Proposal to resolve the situation in Ukraine

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Dear members of the forum, I propose to discuss your vision of the problem of resolving the situation in Ukraine as a proposal to the President of Russia.

Vladimir Vladimirovich, I suggest you consider the following version of the conclusion of peace in Ukraine. Now people in Ukraine have come to power with no understanding of honor and conscience, but with an excellent understanding of the words “benefit” and “mani”. Offer them to buy out the Lugansk and Donetsk regions from Ukraine for the debts to Gazprom, which, I believe, we will never get. We write off the debts of North Korea.

Here the conversation is about the lives of tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of people living on this earth. With their status - as part of Russia or in the form of independent states - they will determine themselves.

I think that in order to save lives, all options should be considered. Autumn is coming soon, people need to live on something, restore destroyed housing, infrastructure, and enterprises. From the Ukrainian side to wait for the cost of this is not necessary.

As part of one country, I think these people will no longer be able to live. So, this is a war for a long time. And if the refugee bill goes up to hundreds of thousands, millions, is our country ready to take on this burden?

In connection with the frequent attacks on our border settlements from the adjacent side and the lack of an adequate response from ours, it may soon be necessary for our inhabitants to flee.

Resetting debts to Russia and removing the burden of restoring infrastructure in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, I think, with a sober calculation, might be of interest to the Ukrainian leadership.

Let the Ukrainians, after signing documents with Europe, calmly engage in the construction of a new reality, without regard to the two rebellious areas. Moreover, a certain Vladislav Inozemtsev, doctor of economics, director of the Center for the study of post-industrial society, published an article:
http://rbcdaily.ru/politics/562949991794966#xtor=AL-[internal_traffic]--[rbc.ru]-[daily_body]-[item_1]. В неё он приводит аргументы к тому, что Украине с ЕС будет не так плохо, как рисуют наши средства массовой информации…
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  1. +10
    30 June 2014 09: 45
    Fake. Who will give it back? !!! They also need such a "cow".
    1. +10
      30 June 2014 09: 49
      Hmm ... Dear AUTHOR ... DO YOU CONSIDER OUR PRESIDENT SICK ...? Yes HE HEALTHY !!! Give GOD HEALTH !!!
      1. 0
        30 June 2014 22: 15
        I’m already used to reading VO articles of good quality, with a serious approach, thoughtful. Even if you do not agree, but respect the views of the authors. This article is trash. Read - froze in perplexity.
    2. +9
      30 June 2014 09: 52
      This land has already been sold to the Yankees.
      1. +3
        30 June 2014 10: 00
        Offer them to buy back Lugansk and Donetsk regions from Ukraine for debts to Gazprom, which, I believe, we will never receive. We are writing off the debts of North Korea.

        In North Korea, we have forgiven the debt for something free, through them the railway will go to South Korea and it seems to be part of a gas pipe! An offer to say frankly untrue, to give money to the junta, please!
        1. WKS
          0
          30 June 2014 15: 26
          Quote: Sid.74
          Offer them to buy back Lugansk and Donetsk regions from Ukraine for debts to Gazprom, which, I believe, we will never receive. We are writing off the debts of North Korea.

          I think that Kolomoisky’s activity in creating the Novorossiysk Kaganate is one of the final options and means the sale (unofficial) of these territories of Russia. In general, even if some deals, in the author’s proposed peaceful resolution of the crisis, are concluded, they will not be politicized, and a very narrow circle will be informed about them. In any case, the general public is unlikely to hear or learn something about them.
      2. +1
        30 June 2014 11: 11
        Quote from comprochikos
        This land has already been sold to the Yankees.

        Quote from comprochikos
        This land has already been sold to the Yankees.

        That's it! Do you, dear author, think that decades of preparation and many billions of dollars for this preparation will be "forgiven" by the United States to save the lives of those whom they do not even consider for people? Yes, and these debts were created, practically - by the United States ...
      3. WKS
        -2
        30 June 2014 15: 29
        We need Russia all of Ukraine, albeit in parts, but ALL.
      4. 3vs
        0
        1 July 2014 06: 40
        That's just the people living on this earth, forgot to say,
        that the earth is no longer yours.
    3. +3
      30 June 2014 11: 40
      Quote: a52333
      Fake. Who will give it back? !!! They also need such a "cow".


      You do not need to be either an idealist, a visionary or a pessimist. What has been brewed in Ukraine in the coming years will not be scooped up and will not resolve!
      Good analytics that awaits the ruin in the coming years -
      http://kv-journal.info/chto_budet_posle_peremiriya_poroshenko.html
      Before continuing the ATO, American advisers simply had to clearly and clearly lay in the scenario of a future war, at least, new risks and three obvious new emergency scenarios that were not there before:

      1. The scenario in which a partial failure of the ATO is foreseen, providing for real negotiations and some kind of compromise on the future structure of Ukraine, taking into account the interests of Russia and the population of the Southeast region.
      2. A scenario that provides for the possibility of a severe failure of the ATO in the Donbass, which could result in the group retreating to previously prepared positions outside the region.
      3. The failure scenario of the whole “Maidan” project, which provides, in addition to the complete defeat of the grouping in the Donbas and outside it, as well as the overthrow of the puppet pro-American authorities in Kiev. This is the most unpleasant story for Washington, which implies additional problems associated with the US withdrawal from the operation, with the stripping of its participants and the chopping off of political and legal ends.

      True, the author does not take into account and does not consider the main goal of the USA in Ukraine at present -
      - the suppression of the uprising in the SEI, squeezing out Russian-minded people into Russia. Exemption from them, with the destruction of cities and villages, lands with an adjoining shale gas. By the way, these territories have already been purchased by transnational corporations (Shell ...). The strategic goal is to reduce the population of Ukrainians by 10-15mln., Preferably, due to the social layer (old people, children, women). Leave the passionary part - the Bandera layer, for a possible war with the Russian Federation in the future.

      Well, if that fails - then yes, the 1-3 options ...
      1. 0
        1 July 2014 01: 07
        If we take in kind from Urkaina for debts, it is not land, but enterprises. Antonov, Motor Sich, Yuzhmash, Malyshev, Nikolaev shipyards ... And, first of all, the gas transportation system, so that they do not spill gas. But the pastry shops are just the last, you need to leave something for the development of the Euro-oriented economy. lol
        Cynical as it may seem, it’s better that they stay in the open. Salaries there are half that for a similar work paid in the Russian Federation, and with the fall of the hryvnia will be even lower. Almost like outsourcing to China, only at hand, white people, and understand the language. Again, social at the expense of the Kiev budget. And so what when to do it, to whom and how much to sell - the owners of private enterprises will privately decide, and the fact that the owners are sitting in Moscow - well, that’s how the card went, capitalism after all.
        1. 3vs
          0
          1 July 2014 06: 38
          Yes, you understand, not funny.
          We are talking about human lives.
          The faster the blood stops flowing there, the better.
          I think you need to consider all the options,
          no matter how ridiculous they may seem, maybe
          part of the strategy.
          Every day, people die.

          All such strategists!
          Well, offer Putin something worthwhile!
  2. -2
    30 June 2014 09: 50
    All the same, it will be cheaper to help the troops ...
    1. +1
      30 June 2014 11: 24
      Quote: agent xnumx
      All the same, it will be cheaper to help the troops ...

      It won't be cheaper, but why pay for something that already does not belong to Ukraine?
      Despite the fact that this issue will not even be considered, this is a direct political death of Poroshenko
    2. 0
      30 June 2014 22: 44
      Quote: agent xnumx
      All the same, it will be cheaper to help the troops ...

      Her Majesty will be pleased with you, m. they will give a garter.
  3. +1
    30 June 2014 09: 50
    You really hope for a positive response from the UKRS. Not that everything was reduced to absurdity to allow it to stop. The US goal is to permanently isolate Russia from Europe. And money doesn’t solve anything - it is paper that they can print in the required quantity and present, in the form of cookies, dry rations, fuel rods, etc.
  4. +3
    30 June 2014 09: 52
    The junta will not agree to such a proposal. Or break the astronomical price. The principle is important for them: at least I will not eat, but I bite.
    1. +1
      30 June 2014 09: 57
      For the sake of the principle, Putin is obliged to collect Ukraine’s debt in full, and the cancellation of the DPRK debts here is a different story.
  5. +9
    30 June 2014 09: 53
    Someone Vladislav Inozemtsev, argues that Ukraine and the EU will not be as bad as our media draw ...

    And someone V. Inozemtsev READ that Poroshenko signed? !!!
    I am citing an excerpt from the article "There is no place for Ukraine in Poroshenko's association with the EU"
    Let's start with the agricultural industry - the ridge of European integrators. Indeed, if in the case of heavy industry even they babble that it will take "some time for our enterprises to switch to European standards, then agricultural products, they say," Europe is already looking forward to. "

    Well, let's turn to the original source, i.e. to the text of the agreement on the Free Trade Zone of Ukraine with the EU, first translated and analyzed by Alexander Gorokhov, an expert specializing in economic analytics of cooperation between Ukraine and the European Union.

    And that’s what happens. If today a part of agricultural products sent for export to the European Union is subsidized by the state, then Article 32 of the Agreement prohibits any subsidization, including other (technical, material, organizational) assistance, which can be spent by someone as a hidden subsidy. For example, preferential prices for fuels and lubricants. At the same time, Article 40 retains for the EU states (and Ukraine’s membership is not mentioned in the Agreement) their right to a special regime for their own producers of agricultural products.

    The article 202 of the Agreement, which regulates the geographical signs of products, will deprive many manufacturers of the opportunity to produce products under the usual names (cheeses, alcoholic beverages, some meat products), which will force them to search for new names, conduct expensive advertising campaigns and reduce sales volumes: the buyer is reluctant to take unknown brands and varieties.

    221 article requires peasants to obtain permission to sell finished products and propagate various varieties of agricultural plants and livestock intended for sale. So, without buying permission, take no tomatoes to the bazaar, if their variety is patented, or sell chickens to a neighbor from imported highly productive layers. Not to mention the supplies to the European Union promised by the European integrators.

    However, with varieties and breeds permitted for cultivation for sale and preparation of products - a separate song. Their list is most strictly regulated by EU Directives, which have now adopted the force of law for Ukraine. Products made from cattle meat of the “wrong” breeds and “wrong” plant varieties will be closed not only to the European, but also to the domestic market. This means that some farmers and agricultural enterprises will have to completely destroy the livestock of livestock and poultry and purchase pedigree samples together with permits for their commercial use. Another is to eliminate the existing seed stock, trees, vines and acquire new ones without any guarantee that these varieties of plants will take root in the area. One can only guess how much time and money they will need to restore the previous level of production.
    1. +2
      30 June 2014 10: 02
      Do you think Parashyonka read this text of the agreement on the sale of Ukraine to the EU?
    2. +2
      30 June 2014 13: 44
      Hello, Elena.
      This associated membership is a very dangerous thing. Besides everything else, there is a food product protocol. It’s a bomb. Anything not included in the protocol will be banned for production. And there isn’t any favorite lard with garlic, condensed milk, pickles and a bunch of national food.
      I know because a friend lives in Italy in Coleriano and there, a whole diaspora from Ukraine takes their products to a local store once a week at work. Ukrainians do not like Italian food too much.
  6. +5
    30 June 2014 09: 53
    For three thousand years of the written history of mankind, in principle, nothing has changed.

    The words spoken by Camille, no one has yet been able to refute

    "The Romans are accustomed to saving their homeland not with gold, but with iron!"
    1. 0
      30 June 2014 22: 53
      Quote: Bakht
      "The Romans are accustomed to saving their homeland not with gold, but with iron!"
      There is also a story about kaklov. One Roman woman (from ukrov, ancient, essno) opened the gate and the ancient French entered the Roman fortress. The Gaul chief asked what she wanted in return. The girl said that "what they wear on their left hand" would suit her, having a precious bracelet in my walk. The French, as usual, got it all wrong, and piled on the poor heap of shields, ruining the striving for European values.
    2. 0
      30 June 2014 23: 07
      Quote: Bakht
      "The Romans are accustomed to saving their homeland not with gold, but with iron!"
      There is also a story about kaklov. One Roman woman (from ukrov, ancient, essno) opened the gate and the ancient French entered the Roman fortress. The Gaul chief asked what she wanted in return. The girl said that "what they wear on their left hand" would suit her, having a precious bracelet in my walk. The French, as usual, got it all wrong, and piled on the poor heap of shields, ruining the striving for European values.
  7. avt
    +1
    30 June 2014 09: 54
    “Due to the increased shelling of our border settlements from the adjacent side and the lack of an adequate response from our side, our residents may soon have to flee." ------- request It doesn’t seem like it’s better to turn off the computer and go into the fresh air, take a quick walk of about 10 kilometers, then stand for a while - look at nature and its natural colors, otherwise you can talk about it. wassat And to the hospital.
    1. 3vs
      0
      1 July 2014 06: 46
      So you ask the locals how they with broken fragments
      the roofs?
      And now an attempt will go to completely block the border,
      I think such "gifts" will start pouring into border villages more often,
      and our Foreign Ministry will write out protest notes, as it should be.
  8. +2
    30 June 2014 09: 55
    However, the presence of permitted breeds and varieties does not guarantee that their products will gain access to the markets. The directives specified in Annexes XXXVII and IV-B to the Agreement (there are more than three dozen of them) and EU standards (several hundred) regulate, for example, livestock conditions, the list and composition of feed and additives to them, the vaccination procedure and the list of medicines, rules for transporting livestock, the procedure for slaughtering and storing the resulting meat. Even the list and qualifications of specialists involved in the cultivation of this cattle. The same applies to plant production, where even the spread of product sizes and deviations in its shape play a role. For example, to the great happiness of European farmers, in 2013 the ban on the sale of slightly curved cucumbers was lifted.

    Mandatory labeling and packaging, in which agricultural products can be sold, are also regulated. Moreover, all of it must undergo mandatory certification. And not at the regional SES or at the village veterinarian, but at specialized independent certification centers equipped for each type of agricultural product with a strictly defined set of testing instruments and equipment. There are currently no such certification centers in Ukraine. Therefore, until the moment they appear, not a single rural enterprise, not a single farmer can penetrate European markets. And after three or four years, it will not be able to sell its products at all even on the domestic market.

    Tales of unhindered access to the European market are shattered to another obstacle inherent in the European regulatory framework, which Ukraine is obliged to implement as laws. These are guaranteed minimum volumes of production with which the farmer can try to conquer Europe. Such volumes can provide far from every large enterprise, not to mention the ordinary farmer. Therefore, if anyone tries to trade with the EU, then it’s only resellers. And it is not worth building illusions about who exactly, dealers or manufacturers, will get the lion's share of the benefits of trade with the European Union.
    Read fully here - http://versii.com/blogs/63/321/
    1. 0
      30 June 2014 15: 14
      Quote: Egoza
      However, the presence of permitted breeds and varieties does not guarantee that their products will gain access to the markets. The directives specified in Annexes XXXVII and IV-B to the Agreement (there are more than three dozen of them) and EU standards (several hundred) regulate, for example, livestock conditions, the list and composition of feed and additives to them, the vaccination procedure and the list of medicines, rules for transporting livestock, the procedure for slaughtering and storage of meat obtained Even the list and qualifications of specialists involved in the cultivation of this cattle. The same applies to plant production, where even the spread of product sizes and deviations in its shape play a role.

      All these laws are written so that you can legally terminate the contract and sometimes they are very strange!
      He worked in a Finnish company, so we had to order satellite images of the territory on which the forest was cut for the supply of lumber, in fact, we proved that this forest was not cut in the nature conservation zone.
      There was another strange case.
      We were asked to find a technology for removing mercury from wood. The boss was very annoyed by what kind of technology, since mercury gets into the wood ??
      The answer was also a match for the question. This is natural mercury that gets into the wood when it grows.
      And there may be hundreds of such oddities in contracts.
  9. StepanovTDSM
    +1
    30 June 2014 09: 57
    Firstly, how do you imagine the ransom of the technical areas? Secondly, Ukrainians do not rule, but Amerokos, they do not need money. In short delusional proposal.
  10. +2
    30 June 2014 09: 57
    Yes ... The picture turns out to be drawn by oats. But Rubens and Raphael fools tried oil! So it seems praised the actions of gunners O. Bender.
  11. +1
    30 June 2014 09: 58
    Dear Author. hi
    Your proposal is absurd for two reasons.
    1. Yatsenyuk at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada let slip that the Donetsk and Luhansk regions give a very large amount of currency to the budget (these are the so-called "subsidized" regions), so Ukraine NEEDS them.
    2. What's the point of forgiving the "gas" debt?
    I think that the President of Russia has long been thinking about this issue. It was not for nothing that he asked the Federation Council to revoke permission to send troops to Ukraine. winked
    New Russia is NOT UKRAINE bully
  12. +2
    30 June 2014 10: 02
    Quote from comprochikos
    This land has already been sold to the Yankees.

    The Americans only promised to give money for her and promised not to touch those who would not bother them.
  13. +1
    30 June 2014 10: 15
    they can sell, only at what price ... if the war was started from behind the territory, then no one will sell it
  14. Fin
    0
    30 June 2014 10: 17
    Brad writes this professor:
    A promising - and undoubtedly achievable - goal of this process is Ukraine's accession to the EU and the return of Kiev to a single European family, from which it was torn out in the XNUMXth century.

    Not a single statistical calculation, only svidomye expectations of a better life. There is not even a hint of how the economy will rise.
    1. 3vs
      0
      1 July 2014 06: 50
      Well, so this friend Kondratiev, the second, probably thinks.
  15. +1
    30 June 2014 10: 17
    Russia does not sell people! am
  16. +1
    30 June 2014 10: 17
    "Now people have come to power in Ukraine without notions of honor and conscience, but with an excellent understanding of the words" profit "and" money. "Offer them to buy the Luhansk and Donetsk regions from Ukraine for debts to Gazprom"

    Alas, without denying the above qualities of the current rulers of Ukraine, let me remind you that they do not solve anything global in their country. Zits Chairman Fuchs is their predecessor. The owners of these people are overseas and they are unlikely to agree to such a deal.
  17. +1
    30 June 2014 10: 19
    The Ukrainian leadership does not need Novorossia, they want to destroy it. So, they are not interested in the financial formation of these territories. If they were interested, they would not destroy the plants. It is also impossible to offer to buy Novorossia, then Russia will act as the initiator of the partition of Ukraine. This step should be taken by the West and he will do it. Ukraine already owes to the West and further debt will only grow. That's when the West will demand to pay the land, then Russia and put forward their claims. And the southeast of Ukraine will go to Russia, and the western territories will go to other countries of Poland, Hungary, Germany and so on. The worst thing is that during this time people will die.
  18. +2
    30 June 2014 10: 26
    if it is redeemed at the expense of debts, then where are the guarantees that in a couple of years they won’t scream that it was all illegal, that the territory belonged to them ... but there is no debt for gas either! ... you can only soak these freaks in the toilet! only by decapitating a colomoyka, parashenka, timothy, nicknames, eggs and their henchmen, and for one and a black-legged democratic monkey - only this can achieve world peace! there will be no State Department and NATO - there will be peace in all countries and mutual understanding!
    1. +1
      30 June 2014 11: 31
      They buy slaves, and they defend freedom with weapons in their hands ...
    2. The comment was deleted.
  19. 0
    30 June 2014 10: 28
    therefore, the goal for world peace is the same - the collapse of the US economy, the depreciation of the dollar, the collapse of the United States into separate small states along state borders! finally collapsing the US economy, they will begin such a maidan ... Ukrainians will envy!
  20. +1
    30 June 2014 10: 40
    Cut the money in Ukraine Piglet and Co. ... it will soon hurt ...
  21. 0
    30 June 2014 10: 53
    Now people have come to power in Ukraine without the concepts of honor and conscience, but with an excellent understanding of the words "profit" and "mani". Offer them to buy back Lugansk and Donetsk regions from Ukraine for debts to Gazprom, which, I believe, we will never receive.

    Powder is not a suicide. In the case of not even accepting such a proposal, but only beginning the discussion, his life and property will not be worth a penny. Maydauns immediately throw him off.
    1. tokin1959
      +3
      30 June 2014 11: 19
      if we don't get the debts, then they must be "knocked out".
      try to owe the bank several thousand rubles - they will get it.
      and here we are talking about tens of billions of dollars.
      this money could be spent in Russia.
      and it turns out they were given just like that to a hostile state.
      they don’t want to repay money - let them repay territories.
      dill in general has become insolent - shelling is already taking place on Russian territory, special forces in the Rostov region are walking around at home, they are shooting Russian citizens, the head of our state is called obscene by official dill, they don’t pay money, but they also promise to take away Crimea and the Kuban.
      there are plenty of reasons to destroy Ukraine with aviation.
      dill is impudent every day, what are we waiting for? dill tanks in Moscow.
      Will they still indulge for a long time?
  22. +2
    30 June 2014 12: 07
    in addition to the gas, there is still just a debt, even 3 lard in December ....
    further 2 areas, and the rest from Novorossia ??? the same Dnepropetrovsk?
    and also the structure of relations, Donetsk mines, Kharkiv-VPK, and Dnepropetrovsk metallurgy .. and also a hydroelectric power station, .. it's all closely connected and one can exist without a great deal of creaking ....
    with kandochka will not work .....
    as for lives and people, well, everyone or at least many can make room, I have a three-ruble note, heterosexual children, and I allocated one room - I took a family of 3 people, who contribute to employment ... yes it’s a little uncomfortable, but darker, in crowded place no offense ... and every day-calls- accept accept accept- already taken, not rubber, unfortunately ....
    grief among people, put yourself in their place, you can make room, the Russians don’t leave theirs, start with yourself
  23. Starmos
    0
    30 June 2014 12: 20
    Quote: maxxdesign
    there will be no State Department and NATO - there will be peace in all countries and mutual understanding!

    Quote: maxxdesign
    therefore, the goal for world peace is the same - the collapse of the US economy, the depreciation of the dollar, the collapse of the United States into separate small states along state borders! finally collapsing the US economy, they will begin such a maidan ... Ukrainians will envy!

    The heads of transnational corporations and other representatives of the so-called "world government", whose interests are represented by the "white house", Brussels, the Hague and the United Nations with all their departments will never allow this. Their plans include the destruction of us as a nation and state, the destruction of the axis of the "Russian World". You have designated the wrong goals, comrade. It is necessary to beat on others: the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, Fords and Morgan, the British and other royal houses, the highest aristocracy and bankers of Geyrop and Psakistan. These are the true enemies of our People. And no diplomacy will help here. And there will be no partnership - they will be deceived ... They want to destroy Us - We must destroy them. And it WILL NOT be otherwise ...
  24. 0
    30 June 2014 13: 12
    Yes, you are just a provocateur!
  25. 3vs
    +1
    30 June 2014 13: 26
    People, thanks for the response!

    Honestly, there is no peace in the soul from Maidan.
    As Seraphim Sarovsky used to say - "Acquire the spirit of peace and thousands around you will be saved."
    From all that is happening, instead of peace, some kind of malice is accumulating and there is no way out of this situation.
    Putting yourself in the shoes of refugees, what do they do?
    Where will they go from tents in the fall?
    He offered his way out of the situation, probably it is impossible.
    Offer your way out, discuss.
    1. -1
      30 June 2014 19: 09
      For me it’s better if Russia declares for the gas debt and moral damage from bouncing mandanoid that the entire GTS with the territories adjacent to it becomes the property of the peoples of Russia. Yes, on the next (or better on the same) day, a certain number of Polite will be sent there for safekeeping.
  26. 0
    30 June 2014 13: 59
    Uraaa brothers, freedom came to Kuev !!! From common sense ....
  27. Starmos
    0
    30 June 2014 14: 34
    Quote: Jurkovs
    Yes, you are just a provocateur!

    Sorry, who are you? If to me, then explain.
    1. 3vs
      +1
      30 June 2014 16: 15
      This is he to me.
      I'm not a provocateur, it's just hard to see how everyday
      Russian people will never die!
  28. 0
    30 June 2014 14: 35
    some nonsense, not otherwise fool
  29. -1
    30 June 2014 14: 45
    amazing myopia
    1. 3vs
      +1
      30 June 2014 16: 17
      Suggest your option, except how to send troops
      to the whole territory of Ukraine and destroy all those who disagree.
      1. 0
        30 June 2014 17: 38
        Quote: 3vs
        Suggest your option, except how to send troops
        to the whole territory of Ukraine and destroy all those who disagree.

        Isn’t it easier to recognize the DPR and LPR (or immediately the LDP) and enter into a military-political alliance with them? And also diplomatic relations (like Southeast Military District) and the economic union? In order to disperse the forces of already decayed Ukraine, recognize the independence of Transnistria, Gagauzia and the Subcarpathian Rusyns.
        1. 3vs
          +1
          30 June 2014 19: 24
          I’m for this, but the supreme authority has some plans of its own,
          we are not aware.
  30. +3
    30 June 2014 14: 50
    Proposal to resolve the situation in Ukraine, are you completely crazy about the robbery and murders unleashed in the South-East by the junta, call it a situation? The first and most important thing is that for a settlement in Novorossiya it is necessary to break the "banderlog" so that they are afraid not only to look at the South-East, but also to talk about it only in a whisper and at night under a blanket! And when this punitive evil spirits are thrown out, the situation will disappear by itself - along with them! But for the shelling of the Russian territory, it's time to ask from these monsters in full, and why are there troops at the border - to repel aggression and protect our citizens!
  31. lenamir
    0
    30 June 2014 15: 09
    What are we all smart, and then what are we so poor? !!! How long will this chaos continue in Ukraine? !!!!!!!
  32. +2
    30 June 2014 15: 29
    The author suggests solving the problem with the help of money. Of course, alternatives should be considered and discussed. But you look at reality, legal and homosexuals want to fight and they do not need money. If from a position of money, it will be much cheaper to hire professionals to feed this pack of war.
  33. 0
    30 June 2014 15: 38
    The author somehow lost sight of what Putin would have to tell Gazprom shareholders about lost profits, because there, too, not the boys from the Sunday choir are sitting
    1. 3vs
      +1
      30 June 2014 16: 22
      I thought about it.
      This money will have to be paid to shareholders from the state pocket.
      On theft, cutting state. orders, etc. much more is lost.
  34. Pentarhist
    0
    30 June 2014 16: 00
    You can sign a petition-
    Sent to: President of the Russian Federation, Supreme Commander-in-Chief V.V. Putin.
    I urge the organization of the creation of Volunteer units in the fight against genocide in Ukraine.
    Author:
    Yury zolotarev
    Chelyabinsk, Russian Federation
    Unfortunately, the web address could not be fully copied. Start-
    http://www.change.org/ru/
    1. 3vs
      +1
      30 June 2014 16: 25
      Please: http://letters.kremlin.ru/
      Write.
      For the collapse of the Union, we pay a very expensive price with the lives of Russian people!
  35. +1
    30 June 2014 16: 01
    but now we, as normal associate members, will smell the real camembert and collect labels from the Chateau Cheval Blanc.
  36. Pentarhist
    0
    30 June 2014 16: 36
    https://vk.com/polkdonbassa
    Help to militias -
    PEOPLE'S MILITARY DONBASS (Pavel Gubarev)
    [email protected] NOD headquarters. Phones for militias in Russia 8(926)428-99-51, 8(967)171-27-09.
  37. 0
    30 June 2014 17: 23
    The fact that the DPR and LPR will not live together with the Nazis at all and will never be clear as God's day. This is equivalent to the fact that if in one apartment or communal apartment, one someone killed the family of his neighbor and then offered to live together as if nothing had happened.
    And buy back is help the oligarchs make money and sell people like things. No, the author shouldn’t be like that!
    1. 3vs
      +1
      30 June 2014 17: 43
      And no one offers to sell people.
      It is proposed to gag the money with these freaks and
      stop the war in these areas, start rebuilding
      destroyed.
      We at least pull them out.
      They don’t fight in other regions, they’re not destroying anything yet, they are sitting on the priest exactly.
      I think they will continue to sit until riots begin by autumn
      with payment of utility bills, non-payment of salaries, etc.
  38. 0
    30 June 2014 18: 54
    I put an iron minus. Especially for the reference to the "misdirected" economist.
    Utopia ...... Alaska No. 2, just the opposite.
    1. 3vs
      0
      30 June 2014 19: 33
      And I just wanted to present the point of view of the "fifth" column,
      this economist so beautifully depicts the future of Ukraine in association with the EU!

      You know, the pros and cons, this is such a stupid thing, at least get the hang of it.
      Only people die every day.

      These are already watered with mines in the temples.
      Some animals.
  39. 0
    30 June 2014 18: 59
    Dear And how do you like Putin’s peace plan: to transfer the Donbass under the control of the “near-Kremlin Jews” while formally maintaining the jurisdiction of “Ukraine”. Putin's “peace plan for Ukraine” began to take on the expected features http://communitarian.ru/novosti/politika/plan_putina_peredat_donbass_pod_upravle
    nie_oklokremlevskih_evreev_pri_formalnom_sohranenii_yurisdikcii_ukrainy_30062014
    /
  40. 0
    30 June 2014 19: 11
    Sorry, maybe it’s not quite a topic, for all these troubles about Ukraine, it seems that what is happening in Altai is no longer relevant. After all, this is also a disaster ... With all due respect to the civilians of Ukraine, it may be time to remember what is happening in the flood zone .. Try to find out how much is left without a roof over your head not in Donetsk, but in Altai (there are no such statistics) - maybe it’s time to stop the tantrum about Ukraine and remember Altai is a region of Russia - because our people are there, we live in Russia ... There, after all, tens of thousands have lost their roof over their heads and nothing, Lugansk and Donetsk, and where is Altai.
    1. 3vs
      0
      30 June 2014 19: 51
      Yes, no one forgets about it; last year the Far East was flooded.
      Of course, no one disputes the tragedy.

      It's just that when women and children are killed,
      tearing people into pieces by mines, our compatriots,
      Let now living in a breakaway piece of the Russian Empire,
      this must somehow end!
  41. koshh
    0
    30 June 2014 20: 15
    Quote: "Offer them to buy the Luhansk and Donetsk regions from Ukraine for debts to Gazprom, which, I believe, we will never receive."

    First, where did the author get the idea that GAZPROM will not receive debts? And secondly, why should we pay for something that belongs not to the Okrainsk government, but to the Republic of Novorossiya? We will receive our 16,6 billion dollars, and if we forgive anything, it is the recognized republic of Novorossia, with the border near Lviv and the capital, as before, in Kharkov.
  42. +2
    30 June 2014 20: 26
    "Cool article". Like the author's train of thought. Buy back for debts Novorossiya. This is for 4 billion. Why waste time on trifles, put another "twenty" on top, and get our hands on it, what else do we need?
    1. 3vs
      +1
      30 June 2014 21: 37
      Such a thought - or immediately return all debts for gas, for paid,
      but not shipped equipment or dumped from the territory of Lugansk and
      Donetsk regions, we will forgive you debts, download further to Europe.

      The longer it lasts, the bolder these scum will be
      act.
      Already chemical weapons are used.
      What further to wait, these are some animals.
      People die every day.
      Ours now with the OSCE on the border "control" will be of some kind
      come up with.
      In fact, nothing is offered.
      How many 7 million live there.
      Let's wait until all seven million refugees come to Russia?
      This is not bad, of course, the demography in the country is not wonderful,
      but then what did our grandfathers die for, what are the guys fighting for now?
      1. stranik72
        -1
        30 June 2014 22: 10
        It proposes to protect our GDP (our Russian border) together with the banderlogs and the OSCE, this is almost beyond the border. The second step in GDP to start shooting at New Russia? To make it even clearer to us all who are HU.
  43. 0
    30 June 2014 21: 17
    Dear 3vs Author
    you seem to live in Russia and forget
    that Russians are not only in the south of Ukraine
    what's wrong with us then?
    Buy back?
    1. 3vs
      0
      30 June 2014 21: 46
      Yes, Russians live all over the ball, and the Far East is naked.
  44. 0
    30 June 2014 23: 13
    In Moscow, hung billboards with Poroshenko

    reference: http://novorossia.su/ru/node/3337

    laughing
  45. 0
    1 July 2014 02: 30
    They have already sold everything to the Americans!
  46. 0
    1 July 2014 03: 17
    Quote: kartalovkolya
    The first and most important thing is that for a settlement in Novorossiya it is necessary to break the "banderlog" so that they are afraid not only to look at the South-East, but also to talk about it only in a whisper and at night under a blanket! And when this punitive evil is thrown out, the situation will disappear by itself - along with them!


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