. That's just the cops were in fact quite pro-Russian, and even Avakov somehow recognized this. And it turns out there were also special forces from Kuev. They say that there are Falcon fighters there, and it seems that not everyone in Donetsk has been disarmed yet. But to take the police department, for any it is necessary, as well as all the remaining parts, at the same time, they will be secured.
    25. +1
      1 July 2014 19: 14
      Where are ours, who are theirs, who will win? One thing is certain that from the Ukrainian military unit, which is quite peacefully based in the capital of a foreign state, they shoot at the bus with the servicemen's parents. And the Donetsk people calmly swallowed it. Now they figure out who will "live" in their ATC. Then what does the independence referendum have to do with it? "Fog, fog, solid shroud ..."
    26. +5
      1 July 2014 19: 19
      Quote: dr.Bo
      Quote: roman72-452
      If this is true, then there is probably no single militia in the Donbass. Sadly.

      Do not succumb to provocations! Everything needs to be checked 1000 times!

      That's right, but the price of our posts here is not as high as the lives of those who are fighting there, the fact is that we do not have enough information.
    27. +1
      1 July 2014 19: 20
      Ukrainians said that the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs was vacated, although now it’s not clear they kept him or freed him. Anyway, how many of them are there at all? ... smile

      MOSCOW, July 1 - RIA Novosti. The press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine announced the release of the Donetsk Internal Affairs Directorate. This information was also confirmed by Interior Minister Arsen Avakov.
      "The Department of Internal Affairs in Donetsk has been repulsed. Pozhidaev is alive. 4 wounded, one dead," he wrote on his Facebook page.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140701/1014322326.html#ixzz36EL2ZZzh
      1. 0
        1 July 2014 20: 43
        DONETSK, July 1 - RIA Novosti. The militias vacated the building of the Internal Affairs Directorate, which was seized on Tuesday in Donetsk by armed associates from one of the field commanders Igor Bezler, nicknamed "The Bes", Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic Alexander Boroday, who arrived at the scene, told reporters.

        The clashes at the regional department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs occurred on Tuesday afternoon. The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine stated that policemen headed by the general barricaded themselves in the building, who organized the defense and entered the battle. DPR militias consider policemen to be hostages, who were captured by Bezler’s people. The Ministry of Internal Affairs reported seven wounded law enforcement officers.

        "A certain group, called the" Bes "group, decided to take over the Internal Affairs Directorate. Why - it is not clear, it was already under our control," Boroday said. "All this qualifies as a provocation. There are other questions to the activities of Bezler," added the Prime Minister of the DPR.

        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140701/1014327423.html#ixzz36EvjXaZI

        Something is starting to clear up. And it does not please at such a difficult moment.
    28. +2
      1 July 2014 19: 31
      Here are the answers to the questions why Russia does not help the troops .. There’s no one .. the commander among the leadership, roughly speaking there is no central authority .. Local authorities too .. Intelligence agencies of the counterintelligence are not formed, internal guards that would stop sabotage, sabotage, speculation, no .. This is not a war for not dependence, but a game of war .. people die because of games .. Putin does not give the army command to enter Donbass, he is afraid of being substituted by those who ask him about it .. I understand , many will not like the comment .. But I'm shocked by this news ..
      1. 0
        2 July 2014 06: 26
        Here are the answers to questions why Russia does not help troops .. There’s no one ..mutak among the leadership, roughly speaking there is no central authority .. Local authorities, too ..
        Well, if only Russia had helped the troops on time, the appointed administration would simply have acted and there would be a relative order.
    29. DPZ
      0
      1 July 2014 19: 43
      sucks it, the enemy surrounds, but they butt together.
    30. C2H5OH
      -1
      1 July 2014 19: 54
      Quote: azbukin77
      In Moscow, the street where the Ukrainian Embassy is located is renamed SMERSH Street!

      or to the street of the famine request
      1. C2H5OH
        +6
        1 July 2014 20: 29
        and you can still give brushes toilets to the Ukrainian Embassy
        1. +1
          1 July 2014 20: 55
          just remembered this scum, where he disappeared, really gutted on brushes?
          1. C2H5OH
            0
            1 July 2014 21: 15
            yes ktozh knows her .... I already miss her ... I was an aunt laughing ...
    31. +1
      1 July 2014 20: 22
      Judging by the news in Donetsk, there are many tsrushny zaslantsy and they litter with "green candy wrappers" on all unstable parties ...... sowing fear and chaos.
    32. +3
      1 July 2014 20: 23
      I do not believe. What is the meaning? Capture the building of ATC. So what? Most likely a provocation. Traitors are everywhere. I’m afraid that Bevza will probably not find this. Why then arrange a provocation.
    33. +3
      1 July 2014 20: 48
      The Novaya Rus publication, citing Bezler himself, reports that policemen loyal to the Kiev government, led by General Konstantin Pozhidaev, were barricading themselves in the police department building and holding defenses - militiamen are trying to get them out of there. "At the same time, misinformation was launched that Alexander Borodai and other officials DNR declared our people (Bezler people) terrorists and ordered to destroy.
    34. +1
      1 July 2014 21: 18
      Quote: INFOLegioner
      ... According to preliminary data, the junta sent a special forces detachment "Falcon" to strengthen the protection of the Donetsk regional GU MVD ... "- this quote explains the movement and stirring around and among the cops.

      I do not understand the city of Donetsk, who is it in whose hands, who is in charge there? If there is a parliament of the Donetsk independent republic, then what is the Sokol detachment, subordinate to Kiev, doing in one of the main buildings of the city, which is the capital of the independent republic ??? request
    35. +1
      1 July 2014 21: 32
      The information turned out to be false, here is a refutation of http://voicesevas.ru/yugo-vostok/2378-postupila-dezinformaciya-o-predatelstve-so
      -storony-komandira-opolcheniya-donbassa.html
      Well, thank God.
    36. 0
      1 July 2014 21: 43
      Quote: Akulina
      That is why they did not poke their heads in - and asked to wait with the referendums - after all, they spoke Russian - it was not the time. Those who start such things in two days - people had to be prepared - subordination - from top to bottom must be unquestioning. After all, this is the ATO - just a gift to the Ukropov and American fascists ... The peaceful people were framed, the GDP was framed - it is now gnawed by all and sundry - "leaked, passed ...". Those who are now sitting at the checkpoints and paying for everything with their blood are puffing. And when I think that in Slavyansk, in broken houses, no one needs old people, without food, without water and medicines, they lie and wait for death .... I just want to howl from impotence. There are a hell of a lot of miners - hefty guys - and where are they all? .... Now in St. Petersburg we are assembling another "train" - the most necessary thing, how they will get there is unknown - and most importantly, who will get all this in the hands ...


      A month ago I wrote an article stating that all this uprising, according to my estimates, was organized by the CIA, using honest people in the dark .... But the admins’s article was hacked off .... It seemed like a traitor to the militias. But what does one have to do with logic and experience ...

      And now we see how it crawled ... And maybe Kiev’s rights are claiming that their people are there - and the same BES .. At the very beginning it was somehow muddy, and his representation as a colonel of the Russian army, and his dark affairs as director of a cemetery, and past lieutenant colonel of the SBU .....

      My article here, to whom it is interesting, was written almost a month ago, it’s just big and I don’t see any sense in typing here - by the way the link doesn’t work.
    37. +2
      1 July 2014 21: 45
      Throw part - 1. The departure of the Crimea was certainly a blow for Ukraine, but not fatal and predictable .... At the same time, it was not possible to organize a krovushka - the Russian special services counteracted all attempts. It was for this that the leadership of the US intelligence was removed, and not because they slammed ... the GRU and the FSB outplayed the NSA. And then a strange uprising begins in the Southeast ....
      My opinion is solely based on observations and “cold” thoughts, where there is no place for emotions. The movement is somehow strange.
      Let's look at the hypothesis that the uprising and movement in the Southeast organized ... the CIA .... Then a lot falls into place.
      And the inexplicable movements of Akhmetov, who initially believed that having supported and, in fact, organized a federalist movement, he would have a bargain with Kiev. Like, I stop this mess and in return you don’t touch my enterprises and protect from Beni, who is already pulling his hands here .... Hence the passivity of hundreds of thousands of metallurgists and miners ....
      Governments are being formed in Donetsk and Lugansk, which instead of dealing with specific issues start squabbles and squabbles. And in order to “adjust” the South-East to take a decision, Strelkov’s detachment is invited there, which arrives from the Crimea and takes a position in Slavyansk ... And falls into a siege, practically not supported by either Donetsk or Lugansk ...
      To stir up the people, the West is organizing a massacre in Odessa and Mariupol. Everything is video-documented, and the strangest thing is that YouTube doesn’t delete these videos unlike others. Like, look, enjoy, recharge with hatred ...
      1. s1н7т
        +1
        1 July 2014 23: 41
        Quote: Santor
        The GRU and the FSB outplayed the NSA.

        On what field could the GRU outplay the NSA? Osnaz (an analogue of the NSA in the GRU, but brutally curtailed by Yeltsin-Serdyukov (remember the president’s name?) And not raising a shoigu (telling the president’s name?) Is not capable of this. The GRU and the NSA do not intersect in practice. And then, the NSA does not deal with operational work - there are enough other organizations in the US intelligence community (there are already 14 of them there, sort of). So here - just past. As for the games of big intelligence, then here, as in any creative process, no one will predict the result. It’s enough for the enemy to buy a joker, and the game I’ve gone the other way. So everything is possible. But you and I can only make assumptions - whatever you like, they are still based on the media and rumors, that is, on unreliable sources of information. And I, for one, believe that the DPR and The LPR is only the tip of the iceberg conceived by ours. Options 2: with direct and indirect interference. The task is to push NATO as far as possible (not to let it come closer, more precisely), to divide Ukraine into as many uncontrolled Kiev / Washington t territories oriented against the EU and NATO. And there are many options. Either the Union of People's Republics, or something like that. And then - winter, and there is no gas. Well, and so on. Although, of course, this is just my fantasy, also based on the media and rumors, like yours laughing drinks
    38. +6
      1 July 2014 21: 45
      2 part. I am a military man, I carefully studied the map, photographs of the area of ​​Slavyansk and its environs .... It is difficult to defend a city because of its extension and terrain features, but you can ........ But it is impossible to do this with the forces and means that Strelkov has. The city is practically open ... Each assault group with 2-3 tanks, armored vehicles and sappers can safely take the city, entering it simultaneously from different directions. But they don’t.
      I won’t believe that there’s no one to organize there, all the same the same schools finished. Recall Kramatorsk, which was quickly and famously occupied by the military at the very beginning. Do you still believe that the armored vehicles fled the city, frightened by swearing men and women? Occupation was not necessary at that moment. Puppeteers needed to equip a boiling cauldron, heat it to the point where Russia wants it or does not want it, it will simply have to get into it ...
      Everything is progressing - first mortars, then artillery, then six-inch howitzers, airstrikes, helicopters, Tulips, Grads, now they drove the Hurricanes and used phosphor bombs ...
      Provocations are being prepared in the rest of Ukraine - under the guise of militiamen or even specialists from the Russian GRU, carrying out terrorist attacks in the most crowded places and then moaning "Do not want to fight terrorists - here they come to you", and the Syrian version is also being prepared - a chemical attack near Slavyansk on the troops . The hints were already something there, the militias have ...
      They no longer know how to drag Russia into the war .... The whole Internet is filled with provocations - moans of raped, screams of those killed and those who have their throats cut, their hands reaching out to Russia in the last rush - "well *** what you have not got into this war yet, well, we are trying so hard !!!"
      Patriots of all stripes have already torn all sofas, jumping on them with impatience ... First, to see the parade of tanks in Kiev on 9 in May, now the aircraft over Ukraine, "where are our troops !!!!", "Putin betrayed, Putin leaked, atas him ..." ...
      This is the second aspect of the NSA operation. By arranging leaks, making Moscow clear to who is behind all this nonsense, they expect that in the event of failure to take military measures, Putin’s authority within the country will wobble and fall below the lowest baseboard. Loud-speaking heads such as Prokhanov, Zhirinovsky, Dugin will turn their backs on him, and it may be possible against this background to rock the country to an internal explosion. Adding here regular raids by the "right-wingers" on Russian territory.
      1. +1
        1 July 2014 22: 25
        Quote: Santor
        2 part. I am a military man, I carefully studied the map, photographs of the area of ​​Slavyansk and its environs ....

        can you enlighten why exactly Slavyansk, what is so important there and why is the main battle taking place there?
        1. +2
          1 July 2014 22: 35
          Quote: 290980
          can you enlighten why exactly Slavyansk, what is so important there and why is the main battle taking place there?

          One of the largest shale gas deposits in Europe + a strategic point in the Donetsk region. From Slavyansk, a road opens to any direction in the Donetsk region.
          1. 0
            1 July 2014 23: 35
            Quote: lonely
            Quote: 290980
            can you enlighten why exactly Slavyansk, what is so important there and why is the main battle taking place there?

            One of the largest shale gas deposits in Europe + a strategic point in the Donetsk region. From Slavyansk, a road opens to any direction in the Donetsk region.

            unconvincing, shale gas is also a fairy tale for users who do not understand, it was easier to bribe, bring down the standard of living, so that people themselves began to leave, not war.
            1. +1
              2 July 2014 00: 13
              Quote: 290980
              unconvincing, shale gas is also a fairy tale for users who do not understand, it was easier to bribe, bring down the standard of living, so that people themselves began to leave, not war.

              Well, a fairy tale, not a fairy tale, but Western companies were already prospecting there, even several wells were drilled. And as we know, unlike the former Soviet, Westerners do not throw money into the wind. They spend every dollar according to plan.
              1. +1
                2 July 2014 00: 24
                Quote: lonely
                They have every dollar spent according to plan.

                Yab told you how just recently, hundreds of millions of Americans literally let the wind go by investing in a deliberately dead-end enterprise ... but nizya)))
        2. 0
          2 July 2014 06: 14
          IMHO. Strelkov's Slavic group was previously the only combat-ready unit of the militia. Able not only to stand at roadblocks and burn tires when dill approaches. They could not only defend themselves, but also launch counterattacks, seizing neighboring settlements and cutting communications, creating militia units in occupied cities. That is why dill stomped around Slavyansk for so long, trying to take it and not having such an opportunity, were forced to look for workarounds for the movement and supply of their groups. Therefore, now Slavyansk, by and large, has become strategically not needed. And they are fighting for him on the basis of psychology, as a landmark reference point. Although I would rather take the Strelkovites to Donetsk and use them for counterattacks.
      2. -1
        2 July 2014 06: 06
        I am a military man, I carefully studied the map, photographs of the area of ​​Slavyansk and its environs .... It is difficult to defend a city because of its extension and terrain features, but you can ........ But it is impossible to do this with the forces and means that Strelkov has. The city is practically open ... Assault groups each with 2-3 tanks, armored vehicles and sappers can safely take the city, entering it simultaneously from different directions.


        I am not a military man. But I read a lot and varied about the battles in the city. Starting from Stalingrad to Aleppo. What you are talking about is the burp of Gromov's "paratrooper regiment" for Grozny. The assault teams you are talking about are not intended to storm cities, but solely to suppress nodes of resistance in urban settings. The SA gained good experience in using assault groups in the battles for German cities. But no where were these cities taken by assault groups alone. The reason is simple enough, the assault team can take a strong point, but cannot hold it. The defenders will not sit idly by, but will concentrate their assault groups against these assault groups and carry out successive counterattacks. To hold the territory of the city, you need to cross it with strong checkpoints, protect the main communications with mobile patrols in order to stop the movement and supply of the defenders and be able to provide assistance to stationary checkpoints in attacks. This is the only way to localize the defenders in their strongholds and then destroy them without a permanent front line. Moreover, this requires a very large advantage of the attackers. It was into such a bloody puddle that the federals in Grozny fell into the New Year's battles. They quickly took up their assigned positions within the city, but then came under concentrated counter-attacks by the militants in conditions of interruption of communications (see the death of the Maikop brigade). This can be counterbalanced by the lengthy battles for Sirte in Libya, when the city was bitten off. The fighting in Syria is also characteristic - where the Syrians and Hezbollah are concentrating overwhelming forces and conducting lengthy operations to capture fortified cities. The dill, even near Slavyansk, apparently do not have sufficient strength for such actions. That is why they are stupidly destroying infrastructure and civilians. And that is precisely why there are chances of taking the cities of the southeast with a minimum of sane defense.
        1. 0
          2 July 2014 10: 54
          Quote: alicante11
          apparently

          Apparently it is not a fact and a complete statement. Maybe people are not 1k 5, but the fact that full firepower is on their side is not even worth talking about.
          1. 0
            2 July 2014 11: 31
            Well, the opposite opinion is also not a fact. The question is, which is more likely. Firepower - yes, it’s good, only in urban areas, but with the dill skills to adjust the fire with sufficient speed - this advantage is very difficult to realize. So far, dill sell it very weakly. In the open, it is better, see the attack of the militia ersatz tanks at a checkpoint near Kramatorsk. But also not ice, the cars were able to get home.
        2. s1н7т
          0
          2 July 2014 18: 53
          Quote: alicante11
          What you are talking about is the burp of Gromov's "paratrooper regiment" for Grozny. The assault teams you are talking about are not intended to storm cities, but exclusively to suppress nodes of resistance in urban settings

          About "belching" - you are cool, comrade. non-military! laughing Read Busv, he probably is on the Web. Maybe you will not be so stupidly categorical.
          Assault groups, of course, do not occupy the city. They are occupied by infantry and other troops following them, ensuring the creation and retention of the necessary infrastructure. If you studied urban fighting in the Second World War, then you should understand how many nonsense heaped up in Grozny, but these were the days of the triumph of democracy, when it was not the brain and the military that taxied. In this country at that time, many brains were completely lost.
          But without assault groups - no way, excuse me. ABC s!
          1. 0
            3 July 2014 01: 59
            About "belching" - you are cool, comrade. non-military! laughing Read the BUSV, it is probably on the Web. Maybe you won't be so stupidly categorical.


            The fence is also written, and there ... firewood. The army always prepares for the past war ...

            Assault groups, of course, do not occupy the city. They are occupied by infantry and other troops following them, ensuring the creation and retention of the necessary infrastructure.


            Captain obvious? Didn't I say the same thing?

            If you studied urban fighting in the Second World War, then you should understand how many nonsense heaped up in Grozny, but these were the days of the triumph of democracy, when it was not the brain and the military that taxied.


            Again, I talked about this. Although, I wonder what you mean by "nonsense". Judging by your critical comment, not what I am.

            But without assault groups - no way, excuse me. ABC s!


            And where did I say that it is possible without them, sir? Or just to write something?

            I said that dill does not have the strength to control large settlements. If you remember, they have repeatedly entered the same Kramatorsk. But ... where are they now? By the way, the development of the situation only confirms my opinion. Well, dill is not torn to take the city. Continue the policy of distant blockade. From which the population suffers, not the militias.
      3. s1н7т
        0
        2 July 2014 18: 26
        Quote: Santor
        This is the second aspect of the NSA operation.

        SW Santor, read at least Wikipedia or something - the NSA does not conduct operations! It provides information to those involved in this. It seems, you say, a military man, but you don’t know. Or, conversely, do you know more than you can? laughing hi
        And the rest - yes, I agree, we would like to, Slavyansk would have been rolled out for a long time.
        1. 0
          3 July 2014 01: 59
          Wishlist has not grown.
    39. +1
      1 July 2014 23: 17
      I don’t know how it will end. But one thing is clear: it is necessary to exterminate the fifth column by all means. And in the LC, the DNI. And in Russia. Do not take prisoners.
    40. AleXnaps
      -11
      1 July 2014 23: 20
      misunderstandings in Donetsk
    41. Drunya
      0
      1 July 2014 23: 21
      GDP asked them: wait with your LPR and DPR referendum, no
      WE ourselves with a mustache. and EMU then from the all side you can see what kind of fog there is.
      some in white shirts just sit and don’t get out of Moscow,
      while others "rot" in the trenches.
      sorry for the militias, protect rear rats on their mind power и loot.
    42. Leprechaun
      +2
      1 July 2014 23: 33
      Quote: Captain45
      I do not understand the city of Donetsk, who is it in whose hands, who is in charge there? If there is a parliament of the Donetsk independent republic, then what is the Sokol detachment, subordinate to Kiev, doing in one of the main buildings of the city, which is the capital of the independent republic ???

      DNR also transfers taxes to Kiev from the words of Gubarev
    43. Leprechaun
      +1
      1 July 2014 23: 42
      Quote: Dryuya
      GDP asked them: wait with your LPR and DPR referendum, no
      WE ourselves with a mustache. and EMU then from the all side you can see what kind of fog there is.
      some in white shirts just sit and don’t get out of Moscow,
      while others "rot" in the trenches.
      sorry for the militias, they protect the rear rats in whose mind power and loot.

      It should complement one another without trips to Moscow and negotiations either, the leaders should organize, and the soldiers should fight. Each has its own mission and leaders are also always under fire and can die at any time at the hands of killers. And in the LPR, the situation is much clearer, as I understand it, for a long time military units and police departments have taken control. Therefore, it is likely that South Ossetia recognized the LPR. But in the DNI, some sort of mess of military units in the capital is under the control of Kiev, the GUVD is subordinate to Kiev, etc. what does the leadership of the DPR KhZ
    44. +4
      1 July 2014 23: 50
      Quote: Dryuya
      GDP asked them: wait with your LPR and DPR referendum, no
      WE ourselves with a mustache. and EMU then from the all side you can see what kind of fog there is.
      some in white shirts just sit and don’t get out of Moscow,
      while others "rot" in the trenches.
      That's right. But wait, would there be a referendum in that case? Perhaps the Nazis would now go to Donetsk and scream that they always yell-lard to Ukraine ....... by the way no one knows what kind of strange word this is-Ukraine ??? I wonder why not Kievan Rus ?? Or when this territory was under the Polish Catholics, did they reorder it so that even the spirit of Russia was not close ?? That's what rabid Russophobia does - as a result, greedy Ukrainians-Russophobes occupied Kievan Rus, they are state hirelings and they are fascists ..... THERE IS WHERE THE DEVIATION FROM ITS PRINCIPAL SOURCES!
    45. +1
      2 July 2014 00: 08
      Quote: portoc65
      It’s a pity Igor StrelkoV is not in Donetsk, he would really put things in order


      Igor Strelkov, as an old Russian officer, is not ready to participate in a squabble for power!
    46. +1
      2 July 2014 00: 35
      Quote: juborg
      Among the Donetsk cops, there are no honest ones.

      why are you so all under one comb? .. People are different everywhere. And the police is a mirror of the people, as we used to say in Soviet times.

      P.S. He himself served the working people for several years in one of the Donetsk police department in the "troubled 90s". We had both decent and not very ...
    47. +4
      2 July 2014 00: 46
      If this is the case, then the seizure of the ATC by the Bes militias is a clear provocation that pours water on the Kiev mill

      The organization of such provocations is a characteristic feature of dill. At the very beginning of the events, they were preparing units in Russian equipment to simulate an attack on one of the airfields. But Russia failed the junta without entering the war. But the idea remained. It is possible that pravoseki or Natsik, under the guise of a militia, and started this confusion.
    48. +3
      2 July 2014 01: 07
      To all of the above - how to understand the authorities of the LPR and DPR, when during the entire period of their existence the airports of the capitals were not taken, moreover, they served as strongholds of ukrarmia in fact in the very heart of these republics, and now they have waited for the landing of dill on these sites! Inevitably, you will remember the words (unpopular with many) V.I. Lenin: "Any revolution is worth something only if it knows how to defend itself!"
    49. 0
      2 July 2014 07: 05
      Well, with II Strelkov, everything is clear, he and his fighters are real warriors, but what is going on in Donetsk: well, just like in the movie "Green Van", here you have both white and red and Petliurists in one word a continuous striped pattern. And where there is no good order, there is no need to wait, where "portfolios" are divided, there will soon begin to divide "green American rubles", because it is easier for the junta to bribe than to win (the example of Saddam Hussein's Iraq)!
    50. 0
      2 July 2014 17: 40
      For dill, as always, everything is through the ass ... People (which none) were sent to certain death, such as help! hold on guys! They themselves were thrown at .. (however, as always ..), and reported that "The demon took."
      It is strange and new tactics that old specialists were allowed to fish?

      Usually they scream out loud that all cities take without loss, only with the wounded ...

      Really changed the record, the campaign itself is tired ...
    51. +1
      2 July 2014 18: 46
      Quote: alicante11
      But nowhere were these cities taken by assault groups alone. The reason is quite simple: the assault group can take a strong point, but cannot hold it. The defenders will not sit idly by, but will concentrate their assault groups against these assault groups and carry out successive counterattacks.

      for this there are airborne brigades, with artillery and mine divisions, air defense platoons in each company.

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