Interview with the Commander of the Artillery of the Israel Defense Forces

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Interview with the Commander of the Artillery of the Israel Defense Forces

Questions from NEWSru.co.il were answered by the commander of Israeli artillery Roy Riftin. 46-year-old brigadier general with a law degree, admits that he did not think about the military career, and in this branch of the army came by accident.

Our interlocutor, having begun his service as a private soldier, went through all the steps, commanded the northern artillery brigade during the Second Lebanon War, then served in the General Staff, and then served as head of the planning department of the ground forces command.

What are the challenges facing the IDF artillery at the beginning of the XXI century?

There are a lot of them. First of all, this is the development of human potential, both recruits and officers. We do not particularly attract attention to ourselves, we are limited in self-advertisement, and after leaving Lebanon this problem worsened. We do a lot, but it remains invisible, including by virtue of secrecy.

In 80-90, we woke up in the morning, fired several projectiles at targets in Lebanon, hit the headlines, and were happy with life. Now every projectile fired is a whole story. The recent return shelling of Lebanese territory was an example of the complex world in which we live.

When in Syria applied chemical weapon, then artillery units from different parts of the country were pulled to the northern border. This means that the gunners live in the dual world: on the one hand, they do the same work as the infantry, on the other - for a short time they must be ready to use their guns and missiles.

Among the tasks facing the IDF there are those that only artillery can solve. As for the Syrian front, we must respond with utmost precision to the shelling of Israeli territory. Even on occasional shelling, which in fact does not always turn out to be "random", it is necessary to respond. Responsibility for this is borne, first of all, by our observers and fire coordinators.

In Gaza, artillery is also responsible for opening fire The fact that practically only artillerymen serve at the command posts responsible for the "fire" allows you to fully utilize the potential. Our officers will involve both the Air Force and other types of troops.

Artillery is now used very rarely on the Lebanese border. But both in the north and in the Gaza Strip area, and in Eilat, gunners serve multipurpose radar installations. We transmit data on the shelling of the warning systems of the civilian population, and those who should "deal" with the shooters. In the last year, this has been done by a specially created division for finding targets.

Another task of artillery is the use of small UAVs. We started this two years ago and the value drones growing all the time. At the "battalion-brigade" level, a whole system of small UAVs "Sky Rider" has been created. The demand for these aircraft is huge. On every front there are calculations that are constantly involved.

If we take one plane from someone, in a minute I’m already cutting off the phone. "Sky Rider" is reminiscent of a model airplane, it is launched like a slingshot. In fact, this is the pinnacle of military technology, which, despite the spread of UAVs around the world, has no world analogues.

How will artillery develop in the foreseeable future?

If you look to the future, I want to remind you of the human factor again. To use these technologies, we need capable people. Of course, most will have to use guns, which requires, rather, physical, rather than intelligent data. But the intellect is necessary for the artilleryman.

We are also looking for people with high motivation. First and foremost, we must educate commanders with operational horizons. We teach battery commanders to think in brigade scale. In war they will have to do it, which requires special qualities.

As regards the development of the military branch, we are aware that the world and the tasks before us have changed. We have the means to deal with the masses tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantrymen. But the main threat does not come from them. The enemy is invisible, he appears for a short period and disappears again. Our task is to provide him with a meeting with things that explode. The task is not simple and interesting.

In your opinion, are you developing a new artillery doctrine or are you bringing the old one into line with the requirements of time?

In my opinion, I rather bring it in line with new realities. In the past, artillery had the task to more or less accurately bring down to the enemy a mass of fire. Now accuracy is central. If earlier we fired rocket attacks on the squares, now the same installations launch missiles that, with a range of 35, have an accuracy of up to five meters and are capable of destroying what is needed.

Another important aspect is cheapness, because we need a significant number of missiles. With a large saturation of fire weapons, I can attach volley fire units to divisions, not districts, as it was before. This shortens the reaction time. The platoon, seeing the threat, can request artillery support - and immediately get it. Within five minutes, a missile is launched at the designated target.

One of the main lessons of the Second Lebanon War is that, although we rely on the “long arm” of the Israeli air force, ground forces need their own fire support, which can level the two-story house and crush the center of resistance.

Accuracy is now needed and projectiles. We began to equip them with satellite guidance systems that provide accuracy up to five meters. After all, when the enemy appears and disappears, I must destroy him with one shot. No second chance, missed - missed. Tests of these munitions should be completed in the 2015 year, and in 2016 projectile will go into service.

As far as I know, this is not a unique development.

Similar systems exist in other armies, but none of them reaches such accuracy as ours. We strive for accuracy to be even less than five meters, and this is a very difficult task. But the work is progressing well, and this is encouraging.

The IDF still uses artillery systems developed by 30-40 years ago, and you talk to me about developments that can be called futuristic. Is this a contradiction?

Our task is to integrate computerized fire control systems with the hard physical work of artillery crews, so that at the right moment to launch the projectile that is needed, for the purpose that is necessary. Much of the tactical work is performed at the battalion level, the artillery officers assigned to the battalions are responsible for it. Previously, they were engaged only in coordinating cannon artillery, now this is not enough. To use our full potential, coordination calculations of several people are required.

We want to combine the firepower of the ground forces and the Air Force at the battalion level, but for this we need a more serious coordination mechanism, with personnel who can use artillery, and Aviation. People are trained on special simulators, which can significantly reduce financial costs, as well as set the most difficult tasks during the training of officers. Then in combat conditions they will know what to do - this will be brought to automaticity.

With all the importance of artillery systems, it is much more important what they shoot and where they fall. Say, the M-270 rocket launcher on the Bradley chassis, which debuted during the company "Desert Storm," still does the job, and you should not write it off. We will improve it a bit, install the latest missiles - and everything perfectly goes where it should be.

As for the guns - this is a painful question. Towed artillery, we will soon withdraw gradually from the staffing, we say M-71 "goodbye." This is a reliable, accurate artillery system of Israeli origin, which is in service with other countries. We are proud of her, but her time has passed.

Our main gun - M-109 since the Vietnam War. In my opinion, and her time is running out. We are now deciding which system will replace it. Priority - more firepower, but fewer guns. Modern technology allows self-charging rapid-fire installations to conduct intense, accurate and long-range fire. If the current guns require an 10 man of calculation, then a new one needs four. Artillery is becoming more economical and more efficient.

Caliber will remain the same?

Yes, it will be a gun with a caliber 155 mm, with a barrel length 52 caliber, fully automated, integrated with the CALR system - "computerized ground forces". The range will be 35 kilometers. This will use conventional ammunition. This will reduce the number of artillery without reducing its effectiveness.

Here I am talking about the long term. Even if we finish the development in the next couple of years, it will take about twenty years to replace the entire artillery park. But the IDF is aware of the need for this measure. Such guns, located outside the battlefield and firing accurate ammunition, do not have to move a lot. They will be integrated into the communications network. This will make full use of our potential on the battlefield.

In May we are holding the third international conference on firepower. Its main theme will be the use of networks for fire control in a changing environment. After all, the task is to combine the potential of modern electronic communications with the traditional ballistic characteristics of artillery systems.

The conference will be attended by representatives of the armed forces of various countries, defense enterprises and academia. Our partners have a great interest in the conference. This applies to the western world and eastern countries. In the past, her work was very successful, because participants exchange experiences both in combat and in training.

In the Russian tradition, artillery is called the "God of War." Its commanders often wore epaulets with marshal stars. Your rank is a brigadier general. Does this indicate the place of artillery in the IDF combat schedule?

Firepower occupies a central place in the Israeli military doctrine. If you look at the training of the armed forces, you see how much resources are allocated for this. As for the question of my rank - we are a young army. But I want to remind you that two representatives of artillery occupied high positions in the General Staff, and Dan Arel was the Deputy Chief of the General Staff. So everything is fine.

A few months ago, Defense Minister Moshe ("The Gods") Ya'alon declared that the era of battles, similar to those of the Doomsday War, had come to an end. As far as this revolution in military affairs touched artillery?

A significant part of our combat schedule is reservists, who were trained for what can be defined as "wars of the past." So really, both mentally and from the point of view of the material part, these units are more suitable for them. We have to spend a lot of energy in order to bring spare parts in line with new realities.

I am convinced that we should not forget about our traditional role in the conventional conflict. The world around us is constantly changing in the most radical way, so you need to prepare for traditional military operations, not to lose the accumulated experience, which, moreover, will be difficult to restore.

Although, along with missiles and projectiles, we have both UAVs and other technological means, I believe that the most difficult task of artillery is the fire support of units operating on the battlefield. And if the coordinators of the fire can cope with this task, they will be on the shoulder and control of an artillery system that inflicts a point strike on targets more typical for conflicts of a new type.

Artillery plays the role of an important deterrent. When we hear in the newsthat the IDF responded with artillery fire, this usually means that the confrontation has reached a new level. How do you balance the fine line between the battlefield and politics?

Indeed, artillery will be used not only to destroy the enemy, but also to demonstrate that it is better not to touch us. A show of strength is when you let your opponent know that you are serious. It should be borne in mind that the enemy is firing from populated areas, and we cannot use the mass of fire as a deterrent. We have to look for other ways.

Israel maintains neutrality in the civil war in Syria, but at the same time, the IDF artillery has to open fire on Syrian territory. Cannons also respond to rocket attacks from Lebanese territory. To what extent does this duality affect the deployment of forces?

We open fire only on positions from which Israeli territory was fired, fully aware of the complexity of the situation. Our goal is very limited - to suppress the firing point. We must not allow such an incident to escalate into a serious conflict.

How do guns, volley fire systems and UAVs function under the same roof? Why did systems like the Sky Rider appear to be under artillery?

The main reason is that we are able to use a variety of weapons systems. But the example of the IDF was contagious - now other countries are emulating us. Artillery is constantly striving to minimize response time to a request for fire support. To do this, you need to collect everything under the same roof, so that those who are observing, and those who shoot, speak the same language. The Heavenly Horseman, whose initial task is to monitor the situation on the battlefield in real time and transfer data to the battalion commander, is now also used to coordinate the fire.

It also allows you to find out what is happening "on the opposite slope of the hill", in the "dead zones", which turn out to be especially significant during the battles in the village. The surface of the earth is not the best place to observe the battlefield. UAVs allow you to conduct effective fire on the second and third line of houses. And when artillerymen studying the same courses are engaged in everything, everything proceeds much more smoothly. So when we took on this project, we didn’t even fully realize what opportunities it provides.

For the same reason, we are so effectively using radar installations - everyone speaks the same, "artillery" language, uses our communication system. This greatly simplifies the process.

You paint a picture of a super-modern kind of military, but among conscripts, he is not particularly popular. You yourself admitted that you fell into the artillery by chance. How do you solve the problem of motivation?

Even those who did not aspire to artillery, being here, come to the conclusion that they were lucky that this is an excellent duty station. Our task as commanders is to convince them of this. Indeed, we do not make up faces with protective colors, we are not shown on TV or in newspapers. But when you get into the course of a young fighter in “Shivta”, you see who your colleagues are, you study modern, interesting equipment, you realize what an important role you have to play on the battlefield. And we must pay tribute to the management of personnel, which sends to us recruits with the necessary intellectual level. And I take the motivation. The fact that we have a big competition for officer positions.

Separately, it is worth noting that girls also serve here. We are constantly trying to open up new opportunities for them, many of them become officers. In one of the battalions of volley fire in six months there will be three combatants - women. It happened by chance, not because we were striving for it. Appointment received the best.

Probably the most tragic episode in the history of the IDF artillery was the shelling of Kafr Kana during Operation Grapes of Wrath. Then more than 100 people died. Are you learning this experience?

Of course, this is unacceptable. Lessons were learned from this case, one of which is the need for the coordination of fire as accurate as possible and shooting as accurate as possible. This is especially important when military operations are conducted in an area where there are settlements, civilians. We are doing everything possible so that this does not happen again, but unfortunately I cannot guarantee this.

Interviewed by Pavel Vigdorchik

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  1. +2
    28 June 2014 07: 12
    Of course, this is unacceptable. Lessons were learned from this case, one of which is the need for the coordination of fire as accurate as possible and shooting as accurate as possible. This is especially important when military operations are conducted in an area where there are settlements, civilians. We are doing everything possible so that this does not happen again, but unfortunately I cannot guarantee this.

    As they beat, they will beat. But regret, even if only in words, But in words - what is the difference with dill.
    1. +1
      28 June 2014 07: 30
      Hi Vadim!
      A guy looks like my dad ....
      1. +2
        28 June 2014 08: 05
        Hello, Sergey. And real men are all somewhat similar. This one in the photo is real, albeit Israeli.
  2. +4
    28 June 2014 07: 15
    We teach battery commanders to think in scale teams.
    Yes, is that not the secret of the IDF victories?
    1. -3
      28 June 2014 07: 28
      Probably not. Rather - in the fact that the battery commanders "stupidly" carry out the assigned tasks.
      1. MACCABI TLV
        +8
        28 June 2014 10: 22
        Quote: tanit
        Probably not. Rather - in the fact that the battery commanders "stupidly" carry out the assigned tasks.

        it is strange that you saw a contradiction in this
        Quote: tanit
        We teach battery commanders to think in scale teams.

        something like this is the order "Guys, tomorrow in the Khirbat Kseif district in Y. Livan, a special forces unit of the General Staff will be introduced. Your task is that at the entrance and exit to a given point, the guys were reliably covered with fire, so that not one Hezbollon did not break through to them "
        That is, the task will be "stupidly" performed, but how, by what forces, by what tactics, this is already for consideration by the battery commander.
        1. -1
          28 June 2014 12: 23
          It is strange that you saw a contradiction. I, like any military man of any country, am "delighted". Like any normal person, an indignant ... And that's all about Israel.
          Sincerely.
          1. +2
            28 June 2014 14: 17
            Quote: tanit
            And that's all about Israel
            You are about Thomas, and you are about Erema. You can "stupidly" perform the assigned tasks as long as you know exactly what and how to do. But there are situations in which there is no clarity, there is no time to report upstairs about your stupidity and, accordingly, there is no certainty. That's when you need to think quickly and accurately. This means that you need to define and clarify your task yourself, and for this, in turn, you need to arbitrarily look at the situation through the eyes of your superiors.
  3. KC4E
    +2
    28 June 2014 07: 24
    Off topic: Israel today strikes at four targets in the Gaza Strip
    1. +7
      28 June 2014 07: 51
      And there were mines in the path of the patrols. After all, they know that they will not go unpunished, and nevertheless, she doesn’t want jihad.
  4. +2
    28 June 2014 07: 35
    In general, he did not say anything new. All I can say.
  5. +11
    28 June 2014 08: 05
    Isailtians simply don’t chew snot, and if they see even a hypothetical threat to themselves, they strike. The country simply lives on today’s realities and they are such that if you can’t accurately calculate the actions of the enemy or probable opponent in half a step, you are killed or the country is destroyed. the actions of the Palestinians.
    1. -3
      28 June 2014 08: 25
      calculate the actions of the Palestinians.
      Is there anything to calculate? smile
    2. 0
      28 June 2014 09: 44
      If they have well-prepared calculations, then when shooting among civilians there will be little loss, and with weak calculations there will be many victims among the population.
  6. Fox
    +1
    28 June 2014 08: 54
    good politics. you suspect a neighbor of something shooting! conveniently and effectively, and most importantly: NO UN AND OSCE, etc. etc. don't blather!
    1. +8
      28 June 2014 09: 16
      If! Even as blather. Two shots are needed for each shot:
      before and after, with explanations - where, why, and that they didn’t hurt too much.
      They are sent to UN commissions.
    2. +1
      28 June 2014 09: 28
      Politics is just called "Survive"
    3. 0
      28 June 2014 09: 41
      And the obvious things are denied:
  7. +4
    28 June 2014 09: 32
    You will not envy the Israelites. Around the perimeter of the border, or front,
    or hate.
    1. MACCABI TLV
      0
      29 June 2014 12: 19
      Quote: Olegmog
      You will not envy the Israelites. Around the perimeter of the border, or front,
      or hate.

      and inside idle carelessness ...
  8. karpag
    0
    28 June 2014 10: 30
    Russia has the same after Crimea, now all its neighbors expect them to be next after Ukraine and relate to Russia, respectively
    1. +4
      28 June 2014 11: 01
      Quote: karpag
      Russia has the same after Crimea, now all its neighbors expect them to be next after Ukraine and relate to Russia, respectively

      Our country was divided in the 90s, the majority of them had small princes who did not want to lose their power from their hands, that's where this vigilance comes from, they are just afraid to lose everything that they already considered theirs, well, accordingly, to answer for their activities aimed at "The Good of the People".
      Or, if it is easier said, they are wandering for their own skin
    2. +1
      28 June 2014 13: 49
      Quote: karpag
      Russia has the same after Crimea, now all its neighbors expect them to be next after Ukraine and relate to Russia, respectively

      And which countries do you think? In addition to the Baltic states, Poland, as a result of their complexes, HISTORICALLY suffer from the persecution mania, and now the territory ofinfected by the Nazism virus ...
    3. +2
      28 June 2014 14: 57
      Quote: karpag
      After Crimea, Russia has exactly the same
      Did the inhabitants of some rebellious Arab, previously donated by the Israeli president of the land with a significant Jewish population, seek to become part of Israel?
      Quote: karpag
      now all her neighbors are waiting for them to be next after Ukraine
      will oppress the Russians, overthrow their power, burn protesters ...
      Quote: karpag
      and relate to Russia, respectively
      Accordingly, there are different neighbors.
  9. +3
    28 June 2014 10: 31
    About the ranks. As far as I know, the highest rank in the Israeli army is the lieutenant general. He has a person holding the highest military post - chief of the General Staff. The commanders of the districts there are usually major generals. In general, the interview is very interesting. It can be seen that this officer is studying, gaining experience and thinking for the future.
    1. +8
      28 June 2014 11: 18
      I am always struck by something else, this general and all the others are dressed in the same uniform as ordinary soldiers.
      1. 0
        28 June 2014 11: 43
        Why is there a tribute to Chechnya? And about the Gaza Strip? Great strategist, comment.
      2. +2
        28 June 2014 12: 56
        Quote: professor
        I am always struck by something else, this general and all the others are dressed in the same uniform as ordinary soldiers.

        --------------------------
        In the US Army, everything from the general to the ordinary gets the same uniform kit ... It's okay, for example, I don’t see this ... All insignia are stuck on Velcro and, if necessary, come off ... On the front line only marker for sniper and for language hunters ...
      3. 0
        28 June 2014 22: 38
        Quote: professor
        I am always struck by something else, this general and all the others are dressed in the same uniform as ordinary soldiers.

        "Aleph" (day off) and itsugi (parade) the officers still have a different
  10. -2
    28 June 2014 11: 19
    This is all love in the name of ... All is the name of kindness. smile
    1. +1
      28 June 2014 11: 36
      Well, who does not understand
      Of this general kindness
      They need to pour in their pants
      Nuts nails and bolts

      Fasten them to the battery,
      Pour boiling water in your face
      Until your arms get tired
      Beat their head against the porch!

      Put out the goby in hand
      Hammer in the groin
      And they need to break their legs
      In forty-six places

      Do not let the legs grow together
      Make them walk
      And lighted firecrackers
      Punch them in the mouth!

      To rip Bosko
      Into the smallest pieces ...
      This is all love in the name!
      All in the name of Kindness.
      Butchers.
      1. karpag
        0
        28 June 2014 12: 40
        Vadim, are these your poems?
        1. 0
          28 June 2014 13: 00
          Their author is Myasnikov. but in terms of universal kindness, I agree with him.
          1. karpag
            0
            28 June 2014 13: 39
            Uhhhh .... Well, that is not yours ... I'm glad that you are not a graphomaniac.
            1. -1
              28 June 2014 13: 44
              And provide yours? What is the standard of non-grammar? smile
              1. 0
                28 June 2014 13: 45
                Rhyme like Jew_Ooohegei? will be smile
              2. karpag
                0
                28 June 2014 16: 13
                So I’m not a graphomaniac, therefore I don’t write. As a good poetry from the 20th century, read Chichibabin, Slutsky, Yesenin, Blok
  11. -5
    28 June 2014 13: 15
    Pretty cannibalistic phrase:
    In the 80-90s, we woke up in the morning, fired several shells at targets in Lebanon, got into the headlines and were happy with life.
    That is, until they killed a couple of Arabs, the day was considered lost.
    1. +1
      28 June 2014 13: 40
      Quote: quilted jacket
      That is, until they killed a couple of Arabs, the day was considered lost.

      Well, how could a watertroll pass an article on Israel? He's grazing here for this. bully
    2. karpag
      +1
      28 June 2014 13: 41
      Vatnik, so we Jews, cannibals, what's new for you ... Every morning I eat an Arabian baby for breakfast
      1. -3
        28 June 2014 13: 46
        karpag finally you still admitted the truth.
        So eat? And only babies?
        And then we don’t eat everything, we don’t eat babies.
        karpag is the most honest Israeli i have talked to.
      2. +2
        28 June 2014 13: 47
        Quote: karpag
        Vatnik, so we Jews, cannibals, what's new for you ... Every morning I eat an Arabian baby for breakfast

        Why lie? They are now spreading it all over the Internet. Everyone knows that we use only blood and only Christian babies, and even then exclusively on dogs for making kosher matzo.
        1. -1
          28 June 2014 13: 51
          And the blood of which concession of Christian babies, specify?
          1. +2
            28 June 2014 13: 53
            Quote: tanit
            And the blood of which concession of Christian babies, specify?

            1. For what purpose are you interested?
            2. About this in detail in Shulchan Aruch ...
            1. +1
              28 June 2014 13: 57
              Clarified. There is just the blood of Christian babies. Why are you consuming Orthodox blood? smile
              1. +3
                28 June 2014 14: 24
                Quote: tanit
                Clarified. There is just the blood of Christian babies. Why are you consuming Orthodox blood?

                Orthodox - no, only the Scottish warriors. They have a lot of Whiskey in their blood - so to speak, shampoo and conditioner in one bottle.
                1. MACCABI TLV
                  -1
                  29 June 2014 00: 30
                  Quote: atalef
                  They have a lot of Whiskey in their blood - so to speak, shampoo and conditioner in one bottle.

                  it's +5!
                  but apparently it's time to switch to the Americans from Kentucky, they have the same excellent bourbons drinks
          2. +1
            28 June 2014 14: 21
            Quote: tanit
            And the blood of which concession of Christian babies, specify?

            You probably wanted to say consistency - although the question is not clear
            physical physical state of liquid and solid bodies with respect to their softness or hardness and density ◆ Rock solid consistency.
            honey. general condition of an organism, of any organ from the point of view of its strength or weakness ◆ An organism of weak consistency.
            comp., jarg. data integrity, data consistency (in the database) ◆ The consistency of the data is violated - the data has been circumvented by the business rules handler. Triggers implement the business rules and thereby maintain the consistency of data.

            Any self-respecting anti-Semite knows that
            The conversation can only go on the second group (negative Rhesus) - the rest is not kosher laughing
            1. -2
              28 June 2014 14: 28
              And who told you that I am anti-Semite? I do not allow myself to speak out against Israel. On the contrary, I admire his actions as a state.
              1. +2
                28 June 2014 14: 36
                Quote: tanit
                And who told you that I am anti-Semite? I do not allow myself to speak out against Israel. On the contrary, I admire his actions as a state.

                And who told you that the conversation is about you?
                1. -1
                  28 June 2014 14: 45
                  Bravo. Not I am the first, but again I ask, is Atalef the same?
      3. -1
        28 June 2014 13: 49
        And how cannibal cannibal, answer, eh? So how do you get through Jordan? Well, let's go. And home is not fate?
        1. +1
          28 June 2014 15: 11
          Quote: tanit
          And how cannibal cannibal, answer, eh? So how do you get through Jordan? Well, let's go. And home is not fate?

          Are you talking about this?
          The American administration fears that the terrorist organization Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant intends to expand its activities to another Middle Eastern state - Jordan. A representative of the White House told the senators about this in closed hearings, reports Eli Lake on The Daily Beast.
          The United States believes that the Hashemite kingdom is unlikely to cope with such a serious threat on its own. However, expert Thomas Sanderson believes that open intervention by the Israeli army is only possible as a last resort, for example, if terrorists besiege the Jordanian capital.
          The author of the publication notes that in the event of an ISIS attack on Jordan and Israel’s participation in the war with this group, the Jewish state will be on one side of the barricades with its worst enemy - the Iranian regime. Iran is fighting Sunni Islamists in Iraq and Syria.

          This is the irony of geopolitics. In general, it is difficult to imagine today more abnormal than the actions of Iran and Israel against the same enemy, but it may well be.
    3. 0
      28 June 2014 14: 07
      By the way, the professors can’t argue. This is an axiom.
      1. +1
        28 June 2014 14: 34
        Quote: tanit
        and, in which there is no clarity, there is no time to report upstairs about your dumbass and, accordingly, I’m not sure

        Have you tried?
        1. 0
          28 June 2014 15: 17
          Quote: professor
          Have you tried?
          Otherwise I would not write. And here I am trying to consider the situation through the eyes of Putin, but to the extent of my awareness. Learning to think about Russia.
      2. 0
        28 June 2014 22: 43
        Quote: tanit
        By the way, the professors can’t argue. This is an axiom.

        In order to argue, you need to have a similar level of knowledge and be able to conduct a discussion. Well, for starters
  12. 0
    28 June 2014 13: 55
    Professor, don’t torment ... You and Assad almost personally killed almost a year ago. Well, give out something so enchanting.
  13. 0
    28 June 2014 14: 10
    Professor, and professor? And you were definitely at the Russian base in Armenia? It seems to me - you were not there. hi
    1. 0
      28 June 2014 14: 16
      You know, probably? There are such lists. You are not close to them.
      1. +2
        28 June 2014 14: 32
        Quote: tanit
        Professor, don’t torment ... You and Assad almost personally killed almost a year ago. Well, give out something so enchanting.

        If I made decisions, Asda would not be able to collect even in the morgue.

        Quote: tanit
        Professor, and professor? And you were definitely at the Russian base in Armenia? It seems to me - you were not there.

        Of course he was. And the headquarters in the fortress and the military town at the "training ground" and at the airfield and even the air defense unit at the "Kazach post". What kind of sadness are you? wink
        1. 0
          28 June 2014 14: 42
          damn, so you do not want to agree .... smile Ueli. drinks
        2. 0
          28 June 2014 17: 16
          "If I made decisions, then Asda would not be able to collect even in the morgue."

          And why, excuse me, does Assad disassemble?
          There are no alternatives and are not expected and who will not
          all worse.
          1. 0
            28 June 2014 17: 37
            Quote: tilix
            And why, excuse me, does Assad disassemble?

            at least for that
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              28 June 2014 17: 52
              You wanted to say And for that.
              But apparently all the others are worse
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    28 June 2014 14: 16
    Get a double gesheft for the same thing? This is our way! The fact is that on March 18 this year this interview has already been published on this site. Maybe Roy Riftin is something our editors like, but not as much ....
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      28 June 2014 14: 22
      Yes, that’s not the point.
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    28 June 2014 14: 56
    But, professor, you never answered about Gaza. And atalef too.
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      28 June 2014 15: 04
      Quote: tanit
      But, professor, you never answered about Gaza. And atalef too.

      I didn’t catch, but what is the question?
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        28 June 2014 22: 46
        Quote: professor
        I didn’t catch, but what is the question?

        There, a man formed in his head both a question and an answer, he fiercely opposed you, won, and proudly raised the flag. What a fine fellow. If all this was still in real life ...

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