President, people are waiting for decisive action from you!

Mr. President, in one of the interviews you said that you would like to see how the army of Ukraine dares to shoot at his people and doubt that this is possible. Turn on the TV, on any channel you will see how the Ukrainian army shoots its people with the help of heavy weapons, artillery and aviation.

You promised to protect the Russian population of Ukraine if blood is shed. The blood of the Russian people is already flowing like water! Is your promise just a declaration? Where is our valiant army? Or is she only able to conduct exercises at the border and saber-gun? Why did you get the consent of the State Duma to use the army outside of Russia? To laugh the whole world? Or to scare the fascists? So they are not afraid of this saber-rattling! And soon the whole world will laugh at us!

Your inaction every day gives the fascists more confidence in their impunity. It is impunity that gives rise to crime and takes the lives of our compatriots every day. The people of the South-East announced the creation of republics and their independence, following the example of the Crimea, Russia is silent ... The republics have created an independent state, Novorossia, and have twice turned to Russia for help and accepting them into Russia, but Russia is again silent - no matter how came out!

You did not even give them diplomatic assistance and support. Little South Ossetia was more manly than GREAT RUSSIA? But you recognized the pseudo-president appointed by the junta! And not even the junta, and Obama! You do whatever you want, but do not render assistance to the New Russia! Afraid that the West would suspect you of helping New Russia? So they unanimously accuse you and Russia already even of intervention! And why should we be afraid now, when we are still accused of something that we did not do?

If we really help our brothers, they will not think of any more, and they will not blame them for big sins. You say the right words, but these are just words! And about the genocide of the people of Novorossia - silent! And the junta with your silence received a blank check on the destruction of our brothers in Novorossia. Your declarations are an empty sound that no one is afraid of.

The junta began to destroy the population with small arms - Russia is silent. So you can continue. The Nazis began to use mortars - Russia is silent. So, you can still continue! They began to use howitzers and helicopters - Russia is silent. Well, you can step up your efforts to destroy the people of New Russia! The Nazis began to apply Tanks, "Grads" and aviation around the cities - Russia is silent again! Is Russia AFRAID ?! MAY NOT BE CIRCULATED WITH HER! Then they used forbidden weapons - phosphorus bombs! Russia AGAIN cowardly silent! SHAME! And now, the Nazis violated OUR border (LIVED!), Encroached on our territory, defeated the embassy, ​​fired upon our land! You can not reckon with Russia! She will continue to silently watch how the Bandera executioners kill Russian people! How fascists smash Russian institutions, arbitrarily grab our frontier land, shell our border guards, ride armored vehicles across our land and insult our leaders all over the world! SHE IS SCARED!!!

They insulted publicly, not Putin, but the president of a world power! They spat in the face of the president and slapped Russia! Well, again, we dawn and cowardly keep silent? Or maybe it's you, Mr. Putin, afraid? Maybe you are a coward? But Russia is not you, Russia is the people, and the people cannot be afraid of executioners! Russia has a great story, great victories and great ancestors! And it is not good for us to fear our enemies, whatever they may be!

Or maybe Russia really is only a regional power?

Adopt a ready-made and prosperous republic of Crimea — calmer and safer! And to support the people of Novorossia fighting for their lives and to support them in the military conditions - for this, courage is necessary! Your courage, Mr. President! The people have given you confidence and empowered! It is in Novorossia that the fate of Russia is being decided. And its fate will depend on the outcome of this battle: to be a war in the land of Russia, or not.

If we help Novorossiya, then she will cope with the junta herself, and the war will not come to our land. If we allow to destroy Novorossia, then in half a year the war will come to our land, and the Crimea will be the first victim! War can not be avoided, and the whole question is where we will have to fight - on our own land or on the land of New Russia! And this question you can solve in just one week! And there will be no more dead women and children!

If you are afraid to defend the people being destroyed officially, then do it just as America and Europe do (which help the junta with their warriors and weapons) - unofficially. Or is it too you can not? Then is it not better to appoint Dmitry Medvedev as supreme commander of the Russian Armed Forces - he is not a seasoned warrior like you, but he is a decisive politician and a truly courageous defender and man! He proved this in 2008 in South Ossetia. In just a few days I solved the whole problem with the Georgian aggressors with low losses and meager costs. And now, every new day of “non-intervention” not only takes tens and hundreds of lives, but also increases the future price that Russia will have to pay for inaction! For your inaction !!! I'm almost 60 years old, but I am ready, if necessary, to take up arms. Announce mobilization, and thousands of people will come to the military registration and enlistment offices and go to protect our brothers! I will come first ...

What are you waiting for and why are you drawing time? Do you want the junta to destroy Novorossia and all its defenders? Their blood will be on your conscience! If you allow the destruction of Novorossia, the Maidan will come to us in Moscow. And the civil war is already burning in Russia! Together with the civil war, external intervention will come ... And then the existence of the Russian state itself will be in question! Time does not work for us !!!

All of Russia is already at a loss: waiting for what its leader will do. When will he start acting and not say the right phrases? And the leader also keeps silent ... This is not even funny. But neither to keep silent, nor to sit behind the Kremlin wall will fail! The war is already at our doorstep!

Where are your conscience and courage, Mr. Putin? Do you sleep well? To sleep, you need to have a clear conscience. And your conscience "defender of the Russian population" is calm?

You have done a lot for our country, this is indisputable. And all the Russian people, quite recently, were proud of their president. But now you disgrace Russia! I'm ashamed for you! You are not interested in me, but there are millions of people like me!

I wish you a clear conscience!

Comments

[Balamyt]

To be honest, I didn't quite understand how we "swallowed" the encroachments on our territory ??? But I hope with all my might that GDP has its own plan in this regard, which will delight us all! (well, someone will grieve incredibly).

[Angro Magno]

Everyone hopes.
And Putin must hope that he has a plan. And then people can be upset.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Angro Magno

Everyone hopes.
And Putin must hope that he has a plan. And then people can be upset.

it is this plan in action. probably the author is unaware that the entire "world community" immediately identified Russia as the aggressor, and now just in shock from "Putin's silence" all templates are torn! and they don't know what to do next, because the truth will come up anyway and the whole world will know about the bombing of civilians, and then the hands will be untied although I myself dream that the link of our "dryers" in bad weather conditions racked up the positions and radars of the Ukrops, and the next day with honest eyes we would declare to the whole world that it was Ukrainian pilots who covered their own by mistake !!! what? Everyone lies...

[demon184]

Who is the world community, the USA and their six or what?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: demon184

Who is the world community, the USA and their six or what?

but there are options ???

[ibnvladimir]

They are the most, well, sixes of sixes ... and sixes of sixes of sixes. After all, there is a desire to fuck worthless American green papers, and few people want to deal with the SIXTH Fleet instead.

[vladsolo56]

The whole world community is in shock, but Putin has a plan, a plan is what they smoke?

[GDP]

And you want and prick ...
On the one hand, the situation for the introduction of troops is not only ripe, but even overripe.
On the other hand, as if his people didn’t start poking in the back with a pitchfork, when the war begins, sanctions, rising prices and falling economies ...

[Rus2012]

Quote: GDP

On the one hand, the situation for the introduction of troops is not only ripe, but even overripe.

Personally, my opinion is that GDP, like Stalin before the 41 year, already seems to be flirting. When it was necessary to knock with his fist, so that the decanter on the Abama’s table fell and split. This is not, it means it will be like then - even more blood and tears ... Only if Russia will survive with friends? Question...

[maxxdesign]

I am amazed how many idiots of strategists divorced! if Stalin had begun to attack first, in fact he would have violated the non-aggression pact, Nazi Germany would have been justified all over the world, despite the fact that she had already occupied half of Europe! and then not only Germany, Japan and Italy fought against the USSR, but also the United States and the British!
go books on the history of the Second World War, at least read, and better than the great Patriotic at first, and then the Second World War. you’ll better understand why Stalin was pulling to the last, and when you start reading about the Second World War, you will find out that there was a military reform in the USSR, which was supposed to end in 1942, and you will learn how Hitler and Stalin divided Poland, the Baltic states, and why The Finns did not want to peacefully sign the accession to the USSR, but began to defend themselves with weapons, where part of our army was killed, besides, fights with Japan were already going on, and Stalin really did not want a third front on the borders of the USSR and Germany.

[Rus2012]

Quote: maxxdesign

if Stalin began to attack first, in fact he would have violated the non-aggression pact

Man, where did you read the sentence "attack first" from?
Read the history and competent proposals that were offered in 41 a year, so as not to get a treacherous catastrophic blow.
At least - not to remove forces from the URs on the old border.

And in general - learn to respect your opponents. I do not

how many idiots

as you put it .. you "-" for the post!

[Snoop]

It is interesting to me to listen to competent proposals in the prewar period from the military. Historians know only one version of the proposal - Zhukov’s preventive strike plan on the accumulations of German troops.

[borad]

Maybe then there would have been 26 million victims? And would the United States and England begin to fight against us after the Nazis seized France, Poland, etc.?

[socrates7]

Dear, are you aware that history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood?

[Shadowcat]

Quote: Rus2012

At least - not to remove forces from the URs on the old border.

* in a snoring voice * Need to build a ziggurat ...
But seriously - in the first place, the "Stalin Line" did not correspond to the time (it was built since 1928 and in 15 years the tanks stepped from riveted tin ... to welded armor. In addition, the Germans, back in WWII, screwed the bunkers as they wanted, and the line Maginot was broken off in a few days.By the way, can you tell us how much our guys needed to open the defense of the Quantum army in the 45th year? The Germans were not fools), secondly, artillery plus assault connections can mix this line with ..., in the third it is expensive to keep deployed troops it is feeding, wages and lack of labor in factories / field. In the minds of the UR for a full retention, a division is needed in addition to the border guards), in the third, read how these URs looked like. (and just figure out our schedule ... sloppiness)

By the way, here Waterman wrote about the Second World War. Look, it was on the topwar. He just described and justified it.

Well, the last. The largest defensive operation (let’s say, where we showed everything that we can and learned, and the Germans showed their new maps) I’ll wash the Battle of Kursk. And then, despite all the lines prepared in advance, the absence of the fact of surprise and the beginning of artillery preparation by us, the Germans on the southern facet almost broke through the defenses.

So, with all due respect, the only way to at least somehow reduce the pressure was to hit first. But it was impossible to do, because otherwise the USSR is an aggressor (look at the British press, for example, from 1920) and poor and unhappy Germany should be helped. Britain would smartly wave an agreement (disagree Churchill would get a massive heart attack incompatible with life. (You know, poisoned yourself. Look, there’s seven knives in the back) and a mustache. Write letters.

http://topwar.ru/31627-strategiya-bet-taktiku-logistika-strategiyu-pochemu-voysk
a-ne-gotovilis-v-1941-m.html

[Rus2012]

Quote: ShadowCat

So, with all due respect, the only way to at least somehow reduce the pressure was to hit first.

As a rule, I do not interfere in the polemic of amateurs ...
The only comment is

"Stalin's line" did not match the time

nevertheless - it was used and quite successfully entering defensive battles. Although almost all the equipment before the start of the Second World War and l / s were withdrawn from there. This is the time.

[Shadowcat]

Quote: Rus2012

nonetheless - it was used and quite successfully entering defensive battles

Considering your statement about amateurism, I can assume that you have not read.

Quote: Rus2012

In terms of intelligence, in the UR, for full retention, we still need a division besides border guards

those. using them as a support, it was possible to hold the defense. Considering that full-fledged battles were already going on at that time, and these SDs were filled not with a dozen border guards who fought, but did not surrender in the boilers, but with more or less equipped units that held the defense based on the SDs of the old border.

Quote: Rus2012

As a rule, I do not interfere in the polemic of amateurs ...

Uguk. Then what are we posting?

[thrower]

Intervening in your argument.

1. Defensive lines were suitable for defense, but blind defense gives a tactical advantage to the enemy, respectively, active defense is needed.
2. The Stalin line was preparing to receive troops, but these were second-tier troops, equipped with personnel as they mobilized.
3. Naturally, the personnel army was advanced to the Molotov Line, since the enemy had to be met at the front lines. Arms and aircraft also went there.
3. No one had any illusions regarding the date of the German offensive; the day and time and forces of the enemy were known.
The army was ready.

And now about the causes of the defeat of the initial period of the Second World War:
1. The Germans were strong, very strong, moreover, it was the strongest army in the world at that time.
2. Direct betrayal of the leadership of the Red Army: General Pavlov, in fact, opened his front to the enemy, the tanks of the Western Front were gathered in one fist and sent incomprehensibly to where, and they did not have fuel in stock, it was a one-way ticket.
The order to bring troops into combat readiness from June 18 of 1941 was not executed. That is why in the same Brest Fortress there were 2 Soviet divisions.

[Omsk]

I dare say that Odessa district was the only one where readiness No. 1 was not canceled, which immediately affected both in the air and on the ground.

[Omsk]

still consider the United States with its help, the victim of aggression. With a preventive strike, this help would go to Germany (I think the size would be different).

[borad]

And one of the main mistakes of Stalin was the fear of provocations and the almost complete absence of combat-ready troops at the borders, despite repeated warnings. This is somewhat reminiscent of our situation.

[Omsk]

not the fear of provocation, but the danger of helping the United States help Germany under the Lend-Lease Act.

[Igor62]

disassemble in personal correspondence. Do not litter the forum.

[scout]

I’m glad that something else is not against the backdrop of such forums that decisions are made in the government) it’s very pleasing! And here, of course, it’s the bored public that it’s talking) It seems like he expressed his position and showed patriotism, who cares that calls for a military invasion of Ukraine are pushing us to war? Then let the management think about it and I will quietly keep silent if something goes wrong!
minus article

[larand]

Quote: Rus2012

Quote: GDP

On the one hand, the situation for the introduction of troops is not only ripe, but even overripe.

Personally, my opinion is that GDP, like Stalin before the 41 year, already seems to be flirting. When it was necessary to knock with his fist, so that the decanter on the Abama’s table fell and split. This is not, it means it will be like then - even more blood and tears ... Only if Russia will survive with friends? Question...

No, okay, it’s difficult to introduce troops, but to tell the people something about how the president sees the situation, at least to comment on the events, to calm him down, saying that his hand is on the pulse. Well, at least something to explain about the position of the Russian Federation. Is that too complicated? After all, when we voted for the president in 2012, we did not elect him to God’s election, but hired him as president, so I would like to understand what’s next, what to be prepared for?

[Mriya]

But he is silent in front of his people, he consults with Obama and Merkel holds ... but the people have nothing to say. And what friends, we all betrayed, who respects us, ...? This is called a low blow, what should the militias feel right now? Betrayal and cowardice are no other words. Thousands of lives do not count, money is the measure of life, and then they will talk about double standards, some need to look at themselves.

[leon7591]

Mriya is right, namely betrayal and cowardice! And this can only be understood by one who knows WHAT it is! ... we already get this contempt! Gentlemen officers! Say your word!

[leon7591]

Mriya is right, namely betrayal and cowardice! And this can only be understood by one who knows WHAT it is! ... we already get this contempt! Gentlemen officers! Say your word!

[borad]

Obviously, Putin is a coward! So far, he had the courage to take only what itself fell into his hands. Crimea. And more than that, he lacks courage. Can someone give a reverse example? And remember his behavior during the death of Kursk. His almost weekly silence was almost like with Stalin, but then Stalin came to his senses and got down to business! What is here? After all, it is obvious that the boat was attacked (see photos of those years) but nothing. In general, everything is clear. Putin has no plan. There is only excessive caution, bordering on cowardice, I am afraid that nothing will remain of Putin for the next election, and this is his last term, if he reaches out.

[tchack]

You, ****, are standing with a machine gun at the border, are you serving in the army ??? Who are you thinking about when you wrote ??? Who are you to control the lives and destinies of other people ??? If a direct clash begins, how many people will crawl, how many mothers will not see their sons. You will continue to write comments ...

[Mriya]

and you, apparently, are sitting in the trenches ??? no, of course, you have to betray your own people, and these thousands of destinies do not count ?! We are constantly inferior since the 90s, you can, of course, move, and keep the people, so to speak amers, what they want, and sit quietly .... "patriot" was found, but for normal speech there is not enough brains, just scream obscenities?

[Mriya]

absolutely true.

[leon7591]

As far as I know, at the expense of "Kursk" we have written off debts under the IMF ...

[leon7591]

As far as I know, at the expense of "Kursk" we have written off debts under the IMF ...

[Luzhichanin]

Quote: Rus2012

Personally, my opinion is that GDP, like Stalin before 41, seems to be playing too much.

both of them fulfill the plan and act at their discretion only within the boundaries allotted to them. the campaign near Stalin's borders were wider.

[77bob1973]

You minuscule is a bad world, better than a good war. And if there is at least the slightest opportunity to agree, it is necessary to negotiate!

[ibnvladimir]

Einstein was once asked:
- What can you say about the third world war. Will not be what it can be?
- I can’t say anything about the third world war, but I can say something about the fourth.
-- What?
- There will be no one to fight in it.

[Russ69]

Quote: GDP

On the other hand, as if his people didn’t start poking in the back with a pitchfork, when the war begins, sanctions, rising prices and falling economies ...

If Russia is now scared of sanctions, then they will constantly frighten us on any issue. So will we forever concede?

[Mriya]

and are we advancing somewhere ???

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: vladsolo56

The whole world community is in shock, but Putin has a plan, a plan is what they smoke?

in Central Asia, yes! and here it’s what they’re thinking about.

[Dmitry Toderes]

That totally agree with you! You cannot use Iskander - dill do not have such missiles - they will immediately understand whose technique. But they are bombing with "dryers". But I saw in one report on the southeast of Ukraine - someone destroyed the Ukrainian air defense base! There is almost no radar station left for the dill. Strikes must be delivered at air force bases and enemy tanks, at units of the National Guard - at everything that is capable of moving and shooting at the cities of the SE.

[leon7591]

In fact of the matter! The Ukrainians mistakenly gouged out their radar station, then they themselves recognized this! And our aviation, which has electronic warfare equipment on board - they can easily pass there both through bases and artillery, and through ukrov tanks and no one will see them! And this, too, could be attributed to the mistakes of ukraviation or the attack of the militias! To strike our aircraft do not even have to go into sight! In other words, it can shoot over the territory of the Rostov steppes, and hit the dill artillery and tanks in Slavyansk!

[leon7591]

In fact of the matter! The Ukrainians mistakenly gouged out their radar station, then they themselves recognized this! And our aviation, which has electronic warfare equipment on board - they can easily pass there both through bases and artillery, and through ukrov tanks and no one will see them! And this, too, could be attributed to the mistakes of ukraviation or the attack of the militias! To strike our aircraft do not even have to go into sight! In other words, it can shoot over the territory of the Rostov steppes, and hit the dill artillery and tanks in Slavyansk!

[Rus2012]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

the whole "world community"

Let's start in order:
1. T.N. the whole "world community" - There is nothing but the United States and their vassals. And no more!
2. For the Russian Federation - many (very many) countries of "non-Western democracy". Many simply do not dare to express their opinion. Part of them look at what it will result in and how it will end.
3. As for the sanctions - no matter how our leadership is underpinned - they will be. The task of the 3,14ndos is to send off the Russian Federation from 400mrd. turnover with the EU. This is clear to the fool ...

For the time being, we are following the borders outlined by the State Department - support for the peace initiatives of PoroSenka-Abama. Refuse - sanctions ... Moreover, it broadcasts urkabandera, with promptering syshya. We can’t express our definition of what is happening in Ukraine!
They say the secret plan ... the secret plan ... But is it there? There are strong doubts ...
While we see only blood, tears and destruction ...

[leon7591]

Totally agree!

[leon7591]

Totally agree!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Rus2012

1. T. n. the entire "world community" is nothing more than the United States and their vassals. And no more!

I didn’t mean anything else! You probably didn’t see quotes for the weakness of vision, so there they are!

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Quote: Angro Magno

Everyone hopes.
And Putin must hope that he has a plan. And then people can be upset.

it is this plan in action. probably the author is unaware that the entire "world community" immediately identified Russia as the aggressor, and now just in shock from "Putin's silence" all templates are torn! <...>

+1
For the opening remarks.

Zadolbali tantrums provocateurs! It seems that half of the male population of Russia began menstruation and continues for the third month. Especially smiling is the fact that every gopher thinks it is an agronomist and considers it necessary to give advice to a person who has worked for many years in the FSB and has not been in the presidential chair for a long time (and worked as prime minister).

"Semyon Semyonich .." Well, how much can you? After all, all these Novodvorskys and Navalny are just waiting for the lovers of specific actions (Putin-military forces) to rock the boat. But for some reason they don't realize that the country will immediately slide into the roaring 90s. Got drunk on TV ...

[242339]

Very emotional, and very accurate. One gets the impression that the author of the article lacks a thrill.

[uhu189]

In vain you are so disrespectful to people. No one imagines himself either an agronomist or a strategist. It’s just that time is running out, more and more people are dying, Ukraine is more and more aggressive, the situation is getting worse and I would like to understand how the country's leadership plans to get out of the increasingly worsening situation. The fact that people do not care does not mean that they are hysterical and can be offended so high. If you have an understanding of what is happening - can share? And if not, can you refrain from such harsh comments?

[socrates7]

Time of war, fasten. Even if you conduct a survey here on the site regarding the deployment of troops, you will see the vast majority of opponents entering. But for some reason they do not tear the shirt on their chest in front of those who call for the introduction of troops, do not insult them, do not advise the President. Therefore, the author of the article clearly went too far in relation to the President. Do not forget to mention Deshchitsu, he sank to his level.

[Mriya]

Your anatomical knowledge in the female body is amazed .... But you probably have a climax (following your logic) - it happens that I advise you to drink valerian and be less nervous and spit up with saliva, otherwise the provocateurs already seem ...

[leon7591]

Let the patterns break, but not mines and phosphorus bombs! Our equipment is at such a level that, if desired, it can blind all Ukrainian equipment, from radar, to aviation and artillery, without blinding with electronic warfare equipment !!! And our dryers, if desired, can iron all their equipment without being noticed by any radars! And in order to transfer Ukrainian equipment remaining in the Crimea by the militia, this is not a problem at all! But for this you need an indication from above! And today, according to the media, volunteers came from there, but 4 tanks and several a / cars against ukrarmia and hundreds of tanks - this is such a minuscule!

[leon7591]

Let the patterns break, but not mines and phosphorus bombs! Our equipment is at such a level that, if desired, it can blind all Ukrainian equipment, from radar, to aviation and artillery, without blinding with electronic warfare equipment !!! And our dryers, if desired, can iron all their equipment without being noticed by any radars! And in order to transfer Ukrainian equipment remaining in the Crimea by the militia, this is not a problem at all! But for this you need an indication from above! And today, according to the media, volunteers came from there, but 4 tanks and several a / cars against ukrarmia and hundreds of tanks - this is such a minuscule!

[Tora1911]

Even if we assume that Putin does not have a plan, which I doubt .... The people were upset, overthrew Putin, a civil war similar to Ukraine started, then the interstate war ... what next? Let's live happily in the coming 100 years? But the people were upset very successfully and buried the future of their children.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Tora1911

Even if we assume that Putin does not have a plan, which I doubt .... The people were upset, overthrew Putin, a civil war similar to Ukraine started, then the interstate war ... what next? Let's live happily in the coming 100 years? But the people were upset very successfully and buried the future of their children.

+100500

[leon7591]

There may be a plan, but what? Wait until Novorossia is burned out with phosphorus bombs and a burnt field remains, as Tymoshenko suggested ?! And hope that ABOS will carry on us SO BIG and IMPORTANT no one dares to encroach on us? And it doesn't matter that in Ukraine the Nazis will destroy hundreds and thousands of women and children, and millions of citizens will be driven into concentration camps ?! That the sick die without medication, and the elderly die of hunger ?! To sit quietly? This is also an option, but just sit out NOT P-O-L-U-H-I-T-S-Z !!! Or maybe, as the clever man here said, HIS PLAN TO LOOK UKROV TO Moscow AND TURN OFF THE LIGHT, GAS, HEAT, LET'S FREEZE AS THE FRENCH IN 1812? Maybe I don’t know much, but life has taught me to evaluate people BY THEIR BUSINESS !!! But not according to their words! And even our Lord commanded his disciples that "you will recognize every tree by its fruit"! So draw your own conclusions, gentlemen, "whatever happens"!

[Tambov Wolf]

Why overthrow. Let’s choose the same Igor Strelkov when voting for the new president. He’s not a bargainer, a combatant, a competent military man (which is now worth its weight in gold, not an oligarch and his comrades, he is a supporter of the restoration of the Empire, not a liberal, patriot in in its pure form (not Gref and Miller, fighting for an idea, not for a pipe (gas), and a lot of good things. What is not the president? I think it’s even very good. Yes, and there will be order, remember how it treats looters. So, that even very, very.

[leon7591]

Interesting idea! Why not, if our present does not live up to public confidence! For this, there are elections so that the people can choose the most worthy and entrust them with the government ...

[Siberian]

And you turn this slogan over and it will turn out quite well "People! Putin expects from you the declared decisiveness!"

[Orik]

Quote: Angro Magno

Everyone hopes.
And Putin must hope that he has a plan. And then people can be upset.

Well said , and here are the words of the Russian militia who participated in the battle near Yampol, at the last speech of our president.
To the speech of Allah Vladimirovich

Jun. 22nd, 2014 at 6: 16 PM

I am personally not disappointed, honestly. I have known for a long time that Putin is scum. But for the local guys going to the tanks with Kalash, just not to be "an integral part of Ukraine", and at the same time childishly naively believing that "Russia will not quit" is a shame.

[yulka2980]

We don’t need to quote a person insulting our president! If the Russian Federation did not support the militias, they would not have lasted even a week! Think about it at your leisure!

[Orik]

Quote: yulka2980

We don’t need to quote a person insulting our president! If the Russian Federation did not support the militias, they would not have lasted even a week! Think about it at your leisure!

Indicate to your wife, if it allows , but I don’t need, they set a minus and ... are free.
Another quote, El Murid:
I know where the weapons and ammunition came from in Slavyansk. Why and I can confidently talk about the lack of help. In addition, the city has been blockaded for a month. To bring a truck there with the help is a feat. How do you imagine an uninterrupted supply of ammunition?

[smile]

Orik
Did your husband allow you to throw tantrums here? :))) He also put on blinders on you, forbidding you to think? Or is he your henpecked? :)))
Yes, by the way, you can be calm - Julia, most likely, will not answer you, it is unlikely that she will respond to scandalous ... girls in her habits. :))) The minus will slap you - and .... are free. You are not worthy of more attention from smart women. :)))

[Orik]

A man who constantly laughs.
I understand that you have a lot of experience in tantrums, laugh after almost every phrase. But with the orientation of the problem, if you can think that a man may have a husband, although this explains your hysteria.

[smile]

Orik
You thought that the girl has a wife ... accordingly, I concluded that what kind of man you are and what your orientation is - you never pulled your tongue.
By the way, we have different ideas about what a hysteria is - I believe that a hysteria is an angry cry that everything was lost, we were betrayed, in the complete absence of the ability to calmly, without emotions, evaluate the situation - this is the behavior you demonstrate here . Yes, it makes me a mocking smile. Forgive me, I can’t take seriously the click who are leading to any kind of demagogy and never, I repeat, never admit that yesterday’s screams were unfounded. :))) Here I am such a cheerful, bad person. :)))

[Orik]

Everything is very simple, I did not even think that the girl wrote the post, and then this is your erotic fantasies. Who, what hurts ...
We are really very different people, it is not surprising that you confuse composure and narrow-mindedness, which is forced to focus on mass propaganda, and ascribe to others your own qualities, thereby demonstrating a whole bunch of psychological defense mechanisms.

[smile]

Orik
Come on, until those like you start waving these "bouquets", I do not mention them. But if you really want to think that I am unreasonable and notorious - for God's sake, consider your health - it doesn't matter :))) I'm definitely not going to argue with you about this - just talk to your health.
But I clearly know that populist and demagogic calls without trying to comprehend the consequences of their implementation - well, what you do is not a sign of a calm assessment of the situation. Seems to be. you are not able to force yourself to calmly and impartially consider and critically comprehend even your own rubbish. This fact clearly speaks of this. that your angry cries about the lost polymers were heard quite often for any reason - but when it turned out that your emotional estimates and predictions turned out to be false, you NEVER admitted that the cries were unfounded and you were led to someone else's demagoguery. You did not then issue equally deafening cries of repentance. :))) Never. This is a diagnosis that you yourself have made.
Goodbye.

[Orik]

Give at least one example in support of the verbal diarrhea that is poured out above, what kind of "lost polymers" are we talking about. Like the time of the spring exacerbation has passed?
As for emotions, watch your own, they just tear you apart.

[smile]

Orik
Wah. :))) You don’t remember how often you said that Putin leaked everything and ruined everything? Maiden memory? :))) Dig yourself in your own (well, you understand what) - I do not intend. I have enough of my memory. And I’m not going to prove anything to you now - laziness. :)))
But if you need it this way - I admit you to be the most honest, consistent and objective .... but I’m not good. Are you satisfied? :)))
The same thing about my emotions - I am. Yeah. For example, now I can’t get a grin off my face - your attempts are quite funny. :)))

[Orik]

Well, that’s all proved that you are a liar and yap.

[socrates7]

Wow, what a Svidomo. And we thought it a sinful thing that they were from there.

[Orik]

Quote: sokrat7

Wow, what a Svidomo. And we thought it a sinful thing that they were from there.

Literate, learn the Russian language from here written together there is no word there, but Svidomo (from Polish) conscious. Yes, I am a conscious Russian and I live by my own mind, and not by state propaganda and cliches, which I also wish for you.

[socrates7]

Even his participation in hostilities does not give him the right to insult the President in this way.

[Cherdak]

Quote: Angro Magno

And then people can be upset.

Quote: 1

Russia is silent

Quote: 2

to appoint Dmitry Medvedev as the supreme commander of the Russian Armed Forces - he is not such a seasoned warrior as you, but he is a determined politician and a really courageous defender and man!

Quote: 3

They spat in the face of the president and slapped Russia!

How much expression! And the author clearly considers himself the avatar of Leon-killer. He is ready to defend the honor of Russia and the conscience of Putin until the last Russian Ukraine. Just a superman, the first of equal in white pants.

And the pathos is so rushing: "I am ashamed of you! You have become not interesting to me, but there are millions of people like me!"

Full feeling that every pimple begins to imagine itself as a volcano

[leon7591]

Attic, obviously about an acne - are you talking about yourself ?! I didn’t imagine myself as anyone, unlike you, who took the right to give assessments to people you don’t know, I am a simple Russian citizen and expressed my opinion not only of mine, but of many millions of Russians who are now at a loss. More recently, the whole country heard Putin’s words that we won’t leave ours, that we wouldn’t let Russians be destroyed, that if blood was shed, Russia would protect its compatriots! But after all, the words of politicians of this level should be supported by deeds! In the meantime, apart from declarations and saber rattling, nothing is visible or heard! You are either a traitor, who is now divorced among national liberals, or a dill Cossack sent to you, if you are satisfied with the inaction of Russia and, if you do not care, when the blood of our brothers is pouring! Well, yes, this has not yet affected you! Or it’s already paid! :)

[Cherdak]

Quote: leon7591

expressed an opinion not only of his own, but also of many millions of Russians

Megalomania; scientific delirium of greatness; megalomania (from the Greek. μεγαλο - very large, or exaggerated and Greek. μανία - passion, madness) - type of self-awareness and personality behavior, expressed in the extreme degree of reassessment of its importance, fame ...

I can’t even comment on the rest - this:

Paranoia (dr. Greek παράνοια, literally - "thinking") - a type of thinking disorder, a strangeness that occurs with a number of mental illnesses and brain damage.

Just repeat, if you have not fully understood:

the cap should be according to Senka and you shouldn’t splatter the monitor so nervously - this world order will not move one iota

[leon7591]

Attic, obviously about an acne - are you talking about yourself ?! I didn’t imagine myself as anyone, unlike you, who took the right to give assessments to people you don’t know, I am a simple Russian citizen and expressed my opinion not only of mine, but of many millions of Russians who are now at a loss. More recently, the whole country heard Putin’s words that we won’t leave ours, that we wouldn’t let Russians be destroyed, that if blood was shed, Russia would protect its compatriots! But after all, the words of politicians of this level should be supported by deeds! In the meantime, apart from declarations and saber rattling, nothing is visible or heard! You are either a traitor, who is now divorced among national liberals, or a dill Cossack sent to you, if you are satisfied with the inaction of Russia and, if you do not care, when the blood of our brothers is pouring! Well, yes, this has not yet affected you! Or it’s already paid! :)

[Mriya]

and the last is you about yourself, I agree.

[skullcap]

Quote: Angro Magno

Putin needs to hope that he has a plan

From http://www.imperiya.by/news.html?id=137587
If anyone has not yet understood Ukraine is not the goal of the United States, but a "means". A tool that, after reaching the goal, will be unequivocally scrapped.

The goal is definitely Russia. Moreover, the scenario for the destruction of Russia has already been written and is awaiting "initial conditions." To bring it down will be analogous to the Maidan. But the Maidan needs an idea. There are two workers so far.

1. "Putinslil". This idea will become a working one ... if the junta crushes the uprising, then the Russian fascists (and the "all-out") will raise the banner of the fight against the hated regime. Then I think everything is clear.

2. "Putin etched". This option will become operational if troops are deployed. Moreover, it is clear that the deployment of troops only to Donbass does not make sense. Even if one village remains on the border with Poland ... It will also have to be occupied. And this is a guerrilla war. For years. Moreover, the West will immediately find money and weapons and ... troops for this option. No, not your own. They are not. Russia will be an idiot in this case. The troops of the "liberators" will be hastily transferred from Syria, Iraq ... in Russia after a while (necessary for the realization of the idea of ​​"putinvtravil") there will be another Maidan. Russofascists remain in reserve. And the striking force will be clever people who will attack: "I warned you" (and 99% of them will consist of today's "Putin send troops"). Well, then I think too clearly.
All the "zaslantsy" (I was not mistaken it was zaslanets, from the word "sent") who now stand for "putinslil" and "putin send troops" are essentially the vanguard of forces preparing to destroy Russia and the remnants of Slavic civilization. Both of these options are initially losing in any scenario. Therefore, especially for you - you WILL NOT. There will be a third option, for which you have no "skirmishers" (vanguard of the revolution) plan.

[Alexander I]

It could only write.

[Mriya]

no, most likely you got out of the "swamp" and substitute someone. We need to read and think more carefully, if, of course, it works out - no one advocates the introduction of troops, but everyone is FOR arms support and, of course, humanitarian support. And this is not, despite the calls of the population, experts, and politicians ... , apparently, like to be spat upon, with your head in the sand, I dare to assure you, you are such a minority.

[skullcap]

Quote: Angro Magno

Putin needs to hope that he has a plan

A good answer to the author of the article at http://www.imperiya.by/news.html?id=137587
It's called: "Dedicated to provocateurs, like El-Murid"

[thrower]

Stop panicking.
The fact that the President has an action plan is beyond doubt, for example, recognition by the Ossetia of the DPR. This makes it possible to introduce volunteers semi-legally and arm the republics.
But in the DNI and LC, what is going on?
They could not even agree on the creation of a single state - New Russia !!! The Armed Forces of the DPR and LPR are not acting under a single command.
Who is there to recognize now?
Before recognition comes, New Russia should become a single state, must form its own government, at least power and diplomatic.
Instead, the leaders of the two republics constantly appear on our TV. They have no more important matters than going to the transfer to Solovyov?
And Russia helped and will help! And, I hope that if the cease-fire is really a cease-fire, then in the DPR and LPR these issues will be dealt with.
And in Russia so far, it would not hurt to clean up its "fifth column".

[shibi]

The GDP has a specific plan - not to respond to the provocations of the junta and its "mouthpieces" demanding to send Russian troops to Ukraine.
Our guys should not die in THEIR war.
What will you say when the coffins of our soldiers go to Russia?
Will Putin be guilty again?
Why should our children give their lives for someone else?
You do not have enough Afghan?

[zzz]

Quote: sibi

Our guys should not die in THEIR war.

OUR guys are already dying there, and this war is not THEIR, but against US! And THEY are now at the forefront of US, the first to take fire on themselves. They ask after all to help not with people, but with weapons.

[pascal309]

OUR guys are already dying there, and this war is not THEIR, but against US! And THEY are now at the forefront of US, the first to take fire on themselves. They ask after all to help not with people, but with weapons. [/ Quote]
I agree!! Militias ask for weapons, medicine, food, equipment !! They have already recruited about 5 thousand soldiers, and there is nothing to fight with. At the block posts they stand with hunting rifles, against the heavy equipment of ukrov. Some here on the forum are trying to prove or believe in the ingenious chess game of GDP. But it is already stated in the articles that Putin is acting on the basis of the situation, there is NO PLAN !!!

[lelyk72]

Yes, according to circumstances - out, "without a plan", "according to circumstances", Crimea chopped off. Very well in the end it turned out ...

[Giant thought]

This is the US war against Russia at the hands of Ukrainian fascists, who consider Russia their main enemy, and the destruction of Russia as a state, is considered their main task. This war is still going on in Ukraine. But, if the Russian leadership will behave as cowardly as it behaves now, then the war will go on already in our territory. Conclusion: it is time to move on to decisive action, this is not necessarily a direct military intervention in the conflict in Ukraine, there are plenty of options.

[leon7591]

Giant of thoughts, totally agree with you! But, unfortunately, not everyone has such sanity ...

[g1v2]

The war of the 21st century is not a war of the 20th century or even a cold war. GDP is trying to make our country a superpower again. In the 90s, it dropped to the level of the countries of the 3rd world, he raised it to 6 of the world's economy in 15 years. The goal is to become, on a par with the United States and China, one of the superpowers - a country that orders the tune, and does not dance to it, like the EU. The sharp increase in economy and power is obvious. It is stupid to put the fate of the country on the line for the sake of Donbass, but this does not mean at all that we are giving up the struggle. It's like in poker - everyone is sitting and wondering what cards the opponent has and whether he is bluffing. So far, VVP has rarely done something predictable and I'm purely interested in what will happen next. Voices screaming about the fact that we will not be respected, well, it's like in "back to the future" - no one dares to call me a coward. Personally, I was never afraid of a fight, but I don't buy too much. If 5 hulks tell me - let's go to the alley, we'll figure it out, I'll send them in the forest, and I don't mind fighting and stretching. We must look at the forces realistically and try to change the ratio in our direction. Now in dill, the majority yells that the Russian Federation is to blame for everything, but hunger is not an aunt, and the Americans are ready to help them with weapons against the Russian Federation, but they will not feed millions of parasites. In the war of the 21st century, there is a large arsenal of means, and not only with a saber for tanks. The first checkpoints will be in the fall and here it will be possible to compare with the spring and evaluate the effectiveness of our actions. And yes, I forgot to clarify, the fact that I am with both hands for GDP does not mean that it cannot lose the battle, but in a long war there are victories and defeats, and most importantly, the final result.

[woron333444]

By the fall, our children will give their lives for their own. And South Ossetia, whose lives were they giving there? We are waiting for South Ossetia to repeat only in Ukraine. They shoot at our territory, planes enter a U-turn from our territory, BMP almost reached our village, if it had not died out, and we are all wiping ourselves

[Russ69]

Quote: sibi

The GDP has a specific plan - not to respond to the provocations of the junta and its "mouthpieces" demanding to send Russian troops to Ukraine.

Why immediately troops? Weapons can be given in the right amount.
And if, you are the president, then answer for your words ...

[demon184]

Why send an army? enough point strikes.

[scout]

Are you out of your mind? point strikes on the territory of a sovereign state? Think about who drives such thoughts into your head? GDP plays the game correctly, the maximum that you can squeeze out the world you need to squeeze !!! And for all other cases there are peacekeepers and the army ...
Do not succumb to provocations like Putinslill!

[leon7591]

Point strikes can be carried out without advertising and no one will guess, at the current level of technology! But this is not so important, because Ukrainian fascists are already in the territory of another state, which they attacked! This is not Ukraine, but Novorossia! And the blows will be regarded as helping the neighboring state! And for this it was necessary to TOTAL RECOGNIZE NEWS RUSSIA to our President! For this, no one would have shot him or hung him! And the people would support him! But even this is also not necessary, it is enough to give the militias EVEN OUR OLD WEAPON SYSTEMS! There are enough soldiers who can cope with it and then the Nazis will run to Poland itself! AND EVERYTHING! More is not required from Russia!

[thrower]

Do you think that the planes and punitive helicopters themselves fall, or they are shot down from the three-ruler?

[leon7591]

If you have an idea of ​​the army (but most likely you are far from it), then you should know that modern MANPADS are capable of getting even supersonic vehicles, and not that slow-moving ones like attack aircraft and helicopters! And it was not Russia that delivered these MANPADS to them, otherwise the sky would have been tightly closed for a long time, and the militia had captured them in military depots and military units! The whole press of the galleda was talking about this! And they bought something from the dill themselves! They also wrote about the warehouse with MANPADS before the separation of the Donbass, where the pravoseki and Bandera themselves seized these systems. So they sold the militia something from that arsenal! And judging by the number of downed cars (several helicopters and planes), then this is a minuscule, which is not even worth talking about! If ours supplied the militia with these systems, then not a single Ukropov plane and helicopter could bomb and shoot cities with impunity! The trouble is that there are only a few such systems !!!

[thrower]

That is, a third of the military aircraft of the punitive is a minuscule?
And MANPADS punitive pilots themselves sold?

At the moment, the weapons and equipment of the Opochnits should have the Ukrainian marking. So here PS doesn’t sell weapons, which they kill, and the warehouses of the Crimea are gutted.
And now Russian weapons will come from Ossetia.

[leon7591]

Thrower, believe me 10 units of aircraft - this is not a third of their aviation! This is a fairy tale for fools! If not all equipment has been assembled in the Donbass, and some of this equipment is being preserved, then building up an aviation group is a matter of time! But they bomb with the same activity! In general, I would very much like to believe you, your words, but to God’s ears, but the facts so far indicate the opposite! ...Unfortunately!

[thrower]

For June 19 - (-) - 67 (Krasny Liman) + 40 (Slavyansk) = 107 banderlogs (Slavyansk - 1 T-64 tank, in the Yampol area - another 1 BMP + 2 BTR + 4 BMD, min. -th brigade; 20- injured; 24 attack aircraft Su-20; 1 killed and 25 fighters of the 12 Dnepropetrovsk Airborne Forces of the Armed Forces; 25 AFU from Lviv were killed)

For June 18 - (-) - 45 (Metalist) +11 (Happiness) + 3 + 3 = 62 Banderlog (special operation Slavyansk - 3 National Guard - killed + 3-5 more people - wounded or killed during an attack on an APC; p. Happiness - yesterday - 3 killed and 8 wounded; "cauldron" between Metallist and Happiness - 15 APUs were killed, 8 - prisoners, the fate of another 13 is unknown; 9 - wounded; LPR managed to capture 7 armored personnel carriers, 1 infantry fighting vehicles, 1 BMD and 2 medium tanks .)

June 17 - (-) - 71 (Luhansk Airport) + 4 (DPR) +9 (Snezhnoe) +144 (Metallist) +2 (BMP losses on the territory of the Russian Federation) + 49 (Alekseevsky) = 279 banderlog (+ unchecked - 73) (another 1 Su-25 was shot down over Gorlovka; near the town of Alekseevsky (DPR) 20 APU and 11 border guards were wounded, 4 National Guard + 10 APU were wounded; 1 killed +3 wounded - in an armored personnel carrier, 3 cars; in fact "arrival" of the enemy BMP on the territory of the Russian Federation - as it turned out - 2 bandernlog were killed; Snezhnoe (DPR) 79 AMB - 4 armored personnel carriers were knocked out, by interception - 9 - "300" at least; to Snizhne - 1 BMP (monument) was captured and left - DPR; Luhansk airport - 71 (120) killed; Metalist (LPR): according to Bolotov - 3 armored personnel carriers (of which -1 BMD) - captured, 3 T-64 tanks - burned, 1 T-64 tank - captured (for sure) , destroyed an artillery gun, 8 prisoners, 4 killed, 12 wounded; according to other sources - clarified by Bolotov:, they took 12 prisoners, 100 (51) dead, 32 wounded; unchecked - 1 BMP and 5 armored personnel carriers - captured, 5 T tanks -64 and 2 armored personnel carriers - burned)

For June 16 - (-) - 50 (Lisichansk) +40 (Luhansk) = 90 banderlog (Slavyansk - 1 armored personnel carrier and 4 cars; Alexey Mozgovoy's detachment north of Lisichansk - 3 armored personnel carriers and over 30 "national guards" were destroyed. wounded; shot down over Horlivka - 1 Su-25 (to be tested); shot down over Luhansk - 1 Su-25 (to be checked); Luhansk (Shchastye) - 40 killed, destroyed 2 mortar batteries and a 120-mm artillery gun (or howitzer D 30, or 2B16 "Nona-K"))

Total: Updated Banderlog Losses - as of 20-06-2014. Killed and wounded, prisoners: min. 1882 people

(May God give good health to the person who spent this titanic work, I was going and throwing everything. I knew that DOHRELION, and then ALMOST EVERYTHING has been calculated)

Hello to the people of Kiev!

Maybe you’ll think about it? La la la

From here: http://shrek1.livejournal.com/451369.html

[leon7591]

Thrower, all this information is good news if it is true! But even they do not testify to "state aid to Russia"! I admit that some kind of help is provided, with modern intelligence systems, it immediately becomes public, as was the case with four tanks and 10 Kamaz trucks from the Crimea. But this is minuscule! Russia could organize more massive aid to the militias, then they certainly have already at least liberated the whole of Novorossia! And then they already were near Kiev! And about the success of the militia, do not forget that there are many former military of the Soviet school, as well as "Afghans" and even participants in the Chechen war! And now there are even many regular military men and soldiers of the "Berkut"! You do not think that these are inept and inexperienced warriors! But the most important thing is motivation! During the Second World War, it was the regiments of the militia that stood to death! Even when the cadre units were retreating! And who is fighting for Banderlog? - Natsiks, these are not warriors, they are trained assassins, they are able to shoot only in the back. Conscripts who do not want to fight the people and who have PS firing squads behind them! With which conscripts often have internal battles. Contractors and "partisans" who were called up for 10 days. Who sleep and see when they can hit the road home or quit as soon as possible! Of these guys, of whom they made cannon fodder, it's a pity, no less than the militia! It is not a pity for the Nazis and other natsgads, the sooner they destroy, the better, these are nonhumans who kill even their own! But people are still dying on both sides! It is PEOPLE!

[leon7591]

Thrower, believe me 10 units of aircraft - this is not a third of their aviation! This is a fairy tale for fools! If not all equipment has been assembled in the Donbass, and some of this equipment is being preserved, then building up an aviation group is a matter of time! But they bomb with the same activity! In general, I would very much like to believe you, your words, but to God’s ears, but the facts so far indicate the opposite! ...Unfortunately!

[thrower]

and add also from Shrek1:

Before today, to the delight of the Svidomites, start shouting about "Putinvsehsdal", remember what your respected Strelok recently said about Putin, the war and the Supreme;)))

Yes, most likely, today Putin will submit to the Federation Council a proposal to revoke permission to use troops in Ukraine.
Today our troops are not there, the loss of dill ....

Already contributed:
In connection with the beginning of trilateral negotiations on this issue (settlement of the situation in the eastern regions of Ukraine), the head of state submitted to the Federation Council a proposal to cancel the resolution of the Federation Council dated March 1, 2014 No. 48-FZ on the use of the RF Armed Forces on the territory of Ukraine "

For a very xxxx. I myself am. I belong to the "Party of War".
Remind me the permission number that was 08.08.08?
How many tanks are the DNR now who knows?
How did the dill convoy die when passing near the border of the Russian Federation, after a customs officer was wounded? (I'm shell-shocked, I can talk nonsense)

They do not threaten with papers, they inspire us with actions!

Tomorrow this permission will be withdrawn, what will change? Even the teachings will not stop.

From here: http://shrek1.livejournal.com/474803.html

[leon7591]

If you have an idea of ​​the army (but most likely you are far from it), then you should know that modern MANPADS are capable of getting even supersonic vehicles, and not that slow-moving ones like attack aircraft and helicopters! And it was not Russia that delivered these MANPADS to them, otherwise the sky would have been tightly closed for a long time, and the militia had captured them in military depots and military units! The whole press of the galleda was talking about this! And they bought something from the dill themselves! They also wrote about the warehouse with MANPADS before the separation of the Donbass, where the pravoseki and Bandera themselves seized these systems. So they sold the militia something from that arsenal! And judging by the number of downed cars (several helicopters and planes), then this is a minuscule, which is not even worth talking about! If ours supplied the militia with these systems, then not a single Ukropov plane and helicopter could bomb and shoot cities with impunity! The trouble is that there are only a few such systems !!!

[leon7591]

Point strikes can be carried out without advertising and no one will guess, at the current level of technology! But this is not so important, because Ukrainian fascists are already in the territory of another state, which they attacked! This is not Ukraine, but Novorossia! And the blows will be regarded as helping the neighboring state! And for this it was necessary to TOTAL RECOGNIZE NEWS RUSSIA to our President! For this, no one would have shot him or hung him! And the people would support him! But even this is also not necessary, it is enough to give the militias EVEN OUR OLD WEAPON SYSTEMS! There are enough soldiers who can cope with it and then the Nazis will run to Poland itself! AND EVERYTHING! More is not required from Russia!

[vladsolo56]

That's right, when the United States ends with Ukraine, and when it comes to Russia, Putin will also be silent, scary and menacing, and they will kill you at this time, but there will be a plan.

[Dmitry Toderes]

Independence Square in Russia did not take place. How much can you repeat? The United States failed its operation in rebellion in Russia. No one came to the New Manezh Arena in Moscow and regional centers - no one in Russia wants the same MDF as in Ukraine.

[smile]

Dmitry Toderes
Yes, our swamp maydown failed. But the marshes and those who shared their slogans (while indignantly declaring that they were "not like that", simply share the main slogans of the marshes :)))) did not disappear.
Now they are the ones who shout the most - putinsil.
Here is our colleague vladsolo56, for example, during the events on Bolotnaya very actively supported the opposition and was one of the most active speakers calling us to the barricades ....
And now he continues the same line ... And he is not at all ashamed that if the ideas he had supported in his time came to fruition, we would now have the same thing as in Ukraine. And there would be no Southeast in Ukraine now - there would be an ordinary monolithic fascist state. But do you think Vladimir is ashamed? Do you think he thinks about it? Nope! :))) He still passionately exposes the bad Putin ....
You take a close look at such "whistleblowers" - the bulk of them are just such ... in general, one gets the impression. that they don’t care about Ukraine, don’t care that if we climb into Ukraine now, until the independent intoxication has subsided under the yoke of reality, our troops will have to "liberate", God forbid, a quarter of the population of Ukraine from over thirty million Russophobic Ukrainians who will meet us, as invaders ... they don't care about everything - the main thing is to putin to it - and there, even though the grass doesn't grow ... and you can't do anything with them ... such are the people .... :)))

[uhu189]

For us, they will come up with other scenarios, do not think that they all have the same recipes. There are no fools, unfortunately, are sitting

[Mriya]

he is probably training

[Finik]

This is not their war! this is a war against us!

[Iline]

It was not Putin who was insulted publicly, but the president of a world power!
Listen, if the President of a great power responds to howling different mongrels from the gateway, then he simply cannot hold this post. you never know on the Internet walks different collages about the same Obama?
An old Soviet joke comes to mind. Brezhnev and Ford meet. The latter says to Brezhnev: "Here we have democracy. Everyone can go out into the street and shout" Down with Ford. "And he will have nothing. And you?" Brezhnev: "Just think. In our country, too, everyone can go out into the street and shout" down with Ford. "And nothing will happen to him."
We must cherish what we have achieved lately and not look back at faraway people.

[boboss]

Cherish your achievements ... And the children die, and the Russians are killed, the elderly women, the disabled suffer. And you cherish (or tremble) over your achievements ...

[smile]

boboss
But we don’t have enough brains to understand that when we invade to liberate Ukraine, and most Ukrainians will meet us as occupiers and, being duped by independent propaganda, will unite against us, will our troops be forced to and unintentionally kill Ukrainian children? You understand that with the massive use of heavy weapons this will be inevitable, and they will already poke us with children's corpses. and on a much larger scale? Do you understand that we will have to occupy and control vast territories with tens of millions of people hostile to us? I repeat - tens of millions - much more than in Iraq. Continue to continue. or try to think for yourself?

[leon7591]

Smile, you don’t have enough brains in any way to understand - NEVER TO INTRODUCE ANYTHING! NECESSARY SIMPLY P-O-M-O-H-B !!! Now all help is a private initiative that our citizens and organizations are showing. And there you need a COMPREHENSIVE ASSISTANCE OF THE STATE! Let it be unofficial either from South Ossetia or from Saturn! But this help should be at the state level and ORGANIZED!

[leon7591]

Smile, you don’t have enough brains in any way to understand - NEVER TO INTRODUCE ANYTHING! NECESSARY SIMPLY P-O-M-O-H-B !!! Now all help is a private initiative that our citizens and organizations are showing. And there you need a COMPREHENSIVE ASSISTANCE OF THE STATE! Let it be unofficial either from South Ossetia or from Saturn! But this help should be at the state level and ORGANIZED!

[Alexan]

First: "The kid did not answer for the market!" This is weakness! Either don't say populist slogans, or go for it! Second: where is the recognition of Novorossiya, worthy military assistance? Where, at least, harsh condemnation and ultimatums? There is no plan. I am ready to argue on the forum with anyone! They respect not only strength, but also impudence. And then - "they took it on bzdo". Beautiful declarations of laws don't work in this world. Then it will be too late to say: "we did everything according to the law"

[smile]

Alexan
Maybe let's not go down to the level of the courtyard gopot, simplifying international politics to the level of boyish showdowns?
And about the plans ... to you. Of course, judging by your slang, it's hard to understand. but try - the fact is that any state has analytical centers that work out all possible variants of threats and present approximate steps by which to react to them. The consequences are calculated. Based on the proposals, various action plans are developed in various ministries and departments .... of course, the decision remains with the head of state, but the action plans, depending on the development of the situation, are complete. and, of course, they are corrected after a change in the situation. either the situation is driven by their actions under that. in which the previously adopted plan is most effective. The trouble is that the enemy is also not sitting idly by ....
In theory, this should be obvious even for the right kid .... if, in addition to fists, show-off and readiness to go for any "weak", he also has brains. :)))

[leon7591]

Aleksanya is right! Said "A", I must say "B"! In this world, ONLY strength and respect! While the USSR was there, no one could even fart without its approval! And now everyone is looking into Uncle Sam's mouth! But Russia is not Honduras or even Germany! Thank God we do not depend on America! And if they did, as in 2008. in Ossetia, all this riffraff would have subsided in a couple of months, as in 2008! The winners are not judged, the winners are judged! But we do not need any special efforts or sacrifices - only P-O-M-O-U-L!

[Russ69]

Quote: sibi

Our guys should not die in THEIR war.
What will you say when the coffins of our soldiers go to Russia?
Will Putin be guilty again?

Weapons can be given, at least? As a last resort, crush those points from where it flies to us. Why immediately send troops. I don’t understand why two extremes are taken and a choice is made between them?

[uhu189]

Lord, do you have only 2 options? But who is telling you about the deployment of our troops? Do you have other options? It’s impossible to put modern ATGMs so that Yampol doesn’t happen (I don’t speak about tanks and artillery at all)? Do you need to transport medicines to Slavyansk? Radio stations, sights, thermal imagers, so that they are not collected by the society and volunteers in crumbs, but by the state? Or is it so hard to do? There are a lot of fighters, but even they do not have enough small arms, they are forced to fight with the SCS, I am silent about the heavy.

[leon7591]

Good girl, that's right! The militia’s corny lack of weapons, ammunition, food, medicine, and fuel!

[leon7591]

Good girl, that's right! The militia’s corny lack of weapons, ammunition, food, medicine, and fuel!

[scout]

example of Afghanistan is not appropriate at all! Yes, there were casualties, but from the Afghan heroin, it dies 130k a year, and for 10 years of the war, if not mistaken, 15k died! think about it.

[leon7591]

Another nonsense from the camp "howbygone gone"! Nobody is talking about the introduction of troops, it is necessary to do the same as the Americans do - their troops from PMCs and other formations are already there! And also their European NATO sixes are also there, but no one officially talks about it and they deny their participation! And who is stopping us from helping New Russia? We have long been accused of all mortal sins! - It will not be worse! You just need to HELP THE SENTENCES ALL NECESSARY! Believe me, they will cope with the junta on their own, but for this they need equipment, at least as old as now in the Ukrainian army! To fight with a machine gun against tanks ... It would be ridiculous if it were not so ... not even sad, but insulting and sad! We have this old technique in storage - like fleas on a lousy dog! Yes, in the end, if you feel sorry for giving your own, you have to give Ukrop's equipment, which is still stored in the Crimea! They still wanted to transfer it to Ukraine as unnecessary! Shamanized and transmitted and EVERYTHING! The militias and volunteers will do the rest!

[leon7591]

Another nonsense from the camp "howbygone gone"! Nobody is talking about the introduction of troops, it is necessary to do the same as the Americans do - their troops from PMCs and other formations are already there! And also their European NATO sixes are also there, but no one officially talks about it and they deny their participation! And who is stopping us from helping New Russia? We have long been accused of all mortal sins! - It will not be worse! You just need to HELP THE SENTENCES ALL NECESSARY! Believe me, they will cope with the junta on their own, but for this they need equipment, at least as old as now in the Ukrainian army! To fight with a machine gun against tanks ... It would be ridiculous if it were not so ... not even sad, but insulting and sad! We have this old technique in storage - like fleas on a lousy dog! Yes, in the end, if you feel sorry for giving your own, you have to give Ukrop's equipment, which is still stored in the Crimea! They still wanted to transfer it to Ukraine as unnecessary! Shamanized and transmitted and EVERYTHING! The militias and volunteers will do the rest!

[Kolya]

Quote: sibi

not to respond to provocations of the junta and its "mouthpieces" demanding the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine

The 41st is repeated, then they were also afraid of provoking the Germans. Then, near the walls of Moscow and in Stalingrad, the people corrected the mistakes of the leadership. The blind man even sees that the junta is killing civilians, while European officials do not and will not see, because they do not want to. Nevertheless, we do not have an unambiguous victorious decision now. I would like, but you can’t send troops. The Gorbachev and Yeltsin led to this. In modern warfare, the one who plays combinations for years wins. Hope for the stamina of the Russian spirit and for Putin's combination.

[Wels75]

Chet did not understand! Two articles like two twins!
There is a plan and it is not necessary to share it with anyone))) It yourself may not be enough. joke.
Everything goes according to plan! (C) (E. Letov)

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Veles75

Chet did not understand! Two articles like two twins!

panic is transmitted! infectious thing !!!

[DMB3000]

who are these people who type "survey" the situation? School doubles-disassemblers?

[saag]

Quote: Veles75

There is a plan and it is not necessary to share it with anyone))) It yourself may not be enough. joke.
Everything goes according to plan! (C) (

A fresh plan will be delivered soon :-)

[armageddon]

Hmm ... Crimea is OUR !!! AND IN THE ACCOUNT OF THE SOUTH-EAST I BELIEVE WILL BE SAME !!!

[engineer74]

Quote: Armagedon

Hmm ... Crimea is OUR !!! AND IN THE ACCOUNT OF THE SOUTH-EAST I BELIEVE WILL BE SAME !!!

That's it, Lugansk and Donetsk are NOT ALL Southeast! We somehow forget about it ...
"We need peace! Preferably the whole ..." (c) V. Margelov

[Sanglier]

Putin, and Russia does not need the South-East. We need all of Ukraine, or rather Little Russia!

[Per se.]

Quote: Sanglier

Putin, and Russia does not need the South-East. We need all of Ukraine, or rather Little Russia!

Great, but what is being done for this? There is no recognition of Novorossiya, but in fact there is a recognition of the Kiev authorities, which we will call, nevertheless, a junta, and the coup unconstitutional. There is no direct military assistance to the rebels, there is a sea of ​​fog about "great" and secret deliveries of weapons, in fact, this is piece aid from volunteers and trophies of the militia. There is no entry of a peacekeeping military contingent, although authority to use the army was obtained. There are no pinpoint missile and bomb attacks that would have sobered the punishers, although they kill civilians, violated our border and fired at our territory for more than an hour from mortars. There is no ultimatum to end the terror of the civilian population, although the junta cut off electricity and drinking water for them, there are flows of refugees on the border, a humanitarian catastrophe is brewing. What is the cunning plan to seize Little Russia? This is despite the fact that Russia is accused of all sins and sanctions are added, to which there are no retaliatory actions against the United States, no Russian sanctions. Most likely, our diplomatic impotence in Ukraine is not the result of a "top-secret" plan, but a banal selfish lobby of officials dependent on the United States. If they are so slowing down on the events in Ukraine, how can nuclear weapons, God forbid war, be used against their savings in other people's banks and foreign apartments? I would like to share your optimism, but with such a position, there are too many doubts that we really want to get Little Russia, and, moreover, that having capitalism in the country, you can be independent of the world transnational masters of this system and their rules ...

[Alexan]

Somehow naively primitive! "We need everything, so let's give up the piece." But this "piece" is New Russia. This can be a springboard for further struggle. Putin needs Ukraine only as a neutral, non-aligned, buffer state. Take it yourself - rack your brains, spend money on recovery.

[Dmitry Toderes]

I think Novorossia will not be part of Russia. But it will be a union state fully integrated into the Russian economy.

[woron333444]

We have been writing about Putin’s secret plan for more than a month, but he remains secret

[Russ69]

Quote: woron333444

We have been writing about Putin’s secret plan for more than a month, but he remains secret

It's just that people scratch themselves with hopes ...

[vladsolo56]

Of course he is so secret that even Putin himself knows nothing about him

[boboss]

This is a big secret ...

[Drednout]

Harness for so long that soon you will not have to go anywhere anymore.

[Alexan]

I absolutely agree with you. Just a little bit and the Russian population of Novorossia itself will resettle in its historical homeland. It remains to dig a moat from a hostile state ...

[Siberian]

if you stepped on your foot in the bus during a push, this does not mean that you need to answer in the face from the heart, you should not even write to human rights organizations and file a lawsuit. You shouldn't yell and bliss if your 10-year-old child is slapped on the back by a 2-year-old child with a plastic spatula, although the "crime" is obvious. Remember all your childhood and youthful exploits, too, after all, they seemed to be heroes and it was amazing how no one particularly notices ... In such a reaction is strength, not weakness. Documentary statements are being made. They are the basis for showdowns and speculations in the future (the fact is recorded!)

[vladsolo56]

Comparison on a count on a five-point system, to compare the offensive in the crush on the foot and intentional killing, this is the height of vulgarity

[zzz]

Quote: vladsolo56

Comparison on a count on a five-point system, to compare the offensive in the crush on the foot and intentional killing, this is the height of vulgarity

And the height of cynicism.

[saag]

Quote: Siberian

if you’ve stepped on the bus with a jerk, it doesn’t mean that you have to answer in the face with all your heart, you should not even write to human rights organizations and file a lawsuit in court. Do not yell and bliss

Yeah, you have to keep silent so that everyone thinks that you have a cunning plan and put yourself in your pants

[yulka2980]

Well, on this site, some "men" have gathered, where you with their childhood comparisons Recently, there was also an article where they advised not to open your mouth without a military card! Here, half of the site wants to fight, but exclusively from the couch!

[thrower]

Well, what are you doing there, it’s kind of like explaining to the counselor where he can go with his suggestions

[aleks_29296]

But I hope with all my strength that the GDP has its own plan on this subject, which will delight us all! (Well, someone will grieve incredibly).

There is a plan, there is.

[vladsolo56]

Vo In it is about such a plan that all the wise men repeat here

[demon184]

Cru gets drug babosy, why not take an example?

[Vadim]

Do not rely on a mythical plan, it simply does not exist. Putin raised the bar of Russian patriotism quite high, regained pride in the country, and now has been blown away.
Against the backdrop of the Crimea, the Russians stood up for their defense, and now it turns out that he was just bluffing. The Russians are ready for Western sanctions, ready for the defense of the Donbass, and everything is about to start protests against his cowardly position.

[Andrey from Tver]

Quote: Vadim

The Russians are ready for Western sanctions, ready for the defense of the Donbass, and everything is about to start protests against his cowardly position.

Well, in the Donbass oligarchs put a lobster lobster, God forbid, they will get to their Russian colleagues. It is a pity that the Russian people do not have a real leader. And how it all began ... Russian spring, our Crimea ... Putin was blown away? Yes, he didn’t inflate, it just flooded on the stream of national jubilation. And now, for all resources - Ukrainians, dill, etc. You are being manipulated by the media, Slav brothers. And who the owner of these media did not think? The attack on the embassy and the violation of the state border by the armed forces of another state is actually a declaration of war. What is the plan? Ignore these rules? Ugh, trash. Bluffing and lying is the whole plan.

[boboss]

I fully support. I still did not intend to go to Courchevel (and there were no friends - no acquaintances)

[smile]

Vadim
Do not console yourself with illusions; analogues of the Ukrainian Maidan are not permissible. And about the fact that as soon as something is not going as fast as we want, the clicks raise a cry right away - we are used to it. If we, for example, are now occupying vast territories with tens of millions of people hostile to us, then the same clicks will start yelling - Putin has connected the war! The inevitable decline in living standards will also be a catalyst for screamers. :))) Anyway, we're used to it. that in any situation people like you yell-putinsdalputinsil ... it was like that about Syria and Crimea ... you can answer the question why people like you never later yell so loudly that they were yelling in vain, that they are not able to assess the situation and can only yell about the missing polymers for any reason? :)))

[vladsolo56]

Putin certainly has a plan, but what about his plan is only to conclude profitable gas contracts and enrich the Russian oligarchs even more, everything else is not important, the death of innocent people, the death of children is on his conscience today, but it seems he has no conscience.

[Mareman Vasilich]

Another plan of Putin is how to spoil the memory of the past, they reached the red star of Victory. Now it’s a star like Captain America’s cowards.

[Dmitry Toderes]

Are you talking about the colors of the flag of Russia?

[Astartes]

In Russia, the colors of the flag are located differently, google "patriot"

[irina.mmm]

What the author himself does to win in the Donbass. That's right, he writes angry publications. He has a plan on how to win this imposed war against America and Europe. And we need 100% victory, a loss is the price of loss of state independence. Scolding is ourselves now respect, and offer, something sensible, weak.

[Astartes]

and he suggested, but those who read the article noticed this.

[Alexan]

Yes, we here offer everything sensible: Recognize, Arm, Threaten! Don't piss! It is not in our power to select guns, to issue a law ... but to go into a trench with a machine gun without artillery cover, without an aviation "umbrella", without tanks for a breakthrough ... that was in 1942. Now all this is there - only will is needed. Or there is nothing to claim to be a "world power". Regional means "regional". Let's wash!

[sssla]

Quote: irina.mmm

and offer something sensible-weak.

And what to offer then ??? We must act!
The situation - they beat your brother and you don’t have anything to help run back to 30 meters and throw rubble with a fraction of 20 at the enemy. Assistant ??? Well, and what!))) Brother, if you fight back and you are a hero, HELPED after all !!! But there is no finger! And your brother’s finger was broken, the blood from the nose, well, nonsense will not heal after all (Th ours will die). But the street (the world) looks and shakes at a mustache. The Second World War, and before, there were conflicts, as someone looked askance or the embassy smashed the oppa that's the declaration of war !!! And now ?
Now the bag is pulling down. It's scary to lose what is "earned" not by your hump. The values ​​are not the same with spirituality to boot. Why were Russian weapons and soldiers famous ??? Because where there is no justice or evil, there is no hesitation and Russia is in a fist, a villain is squeezed. The WORD does not mean anything now. You can give and you can take it. And when the conversation begins about that there is some kind of "cunning and subtle" plan, then most likely it is not and all decisions are made according to the situation as in Crimea. And lastly --- how can you not understand something what is happening in Ukraine is all against Russia. Do not run out of chi in the enemy (armistice agreements are all bullshit) on the territory of Ukraine, Russia will then receive Chechnya of the nineties in a square cube (in )

[leon7591]

Irina.mmm, I have already written everything, only a blind person may not see the simple version that everyone is talking about, writing, crying about - from ordinary people to politicians, from refugees to Russians, even President's adviser Glazyev has already spoken about this! How many more times do you need to repeat the same thing? IT IS NECESSARY TO HELP THE NOVOROSSIA MILLS WITH WEAPONS, AMMUNITION, EQUIPMENT, PRODUCTS and MEDICINES! So that the militias could defend their cities and OUR FREEDOM! We need to declare a no-fly zone over Novorossia, so that aviation does not bomb the cities and kill our compatriots! We must recognize Novorossia and officially support it in every sense, and first of all at the diplomatic level! For Russia, this assistance will be orders of magnitude cheaper than it will later have to pay for the policy of "non-interference"!

[leon7591]

Irina.mmm, I have already written everything, only a blind person may not see the simple version that everyone is talking about, writing, crying about - from ordinary people to politicians, from refugees to Russians, even President's adviser Glazyev has already spoken about this! How many more times do you need to repeat the same thing? IT IS NECESSARY TO HELP THE NOVOROSSIA MILLS WITH WEAPONS, AMMUNITION, EQUIPMENT, PRODUCTS and MEDICINES! So that the militias could defend their cities and OUR FREEDOM! We need to declare a no-fly zone over Novorossia, so that aviation does not bomb the cities and kill our compatriots! We must recognize Novorossia and officially support it in every sense, and first of all at the diplomatic level! For Russia, this assistance will be orders of magnitude cheaper than it will later have to pay for the policy of "non-interference"!

[sssla]

Quote: Balamyt

But I hope with all my strength that the GDP has its own plan on this subject, which will delight us all!

" Do not be sad ,
Whole life ahead ,
Hope and wait "
"Do you have Mr. Fuchs a plan-
Yes, I have two bags of the selected plan - "
Yes, your plans to pooh and grind after the promises of people and the first deaths, especially children.

[niklaus]

Are you an agent whitewashing the treacherous actions of the government, which (don’t know who) indicated his place, or are you really crazy that you believe in Putin’s mythical plan? All hope for the leaders of the DPR and LPR that they will defend the interests of their republics even today (for self-preservation).

[karal]

In such a situation, USAA would not hesitate for a second, and then the seizure of the embassy, ​​the seizure of Russian citizens, an attack on a border post, etc. It's a shame for indecision, of course. But I hope that we still know very little, and yet Russia is providing assistance to the citizens of New Russia!

[Ujin61]

Max, do we have a plan? We have a plan, Professor! Doesn’t it remind you of anything?

[yushch]

Leon, your point is clear. I will not discuss or condemn it. Only if you contact the President of the Russian Federation, then you need to write on his website.
I just want to say how many people have so many opinions, but there are a lot of articles criticizing the GDP. Everyone is worried about what is happening, but why escalate an already serious situation?

[leon7591]

yushch! This is not a reproach, this is an expression of one's opinion, if you will, a cry from the heart, as this appeal has already been baptized! And, he wrote it to himself too, but most likely these messages do not reach him. They are filtered by the FSB at the stage of sending. Therefore, I expressed my opinion on the public site. Maybe through people's attention and discussion something will reach Him! Although, his adviser Glazyev, probably, also "advised" him. But civic position is also important here - it's an indicator of public opinion! Maybe he lacks our opinion, the opinion of the people to make a decision !?

[leon7591]

yushch! This is not a reproach, this is an expression of one's opinion, if you will, a cry from the heart, as this appeal has already been baptized! And, he wrote it to himself too, but most likely these messages do not reach him. They are filtered by the FSB at the stage of sending. Therefore, I expressed my opinion on the public site. Maybe through people's attention and discussion something will reach Him! Although, his adviser Glazyev, probably, also "advised" him. But civic position is also important here - it's an indicator of public opinion! Maybe he lacks our opinion, the opinion of the people to make a decision !?

[Mriya]

It is quite obvious that Putin does not have any plan and did not have it. Shame on our heads, it seems to me that he lost and on a big scale - there is no faith in him, in any case, he will not help the Russians ANYWHERE, they surrendered everything they could surrender, indeed, he showed everyone that a regional power. He simply dropped Russia, and now he decided that the Federation Council would withdraw the decision on the use of armed forces !!! Say, so as not to interfere with the negotiation process? !!! And at first he let the troops down, then he pulled away, then he let him down again, and now he will withdraw again ??? Directly a theater, and who said that they would not shoot, that they would not kill again, the Ukrainian army did not penetrate from the South-East ?! And what did this decision interfere with? It interferes with the parashenka and the amers, which means we recognized the fascist state, no matter how screaming, we (i.e. we were put under the amers), and how can we not believe about someone's accounts in the amount of 40 billion rubles, in any case, before the Americans called this amount, he said quite intelligible things, afterwards, not once, and everything is very sluggish and "anxious". !!! And the question arises, where did this amount come from .. .but, I think we will not find out. Time is lost, Rolssia is all in stress, and our "guarantor" has passed all positions, everything ...

[Mikhail Ishutin]

Mriya. I completely agree with you. It’s a shame on your heads. And to ask about the affiliation of these heads ... And help us to the Russians ... ... help then we rake for twenty years? You cannot help yourself. But we just don’t need to interfere.

[velikoros-xnumx]

Quote: Balamyt

But I hope with all my strength that the GDP has its own plan on this subject, which will delight us all! (Well, someone will grieve incredibly).

Yes, yes - South Stream in exchange for New Russia. I really want to believe that I'm wrong. Life will show...

[Combitor]

Quote: Balamyt

To be honest, I didn't quite understand how we "swallowed" the encroachments on our territory ???

The picture for the article is clearly not successful. Is the country tearing to pieces?

[MolGro]

the author so what are you waiting for? machine in hand and go !!
There are waiting for volunteers !!
And it is necessary to go broke, but it is necessary!
Once again I repeat it makes no sense to send troops!
Itself there everything will be bent with such rulers, but after that it is possible when they are full of their "Svidomo"!
As they say, treating gangrene with cauterization does not work, only amputation !!
That's when all Ukrainians will understand what their nationalists and Svidomo traitors are, and when Europe will never help them, then you need help. before - this was partisanism and terrorist attacks.

[FANTOM-72]

Quote: MolGro

the author so what are you waiting for? machine in hand and go !!

There is no one like him there. What if they kill you? Who will irrigate the brain of the electorate with shit? It would not be bad to create a consolidated battalion "Named the 5th Column" by driving all these Judas there and under the tanks. From the tse bulo was strong.

[Dmitry Toderes]

Nemtsov and Navalny "commanders of the 5th column." Let them see what militias are "terrorists" and dill "government troops"!

[vladsolo56]

Yes, he will take the machine gun and go to fight only when the Nazis come to your house, who will defend himself, such as you just wait for everyone to decide for you,

[Mhpv]

Quote: MolGro

the author so what are you waiting for? machine in hand and go !!
There are waiting for volunteers !!
And it is necessary to go broke, but it is necessary!

Article from the category:
Go Eagles, and I am behind you!
I will stand behind your backs!
The author apparently forgot that Putin is responsible for 143mln Russians, so as not to drag them into the war.
I repeat again:
Why don't they have sex in Red Square?
The author-answer is known to all.

[Dmitry Toderes]

"terrorist attacks". What on h.r.u. "terrorist attacks" !? - sabotage. Follow the vocabulary. The militias are not the Taliban!

[Alexan]

We are not talking about Ukrainians, but about Russians! They are threatened (not in words), at least, exile! From their lands! So shout "take the machine gun, go fight!" only the one who is in the trench has the right! Are you in the trench ??? So - there is nothing pi ... pi ... pi ...! There is nothing to wait, we must arm! And not only with machine guns, MANPADS. ATGM. Then the volunteers will understand that they have not been abandoned. So far, only hatred of enemies! Do you want to wait for hatred of your own rulers?

[BMVIK]

It makes no sense to appeal to the president, he will still pursue the strategy that he considers necessary. One hope is that, on the basis of the extensive information available to him, just such a strategy is currently the only true one and will lead to the defeat of the Nazis and their puppeteers. If this is just cowardice for ourselves and our environment, then our future will be disappointing.

[Curious]

I support the author. Of course I'm not so categorical and harsh as Leon, but I also had questions and doubts. How much can you endure silently?
If you are afraid to protect the people being destroyed officially, then do it the same way America and Europe do (who help the junta with their warriors and weapons), unofficially.

[inkass_98]

I didn’t put a minus to the article, I understand - the cry of the soul. But the author is clearly in hysteria, and even suddenly discovered the greatest commander of all time, who ruled the country via the Internet via iPhone - Dima Nanotolevich Stulogrey, a decisive fighter against imperialism. Who was waiting for the leading kick before proceeding with decisive and fruitful actions ...

[creak]

I support, with the same success we can ascribe victory in the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. and Serdyukov - he was then the Minister of Defense ... It was not this sweet couple who won, the whole severity of the war of war was borne by himself, as usual, by a simple Russian soldier and brought lavrushniki to life ... Tired of these hysterical sobs and statements in style, if if I were a sultan ... As they say, God does not give horns to a vigorous cow.

[leon7591]

inkas_98! You did not understand the irony, of course, Medvedev is not a commander, that’s the point! But it was during his presidency that the brazen aggression, quickly supported by the Americans, was stopped in a week, and that’s it! And the whole Georgian army fled home! The same thing could happen when all this bacchanalia began in Ukraine! When there was no legal authority other than the junta! When ukramiya was just pulling on his pants and starting shelling cities! When soldiers conscripts refused to shoot at their citizens, and reservists did not want to go to the military commissariats! And if the President is afraid of responsibility, then let him designate him to be Supreme even if Medvedev! :)

[leon7591]

inkas_98! You did not understand the irony, of course, Medvedev is not a commander, that’s the point! But it was during his presidency that the brazen aggression, quickly supported by the Americans, was stopped in a week, and that’s it! And the whole Georgian army fled home! The same thing could happen when all this bacchanalia began in Ukraine! When there was no legal authority other than the junta! When ukramiya was just pulling on his pants and starting shelling cities! When soldiers conscripts refused to shoot at their citizens, and reservists did not want to go to the military commissariats! And if the President is afraid of responsibility, then let him designate him to be Supreme even if Medvedev! :)

[Death to the Nazis]

After the annexation of Crimea, Putin’s rating was always reported on all channels. And now silence for a long time. Why?

[Alexan]

I think that this rating has not fluctuated much. This is because there are not so many "in-depth in the topic" as we are on the forum. There are a lot of apolitical people and the problems of Ukraine, which everyone does not like so much, these are their problems - we do not need a war!

[sem-yak]

Here, Mr. Leon, become president and send troops wherever you want! And you’ll enter them in the wrong place, and they will enter you in the wrong way! And everyone knows how to whip his tongue in a fever!

[Mercenary]

It is the "rulers of Ukraine" may and will bend, but the sediment will remain at Novorosov. And do not be surprised, sir, crap, when, because of you, the Donbass guys will treat Russia with contempt.

[GUSAR]

Putin’s plan is probably to lure Bandera to Moscow, to cut down electricity, gas, water, Internet and mobile communications, and there’s bam and winter !!!

[mig31]

No need to tear and throw, just think and act ...

[Dejavu]

Blah blah blah, Rassiya in battle !!! Walk through the forest, dear.

[Letun]

I read to the place where it is written about the decisive commander Medvedev and did not continue to continue

[gor530]

The president and his retinue are held for one place, that is where the indecision and silence comes from. what can we say to the people, we will wait for the bombs to fall on the Kremlin. but then the Great Patriotic War will not work. in Russia there is no national idea, and money rules everything. and not even rubles, and not what not secured green papers. This is what we have built.

[luna333]

Avtar take the machine and you don’t have to balm the people forward

[Egen]

"But now you are a disgrace to Russia! I am ashamed of you! You have become not interesting to me, but there are millions of people like me!"
+!
VV P has its own peace plan :(

[Scandinavian]

To be honest, my opinion is that in the next few days there will be no obvious facts of military assistance to Donbas and the Luhansk region, the myth that Putin has a brilliant plan will just blow like a haze in the fog and then the rating may go downhill. The fact that now a kind of truce for a week is just a regrouping of junta troops. The land of Novorossia is a place of shale gas development and get it finally. Comrade Putin is enough to rattle your weapons, start supplying weapons, spare parts and fuel and lubricants. Our brothers from New Russia will do the rest themselves. It is not necessary to send troops, just shut up this liberalism and do not listen to it.

[zzz]

Quote: Scandinavian

Comrade Putin is enough to rattle your weapons, start supplying weapons, spare parts and fuel and lubricants. Our brothers from New Russia will do the rest themselves. It is not necessary to send troops, just shut up this liberalism and do not listen to it.

This is exactly what they are now expecting from Putin. There are enough people there, give me a weapon !! And more !! And they will drive all this evil to the Dnieper !!

[Dmitry Toderes]

"if in the coming days there are no obvious facts of military assistance to Donbas and Luhansk region"
If in the coming days obvious facts of military assistance to the Donbas and the Luhansk region follow, then this is a failure of Putin's plan! You get it. The world community (peoples) sees that the West is lying, they see - there is no evidence. And if they will? Then the informal assistance plan (if it really is) is failed.

[Scandinavian]

Dmitry, I want to answer you the following. For the past two weeks, I’ve been tracking videos that appear on YouTube. Thank God 21 century and everyone has a handset with a camera or a recorder in the car. So I'm particularly interested in armored vehicles that appear in the Luhansk region and Donbas. So my conclusion is this. In the coming week, the junta will throw a good armored group against Slavyansk and Lugansk, and maybe Donetsk, which can give a shave in any live defense of the militias. The technique is only that which is captured from the junta. Its extremely small. There is no permanent supply channel for spare parts and fuel. And in general there is no grammatical channel for the transfer of equipment to militias from Russia. It is enough to recall the BM 21 Grad and 80 armored personnel carriers with the documents of the military unit of Russia, which the militia squeezed out of the Ukrainian army. It seems as if there is no single channel, but the militia is transferred the equipment to everyone who is not lazy and out of all the holes. While there will be such a mess and the supply channel is not established, it will not be possible to assemble normal motorized parts. We need a constant and well-controlled supply chain. There is none of this yet.

[leon7591]

Dmitry, if there are facts or they will not exist at all, the pro-American media will “dig up” such facts anyway! No one cares that Russia is not interfering anywhere! They will still accuse Russia and Putin of all mortal sins! And does it really matter what they come up with there! And if sufficient help comes even from South Ossetia, even from Abkhazia, then everything there will change very quickly! And when the militias sweep the junta out of Kiev, there will be no one to shout that Russia is helping the militias! All this shaking of air - not worth a damn! Only real help can solve all problems! And it seems to me that those authors who say that Putin is afraid for his loot are right! If the militias overthrow the junta, then who will pay our debts for gas ?!

[leon7591]

Dmitry, if there are facts or they will not exist at all, the pro-American media will “dig up” such facts anyway! No one cares that Russia is not interfering anywhere! They will still accuse Russia and Putin of all mortal sins! And does it really matter what they come up with there! And if sufficient help comes even from South Ossetia, even from Abkhazia, then everything there will change very quickly! And when the militias sweep the junta out of Kiev, there will be no one to shout that Russia is helping the militias! All this shaking of air - not worth a damn! Only real help can solve all problems! And it seems to me that those authors who say that Putin is afraid for his loot are right! If the militias overthrow the junta, then who will pay our debts for gas ?!

[Andrey82]

In the warehouses of millions of Soviet AK and RPGs, but for some reason the militias complain that the machine is one for two and almost no RPGs, at least Mukh. But it’s not much work - several. trucks. It takes 10 thousand trunks and several. hundreds of RPGs. But this is not. But some publicists jump out of their pants (Starikov) proving how Russia helps. Like tank supplies. It is already clear that tanks from Ukraine itself (for specific sights) and that cartridges and weapons were taken from the SBU and military units. In Lugansk there is a cartridge factory.
But the problem with the RPGs (and even better the old Soviet anti-tank systems) without militias can not be solved.

[Baitly]

Quote: MolGro

the author so what are you waiting for? machine in hand and go !!

And shit shit .... (saying)
Victory is near, we have all of Russia, all Russians.
And the Dill have only "mova" and 23 years of brainwashing (although I don't even know what to call what is in their heads).
Let the so-called "fifth column" fall on the historical homeland, bathe in the Dead Sea (you cannot drown there, the salinity is high, and g ..., as you know, does not sink).

Special greetings to Egoze.

[Siberian]

Is the author so outraged while sitting on the couch? Or is he already on his way and on the approaches to Slaviansk, Lugansk ?. Putin very rudely, opaque and clearly made it clear that volunteers can be there in any quantity and at any time without orders (they are not in diapers), this does not contradict our legislation. The Union of Airborne Forces of Russia sharply stated that it was taking everything into its own hands (took it?), Maybe Novorossia, including this, was counting on it? Not your couch tantrums. Begin with yourself.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Siberian

Is the author so outraged while sitting on the couch?

he became bored, little action!

[woron333444]

I will say an unpleasant thing: if you volunteer without the permission of the government, then from the side of our authorities you will face criminal liability, at least in three respects. Murder, illegal use of weapons and something else, I don’t remember. So volunteers go at their own peril and risk. In Russia, they do not have support

[FANTOM-72]

Quote: woron333444

In Russia, they do not have support

This yesterday you grandmother at the entrance sang ???

[thrower]

I will support you:

Vacationers are being recruited into motorized tours - former tankmen (of all specialties), gunners familiar with the Grad systems, and signalmen. Helicopter and aviation pilots will not be abandoned either. You need to apply for vouchers to Moscow at Krasnokazarmennaya, 2. Phone [phone] (personnel).


http://shrek1.livejournal.com/454366.html]

[uhu189]

The third article is mercenary.

[Andrew K]

You're wrong! Volunteers can be in the Donbass only on an illegal basis. In order for them to be there legally, it is necessary to amend the law.

[FANTOM-72]

Quote: Andrei K

You're wrong!

Do you hear yourself ???? WHAT LAWS IN THIS CASE ???? Of course on illegal, just border guards blinked when volunteers seeped.

[siberalt]

The author is screaming! Well, Putin will introduce troops. Again, the miners hinder the work. Or does someone think that if our tanks enter the Donbass, then the war will instantly end? But will there be something else - already an anti-Russian militia? Will another stream of refugees rush to Ukraine already? Well, there is no unity in New Russia. No! The state itself has not yet been formed. Who to rely on? To the majority? And where is the majority? Or has it already chosen its government and representative bodies? Or at least an intelligible constitutional act, WHAT exactly does it represent as an independent entity. One thing is certain, the assistance to the rebels is clearly insufficient.

[NUR]

The coachman do not drive horses.

[BMVIK]

Quote: gor530

in Russia there is no national idea, and money rules everything. and not even rubles, and not what not secured green papers. This is what we have built.

Let me disagree, there is still a lively generation of those who were brought up in the USSR, served in the SA, and we are still able to keep weapons, so that is not so bad. Yes, and young people when they get up to the edge just as well can show Russian stamina - the Pskov assault, a living example of how to stand for the homeland. So if you have to - we just can’t be crushed, I think so.

[series]

Apparently today the provocateurs are on fire. The second such piece for today. Or in some places there is an "open door", or some have a "payday" ...

[FANTOM-72]

Quote: S-17

or someone has a "payday" ...

afraid to be left without a salary.

[kush62]

Another scream of another couch warrior. I don’t own the situation, but I want to shout.

[mixas]

Doesn't anyone really understand the simple truth? The goal of the United States was to bring Russia into the war over eastern Ukraine in order to inflict a crushing blow on the Russian economy, since any war is a huge expense (remember Chechnya and the 90s, a similar scenario). Here VVP has chosen a very correct strategy of "not getting involved" and Russia has become, no matter what, to do with it. Peace talks have already begun yesterday and we are again peacekeepers. By this action (inaction), the GDP saved Russia from a possible economic crisis, as well as saved a bunch of Russian 18-year-old guys who would have died for a country that no longer exists.

[commander]

We can send troops to Ukraine to take out civilians and that’s all.
Then you still have to leave not our territory. No one will give us the land just like that, she's a stranger. But after the departure of the troops "shit" in our direction will flow not in streams but in rivers.

[ed65b]

the author wrote what each of us probably thinks. someone, as the author acknowledges this openly, someone drives these thoughts quietly. but they are and are getting louder and louder every day. Public opinion was divided into two parts very clearly those who are for and those who are against the latter engaged in the usual business of intimidating the population with world punishment. if the liberals were quiet for the first time, now they have climbed out of all the cracks and have already prophesied to us in the event of a total impoverishment and new 90. channels controlled by the liberals betray the broadcasts of the opinion that Russia (think it over) DO NOT TAKE REFUGEES AS IT IS NOT READY AND READY IT IS BETTER TO STAY IN UKRAINE. I hope that GDP still has a will and an action plan. and New Russia need to hold on and hold on. Good luck with that.

[Anchonsha]

Leon, than sitting on the couch and provoking Putin to the war you so desired in Ukraine, it would be better if he went there and fought. Do you really want coffins in Russia? Yes, now, after the introduction of troops, half of even Donbass will leave to fight against us from patriotic impulses. I didn’t think about why the miners work in the mines and pay taxes to the junta, why the Kharkovites build armored vehicles and give them to Bandera, so that they kill the Donetsk and Luhansk residents, why are they silent in Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk? So it’s better to shut up if your brains don’t work. Only residents of Ukraine can understand their problems now. They raised fascism, were silent for 23 years, when Bandera’s policy filled their brains, many wanted to live in Europe, at a time when Russia warned them of haste. Putin V.V is doing his job to support New Russia, but without the introduction of troops.

[leon7591]

Anchonsha, your brains don't work for you! You yourself did not think why the German workers were silent when they made Hitler weapons for the war ?! And why did their communists rot in the camps ?! Why was everyone in Khatyn silent when the Nazis killed them? You are a narrow-minded verbiage! If you do not have enough brains, I will explain to you - all this is happening in Ukraine, because behind the backs of conscripts there are Bandera and Pravoseks with machine guns! And they shoot everyone who does not want to shoot at their people, or who disagree with them! As it was on Mount Karachun, in Mariupol, in Volnovakha, in Odessa at last! The same is happening all over Ukraine! They shoot all those who disagree without trial or investigation! They are shooting their soldiers, workers, medical workers together with the wounded! And ordinary people, as in the years of the fascist occupation, are forced to work for the fascists (then German, and now for the Ukrainian) on pain of death from a bullet or from hunger! The same goes for the miners! And it was not the people of Novorossiya who nurtured fascism, they just did not accept it! They stood there and covered Russia with their breasts! And only such rotten liberal-shitcrats like you are capable of arguing that it would be necessary to wait "how it happened"! And the war is already underway! Tens of thousands of refugees are already in Russia! Hundreds of our brothers have been killed, dozens are rotting in the dungeons of the SBU! Have you seen, "righteous man", tears in the eyes of refugee children, in the eyes of mothers of wounded and murdered children ?! And if you lack understanding at all, then read about the Brzezinski plan! The fate of the colony has long been predicted for us! And the whole question will be able to embody it or not! This war is not even a civil war, it is a war against Russia !!! And we need just a little - HELP NOVOROSSIA !!!

[mackonya]

Many have already understood how the political "picture" will be formed, but in the section "Opinion" there is one article after another such as: "Putin merged Novorossia", "Putin, help", "Russia will end soon after the Donbass has been drained" and so on. You can write your articles at least every 5 minutes, the political victory of Russia is already close, a defeat for Ukraine and the state. dep. inevitable. What do you want to achieve with your "panicky" articles, I do not understand. If anyone buys it, there are definitely not many of them.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the second article "the boss is all gone", is that contagious? !!!

[APS]

Article minus! According to the author, our president crossed out his past achievements and now he is a bad president. You are mistaken, we have the best president and you don’t need to wipe his feet! And he does not need to indicate what to do either! Leon, become president and send troops wherever you want!

[Gardamir]

When talking about zombie Ukrainians, I see no less zombie Russians. For example, Stalin was something to respect. For industrialization, for the construction of the metro, for the war won. What did Putin do? Factories continue to close, fields are overgrown, thanks to ege and education debilitation of the population is carried out. Traditions are destroyed. Or maybe you really think that the absorption of the beer is a Russian tradition? He planted Kvachkov and released Taburetkin. They won the Olympics even under Brezhnev, but they never lost the USSR in hockey. Give real merit of Putin, not pout.

[mixas]

Well, I don’t know, in the Leningrad Oblast and the Pskov Oblast, agriculture is developing and how (a bunch of farms are being built, I know a few farmers myself), waste processing plants, brick, concrete, etc. are being built. Old Soviet factories are falling apart because nobody needs kefir bottles and a wooden crate anymore, military factories are flourishing because there are a lot of government orders) I understand this comment you wrote about Ukraine?

[Gardamir]

Thank you for your comment, I would also like to hear about what you wrote not on the forums, but on the news on TV. Over the past 3 years, traveled all over the castle. Kaluga, Yaroslavl, Tver, Vladimir, Nizhny Novgorod and Kirov regions. A situation similar to that described by you only in Kaluga, everything is really built and developed there, but the rest does not develop, but in Kirov, like after the war, destroyed factories and thistle in the fields.

[sem-yak]

So Putin is not there to dig a shovel! People themselves do not want to work !!!

[Averias]

Quote: Gardamir

When they talk about zombie Ukrainians, I see no less zombie Russians. For example, Stalin was something to respect. For industrialization, for the construction of the metro, for the war won. What did Putin do? Factories keep closing

Come on, were you yourself present at the closing? The closure and liquidation of loss-making industries are two different things. Here, read as ours, from your words everything was closed. Statistics for 2013, may stop writing nonsense (link http://rossiyanavsegda.ru/read/1346/) And this is vain, if you look more carefully, the result will be more than convincing.

PS I myself live in Tyumen, the Tyumen region has become a leader in meat and dairy products. Where does this come from, after all, from your words everything is closed, the fields are overgrown?

[Gardamir]

As life statistics show, and what I see with my own eyes is not the same thing. plus your remarks, but where in Moscow is Tyumen milk and meat. And why is my homeland Kirov region all unprofitable? But even in remote villages there is a white liquid "village house" for sale, which belongs to the company you blinammm, which is part of Pepsi. So the widely advertised "house" is not a Russian product.

[sem-yak]

So take care! Organize a dairy farm, get rich and feed people with good milk!

[nils]

I’ll try to cite Putin’s real merits:

1. In the field of education, with the introduction of the Unified State Examination, the number of literate, versatile, educated, erudite, logically thinking graduates has sharply increased. With the project of introducing the exam in high school, the same fate awaits her.
2. Finally, the constitutional right of everyone to free highly qualified medical care is realized. Given the mass release of trained doctors, as discussed above, success is obvious.
3. Enormous successes have been achieved in the field of science and high-tech production. The Skolkovo project alone made it possible to make a giant leap forward. The reform of the Academy of Sciences, within the framework of these projects, confirms the concern of the Putin government for further success.
4. Never before has our Army reached such a level of readiness to repel any aggressor and the ability to bring itself to the highest degree of mobilization readiness in the shortest possible time. Only thanks to Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov, under the direct LEADERSHIP of Supreme Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Putin, the Army is manned and equipped with the most advanced and modern technical means, especially the urgently needed Mistrals.
5. Agricultural production allows us to fully ensure the country's food security. Dawn overtook literally all the former collective farms and state farms, agricultural enterprises and farms.
6. The fight against corruption has reached the highest level of development.
7. The space station "MIR" was sunk, the bases in Camran and Lourdes were left, which, being extremely costly, hindered the rapid economic growth of Russia.
8. And how many remarkable figures of culture and art have appeared in our country, especially the graduates of the school of A. Pugacheva. Never before has creative freedom reached such a level, eclipsing the whole past.
9. Well and the most important thing is FREEDOM! A person can realize all his desires without limiting needs. The constant availability of non-sour beer in the country, the ease in satisfying intimate needs, the consequences are not a problem, abortions are legal and the number of homeless houses is growing.

The list of successes can be continued further, affecting the law enforcement area, the court, the prosecutor's office, the fight against drug trafficking, prostitution and population policy, etc. But on this round off.
Thank you for attention.

[Gardamir]

You are right humor and sarcasm are a more powerful tool than emotions.
Continuing in that style:
10 finally, the Russian army had its own symbol star torn on the Dutch flag.
11 the ruble symbol finally appeared, for the letter P is simply intolerant. But the ruble in the form of a cross will mean that it is time to bury the ruble.

[nils]

Continuing the theme of merit:

You can’t praise a person all the time. It should be noted and the shortcomings taking place.
They are few. The most significant of these are of course the Sochi Olympics and the especially arrogant, shameless, rude, cynical, violation of all international law norms seizure of Crimea, which does not fit into the framework allotted to Russia by the world community.
These actions stirred up the entire progressive public, clearly showing that Russia did not fully comprehend Democracy and the principles of Human Rights, so kindly provided to it in 1991.
Where are Russian human rights defenders looking, especially a "clever" human rights defender with a slender, intelligent face bearing a tinge of grief - Mr. Lukin, who so successfully freed inspectors of the European military mission taken prisoner by "bloody militias"?

[series]

The sarcasm is understandable, but before you write it, you should familiarize yourself with the "materiel" for all the above points, otherwise it smells very much, at least just ignorance of the material, at most - outright stupidity from the category of "liberal manuals" ...
PS: Although on the first point - I completely agree ...

[series]

Putting a minus "mind" was enough, but apparently there was no longer any argument left ...

[series]

Putting a minus "mind" was enough, but apparently there was no longer any argument left ...

[Agent 008]

The question is what - will the Ukropskie troops of the militia be defeated or not? If defeated, then we will "merge" Putin, it will be his collapse definitely! And if the militias win, then Putin is on top - this is also clear! The only thing is that without heavy weapons, the militias may well lose! That's the whole alignment ...

[Blondy]

Right now, the president will report to everyone - how much, whom, what, and where he introduced. Aviation then ukrov almost gone. And the president is supposed to know nothing about the PZRK, he has such a position.

[leon7591]

Madame Blonde, do not indulge yourself with illusions. They have aviation, and while there is a truce, it will now be reactivated! And you don't really need to report anything to the President! Everything is already visible! And if he had "introduced what and where", the ukrofashists would have been the first to feel this very first and would probably have squealed louder than anyone else! But alas ... So far, only heroic guys at checkpoints are fighting with small arms against tanks and die ...

[leon7591]

Madame Blonde, do not indulge yourself with illusions. They have aviation, and while there is a truce, it will now be reactivated! And you don't really need to report anything to the President! Everything is already visible! And if he had "introduced what and where", the ukrofashists would have been the first to feel this very first and would probably have squealed louder than anyone else! But alas ... So far, only heroic guys at checkpoints are fighting with small arms against tanks and die ...

[I am proud of Russia]

The peace enforcement operation should begin, no doubt, but burn it without our guys! Let the geyropeytsy send their blue in helmets, dill is not fools in these will not shoot.

[Averias]

But what is it? The second in a row article of this kind in the news on Topwar this morning. Today to see the day of all-crawler?

[FANTOM-72]

Quote: Averias

But what is it? The second in a row article of this kind in the news on Topwar this morning. Today to see the day of all-crawler?

Just until the first of July there is nothing left. So they pour articles with Stakhanov enthusiasm. Before customers, even this, but it is necessary to report.

[snifer]

I don’t know how it is for you, but for me, after all this, Putin is not the president, I already wrote that it’s Putin’s failure and complete failure, I won’t go to the next elections or will vote for another (that's just for whom) It's time to return A king and where to take him.

[andj61]

Emotions are running high again! As an appeal to the leader "from the people" - this, of course, is good, but in general - of course, too much.
But, perhaps, everyone already has the idea that Russia is still not enough to help the people's republics, not enough to clearly indicate its position, not enough to firmly defend it.
Maybe you should remember the story?
In 1844, someone wrote the play “Paul I” in France. The author did not hesitate to endow him with various negative traits and gave the scene of his murder in the Mikhailovsky Palace - and, of course, scandalous success would have been if the play had been staged. The efforts of the Russian ambassador to France did not solve the problem: they answered that France was a free country and could not control private life, which included theater performances.
Then Nicholas I wrote to the king of France that if this play was staged, he would send to Paris a million spectators in gray overcoats, who would lighten her.
Of course, after such a letter, this play never saw the light of day.
You see, there is no need at all to use military force unless ANYONE has any doubt that it WILL be used if completely certain requirements are not met.
Apparently here and now such doubts have arisen on the Ukrainian side. As a result, Russia's positions look somehow ... pale.
In no way do I fully support such an emotional position of the author. But being tougher in our world is definitely worth it.
I leave the article unrated.

[leon7591]

Bravo to Nicholas-1 !!!

[Good_Taxist]

Specify! what kind of people? and which president?

[Black Colonel]

Some hysteria.

[Russ69]

Author's article, cry of the soul of course. But Putin really could not bring bloodshed, to such an extent and without the introduction of troops. But he didn’t, and for what reason we won’t know soon. Either the fear of sanctions, or under the pressure of the oligarchs, on which these sanctions began to act, because in addition to the announced, a lot of unannounced have earned. In any case, big business began to experience problems in obtaining loans in the West.
But if, we are now crushed by sanctions, then they will also be asked on another question, since there are many contentious issues in politics.
What I agree with the author for sure. That president can not be stupidly silent when they kill Russian people, especially after a promise to help ...

[NUR]

Better than Blondy no one knows who where and what introduced +.

[Corsair]

This is how the people "see off" the presidents who did not justify the hopes placed on them and went against the aspirations of the people ...

The Ukrainian side at the talks in Donetsk was represented only by the second president, Leonid Kuchma. Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine Valeriy Chaly said this on the air of "Freedom of Speech" on the ICTV channel. "The words" truce "and" negotiations with separatists "can not be used, as a real negotiating mechanism for the implementation of the president's plan. And who can join him - they are involved. Although regarding the circle of persons who participate in the negotiations, quite interesting was found decision, when the second president of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma, on the instructions of the president, is now involved in this work. This is the only representative who was at the talks from the president, "Chaly said.
Read more here: http://112.ua/politika/ukrainskuyu-storonu-na-peregovorah-v-donecke-predstavlyal
-tolko-kuchma-ap-78919.html

[evilrussian]

I don’t think Putin reads VO. Why such articles? Another hysteria?

[FANTOM-72]

Quote: evilrussian

I don’t think Putin reads VO.

This is not for him, this is for readers.

[Rigla]

The situation is complicated, but I believe that Putin understands the fact that in the event of the death of Novorossia and the Nazis creating an alternative concentration camp for all residents of Novorossia and Putin's silence, he will be damned forever and ever. I believe that he has some kind of plan.

[Gypsy girl]

Sitting on the couch, you can say anything ...

[Serg7281]

Something too many articles appeared yesterday and today, where the President of Russia is accused of helplessness, betrayal of interests, etc., when it was possible to seat the junta at the negotiating table with the militias. All of them do not inspire good thoughts, about ordering certain Western circles, on another attempt to sow distrust in the government and hang all the dogs. At first it was during the Crimean events. Then after the events in Odessa, now. Their rhetoric is interesting: first, Putin did "inappropriate in the civilized world - he annexed someone else's land." Then Putin, without agreement with the Fashington Regional Committee, categorically condemned the actions of the Pravosek in Odessa. Further, Putin did not want to come to Poroshenko's inauguration. Now that there is a real chance to end the bloodshed in the South-East of Ukraine, all the above authors began to unanimously accuse Putin of the above-described sins. Have you received another grand and you need to work out your 30 pieces of silver?

[_umka_]

It’s time for the author to stop chatting and volunteer to go to Lugansk, let him smell the gunpowder before sending Russian soldiers to the war.

[jurassic61]

Grandfather and grandmother live with my wife in Artyomovsk, after recent events with the military unit (and they live nearby) we called up and they said that the people living nearby were not very pleased with the appearance of militias in the city, they say after militias appear nat. do the conclusion of the guard yourself.

[Russ69]

Quote: jura61

that the people living nearby are not very happy with the appearance of militias in the city, they say, after the militias appear there will be nat. do the conclusion of the guard yourself.

That's right, for many, the main principle is still; "my, hut on the edge." They want everything to be decided without them, for them, and preferably somewhere far away ...
And whoever suits them, the fighting in their city ...

[Egoza]

Quote: jura61

the people living nearby are not very pleased with the appearance of militias in the city, they say after the militias appear nat. do the conclusion of the guard yourself.

That's it! The militias themselves do not have the forces (weapons) to sweep out all these bandits. And they are already beginning to blame THEM for war and destruction. What did you think? Vote peacefully and just as peacefully do federalization be done at the request of the people? Such grandmas will give? Schaz! So now the local and militias are being pitted !!!

[Corsair]

Quote: jura61

after the militias appear nat. do the conclusion of the guard yourself.

And when the National Guard appears, will civilians killed by them appear?
So maybe the MALFUNCTION protecting the city is still GOOD in comparison with the fascist paramilitary groups?
Or according to L.N. Tolstoy, EVIL do not need to resist VIOLENCE?

[lewerlin53rus]

Hurray-patriots1 You chat in social networks with Svidomo. This is something with something! .My many acquaintances from Ukraine, with whom they had recently communicated nicely on the network, now hate Russia. They ALREADY consider us to be occupiers and do not see things that are elementary for us. It is useless to explain. they rejoice in the deaths of civilians in the Southeast. They dream of returning Crimea and rave about Great Ukraine. I also want to have moments that we would send troops and restore order, gouging all this fascist fraternity. But there will be no order until they themselves want to. 20 years of anti-Russian propaganda have done their job. I don’t know what will happen next. I’m not an analyst, most of whom themselves do not know what and how will and what to do. I believe that management knows how to act. Until now, I trust. we'll see there.

[PATTIY]

Quote: lewerlin53rus

They dream of returning Crimea and rave about Great Ukraine.

Forecast Ruins - pre-Default! Feast during the plague - this is the name of this diagnosis.
Personally, I fucking hate, let them burst from it.
And Russia will continue to master space!

[Fantazer911]

Everything that is happening in Ukraine is America conceived, as I thought and only then read in nete that America needed Crimea, in order to cut off the Black Sea Fleet from the exit, it seems in the Mediterranean and beyond, there was a plan for the development by the Americans Crimea and the construction of its bases, etc., since it didn’t succeed in capturing Crimea, they decided in revenge to inflict a civil strife and the like on the junta in Ukraine in power, they’re sputtering gas, they kill people, children, children of older and older children.
And shout from the sofa, come on, well, it's stupid, we are embroiled in this war, and there will be no end to it, and endurance and unspoken help is coming, there is no need to appeal to honor and patriotism, I would go myself, but a small child and the young wife will not let go! so it’s not worth screaming and barking everyone, I’ve got ready to go, otherwise it’s not worth provoking people.

[Stinger]

Да... Не оправдал надежд автора и западных партнёров гражданин президент. Никак не хочет вляпаться в войну за народное счастье. Столько возможностей упустил! Сирия, Ирак, Афганистан. Ну не хочет помогать детям и всё. Его уж все клеймят, а он, как истинный агрессор,ноль внимания. Правда, чего греха таить, слегка (молча) помогли Ливии, теперь там полный порядок. Но это же капля в море! Вот если вкапаться по настоящему, то это будет круто, по нашему. И весь измученный ожиданием российский народ, от лица которого выступает автор, облегчённо вздохнёт и побежит в военкоматы. А дети, эти милые крошки, сразу перестанут гибнуть.
Ребята, ну, есть же головной мозг! Зачем пользоваться одним спинным.

[A1L9E4K9S]

Спокойнее друзья,спокойнее,не поддавайтесь на провокации,статейки накарябать может любой,с любыми обвинениями кого угодно.Ну а если кому невтерпёжь,добровольцы два шага вперёд,получите оружие и в Донбасс.Сейчас диванных провокаторов много развелось.

[Standard Oil]

Как я понимаю большинство хочет сидеть и ждать чего-то,только вот чего?Ясно ведь,что хунта постепенно раздавит ополченцев,а что потом,еще ноту одну?Какое нафиг противостояние с Америкой,если мы пророссийские силы у своей границы защитить не можем.Тогда получается Обама прав:"Россия региональная держава" чем опровергнуть его утверждение?Тем,что мол "Путин знает что делать...",а может не знает,может он струсил,позвонили из Вашингтона и сказали "Сиди не дергайся" вот он и сидит,что такой вариант невероятен что ли?Это почему это?Вот думал человек,что он крутой и сильный,а вот ему позвонили,и он уже не крутой и сильный...И почему это Путина наделяют исключительно положительными качествами?И к вопросу "Раз ты такой умный иди и изберись президентом...",лучше не надо,все мы знаем как у нас прошлые "выборы" проходили.

[Michael_59]

Какие минусаторы статьи "забавные", все взвешенную позицию заняли, стратеги.
Вам, умным таким, всего лишь в одном повезло - что вы не там родились и жили, где сейчас фашисткий геноцид, не вам горя хлебнуть пришлось.

[-Dmitry-]

А вам плюсатору, только сидя на диване рассуждать, что там "сейчас фашисткий геноцид", и не нам "горя хлебнуть пришлось".
А слабо поехать туда и всем доказать??? Или только в диванных баталиях сильны??? Лейтенант диванных войск блин...

[Michael_59]

Я посмотрю, как вы бы закукарекали, когда в вашем дворе мины рваться начали и ваших детей осколками посекло. У нас так-то армия есть в стране, которая задачи по ликвидации военной угрозы решает на два порядка эффективней добровольцев. Что доказать-то, что нацлидер в штаны наложил и не может за свои слова ответить? Что вместо военных с армией врага должны гражданские воевать? Эмоциональный высер - это для укров. Мозги вкл. уже, там люди гибнут.

[Vadim]

Полность согласен с автором. После Крыма рейтинг Путина зашкалил. Теперь хохлы матерят его прилюдно и разводят по газу, нарушают границу и стреляют по нашим погранцам, жгут посольство, похищают и убивают журналистов, а он проявляет чудеса заподной толерантности. Депутаты наши предлагают отправлять добровольцев. А знают ли они сколько россиян уже там погибло? С чем там воевать, кто даст оружие, если Россия и в этом не может помочь Стрелкову? Добывать в бою что ли?
Путин своей уверенностью спровоцировал Донбасс встать на защиту, а теперь там гибнут наши братья, а он оружием и специалистами не может помочь. Может и Крым он забрал на время? Отсроим там все, да татарам и хохлам обратно отдадим? Может это и есть его хитрый план, в который все так верят?

[Siberian]

А где этот спровоцированный Донбасс? Шахтеры громко заявили, что через 2 (двое)суток при продолжении обстрелов сформируют 10000 добровольческую армию. Дни прошли, обстрел продолжается, 100 шахтеров пришло "в добровольцы". Остальные 9900 незаметно подкрадываются?

[-Dmitry-]

Ну может они нолик лишний написали? :)

[mixas]

А кто сказал, что не помогает? Сам лично видел армейские колонны идущие из Санкт-Петербурга по Киевскому шоссе в сторону границ, Зилы с контейнерами, что там внутри можно только догадываться, еще в ту же сторону недавно пролетал эшелон из 24 военных вертолетов. Где они кто знает?

[GRDS]

Господа , а вы не заметили , что как-то очень сильно Путина начинают толкать на ввод войск и эта истерия все сильнее нарастает?При чем все больше и больше истеричных статей, что Путин "предал" , "сдал". Пятая колонна в действии?Кому выгоден ввод войск?(Вопрос риторический.Статью не стал читать после первого абзаца.)

[valentina-makanalina]

Статья г...но.
Интересно, кто такой автор Леон?
Может он родственник Новодворской или Немцова? Так автомат ему в руки и вперед...

[Finik]

А есть ли вообще это самый "план" у Путина?

или мы сами себе его придумали

[mixas]

План Путин официально не всталяет!

[mixas]

План Путина официально не вставляет!

[Avenich]

Ровно 2 мая в Нигерии в результате теракта погибли 200 человек. Где был Путин, почему не остановил кровопролитие. Эту статью надобно на цензоре печатать, вот там-то диванные генералы на радостях такие пляски на шкуре не убитого медведя устроят, мама не горюй.

[demon184]

Не обязательно вводить войска, нужно хотя бы оружием, средствами ПВО, медикаментами и противотанковыми средствами помочь. У нас склады с просроченными боеприпасами взлетают на воздух, надо не складировать а применять, и дешевле и безопаснее.

[maxvik]

Статье минус. Чистой воды провокация. Статья написана по известным шаблонным темам, без анализа, короткими эмоциональными предложениями. Смахивает на манипуляции.

[Pnempen83]

Вводить войска или нет-не нам решать. Диванные войска в расчет не берутся. Ввод войск на территорию Украины не решает стратегическую задачу, а при выполнении тактической значительно усложняет жизнь самой России. Вы считаете, что нас там будут встречать с криками "ура" и бросать цветы на броню? Сомневаюсь. Когда с "западного фронта" пойдут "200-е", риторика диванных войск изменится с точностью до наоборот, и тогда Путин опять не прав. Следующее: ни одно государство никогда открыто не признавалось в том, что оно кому то в чем то помогает, и никогда не скажет. Ополченцы коридор держат только для вывода граждан? Или Порошенко стремится границу заткуть чтоб людей не выпускать? Подумайте на досуге. Главная задача во всем Юго-Востоке, вплоть до Одесской области. Отрезать выход к морю. И тогда само по себе даже мысль о присутствии НАТО становится... Ну вы поняли. А этого мы пока не можем сделать, нет условий.

[KG_patriot_last]

Нынешняя ситуация требует жесткого ответа. Пусть даже это усилит НАТО, ЕС, США. Но усилит и Россию в идеологическом плане.
Все равно ЕС рухнет под грузом экономических проблем и с помощью внутренних националистов-консерваторов, а также с участием мигрантов. США тоже ожидают внутренние потрясения, в течение 20-30 лет.

А это очень малый срок в исторической перспективе. Остаться к тому моменту в нынешних границах или ужаться до Московской области?

[VNP1958PVN]

Вы серьёзно считаете-что без Путина Луганск и Донецк поднялись бы?

[Vend]

А Путин и защитил. И не только народ Украины, но и народ России, не втянув в убийственную войну на радость западу.

[vovan50]

Почему Путин молчит? А ведь ларчик то просто открывается. На любые действия России запад вводит санкции. Простых людей они, практически, не касаются и даже, может быть, от них и лучше, а вот у тех, кто у власти деньги, недвижимость, дети всё за бугром. А главное бизнес налажен таким образом, что им выгоднее покупать там и продавать тут, а вот развивать производство, сельское хозяйство, науку тут у себя совсем не выгодно. Если запад перестанет поставлять продукты, придётся выращивать самим, т.е. вкладывать деньги, создавать рабочие места, тоже самое касается и пром. производства. Санкции сократят безработицу, подстегнут рост ВВП, но вот для наших аллигархов это сплошные убытки. Кто развалил Украину, почему Янукович не пошёл против запада? Это аллигархи и их деньги, деньги, деньги, которые боязно потерять. Почему правительство России боится помочь русским в Новороссии, потому, что правительство обслуживает интересы крупного бизнеса, а бизнесу деньги терять жалко, а людей русских или там ещё каких нет. Вспомните Чубайса на заре капитализма, типа кто вписался в рынок, тот и выживет, а остальным значит не судьба пережить, ну, да и бог с ними. Но рынок давно поделён между крупными международными корпорациями и конкуренты им не нужны, по этому развитие бизнеса у нас пошло не путём создания производства, а путём купи-продайства. По этому я так понимаю, что открытая помощь Новороссии пойдёт на пользу самой России и ее народу, а что аллигархи, кто не впишется, не выживут, ну так и поделом.

[Siberian]

Можно ещё всем возмущенным принять участие в помощи Новороссии прямо с дивана (отправить перевод). Не зацикливайтесь на этом материале, добро пожаловать в тему: поможем Донбассу, Новороссии

[a.hamster55]

" Будьте проще и к Вам потянуться люди ! Но хватит ли у Вас на них патронов" А всё таки думаю ,что молчание правильное -они все ждут вторжения , а тут облом. А оружие давать любыми способами И наземными и по воздуху - мало что ли грузинских трофеев осталось ...

[Bayonet]

Статье минус! Автор под ником Леон ( Лев ), очередной диванный лев-провокатор. Ну никак не получается у Госдепа втянуть Россию в кровавую мясорубку войны, даже с помощью подобных львов! И фотка какая то дебильная, к статье подошла бы другая -

[Astartes]

Не думаю что вы, уважаемый, отказались от дивана, в любом случае настроения указанные в статье присутствуют в России и называть людей их высказывающих провокаторами, просто глупо.

[mixas]

Их можно назвать недалекими людьми, не имеюших никакого понятия о международной политике.

[komrad.klim]

Статье (-)
Поднимают вой против Путина или по недоумию (ласково сказано) или провокаторы!

[rassel0889]

Уверен на 200% что те кто сейчас кричат, что надо вводить войска туда, если вдруг, что то пойдет не так при этом вводе(большие потери, ухудшения уровня жизни в связи с санкциями и т.д.) уже через месяц будут обвинять в этом Путина. Я так предполагаю, США кровь из носа, но Путина надо убрать с мировой арены, похоже к этому все и идет, если не заткнуть рот нашей 5 колоне.

[Tomich2]

обвинять кого то во всех своих бедах, Путин никому ничего не должен, что ж вы молчали когда майданутые собирались а вы молча смотрели на захват власти, хватит уже во все м обвинять Россию. А почему например Лукашенко не введет войска? Слабо?

[Palladium900]

А почему например Лукашенко не введет войска?

Отличный вопрос. А ещё интересно, есть ли на Донбассе хоть один отряд состоящий из РУССКИХ националистов, тех, что "зигуют" на РУССКИХ маршах? Ведь по идее они же за РУССКИХ?

[leon7591]

Хороший вопрос, Palladium900! Но скорее всего их там нет! Они же тоже - фашисты, хотя вру. Был репортаж, показали наших нацистов, но они "перенимали опыт на майдане" у укрофашистов! Думаю, если они там и есть, то наверняка на стороне правосеков! Фашист, он и в Африке фашист!

[leon7591]

Хороший вопрос, Palladium900! Но скорее всего их там нет! Они же тоже - фашисты, хотя вру. Был репортаж, показали наших нацистов, но они "перенимали опыт на майдане" у укрофашистов! Думаю, если они там и есть, то наверняка на стороне правосеков! Фашист, он и в Африке фашист!

[flSergius]

Так у нас и весь данный сайт за русских и Донбасс. Но до сих пор не там по тем-же причинам: реальной (боевой а не уличной) подготовки нет, кому-то здоровье не позволяет, работу не бросишь, семью тем более, ЮВ не курорт, чтобы купить билет, наушники в уши и тебя туда фирма везёт.

[Kir]

Только вот "русские" надо заковычить!, уже здесь не однократно указывал на сомнительную русскость сия ......, достаточно внимательно посмотреть на символику и как говориться вопрос о принадлежности отпадёт сам собой
1 На заднем фоне чёрный флаг с "чёрным солнцем"
2 Не так уж и редко оне согласно надевать ремни с бляхами гитлер юргент и сс
3 часто чуть ли не боготворят вонюче британию
4 уличные бойцы с нашивкой "уличный боец" набраны готическим шрифтом, да и само название набрано на англицком диалекте
5 клички вожаков часто скажем так "истинно Русские"
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Единственная сила это были ФНПР и РНЕ, что с ними ныне?, ах да есть ещё казаки, часть из них это хоть и частично новоявленные, Но Казаки, другая только в кавычках!!! Кстати РНЕ в лице своих Людей присутствовала и в Югославии, да и в других местах!!!

[Ivan 63]

Что ни скажи, а "перестройка" принесла плоды, правда только не нам.

[222222]

Quote: Angro Magno

Everyone hopes.
And Putin must hope that he has a plan. And then people can be upset.

"Многие лета - тем, кто поет во сне.
Все части света могут лежать на дне,
Все континенты могут гореть в огне,
Только все это не по мне.

Но парус! Порвали парус!
Каюсь, каюсь, каюсь... "
Самый вероятный вариант -вариант СФРЮ....только без американских демократизаторов и натовских сапогОВ..

[karal]

И чего же нам теперь бояться,

Войны, брат, войны! Все поляжем, а жить ещё хочется!

[Vardan]

Когда всё это закончиться одному из народов будет очень стыдно, очень стыдно от того что велись на провокации, хавали фейки тоннами и стали марионетками в игре навязанной 2м славянским народам абсолютно чуждой для нас идеологией.
Когда закончиться этот угар и братья протрезвеют - Мы поймём их и простим, простим потому что мы один народ.

[Andrew K]

Уважаемый автор думаю вы слишком эмоциональны. И это естественно, когда нам каждый день показывают по тв сцены с убитыми мирными жителями, беженцами и т.д. Я, также как и вы, думал что Путин делает недостаточно для Новороссии. Может быть итак, но у меня появились сомнения. Уверен, все депутаты, даже наш президент, осознают настроения людей. В том что оказывается некая нелегальная помощь,думаю тут ни у кого сомнений нет: это и помощь с беженцами, и гуманитарная, и добровольческие отряды. Если вы заметили, последнее время представители ДНР и ЛНР часто бывают в Москве, даже создали представительство при РФ. Думаю, если бы они сомневались в помощи России, вряд ли бы пошли на такие шаги. Наши депутаты откровенно заявляют, что нельзя допустить чтобы Новороссия пала. Если вы их послушаете, то они прекрасно понимают последствия всего этого. Недавно даже оговорились о некой гос.тайне, окутанной вокруг происходящего на Украине.
Здесь было много статей на подобную тематику с рассуждениями и выводами. И большинство из них написано умными людьми и имеют право претендовать на правдивость и логичность. Но, уверен, мы видим лишь "верхушку айсберга". И то что происходит за кулисами политики мы можем лишь предполагать. Поэтому думаю не стоит судить о поступках президента сейчас. Ведь военные действия еще не закончились, никто никого пока не слил, и как будут дальше развиваться события нам неведомо.

[Svetovod]

Наверно дело в забугорной собственности. Не хочется всего лишаться из-за какой-то кучки русских в Новоросии. Дилемка.

[Magadan]

это уже ежу понятно.
Проблема в том, что наши граждане этого никак понять не могут. Они все ассоциируют всю власть и всех при власти с Путиным, Шойгу, Рогозиным и Лавровым. Т.е. с теми к кому никаких вопросов в плане патриотизма нет.
Как жестоко вы ошибаетесь, не признавая явления подковерных войн и вредителей. Думаете зря в свое время Сталин чистки делал? И зачем он их делал, если вредителей не было?

[Magadan]

И я нашим непротивленцам пожелаю "чистой совести", если по вине таких как они, не будет создано надлежащее давление российского народа на власть с целью ввода войск!

Повторюсь - давить на Путина, чтобы тот ввел войска, еще не значит сам ввод войск. НО это однозначно означает всемерную поддержку нашему Президенту, если такое решение ему придется принять. И с точностью до наоборот. Не будет давления, а будет "пусть-шахтеры-воюют-сами", то слив Новоросии через тайные сговоры неизбежен! Как это случилось с Югославией. Забыли уже про черномырдинский слив?
Давайте, толстовцы-непротивленцы. Творите свое иудино дело.

[Criowoolf]

1.Статью писал подросток.
2.Статью писал взрослый человек,но недалекого ума.
3.Статья заказная.
Итог:Большой и жирный минус.Автору побольше мозгов.
А если честно,уже достали такие люди,которые считают себя самыми умными.И президент плохой,и страна не страна,и армия бездействует и все у них плохо,все кругом дураки,он один молодец-удалец.

[saag]

"..А лидер ещё и отмалчивается… "

А лидер озвучивает не свою позицию, а олигархии, ее нет, вот и нечего озвучивать

[Nitarius]

ОРУЖИЕ ПУТИНА- ЭТО ВРЕМЯ! которое ОН ДАЕТ НАРОДУ УКРАИНЫ ПОНЯТЬ , что РОССИЯ НЕ -ВРАГ УКРАИНЕ! а мать РОДНАЯ которая ЗА НЕЁ ГЛОТКУ ПОРВЕТ!
чтобы ОНИ ПОНЯЛИ, КТО ПРИШЕЛ К ВЛАСТИ И КАКИМ ПУТЕМ!
и ТОГО ЛИ ОНИ ХОТЕЛИ ??? видя себя в ЕВРОПЕ!

[Khalmamed]

Quote: demon184

Who is the world community, the USA and their six or what?

.....печально, за РУССОВ!, ВВП сразу обвинили за всё.
.....обитель и "черная дыра" зла сшастан и станистыеврогецы-руководство знают, они все марионетки в руках куда крутых.
.....нечисть хочет что бы ЖИТЕЛИ свинарника европа ПОНЯЛИ что жить за счёт бед других это хорошо, а как жизнь показывает что там тоже не все отупели.
.....как показала история верхушка нечисти ОЧЕНЬ СИЛЬНО боится НОРОДНО ОСВОБОДИТЕЛЬНОГО ДВИЖЕНИЯ (пример Индия, когда годами Ганди "пел хали гари", а потом в ОДИН ДЕНЬ Индусы послали англосакосв).

.....на скудоумииИЕВ РУССОВ на БРАТОУБИЙСТВЕННУЮ бойню гонят нечестивые и нечисть со всего мира съехалась помогать.
.....по всей видимости МЫ сейчас ВИДИМ первые разделы Плана ВВП:
контракты Китай, Корея, Япония все минуя зелень в рублях
что то (отдельные моменты) в Ираке
в Европе (отдельные моменты)
.....КАРТИНА ЦЕЛОГО в Голове ВВП, надо ждать, ОН не несёт отвественности, почему Абхазы и Осетины с 1993 годов ПРОСЯТСЯ в РОССИЮ, а РУССЫ не хотели?.

[-Dmitry-]

Автор жирный тролль и провокатор. Судя по обилию таких вот статей, я начинаю уже верить в то, что такие тролли и провокаторы получают бабки за это - такие статьи 100% собирают много комментариев и вываливаются в топ обсуждаемых тем.

А тем кто тупо ведется на такие призывы, призываю подумать головой (есть голова то на плечах нет?). Если голова на плечах есть, то я задам несколько вопросов:
1) Стрелков чуть-ли не с самого начала карательной операции пишет, что оружия мало, людей не хватает, вот-вот наступит "карачун". Не поленитесь, поднимите архив, сколько таких вот интервью уже было?
2)Однако, ополченцы умудряются сбивать самолеты и вертолеты. Отражать атаки укропов с танками. Скажите откуда все это взялось? Если Стрелков регулярно пишет про то, как всего мало?? Откуда у них обученные операторы ПЗРК и ПТУР?? Не говоря уже про такое количество РПГ.
3)Откуда в Луганской области появилась куча танков Т-64??? Вдруг ниоткуда? Бог услышал и материализовал типа "брошенную танковую часть"?? Или все-таки возможно эти танки материализовались из Крыма?
4) почему Стрелков во всех своих интервью пишет, что помощи от России нет, оружия нет, однако предостерегает таких вот "афтарофф" от того, чтобы они использовали свои высказывания против руководства России???? Не потому ли, что все таки помощь от России идет, с весьма определенной оговоркой?
5) ну и наконец готовы ли вы воевать не виртуально, а реально? Чтобы то, что сейчас происходит на Украине пришло в Россию?

Ну и тезисно - вспомните 2010-2011 годы - перед олимпиадой в Сочи, сколько было сарказма, сколько желчи вылито по этому поводу. Зато когда Олимпиада прошла все довольны, все рады и никто не вспоминает море гавна вылитого на просторы рунета по этому поводу.

[yana532912]

Да что это такое? На всех сайтах воинственный патриотизм. Вроде как договариваться начали, откуда все это? Может чей-то заказ? В.В.Путин слишком долго думает? Не надо нагнетать истерию. А то все стратеги и тактики. Хватит призывов к войне.

[northern]

Опять нашлись те, кто владеет ситуацией лучше президента/главнокомандующего.

[PATTIY]

" .. Уже вся Россия в недоумении: ждет, как поступит ее лидер. Когда же он начнет действовать, а не говорить правильные фразы? А лидер ещё и отмалчивается… Это уже даже не смешно. Но ни отмолчаться, ни отсидеться за кремлевской стеной не получится! Война уже у нашего порога .."
Вы*сЭр 5-колонновский, так топорно подстрекать к войне!

[Criowoolf]

Посмотрите какая пропаганда пошла в интернете,особенно на крупных ресурсах.Пишут что президент предатель,вор,трус и.т.п вещи.Думаю не просто так,кто-то в поте лица отрабатывает:)

[Cheldon]

Ну чё вы пристали к Путину. Ему и самому страшно. И все никак не может понять почему он разогнал армию, а оставил только ВВ. Предполагалось воевать с собственным народом. а тут откуда не возьмись враг внешний и откуда - подлянка от партнеров.

[P-38]

Примитивно пишете, "челдон". Если зарабатываете наездами на Путина, старайтесь делать это как-то убедительнее. А то дешёвкой несёт за версту.

[P-38]

У меня странное ощущение. Такое, что сейчас Путин находится в положении Ленина, подписавшего "похабный", как он сам говорил, Брестский мир с Германией. А вот когда в Германии началась революция, Ленин этот договор просто порвал. Путин ничего не подписывал, но, скорее всего, у него похожая ситуация. Вмешаться по-серьёзному он сейчас не может. Но время придёт - вмешается, и так вмешается, что у нас ЕС в ногах валяться будет. По крайней мере очень хочется, чтобы так было

[flSergius]

Quote: sibi

У ВВП есть конкретный план-

I believe in the honesty of the president
И неподкупность постовых,
To take care of the bank for its clients,
I believe in mermaids, in brownies ...

У путина несомненно есть план - он умнейший стратег и политик. Вопрос что подразумевает этот план - выгоду России или выгоду себя любимого Путина.
Единственное, что меня сдерживает от потока гневных комментариев в сторону Путина - идея не подтверждать в головах простых украинцев и солдат-призывников взращиваемую идею настоящей войны с Россией. На одних удобрениях но без грунта она зачахнет и хунте боком выйдет. И идея сохранения единой Украины путём непротивопоставления "своего" ЮВ и всей остальной. Лучше в будущем дождатся экономического и социального коллапса и руками самих же украинцев отбросить гнилой нарост - галитчину. Но стоят ли эти туманные перспективы гибнущих сегодня ополченцев?

Quote: sibi

Our guys should not die in THEIR war.
What will you say when the coffins of our soldiers go to Russia?
Will Putin be guilty again?
Why should our children give their lives for someone else?
You do not have enough Afghan?

Какой афган? Все самые агрессивные майданутые и все укрские ржавые броневёдра сконцентрированы на ЮВ, их сейчас можно всех одним разом окружить и перебить. Ну может это просчитано госдепом и будет пирровой победой - науськают каких-нибудь наёмников, как в Сирии, или устроят сложную провокацию, оправдывающую полномасштабную войну запада против России. И как в обе мировые войны этой войной выкосят лучшую часть русских мужчин. И якобы в Кремле эти планы знают, а мы нет. Но как я писал выше верить в это хочу, но получается с трудом.

[Chiropractor]

Никогда не говорите за "миллионы" других, если вас не уполномочили. И еще - никогда не оценивайте работу другого, если в этом не ваша работа. Говорите за себя, не обобщайте, иначе это просто манипуляция. Оценивайте свою работу, свои поступки - лишь в этом случае у вас есть ПОЧТИ вся инфа.
Статья полна "праведного гнева", но кроме эмоция - ничего. да и припоздала...

[flSergius]

С идеей полностью согласен, но как конечному потребителю работы главы государства, хотелось бы услышать хоть какие комментарии в процессе работы, а то у меня всё больше сомнений в конечном результате. Если этот хитрый план всё-же есть, почему бы не прекратить кошмарить народ, и слить через какое не слишком официальное СМИ хотя-бы наброски.

[flSergius]

Quote: GRDS

Господа , а вы не заметили , что как-то очень сильно Путина начинают толкать на ввод войск ......Кому выгоден ввод войск?

Господа, а вы заметили, что как-то очень сильно нас убеждают, что чуть приостановившийся только сегодня утром русоцид это часть сверххитрого плана. Прям "Совокупность лжи" отдыхает. Много кому выгоден, но в первую очередь ребятам, гибнущим в боях с бандерлогами и семьям, теряющим всё нажитое годами от одного выстрела укроповской артиллерии.

[Baloo]

Автору за провокационный пост минус. очень легко рассуждать не имея всей объективной информации

[ivan.kormoran]

Очередной провокатор кнопкодав напечатал сию позорную статейку. А сам то что кроме ударов наманикюреных пальцев сделал?
Предлагаешь нашему президенту солдат на убой послать и иметь очередной повод попечатать попивая пивко?
Хрен тебе провокатор.
Спасибо за выдержку Президенту, спасибо за сохранённых детей.
Автор сей статейки мечтаем подискутировать, а не пробовал мат.помощь собрать и отправить на Юго Восток?
Или перебраться ближе к границе и помогать беженцам? Слабо?
Этот очередной провокатор из 0,000000% жителей Российской Федерации, так называемая 5 колонна. им обидно что им не дают воровать и обманывать, а такими провокациями разогревают народ на глупости И на этом греют лапы.
Отзови статейку.

[Grandfather Victor]

Самый детальный анализ ситуации и ожидаемого её развития сделан советником Президента С. Глазьевым. Не надо истерить, читайте и анализируйте!

[rennim]

Надо понимать что Россия не может открыто с оружием в руках выступить...пусть и с благородной миссией защиты русского населения.Этого только и ждут наши недоброжелатели. В т.ч. внутри страны.Для ввода войск нужна объективная причина по защите граждан имеющих гражданство РФ.С Ю.Осетией были миротворческие силы которые надо было защитить. В Крыму как причина могла быть защита имущества базы ЧФ и служащих.К сожалению у РФ много врагов и слабая сырьевая не самодостаточная экономика.

[Lukich]

пока шахтёры по шахтам олигархов кормят
http://gorod48.ru/news/249870/

[Free Island]

автора поддерживаю полностью. Такого унижения Россия не видела со времен алкаша и проститутки Ельцина БОриски....

[Free Island]

и, кстати, еще один не приятный момент - совет гейропы уже отправляет в Украину свою полицейскую миссию, так и до ввода НАТО не далеко а наши все требуют, доказывают, ватники. реально ватники. соплежуи.