Donbass Stalingrad for Kiev: a fundamental turning point in the civil war in Ukraine

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In the civil war in Ukraine there was a radical change. The fact that this is a fracture and how it threatens Kiev and Novorossia will be discussed below.

Donbass strayed and matured

First, the forces of the militia of Novorossia were not only not crushed by the Ukrainian army and punitive detachments, but also strengthened, even if they suffered losses. In particular:

1. In the militia appeared MANPADS in sufficient quantities to close the airspace of Donbass;

2. Aviation of the Kiev authorities flies blindly over the Donbass, because militias destroyed or took control of radar stations in the controlled territory;

3. Kiev Aviation Group (Army Aviation and Air Force) suffered significant losses and is forced to use everything that can fly, including helicopters with UN symbols;

4. The militia appeared heavy weapons, in particular Tanks T-64, MLRS Grad and barreled artillery in quantities sufficient not only to deter, but also for a gradual transition to the offensive;

5. After massive shelling and destruction of infrastructure, the influx of volunteers increased dramatically and the formation of new militia groups, including from miners who left the faces of the stopped Akhmetov mines, accelerated;

6. Strengthening unity of command in the leadership of the militia. At the same time, in parts of Kiev and Kaganat there were signs of disorder and vacillation;

7. The border is still under the control of the militia.

Kiev is exhausted

Secondly, the Kiev punitive machine began to run out of steam, using almost all of its reserves, which caused discontent among residents of regions loyal to Kiev:

1. Kiev units suffer huge losses that they have to hide from the public;

2. The facts of blocking of transport communications and disruption by parents of conscripts to send them to the front were revealed;

3. Kiev authorities are not able to plan operations not only at a strategic, but even at a tactical level;

4. In the V / H controlled by Kiev repair almost everything that is possible. This indicates the exhaustion of stocks of workable machinery and equipment;

5. The facts of manipulation with the purchase of equipment, such as the supply of body armor with insufficient protection class, have become known;

6. In Kiev, in early June, rallies were held with the requirement to provide the soldiers with the necessary equipment and only then send them to the eastern front;

7. On the territory controlled by Kiev, dormant resistance cells became more active: there are facts of propaganda of campaign materials for Novorossia in the Kherson, Kharkov and Odessa regions;

8. The eastern border is no longer controlled by Ukraine. The moral spirit of the border parts of Kiev has fallen to such a state that they leave the frontier guards and, at best, retreat deep into the territory of Ukraine, and in the worst (for Kiev) case they cross the Russian border, hiding there. It is noteworthy that the Russian Federation does not pursue Ukrainian border guards who fled from Ukraine.

Insignificance of the Ukrainian elite

The incompetence of the Kiev authorities, its absolute lack of negotiability and insignificance as managers were revealed:

1. The standard of living in Ukraine has plummeted: instead of “Europe”, there has been a tremendous increase in utility payments, payments and prices for goods;

2. Accelerating economic collapse: the closure of production, decline in economic activity, rising unemployment;

3. The breakdown of gas negotiations indicates that Kiev has no money. No in the sense of "none at all";

4. In the energy sector, a state of emergency has been introduced, caused not only by the cessation of gas pumping into storage facilities, but also by future interruptions in the supply of coal;

5. Filling the budget is broken, Kiev lending is frozen, which forced the acting. authorities ask creditors for debt restructuring.

Devour each other: the intensification of interspecific struggle

The struggle between the Euromaidan faction, Kaganat them. "Beni" Kolomoisky and Tymoshenko's group:

1. The elites of Ukraine have chosen the line of simultaneous warfare all with all on several fronts and regular steps to each other;

2. President of Euromaidan Petro Poroshenko goes to an open war with the head of Kaganat Igor Kolomoisky, as evidenced by the open disobedience of Kolomoisky Poroshenko’s decision on a temporary truce in the Donbas and the leak of Poroshenko’s intention to remove Kolomoisky and his protege from power;

3. In Odessa, the mayor’s election was won by Gennady Trukhanov, who swore an oath to Kolomoisky, Poroshenko’s appointee, Eduard Gurvits, failed miserably;

4. The territorial defense battalions, financed by Kolomoisky, operate in isolation from parts of Kiev and do not obey them, making raids (the Azov battalion of A. Biletsky under the O. Lyashko brand and the Aydar battalion defeated by the militias);

5. Poroshenko is forced to fight in Kiev with the people of Tymoshenko, squeezing them out of power and pushing the idea of ​​early parliamentary elections.

Europe is thinking

The four-time postponement of the transfer of Kiev to prepaid gas led to a fundamental change in the EU policy towards Russia and energy supplies:

1. Europe, in fact, recognized the gas price offered by Moscow as fair for Kiev;

2. The initiator of the transfer of prepayment and the continuation of the negotiations was European Commissioner Oettinger, which demonstrates the awareness of the EU elites of the depth of the energy problem;

3. Gazprom refused to use Ukrainian underground gas storage facilities, preferring to pump gas directly into the UGS facilities of the European Union;

4. Nord Stream is temporarily stopped for routine maintenance for the period from 24 to 28 in June, and from 28 in June to 4 in July, only one branch of the pipeline will function;

5. The EU will ripen to the required condition for a month or two, after which it will agree to almost any demands of Gazprom regarding South Stream and gas supplies;

6. The EU elites do not believe in the realistic supply of shale gas from the United States (and rightly so);

Thus, the thinking of European politicians is restructured, and its carriers are forced to look at Ukrainian events not from the standpoint of ideology, but from the standpoint of economics and healthy pragmatism, which brings the positions of the EU and the Russian Federation closer. The United States in such conditions appear in the role of the "third superfluous".

Development Trends of the Ukrainian Civil War

Based on the above, you can point to a number of trends and predict the further development of events in Ukraine, provided that the troops of the Russian Federation will not be further introduced to the Donbass and Ukraine. The introduction of troops will bring down this scheme and thwart all the progress in the EU turn towards Russia, pushing the Europeans to sanctions and concluding an agreement on a transatlantic free trade zone with the United States, which will lead to a sharp strengthening of the US geopolitical positions and a rapid weakening of Russia's positions.

So:

1. Further aggravation of the conflict and the increase in the number of provocations (disruption of the truce), the purpose of which is to get Russia to send troops into the New Russia;

2. The default in Ukraine, the sharp impoverishment of the population, the reduction of GDP by 40-50% from the level of 2013 of the year, the sharp increase in social discontent and riots, the disruption of the holiday season in the Black Sea cities of Ukraine;

3. Quantitative and qualitative strengthening of the resistance forces of Novorossia and their transition from sabotage tactics to the expansion of the region of presence;

4. Thaw in relations between the EU and the Russian Federation, reducing the factor of US influence on the EU foreign policy;

5. The actual fragmentation of the remnants of Ukraine into several quasi-state formations and increased hostility between their elites. The United States is likely to bet on Kolomensky’s Kaganat in the confrontation with Novorossia.
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  1. portoc65
    +66
    24 June 2014 14: 36
    GIVE GOD GIVE GOD .. The main thing now is to keep the borders and cut off the punishers from the supply .. because they started negotiations, they are already talking about something .. They actually do not control the situation
    1. +118
      24 June 2014 14: 40
      Thanks to the author for a competent, unemotional analytical alignment.
      (Qualitatively different from the mass of articles appearing on the site lately in the spirit of "everything is gone").
      1. Matroskin 18
        +25
        24 June 2014 14: 47
        If planes crashed on Wall Street in September 11, history would have developed in a completely different way ... Now we would be discussing a referendum in Texas, the Russian naval base in Hawaii ...
        1. +4
          24 June 2014 15: 12
          Quote: Matroskin 18
          If planes crashed on Wall Street in September 11, history would have developed in a completely different way ... Now we would be discussing a referendum in Texas, the Russian naval base in Hawaii ...

          Fresh tradition, but hard to believe!
        2. +38
          24 June 2014 15: 35
          Quote: Matroskin 18
          If planes crashed on Wall Street in September 11, history would have developed in a completely different way ... Now we would be discussing a referendum in Texas, the Russian naval base in Hawaii ...



          September 11, the planes fell to where it was planned

          As a result - GWOT (Global War on Terror), massive wiretapping around the world, as a result - taking control of European officials and European politicians, huge profits for US companies from wars and reconstruction in countries to which "democracy" was exported

          Global planning in action ...

          Surely, a lot of nasty things are planned
          1. +30
            24 June 2014 15: 57
            Gentlemen, if my memory serves me, that year 1968-1969 in the magazine "Around the world" was published a novel, in my opinion, "Plan-R". It described a situation when a "Martian attack on Boston" was organized to eliminate the crisis in the United States. Very similar to 11/XNUMX. With casualties among the population, the introduction of martial law, etc. And the subsequent elimination of the authors and performers of the action. They tried to do something similar with Ukraine (bring in Russian troops). But in the fall in the United States, a severe financial crisis is possible.
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            2. +31
              24 June 2014 16: 32
              Quote: Sanglier
              But in the fall in the United States a severe financial crisis is possible.


              Why is it possible. It will still be, since Russia did not fall into the war-trap.
            3. +2
              25 June 2014 05: 44
              It is time for Russia to start conducting financial sabotage, although China has more opportunities in this area for international politics than ours.
            4. +4
              25 June 2014 21: 32
              No need to stop the enemy from making mistakes.
        3. WKS
          +6
          24 June 2014 15: 57
          Quote: Matroskin 18
          If planes crashed on Wall Street in September 11, history would have developed in a completely different way ... Now we would be discussing a referendum in Texas, the Russian naval base in Hawaii ...

          As well as the construction of a launch complex for the "proton" in Florida, the laying of a gas pipeline by GAZPROM to Mexico through the territory of the United States, Russia's lease of berths for missile carriers in Portland, a ceasefire in the war between California and Texas, the mass exodus of Jews from the United States to Israel and Russia, etc. .d.
          1. +3
            25 June 2014 07: 24
            And let Alaska and California be returned! :)
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        5. Stalker
          +3
          24 June 2014 16: 58
          If planes crashed on Wall Street in September 11, history would have developed in a completely different way ... Now we would be discussing a referendum in Texas, the Russian naval base in Hawaii ...
        6. +3
          24 June 2014 18: 27
          If planes crashed on Wall Street in September 11th

          Why will they drop planes on themselves?
        7. +3
          24 June 2014 19: 38
          Quote: Matroskin 18
          If planes crashed on Wall Street in September 11, history would have developed in a completely different way ... Now we would be discussing a referendum in Texas, the Russian naval base in Hawaii ...


          Airplanes crashed where they were supposed to crash. Minimum damage - maximum hype.
        8. +1
          24 June 2014 21: 33
          They did not fall. They were dropped. Then and where it was necessary. In your understanding, it sounds: then and where exactly Wall Street was just what
        9. Erg
          0
          24 June 2014 22: 21
          Wall Street couldn’t direct planes on itself wassat
        10. 0
          25 June 2014 12: 05
          Yes, not so far from Wall Street they fell ...
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      3. +17
        24 June 2014 14: 48
        No matter how puffed up the Kiev junta, Ukraine will no longer be the same, the junta sold it, tore it, destroyed it
      4. Alexan
        -25
        24 June 2014 15: 05
        Meanwhile, VVP refused to allow the entry of troops abroad to protect fellow tribesmen. I understand that they will present it as a new "trick", but this was Kiev's demand, voiced a week ago. Do we bend under the Ukrainians? Not "everything is lost" yet, but they are doing more for this every day!
        1. +22
          24 June 2014 15: 11
          Quote: Alexan
          Not "everything is lost" yet, but they are doing more for this every day!

          Yes, nothing was lost. Crimea was taken without a shot, and here a large chunk falls off from Ukraine without any troops being sent.
          1. Alexan
            +2
            24 June 2014 15: 57
            With this approach, nothing will fall off! No piece. I look, so many naive and myopic on the forum! I bet on your shoulder straps that in the end there will be only autonomy within Ukraine, and not Novorossia. All fail!
            1. +3
              24 June 2014 18: 43
              Quote: Alexan
              I bet on your shoulder straps that in the end there will be only autonomy within Ukraine, and not Novorossia


              I absolutely agree with the leading speaker!)
              And now the question: Is it a drain or a victory ???
              My opinion is draining! By its actions, Russia has made it clear that there will no longer be any help, and whose military assistance they have been waiting for there so far and will still not be 100%! All that remains for them is federalization, and then I doubt that they will be allowed to. Resistance loses its meaning without help, and now it remains to go home and wait until they come for them! And they will come for them, because these evil creatures will make it easy for disobedience !!
              1. +7
                24 June 2014 19: 25
                With this action, the GDP has a deep TRUST in the armed forces of New Russia !!! (the thought is not mine)
              2. +9
                24 June 2014 19: 42
                But if Novorossia survived without active and visible help, the question arises - what kind of education is it called "Ukraine" and who needs this trough?
                1. +3
                  25 June 2014 03: 26
                  Quote: Sergey Vl.
                  But if Novorossia survived without active and visible help, the question arises - what kind of education is it called "Ukraine" and who needs this trough?

                  I answer the question posed.
                  This, as you said "feeding trough" (and it is), is necessary for Kiev, because Yaytsenyukh blurted out at the BP meeting that the products of the South-East of Ukraine are sold abroad and give a very substantial income of foreign currency to the budget. Here, somewhere like that. hi
              3. Erg
                +3
                24 June 2014 22: 34
                Oh oh You bought into a simple political maneuver. No need to run for valerian. Analyze the situation and draw conclusions good
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            3. stapler
              +1
              24 June 2014 19: 15
              just about that, and then there are a ton of global otmazchiks, you think that the state’s interests will not be disregarded?! ... as well, they will provide, as a complete victory for Russian diplomacy, Andreeva from the table will jump out of happiness.
            4. +7
              24 June 2014 20: 43
              The future will tell, but for now, why guess?
              In autumn we will see what Ukraine will be like, whether it will survive.
              Do not forget that between Europe and Russia you need at least a neutral, better friendly state, and not the accession of the southeast to Russia.
            5. +1
              24 June 2014 20: 43
              The future will tell, but for now, why guess?
              In autumn we will see what Ukraine will be like, whether it will survive.
              Do not forget that between Europe and Russia you need at least a neutral, better friendly state, and not the accession of the southeast to Russia.
            6. +1
              25 June 2014 16: 46
              You probably missed the moment with the declaration of independence of the LPR and the DPR, what kind of federalization can we talk about? Maybe they heard about South Sudan?
            7. 0
              25 June 2014 22: 29
              Autonomy will be called New Russia.
            8. +1
              25 June 2014 22: 37
              In the fall, a new revolution will be - social.
            9. -1
              25 June 2014 23: 05
              COMPLEX EVERYTHING AND UNCERTAINLY!
              LET'S NOT RUN FORWARD OF THE STEAM ... ALSO, READY TO AGREE TO THOSE WHO SAY THAT ALL IS LOOKING AS THE DRAIN ...
        2. +16
          24 June 2014 15: 33
          If you do not know what you are talking about, then it is better to be silent. What a "sagging" in the fig, all that needs to be done is done, and Putin's decree refusing to allow the entry of troops is a signal to Amers and Co. that we will not dance to their tune and will do our own way .... but not as a deflection under the Khuntyat.
          1. Alexan
            +7
            24 June 2014 15: 59
            I quote "The DPR and LPR expressed regret over the possible revocation of the right to use the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine

            "This is bad. I absolutely did not understand this decision, "Deputy Defense Minister of the Donetsk People's Republic Fyodor Berezin told RIA Novosti, adding that the DPR leadership would like Russia to provide military assistance to the republic. Berezin does not believe that the decision of the Federation Council to revoke the permission to use the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine will facilitate the start of negotiations between representatives of the southeast and Kiev. "What's the signal to you! We are already dancing to their tune! That everyone around is dull?"
            1. +4
              24 June 2014 22: 33
              I quote "The DPR and LPR expressed regret over the possible revocation of the right to use the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine

              Dear Alexan! If we consider the issue solely from a legal point of view (and the permission to use the troops of the Russian Federation on the territory of another state lies precisely in the legal plane because Article 102 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation), then it makes sense to talk about the possibility of using troops on the territory of the LPR and the DPR (unless it is Ukraine?). And this, apparently, is a completely different song. And another permission, gentlemen. wink When the President of the Russian Federation turned to the Federation Council on 1 on March of this year Crimea was the territory of Ukraine, therefore there is no sense in this permission today (based on its text). In Ukraine, over the 3,5 of the month, everyone who only could from this permission was overdone. Naturally, these are only legal aspects and purely my opinion ...
            2. +1
              25 June 2014 08: 47
              There will be no entry to Ukraine. And about the DNI and LC - no question.
          2. +10
            24 June 2014 16: 40
            Because dill in this global Game "is not danced at all"! Nobody takes her opinion into account anymore - the game is Big, and the dill in it is only "extra"! And this is no "deflection", be patient, please! (when in an ambush in a mosquito swamp for a day, if not more - you will learn to endure!)
          3. +3
            24 June 2014 20: 50
            YES! I think this is a correct remark, at our utmost desire we will not introduce anyone and nowhere, let them understand Iraq now, and Russia, if there is a need, will smear anyone and will not show anyone. That's it.
        3. +1
          24 June 2014 15: 48
          And from, or what? After all, they put everything on the shelves, and you again got money for the fish!
        4. +10
          24 June 2014 16: 10
          No panic! The economy works, money requires silence. We don’t need someone else’s blood and we won’t give our money back. After June 27 it will be even tougher, the abolition of duty-free transportation of goods at the Russian-Ukrainian border. A certain time will pass, the question of the price of nuclear fuel for nuclear power plants will arise. Ukropekia. We will watch and wait. wink
          1. +4
            25 June 2014 08: 53
            Ukrainian nuclear power plants are already on the verge of shutting down - American carriers do not fit, they almost exploded at all. Therefore, the energy collapse of Ukraine is inevitable. But this is the economy. Country basis. And we must not forget about the psychology of "ukrov" - we Russians are to blame for everything. And terrorism will flourish. Therefore - we will be vigilant!
        5. +16
          24 June 2014 16: 51
          Quote: Alexan
          Meanwhile, the GDP refused to permit the entry of troops abroad to protect fellow tribesmen.


          Young man! How much can you drive the blizzard and pour water on the mill of our sworn friends? If you can’t understand anything, don’t interfere and do not provoke people. There will be no official input. Yes, it was not planned. Help was provided, it is and will be provided! It should not be to the detriment of Russia. This is the command of the time.
        6. +20
          24 June 2014 17: 04
          Question: How long has Putin's previous request for troop deployment been satisfied?
          I think, if necessary, make a "re-peat" today already in one day

          Well, a normal move, the argument was beaten out from Kiev that the pro-Russian aggressors want to shred a piece of Ukraine. Under which military propaganda is now deployed, they say we’ll protect, we won’t give it back. And now how to argue Kiev?
          Now you can’t get out of negotiations. It requires an adequate response to this statement. And the West will no longer be able to argue the strengthening of the ATO.
          1. +12
            24 June 2014 17: 34
            Quote: Deff
            Question: How long has Putin's previous request for troop deployment been satisfied?
            I think, if necessary, make a "re-peat" today already in one day

            Well, a normal move, the argument was beaten out from Kiev that the pro-Russian aggressors want to shred a piece of Ukraine. Under which military propaganda is now deployed, they say we’ll protect, we won’t give it back. And now how to argue Kiev?
            Now you can’t get out of negotiations. It requires an adequate response to this statement. And the West will no longer be able to argue the strengthening of the ATO.


            In addition, the decision to ban troop entry:

            and. sobering up Ukrainians who are waiting for Russian aggression
            b. will show the absurdity of military preparations and preparations for war
            at. NATO will consider whether ukraine needs military assistance
            Mr. will slow down the mobilization, as it will knock out the main reason why people
            drafted into the army
        7. stapler
          +2
          24 June 2014 19: 12
          put a plus, everything is wonderful in the article, but 5 tanks and 15 armored personnel carriers are unlikely to change the situation to a radical change.
        8. +5
          24 June 2014 19: 58
          What are you all about this permission. In 2008, it took a little more than a day to enter the armed forces into Georgia, and the hours for allowing aircraft to enter the Crimea GDP were granted. So if necessary, he will be given a new one.
        9. Erg
          +2
          24 June 2014 22: 27
          Yes bandera vaasche sideways. There is a larger game. And let these jump soldier
        10. +6
          25 June 2014 01: 40
          The refusal of the GDP to allow troops to enter Ukraine to protect fellow tribesmen only indicates that the President of the Russian Federation does not consider the newly created DPR and LPR to be Ukrainian territory.
        11. +5
          25 June 2014 03: 22
          Quote: Alexan
          Meanwhile, VVP refused to allow the entry of troops abroad to protect fellow tribesmen. I understand that they will present it as a new "trick", but this was Kiev's demand, voiced a week ago. Do we bend under the Ukrainians? Not "everything is lost" yet, but they are doing more for this every day!


          Alexander, pliz, read a MORE CAREFULLY AND CAREFULLY article. GDP is all done absolutely right. But the p.i.nd.s.o.s.t.a.s.u, it seems, the cranes are approaching. That is, the United States is visiting a furry animal that is sneaking up unnoticed. His name is a scribe (full). This is STRATEGY (not tactics). hi
      5. +1
        24 June 2014 15: 37
        I think that the author is too optimistic. If no one gives money to save Ukraine, then there is money to continue the war. And this speaks of some other goals of the enemy, namely the creation of a long-term hotbed of destabilization, designed for many years.
      6. Evil Pole
        +13
        24 June 2014 15: 53
        I told you brethren, Won't pass and half the year! The war between Poroshenko WS Kolomoisky and here Julia on a white horse !! And you creatures in Karachun pray to your gods (if you have them) BREAK AND OUTCOME + NEW Nurenberg! I BELIEVE.
      7. VAF
        VAF
        +1
        24 June 2014 16: 01
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        for a competent, unemotional analytical alignment.


        I will definitely remind you this is yours. fellow -comment number so 28-29th. It will be interesting that you then .. tell wink
      8. +5
        24 June 2014 16: 18
        Damn, and which rose gardens I remember in my childhood in Slavyansk, they dug bushes even to our streets in Donetsk to decorate the city.
        1. +1
          25 June 2014 08: 30
          Looks like Slavyansk was a garden city ?!
      9. 0
        24 June 2014 16: 33
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        Thanks to the author for a competent, unemotional analytical alignment.
        (Qualitatively different from the mass of articles appearing on the site lately in the spirit of "everything is gone").


        Unfortunately, these are all assumptions. Only a few confirmed facts. If all as the person had stated, it would be possible to declare today the day of victory over ukrofashism.
      10. +1
        24 June 2014 17: 33
        Everything is written very competently and balanced. Now the main thing is to "remove" Kolomoisky - this is Poroshenko's main competitor, a man striving for a war with South-East, and then with Russia for the Crimea. I will take the liberty of suggesting that if Poroshenko signs a "peace" with Novorossiya - he is not a tenant, and Benya will "emerge" here.
      11. +2
        24 June 2014 17: 59
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        Thanks to the author for a competent, unemotional analytical alignment.
        (Qualitatively different from the mass of articles appearing on the site lately in the spirit of "everything is gone").

        +1

        Finally, the person summed up the real results and put together all the variables and factors.
        There is nothing to add. The author is a fatty plus.
      12. PRN
        +11
        24 June 2014 18: 07
        Strelkov: "A drone was delivered to us" 24.06.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX

        Thanks to those who help Novorosiya!
        Glory to the valiant warriors of New Russia!
      13. +3
        24 June 2014 18: 07
        all the trolls write is lost mostly. they are paid for by the Americans or provocateurs. Their goal is to escalate the situation against GDP.
      14. +5
        24 June 2014 18: 20
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        emotionless analytical alignment.

        In general, the author has essentially nothing to object to.
        May God grant organizational, economic and military-technical strengthening to the People’s Republics of the Southeast.
        And there you look, and in the rest of Ukraine the brains will be aired.
        The arrogant banderlogs in the geyropu clean the toilets, and the rest are happy to work according to the precepts of Pereyaslavskaya. And the thing will go! Yes
      15. 0
        24 June 2014 18: 23
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        (Qualitatively different from the mass of articles appearing on the site lately in the spirit of "everything is gone").

        That's all right. You're right. But, you see, the points of view and the sides of the view on the issue can be different. You may not like these sides and points, what do I understand ... But at the same time, people like you blindly believe in some ephemeral "plan" and absolutely do not want to hear or see opponents of the TS. , different from your point of view (I'm talking about your dissatisfaction "everything is gone"). I am sincerely interested in what you (many) will say when everything WILL HAPPEN according to the worst scenario for us ??? Although, I'm sure you will think of something ...
      16. nikbor
        +2
        24 June 2014 18: 56
        Nice to read a robust analysis !! I support!
      17. strong man
        +5
        24 June 2014 23: 55
        Let us hope that the Nazis will pass through Kiev, not only with a parade of winners, but with an convoy of defeated war criminals as in the distant 44th year !!
        1. +3
          25 June 2014 03: 27
          the Nazis will pass through Kiev, not only with a parade of winners, but with an convoy of defeated war criminals as in the distant 44 year !!

          I wish I could see this parade in 2014! And the most active "horses" of the Maidans, and those who frolicked at the Russian Embassy with Deshchitsa, I want to see in this shameful formation on Khreshchatyk.
        2. +2
          25 June 2014 08: 31
          Great photo!
      18. +1
        25 June 2014 09: 38
        emotions are present in some evaluations - they are shifted to the most positive degree.
      19. 0
        26 June 2014 23: 19
        Novorossia will have to pay too high a price for its statehood, too high.
        And why did the author forget to mention this ????
    2. +10
      24 June 2014 14: 42
      You don’t have to go far, remember what you did with the punishers and their leaders in 1944 during the liberation of Ukraine
      1. +18
        24 June 2014 14: 55
        Putin today asked the Federation Council to revoke the permission for the use of troops in Ukraine ... I agree with the author .. And Parashenko also went to negotiations with representatives of the DPR, in fact recognizing them as real power ... As someone wrote here "Wait .. clenching your fists and gritting your teeth" I hope that everything will be so! B goes constantly ..
        1. -5
          24 June 2014 15: 05
          Quote: MIKHAN
          And Parashenko went on negotiations with representatives of the DPR, essentially recognizing them as real power ...

          And here is another analytics -
          ... in April 2014. In Hungary, PMC Academy was deployed to solve the tasks of American hawks in Ukraine by force.

          According to the private intelligence company Farwest LLC, the number of American mercenaries with knowledge of Ukrainian and Russian languages ​​in Hungary reaches 11 000 people.

          Since the federalization of Ukraine (section of the country's infrastructure) did not take place peacefully, by the end of June 2014, circumstances required American hawks to introduce the Hungarian PMC group into combat operations in Ukraine. The objects of capture are, first of all, nine underground gas storages. Of which: three are located in western Ukraine, two in the Kiev region and four in the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics. Without gas storages, there is nowhere to put gas in the pipe, but it is impossible to close the flow. The main thing here!

          Under the cover of the peace-loving rhetoric of the President of Ukraine on a ceasefire with 20.06.14, Russian-speaking PMC mercenaries began to advance to the south-east of Ukraine. The task of PMCs is not so much to bring down militia checkpoints, but to provoke “whine and hip-hop” in the Western and Russian media with blows to civilians. Self-defense units of the Donetsk and Lugansk republics (Novorossia) will certainly not be able to withstand the onslaught of the ten thousandth group of thugs. And then with the intensity of emotions and accusations of inaction in the face of a humanitarian catastrophe, the Kremlin will be forced to intervene in the events and introduce Russian peacekeepers to the east of Ukraine. The partition of Ukraine will take place.

          And along with the section, there will also be a change in the place of gas supply to Europe from the former border of the USSR to the border of New Russia with New Ukraine. And the price of gas will be determined in Kiev, and not in Moscow ...

          http://www.peremeny.ru/books/osminog/9534
          1. +8
            24 June 2014 16: 19
            Rus2012] "And here is another analytics -"
            Looked at the link. This your statistics, complete crap.
            11 thousand Russian-speaking mercenaries? How do you yourself? For me, the author of this moor has porridge in his head.))) Did he go on a visit to Moldovan migrant workers?))) And ... is this the private intelligence company told him?
            1. +5
              24 June 2014 17: 00
              Quote: Nagaibak
              And ... so it was a private intelligence company that told him?

              Probably forty (obviously American) on the tail brought. Probably from him ...
            2. +3
              24 June 2014 19: 36
              Quote: Nagaibak
              Looked at the link. This your statistics, complete crap.

              ... and you read Strelkov’s bulletins about the supply and saturation of Ukrainian troops, the minisomet is good.

              At night, active movements of the enemy infantry and reconnaissance groups were observed in the Kramatorsk area, this morning the enemy put up a number of new roadblocks west of the city with armored personnel carriers and Hammer armored cars ...
              To the west of Kramatorsk, the enemy put up new checkpoints reinforced by armored vehicles. Northeast of Kramatorsk in the area of ​​the village of Malinovka, the appearance of units of the "Right Sector" with the symbols of the SS-Galichina Division was noted.

              source - http://rusvesna.su/news/1403606260

              Incidentally, Devyatov with a punch, just will not sculpt. Yes, and many of his predictions come true ...
          2. +6
            24 June 2014 16: 37
            Some nonsense about gas prices. With what fright will the price be determined in Kiev? Spread me the logic of this statement, unless of course you understand this. Yes, even though grass does not grow throughout Ukraine, it will never be determined in Kiev.
            1. +3
              24 June 2014 17: 33
              Quote: Max Otto
              With what fright will the price be determined in Kiev?

              And with what fright will Europe and the United States tell us at what price to sell gas to Ukraine? What do they have to do with it? Do not like the price - do not buy. In fact, they recognized the lack of market self-regulation. And they themselves only yell about democracy and the free market - in fact there is neither one nor the other!
          3. +1
            24 June 2014 18: 30
            Quote: Rus2012
            American mercenaries with knowledge of Ukrainian and Russian languages ​​reaches 11 people.

            I’m wondering where they got so many ur.odov with knowledge of the Russian, and even more so the Ukrainian language? The usual misinformation! Designed for those who read the news without comparing the facts!
            1. 0
              24 June 2014 21: 40
              Quote: non-primary
              I’m wondering where they got so many ur.odov with knowledge of the Russian, and even more so the Ukrainian language? The usual misinformation!

              These are your guesses ...
              The fact that the army of PMCs is 11.000 infantry was also confirmed from other sources. And it's not at all a fact that they are all Americans. Most likely a team hodgepodge, including Ukrainians-Canadians and other Bandera from around the world. In addition - "wild geese" are also from all over the world, they know little Russian port slang. Also, among them may be all Ukrainians who have a passport and who have once left, for example, to summer camps on a "combat hopak" ...
          4. +2
            24 June 2014 18: 37
            don’t be so naive. tomorrow they’ll write a million, and so what? this is an information war. let’s write, and the army of the South-East will be strengthened. I think there’s no need to panic.
          5. +1
            24 June 2014 21: 24
            This news walks the sites for the second week.
            The question is: are our intelligence services so naive that they "screwed up" and the appropriate measures were not taken?
          6. 0
            24 June 2014 21: 24
            This news walks the sites for the second week.
            The question is: are our intelligence services so naive that they "screwed up" and the appropriate measures were not taken?
          7. +2
            25 June 2014 09: 52
            I confirm the information indicated above by the author of Rus2012. Unfortunately. Through the channels of international communist resistance, this info passed as urgent a few days ago. We are talking about creatures from PMCs. They are in military uniform dill and in Russian. Extremely cruel and experienced warriors. Judging by the terms, they have already spread out over Donetsk and Lugansk HP, and possibly the residents were waiting for them. The question is not only in the economy, in gas. Their tasks are sabotage, terror, ethnic cleansing, the elimination of leaders. Now about their quantity. I’m not sure that PMCs will be able to recruit and finance so much - 10.000. This is probably an overestimated figure. But for amers, this is possible in finance. These are the ones that can use bio- and chemical weapons. Therefore, do not swear at the chat, but spread the straw where necessary.
        2. +1
          24 June 2014 16: 38
          Dear Meehan!

          In your opinion, did Russia recognize the DPR as a real power?
          1. +6
            24 June 2014 16: 48
            Quote: nils
            Did Russia recognize the DPR as real power?

            Recognized - not recognized, but things are going on ...

            LNR took control of the treasury in the Luhansk region - NSDC
            Representatives of the LPR took control of the Treasury in the Luhansk region. This was announced during a briefing by a representative of the information and analytical center of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine (NSDC) Vladimir Chepovoy.

            "Terrorists deliberately thwart the President's plan for a peaceful settlement and the attempts of the Ukrainian authorities to restore infrastructure and social payments in Donetsk and Luhansk regions. For example, the militants seized the buildings of the State Treasury of Ukraine in the city of Rovenki, Luhansk region and the State Courier Service of Donetsk," Chepovoy said.

            At the same time, as noted by the speaker of the NSDC information center, in Severodonetsk of the Luhansk region, employees of the local police department refused to go over to the side of the militia.

            "At noon on June 23 in Severodonetsk, about 60 militants entered the premises of the police station, demanding that the officers of the department go over to the side of the terrorists. After the refusal, the unknown left the premises," Chepovoy said.

            Earlier, the official representative of the ATO from the scene, Vladislav Seleznev, said on his Facebook that militias in eastern Ukraine continue shelling the positions of the forces of the anti-terrorist operation (ATO), despite the truce.

            We will remind, on June 20, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko announced a unilateral ceasefire by anti-terrorist operation forces before 10: on June 00 27 in order to enable militants to disarm.
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-148412.html
        3. 0
          25 June 2014 13: 17
          according to Ukrainian laws, the government is obliged to negotiate with terrorists
          negotiations do not guarantee recognition.
    3. +10
      24 June 2014 14: 46
      I really want to believe in what is described in the article, but vague doubts torment me that this respite is needed to bring another portion of weapons and cannon fodder from the Ukrainian Army into the war zone.
      1. UFO
        +9
        24 June 2014 14: 53
        Quote: jayich
        a respite is needed to bring the next batch of weapons and cannon fodder from the Ukrainian Army into the war zone.

        And it will be, but the main thing for the militias: the mood for an attack on Kiev! Otherwise, there will be no end-edge to this ATO.
        1. soyuz-nik
          +10
          24 June 2014 15: 10
          Good health, I wish!
          First, I would take other adjacent territories under control (the remaining 6 regions of Novorossia), and first of all - in Dnepropetrovsk, to raid Kalomoysha and his accomplices ...... And there already - to Kiev ....
        2. +2
          24 June 2014 15: 23
          Quote: UFO
          the main thing for the militias: the mood for an attack on Kiev!
          Yes, at least build a solid defense.
      2. 0
        24 June 2014 15: 38
        Think only they are doing this, pumping is on the other hand ....
      3. +4
        24 June 2014 17: 18
        If today we are preparing to hinder all heavy equipment, interrupt the supply of ammunition, and block the sabotage of the train. ways, mining approaches to the same karachun, high-mining mining of access roads to defense points. Prepare positions for striking at takeoffs and accumulations of aircraft. I think you can make this offensive a complete defeat.
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    5. +11
      24 June 2014 14: 47
      And do not send our troops, hidden assistance to the people of SE will bring much more benefit
      1. +1
        24 June 2014 17: 13
        And will the open aid of New Russia apparently hurt Russia?

        Nobody especially advocates the introduction of troops. The question is about the attitude of the Kremlin to Novorossia and specifically to Strelkov’s militia, consisting mainly of Russian people.
        Are they FORPOST of Russia or HOSTAGES?
        No one has yet given an intelligible answer to this question.
        1. +1
          24 June 2014 17: 22
          Well, an alternative, not substituting, is the recognition of the DPR, LPR by China. China has a reason for such an anti-American demarche. The same Iraq, where a lot of Chinese interests.
          1. +3
            24 June 2014 18: 12
            China will never recognize any branches, otherwise it will be used against it in Tibet and Taiwan, which the Chinese consider their territory. Today, China does not recognize either Crimea, South Ossetia, Abkhazia or Novorossia, but it will not protest.
            1. 0
              24 June 2014 19: 08
              Crimea is a different song, and here Russia will explain: that it is not a question of secession, but a federalization, to stipulate in advance that with the initiatives of the DPR-LPR to secession, China may declare withdrawal of confession and breaking of agreements. Here, a fairly convenient game for both China and Russia is to trick the United States. (The same Tibet-Taiwan - autonomy with broad powers, and we are talking about almost the same status.)
    6. +5
      24 June 2014 14: 52
      Maintaining borders for New Russia is now one of the most important tasks. But Russia has the task of not supplying troops to provide the militia with everything necessary to fight the junta.
    7. +9
      24 June 2014 15: 00
      Hmm ... Time works AGAINST KIEV ... !!! That's the so-called truce ... Sheer deception !!! AND STILL SOON WINTER ...: The main ALLY of Russia ... !!!
      1. +1
        24 June 2014 15: 09
        For the ally of Russia +++++++++!
    8. 0
      24 June 2014 15: 03
      Comrades! Do you think in vain Putin asked to cancel the permission to use the Russian Armed Forces on the outskirts !? You have a good plan, comrade Putin ...
      1. 0
        24 June 2014 15: 13
        Quote: MaxikyM
        Do you think in vain Putin asked to cancel the permission to use the Russian Armed Forces on the outskirts !?

        As asked to cancel, and asks for permission to use. His hand is the lord.
        1. +20
          24 June 2014 15: 27
          Let's see who else who ..
        2. +4
          24 June 2014 15: 50
          and may not ask ...
          but the fact is how markets play on this wave. I'm certainly not an expert on all these currency and stock gadgets, but something is being said about it today on the news.
          sell more on this wave, then again ask the Federation Council for permission to send troops, buy everything cheaply, and so on ad infinitum laughing
          I'm certainly not an analyst, but vague guesses torment me that the “game”, no matter how cruel it may sound, is much wider than New Russia! Yes, and send troops, you must first clear the field from the civilian population .... you never know what.
    9. +4
      24 June 2014 16: 08
      good signs are good, only a rat squeezed into a corner becomes doubly dangerous, now we have to expect that all reserves will go into action, it is not in vain that a truce has been declared, it is used as to create an international image (whoever wants to see what is shown to him), and the creation of a decisive advantage in forces in certain areas and pulling up reserves, at the same time, the water pipeline is not allowed to be repaired, for the junta a humanitarian catastrophe is not grief, but happiness, another way to punish the disobedient. You can't count on humanism from mad dogs, maybe "the beginning of a radical change" will be more correct
    10. Rusin Dima
      0
      24 June 2014 16: 38
      Truly the perfect option outlined here.
      1. +4
        24 June 2014 19: 26
        That's right, that "the most ideal option." But there are no ideals.
        How can you predict now? It seems that everything is sliding into anarchy. Poroshenko, at least, such as Kolomoisky and Yarosh are not going to listen, there is also the Maidan with its hundreds. On the other hand, the East does not yet have power structures, a single command (in some localities there are militias, in others there is silence; in Mariupol, for example, there is silence, although Tsarev said that people were caught and taken away in unknown directions) .
        Then this banquet (war) must be financed. The treasury is empty. Loans will not be. Only oligarchs have money and the United States can throw in the furnace. This is one of the main factors. Beni will give the grandmothers the USA, and this war can drag on. God knows how much. hi
    11. 0
      24 June 2014 18: 49
      Fuckers at a truce with straights would not have just gone, but only after they got ... and not sexually. It was necessary to set one more condition in the requirements for negotiations - so that from fennel all fiddles in the EU would be sent off. Or did not cross the borders of Lviv.
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    13. -1
      25 June 2014 12: 24
      I watched it many times and only now understood the meaning of a warrior's life (a characteristic phrase of an Irishman on a horse):
    14. +1
      25 June 2014 23: 00
      A very realistic alignment and a very possible forecast.
      But!
      Man assumes, but God disposes !!!
  2. +23
    24 June 2014 14: 38
    Ukraine is surprised to learn that to defend the interests of overseas uncles is not so profitable. What is the price of freedom in the trenches in Slavyansk and with automatic rifle machines behind me?
    1. +5
      24 June 2014 16: 52
      Quote: Barboskin
      Ukraine is surprised to learn that to defend the interests of overseas uncles is not so profitable.


      DNR will discuss hostage exchange only with the participation of intermediaries

      The authorities of the Donetsk People’s Republic are ready to discuss hostage exchanges with Ukrainian security officials only with the participation of Russia, the OSCE and other international mediators, DPR First Deputy Prime Minister Andrei Purgin told RIA Novosti by telephone on Monday.

      Last Friday, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko ordered all those involved in special operations in the east to stop military operations. Prime Minister of the DPR Alexander Borodai on Monday at negotiations with representatives of Moscow, Kiev, the OSCE and the people's republics said that the Donetsk and Lugansk militias also pledged to cease fire until June 27. One of the main problems remains the fate of the hostages and prisoners of war on both sides.

      "Negotiations in a bilateral format with Kiev are impossible, only consultations with the OSCE and with Russia are possible. We call on the international community and mediators to take part in the beginning of consultations on the exchange of hostages. This is the most painful topic, the main reason why we are conducting at least some kind of dialogue. with people who kill about 30 people of my compatriots every day, "he said.

      According to Purgin, most of the hostages seized by the Ukrainian security forces are in the territory of the regional branches of the Security Council of Ukraine. "They raise documents on the referendum, they take women 50-60 years old who worked in election commissions - teachers, doctors, that is, the local intelligentsia. They are arrested and taken to the territory of Ukraine - to Zaporozhye, to Poltava, Dnepropetrovsk," - said the representative of the Donetsk authorities, adding that in this way at least 300-400 people were detained.

      "Consultations on the exchange of hostages are still taking place, exchanges are taking place - all through intermediaries. However, only the National Guard and similar units change" theirs ". If we capture a soldier of the Ukrainian army, it is unlikely that we will change him for someone: Ukraine is not interested, she does not deal with them, so the Ukrainian military are fighting as they want. There have been exchanges for "Maidan sotniks" and so on, but these exchanges are few, "Purgin said.

      "We are also ready to release prisoners, but we do not have such a large number, we do not conduct police operations, we take prisoners of war. And there they take dozens of civilians," said the DPR Deputy Prime Minister.
      Source: RIA Novosti
      http://versii.com/news/306603/
    2. +5
      24 June 2014 19: 34
      Everyone who sits in their trenches, both in straight quarry and the National Guard, all do not even know who BZDzhezinsky is, and about some overseas uncles, and the price of freedom. These zombies were simply driven like cattle for slaughter, but they said they would give 2500 hryvnias a month (doesn’t resemble Somalia? am ) ... KALA would have crashed at once, there would be no heap of any dead punitive battalions like "Aidar" and many others ...
    3. -3
      24 June 2014 19: 39
      But cool ... wassat
  3. +17
    24 June 2014 14: 38
    One of the few recent analyzes of the situation that inspires respect for the author.
  4. +7
    24 June 2014 14: 39
    The result, if you take Syria-3: 0, the Yankees again received horns.
  5. +4
    24 June 2014 14: 43
    "The tale of lies, but there is a hint in it, a lesson for good fellows"
    A.S. Pushkin.
    1. +1
      24 June 2014 15: 54
      Quote: tolyasik0577
      "The tale of lies, but there is a hint in it, a lesson for good fellows"

      Lies (female)
  6. Leshka
    +3
    24 June 2014 14: 43
    we need to hold out until the end of the year and in Ukraine there will be a complete collapse
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    3. +2
      24 June 2014 21: 41
      But it’s nothing that only 7,5 million Russians in the southeast. Didn’t you think that a catastrophe is coming exactly where the battles are now? Kiev somehow wintered ... but what will happen to these people? The war must end in the summer, otherwise be prepared to receive people and do not whine!
      From the Rostov region in the news ... residents who accepted people from Ukraine, demanded compensation from the state, it is difficult, they say, unprofitable ....
      UNDERSTAND ???? - They find it difficult, they hoped for money to feed people ....
      How are we hardened ....
  7. +4
    24 June 2014 14: 43
    Russian silence sounds louder ...
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 16: 54
      Quote: zao74
      Russian silence sounds louder ...


      Russian Foreign Ministry: EU assessment of Ukraine is biased and divorced from reality

      The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs calls the assessments contained in the statement, which was adopted on Monday by the EU Council in connection with the situation in Ukraine, biased and divorced from reality.
      A meeting of the EU Council on Foreign Affairs was held in Luxembourg on Monday, and a communique on Ukraine was adopted based on its results.

      "We are compelled to once again state the bias, political bias and isolation from reality of the assessments of Ukrainian events given by Brussels, the continuing suppression of facts" inconvenient "for the European Union, the unfounded, or even clearly falsified nature of the accusations against Russia," the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a comment on Tuesday.

      The Russian Foreign Ministry, in particular, drew attention to the fact that in the "conclusions" of the EU Council there is no mention of the deaths of dozens of children as a result of the "anti-terrorist operation", thousands of refugees who continue to arrive from Ukraine to the Russian Federation, repeated violations by the Ukrainian military of the Russian state border, attempted assault on the Russian embassy in Kiev.

      "Instead, the European Union still prefers to label the population of southeastern Ukraine as 'pro-Russian separatists', ignoring all the explanations that were repeatedly given by the Russian side about the goals of the presence and size of our Armed Forces near the Russian-Ukrainian state border," emphasizes the Foreign Ministry.

      "If the European Union is really interested in playing a serious positive role in resolving the Ukrainian crisis, then it is high time for it to start reconsidering its approaches in accordance with the real situation and not being afraid to overcome the EU's inertia," the Russian Foreign Ministry notes.
      Source: RIA Novosti
      http://versii.com/news/306598/
  8. +11
    24 June 2014 14: 45
    Quote :: "On the territory controlled by Kiev, dormant resistance cells have become active: facts of distribution of propaganda materials for Novorossia in Kherson, Kharkov and Odessa regions are known."


    Near Kharkov, the partisans attacked the military column and disappeared without losses. And then more.
  9. portoc65
    +5
    24 June 2014 14: 45
    Everything goes according to plan .. unfortunately for the Americans, Our Plan .. It all started with the fact that the Americans liked the Crimea, and away we go .............
  10. +21
    24 June 2014 14: 47
    Putin asked to withdraw permission to send troops. And now, whatever happens, GDP is pure as a baby! What kind of Russian troops in Ukraine can we talk about? He doesn’t have permission! Rather recalled! And everything that happens there is done by the hands of the Ukrainians themselves! And apparently, the turning point has indeed come! So get ready banderlog!
    1. +3
      24 June 2014 15: 45
      Banderlogs are getting ready: they are packing their suitcases ahead of time and looking for secluded places for digging caches, but it's too early to talk about a radical change. Americans are a lot on dirty tricks and do not intend to retreat. The war in Ukraine will continue as long as possible - until mothers rise in large numbers in defense of their children. The coffins are coming, the number of "unknowns" is multiplying ... Well, a humanitarian disaster is not far off. The junta won't last a month without Western aid. And then the debts for gas must be repaid (the court will be on our side), new supplies must be paid in advance. Mass enlightenment, sobering of minds, "cold and cold" should come. This will force the people to take to the streets and topple the prostituted puppet parashenkov regime. Time is working against the Svidomites. The South-East must withstand, and Russia must contribute to this in every possible way, not succumbing to provocations and not sending troops into Ukrland. She herself will rot and fall apart. Fascist metastases will do their job.
      1. +3
        24 June 2014 18: 14
        +1

        IMHO, a real turning point will be when the rebels take control of Kharkov (!) And Zaporozhye. Ideally, Dnepropetrovsk and Kremenchug. Then one of the stools from under the back of Kolomoisky will be knocked out.
        Now this will be a turning point, after which it will be possible to free the coastal areas of Novorossia and think about cleaning Kiev from the Western trash.
      2. +2
        24 June 2014 20: 36
        These are our dreams with you that the people will rise.
        1 There are no anti-junta leaders.
        2 The main population is either intimidated and burrowing, or with a dislocated brain and is ready to endure hardships and hardships for nothing ...
      3. +1
        24 June 2014 21: 35
        To overthrow the next president for the Ukrainians is not a problem, the problem is: who is the president? A twenty-year history has shown that to change a thief for a thief, only time to lose: Kuchma, Yushchenko, Yanukovych, Poroshenko - who is next? It's time to introduce "responsible external management".
      4. 0
        24 June 2014 21: 35
        To overthrow the next president for the Ukrainians is not a problem, the problem is: who is the president? A twenty-year history has shown that to change a thief for a thief, only time to lose: Kuchma, Yushchenko, Yanukovych, Poroshenko - who is next? It's time to introduce "responsible external management".
  11. +6
    24 June 2014 14: 47
    Donbass Stalingrad for Kiev: a fundamental turning point in the civil war in Ukraine

    Apparently Putin also noticed a fracture ....

    Putin proposed Federation Council to revoke permission to use aircraft in Ukraine
    Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday before leaving for Vienna on an official visit sent a letter to the Federation Council addressed to Chairman Valentina Matvienko, proposing the cancellation of the Federation Council resolution “on the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Ukraine,” said Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for the head of state .


    According to him, this was done “in order to normalize the situation and resolve the situation in the eastern regions of Ukraine, as well as in connection with the start of trilateral negotiations
    1. +5
      24 June 2014 14: 56
      There are plenty of people there, too, because permission is not needed.
      And as for technology and other things - permission was not and is not necessary.
      But she appears and it pleases. hi
  12. +3
    24 June 2014 14: 48
    Thieves' political games end there. And who doubted?)) Thank you - a great article!
  13. +10
    24 June 2014 14: 51
    Thanks to the author for a competent article. good In principle, everything goes to this, and I also recently had the same thoughts as the author about the state of affairs in Ukraine, but I could not put them into a normal article, all the time the poems come out! laughing
    1. +14
      24 June 2014 15: 01
      Quote: major071
      I could not put them into a normal article, all the time the poems come out!

      For inspiration...
    2. +3
      24 June 2014 15: 47
      Quote: major071
      In principle, everything goes to this, and I also recently had the same thoughts as the author about the state of affairs in Ukraine, but I could not put them into a normal article, all the time the poems come out!


      laughing So it was necessary to stamp a poem on this subject!
      1. +7
        24 June 2014 16: 06
         Stock building

        So it was necessary to stamp a poem on this subject!


        No, I won’t drink so much! feel drinks
  14. evilrussian
    +1
    24 June 2014 14: 51
    I wonder when the junta is already exhausted? Although winter is still close. Not long before the crash.
  15. +11
    24 June 2014 14: 52
    4. Nord Stream is temporarily stopped for routine maintenance for the period from 24 to 28 in June, and from 28 in June to 4 in July, only one branch of the pipeline will function;

    5. The EU will ripen to the required condition for a month or two, after which it will agree to almost any demands of Gazprom regarding South Stream and gas supplies;

    6. The EU elites do not believe in the realistic supply of shale gas from the United States (and rightly so);



    And THERE ARE WE AND Saw SOME VERY PERFORMANT KOZYRY PUTIN, of which he still oh how many; notice, and our soldiers are safe.
  16. +2
    24 June 2014 14: 54
    1. Further aggravation of the conflict and the increase in the number of provocations (disruption of the truce), the purpose of which is to get Russia to send troops into the New Russia;

    Putin today asked the Federation Council to revoke permission to send troops into Ukraine. On the one hand, this can provoke the junta to even more cruel measures and methods of struggle. On the other hand, they themselves invited observers from Europe and Russia, and now it's too late to bounce.
    We will hope for the success of the negotiations and their final result. What is the strength in, brother?
  17. +6
    24 June 2014 14: 56
    Guys, a radical change will come when the Ukrainian press wakes up and opens its eyes ...
    1. portoc65
      +2
      24 June 2014 15: 08
      tyk them on the same day will be fired in full force
    2. +3
      24 June 2014 15: 14
      I think the press has woken up long ago, but how do they not want to admit that they are stupid and naive little people who sold themselves for Amerov’s cookies ...
      here they’re blowing the old song ...
    3. 0
      24 June 2014 16: 44
      And they will wake up only when the sponsors run out of money, i.e. alas, not very soon. True, some can speed it up if desired, but do not want to mess.
  18. -3
    24 June 2014 14: 57
    The article is of course beautifully written, but the reality is different. The junta's superiority in military force is significant. For our help, Novorossia is no longer worth hoping for. Not for that, the Americans raked Ukraine in order to let it fall apart and simply will not give it up. And not some, all hoping that everything itself will be resolved in our favor. This does not happen ...
    1. +6
      24 June 2014 15: 36
      Nobody even hopes to self-help. I would like to remind you about the "Aydar" battalion, where is it now? Any evil spirits that are deliberately destroyed there with the help of Russia, the rest or, or deceived, or cowards meeting with the militia become sources of propaganda against the junta or perish.
    2. +3
      24 June 2014 15: 58
      Russ69
      Yes, the superiority of forces is significant, and in some ways overwhelming. And just stand it. not to mention that. to gouge it all, it will be very difficult. Highly. But the author caught the trends correctly. And these trends persist and are gaining momentum. Of course, throwing bonnets into the air is too early, but there is no reason to cry about polymers either.
    3. nicollider
      +1
      24 June 2014 16: 32
      What does it mean you should not hope for our help? explain what is meant
  19. +5
    24 June 2014 14: 58
    We are pleased to observe the dumping of Galicia into the abyss of poverty laughing Well, to hell with her, the main thing now is the DPR and LPR will fight off the Nazis and it is necessary to begin the liberation struggle in the rest of New Russia.
  20. Andrey82
    +4
    24 June 2014 15: 00
    This is partly true, but it must be taken into account that the money for the Slavs to kill each other as much as possible and for a long time will be allocated (already allocated) by the Western "partners". MANPADS were taken from warehouses and captured BMDs. Their number is not unlimited. The militias complain about the lack of RPGs and just machine guns. And we still have millions of Soviet AK and RPG in our warehouses (Serdyukov kept complaining). Is it really impossible to equip several. machines with trunks? They do not say that they are from Russia. And Soviet in the world in bulk. So you can’t show anything if something happens.
    1. +11
      24 June 2014 15: 19
      Is it really impossible to equip several. cars with trunks?
      -Do you see the gopher?
      -not
      -And I do not see. But he is.
      There were no Kord machine guns in the USSR. And the militias have them. And not only them. So that.
      1. nicollider
        +3
        24 June 2014 16: 33
        Kord machine guns? it thieving ensigns drove. no official deliveries are out of the question. it's all the thieving ensigns;)
  21. +3
    24 June 2014 15: 00
    As one of the likely scenarios is accepted, the author +, article +
  22. +3
    24 June 2014 15: 01
    And all thanks to New Russia and its heroes! We must pay tribute to the resistance of the militias against rabid fascists of all stripes and masters. It was they who forced the Nazi machine to stall. It was their heroism that turned the tide. Well, and of course, our non-interference and Putin’s correct behavior. Let him be slower than we would like, but Europe began to get into what it got into, i.e. the USA got it.
  23. +6
    24 June 2014 15: 02
    I think the situation will continue to continue, it seems to me that Putin does not need the DPR and LPR, but it is necessary for Russophobes to realize their inferiority, I'm afraid only treatment for Russophobia is hunger and cold this winter in dill and how sad is the fate of the DPR and LPR, pulling out the last resources from dill, so that the collapse was as strong as possible, because only as they say "with a table on the table" can Ukraine be cured
    1. +2
      24 June 2014 15: 45
      Quote: bmv04636
      it is necessary that Russophobes dill realize their inferiority; I am afraid only treatment for Russophobia is hunger and cold this winter in dill

      Exactly. And this is a chain reaction, such as: an increase in the crime situation in the rest of Ukraine (robbery, theft, violence), the media will automatically switch to this, more relevant topic at that time. The people will feel on their own skin all the delights of "European integration" ... belay
    2. 0
      24 June 2014 16: 33
      Quote: bmv04636
      I think the situation will continue to continue, it seems to me that Putin does not need the DPR and LPR, but it is necessary for Russophobes to realize their inferiority, I'm afraid only treatment for Russophobia is hunger and cold this winter in dill and how sad is the fate of the DPR and LPR, pulling out the last resources from dill, so that the collapse was as strong as possible, because only as they say "with a table on the table" can Ukraine be cured

      in vain such an expression is "not needed." the point is not that Russia has accepted these republics, but that Russia is a federation, which means that each subject has its own share of independence and self-sufficiency ....
      moreover, it goes that the DPR and LPR, one way or another, must create their own structure of statehood, and all other relations with Russia, this is an agreement ....
      rough....
      relations will also be formed even if the republics remain part of federal Ukraine, each subject of the federation has the right to relations with other states, except for political ones, the main thing is that it is with whom to build these relations whether they will be part of the Russian Federation or not.
  24. +6
    24 June 2014 15: 04
    Quote: Balamyt
    Putin asked to withdraw permission to send troops. And now, whatever happens, GDP is pure as a baby! What kind of Russian troops in Ukraine can we talk about? He doesn’t have permission! Rather recalled! And everything that happens there is done by the hands of the Ukrainians themselves! And apparently, the turning point has indeed come! So get ready banderlog!

    Your comment seemed very robust to me. Plus you + hi
  25. +4
    24 June 2014 15: 04
    good analysis, but I think it is premature to talk about a "turning point in the situation", there are still a number of very important meetings of real conductors of the world order, including on the situation in Ukraine ... bully
  26. 0
    24 June 2014 15: 04
    The third and fourth points are especially liked. smile
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 15: 13
      Hmm ... What a military ... Prisoners of war need to feed ... !!! Let THE BANDERLOGS SELECT and REQUEST VISAS to Europe ... !!!
  27. +2
    24 June 2014 15: 05
    GAZPROM-DREAMS COME TRUE! bully
  28. +1
    24 June 2014 15: 05
    Oh, it would be nice, if only ...
  29. +2
    24 June 2014 15: 07
    The press of the outskirts will not wake up, it is ..
  30. +3
    24 June 2014 15: 08
    Well, it seems very true .... God forbid they can dill at the most. And pravoseki - not warriors. the main mass of 20-year-old loafers will scatter home ... And in Kiev such a normal tricolor will rise ... Further everywhere ..
  31. +1
    24 June 2014 15: 08
    An optimistic view of the problem.
    Amerikosy so simply will not leave.
    We are waiting for new surprises.
  32. _Snip_
    0
    24 June 2014 15: 09
    These facts cannot but please.
  33. 0
    24 June 2014 15: 09
    The press of the outskirts will not wake up, it is ..
    in the sense of nocturnal enuresis
  34. Kakaktus
    0
    24 June 2014 15: 10
    A referendum on joining Russia will be held in Ukraine in a year !!!!! Let it be so !!!
  35. sazhka4
    0
    24 June 2014 15: 11
    Deja vu .. Everything has already been ..
  36. +1
    24 June 2014 15: 11
    Not so simple, citizens are capitalists !!! The odds were put on the wrong ones, calculate the present and future losses, and most importantly the geopolitical ones, to hell with radish and not New Russia and especially Russia ...
  37. portoc65
    0
    24 June 2014 15: 11
    Ukraine hasn’t died yet - we will help her with the whole world in her dream
    1. 0
      25 June 2014 19: 22
      She didn’t die, but the process is going on ...
  38. +2
    24 June 2014 15: 12
    Another red line on June 27, I hope ours have brought enough weapons and dug in properly. With all the negativity of the situation in Kiev, the abolition of the punitive operation and peace negotiations is the collapse of the Junta at an accelerated pace. In principle, military action for today's Ukraine is what keeps it from complete anarchy. Nothing unites and distracts people from problems like war.
    1. nicollider
      +1
      24 June 2014 16: 35
      in fact, nothing has changed - as they shot - and they shoot
  39. +2
    24 June 2014 15: 12
    By the way, not so long ago, Ms. Nuland met in Odessa with Kolomoisky, maybe the fact of parashenko’s impotence in matters of suppressing the Southeast is related to the displacement of the center of pro-American forces in Ukraine, and Poroshenko’s supposedly duplicitous statements about the ceasefire is not a lie, but simply inability and lack of leverage. Thirdly, it is not clear to me which constitution is valid on the outskirts? Article pluses.
  40. +2
    24 June 2014 15: 14
    Very sensible article. A rare guest among pro-American hysterical propaganda.
  41. Gloria45
    +2
    24 June 2014 15: 15
    Based on the above, you can point to a number of trends and predict the further development of events in Ukraine, provided that the troops of the Russian Federation will not be further introduced to the Donbass and Ukraine. The introduction of troops will bring down this scheme and thwart all the progress in the EU turn towards Russia, pushing the Europeans to sanctions and concluding an agreement on a transatlantic free trade zone with the United States, which will lead to a sharp strengthening of the US geopolitical positions and a rapid weakening of Russia's positions.




    June 24, 2014, 14:20 (Moscow time) | Politics | RIA News
    Putin proposed Federation Council to revoke permission to use aircraft in Ukraine
    Updated: 14: 52 (Moscow time)
    Topic: Crisis in the South-East of Ukraine
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    MOSCOW, Jun 24 - RIA News. Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday before leaving for Vienna on an official visit sent a letter to the Federation Council addressed to Chairman Valentina Matvienko, proposing the cancellation of the Federation Council resolution “on the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Ukraine,” said Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for the head of state .


    According to him, this was done "in order to normalize the situation and resolve the situation in the eastern regions of Ukraine, as well as in connection with the start of trilateral negotiations on this issue."

    The issue of withdrawing consent to the use of the Armed Forces of Russia in Ukraine will be considered by the Federation Council at the June 25 meeting.

    In March, the Federation Council of the Russian Federation unanimously voted to give the President of the Russian Federation consent to the use of Russian forces in Ukraine until the normalization of the socio-political situation in this country.

    One more step in our favor.
    I wonder what the US was thinking when they started all this in Ukraine?
    23 years was enough to ideologically prepare
    West dill move east. But why are these American experts
    did not take into account the coordination difference in mentality? I remember Hitler was also
    too self-confident when in the winter of 41 he was reported unusually
    severe frosts and difficulties for the German army, to which he replied:
    "Don't worry about the weather conditions. I'll take over the weather."
    kind, imagining himself to be God.
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 21: 23
      Quote: gloria45
      coordination difference

      I’m embarrassed to ask, what is this?
  42. 0
    24 June 2014 15: 20
    If in reality everything goes according to these points, then the city will seem to be the junk of life to the dill elite !!
  43. Just a passerby
    +16
    24 June 2014 15: 22
    Scho zrobili mi with you
    My rіdna Ukraine ...
    MP having sold us
    For a hundred bucks, like a beast ...

    According Khreschatyk to go
    Leather Day Fascist Dance
    All rulers with us
    Zapadenski sold ...

    Nі! Pindos is not my brother,
    I don’t want to ride ...
    It’s not our country,
    Polikha’s Bagatty ...

    And prick I planted a garden
    Dvokh sinіv toby Rostiv I ...
    Shchob kraina in us color
    Рідна ненька Україно ...

    Dіd having served in the NKVS
    I'm sorry me didusyu
    Treba Bulo All Bander,
    Who is Todi, when is the Union ...

    I’m automatically picking up
    I’m going to capture Nenko ...
    Gay! Strelkov, take me
    I’ll kindly fight!

    Without serving in the MPE,
    Not a tanker, I'm not a sniper ...
    Patriot of the land I
    Brother in the lavi take it!
    1. Old Cynic
      +2
      24 June 2014 15: 26
      Have you composed yourself?
      1. Just a passerby
        +5
        24 June 2014 15: 36
        Yes. only my grandfather did not serve in the NKVD. He was a pilot.
        1. Old Cynic
          +2
          24 June 2014 15: 39
          Well done! I'm not talking about my grandfather, about poetry in Ukrainian. There are, in my opinion, some discrepancies with the literary ... But, excuse me, I studied it at the end of the 70s of the last century, since then much could have changed ...

          And so - accept sincere gratitude!
  44. 0
    24 June 2014 15: 22
    that the troops of the Russian Federation will not continue to be introduced to the Donbass and Ukraine.
    Putin proposed the Federation Council to deprive him of the right to send troops to Ukraine, but so far it is not clear that the United States in Europe has become the third superfluous ...
  45. sazhka4
    -3
    24 June 2014 15: 22
    How to play .. hollow on the hollow .. with claudia in the order.
  46. +1
    24 June 2014 15: 23
    Ukraine will in fact not be united if the Yankees understand this and do not correct the situation. But they will not do this even if they want to. To do this, we need cash injections into the junta regime, in order to somehow alienate the poverty of the population, but there will be no money from them, a geyropa with the EU is trying to sign a European agreement with Ukropia, Georgia and Moldova. They still do not understand that they will need to be fed by all, as they are impoverished if there are no normal relations between these countries and Russia. Will the EU really need them, just for the bill? Although exclamations have already been heard that it is necessary to decide with Russia if the euro agreement is signed with these countries. But Russia will not throw a heavy iron on its foot in order to integrate Moldova, Georgia, Dill. These countries will already be strangers to us.
  47. Old Cynic
    +3
    24 June 2014 15: 23
    I will allow myself my five cents:

    [quote] 1. The militia had enough MANPADS to close the airspace of Donbass;
    2. Aviation of the Kiev authorities flies blindly over the Donbass, because militias destroyed or took control of radar stations in the controlled territory; [/ quote]

    So goofs "Kiev authorities' aviation" continues to fly over Donbas, albeit "blindly"? AND? Or are there exclusively civilian aircraft in the sky?

    [quote] 1. Kiev units suffer huge losses, which are forced to hide from the population; / quote]

    Confirmations from independent sources - to the studio! And you can say a lot ...

    [quote] Euromaidan President Petro Poroshenko goes to an open war with the head of the Kaganate Igor Kolomoisky [/ quote]

    But is it not exactly the other way around? Something I did not hear that Poroshenko refused to obey Kolomoisky’s orders.

    [quote] ... the thinking of European politicians is being rebuilt, and its bearers are forced to look at Ukrainian events not from an ideological perspective, but from an economic and healthy pragmatism perspective [/ quote]

    Here I am simply amazed at the laconicism of the phrase. Bravo to the author.

    [quote] ... disruption of the holiday season in the Black Sea cities of Ukraine [/ quote]

    This, of course, is now the most important thing in Ukraine ...


    PS By the way:
    [quote] 4. The militia received heavy weapons, in particular the T-64 tanks, the Grad MLRS and the barreled artillery, in quantities sufficient not only to deter, but also to gradually launch on the offensive;

    [/ Quote]
    Evidence of the presence of the "Grad" - IN THE STUDIO !!! Or you, the author, speak from the words of Avakov, who announced to the whole world that the militias were beating Slavyansk with "Grad".
    No? Not from his words? Then explain to me, please, if the militiamen have a "Grad", why have they not yet suppressed the firing positions in Karachune? What then are the militias waiting for? More sacrifices?
    1. nicollider
      -2
      24 June 2014 16: 37
      maybe they are not in Slavyansk, these cities, maybe there are no missiles, but you never know what could be. Incidentally, including disinformation.
  48. 0
    24 June 2014 15: 26
    Yes, music didn’t play for long ...! Apparently the truth is a turning point, since Vova is not going to send troops, that means there’s no reason why, so they’ll do it themselves.
  49. 0
    24 June 2014 15: 26
    An optimistic article, touched and now it became more clear the silence of Russia.
  50. GRune
    +4
    24 June 2014 15: 27
    4. The militia received heavy weapons, in particular the T-64 tanks, Grad MLRS and the barreled artillery in quantities sufficient not only to deter, but also to gradually transfer to the offensive;
    no evidence - delirium and American-Ukrainian propaganda. But today's request of the Supreme to revoke permission to use troops on Ukrainian territory is a bad call, he did not even decide how to relate to this.
  51. sazhka4
    -1
    24 June 2014 15: 30
    Исходя из вышеизложенного можно указать на ряд тенденций
    -------
    Шикарно..Каков слог.А по Русски умеешь?
    1. Old Cynic
      +1
      24 June 2014 15: 35
      Автор "в академиях не учили, в университетах не кончали"...
    2. P-38
      +2
      24 June 2014 16: 04
      Ну простите вы автору некоторую стилистическую корявость, в журналистике иногда бывает, качеством жертвуют для оперативности. Ведь в материале важнее суть! Особенно в ТАКОМ МАТЕРИАЛЕ!
  52. +2
    24 June 2014 15: 33
    Естественн,о плюс! А я уже приготовился до 27 числа отключить себя от информации, чтобы лишний раз не расстраиваться, а тут по ТВ о переговорах трубят. Очень много интересных моментов. В так называемом мирном плане Порошенко, нет даже никаких намеков на прошедшие переговоры. Мелькнуло сообщение, что решение Путина ооб отмене использования войск на Украине, по словам Порошенко, поддерживает его "мирный план". Похоже, что его отодвинули в сторону, а он пытается сохранить лицо. Или сам устранился. Что-же такое случилось, кто ему мозги вправил?
    Есть, конечно вероятность и подозрение, что это просто маневр хунты. Но в случае возобновления боевых действий, вся вина на это, даже в глазах так называемого мирового сообщества, будет на ней.
  53. +2
    24 June 2014 15: 34
    В чем проблема-то? Перегнать туда "небольшую" кучку формы и прочей снаряги НАТОвского образца - пусть к себе претензии предъявляют!
    (ну, а стволы - откуда-нибудь из "солидола" достать, типа "со времен братской помощи странам Африки на складах Вкраины оставались..")
  54. Sigismund
    +3
    24 June 2014 15: 36
    Ну, как то, так.Медленно из-за горизонта,выплывала огромная,огромная.. жопа.
  55. Russianin
    +1
    24 June 2014 15: 36
    А вот какое перемирие сейчас на Донбассе.
    Summary from Strelkova 24.06.2014 10: 50


    Вчера вечером, после 18-00 противник установил миномётную батарею на опорном пункте в поселке Восточный. После чего открыл огонь по селу Семёновка, 5 бойцов ополчения получили лёгкие ранения. Ответным огнём один расчёт уничтожен. До завершения светового дня дорога через Семёновку простреливалась танком противника, в частности прострелу подвергались автомобили «Газель» доставлявшие в город продукты питания.

    On the morning of June 24, artillery skirmishes and positional battles in the Semyonovka area resumed. There are wounded on our side.

    Западнее Краматорска противником выставлены новые блок-посты, усиленные бронетехникой.
    North-East of Kramatorsk, in the area of ​​the settlement of Malinovka, the appearance of the "Right Sector" detachments with the symbols of the "SS-Galicia" Division was noted.

    По прежнему не представляется возможным восстановление водоснабжения Славянска и Краматорска, в связи с тем, что основные водонапорные сооружения заняты подразделениями украинской армии и нацгвардией .Противник продолжает усиливать свой плацдарм в районе Кривая Лука-Закотное. Таким образом говорить о какого либо соблюдении перемирия в районе боевых действий не приходится.
    1. nicollider
      0
      24 June 2014 16: 40
      символика дивизии галичина, они там историю совсем не знают...
  56. +1
    24 June 2014 15: 37
    Хорошая статья. По крайней мере не "все пропало!!!". Разрешение на ввод войск сделало свое дело в свое время. Теперь оно только мешает. Теперь будут работать более тонкими, подковерными методами. Я думаю, что Параша не особо в восторге от раскладов, намечающихся на Ю-В и побережье (Коломейский). Так что не удивлюсь, если укровская армия пойдет единым фронтом в Днепропетровск.
  57. Russianin
    0
    24 June 2014 15: 39
    Командир батальона «Айдар»: В руководстве АТО есть предатели

    Командир батальона «Айдар» Сергей Мельничук в эфире украинского телевидения рассказал, что, по его мнению, в руководстве так называемой антитеррористической операции на юго-востоке Украины есть предатели. Он заявил, что ополченцы Донецкой и Луганской народных республик обладают информацией о всех планах украинских силовиков.

    В эфире программы «Свобода слова» на украинском телеканале ICTV командир 24-го батальона «Айдар» Сергей Мельничук высказал мнение, что в министерстве обороны, отвечающем за так называемую антитеррористическую операцию на востоке Украины, есть предатели, о чём говорит осведомлённость ополченцев о всех шагах руководства АТО.

    «Я уверен в том, что в руководстве АТО есть предательство. Потому что пленные, которых мы захватываем, они над нами смеются и рассказывают, что «мы знаем каждый вылет вашего самолёта, каждый вылет вашего вертолёта, мы знаем все ваши указания». «Когда происходят бомбардировки или иные события, мы просто уходим с позиций, а затем возвращаемся», — заявил Мельничук.


    [media=http://http://youtu.be/fD1U4AP-cyg]


    Гибель «Айдара»

    18 июня ополченцы в ходе боя практически полностью уничтожили украинский батальон «Айдар», который направлялся из города Счастья в Луганск. Об этом заявил глава самопровозглашённой Луганской народной республики Валерий Болотов.

    Позже киевские власти приняли решение расформировать батальон, обвинив его командира Сергея Мельничука в намеренном оставлении зоны боя. Мельничук в свою очередь обвинил руководителей войсковой операции: по его мнению, «пограничники и вооружённые силы Украины и в дальнейшем будут терять свои склады и людей из-за несостоятельности руководства».

    Окончательная судьба «Айдара» пока неизвестна. Накануне секретарь Совета национальной безопасности и обороны Украины Андрей Парубий заявил, что окончательное решение ещё не принято.

    «Президент Украины Пётр Порошенко лично взял под контроль ситуацию, он приостановил любые действия и приказы относительно 25 батальона территориальной обороны. И я уверен, что Порошенко отследит эту ситуацию и сможет принять единственно верное и адекватное решение относительно батальона «Айдар», — сказал Парубий.
    1. Old Cynic
      +3
      24 June 2014 15: 44
      А что же эта твapь могла ещё сказать? Признаться в собственной тупости? ЩАЗ!!!
      Легче всего всё списать на предательство. Мол, я тут такой красивый, на белом коне и с шашкой... А тут вдруг из кустов - хренак! - и я уже жалкий, в дерьме и с проблемами...
  58. +2
    24 June 2014 15: 40
    Хорошая статья.Автору респект
  59. +1
    24 June 2014 15: 46
    дай Бог, как говорится, но уж больно всё сверхоптимистично и для России, и для Новороссии, да и в прозрение гейропы верится с трудом.вероятнее всего, после 27 числа бои начнутся с новой силой, ещё более ожесточённее, и поток беженцев в Россию только увеличится.
  60. 0
    24 June 2014 15: 47
    Если все так как написано в статье, то почему Украина еще Украина?
    Можно конечно говорить о успехах ополчения, но как мне кажется не нужно идеализировать настоящую обстановку.
    Да и позиция России непонятна ни для кого.
  61. P-38
    +1
    24 June 2014 15: 59
    Убедительно! Автору респект и уважение, и вопросов нет. Виват Новороссия!
  62. 0
    24 June 2014 16: 05
    Все-таки это- самый оптимисичный сценарий, но если получится даже половина, то итог в нашу пользу...
  63. komrad.klim
    -1
    24 June 2014 16: 08
    Quote: Peter Timofeev
    An optimistic article, touched and now it became more clear the silence of Russia.

    Вот еще понятливее:

  64. +1
    24 June 2014 16: 25
    "4. У ополчения появилось тяжёлое вооружение, в частности танки Т-64, РСЗО «Град» и ствольная артиллерия количествах, достаточных не только для сдерживания, но и для постепенного перехода в наступление;"
    Пока этого нет в бою считай что нет ничего
    1. nicollider
      0
      24 June 2014 16: 42
      ну танки использовались в бою за Саур-Могилу. вроде
  65. -1
    24 June 2014 16: 30
    Хотят Россию затащит в войну,чтоб все на Нас списать!Не думайте,что Кремль Нас продает!А самолеты на Донбассе не палками сбивают,и танки от спички не загорятся!Ввести войска можно и без разрешения СФ!
  66. 0
    24 June 2014 16: 33
    Дай-то Бог, чтоб Новороссия жила и процветала!
  67. +1
    24 June 2014 16: 36
    Хорошо написано.Нечего добавить.Главное никаких истерик и лозунгов.
  68. +1
    24 June 2014 16: 39
    Хунта фашистская выдыхается...Если кто занимался боевыми единоборствами- поймёт. Противник весь такой "техничный", разминается- поглядеть, так "терминатор". Выходит под одобряющий рёв своих болельщиков. Но вот- под канаты уезжает на спине от "скромного бойца". Именно это мы и наблюдаем на Новороссийском фронте. Мамки- няньки трассы перекрывают в Западенщине. "Как же-ж они такие необутые голодные, без броников-касок, людей-то убивать станут? Не покушамши-то? Не вдомёк, что жратвы карателям не надо. Они кровь пьют у своих же братьев. И тётки эти жирные- как клещихи обожратые. А потому нет прощения укрофашистам. "Перешли они грань закона. И тем самым себя поставили вне законов Человеческих" (с)."А зори здесь тихие"- Шедевр такой, который бандеровцы не знают. am
    1. 0
      25 June 2014 09: 00
      Хорошая цитата отличного произведения!
  69. orb13
    +1
    24 June 2014 16: 42
    Любимая забава русского народа-закидывать шапками незадачливых врагов.
    Вот только не всегда получается,как мы знаем из истории...
    Думаю,что концовка июня после окончания срока Шоколадного Затишья многое прояснит и только тогда-после усиления наших и перегруппирования "ихних" либо наступит качественный перелом в тактике ведения боевых действий войск ополчения,либо будет нацистский блицкриг единым ударом.
    Конечно,надежда на наших: наших ополченцев,добровольцев,иначе говоря,наших "республиканцев",их стойкость и несгибаемость.
    К моей радости,наконец-то наступают времена,когда слово "патриот" перестаёт быть ругательством,а я начинаю годиться своей страной.Дорога к этому заняла 25 лет и я хорошо помню,как мы радовались всеобщему развалу,как ,оболваненные овской пропагандой.
    Но хохлы,видно,не поняли тогда,до них не дошло до сих пор...
  70. 0
    24 June 2014 16: 44
    Слишком гладко и просто получилось у автора, ну прямо по восточной мудрости "просто надо подождать и плод сам упадет к вам в руки".Однако есть несколько НО.При раскладе озвученном автором ,хунте терять нечего и ей ничего не помешает пуститься во все тяжкие с РСЗО,крупнокалиберной артиллерией и авиацией.И еще один аспект-ни кто из политиков Украины не возьмет на себя ответственность за отвод войск из Новороссии,следовательно хунтовские войска останутся на своих местах в Новороссии,а это тупик.Реальную армию ,способную выдавить хунтовские войска из Новороссии, ДНР и ЛНР создать не смогут,таким образом противостояние может затянуться до ноября.Только с ноября хунт.войска приостановят активные БД.Ну вот как то так пессимистично.
  71. +1
    24 June 2014 16: 48
    Перелом, вот именно, что "перелом". Сломали страну, измучили народ, а сколько еще замучают. И все это делает одна страна, лежащая от своих злодеяний за тысячи километров. Ее представители, как саранча нападают на чужую страну, уничтожают ее инфраструктуру, людей живущих там, оставляют выжженное пространство, высасывают все соки из земли и "летят" к новой. Как же это допускает мировое сообщество?! Вот когда действия этой страны осудят и остановят стаю саранчи, тогда и будет коренной перелом.
    1. 0
      25 June 2014 09: 02
      Давно пора звездно-матрасных объявить ВРАГОМ ВСЕГО ЧЕЛОВЕЧЕСТВА!
  72. Lucifer
    -5
    24 June 2014 16: 48
    Все то, что происходит настоящее время в Украине, один в один напоминает то, что происходило в Чечне в девяностые годы прошлого века. Та же плохо обученная и оснащённая регулярная армия, спасая целостность страны, борется с отмороженными боевиками, спонсируемыми РФ, среди которых много иностранных наемников, воюющими якобы за свободу и независимость. Так называемые «преступления» Украинской армии при проведении КТО, не идут ни в какое сравнение с тем, что делали солдаты РФ в Чечне, где по самым приблизительным оценкам погибло около 30 тыс. мирных жителей.
  73. Russianin
    0
    24 June 2014 16: 52
    In the meantime.
    В Славянске под минометный обстрел попали журналисты Первого канала




    Несмотря на договоренности о перемирии, на востоке Украины продолжается стрельба. Корреспондент Первого канала Александр Евстигнеев днем 24 июня сообщил, что их съемочная группа попала под минометный обстрел под Славянском.

    К счастью, журналисты живы, никто не пострадал. Кто стрелял, есть ли жертвы и разрушения в городе, пока неизвестно.

    Ранее сегодня сообщалось, что на территории ДНР и ЛНР, несмотря на договоренности о временном перемирии, все-таки продолжается стрельба. Кроме того, батальон добровольцев "Азов", который финансирует олигарх Игорь Коломойский, был направлен в район проведения так называемой антитеррористической операции на востоке Украины. На данный момент батальон насчитывает 500 человек.
  74. +1
    24 June 2014 17: 12
    Не рановато-то ли народ радуется! Не ясно ещё ничего! Вся война между Хунтой и ополчением ещё впереди...
  75. Atoll
    -1
    24 June 2014 17: 38
    Quote: Lucifer
    Так называемые «преступления» Украинской армии при проведении КТО, не идут ни в какое сравнение с тем, что делали солдаты РФ в Чечне, где по самым приблизительным оценкам погибло около 30 тыс. мирных жителей.
    Ну, давайте сравним преступления укроnazi с преступлениями их хозяев. Начнем, наверное, с геноцида индейцев, продолжим немецкими городами. Потом был Кельн, Хиросима и Нагасаки. Про Корею и Вьетнам напомнить? Есть с кого брать пример бандерлогам! Давай сравним цифры и проценты. Иудейские супернацисты, при помощи своего ударного кулака - США - за прошлый век с 1914 по 2014 уничтожили около 60 миллионов землян. РФ за это время уничтожила - своих белых братьев германцев - 8,600 тыс солдат вермахта + гипотетически 30 тыс чеченов. Раса боролась за свою свободу от коричневой чумы и от джихада. А за что боретесь вы, западенцы?
  76. +1
    24 June 2014 18: 10
    Quote: Gorinich
    Если на спасение Украины денег никто не дает, то для продолжения войны деньги находятся. А это говорит о некоторых других целях противника, а именно создание долгосрочного очага дестабилизации, рассчитанного на долгие годы.

    В точку! Абсолютно согласен! Не могут зажечь пожар в самом доме, надо подпалить округу, чтоб жить стало неуютно. Во всех странах, где побывали янкерсы со своей "воинственной демократией" жизнь стала только хуже!
  77. -1
    24 June 2014 18: 56
    Quote: Gorinich
    Если на спасение Украины денег никто не дает

    Спорное утверждение!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  78. 0
    24 June 2014 19: 41
    Господи спаси и сохрани сети интернета от нашествия троллей.Как закукарекали те кто,прыгает как не русские,орут за ввод войск,сидят за диваном,на диване страшно. foolРусские уже не прыгают bully
  79. 0
    24 June 2014 19: 54
    ну что ж .... теперь ВИДНО НА СКОЛЬ ПУТИН -сыграл в НОВОЙ ТИП ВОИН!
    ЗАГНАЛ США в ОБАЛДЕННУЮ ЛОВУШКУ))
    ТЕПЕРЬ ЖДЕМ -перестройки в США!
  80. macarque
    -1
    24 June 2014 20: 03
    Разбор ситуации конечно интересный... но как то уж очень радужно для правды
  81. 0
    24 June 2014 20: 28
    Из всего авторского "перелома" более весомый довод о контроле над границей, да и то "пока". Еще и конца войны не видно, а уже "перелом". Тактически в отдельно взятом месте - Да! Перелом возможен со взятия мариупольского порта - это уже кое что. А там за Запорожьем - там тару-рам-тару рам. laughing Это не ехидство. Смотрим в реалии и видим реальных ГЕРОЕВ! Перелом делают как бы политики по партийным спискам, а эти прпосто свою землю защищают! Это и есть реальная политика во плоти! Молодая, незрелая, но ДУХ и ЧЕСТЬ имеют. И быстро обучаются. Не проспите свой час господа из российской Госдумы! Скоро они вас заменят. И поделом.
  82. 0
    24 June 2014 20: 32
    Quote: Alexan
    Meanwhile, VVP refused to allow the entry of troops abroad to protect fellow tribesmen. I understand that they will present it as a new "trick", but this was Kiev's demand, voiced a week ago. Do we bend under the Ukrainians? Not "everything is lost" yet, but they are doing more for this every day!

    Нужно глубже глядеть. Зачем вводить войска и становиться всемирным агрессором? Выигрыш тройной: заявление показало миролюбие России и привлекло Европу, Порошенко выглядит полным идиотом в глазах Европы, штаты лишены возможности развязать в Европе войну.
    А от помощи юго-востоку ни кто не отказался. Может подробные планы пожелаете для ознакомления? Тогда в совет безопасности.
  83. -1
    24 June 2014 20: 36
    Про ПИД01сов:

    наши СРЕДСТВА МАССОВОЙ ИНФОРМАЦИИ (которые теряют своих бойцов на войне за ПРАВДУ):
    - украинский генерал стал на колени перед экс-послом США...
    Укропские сми (объяснение позора):
    - Однако эта фотография была сделана не 25 мая 2014 года, а еще 17 июня 2013 года в украинском городе Херсоне. На фотографии изображено вручение оружия Чрезвычайному и Полномочному Послу Соединенных Штатов Америки в Украине Джону Теффту в честь заслуг родоначальника военно-морского флота США Джона Поля Джонса, который 226 лет назад принял казацкую присягу, а потом служил контр-адмиралом Российского императорского флота...

    Мрази, да пофиг, перед кем ваш укропский генерал на колени встает, все одно - вы - пид01сы! laughing
  84. +2
    24 June 2014 20: 48
    У каждого есть отвращение к какому-либо звуку. Кому-то не нравится скрип пенопласта, кому-то ещё что-то. А мне противно читать о высоком полёте мысли, стратегическом тайном плане и т.д. Не принимаю мнение, которое оправдывает ковровые бомбардировки, огонь по автобусам, больницам, детсадам и просто жилым домам. А теперь меня убеждает автор этой статьи в том, что самый противный звук - звук предательства, нечто одного уровня с классической музыкой, колыбельной песней или звуком колоколов. И плевать мне на Гейропу и не понятно, почему до сих пор северная Америка ещё может диктовать кому-то условия.
  85. 0
    24 June 2014 20: 50
    Интересны умозаключения в некоторых комментариях-"слив,не слив ЮГО-ВОСТОКА".Не найдется столько информации в головах некоторых товарищей,сколько их имеется у главы Государства-В.В.Путина,у которого любая инфа от ФСБ,ГРУ и тд. и тп.Исходя из этого и принимаются соответствующие решения.Убежден,глава на правильном пути.
  86. +1
    24 June 2014 21: 06
    Может, не совсем в тему, но,как дополнение к статье - на мой взгляд это весьма символично и это жжжжж не спроста- в переводе "карачун" означает черная смерть а старое название Славянска Тор. Тор - бог грома и молнии, защитник людей.
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  88. 0
    24 June 2014 21: 43
    Надо атаковать не только на фронте, но и всеми силами в СМИ.
    Так делают правосеки в Славянске
  89. gawcko
    0
    24 June 2014 22: 08
    Спасибо Иван. Кратко, талантливо, красиво, все по полочкам. Восхищён. Браво!!!
  90. Vladimir I
    0
    24 June 2014 23: 26
    Если верить автору то:
    - Все хорошо прекрасная маркиза ...
    - Хунта фашистская выдыхается...

    Наоборот сегодня Донбасс оказался в глубокой заднице, а его население разбредается по другим областям Украины или бежит на территорию России. Работы нет. За что жить будем?
    Надежда на то, что Россия, как и остальной мир, признает ДНР и ЛНР практически умерла.
    Где автор увидел коренной перелом?
  91. 0
    25 June 2014 00: 17
    Вообще-то, необходимо просто озаботиться вопросом- кому больше доверия при описании сложившейся реальной ситуации на Юго-Востоке: восторженным борзописцам или тому же Стрелкову? Мож тогда кто-то и постыдится чепчик в воздух подбрасывать?
  92. 0
    25 June 2014 01: 14
    Богу в уши бы все это вложить. Удачи и победы Новороссии.
  93. 0
    25 June 2014 03: 32
    Статья замечательная, очень конкретная, четкая! Спасибо автору!
  94. reservist77
    0
    25 June 2014 07: 40
    Скорейшая консолидация вооруженных сил Новоросии, скоординированная единым командованием - даст возможность скорейшего очищения территорий от укров
  95. 0
    25 June 2014 08: 29
    Решение Путина об отмене разрешения на ввод войск на Украину очень правильное и своевременное,в принципе это удар "под дых" всем "партнерам-недоброжелателям",а еще это вера в способность Армии Новороссии отразить агрессию киевских карателей.Что касается оружия какого и сколько посчитаем после разгрома войск хунты!Хочу напомнить о том,что о вводе войск в Новороссию речь вообще не шла,а это совсем другое (хоть пока еще не признанное)Государство!
  96. 0
    25 June 2014 09: 16
    Решение Путина об отмене разрешения на ввод войск на Украину можно рассматривать и как хороший ход по отношению к готовящейся провокации по применению наёмников с территории Венгрии под видом российского нашествия на территорию Ю-В Укрии.
  97. novik-rif
    0
    25 June 2014 10: 25
    Я здесь выше увидел награждение американского посла в Херсоне.
    Так вот, должен сказать следующее:
    - Крым без Херсонской области - это чемодан без ручки! А без Донбасса и Юга не только без ручки, но и БЕЗ ХОЗЯИНА!
    И потому весь этот детский лепет про Керченский мост - бред сивой кобылы в дождливую ночь.
    Ю-В Украины - КЛЮЧ К ПОЛНОМУ ВЛАДЕНИЮ АЗОВСКИМ и ЧЕРНЫМ МОРЯМИ!!! Только так можно стать полным хозяином на Черноморском театре! И только слепой и тупой этого не понимает.
    А потому откиньте ваши доморощенные "стратегии" и оправдания Кремля! Пока ВВП шептался с Меркель да оглядывался на ЕС, Киев опомнился, пришел в себя и начал действовать! И не только Киев! Беня - соперник непростой!
    Так что иметь у себя под боком зону хаоса и разрухи - не самый мудрый поступок.
    Теперь про Европу и политику Путина.
    Неужели вы все думаете, что ЦЕЛИ ЕС, НАТО и США можно корректировать каким-то временным поджатием собственного хвоста и его легким вилянием перед этой Мировой Шоблой? Наивные! Цели и задачи этих ребят давно уже определены. А виляние Кремля собственной задницей перед ними - не более чем легкий флирт, а не серьезные внешнеполитические шаги!

    PS. Кстати, об украинском "генерале", вручавшему оружие амерскому послу Тефту.
    Тефт под занавес своего ухода попал в Херсон, где дебильные пресмыкающиеся украинец.власти чевствовали основателя ВМФ США Пол Джонса. На фото ПРЕДСТАВИТЕЛЬ БУТАФОРНОГО УКРАИНСКОГО КАЗАЧЕСТВА и вручил практически снятому с поста послу бутафорское именное оружие!
    Если бы и местных херсонских были мозги, они бы пригласили на торжества НОВОГО ПОСЛА или же представителей ВМФ США и потомков Пол Джонса. Но МОЗГОВ ТАМ НИКОГДА НЕ ВОДИЛОСЬ и в будущем не предвидится!
  98. 0
    25 June 2014 10: 36
    Quote: papik09
    ВВП все сделано абсолютно правильно. А вот п.и.н.д.о.с.т.а.н.у, похоже, кранты приближаются. То есть США идёт в гости к пушному зверьку, который подкрадывается незаметно. Имя его - писец (полный). Это и есть СТРАТЕГИЯ (а не тактика).


    Насчет "сделано правильно" согласен. На счет "зверька", твои слова да Богу в уши. Хотя думаю США еще много гадостей успеют наделать.
  99. novik-rif
    0
    25 June 2014 10: 42
    Quote: ghbvfrjd
    Хотя думаю США еще много гадостей успеют наделать.

    Ты ПРАВИЛЬНО думаешь! И пока "пушной зверек" вломился в гости К СЛАВЯНАМ!
  100. +1
    25 June 2014 12: 34
    Автору спасибо, за то что собрал и резюмировал все новости и вытекающие из них тезисы за последние две недели. Пословица "нас **ут, а мы крепчаем" наглядно демонстрируется в виде захваченной техники и укрепления отрядов ДНР и ЛНР, было бы прекрасно если бы немного помогли ополченцам сосредоточенным под Славянском. В общем все идет своим чередом, ЕС одупляется осознавая необходимость и важность дружественных и партнерских отношений, президент майдана транслирует всему миру свою несостоятельность как политика и руководителя, США в затупе от того, что события развиваются не по написанному ими сценарию и продолжают городить чепуху про "туристов пересекающих границу" для отдыха в ростовских горных курортах, притом в таких количествах какие не снились турции и египту вместе взятых в самый сезон и т.д. Особенно радует, что европа осознает что участие США в жизни экономической и политической жизни ЕС необязательно, а если быть точнее паразитирующе и губительно. Как вчера ответил Хайнц Фишер журналистам на вопрос о присутствии третьей стороны, в частности представителей США для подписания документов о строительстве "Южного потока" что это их не касается и как только коснется они их позовут, кроме того дважды за встречу признался, что Вена вынужденно участвует в санкциях против России. Сделал он это и на встрече с деловыми кругами Австрии, тем самым дав ясно понять, что экономика для ЕС важнее политических игр.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

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