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Correspondence between Koval and Yarema about military riot. Real hack mail or fake?

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Representatives of one of the hacker groups claim that they managed to get access to the correspondence between the Acting Defense Minister of Ukraine, Mikhail Koval, who became famous thanks to statements about the need to use filtration camps in Ukraine, and Prosecutor General Vitaly Yarema. The correspondence dates back to 20 June 2014 of the year, and it deals with a kind of "captain's revolution" (military rebellion). Correspondence publishes TC site LifeNews.


The correspondence is given with the addresses of mailboxes, which, according to hackers, belong to the above-mentioned Ukrainian officials.

One of the parts of the correspondence is as follows.

Koval: Have you heard about the troops?

Yarema: Captain's revolution? Yes, in the know ... What do you think?

Koval: Yes, there are a couple of thoughts. With the table we decide as usual. With the "captains" will have to act harder.

Yarema: Dismiss?

Koval: There are other ideas. Mostly with relatives ... well, you know where. Declare the enemies of Ukraine, the separatists, etc.


From the other part:

Koval:

Do not run. Connect the enthusiastic mu..kov. They are now the guard. So let them now guard the officer's whores and their choices ... so that the boots do not rock the boat.

Yarema:

The main thing is that the passports, as the "Golden Eagle", did not run.

Koval:

No, they are confused. Will not be able to organize. The soldier will not follow them anyway. Promise demob for a couple of months earlier. Weapon we will withdraw Plus, we will work as usual on families. It'll be enough.


Correspondence between Koval and Yarema about military riot. Real hack mail or fake?


The correspondence is certainly interesting, but on the published screen from the allegedly hacked page, the time zone is confused: GMT + 03: 00, which does not seem to correspond to Kiev. Or does this time zone refer to the one in which the pages of Ukrainian officials were hacked? Yes, and correspondence via Google mail in this context also looks a bit strange.

If this information is true, then it is another proof that the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies are not doing well with discipline. If this is a “fake”, then such “fakes” from scratch are definitely not born.
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  1. portoc65
    portoc65 1 July 2014 17: 39
    +24
    Dill carefully hide everything .. they still have personnel losses of 147 people ... If everything crawls out, there will be 3 Maidan
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 1 July 2014 17: 43
      +10
      Quote: portoc65
      Dill carefully hide everything .. they still have personnel losses of 147 people ... If everything crawls out, there will be 3 Maidan

      Many now in dill by means of neta and satellite tv see this but they were washed with so much Motsk that they are simply afraid to believe it!
      1. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 1 July 2014 17: 49
        +22
        Not to be afraid of. They just don't believe us. Because they DO NOT WANT to believe.
        1. rasputin17
          rasputin17 1 July 2014 17: 53
          +12
          This is their choice! Do not want to believe us and do not! But Mlyn brains then include at least sometimes it is necessary and common sense !!! After all, their sechas as the last cattle before the massacre they sell and have whatever they want cret.ins are pathological ???
        2. Comrade Bender
          Comrade Bender 1 July 2014 18: 21
          +6
          That's exactly what they do not want. Apparently they are so ashamed of what has been done that it is much more convenient to perceive Russia as an aggressor for the complacency of unrealized self-awareness and significance. And jerks with purged brains are simply not able to adequately perceive reality due to the lack of an informative historical base.
        3. armageddon
          armageddon 1 July 2014 18: 28
          0
          Hmm ... Than drowning in my opinion is easier to bury ... Especially in the presence of heavy equipment !!! They would make porridge from corpses ... !!!
        4. Alekseev
          Alekseev 1 July 2014 19: 05
          +4
          Quote: nahalenok911
          They just don't believe us. Because they DO NOT WANT to believe.

          That's right!
          Many (But not all) they don’t want to believe us ... they didn’t want to live and work with us (we all took them to Moscow yes ), they didn’t want to cooperate with us within the framework of a single TS, they are advanced gay Europeans, they don’t want to admit that they themselves are to blame for all their troubles, someone like moskali and Putin is always hindering them.
          And here is a bloody crazy result.
        5. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 1 July 2014 19: 22
          +1
          Quote: nahalenok911
          Not to be afraid of. They just don't believe us. Because they DO NOT WANT to believe.

          Voluntarily or involuntarily, you expressed the essence of the problem of our informational component of countering the junta, countering its rabid propaganda. The human psyche is arranged in such a way that he is inclined to believe in what he would like to believe, in what he was prepared to believe. Professionals should be concerned with how to submit information, not "commissioners" ex officio. Is it fake or not? - There is an intelligence department - and it will figure it out. The information in the article mobilizes the families of the officers to protest against the junta's policies. And that's enough! Who wants to - on the couch will doubt ...
      2. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx 1 July 2014 21: 49
        0
        Sorry to be washed? Something did not understand reading.
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    3. Момент
      Момент 1 July 2014 17: 50
      +3
      As the practice of recent months shows, the Ukrainian junta is constantly listened to, which is why it is probably true.
      And the fact that their army is not doing well is already clear from the words of the militia.
      1. kashtak
        kashtak 1 July 2014 18: 35
        +1
        maybe not everything is good, but maybe not so bad as to say. the fact that the army does not support Bandera has been known for a long time, and the fact that the Maidan is dissatisfied with this is also not a secret, so the article is more likely true than not.
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    4. asar
      asar 1 July 2014 17: 51
      +4
      For God's sake! At least the XNUMXth Maidan! "Chickens are piging, pigs are rushing, dill is ripening"! And there, you see, and Nuland "arrive in time" with "drug cookies"! Have fun, dill! And eat more peas! In winter it will come in handy!
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 1 July 2014 17: 52
      +13
      Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community took patronage over punitive units in the Donbass


      Pictured Filatov, Eleanor Groisman and Korban in Jerusalem

      Eleonora Groisman and "Kiev Jewish" report on the feasible help of the Jews in the final solution of the Donetsk issue:

      "The Dnepropetrovsk Jewish religious community and parishioners of the Central Synagogue" Golden Rose "provide all-round assistance to the servicemen fighting against terrorists and defending the unity and integrity of Ukraine, and call on the Jews of Dnepropetrovsk to actively help them in this. ...
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        1. ivanfly
          ivanfly 1 July 2014 18: 33
          +9
          And what is there to be surprised at, this is the strategy of Judaism, - "The Orthodox must kill the Orthodox." This is their main goal.
          1. asar
            asar 1 July 2014 21: 02
            0
            But to hell with them! And the middle finger from the fist! In short - you go ...
          2. sovetskyturist
            sovetskyturist 1 July 2014 21: 07
            0
            i poka u nix eto efektivno polutsaetsa
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 1 July 2014 18: 44
          +6
          Quote: Mama_Cholli
          Jews patronize punishers

          And after that they yell about a certain Holocaust. This is in the order of things.
        3. samoletil18
          samoletil18 1 July 2014 19: 04
          +6
          After this, how not to listen to the voices denying the Holocaust!
        4. Akvadra
          Akvadra 1 July 2014 19: 54
          +1
          Quote: Mama_Cholli
          Well well! Jews patronize punishers killing civilians ...
          Apparently they had a good idea of ​​what they would get from the United States. "Good deal", you will not say anything. In the place of Germany, it is necessary to stop sponsoring these u_b_people, otherwise the annual payments to the descendants of the "victims of the Holocaust" apparently completely relaxed the zh_ids.

          Oh well! Everyone knows their bounties! These will donate! Do not mix my slippers. Well, joke!
        5. sovetskyturist
          sovetskyturist 1 July 2014 21: 05
          0
          nemnogo dopolnenija
      2. avg
        avg 1 July 2014 18: 12
        +7
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community took patronage over punitive units in the Donbass

        Banderlogs earn a loyal attitude. But, as has happened more than once, then they will bitterly cry. The life of the Jews does not teach anything.
        1. sovetskyturist
          sovetskyturist 1 July 2014 21: 25
          +1
          the banderlogs of everything deprived of miserable khalui and Hasidim women ... and the whole Ukrainian today. the public too. fascists always were holopapmi for big money - there was Hitler too. Dnepropetrovsk build Khazaria 2.0-Svyatoslav
        2. ermolai
          ermolai 2 July 2014 04: 39
          0
          probably teaches Jews, there are no women
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      4. prio124
        prio124 1 July 2014 18: 15
        +7
        I see 33 years old Germany, but they say they do not enter the same water twice?
      5. azbukin77
        azbukin77 1 July 2014 18: 23
        +7
        In Judah, they were selling them what Christ to sell to their homeland to the Nazis!
      6. HAM
        HAM 1 July 2014 19: 04
        +1
        Rather, banderlogs will come to them, in advance they are trying to bargain for themselves a rope instead of lead.
      7. asar
        asar 1 July 2014 19: 16
        +2
        WELL AND STSUKI! BEEFS! LITTLE YOU WERE FASCISTS! MEMORY YOU SHORT, HALF!
      8. Lukich
        Lukich 1 July 2014 20: 06
        +6
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Eleonora Groisman and "Kiev Jewish" report on the feasible help of the Jews in the final solution of the Donetsk issue:

        But then what about it?
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 July 2014 23: 11
          -1
          Quote: Lukich
          Quote: Sith Lord
          Eleonora Groisman and "Kiev Jewish" report on the feasible help of the Jews in the final solution of the Donetsk issue:

          But then what about it?
          MLk]

          and in no way, no one did not conduct a pulse of de nur on him - not even that level of personality
      9. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 1 July 2014 21: 03
        +1
        Appeal of the famous Jewish anti-fascist Eduard Khodos to the Slay brothers of Ukraine and Russia:
        "Hit the fascist Chabad Dneprozhido.vsk not Stalingrad!"
      10. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 1 July 2014 21: 18
        0
        Eduard HODOS - Appeal to the brothers Slavs and co-religionists Hebrews. Eduard HODOS - About Zhidobandera - Right SECTOR and KOLOMOYSKY .... Dmitry Yarosh moved to Dnepropetrovsk. Eduard HODOS - Appeal to ..........
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    6. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 1 July 2014 17: 58
      +2
      As a matter of fact, RUSSIAN TV helps to see the light in Ukraine, the Internet is also full of information, so soon such a buzz from these za.sr.s.a.s.ev.ev will rise that they don’t know where they will run, their National Guard is really wet with bundles As the military commander is in shock, the warriors are in shock who may already be skiing, the rest will soon turn their trunks against the barrier of the troops themselves, I think the GRU will correct them at the right time and will show the way! laughing
    7. 222222
      222222 1 July 2014 18: 06
      +4
      Standard time zone: UTC / GMT +2 hours.
      Summer time: +1 hour
      Current GMT deviation from time: UTC / GMT 3 h.
      http://24timezones.com/ru_vremia/kyiv_mestnoe_vremia.php
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 1 July 2014 18: 49
        +1
        Quote: 222222
        Current GMT deviation from time: UTC / GMT 3 h.

        Quote: article
        ... the time zone is embarrassing: GMT + 03: 00, which seems to not correspond to Kiev ...

        And that is absolutely true. Now in Kiev and Kharkov, an hour less than in Moscow. So the time in the screen is fully consistent.
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    9. Stalker
      Stalker 1 July 2014 18: 20
      +6
      Dill carefully hide everything ..

      And this is for reflection the Kiev junta, a question for Donbass and its answer ... am
    10. Giant thought
      Giant thought 1 July 2014 18: 37
      +1
      The earth begins to burn under the feet of the fascist elite of Ukraine. This is just the beginning. Soon they will begin to dump over the hill in a quiet manner, like Kolomoisky, he was the first to sense that the fried smell.
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    12. tank64rus
      tank64rus 1 July 2014 19: 20
      +1
      And here simple calculations will help. 15 coffins of army cargo 200 came to Uzhgorod. In total there are 140 thousand people. Now we will make a simple calculation. mobilization is universal and they grab all who did not escape. We get that the losses for that period are about 5 thousand. Now just add the bandits we get plus 500. Since this is all you can roughly use with numbers from 4.5 to 5,5 thousand. The truth will be near.
  2. Rusik.S
    Rusik.S 1 July 2014 17: 41
    +6
    If it’s fake, then you can still use it. It’s necessary that the army saw it soon
    1. nahalenok911
      nahalenok911 1 July 2014 17: 57
      +2
      Quote: Rusik.S
      If it’s fake, then you can still use it. It’s necessary that the army saw it soon

      Truth implies decency, which excludes the use of fakes for Victory. And this is the problem, as in everyday life. Only in the same life, when a battle is won, are liars losing the war. God and Russia are with us. And if True in Russia, then it will win. And we will help.
      1. Rusik.S
        Rusik.S 1 July 2014 18: 17
        +1
        That's just one "truth" you can't fight much.
        1. nahalenok911
          nahalenok911 1 July 2014 18: 28
          +3
          Yes, but you don’t have to become like that. Otherwise, the Truth is refracted and becomes Crooked. In this case, the meaning of the struggle is lost. And so I sometimes want to lie to win! But this temptation must be fought, because Demons do not sleep ...
  3. roman72-452
    roman72-452 1 July 2014 17: 41
    +27
    There is definitely nothing good in the Ukrainian army, except that the "ideological" right sector suffers difficulties with better equipment, and ordinary reservists who have visited the front and looked at everything with their own eyes do not want to die for Poroshenko.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 1 July 2014 17: 56
      +7
      Alice is walking
      cookie sweets
      Thanks to the State Department, this is a pill !!))))
  4. rasputin17
    rasputin17 1 July 2014 17: 41
    +3
    Even if this is fake, then the real situation is not so different from it !!!
  5. staryivoin
    staryivoin 1 July 2014 17: 42
    +2
    The best place to find out if this correspondence is true is the bench for war criminals at the military tribunal. Excellent attitude of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine to their subordinates !!! And especially to their families. Mr. Himmler is "resting"!
  6. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 1 July 2014 17: 42
    +4
    This is propaganda, the same as screams. And Putin leaked all Putin against the Russians, etc. And this correspondence is the flip side of propaganda and information war. Even if this is a fake, it still brings to the minds of the Ukrainian side, and suddenly not a fake, but suddenly the truth. the officers will think on the one hand, and the jumpers will run screaming among the officers of Ukraine full of traitors and you understand the consequences. Everyone does not believe everyone.
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  8. aleksandrs95
    aleksandrs95 1 July 2014 17: 42
    +1
    all may not be idiots, but since smart people are afraid to raise their heads and organize themselves.
  9. Yaks
    Yaks 1 July 2014 17: 42
    +1
    A strange moment ..- why in Russian ....?
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 1 July 2014 17: 46
      +3
      they all communicate with each other in Russian and from the stands in Khokhlyatsky ..
    2. Orik
      Orik 1 July 2014 23: 09
      0
      Quote: yaks
      A strange moment ..- why in Russian ....?

      83% of requests in the Ukrainian Internet are in Russian, it’s difficult to flick them into the camera, but they speak Russian.
  10. jovanni
    jovanni 1 July 2014 17: 43
    0
    Most likely - nonsense.
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 1 July 2014 17: 53
      +6
      I hate lying in people.

      It is different for everyone,

      Very skillful or idle

      And unexpected - like a knife. I hate lying in people.

      From a lie to a betrayal of half a step.

      Once a sword solved everything.

      And now the old style is worthless.
  11. Koresh
    Koresh 1 July 2014 17: 45
    +4
    Fake is not a fake, but the army does not have a real commander or leader to raise an army against the junta.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 1 July 2014 17: 50
      +2
      Quote: Koresh
      Fake is not a fake, but the army does not have a real commander or leader to raise an army against the junta.

      Just leaders there ran over, with the letter "P".
      1. Koresh
        Koresh 1 July 2014 18: 06
        +3
        Everyone thinks only about their own skin and, as it were, to plunder more money in their pockets. We have no people of honor in uniform.
        1. thrower
          thrower 2 July 2014 00: 03
          +1
          The army in Ukraine was killed consciously, it was not needed. 23 of the year the army was a place of storage of things that can be sold. The best rank is the ensign, the best position is the beginning. warehouse.
  12. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 1 July 2014 17: 45
    +1
    Quote: Rusik.S
    If it’s fake, then you can still use it. It’s necessary that the army saw it soon

    This must be shown to the jumping maydanuty, the reaction "there are traitors among us" will be stronger. They will gallop off to look for the fifth column among their own.
  13. Number 17
    Number 17 1 July 2014 17: 47
    +3
    Urgent info. A trusted source said that in the Lugansk region, two hundred bodies of young people were raised from the bottom of the lake. Traces of violent death are present. Stones tied to the legs. Many without clothes. Look like conscripts or contractors. The militia of Lugansk is not involved in the death of these people. There were officers in place. Detected by a suspicious smell, local residents. I repeat the source is very reliable will not lie. The only thing I did not know about the exact date of this find. The place is called blue lakes. He also said that among the things of those killed, coins from Poland and other European countries are often found. This is most likely he was talking about the mercenaries he came across. In conclusion, he said that it will not be shown on TV and the Internet.
    1. atalef
      atalef 1 July 2014 17: 57
      +1
      Quote: 17 number
      Urgent info. A trusted source said that in the Lugansk region, two hundred bodies of young people were raised from the bottom of the lake. Traces of violent death are present. Stones tied to the legs. Many without clothes. Look like conscripts or contractors. The militia of Lugansk is not involved in the death of these people. There were officers in place. Detected by a suspicious smell, local residents. I repeat the source is very reliable will not lie. The only thing I did not know about the exact date of this find. The place is called blue lakes. He also said that among the things of those killed, coins from Poland and other European countries are often found. This is most likely he was talking about the mercenaries he came across. In conclusion, he said that it will not be shown on TV and the Internet.

      Finely reliable, but this reliable source will tell you which coins in Poland?
      1. Number 17
        Number 17 1 July 2014 18: 08
        +1
        As for coins, he spoke generally about mercenaries who take part in the atom. It is not Ukrainia that scares him more, namely the mercenaries of which are very many among those killed. And what a joke question with coins? The main thing is that two hundred dead guys found. That's why they were killed and who and for what purpose.
        1. shuhartred
          shuhartred 1 July 2014 18: 31
          0
          Quote: number 17
          . And what a joke question with coins?

          The fact is that almost throughout Europe, coins are the same. These are euro cents.
          1. kashtak
            kashtak 1 July 2014 18: 44
            +2
            when a couple of years ago Poland passed there were mostly pennies and zloty
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          3. Number 17
            Number 17 1 July 2014 18: 57
            +3
            Is not a fact. When I was a student for each session I took with me two coins of 1 kopeck for happiness and good luck. Only for the exam. They took 4 courses with me. Maybe someone took with him as a memory or a talisman. The human soul is not predictable. It is useless to cling to coins here. Then, for example, I have a Bundeswehr field belt in constant use, but this does not indicate that I am German correctly. I will say one more thing. Understand correctly. This is a Russian resource of information. Most of you write from Russia. I write from Crimea. Ukraine was a very small state. I’ll say the name of the source, or how do we know each other, believe me who needs to be calculated by the moment. I even know who is standing at the checkpoints near Mariupol from the ukrarmia. And I’m already guessing who can conduct a mortar attack on residents of the South East. It is the officers. But first you need to check and then spread the info.
            1. thrower
              thrower 2 July 2014 00: 06
              0
              But first you need to check and then spread the info.

              Chat with a Traveler or Shrek.
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              2. http://shrek1.livejournal.com/
          4. Orik
            Orik 1 July 2014 23: 11
            +1
            Quote: shuhartred
            Quote: number 17
            . And what a joke question with coins?

            The fact is that almost throughout Europe, coins are the same. These are euro cents.

            Yes, but they have different pictures depending on the country of coinage ...
            1. shuhartred
              shuhartred 1 July 2014 23: 37
              0
              Quote: Orik
              Yes, but they have different pictures depending on the country of coinage ...

              Yes? Did not know. Thank you for the Old, although the sense of it, I do not go to Europe. I thought once one currency, then the same, as in the USSR. And they are lousy and they still give change in their currency. And what's the point then?
              1. Orik
                Orik 2 July 2014 11: 09
                0
                Each eurozone country issues standard coinage with its own obverse design. The reverse of the coins of all countries is the same.
                The same, but on the one hand.
      2. montemor
        montemor 1 July 2014 18: 54
        +2
        zlotuvki, small-groshi. Euros only accept, surrender give zloty, there is no free circulation yet
    2. rasputin17
      rasputin17 1 July 2014 18: 00
      +1
      I’m not too lazy, I’ll call, I need to check if this infa is true, then the fun will be very fun in front !!!
    3. s1н7т
      s1н7т 1 July 2014 18: 01
      0
      Quote: number 17
      among the things killed are often found coins from Poland and other European countries

      Not understood. Mercenaries, or what?
      1. Number 17
        Number 17 1 July 2014 18: 24
        +5
        Yes, mercenaries are often found among the dead. Understand the guy in his early years already looked a lot at a war that the Western world does not recognize. He talks about scary things. But at the same time he is fighting for his hometown. I believe him. He said that it was so it was. Understand and I can’t take it like this and give the name and surname.
    4. SeAl2014
      SeAl2014 1 July 2014 18: 08
      0
      About this already somewhere there was such infa.
  14. mig31
    mig31 1 July 2014 17: 49
    +1
    Nothing will save these hangers-on, only death will save the traitors of the people from shame during their lifetime ...
  15. waisson
    waisson 1 July 2014 17: 49
    +3
    -------------- am
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 1 July 2014 18: 03
      +3
      We will not forget this mug !!! The main thing is not to let her cut off over the hill and see upside down on an aspen !!
  16. vsoltan
    vsoltan 1 July 2014 17: 50
    +1
    It is historically and boringly aware that captains and generals do not do coups ... the first because of lack of opportunities, the second because of good positions ... colonels do coups! Who really want to grow up to generals, have the capabilities and have not lost their ambitions ... so the information is unlikely ... and even if so - well, so the spiders began to nibble each other, which is sad .... the predictable logic of events. ..
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 1 July 2014 18: 05
      +3
      Quote: vsoltan
      it is known that captains and generals do not do coups

      And what about Comrade Napoleon, for example? Already the commander was, in my opinion laughing
      1. vsoltan
        vsoltan 1 July 2014 18: 55
        0
        Ai, an isolated case, a haste, like the commanders of the 1918 year ... not a system ...
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 1 July 2014 23: 14
          0
          Not, if I rummage, I'll still find you laughing Have you studied the role of personality in history? Not the title / position the main thing - purely cap. approach, but history knows many attempts to depart, finally, from capitalism. The same Gaddafi, as comrades recall, the same Egypt, and many more!
    2. Wheel
      Wheel 1 July 2014 22: 16
      +1
      Quote: vsoltan
      It’s historically and boringly known that captains and generals don’t do coups ... the first because of the lack of opportunities, the second because of good positions

      But what about Captain Gaddafi?
  17. evilrussian
    evilrussian 1 July 2014 17: 52
    +2
    Fake or not fake, but it is written very truthfully and it seems. But I could be wrong.
    1. Iline
      Iline 1 July 2014 18: 11
      +2
      Look carefully at the expression on the face of this Koval. For him, Facebook and the Internet are obscene words, he may be offended.
      And so everything is true - the war is also going on in the information field.
  18. MSA
    MSA 1 July 2014 17: 54
    +1
    Kerdyk dill army ...
  19. parusnik
    parusnik 1 July 2014 17: 55
    +2
    They want to put things in order like fear ... But you won’t get it for a long time ..
  20. awg75
    awg75 1 July 2014 17: 55
    +1
    the truth will come out sooner or later. I am sure all this junta without exception the Ukrainian people very soon will hang up for eggs on local Christmas trees.
  21. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 1 July 2014 17: 56
    +1
    Quote: number 17
    Urgent info. A trusted source said that in the Lugansk region, two hundred bodies of young people were raised from the bottom of the lake. Traces of violent death are present. Stones tied to the legs. Many without clothes. Look like conscripts or contractors. The militia of Lugansk is not involved in the death of these people. There were officers in place. Detected by a suspicious smell, local residents. I repeat the source is very reliable will not lie. The only thing I did not know about the exact date of this find. The place is called blue lakes. He also said that among the things of those killed, coins from Poland and other European countries are often found. This is most likely he was talking about the mercenaries he came across. In conclusion, he said that it will not be shown on TV and the Internet.
    Infa from where. Which lake in which area who raised where the troupe was sent who did a medical examination. Another cheap fake.
    1. Number 17
      Number 17 1 July 2014 18: 18
      +2
      Source verified. I can’t tell you what his name is. He himself changes the SIM for the phone constantly. I asked him about the time. He said not long ago. You understand the person he is afraid to say a lot of superfluous on a cell. I just asked what's new in Lugansk. He talked about the Blue Lakes. When, recently. Even if infa is a bit old, the meaning is the same. In the ranks of Ato, not everyone wants to shoot at the people and the separatists. That is likely to fall to the bottom of ponds. Tell me, do you often see two hundred corpses of young boys which they take out of a pond with you? Fake or not. Just a fact about which they will be silent.
      1. atalef
        atalef 1 July 2014 18: 22
        -4
        Quote: 17 number
        Source verified. I can’t tell you what his name is. He himself changes the SIM for the phone constantly. I asked him about the time. He said not long ago. You understand the person he is afraid to say a lot of superfluous on a cell. I just asked what's new in Lugansk. He talked about the Blue Lakes. When, recently. Even if infa is a bit old, the meaning is the same. In the ranks of Ato, not everyone wants to shoot at the people and the separatists. That is likely to fall to the bottom of ponds. Tell me, do you often see two hundred corpses of young boys which they take out of a pond with you? Fake or not. Just a fact about which they will be silent.

        You know, I’m surprised from you, well, they threw a frank fake, well, it didn’t work, why persist in your stupidity
        1. Victor-M
          Victor-M 1 July 2014 19: 43
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          You know, I’m surprised from you, well, they threw a frank fake, well, it didn’t work, why persist in your stupidity


          Well, let fake, why are you so excited? Kiev Landrace desy pour without stopping and without reference to evidence, and that, they believe, the Landrace. laughing
        2. thrower
          thrower 2 July 2014 00: 10
          0
          The information was from Bolotov or Berezin, and also used military defense of Ukraine Gritsenko said, I’ll find a link.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTuTX54PsLk
  22. dr.Bo
    dr.Bo 1 July 2014 18: 01
    +2
    All these correspondence between ukrofashistami, are direct evidence for criminal proceedings! In the future, these cases are transferred to trebunals and these reptiles will answer!
    It is important that everything is preserved! And the time will come !!! I believe in it!!
  23. whitejohn12
    whitejohn12 1 July 2014 18: 04
    +2
    Not the army is not the motherland, not even at the top. Sales are all in the bud,
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 1 July 2014 18: 09
      +2
      And for that I won’t get drunk !!)))) lol
  24. kelevra
    kelevra 1 July 2014 18: 08
    +1
    In every joke, like lies, there is some truth, and sometimes they form the basis of truth! Therefore, judging by the general situation in Ukraine, such a scenario is quite possible!
  25. prio124
    prio124 1 July 2014 18: 09
    +2
    28.06.14/100/500 on TVXNUMX, the rector of the East European Institute of Psychiatry M.Reshetnikov spoke, he compared the brainwashed of Bendera, with paranoia, in principle he said a lot that they are not treated and you need to wait time ... I thought from myself that they should not be treated , and destroy ..., I recommend everyone to see. Well, about Stalin. He was a good dyat, he sent a bender to Kazakhstan (about XNUMX thousand people), but he could also drown him in the Dnieper. Or suddenly they are pyromancers, they themselves burned
  26. sever.56
    sever.56 1 July 2014 18: 09
    +2
    If this is true, then an indicator that the junta refers to the Ukrop army as cattle and consumables. It will be necessary, they will take the wives, children and parents of these officers hostage and drive them into concentration camps. They will stop at nothing. As the saying goes: - "The end justifies the means."
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 1 July 2014 18: 35
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      If this is true, then an indicator that the junta refers to the Ukrop army as cattle and consumables. It will be necessary, they will take the wives, children and parents of these officers hostage and drive them into concentration camps. They will stop at nothing. As the saying goes: - "The end justifies the means."

      They had good teachers. The Bolsheviks at one time did exactly the same with the officers who went over to their side (military specialists)
  27. Valkh
    Valkh 1 July 2014 18: 10
    +1
    Quote: rasputin17
    Alice is walking
    cookie sweets
    Thanks to the State Department, this is a pill !!))))


    Now give them waffles, waffles !!!! laughing
  28. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 1 July 2014 18: 11
    0
    Quote: c1n7
    Quote: number 17
    among the things killed are often found coins from Poland and other European countries

    Not understood. Mercenaries, or what?

    this is another fake you imagine what a couple of hundred corpses are about a couple of days lying in the water, you imagine how much time it takes for divers to pick up a couple of hundred corpses from the bottom, or there the whole battalion of the Ministry of Emergencies worked. I would write a couple of dozen, and hundreds are too much even for a fake.
  29. s1н7т
    s1н7т 1 July 2014 18: 12
    +1
    "The correspondence is certainly interesting, but on the published screen from the allegedly hacked page, the time zone is confusing: GMT + 03: 00, which does not seem to correspond to Kiev. Or is this time zone related to the one within which the pages of Ukrainian officials were hacked ?. .. "
    1 hour. the belt may not correspond to the fact;
    2. And this should not apply to the belt in which they broke it - the crowbar read the already written and dated messages, no?
    So option 2: either fake or not laughing
    In fact, anything can be expected from dill, alas! sad
    1. kashtak
      kashtak 1 July 2014 18: 58
      +1
      from whoever promises filtration camps and deportations, you can only wait for a discussion of such topics through technology, but if the fake time zone would be cleaned up and it doesn’t prove anything, no?
    2. The comment was deleted.
  30. meronem
    meronem 1 July 2014 18: 16
    +4
    5-7 days ago, I saw on the Ukrop site newsru.ua, which cannot be called pro-Russian, information that hundreds of corpses were found at the bottom of the lake in the Luhansk region. I then remembered the words of the militias that the ukrarmia was drowning corpses in reservoirs to hide the losses. I thought, I remember, that now these corpses will be called either the dead "Kadyrovtsy" and Russian mercenaries, or they will be presented as evidence of the villainy of the militia against civilians. Nevertheless, the news was very risky for the dill, and I was surprised that they publish it so boldly.
    But those who followed quickly got their bearings, and this news was removed almost immediately. Sorry, I did not have time to make a screenshot.
    Here is such information. I think that if all this is in fact, it cannot be reliably hidden, at least for a long time.
  31. kowalski
    kowalski 1 July 2014 18: 21
    +4
    How Israel has changed! Born in the USSR, I have always been indignant at the "intrigues of the Zionists" in the struggle of Arab patriots! Having matured, having matured strongly, I suddenly believed in the omnipotence of the Mossad (they snatched a Nazi from the bowels of Latin America). And, Suddenly ... "Jewish Kiev" reports on the feasible help of Jews in the final solution of the Donetsk issue: ... There are two options: "Jews are not real!" ... or ..
    1. 290980
      290980 2 July 2014 01: 43
      0
      I suddenly believed in the omnipotence of the "Mossad" (they snatched a Nazi from the bowels of Latin America).

      if only you had found out the details of that operation, then the myth about the level of training of those specialists was completely dispelled, it was at the level of trainees))) I watched on it a broadcast where the very specialists that captured talked about it .... looked and laughed, professionalism there there were 5 percent.
      .. they were waiting for Eichmann at a car park in an open field with a hood open, waiting for Eichmann to travel by bus to the house (the house was 300 meters from the stop), but he did not arrive at the appointed time and the Mosadovites decided to wait, 1.5 foreheads were sitting four foreheads in a car, like they broke down, that even local residents began to drive up to them and were interested in whether they needed help))) ... then there were even more jambs, but they were lucky.
  32. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 1 July 2014 18: 21
    +2
    Quote: number 17
    The main thing is that two hundred dead guys found. That's why they were killed and who and for what purpose.

    Dear you personally imagine what 200 corpses raised from the lake? Your info looks like a lie, a lake, a district, who raised it, etc. To raise 200 corpses with stones on their feet, a whole division of divers and a couple of days are needed.
    1. Number 17
      Number 17 1 July 2014 18: 36
      -1
      Imagine. 2 companies of 100 people. Do not want do not believe. I know that they didn’t lie to me. Wait, but I didn’t say that one person raised it. I did not say that everything was done in a short period of time. Here from this moment on in more detail. Where did you get such data?
    2. thrower
      thrower 2 July 2014 00: 16
      0
      Anatoly Shary about what uv. 17 speaks as a terrible secret.

  33. Vend
    Vend 1 July 2014 18: 31
    +2
    Well, we already know the vile deeds of these freaks. That still would have believed Europe and stopped groveling before the United States. Such would quickly shut up and huddle in the cracks. "We would have lived alone, we thought. And Europe is looking at us. Now the times are not Gostomysl, cruel times" - from the Dilogy of the Youth of Peter.
  34. cosmos132
    cosmos132 1 July 2014 18: 44
    +1
    On the roads pull dill heavy equipment, officers are driving.
  35. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 1 July 2014 19: 03
    +1
    The correspondence is certainly interesting, but the time zone is confusing on the published screen from the supposedly hacked page: GMT + 03: 00,

    I also do not have the time zone, so I'm not me? laughing
  36. shitovmg
    shitovmg 1 July 2014 19: 04
    +3
    Quote: nahalenok911
    Not to be afraid of. They just don't believe us. Because they DO NOT WANT to believe.

    I have 4 classmates in Kiev. I have not communicated with one for a long time. Another repeats one thing that you and your Putin want from us? We communicate with a close friend, a former major of the Soviet Army, as in previous times! And the fourth classmate, the head of the tax inspectorate in one of the districts of Kiev, is sharply opposed to Putin and Russia, while I do not even risk communicating. We all studied in Moldova, in Dubossary.
  37. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 1 July 2014 19: 06
    0
    Something is hard to believe. Two senior officials do not communicate on ZAS, but how children crawl on social networks or use e-mail. Two options are either disa, or things are very bad for our southern neighbors. However, the main challenges are still very far from kirdyk.
  38. not main
    not main 1 July 2014 19: 47
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Lugansk region from the bottom of the lake raised two hundred corpses of young people. Traces of violent death are present. Stones tied to the legs. Many without clothes. Look like conscripts or contractors. The militia of Lugansk is not involved in the death of these people. There were officers in place. Detected by a suspicious smell, local residents.

    No decomposition products are heard from under the water! There is no smell or color, I'm not talking about coins, and dumping such an amount in secret is extremely problematic! Especially in such a densely populated region!
  39. Chaika
    Chaika 1 July 2014 19: 49
    +1
    Correspondence of Koval and Yarema about military revolt.
    Under this heading, the article was published in Russian Spring, without any fake-nefake there. There is also a fragment of the "output data", but this article is truncated, hence the questions: fake is not fake
    1. Deff
      Deff 1 July 2014 20: 00
      0
      Yes, do not care, correspondence two weeks ago, if something happened, some measures have already been taken
  40. Militia
    Militia 1 July 2014 20: 12
    +2
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community took patronage over punitive units in the Donbass


    Pictured Filatov, Eleanor Groisman and Korban in Jerusalem

    Eleonora Groisman and "Kiev Jewish" report on the feasible help of the Jews in the final solution of the Donetsk issue:

    "The Dnepropetrovsk Jewish religious community and parishioners of the Central Synagogue" Golden Rose "provide all-round assistance to the servicemen fighting against terrorists and defending the unity and integrity of Ukraine, and call on the Jews of Dnepropetrovsk to actively help them in this. ...

    Well, for the pennies of Judah Kolomoisky they will deny Jesus and say that he was sent to earth by the devil himself. And when everything changes, they will say that we were forced to do so. The main thing is to squeeze out the loot. And it’s not in Jewish as that a Jew would not help a Jew. Judging by their well-fed and contented faces, they are not starving in their community. And the victims of the Holocaust are also not like.
  41. Lukich
    Lukich 1 July 2014 20: 48
    +7
    everything seems to go to this laughing
  42. Thompson
    Thompson 1 July 2014 21: 52
    0
    Quote: Lukich
    Quote: Sith Lord
    Eleonora Groisman and "Kiev Jewish" report on the feasible help of the Jews in the final solution of the Donetsk issue:

    But then what about it?

    So I’m talking about the same thing - it’s worth saying about the Jews and at once everyone and everyone forgets about the topic of the article. Handsome men! And who is not a zombie ... tsya box or monitor ????
  43. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 1 July 2014 22: 47
    0
    Quote: number 17
    Tell me, do you often see two hundred corpses of young boys which they take with you from a reservoir?

    Twice in a lifetime. And for this I say that 200 bodies that were thrown by a reservoir that got a fake from the water. Can you imagine 3-4 refrigerated wagons? Can you imagine how long it takes to lift 200 corpses from the water?
  44. Shurshyk
    Shurshyk 1 July 2014 22: 54
    0
    Quote: Koresh
    Fake is not a fake, but the army does not have a real commander or leader to raise an army against the junta.

    If the army does not have a leader, then this is a crowd, rabble or, more precisely, a herd.
  45. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 1 July 2014 23: 02
    +1
    Quote: number 17
    Stones tied to the legs.

    Quote: Leprechaun
    To raise 200 corpses with stones on their feet, a whole division of divers and a couple of days are needed.

    Quote: number 17
    Here from this moment on in more detail. Where did you get such data?

    You yourself wrote stones attached to your feet. I note two hundred stones should be quite weighty to keep the corpse under water. There are quarries? You yourself think and raise these troupes also in that situation, I’ll believe 10-20 even 50 corpses but 200, One friend said, I won’t say where, etc. if not fake then exaggerated at times. People always tend to exaggerate the slopes, and downplay the state.
  46. VOLOD
    VOLOD 1 July 2014 23: 54
    0
    infa about 200 corpses somewhere else was. I saw one hundred pounds with my own eyes. in the sense of info.
  47. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 2 July 2014 03: 18
    0
    Just "ministers write". They were waiting for the T-shirt too!
  48. Wolka
    Wolka 2 July 2014 05: 32
    +1
    It seems that in the Ukranian raspberries, there was not a weak riffraff ... hi
  49. SHOKER
    SHOKER 2 July 2014 08: 15
    +1
    Potential fake and timezone are not the only hints at this. For example, circumstantial evidence: the first - the names of the e-mail addresses are actually the first and last name (so that it was clearly so), the second - too short messages for correspondence by e-mail, the third - too explicit subtext of these messages, as for two people who already " We have been familiar with the problem for a long time, "Fourth - Koval" solves "issues with a riot in the troops by blackmail in their families, I would still believe if Parubiy did it, but this campaigner ... is doubtful, and the last - such issues are easier and much more effective to solve through government communications or on the advice of the NSDC, than by e-mail.