Croatian assault bullpup rifle VHS-2

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HS Produkt, headquartered in Croatian Karlovac, in recent years has managed to confidently master a substantial share of the global market for military and civilian semi-automatic weapons. Since the late nineties, the world has learned about the HS2000 model, which has evolved into many different modifications. The proliferation of weapons of this type took over the American firm "Springfield Armory LLC". Model XD, XDM and XDS pistols were offered to the final buyer, who had time to perfectly prove themselves not only in Europe, the website reports all4shooters.com.

To improve ergonomic weapon performance, the company decided to upgrade the texture of the rifle pistol grip for VHS-2. After the modernization, the shooters began to notice a stronger grip, which also contributed to an increase in the accuracy of shooting.



History Croatian company remembers the period when the company was called "IM Metal". The weapons of this company were used during the so-called war of independence from Yugoslavia (we are talking about the independence of Croatia). Weapons had to "taste" many shooters, and his improvement led to the expansion of the boundaries of markets.

One of the stages of product development from a Croatian company is the release of an assault rifle Višenamjenska Hrvatska Strojnica - the very VHS. The first rifle of this type saw the light about 6 years ago. Its distinctive feature is the bullpup layout, as well as the “NATO” caliber 5.56x45mm. This rifle was honored in the tests and soon became operational in the Croatian army. After the introduction of this rifle, the Croatian armed forces began to actively reduce the number of used foreign small arms - first of all it was about the rejection of the Soviet AKM.

But it should be noted that not all members of the Croatian army were enthusiastic about VHS. Its ergonomic parameters were declared incomplete. Then the company decided to collect comments and suggestions of Croatian soldiers and take them into account when changing the parameters of small arms. The proposal was collected for a long time, after which the company "HS Produkt" and presented a variant of VHS-2.

Croatian assault bullpup rifle VHS-2


For the first time, these small arms were seen at exhibitions in the city of Split. The next stage is entering the world stage through the arms exhibition in Paris. The EUROSATORY 2014 exhibition has become an opportunity for a VHS-2 manufacturing company to open up new markets. Does the new rifle have significant differences from what the Croatian military 6 did not so unconditionally liked about years ago? There is.



This is the presence of two variants of the barrel (with lengths 41 cm and 50 cm), the use of high-strength polymer compounds and non-ferrous metals.



In this case, the rifle is equipped with a detachable magazine for 30 cartridges, which was also characteristic of VHS. But the main changes are not connected with the materials used, but with the changed location of the firing mode switch. Now it was installed above the pistol grip, which made the use of the switch more convenient. It is said that even with gloves you can change modes without any problems.

Another innovation is the adjustable butt and cheek stock.



Now, using the adjustment, you can adjust the weapon's ergonomics for your own individual parameters. The bilateral arrangement of a window for departing sleeves allows you to set up a weapon for right-handers or left-handers in order to insure against possible injury.

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  1. +3
    25 June 2014 08: 31
    Well, I don’t know, all sorts of bolts, caps, ryushechki, beautiful of course, but how will she behave in a wet trench? If they gave me a choice of thong or knickers, I would not hesitate to choose knickers, especially in winter.
  2. +4
    25 June 2014 09: 02
    It looks great, of course, but at the same time there is a strong feeling that this rifle is the fruit of love by the French Famas and the German G36 (I don’t know why, just such an association slipped).
    1. Alex_Popovson
      0
      25 June 2014 09: 52
      G36 I don’t see, but the receiver is liquefied from Famas, it's 101%
      1. +1
        25 June 2014 10: 38
        Anglican Wikipedia writes that the gas outlet system is the same as that of SCARs. And FAMAS has a semi-free shutter.
      2. +2
        25 June 2014 12: 01
        Quote: Alex_Popovson
        that rifle is the fruit of the love of the French Famas and the German G36

        A year ago, Kirill Karasik wrote about the first generation of this rifle.
        Abroad, too, many write that the designers, creating the VHS assault rifle, were inspired by "Clarion" and Tavor.
        This product has a flaw that is present in many, starting with M-16:
        the presence of small parts.
        How to present the disassembly and cleaning of this rifle in the field ...

        1. Alex_Popovson
          +1
          25 June 2014 12: 26
          Do you think there will be a certification of this babah as a civilian weapon in the Russian Federation?
          1. 0
            25 June 2014 12: 37
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            Will there be certification of this woman as a civilian weapon in the Russian Federation?

            To complete the range of only Croatian weapons and not enough.
            Let's start with the fact that on the official website of the manufacturer there is no information about the civil version,
            and who will sell the full version of the civil?
            1. 0
              25 June 2014 12: 45
              Here are the 2 versions that are currently being produced:



        2. 0
          26 June 2014 00: 38
          I can’t say about plastic in small arms — in my time they weren’t used in such quantities — but I somehow read the statement of one veteran of the English SAS — I would never have taken a plastic rifle into battle.
          I repeat, this is a purely third-party opinion, and I myself do not have experience in dealing with such products.
      3. +1
        25 June 2014 21: 07
        Do you imagine FAMAS well?

        (incomplete disassembly before the 16 second)
        The only thing it reminds me of is the flimsy AR-15.

        True, only because of the characteristic "curtain" on the cartridge case ejection window.
        1. 0
          25 June 2014 23: 30
          Quote: luiswoo
          Do you imagine FAMAS well?

          I meant the external resemblance of the "Clarion" and the Croatian rifle.
    2. +1
      25 June 2014 14: 54
      So I remembered FOMAS.
  3. +3
    25 June 2014 09: 38
    And then there should be a joke about VHS and DVD.
  4. +1
    25 June 2014 09: 48
    as I understand it, all bullpap schemes suffer from one common drawback: the cartridges are thrown out next to the face and powder gases next to the eyes, which causes irritation and a decrease in accuracy when shooting
    1. +2
      25 June 2014 16: 03
      Not all, apparently.
      Our Tabor has long been in the army. And was more than 7 years in trials
      in one infantry brigade. And the soldiers in Israel are demanding:
      if the powder gases interfered with the eyes, the noise would rise to
      Minister of Defense and Prime Minister!
      angry
      1. dervis 65
        +6
        25 June 2014 16: 49
        The son says that the tavor has many delays. I would take our galil. Once again I’m convinced that everything new is well forgotten old. AK is too early to write off and galil is its derivative.
        1. +2
          25 June 2014 17: 13
          What kind of delays?
          The M-16 was always one - not sending a cartridge. You distort
          and further. But never stuck.
      2. dervis 65
        0
        25 June 2014 16: 49
        The son says that the tavor has many delays. I would take our galil. Once again I’m convinced that everything new is well forgotten old. AK is too early to write off and galil is its derivative.
        1. +3
          25 June 2014 17: 10
          I was with Galil in the early 90s. Not a gift.
          Heavy and godlessly "mowed" (rear sight strip on the cover,
          and the lid loosens).
  5. +5
    25 June 2014 10: 10
    As far as I remember, initially in the VHS machine it was supposed to use the gas buffer for rolling back the bolt group, but subsequently this idea was abandoned in view of the complexity and high cost (more details here http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/hr/vhs- r.html). And again, the ubiquitous polymers, and what is their advantage over steel? The weight gain is doubtful, for example, take the FN SCAR-L / Mk.16 automatic machine as standard with a barrel of 355 mm, the weight of this device without cartridges is 3,5 kg, and take our good old Kalash, AK74M / AK12 - 3,4 / 3,3 kg, even the steel structure comes out easier, the strength of the polymers is also in question, the steel looks more reliable, the strength of the polymer also depends on its thickness, which leads to an increase in the dimensions of the weapon. The only fat plus of polymers is the high cost, i.e. the arms manufacturer will get rich 2 times faster.
  6. +2
    25 June 2014 10: 20
    Quote: bmv04636
    as I understand it, all bullpap schemes suffer from one common drawback: the cartridges are thrown out next to the face and powder gases next to the eyes, which causes irritation and a decrease in accuracy when shooting

    In the FN2000, the sleeves are not extracted from the side, but assembled into a special tube. The tube runs parallel to the barrel and casings are ejected from the front of the weapon. In the VHS rifle, it is surprising that there are a lot of bends and "snares" in the area of ​​the store and in particular. In the field, all these parts will collect debris and dirt - it will be a pleasure to clean it after the battle.
  7. +2
    25 June 2014 10: 47
    Quote: MORDVIN13rus
    The weight gain is doubtful, for example, take the FN SCAR-L / Mk.16 automatic machine as standard with a barrel of 355 mm, the weight of this device without cartridges is 3,5 kg, and take our good old Kalash, AK74M / AK12 - 3,4 / 3,3 kg, even the steel structure comes out easier, the strength of the polymers is also in question, the steel looks more reliable, the strength of the polymer also depends on its thickness, which leads to an increase in the dimensions of the weapon.

    Yes, but if you install a telescopic butt on the AK-74, make a replaceable module on the FN, hang the weaver bars, then how much will the steel AK weigh? Polymers have steel advantages and advantages: less weight with equal strength characteristics, any form in the manufacture, cheaper in mass production.
    1. +3
      25 June 2014 11: 23
      Not for nothing I mentioned AK12, everything that you listed is present, the trunk change unit will add 100 grams no more, because. the barrel is fixed using a swivel joint or a pin, so there are no advantages, and the polymer price, even with mass production, is incomparably higher than the steel structure, so your statement cannot be criticized.
      1. Victor-cort
        +1
        25 June 2014 11: 43
        Quote: MORDVIN13rus
        No wonder I mentioned AK12

        And in vain they mentioned, an extremely wretched creation, in which all the shortcomings of the AK (for example, the mount of optics) were not solved.
        1. +6
          25 June 2014 11: 54
          What kind of optics mount do you mean ??? Specify, because I'm not versed, maybe I have vision problems, and I don’t distinguish picatinny guides from dovetail mounts
          1. Victor-cort
            +1
            25 June 2014 14: 04
            Quote: MORDVIN13rus
            What kind of optics mount do you mean ??? Specify, because I'm not versed, maybe I have vision problems, and I don’t distinguish picatinny guides from dovetail mounts

            I am not aware of the quality of your vision, but I don’t know for sure that mounting a picatini on the movable lid of the receiver is accurate.
            1. +4
              25 June 2014 16: 31
              The front cover of the receiver on the AK12 has a hinge in front and an additional latch on the back, and the bolt group in the extreme rear position acts on the receiver itself, and not on its lid, as before, through the spring latch. Or do you mean that the receiver’s pin connection, more reliable, and more preferably for the installation of optics?
              1. Victor-cort
                +2
                25 June 2014 17: 39
                Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                . Or do you want to say that the pin connection of the receiver is more reliable and more preferable for installing optics?

                do you want to say no? :)
                Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                The receiver cover on the AK12 has a hinged front and an additional latch on the back

                any joint breaks during operation. Especially since this particular hinge, the receiver cover, is stably used during disassembly and the play there will appear sooo fast.
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                3. +3
                  25 June 2014 20: 23
                  Quote: Victor-Cort
                  Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                  . Or do you want to say that the pin connection of the receiver is more reliable and more preferable for installing optics?

                  do you want to say no? :)
                  Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                  The receiver cover on the AK12 has a hinged front and an additional latch on the back

                  any joint breaks during operation. Especially since this particular hinge, the receiver cover, is stably used during disassembly and the play there will appear sooo fast.

                  Then please tell us the procedure for parsing the machine, the receiver of which is connected to the USM unit, using a pin? As a sample FN SCAR
                  1. Victor-cort
                    0
                    25 June 2014 22: 55
                    Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                    Then please tell us the procedure for parsing the machine, the receiver of which is connected to the USM unit, using a pin? As a sample FN SCAR

                    I have no idea, did not make out. But I dismantled the AKS74U (the lid with a hinge has been going on them for a long time already), so I assure you that it will certainly loosen up, moreover, I’m sure it will have play right from the factory.
                    1. +1
                      25 June 2014 23: 58
                      I’ve been the user of the AKS5U for 74 years now, I’m laid out by state, and still have no backlash, although the machine is 87 years old. I shoot every 2-3 stores every week, and I sleep with it every third month, since the battery gets on the battlefield. And the hinge may someday start, due to an unsuccessful latch latch, which is also a return spring guide, in AK3 this assembly has been redesigned, the lid is fixed by a separate element and is not connected to the return spring guide anyway. model , in most samples, when disassembling, the rear cotter pin is removed, the machine breaks in half and is further disassembled. And I don’t think that when the bolt frame is rolled back, the locking cotter pins and seats for them experience less stress, and is a more reliable connection than the hinge on AK12, this is the question of optics.
                      1. Victor-cort
                        0
                        26 June 2014 01: 08
                        Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                        and still has no backlash

                        this backlash is always there, just at the ranges that the AKS74U is used and they are invisible when the scope is open ... put the optics on and be very surprised, the weight of the optics + burst shooting = broken-down cover.
                        Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                        AK12 this unit has been redesigned, the cover is fixed by a separate element

                        it was not they who first came up with it ... when remaking AKmoids (it seems to be Krebs), they generally let a separate bar over the cover of the shutter frame - it still gets loose.
                        Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                        And I don’t think that when rolling back the bolt frame, the locking cotter pins and seats for them, experience less stress, and is a more reliable connection

                        it doesn’t matter there, because the sight is tightly fastened (through the upper receiver) to the barrel (or to the barrel coupling on systems with interchangeable barrels) and the scope is stationary relative to the barrel.
                        AK is good for everyone, but it’s not for optics ..
                      2. 0
                        26 June 2014 10: 08
                        It doesn’t matter, or you didn’t study physics at school. Nobody has yet repealed the law of mass movement. Even if the sight is firmly fastened (through the upper receiver) to the barrel, as you say that there is no truth (or the optics are tightly welded. therefore, over time, the mounts will also loose. Or do you think you set the scope, and forgot, but no, after a certain period of operation, the mounts are pulled, the scope is aligned and the weapon is aimed
                      3. Victor-cort
                        0
                        26 June 2014 13: 11
                        Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                        It doesn’t matter, or you didn’t study physics at school. Nobody has yet repealed the law of mass movement. Even if the sight is firmly fastened (through the upper receiver) to the barrel, as you say that there is no truth (or the optics are tightly welded. therefore, over time, the mounts will also loose. Or do you think you set the scope, and forgot, but no, after a certain period of operation, the mounts are pulled, the scope is aligned and the weapon is aimed

                        Once again, the circuit with the upper receiver has long established itself as a much more reliable and robust design for the installation of optics. If you have other data, prove it.
                      4. 0
                        26 June 2014 15: 39
                        Who proved where proved ??? Someone conducted the research data ??? and foreigners do not shy from setting the bars on the hinged lids. Ah yes it's a machine gun, not an automatic machine !!! belay . Only that the hinge is subjected to a greater load in the machine gun, due to the intensity of the fire, and the tape is changed much more often than they are cleaned, the developers did not take it into account
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                      6. 0
                        26 June 2014 16: 00
                        the first time the picture did not load. Examples are full of FN MAG / M240, FN Minimi SPW, as well as German NK 121/221
                      7. Victor-cort
                        0
                        26 June 2014 16: 31
                        Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                        Ah yes it's a machine gun, not an automatic machine !!!

                        themselves and answered .. machine gun high accuracy is unnecessary.
                      8. 0
                        26 June 2014 16: 58
                        Then why did the Yusovtsi optics put on him, or so, out of kindness of soul. Or do you think that shooting from a machine gun with bursts of light with the help of optics, accuracy will be like a sniper rifle? There is no doubt single or short, 2-3 rounds each, and they shoot short with a machine gun, do not confuse targeted fire and suppression fire, for which optics are not needed for the machine gun.
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      3. 0
        25 June 2014 12: 06
        the advantage is that in winter the tongue will not freeze
        1. +2
          25 June 2014 12: 11
          Tell the Finns or Swedes about it, otherwise they’ll probably constantly have languages ​​for machine guns laughing
  8. Victor-cort
    +1
    25 June 2014 11: 41
    Quote: DesToeR
    In the VHS rifle, it is surprising that there are a lot of bends and "snares" in the area of ​​the store and in particular. In the field, all these parts will collect debris and dirt - it will be a pleasure to clean it after the battle.

    So what? Spit plastic, it does not rust. And if you have to clean it ... then you can just rinse it with water :)
    1. +3
      25 June 2014 11: 57
      A steel machine can not be washed with water ???
      1. +1
        25 June 2014 12: 37
        Water is chemically active! I remember a year ago, UAZ washed it with water, the next day one frame remained!
        1. Victor-cort
          0
          25 June 2014 14: 13
          Quote: the47th
          Water is chemically active! I remember a year ago, UAZ washed it with water, the next day one frame remained!

          I don’t know how your UAZ decayed, and my AK74 was covered with rye a day after moisture got on it, so it’s better to dry it immediately and with a little oil ... or if you sneeze then I laugh
      2. Victor-cort
        +3
        25 June 2014 14: 08
        you can wash it ... but not in vain AK, if it gets into the fog (not to mention any rain), it is wiped dry (naturally, metal parts) dry and lubricated as soon as possible, whoever serves surely remembers.
        1. +4
          25 June 2014 16: 34
          And what about plastic toys, unless water will affect metal parts (bolt group, barrel, trigger parts), or are these devices completely tight ??? It doesn’t matter what the weapon is made of, be it polymer, or metal, the main thing for the weapon , this is quality care, and it will serve for a very long time faithfully
          1. 0
            26 June 2014 12: 16
            Here's what American experts say about water:

            S 18: 46
  9. SIT
    +2
    25 June 2014 15: 30
    The first one to finally make a thread, another type of store for a buy-up will go down in history and receive a lot of thanks from users of his weapons. It’s inconveniently creeping to crawl when this horn sticks out from behind, and it’s just that it always clings to the thread at the most inopportune moment, and since it is out of sight when you look forward, nothing can be prevented. Which thread a screw store does not protrude beyond the size of the butt would give the weapon a more harmonious ergonomic look and would save a lot of problems of all crawling and climbing.
    1. +1
      25 June 2014 15: 50
      Quote: SIT
      The first one to finally make which thread another type of boutique store will go down in history.

      There are attempts, but the result still does not suit the users.
      Here are a few of them:







      1. 0
        25 June 2014 16: 01
        Cool, anyway.
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      3. SIT
        +1
        25 June 2014 16: 16
        Quote: Mister X
        There are attempts, but the result still does not suit users. Here are a few of them:

        Mdyayaya ... Especially the latest version of AKM with a disk from the PKK is impressive. After such a thing you will not say - I'm sorry, I got excited, let the horn stick out better as it was. I understand that a screw store for long cartridges, where the friction surface against the walls is large, is an eternal reliability problem due to the feeder spring, but we fly into space, but we can’t think of anything here! Let there be some thread over the slippery plastic inside, or something else. The auger is simply inserted into the magazine slot on one side and the shoulder rest of the butt on the other. As a result, nothing sticks out, the magazine's capacity is higher and the balance of the weapon does not suffer.
        1. +1
          25 June 2014 16: 58
          Quote: SIT
          As a result, nothing sticks out, the capacity of the store is higher and the balance of the weapon does not suffer.




          weapons from Calico Light Weapon Systems
          screw shops on 50 or 100 cartridges are used.

          Article Karasik Cyril
          http://topwar.ru/25638-pistolety-pulemety-calico.html
          1. SIT
            +1
            25 June 2014 17: 17
            Quote: Mister X
            Article Karasik Cyril

            Yes, I remember this article, but there it is about PP with a pistol cartridge. The auger for intermediate cartridges did not come across to me. In this model in the photo you will agree that if you move the auger down between the fire control handle and the shoulder rest, as I suggested above, it will be much more ergonomic and just do more natural, and the most important aiming will be much more convenient.
            1. +1
              25 June 2014 19: 58
              Quote: SIT
              if you move the auger down between the fire control knob and the shoulder rest, as I suggested above, it will be much more ergonomic and more general

              Quite recently, Kirill's article "Projects of submachine guns with longitudinal magazine placement" was published, but again this is PP and pistol cartridges ...

              http://topwar.ru/50522-proekty-pistoletov-pulemetov-s-prodolnym-razmescheniem-ma

              gazina.html

              I am afraid that this is due to the great technical difficulties, so in the near future it will be necessary to use horns.

              A friend asked me to think about the option of tights for socks in the summer - all the women in the world are grit to me will be grateful.
              Rummaged and found: it turns out already thought and have already tried to produce.
              Lycra contained mint vials of liquid.
              They gradually burst and created a feeling of coolness.
              It probably did not go.
              Looks like bubbles burst too fast and lacked a whole day ...
              So that women, too, while waiting for a new round of progress, and therefore in the near future they will have to use regular tights wink
            2. 0
              25 June 2014 21: 32
              of the
              I'm sorry, the picture of ak with a screw store has already left
          2. Victor-cort
            +1
            25 June 2014 17: 44
            Quote: Mister X
            screw shops

            The screws on our bison (PP) were thrust ... and then quickly forgotten .... the screws are very demanding on the quality of production and care. Repair only at the factory.
            1. +4
              25 June 2014 20: 18
              Quote: Victor-Cort
              Quote: Mister X
              screw shops

              The screws on our bison (PP) were thrust ... and then quickly forgotten .... the screws are very demanding on the quality of production and care. Repair only at the factory.

              Worm shops were spotted on AKM North Korean clones belonging to Kim Jong-un's guard.
              1. +1
                25 June 2014 23: 33
                Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                Worm shops were spotted on AKM North Korean clones belonging to Kim Jong-un's guard.

                There you are, grandmother, and Rabindranath Tagore!
                Thanks for the photo!
          3. 0
            26 June 2014 01: 10
            Caliber 22nd.
    2. +1
      26 June 2014 17: 24
      We were taught to crawl while holding a weapon with the store sideways parallel to the ground.
      Then it doesn’t matter - bullpup or not, the store does not interfere.
      The total length of the weapon interferes. M-16 (long) clung to the barrel
      for all sorts of branches, thorns. A carbine is much better.
      I didn’t use Tavor bullpup, but it’s very short, like Uzi -
      I don’t think when he crawls, he makes problems.
  10. +1
    25 June 2014 18: 19
    Held in his hands, with a drum and a horn. my comments:
    Inconvenient for shooting from different hands. The drum rests on the elbow, changing horns is very uncomfortable and unusual, leading to the need to change the look from the position of the target under the armpit. Although it may after a month of use and perhaps refueling by touch, it is unlikely in conditions of battle and nervous tension. This property does not allow you to connect the horns in two. You can associate, but with the insert you are tormented
  11. +4
    25 June 2014 22: 00
    friends! how nice to read your debate about weapons and only about him as in the good old days before euromaidan ... I rest my soul))) Thank you
  12. +1
    25 June 2014 23: 26
    Long, long ago in the distant past, in a country called the "Soviet Union", TKB 022 was invented in which all problems had already been solved) oh, how I want it ...)
    Carry handle - why? In battle, a weapon is always on the shoulder, or on the side hangs at hand, in the rear on the belt - when to wear it by the handle ??)))
    "Bullpup" how to quickly change the magazine without losing the aiming line? Remove the magazine from the unloading (namely shop for the "horns" I once caught the butt with my face) laughing and trying to get into the neck pressed by pouches is difficult. You can certainly not aim the line of aiming, hiding behind some sort of shelter, but this is a personal matter ...
    One "inconvenient" window shade for ejection on both sides, an extra dirt collection. Maybe it is removed and an inconspicuous "cap" is put in its place)
    1. Victor-cort
      0
      25 June 2014 23: 33
      Quote: Marssik
      TKB 022

      beautiful device .... BUT, alas, his aiming is crappy. We needed optics there and only .... and optics and communications have always been a sore spot.
  13. 0
    26 June 2014 05: 27
    Redesigned design at a glance. You can shoot fantastic action movies with her, yes. And the bullpup scheme is generally a controversial thing. Extraction of the sleeve in the right, i.e. in the area of ​​the face when shooting from the left shoulder. Changing the store is not as convenient and fast as on the classic scheme.
    Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that specialists prefer the classic layout. For all sorts of shamanistic movements associated with a quick change of the store, looking into the shutter during a misfire, etc. On bullpup, it's getting harder and longer.