Rubles, yuan and euro against the dollar: three for one

Recently it became known that Gazprom Neft offered foreign partners to switch to settlements in rubles, and Belarus and Kazakhstan have already given preliminary "good". LUKoil believes that it is possible to switch to calculations for the euro instead of the dollar, although it is not easy. The gas rapprochement between Russia and China, within which RMB is expected to be exchanged for rubles, is also capable of undermining the position of the dollar as a world reserve currency. And in the West, rumors are crawling that world leaders are thinking about a new key currency ...

According to experts of the "West Shore Group", which leads the newspaper Kommersant, the rapprochement of Russia and China can negatively affect the position of the dollar as the world reserve currency - in the event that the dollar is excluded from the calculations for the signed gas contract.

The West Shore Group expert says: “Taken separately, this does not mean the end of the dollar as the main global reserve currency. But in the context of many other events taking place in the world, from the disappointment of Saudi Arabia with the movement of American foreign policy towards Iran to the insatiable appetite of China for gold, this could mean steps to move away from the dollar. ”

According to the expert, today the status of the dollar as a world reserve currency allows the US to borrow large sums, living beyond its means. Therefore, the “distance” can also look like a catastrophe (for the dollar). After all, the events mentioned above relate to the global financial market.

As a business newspaper recently reported RBK Daily, Gazprom Neft has offered its foreign partners to switch to settlements in rubles.

“We sent proposals to consider the possibility of settlements in rubles and we are waiting for a reaction from our consumers,” said Alexander Dyukov, General Director of Gazprom Neft.

According to him, Belarus and Kazakhstan confirmed their readiness to pay in rubles.

Rubles - this is not all that can harm the dollar.

Mr. Dyukov added that Gazprom Neft had signed supplemental agreements with partners. We are talking about the transition to calculations in euros. And 95% of clients agreed to this offer! But where are the other five percent? This is probably Asian partners. According to Dyukov, they are ready to switch to calculations in yuan.

26 June стало известноthat does not exclude the transfer of settlements with counterparties to the euro and LUKoil.

“We do not exclude (the transition to the euro. - Ed.), But today the trade in our goods is based on dollars. Any transfer to another currency is possible, we are preparing similar scenarios, but at the first stage this will entail additional expenses, ”said Alexander Matytsin, senior vice president of finance for the company.

He also noted that the company receives 60% revenue in dollars, 40% - in rubles. “Our commitments are in dollars, we also receive revenues in dollars, so there may be additional costs,” he noted.

In the same piggy bank positive News There is also information about Rosneft.

Back in mid-May, the head of OJSC Rosneft, Igor Sechin, became the chairman of the board of directors of CJSC St. Petersburg International Commodity and Raw Materials Exchange. Sechin has already said that the exchange has become a leader in the oil products market, and it has the opportunity to create an independent price index for Russian oil. This site writes "Live Energy".

SPIMEXB - the largest commodity exchange in Russia. The board of directors, in addition to Sechin, includes representatives of OAO Gazprom, OAO Russian Railways, OAO Zarubezhneft, OAO Tatneft, OAO Transneft and OAO Surgutneftegaz.

Sechin emphasized that there is an opportunity to create an independent price index based on export contracts for Russian oil, which are concluded with Europe and with the countries of the Asia-Pacific region.

Such a statement suggests the same idea of ​​calculations for energy resources, if not in rubles, then in euros and yuan.

According to Michael Thomas (Michael Thomas), who leads Mixednews.ru, the petrodollar has already staggered.

“Russia is taking serious steps, and every country that has hooked its trailer to the US dollar train should think about it. <...> According to Glazyev (adviser to President Putin. - Author), the only way to force the US to abandon its plans to unleash a new Cold War is to bring down the dollar system. "

The economic adviser to the Russian president believes that the United States is trying to provoke Russia's military invasion of Ukraine. Kiev junta - bait, which should bite Putin. If successful, Washington will receive a number of advantages. First, the opportunity to introduce new sanctions against Russia and immediately write off American obligations to Russian structures. Secondly, Russian companies will not be able to service their obligations to European banks. Such a political scenario will recur in the European Union: the projected cumulative losses, as Glazyev calculated, will exceed one trillion euros. The EU economy will get hit, and the US will be the only "safe haven" in the world. Gazprom, crushed by sanctions, will lose the European market, and more expensive American LNG will arrive there. Next, the White House will begin to command in Europe, since European countries will be drawn into a new arms race. In addition, military action against Russia will increase the political influence of the United States in Europe. Washington will begin to impose its vision of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership on the European Union. As a result, Europe will become a huge colony of the United States.

“The set of measures proposed by Glazyev is aimed at the very heart of the American military machine - the Fed printing press. Putin's advisor proposes to create a broad anti-dollar coalition with those countries that are ready to withdraw from the calculations in US currency. Alliance members also need to abandon dollar instruments when they place their foreign exchange reserves. The anti-dollar coalition could be the first step towards creating an anti-war alliance aimed at ending the US aggression. ”

Strange as it may be for Washington, M. Thomas concludes, but the war in Ukraine may develop into a European struggle for independence from the United States, and incidentally into a battle against the dollar.

Is the battle? Well, the offensive is already underway, and the Americans missed him.

On June 25 and 26, talks were held in Shanghai between representatives of the Central Bank of Russia and the People's Bank of China. It was about replacing the US dollar with national currencies. Moreover, the parties talked about the creation of a Russian-Chinese rating agency, which should compete with Moody's, Fitch and S&P, the magazine notes. "Expert".

“Representatives of the Russian and Chinese financial community noted the ongoing development of mutual presence in the banking sector, the expansion of the network of direct correspondent relations between Russian and Chinese banks, the growth of trade in the yuan-ruble currency pair, the introduction of new forms of financial cooperation (in particular, in the insurance industry), and They also outlined ways to further improve cooperation in the financial sector, ”said the relevant report of the Central Bank of Russia.

In the meantime, curious information was received from Europe about the discussion of changes in the world monetary system.

On discussing the issue of changing the monetary order, said the former Prime Minister of Greece George Papandreou. No, the conversation was not in the kitchen, and it was not the political retirees who were gossiping. The discussion was conducted by the heads of government. And they said for a long time.

Co-founder and director of the English investment fund Hinde Capital, Ben Davis, spoke about his recent conversation with the former Prime Minister of Greece Georgios Papandreou, reports Mixednews.ru with reference to ETF Daily News.

This is what Ben Davis said:

“In fact, I asked him:“ Did you know about the comments of the former vice-president of the German Federal Bank and the former member of the European Central Bank Jurgen Stark, in which he suggested that the entire financial system is “pure fiction” and that runs the risk of collapsing due to the infinite number of money released? ”Then I asked:“ When you headed the political system of Greece, did politicians discuss at the level of heads of government monetary order changes? ”

Papandreou responded to this:

“Yes, in addition to austerity measures, in addition to reforms, there were discussions on how to change the monetary order.

Discussed and a set of currencies, which could include gold.

Further in the material it is noted that Ben Davis is a “reliable source”. And therefore, he said that world leaders are considering the idea of ​​a new key currency, which will replace the US dollar, you can believe.

Recall that Georgios Papandreou was the Greek Prime Minister in 2009-2011.

Let's sum up.

The impetus for finding a stable new currency was the awareness of many countries in the world, including European ones, a strong dependence on US policy that set off wars, make color revolutions, impose sanctions against competitors and do not stop pumping the world with petrodollars. Europe, aware of how deeply it can plunge into the abyss of the Cold War and get stuck in an arms race at the whim of the White House, is ready to switch to euro calculations: reports from the “currency front” from Gazprom Neft speak about it. Otherwise, in the end, Europe will have to live according to the gloomy scenario voiced by Glazyev.

As for China, the scheme of calculations in rubles and yuan is quite satisfied with it.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru

Comments

[Stypor23]

What a headline. A couple of currencies will not hurt. Then you can arrange large-scale military operations against the dollar with 100% chance of victory.

[Alekseev]

Increase production in goods in demand and demand payment not in dollars (rubles, yuan, etc.)
And the dollar will fall first, and then it will not rise.
The main problem is the very increase in production and trade, and not for the US market.

[nikolaev]

Evgeny Novikov. "Human rights. A look into the world. " 02.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
http://www.russiapost.su/archives/28228

[Sakhalininsk]

All right! The enemy must be beaten in his most tender place! In the case of the United States, this is a particularly tender and erogenous place, it costs the dollar to collapse as a world reserve currency and the kirdyk in the form of a polar fur-bearing animal will not be tempted to visit the US economy.

[WKS]

Quote: Sakhalininets

The enemy must be beaten in his most tender place! In the case of the United States, this is a particularly tender and erogenous place, it costs the dollar to collapse as a world reserve currency and the kirdyk in the form of a polar fur-bearing animal will not be tempted to visit the US economy.

Apparently, such an operation is being prepared, but the process is aggravated by the fact that after the collapse of green, all holders of this currency, both countries and individual old women, will suffer.

[Seriv]

Quote: wks

Apparently, such an operation is being prepared, but the process is aggravated by the fact that after the collapse of green, all holders of this currency, both countries and individual old women, will suffer.

This is so, but if the dollar is not overwhelmed, then they will suffer even more. As long as the dollar exists, there is a threat of war for every green holder. And the sooner the collapse occurs, the less losses.

[sanyavolhv]

health
the threat of war WILL INCREASE if the "everlasting" green falls. all the weapons that America has accumulated must be used. there is no other way to start the American economy as soon as more and more weapons are made and used. in America, the economy is precisely the production of weapons. everything else can be somehow forgotten. how much it costs to produce weapons from America's own resource stocks does not matter. paying a million or one dollar for a rocket doesn't matter at all. especially if you switch to a card payment system. for example: 100 grams of butter in one hand ... bagachi and the state will find equivalents. as an example, the slave dependence of workers in military enterprises.

[oblako]

As Comrade Stalin said: "... there is no war without losses ..." and lit his pipe ...

[Tourist]

Quote: oblako

As Comrade Stalin said: "... there is no war without losses ..." and lit his pipe ...

In fact, the phrase belongs to S.M. Budennui said it was addressed to Iosiv Vissarionovich in response to the reproach for losses during the Donbas operation. And it sounded a little differently: "In a war, there is no VICTORY without losses."

[stoker]

This view of the "public" is soothing. Especially if you consider that we will be among the "losses" entirely.

[maxxdesign]

show at least one old woman who transfers the pension to bucks and stores in the locker)))
maybe it’s only in Moscow the old bucks are saving up) in the rest of Russia, many old women didn’t even see them in their hands.
and the collapse of the dollar will hit the oligarchs, because it’s easy to maintain foreign currency, in rubles you need to build a business and not in dollars and euros! ... Moscow has already drowned in these pieces of paper!

[Sterlya]

Quote: wks

Quote: Sakhalininets

The enemy must be beaten in his most tender place! In the case of the United States, this is a particularly tender and erogenous place, it costs the dollar to collapse as a world reserve currency and the kirdyk in the form of a polar fur-bearing animal will not be tempted to visit the US economy.

Apparently, such an operation is being prepared, but the process is aggravated by the fact that after the collapse of green, all holders of this currency, both countries and individual old women, will suffer.

Hit the oligarchs. I have a dollar to the bulb, and there is nothing American at home. All Chinese and Russian. And Russia, with a turnover of 29 billion from the USA, is ridiculously scary. (with Europe 400 billion, with China 100 billion)

[stoker]

In general, I paid attention - the less dollars a person has, the more radically he (the person) refers to them (dollars).

[stoker]

Exactly what is being prepared. And it is prepared by the Americans.

[Cherdak]

Quote: Sakhalininets

In the case of the United States, this is a particularly tender and erogenous place.

[scout]

The collapse will not happen overnight! But you are right that you need to beat. In my opinion, it is important that the process is started, we hope that its implementation will not be sabotaged by oligarchs and officials!

[Canep]

Quote: Stypor23

large-scale military operations against the dollar with 100% chance of winning.

They have already begun, this article is a shot at the dollar, each such article undermines confidence in these pieces of paper, the Dollar is really not provided with anything and rests only on trust, and the monopoly pricing of hydrocarbons in dollars. The dollar will collapse for several reasons:
1. Indirect collateral for the dollar is Saudi oil, which will end sooner or later.
2. The Saudis are no longer satisfied with US policy and they are likely to soon give up US support.
3. A huge US national debt undermines confidence in the dollar.
4. Russia, China, Europe, etc. are not interested in trading in dollars and will soon abandon it.
The dollar holds only due to the fact that huge savings are concentrated in dollars, and no one wants to lose them.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Canep

Europe and others are not interested in trading in dollars and will soon abandon it

Only Europe is dancing to the tune of the Zaokens in Ukraine’s issue

[Canep]

Quote: Stypor23

Only Europe is dancing to the tune of the Zaokens in Ukraine’s issue

Rather than dancing to the tune, but tugging at the ropes tied to Wall Street.

[SIT]

Quote: Stypor23

Only Europe is dancing to the tune of the Zaokens in Ukraine’s issue

Why only in Ukraine? The EU locomotive is Germany. Her gold is still kept in the United States. The existence of a chancellor is also very, very likely. The French Bank of the USA is also held on Kukan. So the EU is a branch of the Fed.

[Stypor23]

Our Sberbank is also there

[jonh]

the dollar will collapse and China will suffer first. US debt to China will depreciate. and the United States will be the last to suffer. someone would not say anything and no tales would tell about the US industry. But this industry itself is huge in the United States. and if we take into account all the branches of corporations around the world, we get that half of the world is tied to the United States. and fairy tales about the printing press are just fairy tales. You cannot print as much money as you like for one simple reason. money is the equivalent of some material good. and dollars exactly as many as these material equivalents. printing just discounts paper if anyone is not in the know.

[staryivoin]

China will become the state creditor, and the United States - the state debtor with all the ensuing consequences. What do you probably know with debtors?

[Semurik]

and they will remember about Mao Zedong, the great admirer of Lenin ... and say his sacramental: "we must forgive everyone to everyone"))))

[97110]

Quote: staryivoin

and the United States - the state debtor with all the ensuing consequences.

And his debt will be in $, collapsed. Grandmother told how in 1918 they sold a house in the village for 100 rubles, and six months later a wooden shovel was worth 000. And any of us who lived in the 500s will say something similar. So the consequences for pin dosii are not so obvious. There is more hope that the world familiar to pin-dos will collapse. The presence in the country of a large number below the middle class makes one recall the urban battles of the late 000s.

[nachprod]

It’s immediately obvious that you only heard about the economy ......

The whole problem is that the dollar is not backed by anything in fact. And it keeps only because of oil, or rather because of payments for oil in dollars, and of the "chaos theory" that the United States starts every time when oil prices begin to fluctuate.

[jonh]

Well, if it’s not secured, I think you need to study the volume of industrial production in the USA and agricultural production in the USA. and to study why they export nearly 4 trillion dollars there annually. By the way, China should be in the United States. and the fact that the dollar is not tied to gold since the 70s of the last century is probably all in the know

[fennekRUS]

Mainly export services, and a bit of democracy
In general, the USA is an interesting way to keep statistics. I won’t say the details offhand, but in addition to material support, the virtual cost of services and insurance, not even paid, is taken into account. Let the experts correct.

[Semurik]

for sure!
risk insurance (the so-called hedging) is profitable. almost everyone in the world insures ov companies.
it’s profitable: to announce the availability of a huge stabilization fund, to enlist the support of the state fund, and voila))) insure the POSSIBLE risks for REAL denyuzhki)

[jonh]

Well, of course, services. and caterpillars, john deeres, case, challengers and new holland, etc. all this is probably collected in China. this is just a tiny fraction, but I think it’s familiar to many.

[311066]

jonh America consumes more than it produces open wikipedia and read there the whole world pays tribute to them here they chew

[Armata]

Quote: jonh

Well, of course, services. and caterpillars, john deeres, case, challengers and new holland etc it’s probably all collected in China

It will be a shock for you, but most brands are made in Russia and China by working on a franchise. So when you see a device with the name not John Deere, but simply labeled DEER, it is made in China. BOBCAT is a low-cost caterpillar technology manufactured in China, Belarus and Russia.

[Semurik]

Quote: jonh

Why are they exporting almost 4 trillion dollars there annually

agree that export is NOT to produce)))
remember who in the 90s. of the last century was the largest exporter of non-ferrous metals and dairy products ?????
LATVIA!!!!
)))
but with regards to production ... take the same oil sector ... the United States lives off "forward" contracts, i.e. (1) play on the stock exchange with prices and hedges ... plus ... (2) shipments from other countries! those. its own n / extractive industry for sooo most of its part is mothballed (the so-called basis of the strategic reserve).
and forcing us to open wells, we remove US traders from the leading positions (since reorienting the activity is a rather expensive undertaking) + economic forecasts and efforts by OPEC ... well, you can guess who these actions are in favor of))

[jonh]

it’s very easy to find out world oil consumption and multiply it by one hundred dollars and find out the real amount of all oil transactions. we take 100% from these $ 20 and we’ll find out about the amount that the United States mostly lives like that. by the way, I’d be too lazy to hear what kind of goods or raw materials the United States re-exports

[sanyavolhv]

health
I dare say the dollar is held at FEAR to lose huge money after the collapse of the dollar system. it is FEAR and is pumping America now.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: jonh

the dollar will collapse and China will suffer first.

They understand this, it is not for nothing that they buy gold through official channels, and through shell companies. The fact that the state buys redheads according to gray schemes says a lot.
And the fact that the industry is developed in the USA does not matter, the financial crisis is like a cataclysm, imagine how the government will explain to the people that you need to pay a REAL PRICE for goods and energy resources, and not subsidized by the whole world, as it is now. I do not believe in the endurance and ability of the American "nation" to suffer, all the more so examples such as New Orleans have shown how the Pendos behave when you need to strain.

[jonh]

Well, many citizens of the USSR also did not suspect about 90 years. nonetheless somehow but survived

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: jonh

Well, many citizens of the USSR also did not suspect about 90 years.

There are greenhouse vegetables, and there are garden vegetables. Gardening plots are all mediocre, you can say unpretentious, and greenhouse plots - a sample for the picture. But! The gardener doesn’t care at all, but take the greenhouse out of the greenhouse, and leave it for a week under the open sky - and it’s kirdyk.
Hope the analogies are clear. I’m not saying that China will not suffer from the fall of the dollar, it will suffer, we will also grab it, but they are now worried about saving up straws, and we have the majority in government bonds of the same USA. But we do have resources, but China does not have them, and therefore they are saving up a gold coin.

[jonh]

I only understand that so many want it so much that they replace reality with this desire. and about the greenhouse. don’t take the Americans as Zadorn says. not especially the life of an ordinary American and differs from the life of an ordinary Russian.

[Buran]

The mentality is different, and there are so many weapons in the hands of the population as in the United States, nowhere else. Whites will seize in full when the "oppressed" Negroes and Latinos start to nightmare them. They are strong with internal propaganda, as soon as the standard of living falls, the fun begins.

[fennekRUS]

Especially if you do not take the megacities. In "one-story America" ​​life is not much different from our Palestinians.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: jonh

Well, many citizens of the USSR also did not suspect about 90 years. nonetheless somehow but survived

How did you survive? !! A lot of people went to the next world much earlier than the due date! Industry, science, etc. etc. suffered very much, factories destroyed purposefully for the money of the West! I think this is a very big tragedy for the children of the USSR and not only!

[Semurik]

By the way ... I don’t remember exactly where it was mentioned ... but in the same Ukraine 260 suicides occurred over the next six months due to the inability to pay loans, the growth of the rate and rates (

so that..

[revnagan]

Quote: jonh

Well, many citizens of the USSR also did not suspect about 90 years. nonetheless somehow but survived

True, they survived, but the positions of the superpower were lost for a long time.The question is how to save the United States from a monopoly on the world dictatorship. Nobody wants death for ordinary Americans. not a superpower-oooh, that'll be fair!

[akimkatungus]

That's just somehow. This - WE RUSSIANs can get up from our knees. The war 41-45g and perestroika, and then the collapse of the USSR. This am, sorry for being rude, do not understand and do not raise.

[sanyavolhv]

health
Is the industry huge in the USA? But what do they buy in China? maybe nothing?
Industry inside America is a MILITARY structure. and so, every little thing. do not be mistaken. everything is much worse than you think. all your hopes for Uncle Sema as a world gigimon are no longer interesting to many independents, well, perhaps, these are INDEPENDENT Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine .... of course, I want to be closer to the former slave owner.
as for China’s losses, freedom is worth something, China and Russia are buying their freedom from America, that's all. however, everyone else will buy their freedom from stupid America imagining itself ....

[Wheel]

Quote: jonh

money is the equivalent of some material good. and dollars exactly as many as these material equivalents. printing just discounts paper if anyone is not in the know.

Sorry, but you are not in the know.
There are much more dollars than material resources, for money, as the equivalent of a product, ran out after the cancellation of collateral.
While money makes money, talking about equivalence is foolish.

[mark7]

Quote: Canep

. The Saudis are no longer satisfied with US policy and they are likely to soon

then, democracy will urgently come to them, the mattresses have the strongest military machine yet

[Semurik]

Let me comment))
item 1. Not oil is collateral, but GOLD !!! (which is mostly stored in Fort Knox ... but the place can also be changed)).
And oil ... is pure commodity), especially considering the trade in it. Determination of prices (and inflation of the "soap bubble") is provided by the so-called futures contracts (together with spot contracts), i.e. it is not trading in REAL raw materials.
item 2. Without intruding on Saudi politics, I note that it is Saudi Arabia that 70% (min) ensures the welfare of the US currency and its volatility. And her withdrawal of at least 10-12% of own funds from the US economy brings down both the currency and creditor guarantees, and, in fact, the entire US economy.
How to make them withdraw? Nuuu .... the example of the "rustle of a rocket over the Persian Gulf" is not indicative, but the continuation of the North African and East Asian revolutions may push them to such actions) first as a warning and protection of their means, and only then as God (Allah) will give.
item 3. Physical accumulation is good, but still far from being primary in the economy and does not bring tangible changes with growth / spending.

something like this)

[sanyavolhv]

health
let me disagree with you. security is FEAR. fear to lose, fear to get on the head, fear to get a revolution. FEAR rules the world, gold, oil and other nonsense ....

[Wheel]

Quote: sanyavolhv

FEAR rules the world

And greed.

[stoker]

Quote: Canep

They have already begun, this article is a shot at the dollar ...

This is not a shot at the "dollar", but at the moon with the aim of bringing it down. Because of her, sleepwalkers are uneasy. And the discussion of this "article" is the choice of the weapon of "retaliation" (SVD, rocket or "tulka" will be enough).

And even if this "something" flies through and, God forbid, falls - then what? What does the moon care about?

And the participants in this "project" will have to sit in a "circle", turn out their pockets and count their remaining "altyn-five-altynnye" in order to understand how much this entertainment cost the people.

But no one really seems to want to "shoot the dollar". "Here we are bro by the edges."

No, from those who want to buy our oil-gas, weapons and other wealth for RMB, beads and coconut husks it will be impossible to beat off. The line to line up to this very moon in this very way. Moreover, it is the Americans with these same beads that will be the first in it. All are pushed. This was already the case in the late 20s, when tens of tons of gold, tens of thousands of works of art, and unique church utensils were paid for rotten grain and expired stew. But then there was a famine, devastation after the Citizen. People and the country were saved.

This was the case in the 90s. Privatization, vouchers ... Have you forgotten the "ruin in your heads"?

"Shaw again?" (C). In the new century - with new "rakes"? Now we will struggle with the currency of international trade.

To finish off, finally ruin and ruin the Motherland?

[Giant thought]

Gradually, the end of the financial structure that fed the mattresses all the years of its existence comes to an end. But all good things come to an end. It is time for the United States to begin to live within its means, as well as everyone else in our world.

[knn54]

To get away from the dollar, both the yuan and the ruble must receive a weight on the world currency market comparable to at least the weight of the Swiss franc, Japanese yen ... Chinese businessmen, for obvious reasons, are wary of the ruble. The more stable the economic situation in Russia, the faster confidence in the Russian national currency will be restored.
The main thing is that the FIRST steps of trading in rubles and RMB are made, and they, as always, are the most difficult.

[Escander_84]

By itself, the transition to the ruble in payments for energy will add him liquidity and is not very weak !!!

[ibnvladimir]

And what is the "weight" of the dollar? The same as the ruble. Both currencies are not backed by anything other than demand. The demand for the dollar is great, for the ruble it is much less, about 36 times. =)

[Rostov]

Quote: ibnvladimir

Demand for the dollar is great, for the ruble it is much less, about 36 times

And why 36 times? Please explain, it’s really very interesting.

[sanyavolhv]

health
not properly. weight will come exactly when they will change among themselves. Between themselves they can and without weight can change.

[andrereu74]

I’m waiting, I won’t wait until the day I enter the toilet with a roll of green paper))))

[Nikolav]

The first steps must be taken. But ... We are too ... No, not us, but the oligarchs are tied to green. All assets in it, real estate over the hill, children in London pay them ... In the first place, they, the owners of life, will suffer. Therefore, I do not expect anything radical. Im so good. And it can become bad ... Therefore, they won’t give it ...

[ibnvladimir]

That is why Putin asked for popular support. With the SE, the people began to do something themselves. Then, on the sly, he will sort out his savings in the "necessary" currency. And then you look and our people will understand that they are a real force, especially at a time when there is no decisive advantage at the top.

[sanyavolhv]

health
in London they pay pounds. this is so if you did not know. throw off the greens, if not two fingers on the asphalt, then it’s about as simple ..

[sanyavolhv]

health
in London they pay pounds. this is so if you did not know. throw off the greens, if not two fingers on the asphalt, then it’s about as simple ..

[ibnvladimir]

Hard after all. Well, she will have to mash it. =)

[ibnvladimir]

Brazilian Real, Rupee, South African Rand ... will these fit? =)

[Semurik]

of course ... this is not Moldovan leu and Belarusian rubles)))
but...
About 2 years ago, it was decided at a meeting of the heads of Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Honduras, Dominica and Ecuador on the creation of a single currency zone to deal with the consequences of the global financial and economic crisis and weaken the dependence of their economies on the dollar. It was proposed to name the new currency sucre (sucre, from the Spanish sistema unitario de compensacion regional - a single system of regional compensation).

Here is such a currency would be our allies!))

[Hannibal Lecter]

Everything was already invented and worked perfectly - this is Ecu. Everything just said amoeba. Snap to gold and all are equal before all.

[Tambov]

"... fighting against the dollar with a 100% chance of winning."

Beautiful dream! Or an illusion (albeit beautiful)?
This damn $$ would be "empty piece of paper" if it was not provided by ... yeah, by these very ... US and NATO military forces.
Sadam tried to pay for oil and gas bypassing $$. Then he hid in a pit, but was found and hanged, if you remember.
And he did not try it alone. So without arming yourself to the teeth with modern means of warfare in sufficient quantities ... I do not know ...
I don’t love myself, but the truth is even more expensive.

[Ihrek]

It is high time to move away from dollar settlements. And this is the Achilles heel of The Empire of Lies.

[Same lech]

So slowly and it is necessary to collapse the BLAZE dollar paper power of the US empire.

[fennekRUS]

keyword slowly so that it doesn’t cover

[ia-ai00]

I can imagine how the heads of the State Department and the CIA will swell if $ starts to lose ground on a global scale: - "CHEF, EVERYTHING IS LOST !!! ..."

[aleks_29296]

I can imagine how the heads of the State Department and the CIA will swell if $ starts to lose ground on a global scale: - "CHEF, EVERYTHING IS LOST !!! ..."

Better imagine how the Boschs of our oligarchs are inflated.

[Berimor 2]

"Nice" call to "partners" from the USA.

[johnsnz]

World settlements in a non-existent currency (I'm talking about a dollar) will still lead to the greatest economic collapse of the world!
If you try to understand how big the US national debt is, you will need to imagine a pack of $ 100-dollar bills, the width of a football field and almost as tall as a statue of Liberty!
At the moment, the "ceiling" of the national debt is $ 16,4 trillion. It was raised on January 30, 2012. However, the national debt has already exceeded $ 16,7 trillion.
If any of the countries in the top ten US creditors declares the debt to be repaid, it is 100% in default! They simply do not exist, this money, there is no security! As one friend of mine says: "Gentlemen, this is a solid Wirth!"

[suomi76]

Experts-economists note.
I remind you that the ratio of the US public debt to US gross domestic product is 106% .In 1999, Russia had almost 100%, and nothing is alive. In addition, the US public debt, unlike the Russian public debt, was not nominated in a foreign unit, but in the currency of the debtor's country.

[Escander_84]

Only Russia has since lived in the strictest economy, and Amers live like that, their status and religion do not allow it! They just do not know how. What remains of the US contract army, from the defense industry, and from industry. If they switch to saving mode ??? And if the United States Defense Ministry cannot ensure the country's defense capability (and it cannot, because there will be nothing to save in the economy mode), then their Savy Navy will stop counting even the Somali pirates for the fleet!

[suomi76]

Yeah they do not know how In 1946, if memory does not change 121%, the beginning of 8ox is 30%.
In the confrontation with the USSR, without a mobilization structure of the economy, without export of hydrocarbons.
In general, all this is talk in favor of the poor. That is stupid. As soon as you write your comments not on Windows, but on Russian or Chinese OSes, then the collapse of the United States will be just around the corner. Until their development they rule in the global system.

[SIT]

Quote: suomi76

Yeah, they don’t know how. In 1946, if the memory does not change 121%, the beginning of the 8th - 30%.

Who did the United States owe in 1946? It was the era of the gold standard and 70% of the world's gold lay in Fort Knox, which fixed the Bretton Woods Agreement. The structure of the public debt after the 2nd world and now these are two different things.

[suomi76]

And what? What will prevent inflation, lowering the solvency of the population 2 times and get economic growth by seven percent a year. What difference does it owe to them in 1946 if their economy grew at a faster pace. Capitalism develops from crisis to crisis and this is not the first not the last.
They made fun of the gold standard. The rejection of it is just the advantage of the United States. By the way, all figures like old man and his ilk (I don't mean you) advocate with him for this very standard, as for my mother. He doesn’t even think about it, which’s not right now the Middle Ages and gold one day can get its face value, like technical metal. Like everything else.
R&D, yes, but tell me whose architecture is in your process?
PS And it was about not being able to, it seems so.

[ibnvladimir]

It always surprised me too ... With such an abundance of SUCH hackers, we still do not have our own simple but reliable, like a Kalashnikov, operating system. Why? I heard that some work is underway, but we are not even reaching Linux for something, and very much. I heard our 4-core percent will be collected, wadded, of course, but "the trouble is the beginning." Somehow we, with all our "megamind" =), cannot overcome some incomprehensible barrier. Maybe it's time to stop "catching up and overtaking", but it's time to just live. And act out of your own interests. To eradicate this psychology of those who are always catching up.

[suomi76]

So I don’t know. Good comments from you.

[fess]

I do not argue that such a collapse of the United States may not happen. But I suppose we can talk about a gradual decline in its economic indicators. Up to serious failures. In the 90s, we had natural resources, they now have technology, high-tech production. We lived in the 90s and they will live. But how were we? They will also have to. Their business and technology owners will feel great, like our oil oligarchs in the 90s. But we are talking about the majority of citizens. It may be possible to learn to save (including in wars, other aspects of foreign policy), but this is only at hand for us ...

[suomi76]

There were times in the history of the United States that Russia did not dream of crises of 2009 and 1997. And I can argue with anyone that as long as the US R&D in the field of consumer goods will overtake the People’s Republic, I’m not even talking about Russia, their economy will not collapse will go.

[Buran]

Over the 200 years of its history, there is only one great depression that they got out of thanks to the 2 world. Since they are promoting the Russian Federation in a war against the outskirts, with the subsequent global conflict in Europe, this is already a rather loud bell about their internal problems.

[suomi76]

first world economic crisis 1857
second world economic crisis 1873
first energy crisis 1973
black monday 1987
This is not counting the numerous growth retardation and stagnation.
The US industrial growth began long before cc2 in 1937, and stagnation slowed even earlier. You can talk about rfc, fera and other organizations that dragged the state economy out of the pit long before cc2.
During the Second World War, the increase in production was caused by mass deliveries to the army and the warring parties. I would like to hear from you what mass deliveries and where the Ukrainian crisis can cause.
And about one crisis in 200 years, this is a masterpiece, get a Nobel Prize in the field of economics.

[ibnvladimir]

And what is the state of affairs now? We are striving to pay off our debts, but the US - to increase.

[johnsnz]

Dear, where did these figures come from?
I can give a reference to the statistics of the world economy, and not for the 1999th, but for everything to the 2013th! http://www.ereport.ru/. Here is an excerpt on the subject:

Government debt of Russia,% of GDP
year value
2003 30.4
2004 22.3
2005 14.2
2006 9.0
2007 8.5
2008 7.9
2009 11.0
2010 7.9
2011 8.3
2012 8.0
2013 7.9

US government debt,% of GDP
year value
2003 60.4
2004 61.5
2005 61.7
2006 61.1
2007 62.3
2008 71.6
2009 85.2
2010 94.4
2011 67.8
2012 70.0
2013 71.8

[suomi76]

For the Russian Federation for 1999 pliz. For the United States view-source: www.tadviser.ru

[Leprechaun]

It's time for the United States to bend over their exorbitant ambitions.

[brelok]

What to say? Go ahead and with the song!

[Blackmokona]

I do not understand.
Well, the US will default, so what?
Russia defaulted in 1998, and after that the economy began to grow very well, the army was restored, and so on and so on.

[Flinky]

And the fact that no one will give them a loan, and will have to live within their means. And this will be extremely difficult for unusual mattresses.

[Blackmokona]

Given their size of public debt, their government spending not related to debt, this will not decrease.
Just stop paying interest.
And their government revenue is $ 2.902 trillion (2013). For comparison, Russia's GDP is 2.025 (2012) trillion dollars, and budget revenues 387,4 billion dollars (2013)
And I’ll immediately notice that printing dollars is not included in US government revenues, the Fed issues bonds, sells them, and transfers money to the US government on credit.
That is, the United States needs the Fed, and the Fed to the world. Declare the Fed bankruptcy, and u. Debt written off.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: BlackMokona

Given their size of public debt, their government spending not related to debt, this will not decrease.
Just stop paying interest.

The next day, as the United States ceases to pay interest, the dollar will cease to be a world currency with all the consequences for the United States.

[Blackmokona]

And what are the implications for the USA, please list

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: BlackMokona

And what are the implications for the USA, please list

The country ceases to pay interest on the state debt, automatically becomes bankrupt with all the consequences. Obama will paste the toilet over with dollars.
Do you know what is default?

[Blackmokona]

I know what a default is, and I have already cited the example of the Russian default in 1998, since after that the toilet did not paste over with rubles.
Anyway

Demand for cash dollars in the world continues to grow at a rate of about 10% per year, despite the measures taken by individual countries to limit cash flow. At the moment, 1,15 trillion cash dollars are in circulation, of which 900 billion in 100-dollar bills.

With US GDP of 16.8 trillion dollars.
And money is just a commodity that is needed for trading.
Simply, many do not understand how the US government debt works.
The USA takes loans from the Fed, while the Fed issues bonds that other people, countries, organizations buy for dollars, that is, with the growth of public debt, the system does not get more dollars. If the public debt disappears, how many dollars will remain.

[Buran]

Citizens and financial and economic enterprises will be responsible for state debts, that is, in case of bankruptcy, property acts as a means of payment. Russia has raw materials, thanks to which we can get out, the United States has only enterprises and a variety of assets, most of which are abroad. In the event of a collapse of the Dolar, judicial institutions of other states with such Amer’s assets will be happy to transfer them to solvent customers.

[Blackmokona]

It owes everything to the Fed, but it has no assets.
Fed bankrupt, nothing to sell.

[gandalf]

They will not give a loan after default, but:
Russia has so many resources that it can feed half the world, so it grows with its resources.
And the USA does not have enough resources to feed itself, in case of default - they have 90, but an order of magnitude worse + estimate that number of gun trunks in the hands of people in the USA. Get a fire all over North America. They will shoot a lot. Southern hooks - but not much.

[Blackmokona]

The USA has Canada, a clean copy of Siberia.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: BlackMokona

The USA has Canada, a clean copy of Siberia

The United States earn a dollar, but eat two.

[Blackmokona]

It is strange why they accumulated so much public debt, with a GDP of 16.8 trillion
To eat for two while earning a dollar, they must take 16.8 trillion in debt annually.

[Alexei]

And then the pigs from Israel and the wolf from Ukraine? (picture)

[atalef]

Quote: Alexej

And then the pigs from Israel and the wolf from Ukraine? (picture)

How?
Something Oleg, in general, was not previously seen in various phobias, but here?
Looks like a search for cheap popularity - here you have the pigs and Israel and Ukraine

[Glowworm]

Even Gerashchenko tried with all his might to enlighten our government - well, never mind investing in someone else's currency in order to boost its economy. It is necessary to directly raise their enterprises and train first-class Russian specialists in all areas of science and technology.

[marder4]

Quote: Firefly

Even Gerashchenko tried with all his might to enlighten our government - well, never mind investing in someone else's currency in order to boost its economy.

- Gerashchenko is generally a very smart man

[vitaz]

I represent dollars instead of toilet paper

[WInovikov]

And do not imagine. Too smooth and stiff.

[ia-ai00]

Yes, and not paper, but a solid CHEMISTRY, the priest will be offended ...

[rassel0889]

Europe and so the colony of the United States.

[LEVIAFAN]

Once, one of the Americans said that we are not the Soviet Union and will not allow ourselves to be strangled. So, dashing trouble began. We are on the eve of a grand schucher.

[lotar]

Unfortunately, in order for the dollar to cease to be a world currency, a lot needs to be done. And given that the Yankees will do everything to prevent this, then it will take indecent time for this if you use the standard steps.

[Vadim12]

It would be very, very cool! Green candy wrappers - a dangerous currency, everyone knows about this for a long time. And it’s time for America to erase. Relaxed completely, everywhere they consider themselves masters. Punish!

[parusnik]

but the war in Ukraine could escalate into the struggle of Europe for independence from the United States, and along the way into the battle against the dollar.
.. I wanted it to be so ..

[Stypor23]

Right now I went to this article, Israeli flags disappeared with wine.

[kodxnumx]

This is good news! The faster the United States deprives the dollar of leverage in the world, it will become much calmer.

[vadgen]

"Gazprom, crushed by sanctions, will lose the European market, and more expensive American LNG will come there."

For some reason, this horror story repeats itself over and over again, although it has long been known that there are not enough gas liquefaction and liquefying capacities in Europe or the United States either in Europe or in the USA, and there are no such number of gas carrier vessels that could to transport gas; moreover, in the world there are not enough shipbuilding enterprises of an appropriate orientation to build these ships.

[zoknyay82]

Hussein was hanged first. The second was Kadafi-brutally murdered. The third is the GDP, I hope in this case I found a scythe on a stone - Russia is not Libya and Iraq, Uncle Sam can suck in full.

[Fast]

It seems logical that in order to get rid of the dangerous hegemon in order to get peace and healthy international trade, you need to buy everything for Baku, and sell for your own, and use the national currency in the calculations of third countries. Personally, we still need to redeem all national shares and drive private capital home. What could be easier? The only obstacle is that all national currencies are pegged to the dollar, so is all national wealth (Read: for printed dollars the whole world can be bought up with giblets at any time, including all national currencies), what should I do? Third world?
After all, both the euro and the yuan and rubles are temporary, constantly depreciating coupons for a dollar, and nothing more. IMHO, I want to figure it out, and I'm probably not the only one.

[Sultan]

Indeed, there is a process of "de-dollarization" of national economies, which means a drop in demand for Indian candy wrappers. Naturally, the Indos are not happy about this ... They will no longer be able to print almost as much money as they want. This will cause a devaluation of the dollar throughout the world and hyperinflation in India. Remember how it was with us in the 90s? So there will be more than 100 times! I will watch and rejoice at the disintegration of the united provinces of the Indian subcontinent ... They will not need any Ukraine for ... they will have nowhere to put their Maydauns in concentration camps ...

[Andrey82]

The key to the issue of refusing Amer’s money in mutual settlements is the position of China, which has 2 trillion. amersky debt obligations in storage. Therefore, China is unlikely to bring down the finances of the North in the next year or two. America, presenting them for payment. After all, their economies are interdependent. China is a producer, USA is a consumer. For all attempts, our market will not be able to replace the amersky one for China.
Now, if we raise the real level of income 2-3 times per several. years old?! But this is a question for GDP stubbornly holding liberals in economic positions in government and the Central Bank.
Glazyev - at the premiere, or at least the ministers of economics.

[MSA]

Strange as it may be for Washington, M. Thomas concludes, but the war in Ukraine may develop into a European struggle for independence from the United States, and incidentally into a battle against the dollar.

Then it’s as if the Americans are in a pose ...

[Nyrobsky]

As one character said - "Greed has ruined the frayer." By imposing sanctions on Iran, the United States made it possible for it to trade well for gold and simply barter. Iran and Russia conclude a $ 20 billion deal - "oil for goods", where the green is resting on the sidelines. By imposing sanctions against Russia, the United States and Europe "achieved" the conclusion of a gas contract for 400 billion dollars, where, along the way, green will also be on the sidelines. The topic of creating such a payment unit as "ROUEN" is seriously discussed, which, unlike the green one, will be backed by gold, and therefore, will be willingly accepted by countries as payment .... Japan also supported the proposal to pay with the national currency. The BRICS countries create their own development fund instead of the IMF and the World Bank, and somehow it seems that in their calculations they will also move the dollar. In order not to stay on the sidelines, Europe will also give preference to its euro. Sensing the beginning of its end, the United States is trying hard to destabilize the situation around the world in order to attract real material values ​​of the countries caught up in the conflict zone as a safe financial haven. But only after the US tarnished its reputation with the gold of Germany, I doubt that someone would want to entrust these watchdogs with the most valuable. So the end is near - somewhere in 2015-2016, unless, of course, they ignite the fire of war more intensely ...

[mamont5]

That's all. A new monetary system will be established and the states will no longer be able to climb into the world pocket for money with impunity. And then ... "Where is the money, Zin?"

[Sasha 19871987]

It has long been clear to everyone that the dollar is not economically backed, it is only backed by American greed, arrogance and their "brave" army ...

[Fast]

As long as the reference point is dollar, nothing will change, well, they will receive less percent of transactions when calculating in national currencies on the quiet, which is compensated by the printing press. The dollar itself has long been sick with hyper inflation, but other currencies suffer more, and inflation does not affect anything inside. We need a new benchmark, the ideally golden BRICS currency, and, in the East, the cruel law of selling this currency. The BRICS currency should be internal, while expanding the community, it will squeeze out greens. Let there be two world currencies for a while. Before starvation, the euro is unlikely to part with the dollar, because the purchasing power of the euro in different countries is very different, the vacuum cleaner works, the euro is the viceroy and the policeman of the dollar in europe, the same a little less rank.

[Blackmokona]

Do you even know what hyperinflation is?

[muhomor]

So! If we suddenly collapse the dollar and it begins to rapidly depreciate, then what will become of our debtors? After all, we were lending dollars with one purchasing power, but to receive?

[kotyara]

So many people are dying because of those damned dollars!

[Kerzhak]

If there weren’t the USA, there would be almost no wars of the last 25 years. Therefore, the United States must be destroyed by humanity, like a cancerous tumor on the body of the Earth.

[shitovmg]

Quote: jonh

the dollar will collapse and China will suffer first. US debt to China will depreciate. and the United States will be the last to suffer. someone would not say anything and no tales would tell about the US industry. But this industry itself is huge in the United States. and if we take into account all the branches of corporations around the world, we get that half of the world is tied to the United States. and fairy tales about the printing press are just fairy tales. You cannot print as much money as you like for one simple reason. money is the equivalent of some material good. and dollars exactly as many as these material equivalents. printing just discounts paper if anyone is not in the know.

Theoretically - Yes! But as soon as the settlement procedure is violated, this will already be a blow to the system!

[vodolaz]

I wonder what will end in the end, but in any case, the Americans have something to strain on. And this cannot but rejoice.

[Drunya]

read, read and never understood to change my 10 bucks or wait

[Aleksey888]

Quote: Stypor23

Quote: Canep

Europe and others are not interested in trading in dollars and will soon abandon it

Only Europe is dancing to the tune of the Zaokens in Ukraine’s issue

It is not so much due to Ukraine. It is due to the fact that the gold and currency fund of Europe is kept in the states (let them try to return it)

[shelva]

It is high time to "lower" the dollar and with it the amerikosov - parasites, accustomed to live beautifully on their green candy wrappers.
Interesting - what will the world's largest debtor pay for the loan?