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The thirst for the speed of the Israeli Air Force

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In an attempt to warn Hezbollah about the rash idea of ​​again exposing Israel to rocket attacks, as was the case in 2006, the Israeli Air Force Commander noted that thanks to new technology and weapons, the Air Force now can hit more Hezbollah’s targets than it did in the past 24 of the day (during 33-s of the war in 34-th year). Regarding Hamas in the Gaza Strip, it was noted that at present Israel is able, in less than 2006 hours, to hit the same number of targets, the search and destruction of which in the 12 year took seven days. All of this is part of the technological revolution that the Israeli Air Force has been undergoing since the 2008s. Since 1990, these changes have only accelerated.

Israel had tremendous intelligence gathering capabilities even before 2006. Israeli satellites, UAVs and manned reconnaissance systems used to collect data made it possible to identify enemy bases and ammunition depots. These capabilities, for example, allowed the Israeli Air Force to quickly destroy most of Hezbollah’s long-range missiles in the year 2006 and in the Gaza Strip in the year 2008. A small number of long-range missiles that escaped the Israeli defeat aviation in 2006, the year was launched on the territory of Israel, but as a result of the Air Force attack carried out at the initial stage of the war, more than a hundred large missiles were destroyed that could hit targets throughout Israel. Israeli military experts emphasized the role of the 100th Squadron, the oldest squadron of the Israeli Air Force, which is armed with military-modified twin-engine Beechcraft King Air aircraft, nicknamed Zufit. These planes are crammed with sensors and electronics controlled by five operators.

The thirst for the speed of the Israeli Air Force


The Israeli Air Force demonstrated many innovations in less than two years since the 2006 war, when dozens of targets were destroyed in Gaza within three minutes by Israeli military aircraft. It was an impressive example of precision bombing. However, when Israeli ground forces entered Gaza ten days later, other Air Force innovations largely remained unnoticed by the general public.

After the 2006 war, the air force quickly made radical changes to coordinate its activities with the ground forces. For this, dozens of old (including already dismissed) fighter pilots were mobilized and used to coordinate air support in the headquarters of army brigades. In turn, these officers received new technologies and procedures for coordinating aviation support with army commanders: more real-time information from UAVs and airplanes and the ability to instantly strike at detected targets. The purpose of all this was to increase the efficiency and accuracy of the use of smart bombs and missiles to destroy the targets chosen by the army. In the past few years, this has meant the use of a new display technology and software that allows commanders to identify and indicate a target with only a few taps on the touch screen. For these purposes, Israel also uses devices the size of a cell phone and is constantly improving its data encryption system, preventing the adversary from intercepting these messages. The current goal is to further improve and speed up the data transfer, so it is possible to hit ten times more goals than was possible in 2006. Since 2008, standardization and communications have been further improved, so today there is no need for Air Force officers in the ground units to receive operational air support.



After the 2006 war with Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, Israel realized two things: its armed forces are still superior to Arab forces and its armed forces are not as superior to them as Israel had previously believed. The main Israeli problem was communication. What did the Arabs do, or at least the Iran-supported Hezbollah? They learned to move faster and more inventively than the Israelis had expected. What really shocked the Israelis was that, despite their ability to detect and track Hezbollah’s movements, they couldn’t use artillery, aircraft or ground troops fast enough to destroy Hezbollah’s many identified positions before they changed positions again. All the various levels of Israeli commanders and combat units could actually communicate with each other, but not fast enough to hit the detected target, which did not stay in place long enough to complete all the procedures and receive the documents necessary to issue an attack order most suitable for this divisions.

The solution was found in new technologies and procedures. Since 2006, Israel has built a new communications system that works faster and is capable, according to the Israelis themselves, to hit much more goals than was possible in 2006. Most of the solution does not carry anything radical in the field of equipment, but simply standardizes the procedures used by everyone to call fire support and provide it. Now commanders at all levels can see the same data and are able to quickly receive fire support. Thus, when a target is determined, an air attack, an artillery attack, or ground forces occur very quickly.

Everyone knows how dangerous it is to underestimate the enemy. The exercises in the role of "enemy" are the Israeli troops, received orders to be inventive and do everything not to be noticed and amazed. And in fact, it is striking how these "enemy" troops manage, and this must be kept secret so that the real enemy cannot learn about these inventions.

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  1. Luzhichanin
    Luzhichanin 27 June 2014 09: 15
    -2
    it would be understandable if they worked against militants.
    so no, the locals suffer mainly, and what is the compensation for the damage done to them?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 June 2014 09: 23
      +7
      Quote: Luzhichanin
      it would be understandable if they worked against militants.
      so no, the locals suffer mainly, and what is the compensation for the damage done to them?

      Where did you get this information from? Just curious to know? For I, as a person who has served in the IDF quite a bit, have other information. There are associated losses, where without them in modern buildings, but the civilian population is not at all the target and receives corridors and warnings.
      1. miraculous
        miraculous 27 June 2014 09: 57
        -3
        I don’t think that the local population is being warned (because then the targets will know about the shelling). But of course the press will write that they warned.
        1. other
          other 27 June 2014 12: 24
          +8
          DISPOSE SHEETS TO LEAVE THIS AREA! THIS IS 100 PERCENT! THOSE WHO WANTS TO LEAVE! THE FIGHTERS OF THEIR POSITION will not leave them here later and iron them!
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 27 June 2014 17: 17
          +5
          Quote: chudoudodelt
          I don’t think that the local population is being warned (because then the targets will know about the shelling). But of course the press will write that they warned.


          Actually, the norm is leaflets and obzovon
          1. Luzhichanin
            Luzhichanin 30 June 2014 17: 10
            0
            and what is the compensation for damage expressed in?
            the answer to the question was not given, then you are flooding. fellow
            but no, the moderators didn’t react in any way, so they essentially answered crying
            Well, I’ll answer it myself.
            um ... let’s think: yeah, that’s the way the damage is compensated — in the emergence of new Jewish settlements on Arab lands.
            Thank you for the minuses, but thank you for the pros!

            Well, of course, withdrawing from the topic a little in a different direction is a favorite troll technique. that is, the civilian population does not receive damage in the form of destroyed houses. I forgot, I forgot, the moderators didn’t react in any way, you are not a troll, you are not a troll, I was mistaken, I apologize.
    2. gregor6549
      gregor6549 27 June 2014 09: 37
      +14
      So they work against the militants, who are local residents. Moreover, these local residents receive electricity and water from those whom they fire, and free of charge, i.e. for nothing, they do not pay any taxes to the state on whose territory they live, etc. I would like to see the reaction of, for example, the Russian state, if one of its autonomies "kicked up" and began in "righteous" anger to fire rockets and filth on the territory of this state, kill and abduct its citizens, etc. In my reaction, it would be simple and unambiguous: to wet in the toilet. By the way, such a reaction was once shown by the king of Jordan, who, after attempts by the "peaceful and unhappy" Palestinians to establish their own order in Jordan, which granted them refuge in 1967, staged a demonstrative flogging, slaughtering thousands of Palestinians without distinguishing who is a militant and who is local. And he threatened to continue the process to the last Palestinian if they do not calm down. And she became in Jordan "oil painting" i.e. t shi na. But Lebanon could not accept this, and Syria would not have given it, and now all of Lebanon is walking under Hezbollah. How it threatens Lebanon was shown by the 2nd Lebanese War with Israel. So the question of who is a militant and who is local is very delicate, as is the case with everything in the East. Moreover, the "locals" are looking more and more closely at Russia and its southern neighbors, and they are looking into the sights of the weapons donated by Russia. Somehow it would be more vigilant with the "local"
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 27 June 2014 10: 27
        -2
        Quote: gregor6549
        Moreover, these local residents receive from those whom they shell electricity and water, and for free, i.e. for nothing

        But then the locals want independence, not free water! Do not replace concepts, otherwise you should be listened to - so they also fed slaves for free! Give them independence on their land, they do not need more. Make a border, put up a fence, and live calmly, what problems.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 27 June 2014 11: 39
          +12
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          But then the locals want independence, not free water! Do not replace concepts, otherwise you should be listened to - so they also fed slaves for free! Give them independence on their land, they do not need more. Make a border, put up a fence, and live calmly, what problems.

          They tried in 2005 with Gaza, withdrew troops, evicted settlers, put up a fence, and left them to live as they see fit. (giving them electricity and water almost to the ball at the same time). And what?

          Less than a year later, Hamas crushed Gaza under itself, and all kinds of evil spirits climbed to us through this very fence, and rockets flew. If they wanted to, they could build a second Monaco there, announcing tax incentives to offshore companies and building resorts with casinos. The money would be enough for them - donations from all over the world flow like a river, but no, donations are stolen by the top of the terrorists, a quarter goes to weapons, three quarters in their pockets, nothing reaches the population. And it is beneficial for Hamas to keep the people "in a black body" in an impoverished environment, it is easier to recruit militants.
          And next to their television Goebbels propaganda - childish prank, children's programs PRESCHOOL AGE to teach that killing Jews is great, and becoming a suicide terrorist is the height of benefactor.

        2. gregor6549
          gregor6549 27 June 2014 15: 09
          +11
          I have been to Israel and Egypt. And I spoke to many Palestinians. So, as soon as I started talking about their statehood and independence, they looked at me as if I was sick and reported that they were people who have been free for a long time, not used to paying for; lodge anyone, serve in the army, police, etc. And the state is first of all taxes, and it needs servicemen. So all these tales about statehood and independence are invented by a small handful of Palestinians who have long understood the benefits for themselves in being the big "bosses" of a small but very independent state, to receive cardboard sickly help from sympathizers for this fool, etc. Not for what other state they did not have and will not need. And in general, it's time to open your eyes and understand that apart from terror and stealing multimillion-dollar aid (for the same terror) from "sympathizers" they do not need anything. And all this terror began with Uncle Arafat, who shortly before the end of World War II made the Hajj to Berlin Adik vowed to be a faithful fighter against the Jews and finally resolve this very issue in the land of Palestine.Under such an oath, he received large donations and since then between Jews and Arabs began something that cannot stop for decades. And then the British hurriedly, and indeed The USSR did not stand aside, especially when it kind of helped the Jews in gaining statehood, and they, the ungrateful ones, did not want to become another republic of the Land of Soviets. This has not been forgiven Israel and is not forgiven to this day. so far no one can explain their origin, and no one is trying hard. So the world of Israel can only dream. Too many days hedgehogs pay the murderers of its citizens to keep the endless war there.
          1. vova1973
            vova1973 27 June 2014 17: 34
            -4
            but why would no one need this Palestine with Israel if the Persian Gulf with its oil were not nearby. For example, North Korea is nothing, an "evil empire" and only nobody is bombing it.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 June 2014 19: 54
              +2
              Quote: vova1973
              but why would no one need this Palestine with Israel if the Persian Gulf with its oil were not nearby. For example, North Korea is nothing, an "evil empire" and only nobody is bombing it.


              That is why there were constantly waged wars - the Roman Empire, Babylon, the Crusaders, Salah al-Din, the Turks, World War I

          2. STALGRAD76
            STALGRAD76 1 July 2014 11: 35
            0
            Do you want to say that the Palestinians are like ... a cygan?
        3. rehev931
          rehev931 27 June 2014 18: 35
          +3
          the point is that they do not need independence, but for Israel to disappear from the face of the earth! just stupidly disappeared! and independence is a lure !!! for as long as this is an Israeli territory, it is an internal conflict, and after gaining independence, the Palestinians have their own official state and an official army, on the side of which someone else can come out! and as everyone knows these "third" in the region to choose from !!! I know firsthand because he served 3 years in the IDF in a motorized rifle unit and in the "territories" and on the Lebanese border
        4. rehev931
          rehev931 27 June 2014 18: 35
          +1
          the point is that they do not need independence, but for Israel to disappear from the face of the earth! just stupidly disappeared! and independence is a lure !!! for as long as this is an Israeli territory, it is an internal conflict, and after gaining independence, the Palestinians have their own official state and an official army, on the side of which someone else can come out! and as everyone knows these "third" in the region to choose from !!! I know firsthand because he served 3 years in the IDF in a motorized rifle unit and in the "territories" and on the Lebanese border
      2. vova1973
        vova1973 27 June 2014 17: 29
        -1
        the Spaniards, too, in America, the Indians exchanged gold for glass and they considered their benefit figures for the time being. While it was too late to see. Europeans on two continents plagued people - is it civilization?
  2. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 27 June 2014 09: 18
    +12
    I’m even interested. This is what we have long dreamed of. Trained specialists in aircraft battalion in each battalion, and if necessary, in the company. We spoke about this in 2002 at the analysis of the exercises. But as always, until we get it on the head, we will not begin to move.
    1. IS-80
      IS-80 27 June 2014 09: 48
      +2
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      But as always, until we get it on the head, we will not begin to move.


      It seems strange to Israel. laughing
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 27 June 2014 10: 32
        +21
        Quote: IS-80
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        But as always, until we get it on the head, we will not begin to move.

        It seems strange to Israel. laughing

        Not surprisingly, I (as a child of two cultures) noticed a lot in common in the Russian and Israeli mentality, including in the army.

        1. "Until the thunder breaks out ..." - Almost the entire experience of the Israeli army is written in blood, not by planning analysts. They will lurk about any topic until the fried rooster pecks into the tuches, and then everything starts working with 300% efficiency and in emergency mode (as with installing KAZ on tanks, for example), and asks - why did you sleep before?

        2. "They take a long time to harness, but they go fast" - The authorities can tolerate provocations at the border, for a day, a week, a month, and then all of a sudden they break loose and commit a single aggression so hard, heartily, that the enemies' molars are pouring through the sphincter. And here, of course, the entire "progressive world" begins to bleat about the disproportionate response, and ours are sincerely perplexed why.

        3. "Ours do not give up" - An Israeli soldier, in this regard, an interesting phenomenon, will calculate every step, be careful, try not to give in to emotions, fight prudently and in cold blood, but if he loses the initiative, the "roof demolition" takes place, and in a situation where any "healthy" person should the idea of ​​fleeing, he rushes into the attack. (In Lebanon, in 2006, a vivid example was when a platoon was squeezed in the courtyard of a house, showered with grenades, many were wounded, the platoon's machine gunner "blew off the tower", and he cut down 4 or 5 terrorists by throwing himself at them head-on at almost zero distance (from around the corner of the fence) , the rest of the Hezbollons fled in panic "from this psycho."

        And much more can be found in common, something like this request
        1. 0255
          0255 27 June 2014 10: 46
          +4
          Quote: And Us Rat
          Not surprisingly, I (as a child of two cultures) noticed a lot in common in the Russian and Israeli mentality, including in the army.

          maybe it's because you have a lot of citizens from the former USSR? wink
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 27 June 2014 11: 08
            +4
            Quote: 0255
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Not surprisingly, I (as a child of two cultures) noticed a lot in common in the Russian and Israeli mentality, including in the army.

            maybe it's because you have a lot of citizens from the former USSR? wink

            It has always been like the old-timers requestand up to "big aliyah" too. This is something deeper, the war for independence, for example, fought with an enemy superior in numbers, possessing a large number and better quality of weapons ... and hung them with strong people. request

            To be honest, Aliya of the 90s brought more negativity with her, nepotism and protectionism, youth criminality (thug romance, life "according to concepts"), anger (here people are kinder to each other), everyday infantilism (they are used to the state "by the handle" from the diaper to the grave it leads like an unreasonable child, and freedom implies personal responsibility for your well-being) ... fortunately now this negativity has practically outlived itself, by the time it arrived in the 90s, the children who grew up here in this regard are more "morally healthy " whether.
            1. nvv
              nvv 27 June 2014 11: 56
              +2
              Sorry, not on topic. Recently a question has appeared for you. I rushed to look. It turned out that you are nowhere to be found, all comments have been deleted. And then I walk past, I look, here he is gone. The question is, before you disappeared, in the commentary, you showed someone a flag with an interesting coat of arms. Your words “Guess what, this?” If you can, answer, well, but no, and there is no court. Yours faithfully
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 27 June 2014 12: 31
                +3
                Quote: nvv
                Sorry, not on topic. Recently a question has appeared for you. I rushed to look. It turned out that you are nowhere to be found, all comments have been deleted. And then I walk past, I look, here he is gone. The question is, before you disappeared, in the commentary, you showed someone a flag with an interesting coat of arms. Your words “Guess what, this?” If you can, answer, well, but no, and there is no court. Yours faithfully

                Flag of Iran or what? (the comments were taken down for printing in bold, I completely forgot about this point in the rules)

                This one?
                1. nvv
                  nvv 27 June 2014 12: 57
                  +1
                  The middle is similar but not that. Moreover, you wouldn't say “guess” to the interlocutor. I just thought that the comments were taken down because of him. Well, okay, thank you for answering.
                  1. nvv
                    nvv 27 June 2014 16: 08
                    0
                    Astana? .......... hi
        2. karpag
          karpag 27 June 2014 10: 50
          +8
          There is one big difference: attitude towards your losses. The expressions "you are afraid, you feel sorry for people" and "women are still giving birth" do not exist in the Israeli military lexicon
        3. STALGRAD76
          STALGRAD76 1 July 2014 11: 43
          0
          And they have no where to retreat, behind (only in) Moscow laughing
    2. Iline
      Iline 27 June 2014 10: 49
      +7
      They received head bombers in Chechnya. Suddenly it turned out that they did not exist at all. The artillerymen tried to direct, but how could a person who could not imagine what the earth looked like from the air during a dynamic flight manage aircraft?
      In general, an article in the subject. The Israelis have made great progress in the field of military electronics and the whole world recognizes this.
      1. Professor
        27 June 2014 17: 42
        +4
        Quote: Iline
        In general, an article in the subject. The Israelis have made great progress in the field of military electronics and the whole world recognizes this.

        The article is actually half-length. Here is another article on the same topic, but from an Israeli pen, not an American one. So the Israelis write that the capabilities of the Air Force have increased by an order of magnitude thanks to "communications" and ... weapons. Namely, high-precision small-caliber bombs such as the Spice 250. Even the baby F-16 carries a dozen of these toys.

        Israel has quadrupled its air-strike capacity over the past eight years
      2. Kus Imak
        Kus Imak 27 June 2014 18: 04
        +2
        Quote: Iline
        They received head bombers in Chechnya. Suddenly it turned out that they did not exist at all. The artillerymen tried to direct, but how could a person who could not imagine what the earth looked like from the air during a dynamic flight manage aircraft?
        In general, an article in the subject. The Israelis have made great progress in the field of military electronics and the whole world recognizes this.


        Israel also had a problem on this topic. It got to the point that the maps of the pilots and ground troops were in a different coordinate system. But nothing, we have rebuilt and the gunners are able to work with "earth" maps too :)
    3. Codename49
      Codename49 28 June 2014 08: 11
      +1
      why don’t you invite them (the Palestinians) to all resettle in cottage villages in either Egypt or Iraq? will he build a couple more factories that they can work there and let them live on their own?
  3. rubin6286
    rubin6286 27 June 2014 09: 47
    +7
    The methods, means, technologies used by Israel and their effectiveness need to be studied. In the fight against terrorism, we are allies.
  4. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 27 June 2014 10: 07
    0
    It will be cheaper! Otherwise, the policy of "I will kill everyone, one will stay" does not work (kill everyone from Israel)
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 June 2014 10: 13
      +7
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      It will be cheaper! Otherwise, the policy of "I will kill everyone, one will stay" does not work (kill everyone from Israel)

      Golda Meir once said: "Peace will come when Arabs will love their children, more than they hate Jews." But judging by what is happening in Iraq, Syria and Libya, this will not be soon.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 27 June 2014 10: 31
        -5
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        more than hating Jews "

        Have you ever wondered about the causes of hatred? Are you so soft and fluffy? Leave the occupied territories, you see, and the Arabs will be ripened. hi
        P.S. In the meantime, as a citizen of Russia, I would supply the Arabs with MANPADS in order to equalize their right to life. Your citizens (Kalomoisky) pay for the murder of our citizens. request As Moses said there - an eye for an eye?
        1. karpag
          karpag 27 June 2014 10: 55
          +7
          Do not worry about the Arabs, they have MANPADS. Only our helicopters bring down much more difficult than Ukrainian. Your advice to leave the territories is useless, alas ... They left the gas, now rockets fly from Gaza north of Tel Aviv. So better think about a solution to the Chechen problem. While Russia pays tribute to Chechnya, everything is strawberry. But then the question is: who defeated whom in the Chechen war?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 27 June 2014 11: 05
            +1
            Quote: karpag
            Chechnya - everything is strawberry. But then the question is: who defeated whom in the Chechen war?

            Washed ... crying But then maybe you can start with a tribute ... laughing
          2. Evgeny_Lev
            Evgeny_Lev 27 June 2014 11: 32
            -7
            Comrade, have you gone too far in your highs?
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          4. Dart2027
            Dart2027 27 June 2014 16: 10
            0
            Quote: karpag
            While Russia pays tribute to Chechnya - everything is strawberry

            Nobody pays any tribute. If you mean Kadyrov and his subordinates, then this is rather a variant of the Foreign Legion - why send conscripts when there are those who are ready to go without question and with pleasure. And everyone is happy, except for various liberals who shout about "enough to feed ..."
            1. karpag
              karpag 27 June 2014 17: 47
              +2
              Soldiers of a foreign legion do not go with the Stechkins around Paris, do not rape the French, do not beat half to death, and for no reason Parisians and do not buy their compatriots from the police and courts
            2. VAF
              VAF 27 June 2014 17: 49
              +6
              Quote: Dart2027
              Yes, no one pays any tribute.


              Have you been to Grozny and Argun for a long time? If so, I highly recommend it. Second Dubai good
              And, of course, everything is only from the proceeds of taxes to the local budget lol
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 27 June 2014 18: 09
                +1
                Quote: vaf
                And, of course, everything is only from the proceeds of taxes to the local budget

                Hello flyers! hi
                We would like to receive such "subsidies" in the Samara region, but to increase production crying Germany would nervously smoke aside ... request
              2. Dart2027
                Dart2027 27 June 2014 18: 52
                0
                Quote: vaf
                Second Dubai

                Maybe because they did not plunder, but spent on restoration?
        2. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 27 June 2014 11: 46
          +9
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Have you ever wondered about the causes of hatred?

          And here there is nothing to think about, there are facts:

          The Messenger of Allah said: “You are Muslims, you will fight with the Jews, and when any of them hide behind a stone, the stone will say: O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!”
          (Sahih Bukhari, book 52, hadith 176, narrated by Abdul bin Umar)

          The Messenger of Allah said: “If you defeat the Jews, kill them all.” Therefore, Mukhaisa attacked Shubaiba, a Jewish merchant who had close relations with his family, and killed him. After that, Khuvais (the elder brother of Mukhais), who did not want to convert to Islam, began to beat Mukhais, saying: “O enemy of Allah, you have accumulated a lot of fat on your stomach from the property of the person you killed.”
          (Abu Daud, book 19, hadith 2996, told Muhays)

          The Messenger said: “Kill every Jew in your power. Following this, Mukhaisa attacked Ibn Sunayba, a Jewish merchant with whom he had business relations, and killed him. Khuvaysa (the elder brother of Mukhaisa) was not a Muslim, he began to beat his younger brother, saying: You, the enemy of Allah, you killed him, although most of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth. Mukhaisa replied: If only the one who ordered to kill him would order to kill you too, I would do it. ”
          “I heard the Messenger of Allah say: I will expel all Jews and Christians from Arabia and I will not leave anyone but Muslims.”

          (Sahih Muslim, book 19, hadith 4366, narrated by Umar al-Khattib)

          The Messenger of Allah said: “No Muslim can die without Allah sending a Jew or Christian to hellfire for him.”
          (Sahih Muslim, book 37, hadith 6666, narrated by Abu Bard)
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 27 June 2014 14: 24
            0
            Quote: And Us Rat
            The Messenger of Allah said: “You are Muslims, you will fight with the Jews, and when any of them hide behind a stone, the stone will say: O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!”

            And tell me, as far as I know the Torah (Talmud) is much older than the Koran, so do not we look there the one who first began to consider other people worse than dogs? There is a good saying in the Russian language - "You reap what you sow". I will not quote your instructions for survival (Torah, Shulkhan-Aruch, the same Catechism), you yourself do not know them badly.
            Maybe you should not look for the reasons for the hostility towards you of other peoples in these peoples, but look for reasons in yourself?
            1. Kus Imak
              Kus Imak 27 June 2014 18: 21
              +2
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: And Us Rat
              The Messenger of Allah said: “You are Muslims, you will fight with the Jews, and when any of them hide behind a stone, the stone will say: O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!”

              And tell me, as far as I know the Torah (Talmud) is much older than the Koran, so do not we look there the one who first began to consider other people worse than dogs? There is a good saying in the Russian language - "You reap what you sow". I will not quote your instructions for survival (Torah, Shulkhan-Aruch, the same Catechism), you yourself do not know them badly.
              Maybe you should not look for the reasons for the hostility towards you of other peoples in these peoples, but look for reasons in yourself?


              Dear if you were interested in the truth, you would have long ago found out where in the so-called quotes from the Talmud, walking on the Internet, the truth is half-truth, and where there is a direct lie and fraud. Everyone has Google. But this does not interest you at all; it is much more important for you to raise your own ego by offending another nation.
              P.S. You would be interested in how other peoples "love" Russians, for example Poles, Baltic peoples, Romanians, Moldovans, Caucasian peoples, Tatars (both Kazan and Crimean), Kazakhs, Mongols and others. The Jews did not even stand next to this level of hatred.
              1. STALGRAD76
                STALGRAD76 1 July 2014 11: 52
                0
                From the same text, people can draw completely opposite thoughts.
                For example, I seem to have been born with a hatred of fascism and NATO sad
        3. Kus Imak
          Kus Imak 27 June 2014 18: 11
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          more than hating Jews "

          Have you ever wondered about the causes of hatred? Are you so soft and fluffy? Leave the occupied territories, you see, and the Arabs will be ripened. hi


          Where is the guarantee that a territorial compromise guarantees peace to Israel? For example, they left Gaza. Is there peace and quiet now?

          Quote: Ingvar 72

          P.S. In the meantime, as a citizen of Russia, I would supply the Arabs with MANPADS in order to equalize their right to life. Your citizens (Kalomoisky) pay for the murder of our citizens. request As Moses said there - an eye for an eye?


          And then you can guarantee that these MANPADS do not come up in your Caucasus? Blowing up a fire in a neighbor’s house runs the risk of being himself a burnout. Remember how much effort, money and money you put into the Palestinians. And now most of the Palestinians in Syria are fighting against Assad.
      2. 0255
        0255 27 June 2014 10: 43
        0
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Golda Meir once said: "Peace will come when Arabs will love their children, more than they hate Jews." But judging by what is happening in Iraq, Syria and Libya, this will not be soon.

        class - the United States "de-democratized" these countries, and the Arabs are also to blame for what is happening now. Iron logic...
  5. Dart_Veyder
    Dart_Veyder 27 June 2014 10: 30
    +5
    Quote: chudoudodelt
    I don’t think that the local population is being warned (because then the targets will know about the shelling). But of course the press will write that they warned.

    Kakby it did not sound silly, but they warn the locals that they would not be hurt.
  6. Aldo
    Aldo 27 June 2014 10: 44
    -6
    PR as always. But everyone knows that Israel will lose US support, no technology will help ...
  7. tchoni
    tchoni 27 June 2014 10: 52
    +4
    How much noise there was around various arms at one time. I am glad that although it works for someone. You can study the experience.
  8. Evgeny_Lev
    Evgeny_Lev 27 June 2014 11: 31
    -9
    What stupid bravado?

    We found something to be proud of in an area with a complete lack of air defense equipment, for 8 years, we learned how to see and hit something faster)))
    No air defense, no electronic warfare - revolution))) Boo-ha-ha
    1. Dan4eG
      Dan4eG 27 June 2014 13: 16
      +2
      Well, tell us how the Chechens hit you so much !?
  9. Stypor23
    Stypor23 27 June 2014 11: 40
    0
    The main thing was that civilians didn’t get into.
    1. tilix
      tilix 27 June 2014 12: 07
      +4
      The loss of civilians depends on their (population) proximity to the theater of action.
      Hizbullah and Hamas equip their missiles in the homes of that population, and from there they conduct their combat operations.
      At the same moment, the population is no longer peaceful, since the shoot.
      Therefore, losses among the "peaceful" population have been and will be.
      I am pleased to look at the forum where you urge their leaders to stop such a practice.
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 27 June 2014 12: 33
        +1
        I will look forward to such forums.
        1. tilix
          tilix 27 June 2014 15: 00
          +1
          Google in your hands
          http://moqavemat.ir/?lang=en
          1. Stypor23
            Stypor23 27 June 2014 21: 21
            0
            I’m very grateful. How kind of you to provide this link. I’m not afraid to get the arrogance and ask you, Mr. tilix. How often do you visit sites where the main problem is Muslim dissatisfaction with the actions of the State of Israel?
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 27 June 2014 17: 24
        +1
        Quote: tilix
        Hizbullah and Hamas equip their missiles in the homes of that population, and from there they conduct their combat operations.
        At the same moment, the population is no longer peaceful, since the shoot.
        Therefore, losses among the "peaceful" population have been and will be.
        I am pleased to look at the forum where you urge their leaders to stop such a practice.

        The presence of militants in the building does not cancel the presence of civilians there
  10. karpag
    karpag 27 June 2014 12: 14
    +3
    I think that in the light of the Russian-Ukrainian war, the issue of Russian-Israeli military cooperation becomes irrelevant for many years to come (the same applies to Ukrainian-Israeli). Russia will not supply weapons, so as not to anger America, and Ukraine will not supply, so as not to anger Russia
  11. teron
    teron 27 June 2014 12: 29
    +18
    I like the Israeli theme on the site. There is an Israeli contingent that periodically posts articles of varying degrees of interest about the Israeli Armed Forces and from the IWT. Despite the fact that the response is always a stream of accusations of Israelis for all mortal sins. Let's be easier to somehow relate to each other. It is interesting how one of the most combat-ready armies on the planet is organized and armed. Few of us write articles from other countries, and we don’t know about foreign languages ​​read on other people's sites. Well, the fact that Arabs are fighting there with the Israelis is such a vinaigrette, everything is mixed up and goes back to that time. No need to climb with your charter into someone else’s monastery — you would have to figure out your own.
  12. barmaley
    barmaley 27 June 2014 13: 17
    0
    Theron, well done, for the first time I see common thoughts on this site.
    1. slon82
      slon82 29 June 2014 23: 39
      0
      OWNED TO ACCUSE THE JEWS IN THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE FOR HIMSELF AS IT IS NOT CHRISTIAN CHRISTIAN. Glad for them. Heard that the possibility of joining ISRAEL in the CUSTOMS UNION is being discussed, in any case consultations are coming. I CONSIDER THE MAIN THING FOR ISRAEL TO GET OUT FROM UNDER THE DICT OF THE USA, THE REST WILL BE REFERRED. GOOD LUCK TO THEM.
    2. slon82
      slon82 29 June 2014 23: 39
      0
      OWNED TO ACCUSE THE JEWS IN THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE FOR HIMSELF AS IT IS NOT CHRISTIAN CHRISTIAN. Glad for them. Heard that the possibility of joining ISRAEL in the CUSTOMS UNION is being discussed, in any case consultations are coming. I CONSIDER THE MAIN THING FOR ISRAEL TO GET OUT FROM UNDER THE DICT OF THE USA, THE REST WILL BE REFERRED. GOOD LUCK TO THEM.
  13. padded jacket
    padded jacket 27 June 2014 14: 28
    -8
    The article is absolutely fabulous. The whole point of it is to praise the Israeli Armed Forces. And how advanced and powerful they are, in fact, the army hardly fights even with poorly armed partisans.
    War of 2006
    July 12
    At nine o’clock in the morning, Hezbollah militants fired rocket and mortar shells at the fortified Nurit and border towns. The attack killed eight and injured three Israeli soldiers. Two servicemen - Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev - were captured.
    July 16
    Hezbollah fighters literally bombard the largest Israeli port city of Haifa with rockets. Hezbollah shells from the systems of MLRS "Grad" in various areas and towns of Israel.
    The S-802 anti-ship cruise missile launched from the Lebanese coast hit the Israeli corvette.
    July 19
    Hezbollah resumes intense shelling of cities in northern Israel. In just one hour, about 70 missiles were fired from Lebanese cities around the cities. In the morning, rockets burst in western Galilee, the Hula Valley and Haifa, during the day another massive missile strike hit cities in northern Israel, such as Haifa, Tiberias and Karmiel. According to local doctors and rescuers, there are wounded in Tiberias
    July 24
    At least 70 rockets fired in Israeli cities
    July 26
    Hezbollah fired 150 rockets at Israeli territory.
    2 of August
    The city of Beit Shean, located more than 60 km from the border with Lebanon, was first bombarded. According to preliminary data, 36 missiles exploded in settlements. About 220 missiles were fired on Israeli territory
    On August 3, Sheikh Nasrallah first proposed a ceasefire in mutual bombardments. In response, the Israeli Air Force subjected the Shiite suburbs of Beirut to the most massive bombing of all time during the operation. And at the same time, Christian ones were bombed.
    I do not show this every day of the war. More and more missiles were fired every next day, and the Israeli Air Force was helpless and absolutely unprepared for such a war. The total number of missiles fired around Israel is about 1500. So in the war against partisans who do not have Your Air Force air defense showed itself frankly very badly.

    Now, about the tale, Israel saves the lives of children, women, the elderly, that is, all civilians: Israeli bombing leads to the mass death of peaceful Lebanese. Israeli Defense Forces aircraft strike at Beirut, Tripoli, Thira, Sidon, Baalbek. The mass exodus of refugees to Syria begins.
    The civilian population of Lebanon suffered the greatest losses in the war. According to various estimates, from 850 to 1200 citizens of this country died as a result of Israeli missile bombing attacks on Lebanese cities.
    Among the killed and wounded 1140 children under 12 years.
    Tens of thousands of Lebanese lost their homes. Over a million have become refugees.
    That's all your tales about super-Air Force and ultra-precise weapons.
    1. 0255
      0255 27 June 2014 15: 40
      0
      Israel is fighting without loss, it does not recognize bully
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 27 June 2014 17: 27
      +2
      Killed from 850 to 1200 citizens of Lebanon, and children - 1140. Perfectly.
      1. 0255
        0255 27 June 2014 17: 52
        -1
        Quote: Pimply
        Killed from 850 to 1200 citizens of Lebanon, and children - 1140. Perfectly.

        ... from Israeli bombing. Or are Israeli bombs so democratic that you can close your eyes to the deaths of 850-1200 Lebanese?
        Is it any wonder why the Lebanese burn the wooden merkava every year?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 June 2014 19: 51
          -3
          Quote: 0255
          ... from Israeli bombing. Or are Israeli bombs so democratic that you can close your eyes to the deaths of 850-1200 Lebanese?
          Is it any wonder why the Lebanese burn the wooden merkava every year?

          To begin with, I am surprised by the calculations. Well, there are more dead children than dead in principle.

          Secondly, it may surprise you, but there is a war between Israel and Lebanon since the 1948 year. You roughly represent the number of dead Israeli citizens in the past.

          The shelling of the northern borders and the death of an Israeli citizen before the 2006 year - probably also should not be considered.

          It is also a surprise for you that civilians die during wars, especially if hostilities are fought from residential areas. And still no way has been invented to kill the enemy or put a special mark on him - here he is the enemy. There is a small difference in the deliberate attacks on the civilian population, and in the strikes before which the maximum possible is done to save the civilian population. But in any case, people are dying.

          For some reason, you don’t cry for peaceful German citizens who died in the Second World War. That is amazing. Or by peaceful Syrians, or residents of the Chechen Republic (Chechens, Russians, etc.). For some reason, you recall the Second Lebanese, during which the maximum possible was done to reduce the number of victims among the civilian population of Lebanon. But sorry, this is war. Do not pretend to be a virgin
          1. 0255
            0255 27 June 2014 21: 18
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            To begin with, I am surprised by the calculations. Well, there are more dead children than dead in principle.

            in any case, there were many civilian casualties
            Quote: Pimply
            Secondly, it may surprise you, but there is a war between Israel and Lebanon since the 1948 year. You roughly represent the number of dead Israeli citizens in the past.

            It was about the second Lebanon war.
            Quote: Pimply
            The shelling of the northern borders and the death of an Israeli citizen before the 2006 year - probably also should not be considered.
            It is also a surprise for you that civilians die during wars, especially if hostilities are fought from residential areas.

            The number of civilian casualties is not comparable - 1 about 1000 dead Lebanese versus 44 Israeli. About 1000 Israelis were injured, among the Lebanese about 4000 people were injured.
            Quote: Pimply
            For some reason, you don’t cry for peaceful German citizens who died in the Second World War. That is amazing. Or by peaceful Syrians, or residents of the Chechen Republic (Chechens, Russians, etc.).

            I am sorry for the civilians of any country who died in the war.
            Quote: Pimply
            For some reason, you recall the Second Lebanese, during which the maximum possible was done to reduce the number of victims among the civilian population of Lebanon.

            if the "truthful" Western and Israeli media say that the IDF was downright worried about the peaceful Lebanese, this does not mean that it is true.
            Do not pretend to be a virgin

            This is you telling a woman who, for whatever reason, depicts a virgin in front of you
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 June 2014 22: 01
              -4
              Quote: 0255
              It was about the second Lebanon war.

              The state of war between Israel and Lebanon did not stop. Between 2000 and 2006, Israel was regularly bombarded, for example. Etc. In fact, the names - the Second Lebanese, the First and so on - are just ways to indicate the points of escalation of the conflict.
              Quote: 0255
              The number of civilian casualties is not comparable - 1 about 1000 dead Lebanese versus 44 Israeli. About 1000 Israelis were injured, among the Lebanese about 4000 people were injured.

              The fact that Israel better and more effectively protects its citizens do you blame Israel? I don’t quite understand something. Hezbollah targeted purposefully in residential areas, Israel tried to avoid or limit its force. Do you condemn the fact that Israel sought to prevent the death and seizure of its citizens?
              Quote: 0255
              This is you telling a woman who, for whatever reason, depicts a virgin in front of you

              You are currently playing this role.
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 June 2014 18: 04
      +3
      You are partially right. From missile launch to aircraft launcher destruction
      it took more than 3 minutes. During this time, fighters on a motorcycle managed to drive off
      from the launch site to a fair distance. Yes, and the destruction of an empty launcher -
      not such a success.
      So after the Lebanon war, the Air Force focused on detecting and destroying
      camouflaged launch missiles to salvo. UAVs are very helpful in this. In Lebanon
      they were not used enough.
      Special software regularly compares photographs of the area and automatically notes
      all changes. Marked points are analyzed by experts and marked as
      firing points, if there is reason.
    4. Neksel
      Neksel 27 June 2014 18: 13
      +2
      Quote: quilted jacket
      The article is absolutely fabulous

      And here is the most fabulous character of this forum has appeared. A man who, judging by his many comments, generally lives in a fictional world. wassat

      Quote: quilted jacket
      Hezbollah

      Hezbollah would be more correct. There is no e at all in Arabic. of the vowels only "a, u, o" and "y".
      "Hizb" is a party, and "Alla" - well, it is clear who in general.
  14. Icebreaker
    Icebreaker 27 June 2014 15: 00
    +4
    I tried to never get involved in topics related to ethnic confrontation (like Arab-Jewish or Armenian-Azerbaijani), but still I’ll write.
    Israel (as a state) for me was almost the ideal of organizing a country as a state, (I have absolutely nothing to do with Jews (this is so, just in case smile) I don't care). The thought constantly arises - "if only we could do the same." Israel does not give a damn about everything except its country - attacked / fired upon by Hezbollists or someone else - immediately punish them so that there would be no more such thoughts. Without bothering with the "search for compromises and ways of settlement." As with us, General Ermolov. This is probably why this state is the size of 1/3 of the Moscow region and has existed for more than 50 years, surrounded by very "friendly" neighbors.
    On the other hand, I fully support those who fiercely hate the "Zh.IDs" who have nothing to do with the State of Israel, and who do not care ... don't care about everyone - Russia, Israel, Ukraine, etc. if only a penny does not stop dripping into their wallet (for example, Abramovich, Vekselberg, the Rotenberg brothers, Kolomoisky, etc.), and nationality is not the main thing here.
    Respectfully to all hi
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 27 June 2014 15: 44
      +1
      Quote: Icebreaker
      I tried to never get involved in topics related to ethnic confrontation (like Arab-Jewish or Armenian-Azerbaijani), but still I’ll write.
      Israel (as a state) for me was almost the ideal of organizing a country as a state, (I have absolutely nothing to do with Jews (this is so, just in case smile) I don't care). The thought constantly arises - "if only we could do the same." Israel does not give a damn about everything except its country - attacked / fired upon by Hezbollists or someone else - immediately punish them so that there would be no more such thoughts. Without bothering with the "search for compromises and ways of settlement." As with us, General Ermolov. This is probably why this state is the size of 1/3 of the Moscow region and has existed for more than 50 years, surrounded by very "friendly" neighbors.
      On the other hand, I fully support those who fiercely hate the "Zh.IDs" who have nothing to do with the State of Israel, and who do not care ... don't care about everyone - Russia, Israel, Ukraine, etc. if only a penny does not stop dripping into their wallet (for example, Abramovich, Vekselberg, the Rotenberg brothers, Kolomoisky, etc.), and nationality is not the main thing here.
      Respectfully to all hi


      Totally agree Yes ! I think if we were to conduct a tough and confident policy without looking back at the "world community", then uk, rop, you would have long drawn in their tails and their aggressive barking would have been replaced by a pitiful cheekbone. am
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 27 June 2014 17: 28
      +1
      Quote: Icebreaker
      On the other hand, I fully support those who fiercely hate the "Zh.IDs" who have nothing to do with the State of Israel, and who do not care ... don't care about everyone - Russia, Israel, Ukraine, etc. if only a penny does not stop dripping into their wallet (for example, Abramovich, Vekselberg, the Rotenberg brothers, Kolomoisky, etc.), and nationality is not the main thing here.

      It's funny Nationality does not matter, for some reason the Jews remembered 8)
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 27 June 2014 20: 38
        -1
        Quote: Pimply
        It's funny Nationality does not matter, for some reason the Jews remembered

        As the saying goes - "Who fucked up? ... daughter-in-law!"
  15. DanG73
    DanG73 27 June 2014 15: 25
    +7
    A couple of weeks ago, there was an article in the Hebrew language press about the problems of the goal bank. So it was said there that until recently, the biggest problem was not getting information about the targets, namely, processing the transfer data to the "flight" charts - I mean transferring the target to the card with an accuracy of up to 12 digits. The technology adopted today allows data processing in a few minutes including, if necessary, the floor of the house. So within a few hours hundreds of goals are recruited.
  16. Icebreaker
    Icebreaker 27 June 2014 17: 38
    +2
    Quote: Pimply
    Quote: Icebreaker
    On the other hand, I fully support those who fiercely hate the "Zh.IDs" who have nothing to do with the State of Israel, and who do not care ... don't care about everyone - Russia, Israel, Ukraine, etc. if only a penny does not stop dripping into their wallet (for example, Abramovich, Vekselberg, the Rotenberg brothers, Kolomoisky, etc.), and nationality is not the main thing here.

    It's funny Nationality does not matter, for some reason the Jews remembered 8)

    Well, the topic is something about Israel, that’s what I remembered. If you want - Prokhorov, Deripaska, Potanin smile
    1. karpag
      karpag 27 June 2014 17: 52
      -1
      And why Putin is not on the list?
  17. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 27 June 2014 18: 11
    +3
    With an accuracy of hitting Air Force no problem. But with the collection of information is.
    Apparently, not high-altitude drones will be able to radically improve reconnaissance,
    and the new generation is mini. "Sparrows" that can fly under tree branches
    and literally "sniff out" camouflaged rockets, mortars, etc. sensors on
    the smell of explosives.
  18. padded jacket
    padded jacket 27 June 2014 18: 22
    -3
    Quote: Pimply
    Killed from 850 to 1200 citizens of Lebanon, and children - 1140. Perfectly.


    Read carefully-Among the killed and wounded 1140 children under 12 years.
    Among the dead and wounded.
    1. Professor
      27 June 2014 18: 29
      +3
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Read carefully-Among the killed and wounded 1140 children under 12 years.
      Among the dead and wounded.

      Why don’t you shed tears for German children who died from Soviet bombs? Why don’t blame the Soviet Union and the Soviet pilots? The answer is simple, hezbollons climbed and raked to the fullest (every exit of Nasral from the bunker is now considered as heroism) and the blame for all the dead Lebanese lies only with them.

      Troll more interesting, and we miss you. negative
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 27 June 2014 18: 52
        -2
        The article is not about German children, but about the mighty Israeli Air Force.

        Clashes with Hezbollah were in southern Lebanon and you destroyed civilians in Beirut, Tripoli, Tire, etc.
        For hundreds of kilometers from this place.
        So the blame for the killing of civilians lies only with your government and the army.

        And what kind of habit do you have if you say something that does not coincide with the tale told to you about "Mighty, Terrible and Great Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates", you immediately whine a troll, an anti-Semite.
        Like children right ..
        1. Professor
          27 June 2014 19: 23
          +2
          You are a weak troll. If they owned information, they might know, or maybe they just hush up that in the bombarded Beirut people didn’t even leave cafes and restaurants because they bombed only one block, the stronghold of Hezbollah. Neither the government building nor the parliament was damaged. Even the airport was not touched only by damaging the strip.

          The blame for the death of civilians lies with those who started the war.

          And the fact that you are a fat troll is clear even to beginners. Anyone can go to your profile and look at all your creations ...
        2. Kus Imak
          Kus Imak 27 June 2014 19: 23
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket

          And what kind of habit do you have if you say something that does not coincide with the tale told to you about "Mighty, Terrible and Great Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates", you immediately whine a troll, an anti-Semite.
          Like children right ..


          A good man is a quilted jacket, correct, although he does not write a soft sign in the verbs of the second person. You read it and understand why and from whom you left in due time.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 27 June 2014 19: 37
            -1
            I, too, for both hands that you left (why do we need a "fifth column" in the country) Decent Jews have stayed with us, working and working for the good of their Motherland, Russia (various thieves like Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, etc. I do not mean)
  19. rehev931
    rehev931 27 June 2014 18: 36
    +2
    the point is that they do not need independence, but for Israel to disappear from the face of the earth! just stupidly disappeared! and independence is a lure !!! for as long as this is an Israeli territory, it is an internal conflict, and after gaining independence, the Palestinians have their own official state and an official army, on the side of which someone else can come out! and as everyone knows these "third" in the region to choose from !!! I know firsthand because he served 3 years in the IDF in a motorized rifle unit and in the "territories" and on the Lebanese border
  20. padded jacket
    padded jacket 27 June 2014 19: 46
    -3
    [quote = professor] You are a weak troll. If they owned information, they might know, or maybe they just hush up that in the bombarded Beirut people didn’t even leave cafes and restaurants because they bombed only one block, the stronghold of Hezbollah. Neither the government building nor the parliament was damaged. Even the airport was not touched only by damaging the strip.

    Yes, tell tales further, people sat in cafes and restaurants when they were bombed, and 1200 killed children, women, old people killed themselves, yes ??
    The Brothers Grimm have a rest when you write the next fairy tales.
    1. Professor
      27 June 2014 19: 55
      +1
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Yes, tell tales further, people sat in cafes and restaurants when they were bombed, and 1200 killed children, women, old people killed themselves, yes ??
      The Brothers Grimm have a rest when you write the next fairy tales.

      I’ll stop feeding you soon, so eat up. wassat

      1200 victims? Total? And this is including bearded uncles, because they are known to civilians. Bullshit this Hale Avir, for 33 days of insidious bombing (for example, artillery did not work at all), only 1200 people died, despite the fact that they had no bomb shelters! Whether it’s the RAF case, two days of bombing of Dresden and 25 thousand Germans went to the forefathers ...

      PS
      I wonder how many among these 1200 were killed by the Hezbalons themselves, the so-called friendly fire? In general, you can list these 1200? We all know up to one, and you?
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 June 2014 20: 04
        +1
        Quote: professor
        1200 victims? Total? And this is including bearded uncles, because they are known to civilians.

        Not including, prof. The reality of war.
        http://esquire.ru/war-myths
        Here is a good article about it.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 27 June 2014 20: 25
        0
        1200 only civilians killed by you and about 5000 wounded.
        Fighters of resistance to aggression died in battle:
        According to representatives of Hezbollah, during the hostilities 74 of its militants, 17 Amal fighters and 2 NFOP-GK were killed. In December 2006, Hezbollah admitted the deaths of 250 of its militants.
        The leadership of the UN Observers and the Government of Lebanon give the figure of at least 500 militants killed and 21 captured.
        They are not included in 1200.
        Professor
        Whether it’s the RAF case, two days of bombing of Dresden and 25 thousand Germans went to the forefathers ...

        Do you admire the killing of people ????
        The killing of 25000 Germans ???
        Thank God that you left us, with such views on life, you better live in Israel.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 27 June 2014 20: 47
          +2
          You, in my opinion, entered the Military Review website by mistake.
          There are many anti-war sites, sites of ideological humanists
          and pacifists, where your posts will certainly be met
          heat.
        2. Professor
          27 June 2014 21: 15
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Do you admire the killing of people ????
          The killing of 25000 Germans ???

          I urge screamers like you to appreciate the proportions and compare what the Britons and Americans did for the bombing of London and what the barbarians did for the bombardment of their territory. So, 1200 killed in 33 days of the war, with not one of them intentionally. Very not a bad result.

          Quote: quilted jacket
          Thank God that you left us, with such views on life, you better live in Israel.

          I am glad that you are happy and most importantly, I wish you that after my departure you would live better.

          PS
          I wonder how many among these 1200 were killed by the Hezbalons themselves, the so-called friendly fire? In general, you can list these 1200? We all know up to one, and you?
    2. slon82
      slon82 29 June 2014 23: 47
      0
      YES KILLED YOURSELF, IT WAS. RELAX IN AFRICA KILLING BY MILLIONS, THE WHOLE WORLD DOESN’T MISS. AT THEM (ISRAEL) FIRED, THEY ANSWERED WHAT IS THE PROBLEM. OR THEY SHOULD THINK ABOUT OTHER CHILDREN ABOUT OTHERS. STRANGE YOU.
    3. slon82
      slon82 29 June 2014 23: 47
      0
      YES KILLED YOURSELF, IT WAS. RELAX IN AFRICA KILLING BY MILLIONS, THE WHOLE WORLD DOESN’T MISS. AT THEM (ISRAEL) FIRED, THEY ANSWERED WHAT IS THE PROBLEM. OR THEY SHOULD THINK ABOUT OTHER CHILDREN ABOUT OTHERS. STRANGE YOU.
  21. Prutkov
    Prutkov 27 June 2014 22: 13
    0
    Quote: anden
    DISPOSE SHEETS TO LEAVE THIS AREA! THIS IS 100 PERCENT! THOSE WHO WANTS TO LEAVE! THE FIGHTERS OF THEIR POSITION will not leave them here later and iron them!

    When they bombed and fired on Syria, was they also warned?
    1. Professor
      27 June 2014 22: 14
      +2
      Quote: Rods
      When they bombed and fired on Syria, was they also warned?

      Repeatedly. They told them not to pass weapons to Hezbollah otherwise we will bomb him ... fellow
  22. maxbrov74
    maxbrov74 27 June 2014 22: 36
    +1
    Israel is a dwarf with giant ambitions. And the appropriate show off, of course. How lucky you are that you are a state surrounded by Arabs, and no matter where you are to the north.
    1. Professor
      28 June 2014 08: 34
      -1
      Quote: maxbrov74
      Israel is a dwarf with giant ambitions. And the appropriate show off, of course.

      Are you jealous?

      Quote: maxbrov74
      How lucky you are that you are a state surrounded by Arabs, and no matter where you are to the north.

      I would also not mind that Israel would be next to Switzerland or Sweden.
      1. maxbrov74
        maxbrov74 28 June 2014 09: 35
        +1
        Are you jealous?

        Do not retell how. Evil black envy.
        I would also not mind that Israel would be next to Switzerland or Sweden.

        Or wherever you are next to Birobidzhan ...
        1. Professor
          28 June 2014 09: 37
          +2
          Quote: maxbrov74
          Do not retell how. Evil black envy.

          That's noticeable.


          Quote: maxbrov74
          Or wherever you are next to Birobidzhan ...

          ... or immediately in Kolyma and tighten with a thorn so that the Arabs are not offended. I'm afraid they will establish agriculture there, they will sell carrots to Russia, and the Roosians will be treated there to go.
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          2. maxbrov74
            maxbrov74 29 June 2014 00: 42
            +2
            About the barbed wire is you right. Exactly. Very Old Testament.
            Your doctors, by the way, are really good. And they would have treated the same. Traded, usury under 1000%. The world would still love you. So no, you need dancing on coffins in the style of 7 / 40 to the chorus of bloody boys. To drive the poor Bedouins into the Stone Age from the Middle Ages is a great occupation for a great country. Do not break the Horn of the Persians, God's chosen ones.
      2. STALGRAD76
        STALGRAD76 1 July 2014 12: 21
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        You understand very well that you are not needed in Europe as a state of Israel, but you have been settled among Arabs. It seems that this conflict will never be resolved while you are there, with 50, your state exists, some wars with Arabs ..........
        1. Professor
          1 July 2014 13: 36
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          Quote: STALGRAD76
          You understand very well that you are not needed in Europe as a state of Israel, but you have been settled among Arabs. It seems that this conflict will never be resolved while you are there, with 50, your state exists, some wars with Arabs ..........

          1. The Jews did not settle, they settled themselves.
          2. Arabs, except for fighting the Jews, they are white and fluffy ...
  23. Stypor23
    Stypor23 27 June 2014 23: 07
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    Quote: teron
    I like the Israeli theme on the site. There is an Israeli contingent that periodically posts articles of varying degrees of interest about the Israeli Armed Forces and from the IWT. Despite the fact that the response is always a stream of accusations of Israelis for all mortal sins. Let's be easier to somehow relate to each other. It is interesting how one of the most combat-ready armies on the planet is organized and armed. Few of us write articles from other countries, and we don’t know about foreign languages ​​read on other people's sites. Well, the fact that Arabs are fighting there with the Israelis is such a vinaigrette, everything is mixed up and goes back to that time. No need to climb with your charter into someone else’s monastery — you would have to figure out your own.

    We should know more about Israel and the Israeli intelligence community. The Jewish asset was generously showered with pros
    Quote: barmaley
    Theron, well done, for the first time I see common thoughts on this site.

    A positive replica is natural.
  24. Ordinary stock
    Ordinary stock 28 June 2014 01: 08
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    The article is interesting, albeit somewhat verbose (per unit of useful information).
    The Russian Air Force also needs to work in this direction. Conflicts go in similar conditions. A quick and accurate strike - saved by their own, killed aliens and not killed civilians. Without standardization and automation of decision-making procedures, this is impossible.
  25. Voronbit
    Voronbit 28 June 2014 05: 46
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    what kind of la la poplar ... and I want to ask, well, and7777
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  27. waggish
    waggish 28 June 2014 17: 10
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    That's who it would be good for our pilots to learn from, in the Syrian sky as Putin’s home ................................ in pocket !!!!!!!!!!!
    Already 3-4 bombardment, well, even vaunted Syrian air defense, WEAPONED WITH SOVIET WEAPONS. Probably read memoirs of General Yashkin !!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????????????????????
  28. Nazrug
    Nazrug 28 June 2014 23: 21
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    Quote: And Us Rat
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    But then the locals want independence, not free water! Do not replace concepts, otherwise you should be listened to - so they also fed slaves for free! Give them independence on their land, they do not need more. Make a border, put up a fence, and live calmly, what problems.

    They tried in 2005 with Gaza, withdrew troops, evicted settlers, put up a fence, and left them to live as they see fit. (giving them electricity and water almost to the ball at the same time). And what?

    Less than a year later, Hamas crushed Gaza under itself, and all kinds of evil spirits climbed to us through this very fence, and rockets flew. If they wanted to, they could build a second Monaco there, announcing tax incentives to offshore companies and building resorts with casinos. The money would be enough for them - donations from all over the world flow like a river, but no, donations are stolen by the top of the terrorists, a quarter goes to weapons, three quarters in their pockets, nothing reaches the population. And it is beneficial for Hamas to keep the people "in a black body" in an impoverished environment, it is easier to recruit militants.
    And next to their television Goebbels propaganda - childish prank, children's programs PRESCHOOL AGE to teach that killing Jews is great, and becoming a suicide terrorist is the height of benefactor.


    This reminds Chechnya when they were essentially given independence, and then they attacked Dagestan.
  29. STALGRAD76
    STALGRAD76 1 July 2014 12: 44
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    The methods of database management have changed, and long ago, it is obvious, the time of detection and destruction was reduced to seconds and the means, respectively, needed unmanned and remote. I think engineers in Russia are able to solve these problems, which means that a program and means are needed, but I do not see them, if anyone can tell me about the topic, although this should have already been mastered as they say "yesterday", we are slowing down again ...
    Skirmishing with the Jews is not a useful thing, they live in a tiny territory surrounded by Arabs who wish them dead, and this is not crap when they want to dumbly dunk you.
  30. Beiderlei
    Beiderlei 7 January 2015 16: 41
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    Interesting article!