The incident in the sky over Germany with the participation of the German Air Force fighter

In the sky above the village of Elpe of the federal state of North Rhine-Westphalia, two aircraft collided along a tangential trajectory. One is the German Air Force fighter, the second is the light engine Learjet. At least one person died. Reports the German edition about it Süddeutsche Zeitung.

After the tangential collision, the German Air Force fighter managed to reach the nearest airfield, and the small-engine aircraft crashed in 80 meters from residential buildings. On board the Learjet were two people. The body of one of them has already been discovered, the fate of another person has not yet been reported.

It is known that light aircraft belonged to one of the services of the German Ministry of Defense. The fighter who participated in the incident belongs to the 31 Squadron "Boelcke". It consists of one of the oldest aerobatic teams in Germany, based on the Nörvenich airfield.

Details of the damage to the fighter of the German Air Force are not reported.

Comments

[portoc65]

This is Putin's fault.

[Vadivak]

Quote: ...

One - German Air Force fighter

Taktisches Luftwaffengeschwader 31 "Boelcke"
(Tactical Air Force Wing 31)


Armed with Eurofighter Typhoon

[1812 1945]

Quote: Vadivak

Armed with Eurofighter Typhoon

It seems - this aerobatic man scorched. Ponte was never brought to good. God bless the soul of the deceased.

[VOLCHOXURAL]

Quote: 1812 1945

It seems - this aerobatic man scorched. Ponte was never brought to good. God bless the soul of the deceased.

Especially in the sky! For any scorched!

[Simple]

Quote: Vadivak

Armed with Eurofighter Typhoon

Crossed with Tornado.

Last Tornado with tail number ECR 46 + 45, as usual, repainted.
The ceremony was held in March 2013 year.

Drive the car under its own power on the Taktisches Luftwaffengeschwader 51 “Immelmann”

[portoc65]

Putin never sleeps

[b.t.a.]

Cool!

[Oprychnik]

Again, someone will kill the air traffic controller. A dangerous profession, however!

[zibo1668]

They are mistaken plans are much more global !!!

[Pula]

Cool, if not sad ... I listen to Western politicians on their media, and they seem to have developing "dementia". Everyone continues to fight the USSR.

[Igor62]

Do not go to a fortuneteller!

[ksv1973]

Quote: portoc65

This is Putin's fault.

Irony and gloating are inappropriate - two people died. You are minus.

[portoc65]

when Yugoslavia was bombed, I was at that time in Pancevo .. with my own eyes I saw it all like Natto pilots bomb the Pancevo factory ... For you, Natta pilots are people, and since then I’ve been animals ... didn’t want to answer - put down the minuses want lope, for me since then the pilots of the Natto-beasts ... are not humans ..

[Committee]

No, this is "polite" heaven. Saturated with fresh, mountainous Rostov air.

[nikrandel]

I wonder how our star Psaki would comment on this incident.

[Wedmak]

There is evidence that the Russians shot down two German aircraft from MANPADS. I will clarify this information when I return to my office.

[Prokop]

Quote: nikrandel

I wonder how our star Psaki would comment on this incident.

As if not commented, anyway - would have laughed, she has all ruminants kamenty.

[Fregate]

The body of one of them has already been discovered, the fate of another person has not yet been reported.

The second was Putin and he jumped with a parachute. Already crossed the border with the Kaliningrad region.

[herruvim]

Yes, the lighter was unlucky, judging by the debris, a blow like a wall

[portoc65]

Where are the psaki incident comments?

[vkrav]

What a tight sky in Germany ... Soon, traffic lights on airships will have to hang.

[lexx2038]

Well, it happens.

[Vadivak]

Quote: lexx2038

Well, it happens.

colmoian would into this lightweight

[Prokop]

Quote: Vadivak

colmoian would into this lightweight

All Kalomoisky will not fit in it, there are few places.

[portoc65]

Psaki probably say, Donbass terrorists shot down 2 peaceful fighters of the German Air Force

[jovanni]

No, well then he is a fighter. Here, I destroyed one ...

[armageddon]

Hmm ... PILOT and DISPATCHER error ... HUMAN FACTOR ... DAMN !!!

[Simple]

Quote: Armagedon

Hmm ... PILOT and DISPATCHER error ... HUMAN FACTOR ... DAMN !!!

According to a German air traffic control representative, Learjet was not controlled by civilian air traffic control, but flew like
and two Eurofighter, controlled by the military.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/weltspiegel/learjet-kollidiert-mit-kampfjet-absturz-i
m-sauerland-mindestens-ein-toter / 10088030.html

[Giant thought]

And in the German sky there is enough mess.

[Stypor23]

I immediately recall July 2002. I won’t say anything about a light motor, but the loss of an enemy fighter is undoubtedly good news.

[Wedmak]

but the loss of an enemy fighter is no doubt good news.

What will he do? Maximum dent on the wing, fixed, once reached the base.

[Stypor23]

Well, we do not yet know about the degree of damage, it can not be restored.

[Wedmak]

Perhaps we can even place bets. I am for the fact that they will restore - there are not so many aircraft in Europe to write them off because of such a "trifle".

[Stypor23]

We can do without bets. We hope that at the largest bases of the German air force in the hangars the roofs will collapse, I immediately recall May 2002.

[Iline]

Again, the stealth is to blame, disguised and fly wherever they want. Joke.
What is stealth if they cannot find a simple plane.

[Wedmak]

It is curious that on the stele the silhouettes of Mig-23 and Mig-19 (or Saber?) In Germany were Soviet fighters? Or am I wrong?

[portoc65]

Quote: Wedmak

It is curious that on the stele the silhouettes of Mig-23 and Mig-19 (or Saber?) In Germany were Soviet fighters? Or am I wrong?

Looks like a MIG 23 with folded wings and 19 .. very similar

[Quzmi4]

Learn the materiel ...
Is it really so difficult to search the net 31 for a fighter-bomber squadron and find out if the silhouettes are not typical enough, that the fat man is the Republic F-84F Thunderstreak, and with the variable geometry wing, the Panavia Tornado?

[Wedmak]

Learn the materiel ...

Rude was not necessary. The silhouettes are really very similar.

[Quzmi4]

Learn the materiel ...
Is it really so difficult to search the net 31 for a fighter-bomber squadron and find out if the silhouettes are not typical enough, that the fat man is the Republic F-84F Thunderstreak, and with the variable geometry wing, the Panavia Tornado?

[Simple]

Quote: portoc65

Looks like a MIG 23 with folded wings and 19 .. very similar

The stella shows the silhouettes of Eurofighter, Tornado, Saber and F-104 Starfighter.

[Crazyzyear]

Rrrr guys, I'm not in chickens!

[portoc65]

Damn laugh .. well, you can’t do this .. I can’t

[nils]

Learjet 85 is the largest, highest, and widest private jet owned by Canadian aircraft manufacturer Bombardier.

The Learjet 85 business jet was developed from scratch at Bombardier Aerospace and today is rightfully considered the best flagship among the Learjet line.
Learjet 85 dimensions: length - 20,76 m, wingspan - 18,75 m (wing area - 37,25 sq. M) and height - 6,08 m. Empty weight - 10977 kg, maximum take-off weight - 15195 kg.

Learjet 85 business class private jet priced at standard is $ 17,2 million (according to 2012 of the year).

[portoc65]

The enemy suffered losses ..

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Sorry for the dead .. Something is not agreed to see ..

[portoc65]

In a war, as in a war, it’s a pity for peaceful planes .. I’m not a couple of military countries of NATO, but I’m sorry .. They are our potential opponents ..

[nils]

The Bombardier Learjet 85 drive includes the 2 engine of the Pratt & Whittney PW307B Turbine allowing the jet to reach the maximum 0,82 Mach speed, which in more understandable terms will be 871 km / h, while the cruising speed is marked at 829 km / h.
The maximum flight range in 5556 km allows you to make Learjet 85 transcontinental flights.
The practical ceiling is 14935 m, which is a fairly high indicator for aircraft of this class.

[Crazyzyear]

Quote: portoc65

This is Putin's fault.

stop doing psaking

[portoc65]

Quote: CrazyBear

Quote: portoc65

This is Putin's fault.

stop doing psaking

Do you believe that in the sky where so much space can 2 planes crash into each other? Is all the propaganda of the Kremlin

[sv68]

half of germany will confirm that the fighter pilot shouted on the air with a slight Putin accent "banzai your madttt"

[Stypor23]

NOT really and the moderator can be fined

[Flyer]

Speaking of the number of German aircraft !!!!
they have more airfields than there are now operating in Russia, and the number of aircraft exceeds ours twice!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Flyer

Speaking of the number of German aircraft !!!!
they have more airfields than there are now operating in Russia, and the number of aircraft exceeds ours twice!

So what ... We are scared and more than once in our history.)))

[portoc65]

Quote: Flyer

Speaking of the number of German aircraft !!!!
they have more airfields than there are now operating in Russia, and the number of aircraft exceeds ours twice!

only German flight crews do not get into the cockpit thanks to German fried sausages and good Bovar beer

[Wedmak]

Of these, more than half are ancient Tornadoes, although modernized. And the Eurofighters make the whole European Union, only pay the money.

[Crazyzyear]

Quote: portoc65

Do you believe that in the sky where so much space can 2 planes crash into each other?

"I will clarify this when I am at my workplace" D. Psaka ©

[portoc65]

The fact that Fritz-death-Russian is funny

[Ptah]

Quote: portoc65

This is Putin's fault

Quote: portoc65

The enemy suffered losses.

Quote: portoc65

Psaki probably say-Donbass terrorists shot down

Quote: portoc65

German flight crews do not get into the cockpit thanks to German fried sausages and good Bovar beer

Quote: portoc65

that Fritz-death-Russian is funny

Raised it up, you already smack BOTH, "smart guy" ...
Do not hide your intellect, reveal it to people ...

[maksim]

and they have little blue sky

[Apollo]

Video in the subject.

[Leshka]

it happens

[Veteran of the Red Army]

Guys, this is an accident when performing assigned tasks and tasks. Do not gloat over the misfortune of others. Killed people who have nothing to do with our problems.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Veteran of the Red Army

Guys, this is an accident when performing assigned tasks and tasks. Do not gloat over the misfortune of others. Killed people who have nothing to do with our problems.

Correctly wrote ..! It's a pity the pilots are good that they did not fall on the village ..

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Veteran of the Red Army

Guys, this is an accident when performing assigned tasks and tasks. Do not gloat over the misfortune of others. Killed people who have nothing to do with our problems.

Correctly wrote ..! It's a pity the pilots are good that they did not fall on the village ..

[GRAY]

"the second is a light-engine Learjet."
Is this the simulator of air targets ...

[Simple]

Quote: GRAY

Is this the simulator of air targets ...

What exactly this board is not reported, but the crashed was a simulator of Learjet aerial targets.


Die Zivilmaschine sei für die Gesellschaft für Flugzieldarstellung (GFD) unterwegs gewesen, heißt es.

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/unfall-flugzeug-nach-zusammenstoss-im-sauerl

and-abgestuerzt-1.2012993

[GRAY]

The chip lying on the pavement is similar to the front of an additional fuel tank.

[Simple]

Quote: GRAY

The chip lying on the pavement is similar to the front of an additional fuel tank.

Gesellschaft für Flugzieldarstellung 12 machines (wiki)

The picture shows 11 machines. It turns out the same board.

[loft79]

Visually and in size, it looks more like part of an engine.

[Simple]

Quote: loft79

Visually and in size, it looks more like part of an engine.

Yes, this is the right-hand engine nacelle and the engine itself.

Communicated now at the German forum: they say that this is not the board.

Some of the 11 aircraft have been repainted.

[Simple]

It was a D-CGFI.

The remains of one pilot identified.

Nobody watched any posrashutov.

http://www.derwesten.de/wr/region/flugzeug-crash-bei-olsberg-img4-zoom-id9509520

.html

Photo no. Xnumx

[Mishut37rf]

Quote: Committee

No, this is "polite" heaven. Saturated with fresh, mountainous Rostov air.

The crew of the "Polite Sky" was thanked ...

[evilrussian]

Quote: portoc65

This is Putin's fault.

Who but he? (sarcasm)

[Sergei75]

Air accident.

[propolsky]

Sorry for the people, the planes still do.

[pvv113]

NATO members master a ram

[smoker]

Quote: portoc65

Where are the psaki incident comments?

I think from Psaki it will be something like this:
"Russia, as part of the exercises taking place in the Kaliningrad region, illegally used an electronic warfare system, which disrupted the normal operation of dispatch equipment on military and civilian frequencies in European countries. As a result, there was a collision ... in Germany and the fall of several peaceful helicopters with humanitarian aid in Ukraine. "

[ksv1973]

At the moment (24.06.2014 - 00.08 Moscow time) I have read all the statements. I want to ask a question to the majority of those who spoke - are you mentally normal people? Killed people who did not harm you in any way. Of course, I am not an angel, but I consider ironic over the victims of the flight accident and over its very fact idiocy !!!

[portoc65]

I answered above, in the hands of the pilots Natto-blood-Yugoslavia, Libya. Our brothers Yugoslavs-these critters bombed peaceful cities. They destroyed the infrastructure. They will be ordered to them tomorrow, they will bomb us, understand - there’s a war. It’s against the Russian world. These the guys are preparing for war with us .. I honestly don’t feel sorry for them after what I saw with my own eyes .. You know what the Yugoslavs told me, exactly what they say in the east of Ukraine, where Russia, they kill us .. for you they are people, you sorry?

[ksv1973]

Quote: portoc65

I answered above, in the hands of the pilots Natto-blood-Yugoslavia, Libya. Our brothers Yugoslavs-these critters bombed peaceful cities. They destroyed the infrastructure. They will be ordered to them tomorrow, they will bomb us, understand - there’s a war. It’s against the Russian world. These the guys are preparing for war with us .. I honestly don’t feel sorry for them after what I saw with my own eyes .. You know what the Yugoslavs told me, exactly what they say in the east of Ukraine, where Russia, they kill us .. for you they are people, you sorry?

I understand your emotions, Portoc65. I agree with your thoughts. NATO has accumulated many questions over the past 50 years.
But in this case, it takes place to be just a private flight accident with people who died in it. I’m sure it wouldn’t have occurred to you to ironic over such a situation if it had happened in Russia.

[portoc65]

Pilots kill by thousands, sometimes by tens of thousands, and conscience doesn’t torment them - understand, they are enemies, they aren’t ours .. not our pilots of the Russian Army. These are the pilots who conduct exercises at our borders, you know what they do at the exercises? I served in aviation they are given flight cards of our territory and they work out like they fly over our territory. We like flying over China when he served, they are the same. They are enemies, they are not sorry. You feel sorry for the Ukrainian pilots who bombard Slavyansk and Kramatorsk .. Lugansk ? probably not. I, too, have these .... no words no pity after what I saw .. Just such a world. They are good only for their own .. During the war, captured pilots and snipers were usually shot, from both sides .. the most dangerous soldiers ..

[ksv1973]

Quote: portoc65

Pilots kill by thousands, sometimes by tens of thousands and they are not tormented by conscience - understand - they are enemies,

This was only twice - in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
And I advise you, who live in Portugal, not to drink strong drinks in volumes that are not comparable with common sense and the rules of spelling and punctuation. Reading your comments is very painful. Moreover, you still could not understand the meaning of what I tried to convey to you. Sorry.

[portoc65]

I'm not sorry, and not when the army pilots will not be sorry for the potential enemy of Russia .. And about literacy in spelling, here you are right. I write illiterate but I write that I feel ..

[not main]

Quote: portoc65

I answered above, in the hands of the pilots Natto-blood-Yugoslavia, Libya. Our brothers Yugoslavs-these critters bombed peaceful cities. They destroyed the infrastructure. They will be ordered to them tomorrow, they will bomb us, understand - there’s a war. It’s against the Russian world. These the guys are preparing for war with us .. I honestly don’t feel sorry for them after what I saw with my own eyes .. You know what the Yugoslavs told me, exactly what they say in the east of Ukraine, where Russia, they kill us .. for you they are people, you sorry?

Twenty years ago they were called "Potential Adversaries." And now just an ENEMY! And the attitude is appropriate!

[portoc65]

as I all remembered, I was already pounding the beginning .. how I hate them .. for the pilots do not care who is at the bottom .. people, women, children, military. Pilots bombers are the most cynical killers .. see what they do in Ukraine .. Yeah...

[silverwolf88]

In the sky, it’s getting closer ... such incidents unfortunately were and will be ... aerobatic and navigation equipment with the functions of analysis and early warning should be developed ...

[Weniamin]

And did not have time to tweet.

[tolmachiev51]

Hand to her !!!!

[Freeway]

Quote: portoc65

Quote: Wedmak

It is curious that on the stele the silhouettes of Mig-23 and Mig-19 (or Saber?) In Germany were Soviet fighters? Or am I wrong?

Looks like a MIG 23 with folded wings and 19 .. very similar

"Tornado", "Typhoon", mig-15 (?) And F-104 "starfighter"

[Freeway]

Quote: Freeway

Quote: portoc65

Quote: Wedmak

It is curious that on the stele the silhouettes of Mig-23 and Mig-19 (or Saber?) In Germany were Soviet fighters? Or am I wrong?

Looks like a MIG 23 with folded wings and 19 .. very similar

"Tornado", "Typhoon", "Saber" (?) And F-104 "starfighter"

[subbtin.725]

Nothing is perfect in this world.

[Pula]

I read the comments and do not understand the authors. Yes - a collision, Yes - the death of a person, but why flirt, why be like "them" (like Psaki - "they are fleeing from Russia to Ukraine, oh, sorry, I got it mixed up). Pride must be kept in check. The Russian Soldier was always different from the rest your sympathy for GORGE, not pity.

[SAHALIN]

Quote: portoc65

This is Putin's fault.

Again, sanctions against RUSSIA will be introduced !!!!!!!!!

[doctor]

Urrraaaa. In NATO began the fall.