After Donbass - Transcarpathia?

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After Donbass - Transcarpathia?At a rally in support of Donbass and Novorossia in general, held in Moscow on June 11, representatives of the DPR and LNR, as well as Transcarpathian Rusyns, announced the plans of Kiev, more precisely, of the West to eliminate the Russian factor on Ukrainian territory by any means.

Everything is clear with the Donbas and Lugansk, but as for the participation of representatives of Transcarpathian Rusyns in this forum, here, apparently, a brief excursion into history.

Uzhgorod region (the current Transcarpathian region) was incorporated into Ukraine in July 1945. Prior to that, he was part of Hungary, and until the spring of 1939 of the year - Czechoslovakia. A very short period - May-June 1945-th - this territory was again in reconstituted Czechoslovakia, but on June 29 in Moscow 1945, an agreement was signed on joining the region - “the former Subcarpathian Rus”, as stated in the document, into the Ukrainian SSR. And 22 January 1946, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR declared this region Transcarpathian region of Ukraine.

The Soviet side, not without purpose, insisted on the term "Podkarpatska Rus". At that time, a very significant part of the population (not less than 40%) of Transcarpathia was made up of ethnically close Russian Rusins, professing, in the overwhelming majority, Orthodoxy. Despite the evictions, assimilation and anti-Orthodox policies (forced Catholicism), carried out in this region by the Czechoslovak and Hungarian authorities. It is also characteristic that Prague and Budapest banned the use of the name “Subcarpathian Rus”, pursuing supporters of the national administrative autonomy of this region.

At the end of 1940-x, the beginning of 1950-x, Stalin planned to strengthen the Russian-Slavic factor in a number of republics, namely: the creation in 1953-1954. Russian national autonomous okrugs in Latvia (with a center in Daugavpils, which should have been given the Russian name Dvinsk), in northeastern Estonia (with a center in Narva), in northeast Kazakhstan (with a center in Ust-Kamenogorsk), in Transcarpathian autonomous region, as well as the return of the historical name “Tavria” to Crimea.

The Transcarpathian project, many of the actors involved in it, were reasonably called the “New Transcarpathian Rus”.

But this and a number of other plans of Stalin in the last years of his life were not unsuccessfully opposed by Stalin's “comrades-in-arms” - as it turned out later, cunning opportunists and sophisticated Russophobes.

After 1953, the policy of discrimination against Rusyns and Russians in the Transcarpathian region continued, albeit privately. Directly or indirectly, they were forced to be mentioned in the census of the population by Ukrainians; the national-cultural originality of the Rusyns was ignored and, therefore, was reduced to nothing. Or, at best, she was treated as pro-Ukrainian, but not pro-Russian. The areas inhabited by Rusyns and Russians (mostly eastern and northern) received much less cash subsidies from the regional and Ukrainian budgets.

As a result, according to 2011-2012, the share of Russians and Ruthenians in the total population of Transcarpathia did not exceed 5% (about 25 thousand people), although it remains fairly large in the eastern and northern regions of the region - over 30%.

One can say that the complex assimilation policy of the post-Stalinist and post-Soviet authorities of Ukraine with regard to the Ruthenians is confirmed by the following fact: in Ukraine they still qualify as an ethnographic group of Ukrainians, although not only in Russia, but even in Poland, Croatia, Serbia, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, the Rusins ​​are recognized as an independent ethnos.

The situation of Rusyns aggravated after the “Orange Revolution”. The situation began to deteriorate sharply after the notorious events in Ukraine in January 2014. And in the Transcarpathian region, the self-proclaimed “Network Rusyn Movement” and “People's Government of the Republic of Subcarpathian Rus” were recently created. Naturally, they support the anti-fascist resistance of New Russia.

Petr Getsko, the head of the mentioned Ruthenian organizations in Transcarpathia, in his speech at a Moscow rally, noted that Uzhgorod “and the surrounding settlements in Transcarpathia will also soon insist on autonomy. Even if Russia does not interfere in any way with the situation in Ukraine, Donbass and Transcarpathia will still achieve autonomy, only with more blood. ” In his opinion, it is necessary to jointly resist the "metastases of fascism," otherwise "one by one they will crush everyone." The time of the bystander passes - the time has come for “active collective solidarity”.

As P. Getsko believes, “it is required to create a single network of resistance”. Rusyn, according to their leader, Galician Russophobia "hardly threatens to a lesser extent than Donbass, and the whole of New Russia."

Therefore, these regions need a common strategy of action and mutual assistance.

By the way, the content of her recent conversation with A. Yatsenyuk became known from the entourage of Yulia Tymoshenko. The latter, they say, is deeply concerned about the manifestations of right-wing radicalism, and therefore Yatsenyuk can see a possible solution in transferring three Galician regions to Poland: Lviv, Ternopil and Ivano-Frankivsk. Therefore, Yatsenyuk, according to Getsko, “is negotiating for such a transfer to take place before the end of the year.” And the pretext is - "saving the population from a humanitarian catastrophe, which, apparently, is expected in Kiev by this time."

Recall in this regard that even on March 21, the position of the Rusyns was described in detail in their appeal to V.V. Putin with a request for the peacekeeping operation of the Russian Federation "to neutralize Galician Nazism in Transcarpathia."

The document noted, in particular, that “a very high level of civilizational values ​​(education, science, employment, stability and social benefits for the Ruthenians), which were brought by the fraternal Russian people to Subcarpathian Russia since the autumn of 1944, were destroyed in Ukraine over the last 22 of the year . The urgency of this appeal is caused by the illegal seizure of power by the nationalists of Galicia and in the areas adjacent to the Transcarpathian region. As a result of the last Western stronghold of the Russian World, Transcarpathia was threatened with the mayhem of the Galician nationalists ... ”

It further says that “... a humanitarian catastrophe began for the Ruthenian people and all the residents of Transcarpathia at the hands of the Galician Nazis and local collaborators. A possible new tragedy with the mass destruction of Rusyns is brewing, as it happened 100 years ago in the Austrian concentration camps of death in 1914 (Terezin, Talerhof) and in 1939 (Camp Dumen, near Rakhov) ”. The appeal to the President of the Russian Federation “... rests on the Decisions of the 2 European National Congress of Podkarpackie Rusins ​​from October 25 2008, the Act proclaiming the reestablishment of the Republic of Subcarpathian Rus, the election of the Ruthenian National Government of Subcarpathian Rus and the Decisions of the First World Congress of the Subcarpathian Rusins ​​25.04.2009 in Czech Pardubice.

The reason for the appeal to the.The. Putin is alone: ​​"... Rusyns of the region do not want to be part of such Ukraine, where the Nazi riots of Galich are ripening, threatening the Ruthenians with ethnic cleansing."

Meanwhile, the Hungarian and Romanian national minorities act in Transcarpathia with the requirements of the maximum level of autonomy and dual citizenship. These requirements are supported by the authorities of Hungary and Romania. The Romanian political analyst Alton Faryan told me this: “If the demands of the Rusyns, the Romanians, the Hungarians in Transcarpathia will be ignored in Kiev, then this can lead to the division of this territory into quasi-state national entities. That is, it can be a geographically reduced version very similar to the current Bosnia and Herzegovina. ”

In political terms, according to A.Faryan, today the Hungarians are most active in Transcarpathia, and “if they succeed, local Romanians and Ruthenians will probably follow this example. And with such a development of the situation, the Transcarpathian region will in fact be removed, if not from the composition, then at least from the administrative administration of Ukraine. ”

But, as the expert believes, “it will not be easy for the Romanians, Hungarians, Rusyns, Ukrainians to agree with each other about the clear boundaries of“ their ”territories”.

Note that the situation in Transcarpathia is directly related to the economic interests of the Russian Federation: up to 65%, the volume of gas exported from Russia to Europe has been pumped through the Transcarpathian region since the middle of the 1970s.
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  1. +12
    26 June 2014 18: 36
    Remember the story, when weak power in a country, parts of this country are joined by other states, or new countries are organized, and now in Ukraine there is complete anarchy, everyone wants to do so ...
    1. +8
      26 June 2014 18: 38
      With weak power, discontent breaks out. But it also matures under strong power.
      Just Rusyns now saw their chance.
      1. +4
        26 June 2014 18: 43
        Now we need to think about how to raise not only the Donbass but also other parts of New Russia against the Bandera. There are big doubts with the Rusyns, because Hungary already laid eyes on Zakarapatye, interested in the return of ethnically Hungarian territories.
        1. +4
          26 June 2014 18: 49
          I agree, this is a big problem. Even the creation of New Russia will not solve the problem due to the lack of a common border. They will be in the position of Transnistria.
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          2. Stalker
            +10
            26 June 2014 19: 04
            I agree, this is a big problem. Even the creation of New Russia will not solve the problem due to the lack of a common border. They will be in the position of Transnistria.

            You sir are not right about a common border .. hi... Near future... laughing
            1. +2
              26 June 2014 19: 20
              All the same, I do not see a common border. Do not blame me.
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              2. Stalker
                +1
                26 June 2014 20: 55
                All the same, I do not see a common border. Do not blame me.

                Well we are not proud !! We can dig a subway !!! laughing
                1. 0
                  26 June 2014 22: 03
                  I like your approach to the problem.
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              3. +1
                26 June 2014 23: 16
                Yes and no, only air.
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            3. +1
              27 June 2014 04: 48
              Quote: Stalker
              You sir are not right about a common border .. hi ... The near future ... laughing


              Interesting map. Like. I do not like the way "Russia" is written. I can't see this ukrovskaya i anymore.
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        3. +3
          26 June 2014 19: 31
          There is not only Hungary, you understand .... Slovaks, Romanians ... it all depends on a hypothetical referendum of the Rusyns, i.e. what they themselves decide ... and the position of Russia, which began to rapidly gain political points .... we are waiting, from the development of events, to discuss early ... one thing I know - having familiar Rusyns - they are good to us, but also have complete independence - quite ready .... and historically it happened with our pipe. :-) :-)!
      2. +8
        26 June 2014 19: 07
        If you eliminate all the gifts, that’s what can remain of Ukraine, one has already been taken away, for ill-treatment, the others themselves leave
        1. +1
          26 June 2014 21: 00
          Note that there are practically no countries that would really like to join quite large regions really without any conditions ... (usually everyone wants to separate ..) How we get rid of it terribly .. Prykarpattya (formerly Austria-Hungary) actually colonized Ukraine .. And the most interesting thing is that they are torn to the east (customized by the USA) .. Yu-V reared up against this locust .. I hope to soon drive all the evil from the Slavic lands and from Our Souls!
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  2. +3
    26 June 2014 18: 37
    join, bend the junta together.
  3. mad
    +3
    26 June 2014 18: 40
    I'm not sure that we will "pull" such a distant enclave, it will be like Pridnestrovie surrounded, only attacked by the Nazis with the financial support of the United States. Better to let the Hungarians take them under their wing, an interesting precedent will turn out in the end.
    1. 0
      26 June 2014 20: 05
      Quote: mad
      I'm not sure that we will "pull" such a distant enclave, it will be like Pridnestrovie surrounded, only attacked by the Nazis with the financial support of the United States. Better to let the Hungarians take them under their wing, an interesting precedent will turn out in the end.

      Hungarians-Magyarovo, Slovaks-Rusynovo, all the same Slavs, Romanians-Romanians with gypsies as a bonus. hi
    2. +1
      26 June 2014 21: 32
      Perhaps not the worst option .... Magyars headache ....
  4. +12
    26 June 2014 18: 40
    Rusyns also require respect for themselves and autonomy. Their fair demands must be upheld.
  5. +4
    26 June 2014 18: 41
    Let them join the CHR - everything is better than living with Bandera.
    Such totalitarianism is now in Ukraine - Mao and Hongweibins are resting
  6. +9
    26 June 2014 18: 49
    Yatsenyuk sees a possible solution in some form of transferring to Poland three Galician regions: Lviv, Ternopol and Ivano-Frankivsk.

    If this is true - bravo to Yaytsenyukh! To stir up the hornets' nest and give it to the neighbors! Just let him not forget to pack all the pravosekov there back. So to speak, for a long and lasting memory to my curators from Geyrop. Poles, when they find out, will simply howl with joy. Maybe it's time to learn new chants: "Who's not a skate, that Pole" or "Pole on gi.l.y.k.u"?
  7. +5
    26 June 2014 18: 49
    Everything goes to the partition of Ukraine and the disappearance as such.
    1. +3
      26 June 2014 19: 34
      Everything goes in a natural way ... and many artificial formations will go this way. Russia sipped its cup back in 1991. Now centripetal tendencies prevail among the Slavs .... well, there is nothing to regret about Tajiks or Kyrgyzs ... we don’t need them as part of Russia :-) ..
      1. +1
        26 June 2014 20: 28
        Quote: vsoltan
        Now centripetal tendencies prevail among the Slavs .... well, there is nothing to regret about the Tajiks or the Kyrgyz ... we do not need them as part of Russia :-) ..


        Something I don’t understand the meaning and benefit of your nationalist theory of Pan-Slavism. There has recently been an article refuting Pan-Slavism, beloved by many.
        1. +1
          26 June 2014 21: 36
          You, dear, either didn’t read something, or you distort ... I’m ready to debate .... why is Pan Slavism bad for you? Clarify, please, a hundred, and - arguments, let's give arguments. We’ll talk ... you don’t want to on the branch, in PM too quite
          1. +1
            26 June 2014 21: 53
            Quote: vsoltan
            You, dear, either didn’t finish something, or you distort ...


            My position is simple! Nationalism should not determine politics, it should be determined by common interests, regardless of the origin and historical ties of various peoples.

            Quote: vsoltan
            Specify, please, a hundred, and - give arguments, arguments.


            In your opinion, how is integration with "blood brothers" better than with the ranks of the states of the Middle East, Central Asia, and the Far East less close to us in mentality and culture? is Euromaidan in the same "fraternal" Ukraine. I think this is enough to declare Pan-Slavism an unsuccessful theory ?!
            1. 0
              27 June 2014 01: 31
              Supertiger 21

              Any doctrine, theory is elevated, an example, and not the only one for that is Christianity ... the implementation is completely different ... individuals, politicians and states interpret in their own way ... ideals should be strived for ... but, in the interests of the nation, they are possible some digressions ... for the further development of the fundamental ... and some every minute benefit ... the whole history of the last millennia only convinces of this ... Pan-Slavism is good, but not worth it - and in this I completely agree with you - on the altar of theory bring private Russian life. As for the Islamic world - well, in our country there are Muslims too, more than a third ... and let them ... in any case, the Tatars do not separate themselves from the "Russians" in the broad sense of this meaning ... well, they pray in a different way, what is terrible here ... many old Tatar families happily merged into the Russian Empire ... and Muslims came from the previously immeasurable Caucasus - the eldest son of Shamil, imam of Dagestan and Chechnya, a deserved Russophobe, served as an officer in the Life Guards E. .at. Uhlan regiment / the younger, on the contrary, sat with the Turks as a marshal / ... examples of a peaceful and creative community of Slavs and Muslims in history are countless ... a separate topic ... but something does not come to mind the fruitful assistance of Russians with children from Turkmen , Tajik, Kyrgyz auls ... I can't remember, if you know what - write it down, the topic is really interesting ... so in terms of spiritual acceptance, as well as in economic achievements, no, I think we don't need them .. well no way ... I can only mention Alabaev, I keep the 4th generation, there is no smarter dog ... :-)
              1. 0
                27 June 2014 15: 14
                vsoltan in connection with affairs and also because of the Algeria-Russia match, I could not answer you yesterday! hi

                Quote: vsoltan
                Every teaching, theory is exalted, an example, and not the only one - Christianity ... the realization is completely different ... individuals, politicians and states interpret in their own way .... ideals should be sought ... but, in the interests of the nation are possible some digressions .. for the further development of the fundamental ... and a certain every-minute benefit .... the whole history over the past millennia convinces only of this ..


                I completely agree! Any ideological theory is not always correct and is a tool of the authorities to control the masses, including to divert the latter from the real problems of the people and the state. In this regard, Pan-Slavism has always been this tool.

                Quote: vsoltan
                well, they pray differently that this is terrible .... many old Tatar clans successfully joined the Russian empire ... and Muslims came from the unimaginable region of the Caucasus - the eldest son of Shamil, the imam of Dagestan and Chechnya, the honored Russophobe, served as an officer of the Life Guards e.i.v. the Uhlansky regiment / junior, on the contrary, sat with the Marshals among the Turks / ... there are no examples of a peaceful and constructive community of Slavs and Muslims in history ... a separate topic ...


                Well, you yourself gave an example that an ethnic group should not be an obstacle to achieving the goals of certain groups. It seems to me that religion lies in a slightly different direction than the nation, because. unlike her, she does not take into account genetic (blood) affiliation, but unites people on the basis of religion. In my opinion, this is a much stronger factor, and here, on the contrary, I believe that religion should be one of the main structures of society, but not ethnic since he, unlike religion, does not take into account common goals and aspirations).

                Quote: vsoltan
                but something does not come to mind the fruitful assistance of the Russians from the children of Turkmen, Tajik, Kyrgyz auls ..


                You are right in this, of course, but partnership with these countries is possible. You must deal with these countries even if only within the framework of your common interests.
                hi
  8. +2
    26 June 2014 18: 55
    By the way, from the environment of Yulia Tymoshenko the contents of her recent conversation with A. Yatsenyuk became known. The latter, they say, is greatly concerned about the manifestations of right-wing radicalism, and therefore, a possible solution to Yatsenyuk is seen in some form of transferring to Poland three Galician regions: Lviv, Ternopol and Ivano-Frankivsk
    Yes, and Tymoshenko and the entire junta with them. Indeed, they wanted to go to Europe. But who will take them? Who needs constant Maidan.
  9. His
    +11
    26 June 2014 19: 00
    Good song.
    1. +2
      26 June 2014 20: 09
      Yes .. Emotions are just .. they just hit on the nerves.
  10. +2
    26 June 2014 19: 03
    Is there any info about Stalin’s policy towards Ukrainians?
    1. His
      0
      26 June 2014 19: 22
      Download the book:
      Pykhalov I.V. - The great slandered war. Both books in one volume - 2009
  11. kowalski
    +4
    26 June 2014 19: 04
    It is a comment.
    A relative of my wife, a cartographer, a participant in the Second World War, during his service in 1945-1946, he went to survey in Transcarpathia (where I don't remember anymore, then somehow the Ukrainian SSR, and the Ukrainian SSR, without division by regions). Suddenly, tall guys come out in mixed uniform (forest brothers). Question (I don’t know, in Russian): "Who are you?" ... "" Cartographer "..." What are you doing? ".." I prepare maps, survey of the area "..." Come on, get ready. New Ukraine we need maps ... ". Silently left .. After that, in his words, he did not go out for topography without a submachine gun squad ... Not propaganda! There are names, surnames, positions
    And you say the revival of "nezalezhnosti" has just begun ... Genetics! Great Mendel! ...
  12. +2
    26 June 2014 19: 07
    Most likely it will.
  13. +3
    26 June 2014 19: 24
    Here it is - THE MOMENT OF TRUTH! The Slavic genocide on the outskirts and began with the Austro-Hungarian concentration camps for Transcarpathian Rusyns. Im and cards in hand to end the genocide. The second Front (western) ukroreich just can not stand physically and economically.
  14. +2
    26 June 2014 19: 25
    The redivision of the world is on. Any conflict in the country reveals all its diseases, and, first of all, national ones. For all time, the peoples have so mixed up that now all countries are like puzzles. On the one hand, nations can be understood, and on the other, each nation can not give its territory. This will be a complete mess, which will not lead to anything good.
  15. Russianin
    +4
    26 June 2014 19: 26
    Kiev kratels are preparing an "information screen".
    June 26th, 11: 24
    In the plantings around Sloviansk, Kramatorsk and Donetsk there are single burials of militants. This was announced on the air of the 112 Ukraine TV channel by I. about. Head of the Department for Work with the Personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Major General Alexander Rozmaznin. “We have data that in the plantings around Sloviansk, Kramatorsk, Donetsk there are people who were simply dug in, whom no one buried. We know where there are mass graves, but there are single graves, they (bodies - Ed.) Are wrapped in the film and buried, "he said.

    http://112.ua/obshchestvo/v-posadkah-vokrug-slavyanska-i-donecka-est-zakopannye-


    tela-boevikov-rozmaznin-79914.html

    The Ukrainian Armed Forces leadership is preparing an "information screen." A quick retreat of punishers from these regions and the excavation of hundreds of corpses from adjacent places will be all. But to prepare the information curtain for this it is necessary in advance.

    It seems that the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will never learn how to fight, and these fighters learned to cover their ass
  16. +8
    26 June 2014 19: 28
    If you give Galicia to the Poles, then it will be even better there. They have long been waiting for their slaves back. Well, you need to pay for Volyn.
    1. pahom54
      +1
      26 June 2014 20: 33
      for KUOLEMA
      I do not think that many of the members of the forum know the details about the relationship between Volhynia and Poland ... There is a separate discussion about this massacre ...
  17. +13
    26 June 2014 19: 29
    I have one dream, all r ..... dd corrupt and corrupt officials, etc. get out of the Carpathians. So Ruthenians aren’t so good because they write us down as Ukrintsy, the history of the land of taboos is at school. I first read Russian in Czech when the well-known books in Prague presented and left personal documents of the grandfather where the Rusinsk people were recorded. But I don’t think that our people will act like those in the east, many outside the cordon. Local bureaucrats, villains and bribe-takers do not need any order to interfere with various intermediaries, even here in the Czech Republic our svidomye against the Russian boitsa will have to live on the fact that he will earn money and there will be nobody to rob. I think the people for the Russians are against local parasites, we would put Putin or Lukashenka and the company of marines here. And so the mess in my head is a mess in the country. EVERYONE RESPECTED FOR ITSELF AND ALL BEAT M ........ But I think the process went by the autumn people will see the light, Svidomo will last for the next 1000 years and I will continue to think and behave appropriately
    1. +4
      26 June 2014 19: 52
      Therefore, you have preserved the Russian Spirit. After all, the hero Svyatogor also lived in the Carpathians. 500 years destroyed you but you remained Russian.
    2. +2
      26 June 2014 19: 52
      Therefore, you have preserved the Russian Spirit. After all, the hero Svyatogor also lived in the Carpathians. 500 years destroyed you but you remained Russian.
    3. 0
      26 June 2014 20: 58
      Well, yes, as they say - "chickens are counted in the fall", and God forbid that they see.
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  18. +4
    26 June 2014 19: 39
    Our president and government need to do more decisive actions. For example, the same South Ossetia, there was a genocide of civilians. Everything was quick and decisive, the Ossetians are grateful to Russia. And the fact that everyone squealed, in the entire "democratic" world, so do not care. We know their methods and their "democracy" with bombs. It is also necessary to finally understand that the war is going against the Slavs and Russia as the main cementing link of everything Slavic. It's time to become the defender of the Slavs and unite the fraternal peoples under your protectorate. If we do not help now and they lose, then soon we will not help ourselves either.
    1. 0
      26 June 2014 21: 02
      In Ossetia, there was a "slightly different situevina". Our peacekeepers were already there in accordance with the UN MANDATE. They began to kill ...
    2. +1
      26 June 2014 21: 02
      In Ossetia, there was a "slightly different situevina". Our peacekeepers were already there in accordance with the UN MANDATE. They began to kill ...
  19. +2
    26 June 2014 19: 52
    We must open a second front against the Nazis!
  20. 0
    26 June 2014 20: 02
    I would like to say so. It’s good that the Rusyns exist, but how do they assimilate themselves with Russia? Want to go to Russia? And what, in fact, prevented them from saying this 23 years ago?
    Who are Rusyns from Transcarpathia? Chervona Russia, Black Russia? Do they even remember that there is such a country as Russia? Or does it seem to them that we, according to Ukrainian history, are descendants of the Finno-Finns and are not good for them? It seems to me that no. If they wanted unity, then neither Kravchuk nor Kuchma would be allowed to come close to the authorities.
    1. 0
      26 June 2014 21: 42
      Quote: Iline
      I would like to say so. It’s good that the Rusyns exist, but how do they assimilate themselves with Russia? Want to go to Russia? And what, in fact, prevented them from saying this 23 years ago?
      Who are Rusyns from Transcarpathia? Chervona Russia, Black Russia? Do they even remember that there is such a country as Russia? Or does it seem to them that we, according to Ukrainian history, are descendants of the Finno-Finns and are not good for them? It seems to me that no. If they wanted unity, then neither Kravchuk nor Kuchma would be allowed to come close to the authorities.

      Chervona Russia is Galicia and Volhynia, and Transcarpathia is Subcarpathian Russia.
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    3. 0
      27 June 2014 02: 21
      Actually, assimilation is a mixture of people, language and cultures. And how should the Russians and the Russians assimilate? laughing
  21. +2
    26 June 2014 20: 03
    It is necessary to unite all fraternal peoples under the wing of RUSSIA.
    1. waisson
      +4
      26 June 2014 20: 10
      --------------- hi
  22. 11111mail.ru
    +4
    26 June 2014 20: 12
    Rusin = Rus wines. They beat the fascists with the Russians. http://topwar.ru/22187-chehoslovackie-formirovaniya-vo-vtoroy-mirovoy-voyne.html
    ... 1st Czechoslovak Separate Infantry Brigade. By September 1943, there were 3517 people in the brigade (more than 60% were Rusyns, the rest are Czechs, Slovaks, Russians and Jews).
  23. waisson
    +4
    26 June 2014 20: 13
    ------------- hi
  24. Leshka
    +1
    26 June 2014 20: 21
    we wait and hope good
  25. pahom54
    +2
    26 June 2014 20: 30
    There is a precedent: the Kaliningrad region, which exists almost as an enclave. Why would the population of Uzhgorod region not follow the example of the population of Crimea, - a referendum - the declaration of independence - a request to get under the wing of Russia on a federal (confederative) basis? Considering the importance of the gas pipeline running through the territory of the Uzhgorod region today, WHETHER, why not take them into the Russian Federation? I emphasize: only according to the scenario of the annexation of Crimea, and if not, let others get problems (Hungary, Romania and the outskirts ...)
    1. 0
      27 June 2014 01: 02
      Under the wing of Russia? Hardly. Recently, three soldiers who died in the Donbas were brought to Uzhgorod. Conscripts were ambushed by the "militia". They were buried on the Hill of Glory, where the soldiers who died in the Great Patriotic War lie. So the attitude of the overwhelming majority of the population of Transcarpathia to what is happening in the East of Ukraine is very unambiguous.
  26. Ivan 63
    +3
    26 June 2014 20: 31
    Once again, you see the greatness of Stalin, it was not for nothing that he raised a separate toast for the health of the Russian People. And Ukraine is a stillborn entity, even without Crimea, not a cap for Senka.
  27. +1
    26 June 2014 20: 36
    Stalin understood what bomb was planted when the republics were created on a national basis in the 20s. It’s a pity he didn’t manage to realize his ideas. Too many territories historically, ethnically, and culturally associated with indigenous Russia were given to other republics.
  28. +1
    26 June 2014 20: 48
    Nothing good to see dill, the country will fall apart like drying sand. It is only a pity that certain peoples can go into oblivion, such as the same Rusyns. I can’t imagine how Russia can help (except for energy) Rusyns. If dill is now at the behest of the Yankees - Obama will send troops there, then how can we help?
  29. Gexzloy
    +1
    26 June 2014 20: 52
    Quote: herruvim
    If you eliminate all the gifts, that’s what can remain of Ukraine, one has already been taken away, for ill-treatment, the others themselves leave

    according to the map KIEV ALSO presented to Ukraine?
    1. 0
      26 June 2014 21: 00
      Quote from GexZloy
      according to the map KIEV ALSO presented to Ukraine?


      Perhaps with gifts on the map a bit went too far, but the fact remains. 8 Ukrainian regions were presented by Vladimir Ilyich in 1918, although before that they had always been inhabited by the Russian-speaking population (not even Little Russian, namely the Russian). Now the people demand justice and exile. Bandera yoke! am
    2. 0
      26 June 2014 21: 53
      Quote from GexZloy
      Quote: herruvim
      If you eliminate all the gifts, that’s what can remain of Ukraine, one has already been taken away, for ill-treatment, the others themselves leave

      according to the map KIEV ALSO presented to Ukraine?

      Kiev - Mother of Russian Cities!
      The map is just paper, Ukraine is just the outskirts, and Kiev is not the outskirts.
  30. 0
    26 June 2014 21: 36
    Hoh-ly, do not freak out, go back, why do you need stupid bondage, -vroppa will suck you, fuck you in the ass, what a "wonderful" share ...
  31. Gexzloy
    -2
    26 June 2014 21: 49
    Quote: supertiger21
    8 Ukrainian regions were donated by Vladimir Ilyich in 1918

    I didn’t read for everyone, for example Odessa.
    The territory was captured after three Russian-Turkish wars, do you think Ukrainians did not participate in the war?

    Quote: supertiger21
    before that they were always populated by the Russian-speaking population

    I beg you, who just didn’t settle there, walk through old Odessa.

    According to the article
    Bandera is also Russian! Unexpected turn. Draw a map already to understand where the Russians are and where not.
    1. 0
      27 June 2014 15: 29
      Quote from GexZloy
      The territory was captured after three Russian-Turkish wars, do you think Ukrainians did not participate in the war?


      Then the concept of "Ukrainian" from an ethnic point of view did not exist. And in general, the genetic ancestors of Ukrainians at that time were still part of the Commonwealth. In the war for the Northern Black Sea region, the majority of the Russian regular army, consisting mostly of ethnic Russians, took part. the dialect in the newly annexed lands was also Great Russian and differed from the Ukrainian dialects.

      Quote from GexZloy
      Bandera is also Russian!


      I do not consider him as such. And here is Bandera. This Russophobe does not come from the Russian Empire at all, but from Galicia, which was at that time part of Austria-Hungary. In this country, the ideology of "hostile Russia" and "the ancient Ukrainian nation began. "After the revolution, this ideology spread to the Ukrainian lands in Russia. Who is Bandera and what does this have to do with the main Ukrainian nation? I conventionally attribute him to the" Galician nation "and not to the Ukrainians.
    2. 0
      28 June 2014 17: 22
      Quote from GexZloy
      I didn’t read for everyone, for example Odessa.
      The territory was captured after three Russian-Turkish wars, do you think Ukrainians did not participate in the war?
      Quote: supertiger21
      before that they were always populated by the Russian-speaking population
      I beg you, who just didn’t settle there, walk through old Odessa.

      participated, the same Golovaty. It’s just that the Russian army really consisted mainly of people from central provinces. Representatives of the Little Russian province began to be massively recruited later (for example, World War I — then there were Ukrainians on either side of the front)
      In general, there were not enough Ukrainians as such. But no one argues (except for nationalists) that Odessa is not founded by Ukrainians. Well, Ukrainian is not the language of communication in Odessa. It's just that there is another problem of statehood and the Russian language in Ukraine.
  32. kowalski
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    26 June 2014 23: 08
    Enough debate! We watch football and cheer for OURS !!! If they lose, we'll get enough sleep, if they win, we'll continue the topic ... -
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  34. +1
    27 June 2014 00: 53
    The author of the article is not familiar with the history of Transcarpathia. Why is it not mentioned about Transcarpathian Ukraine? Yes, it existed for nothing, but it was. And the Hutsul Republic, which later became part of the West Ukrainian Republic? It’s better not to mention facts that do not fit in with a convenient consonance, RUSin-RUS, right? About Orthodoxy is also not true. Most Transcarpathian so-called Ruthenians have always been Greek Catholics. Orthodoxy became widespread after the First World War, and even more so in Khust and Rakhiv districts.
    The influence of Getz in Transcarpathia is negligible. If you do not believe it, just read what he promised and compare with what is really happening. Are there any roadblocks in Transcarpathia? Or maybe mass rallies?
    The rallies, however, were. Here is an amateur video from one of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP2Gg7wdUj8
    So it is not worth building illusions about Transcarpathia, less trust Getzk and similar guys.
  35. 0
    27 June 2014 02: 55
    Note that the situation in Transcarpathia is directly related to the economic interests of the Russian Federation: up to 65%, the volume of gas exported from Russia to Europe has been pumped through the Transcarpathian region since the middle of the 1970s.
    Does the Kremlin need to clarify?
  36. Cheldon
    0
    27 June 2014 05: 11
    Auto RU! Thank you for the article. He once lived in Mukachevo. The article is comprehensive, there is nothing to add.