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Lavrov: the tragedy with a helicopter could not be if Kiev had warned about the flight

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The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Sergey Lavrov, called the death of the Ukrainian security officials, who were in a helicopter shot down in the Donbas helicopter, but noted that Kiev needed to warn the militia about the flights of military equipment in the armistice zone. Reports about it ITAR-TASS.

Lavrov: the tragedy with a helicopter could not be if Kiev had warned about the flight


On Tuesday, June 24, in the Slavyansk region, a helicopter was shot down, in which, according to the leaders of the special operation, 9 people were killed, including the 4 officer of the SBU.

“Of course, this is a tragedy. This should be avoided. But when people, fierce battles, hold positions around cities, where civilians, and a military helicopter flies ... "
commented on what happened Minister.

“If it was necessary to deliver medicines, food, something else from civilians, you probably need to use communication channels (with the militia) - they are there”
added Lavrov.

The Foreign Minister also said that the OSCE mission will be increased to 500 people.

“There is now a little 300, and no one is stopping this mission from expanding. Here the main thing is that there should be people who are ready to work in it and that is all in the hands of the OSCE leadership. ”
said Lavrov.

According to the diplomat, now there is a selection of people to work in the mission.

“These should be people who understand in the field of law enforcement, in the field of human rights,” the Foreign Minister noted. “Ideally, these should be employees with experience in the internal affairs bodies.”
explained the minister.

According to him, now in Ukraine, retired police are working around 10 as part of the mission.

“They work well. Many of them worked elsewhere — in the Balkans, somewhere else. ”
he said in conclusion.
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  1. vsoltan
    vsoltan 26 June 2014 09: 39
    +7
    Yeah .... if only Kiev didn’t eliminate the unwanted, who knows?
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 26 June 2014 09: 45
      +9
      Quote: vsoltan
      Yeah .... if only Kiev didn’t eliminate the unwanted, who knows?

      And they killed the penultimate guintrader? Unlikely.
      1. jjj
        jjj 26 June 2014 09: 51
        +7
        Will the OSCE mission accidentally fly not on familiar white helicopters with UN symbols?
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 26 June 2014 10: 14
          +9
          “If it was necessary to deliver medicines, food, something else from civilians, you probably need to use communication channels (with the militia) - they are there”

          You at least write an SMS to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the DPR, otherwise you fly with hell for what purpose, without warning over someone else’s territory! From a diplomatic language to a universal one it would be something like this! wassat
          1. Junior, I
            Junior, I 26 June 2014 11: 00
            +1
            Do you at least write an SMS to the DNR Foreign Ministry


            They have problems with communication, why good SMSka in the channels.
        2. Paradoxov
          Paradoxov 26 June 2014 10: 16
          +11
          Kieu, from the big thrust in Europe, tried to make it so that now in Europe itself there is nothing to fly safely! Think Europe do you need such "civilized" Europeans?;)

          Chota remembered the old decky joke (I quote as I heard):
          - the Chukchi came to Sklif and asked to remove half of his brain - paid - done - woke up in the morning, seeing the sun in the window, said: - "O tse garno!")
        3. WKS
          WKS 26 June 2014 11: 36
          0
          Quote: jjj
          Will the OSCE mission accidentally fly not on familiar white helicopters with UN symbols?

          I would still think about sending our guys as OSCE observers. I think it's not time yet.
        4. iwakura
          iwakura 26 June 2014 13: 31
          +1
          well, as these helicopters are compromised, then I would beware in their place
      2. evgenii67
        evgenii67 26 June 2014 10: 20
        +8
        "however, he noted that Kiev needed to warn the militias about the flights of military equipment in the armistice zone. ITAR-TASS reports this." not warned, then suicides. The more suicides, the less suicides.
      3. andj61
        andj61 26 June 2014 11: 39
        +1
        Quote: Hariva
        Quote: vsoltan
        Yeah .... if only Kiev didn’t eliminate the unwanted, who knows?

        And they killed the penultimate guintrader? Unlikely.


        Not exactly Kiev, that is, troops fulfilling Poroshenko’s orders. Ukrostorona is multifaceted.
        Who does not benefit from a truce and a course towards a negotiated settlement? Kolomoisky-right sector-oligarchbattalions
        -The Nazi Guard-justyusovskie provocateurs ... They could. And the Strelkov may not control all the militias - like, someone knocked down - they wrote it down at his own expense. moreover, nobody stopped the fire from Karachun either.
      4. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 26 June 2014 12: 26
        +1
        Quote: Hariva
        And they killed the penultimate guintrader? Unlikely.

        So dill first make, and then all the same do not think!
    2. sssss018
      sssss018 26 June 2014 10: 22
      +2
      Yes, maybe it's in their style!
    3. WInovikov
      WInovikov 26 June 2014 10: 50
      +2
      They probably forgot that they could bomb and shoot without warning. So they received a response, too, without warning. And what else could the reaction of the militia to the appearance of the Ukrainian turntable?
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 26 June 2014 09: 40
    +8
    Kiev needed to warn the militias about the flights of military equipment in the armistice zone.

    Of course, the militias were warned ... They were waiting for him very much! The next time Poroshenko must personally warn ..)))) bully
    1. Oleg Sobol
      Oleg Sobol 26 June 2014 09: 43
      +20
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The next time Poroshenko must personally warn ..))))

      It’s better to fly personally, capturing Yatsenyuk, Avakov, Parubiya, Lyashko, Turchinov ...
    2. GDP
      GDP 26 June 2014 09: 43
      +7
      This is a tragedy. Militias should have been warned ...
      What nonsense ?!
      What else did they expect after the bombing of cities?
    3. nvv
      nvv 26 June 2014 09: 44
      +5
      NEWS NEWS
      1. Nikoha.2010
        Nikoha.2010 26 June 2014 09: 58
        +1
        Elena Krasovskaya, and good luck to you, take care of yourself, we are with you! Thanks nvv!
    4. armageddon
      armageddon 26 June 2014 10: 09
      +3
      Hmm ... There’s nothing to fly anywhere ... Well, here IKARA FLY!
    5. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 26 June 2014 10: 12
      0
      Of course, the militias were warned ... They were waiting for him very much! Next time Poroshenko should personally warn

      No need so ... TRAGEDY ... it is EVERYWHERE TRAGEDY! Especially ... THIS IS THE PEOPLE OF ONE COUNTRY!
      And LAVROV RIGHTS --- whatever the confrontation, but it IS NECESSARY TO RESPECT AN OPPONENT ... AND RECOGNIZE WITH ITS INTERESTS ABOUT ITS SECURITY! The rudeness of the banderlogs ... their neglect of the rebellious people is PUNISHED ... THAT WILL BE CONTINUED ... therefore it is always necessary to think first ... and BECOME LATE BURNING OF HANDS AND TAKING CURSES!
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    7. comprochikos
      comprochikos 26 June 2014 10: 41
      +3
      Parashenko must personally fly to Donbass by helicopter and warn the militias wink
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 26 June 2014 09: 43
    +13
    This helicopter flew clearly not for peaceful purposes; let the ukrofashists not hang noodles on their ears. By their logic, the troops are there for a purely humanitarian purpose, everyone knows that the Ukrainian fascists are great hypocrites and liars.
  4. roman72-452
    roman72-452 26 June 2014 09: 45
    +3
    Talking about this is not for the higher race, Ukrainians do everything in silence. Hence the results.
  5. Skif83
    Skif83 26 June 2014 09: 45
    +3
    Not, if one is allowed, then why shouldn't others "frolic" on the turntables?
    And do the fuck there, sit in Kiev!
  6. Good cat
    Good cat 26 June 2014 09: 46
    +4
    All the information that comes from the ukrov is a complete lie, what is the mission if 3 people from the SBU?
  7. Auralski
    Auralski 26 June 2014 09: 47
    +4
    Oh, this diplomatic polit ...
    There would be a real ceasefire, then there would be a conversation.
    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 26 June 2014 09: 57
      -9
      Not just politeness, but a clear signal to the militias and our western partners.
      To militias: there are people, it’s not allowed, even if they don’t comply, but you must ....
      To partners: we influence, we try. No new sanctions needed ....

      Shame! It remains only to apologize.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 26 June 2014 10: 47
        +2
        Lavrov had to add: "In addition, as a result of the attack on the helicopter, the second MANPADS missile damaged the Kosmos-2479 SPRN satellite, we ask the militia to name the handicraft MANPADS more selectively!" Then everything would look beautiful and scary! And there would be no shame with a companion. More creativity in politics! wink
  8. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 26 June 2014 09: 50
    +1
    But how is it necessary to warn about flights in advance so that ours will be prepared and not miss the goat-bandits Glory of New Russia
  9. Hariva
    Hariva 26 June 2014 09: 56
    +6
    Lavrov is beautiful. At the highest level, advises Kiev to give target designations for their own facilities.
  10. wolf7
    wolf7 26 June 2014 09: 59
    +2
    It’s time to switch to horse-drawn transport, otherwise they scattered here, you know.
    Then let them warn: they say that tomorrow the observers will ride horses, do not offend.
    1. Khagysh
      Khagysh 26 June 2014 10: 46
      0
      And what, this is an idea. In Ukraine, they gave out driving licenses for horse-drawn vehicles. I think they can handle the mare.
  11. grandson of Perun
    grandson of Perun 26 June 2014 10: 00
    +5
    Well, Lavrov is a politician, not a media man. Therefore, his words, translated from the protocol into ordinary language, sound something like this: "We, of course, express our duty of condolences, but the warriors themselves are to blame - it is not easy to meddle where they were not invited."
  12. Yellow white
    Yellow white 26 June 2014 10: 00
    +1
    The death of people is always a tragedy, but the "junta" deserves it!
  13. donavi49
    donavi49 26 June 2014 10: 00
    0
    Well, Il-76 flew into Lugansk at night. Or brought reinforcements for a surprise assault or the requested bread, because the lion paratroopers there have been eating 5 days there as the last piece of bread and ate the last MPE at the weekend. They were starving almost completely (Duty only and supplies of cafes - which did not go cold without light, but they were already full when they were MPE and Khlebushek).
    1. nicollider
      nicollider 26 June 2014 10: 08
      +1
      not An-26?

      Yes, I think, specially allowed to sit down. Now the officer will plunge and throw his soldiers. and there you can shoot down.
  14. P-38
    P-38 26 June 2014 10: 02
    +3
    Correctly. It is necessary to warn, and even better, to file applications in advance for flying in the airspace of the republic and obtain permission for it from the DNR command. BUT FIRST, IT IS NECESSARY TO RECOGNIZE NEWS. And only then apply.
  15. Dembel
    Dembel 26 June 2014 10: 08
    +9
    Of course, you need to warn in advance, otherwise the guys do not always have time to take the position for shooting on time.
  16. Ararat
    Ararat 26 June 2014 10: 22
    +1
    The helicopter was shot down correctly, Ukraine. The security forces themselves violated the ceasefire, they shoot, they bomb though they want.
  17. StepanovTDSM
    StepanovTDSM 26 June 2014 10: 26
    +1
    Why not break the border. The DPR and LPR are slowly accustoming to the fact that this is no longer Ukraine.
  18. the righteous
    the righteous 26 June 2014 10: 28
    0
    It’s not clear if the so-called command of the so-called Ukraine will warn the Armed Forces of New Russia (I personally call these armed units) that they will expel, but skip the helicopter with weapons to our checkpoint, otherwise they don’t have enough ammunition to shoot you . and instruct the fighters how to destroy this population. A non-natural nonsense is borne by the Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation. Or it went into fashion only to make excuses.
    1. Khagysh
      Khagysh 26 June 2014 10: 53
      +1
      Lavrov is not the kind of person who will justify himself to someone. He merely informed him that it was not necessary to fly without permission, otherwise there would be nothing left to fly on.
  19. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 26 June 2014 10: 32
    +2
    Quote: Hariva
    Quote: vsoltan
    Yeah .... if only Kiev didn’t eliminate the unwanted, who knows?

    And they killed the penultimate guintrader? Unlikely.

    Yes, they are for the purposes of the United States are ready to ditch the whole country and drown in blood. If they need, then they will erase any cities from the face of the earth in order to blame everything on the militia and RUSSIA. soldier
  20. Rigla
    Rigla 26 June 2014 10: 33
    +3
    There is NO tragedy! 9 (or how many) coffins will come to vile Galicia, let the fascists cry as the tormented Novorossia has long been mourning for children and the elderly. You look will fly less.
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  22. vitaz
    vitaz 26 June 2014 10: 34
    +5
    interesting Lavrov at least made a sad appearance or laughing
  23. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 26 June 2014 11: 24
    +2
    Well done Sergey Viktorovich !!! So, forcibly-unobtrusively, he hinted to the junta that it can only conditionally consider itself the mistress of the "all Ukrainian land", and, not without a share of diplomatic humor, suggested that one must reckon with the other side of the conflict, i.e. to admit that the "junta" in this part controls exactly "nichrome" and must seek permission for its actions. Krasava Lavrov !!! hi
  24. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 26 June 2014 11: 53
    +1
    Fell, then fallen. Let them not fly where it is not necessary.
    “These should be people who understand in the field of law enforcement, in the field of human rights,” the Foreign Minister noted. “Ideally, these should be employees with experience in the internal affairs bodies.”

    Division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs from the suburbs suitable?
  25. Privat
    Privat 26 June 2014 12: 11
    +2
    That's what bad these militias are!
    A completely peaceful ukropovskiy helicopter was shot down, which was carrying harmless diapers and cookies.
    And the fact that there were a couple of hours of explosions after the fall - it’s not the turntable’s ammunition bursting, but it’s just that he probably accidentally fell on a caches with mines and shells from the time of the war.
    They can’t lie anymore ...
  26. Thompson
    Thompson 26 June 2014 13: 27
    0
    Quote: Sid.74
    “If it was necessary to deliver medicines, food, something else from civilians, you probably need to use communication channels (with the militia) - they are there”

    You at least write an SMS to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the DPR, otherwise you fly with hell for what purpose, without warning over someone else’s territory! From a diplomatic language to a universal one it would be something like this! wassat

    Like, let them fly over their territory, Kiev, Lviv ...
  27. antikilller55
    antikilller55 26 June 2014 15: 28
    0
    Well, what is this tragedy? Another well-done work of the air defense forces, well done !! soldier
  28. Bosk
    Bosk 26 June 2014 19: 29
    0
    There is nothing surprising in the fact that they shot down, because after all these bombings at least half of the temptation to overwhelm, if only because after the 27th, for example, he probably again hangs on all sorts of bells and whistles and starts to bomb-shoot.