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Ahead "decisive phase" of the ATO

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Ahead "decisive phase" of the ATOThe man who never under any circumstances removes his helmet, even if it is a question of sending strictly intimate needs that do not require participation in the ATO, counted: “separatists,” “terrorists” and “quilted jackets” have violated forty-seven times since last Friday ceasefire agreement. " Tymchuk, of course, can be trusted. He is Ukraine’s largest expert in sabotage and reconnaissance groups, identifying them on the basis of excrement residues and used products of the Mtsensk rubber plant. The rebels are accused of violating the regime of the ATO forces, who regularly bombard a number of settlements, including in the area of ​​the Ukrainian-Russian border.

In addition, cases of undermining of railways became more frequent. For 12 hours - 6 explosions on the Donetsk railway. If you add the same actions over the past two days, then we can talk about a full-blown rail war. Who leads it is not clear. And finally, yesterday a Mi-8 helicopter was shot down exactly on Mount Karachun. The Ministry of Defense officially confirmed the presence of nine corpses, four of which are SBU officers. The president threatened that the temporary ceasefire could be terminated ahead of schedule. As for me, this will not be done, since it is planned for June 27 "historical event ”in the form of signing an association agreement between Ukraine and the EU. If you notice, then no one cares about association and European integration against the background of a "ceasefire" in the southeast. How will events develop further?

First, the clashes will continue in the civil war zone, which is still embarrassedly referred to as the three-letter abbreviation (ATO). The army is currently a poorly managed union, consisting of various units that do not have the slightest coordination. The Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Security Service of Ukraine, the National Guard, the army, more than thirty "special forces", each of which operates according to its own schedule. Coordination - zero. The level of combat training is “we will show everybody pokazhemo and budemo”. Plus, the current acting minister of defense will go into deep retirement, and it’s unclear who will take his place. Clearly, when the question of leadership is being decided, no one at all is inclined to show any zeal. Koval was offered to work in the NSDC as Deputy Parubiy. The issue is also being resolved with Mr. Krutov, as if the acting head of the Anti-Terrorism Center. The man in Kasga shouts that he is a traitor to the Motherland and a traitor. Perhaps he was able to investigate Krutov’s litter and find all the same canned meat of the Mtsensk Plant there. Who knows ... I personally do not know. Because I don't have a helmet. Now, if it was, then it is quite another matter.

On the one hand, the uncontrolled concentration of the mass of troops, on the other - the resistance forces that were offered to either put down weaponand then be shot, or be shot first, and then automatically lay down their arms. Excellent and very humane choice, which, you see, inspires. What is their motive for supporting the cease-fire? I doubt that everyone will flee to throw out the AK when they find out that the president submitted to the Verkhovna Rada a draft of the new Constitution, which presupposes “unprecedented decentralization of power” and “the status of the Ukrainian language as the only state language”.

Secondly, there is information that another meeting of the “contact group” on “resolving the situation” will take place. The first was held in Donetsk and ended with a cease-fire agreement. Execute the agreement failed. One of the reasons is the extremely tangled way of representing the “Ukrainian side”. In the AP claim that Kiev was represented by one Leonid Kuchma. In his old age, Leonid Danilovich became a patriot of Ukraine, as well as an honorary zits-chairman at numerous political gatherings of his son-in-law patron. Nobody knows what his powers are, because there is an official "authorized to resolve the conflict in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions." This is a “real Bandera” (as she positions herself) Irina Gerashchenko. Kuchma, according to the official version, met with Poroshenko, and he asked for it. That's all. As it turned out recently, Viktor Medvedchuk also does not understand whom he represents. The OSCE claims to be rebels. Medvedchuk says: not everything is so simple, guys. I've been walking past the presidential administration, Poroshenko called me and asked. In addition, everyone remembers that the participation of Medvedchuk announced and Putin. However, it is unlikely that he represents the Russian side, otherwise why is Zurab present at the talks? What does in the contact group Shufrich - no one knows. Probably, Nestor Ivanovich went by the AP and unexpectedly met Medvedchuk, who offered him a trip to Donetsk. Supporters of conspiracy theories of conspiracy claim that Shufrich sent Tymoshenko. She allegedly wanted to participate herself, but she was not given. There is Oleg Tsarev, positioned as the leader of the South-East movement, but with very little influence on the leadership of the DPR and the LPR. I understand that it is necessary to excel in the formation of a contact group, since no one officially talks with “terrorists” and “separatists”. So it turns out a strange combination of characters. However, such contacts should be continued. At least in order to indicate the direction of the transition to the essence of the negotiation process. And the bottom line is this: in the “terrorist-anti-terrorist” format, the effectiveness of the negotiation process is zero. Need to change the concept.

Thirdly, more and more the most realistic variant of the continuation of the ATO emerges. Nothing new. All the same "decisive blow to the nest of terrorists" with the support of sharply "the sight of the local population." Peace talks were? Were The cease-fire was? It was, but frustrated by the fault of the leadership of the republics, which does not control the rebels. Constitution made? Have made. Here you have the excuse for a decisive tank strike. The new Minister of Defense, the regrouping of forces, the demand of the “public” to strengthen integrity and so on. Again, "the decisive phase of the ATO."
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  1. johnsnz
    johnsnz 26 June 2014 07: 14
    +9
    I repeat - the militias did not offer any truce. Only in response to a complete ceasefire! And it is useless to count who violated. Each side has its own opinion. Observers could give an objective picture of what is happening, but they will not go to the "hot spot". And negotiations should be conducted and negotiated only by the leadership of the parties, and not by the Kuchma and Gerashchinki!
    1. Момент
      Момент 26 June 2014 07: 58
      0
      It seems to me that Kiev would have come to terms with the separation of the Southeast, but the senior comrades do not order them.
      Therefore, help of various kinds is delivered.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 26 June 2014 08: 19
        +4
        Quote: Moment
        It seems to me that Kiev would have come to terms with the separation of the Southeast

        Not yet reconciled. No.
        And the way to get him to do this is one - military (unacceptable losses) defeat and economic collapse. And also, preferably, fear for your personal skin, which will arise when eliminating a pair of odious figures.
      2. yushch
        yushch 26 June 2014 10: 50
        -2
        With the loss of the Southeast, as well as with the loss of Crimea, Kiev will never put up with it and there is no need to build illusions.
        It’s another matter that with all the Kiev insanity they understand the real state of affairs and how not to tell this problem itself will not be solved. The only way out here is to agree, and let’s see how it will be done.
    2. Sanglier
      Sanglier 26 June 2014 09: 18
      0
      Maybe a little wrong, but Wolf and Dulles were talking about the armistice between Germany and the United States in World War II. And, I think, if Soviet intelligence had not "pushed through" these meetings, they would have come to an agreement. This is me about the persons conducting the current negotiations.
  2. nils
    nils 26 June 2014 07: 17
    +4
    "... why is Zurabov present at the talks?"

    This is another strong move of Russia.
    Again, everyone was misled.
  3. mig31
    mig31 26 June 2014 07: 21
    +1
    Either the lords, or gone - the second is inevitable, the junta kaput ...
    1. mig31
      mig31 26 June 2014 07: 58
      +2
      Someone I see behind the juntens - bastards, well, well ..
  4. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 26 June 2014 07: 22
    +5
    The purpose of the junta is to free the lands of the South = East as much as possible, whoever is killed, who will leave for Russia and who will remain, will drive concentration camps, which are being massively built in the west of Ukraine, and who will be killed after brutal torture.
    Lord, do not allow confrontation to such an outcome, punish the Kiev junta and their leaders, both from the United States and from the EU.
  5. evilrussian
    evilrussian 26 June 2014 07: 26
    +3
    I hope that the east will win. If this does not happen, then the truth will lose, and that means we.
    1. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 26 June 2014 07: 35
      +4
      Quote: evilrussian
      I hope that the east will win. If this does not happen, then the truth will lose, and that means we.

      Yes, it will win! But at what cost? Something needs to be decided, but "we" again made a clever maneuver in the person of the president and the government. It seems that everyone is pissing, and people die for nothing! IMHO!
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      2. alexng
        alexng 26 June 2014 08: 05
        +2
        Are you probably already in the DNI or LC? Or chatting, not carrying bags. To make any decision, you need to have brains, and not to wave your saber. There are only two choices: one to squeeze out two breakaway areas and get hemorrhoids from the rest of it for the rest of your life or squeeze out the whole of Ukraine, but without the western regions. Your thoughts work for our opponent.
        1. FANTOM-72
          FANTOM-72 26 June 2014 08: 34
          +3
          Quote: alexneg
          or wring out all of Ukraine

          True, Russia will have to destroy a couple of million zapadentsev, but they are not ours.
          And another ten million people burry berdanks in cities until better times and everything in a circle.
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          2. alexng
            alexng 26 June 2014 10: 48
            0
            Russia will not destroy anyone and will not intervene either. This is a civil war and all the militias of the new formations will decide, and plus Mr. hunger, and cold, i.e. own people of Ukraine.
            1. FANTOM-72
              FANTOM-72 26 June 2014 11: 04
              +1
              Quote: alexneg
              Russia will not destroy anyone and will not intervene either.

              It was immediately clear. Otherwise, see above.

              Militant screamers annoy with tearing.
      3. Predator
        Predator 26 June 2014 08: 36
        +4
        Let me disagree with you! What the civilians get is done on purpose, with the task of driving them to Russia. Militias defend their right to live without fascism. All soldiers in the combat zone! And the fact that the war continues will be said more than once .Without war, Kiev does not get money, it is necessary to answer the questions of the population why it is so bad with us: where are pensions, social services, work, why is everything so expensive, etc.And supposedly a truce is more beneficial for the militia, while they have a lot of parts of the border I think they got it, so Kiev is expecting a surprise and not bad. We wish them good luck and life!
      4. Sanglier
        Sanglier 26 June 2014 09: 21
        0
        Your specific suggestions? And such that the victims were fewer or even do without them.
        1. FANTOM-72
          FANTOM-72 26 June 2014 09: 43
          +2
          Quote: Sanglier
          so that there are fewer victims, or even do without them.

          You need to solve the problem by politics. In general, there will be no victims, even in a tavern fight, there are victims. The introduction of the army will increase the victims from the region to the country (and what is important, then they will become national heroes and patriots because against the invaders) and Ukrainian propaganda about the attack of bloodthirsty Russia will become a reality for the average person.
  6. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 26 June 2014 07: 28
    +2
    A bastard, start from the beginning, the junta decided to defeat its army to the end, because it is not going to linger for a long time in Kiev, the constant expectation of retaliation for its crimes against the people and sitting on its suitcases so worn out the junta’s nerves that they would at least now be dumped over the hill but an order from Washington, everyone to stay in their places.
    1. Sanglier
      Sanglier 26 June 2014 09: 23
      0
      A possible option, the army can also ask for being dragged into the "meat grinder". I'm not talking about "PS", these need to be reset.
  7. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 26 June 2014 07: 28
    +4
    All Kiev's actions are to create a "smokescreen" around Donbass and an attempt to shift the responsibility for the committed atrocities onto anyone, it’s no secret that it’s already becoming clear that it’s impossible to defeat the insurgent people, and in light of this and out of fear of the future responsibility, Kiev " all serious "! Under the guise of negotiations, a regrouping of anti-terrorist operation forces is underway, but the Army of Novorossia is not asleep, and the West is gradually beginning to understand the essence of what is happening and give correct assessments to Parasha's plans! The day when all these criminals will appear before the International Criminal Court is not far was to see a number of puppeteers)!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 June 2014 08: 14
      +4
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      The day is not far off when all these criminals will appear before the International Criminal Court (

      Are you talking about The Hague? Well then, yes, how they will appear and be justified.
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 26 June 2014 11: 40
        +2
        Excuse me, Alexander, but I meant the ICC, which will be created in Donetsk and will sit on the ruins of Slavyansk, so that criminals and judges can see the results of crimes! (But this is a dream) The Hague tribune is a profanation of international law and a tool for reprisal against those who disagree with US policy what Carla Del Ponte spoke about by the way.
  8. sv68
    sv68 26 June 2014 07: 29
    +2
    only a person far from the realities of life could think that the "truce" is serious and for a long time. Katleta is lying and will not tame this massacre, because he himself may end up on a spit, the owners are impatient to start drilling land near Sloviansk to extract shale gas and the civilian population just an extra link in their plans
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 26 June 2014 07: 41
    +3
    A theater with a "truce" .. In the hope that the militias will lose their vigilance and with one decisive blow the khuntai will put an end to them, again show the West ... we are good, they are bad boys, you see they need to be killed ... And the West, yes, yes .. kill ... that is. With these actions, Potroshenko actually received a license to kill, the West will no longer accuse him of genocide ..
  10. Gorjelin
    Gorjelin 26 June 2014 07: 48
    +3
    For the DNI and LC, the truce is a respite. It is necessary to replenish stocks of cartridges and shells, to transfer additional forces, to strengthen positions ...
  11. aleks700
    aleks700 26 June 2014 07: 52
    +4
    First, clashes will continue in the civil war zone, which is still bashfully referred to as the three-letter abbreviation (ATO)
    . Firstly, you need to understand that this is not a civil war, but a war between Ukraine on the one hand and the Lugansk and Donetsk republics on the other. It is time to understand that Ukrainian troops do not destroy their people, but destroy the population of the above-mentioned republics.
  12. azbukin77
    azbukin77 26 June 2014 07: 53
    +2
    I don’t want to discuss a truce, to guess whether they will produce gas or oil, one thing I know for sure, the southeast will win, it will certainly win !!!!! Because it is PEOPLE! And the people cannot be defeated !!!!!!!!!!!
  13. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 26 June 2014 08: 08
    +2
    The war didn’t end so soon in dill, which was not why the Americans started it and actively supported the geniropa, where it constantly smells bad. The Nazis also need a continuation of the war in the form of Kolmoysky, Parubiy, and other bastards, otherwise they will not be needed for anything else. You will not envy the fate of the rebels of the DNI and LC, who are in great need of long-range artillery. If they had been with them, that confrontation would immediately have changed.
    1. FANTOM-72
      FANTOM-72 26 June 2014 08: 39
      +1
      Quote: Anchonsha
      If they had been with them, that confrontation would immediately have changed.

      Has already. Looks damp from the start.
  14. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 26 June 2014 08: 12
    +1
    kartalovkolya (4) EN
    The day is not far off when all these criminals will appear before the International Criminal Court (but it would be nice to see a number of puppeteers)!

    Do you hope that the "entertainers" will judge themselves?
  15. shibi
    shibi 26 June 2014 08: 13
    +1
    First, clashes will continue in the civil war zone, which is still bashfully referred to as the three-letter abbreviation (ATO).

    stubbornly sends his warrior in three letters ...
  16. FANTOM-72
    FANTOM-72 26 June 2014 08: 28
    +1
    on excrement residues and used products of the Mtsensk Rubber Products Plant.

    By smell or taste ???
  17. muhomor
    muhomor 26 June 2014 08: 38
    0
    Who knows? Did they take the base in Artyomovsk or not?
  18. fevg
    fevg 26 June 2014 09: 15
    +1
    Kuchma yearned for communication in Russian, Zurabov for "mov". We went to Donetsk and talked ... The locals swore at them without translation. The carnage continues, WHAT?
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 26 June 2014 09: 40
    +1
    Kuchma was invited by Kiev as a wedding general and only, he really does not decide anything, although he has access to quite significant people both from one side and the other, i.e. phone and nothing more. Losses in the ATO are significant and it is no longer possible to hide them, therefore the "truce" was started with the aim of redeploying troops and removing them. But the means to continue the war are no longer enough and the "warriors" are tired and demoralized, sabotage in the Ukrainian army is growing ... soldier