Are law-pages ready to block American, but not ready to block Russian IT companies?

Recently, Roskomnadzor has repeatedly expressed concern about the sprawling Right Sector accounts on social networks. Mainly, we are talking about the Twitter microblogging service, owned by the American company Twitter Inc. The management of the company was asked to block the accounts of an organization that is recognized as extremist in Russia. And on Twitter Inc. decided to accept the proposals of Roskomnadzor. Reports about it NTV.

It is particularly noted that we are talking about removing not only the Russian-speaking microblogging “Right Sector”, but also versions in other languages.
Interfax reports that the removal in the near future will affect about a dozen accounts of the "Right Sector" on Twitter.

The decision to block the pages of "pravosekov" by representatives of the American company was taken after they were reminded of the law in Russia on the pre-trial blocking of sites containing extremist content.

At the same time, the Russian Vkontakte network and a number of other social networks are not eager to block the extremist PS pages. Apparently, the leadership of these Internet companies forgets the above mentioned law in the Russian Federation.

Some of our readers say in comments that the Vkontakte network has blocked PS accounts, but this is not true. In order not to create advertisements for extremist pages, VO does not provide links to numerous existing accounts and PS groups in the mentioned social network. And there are dozens of active pages!

Comments

[vorobey]

maybe not the pages need to be blocked but the heads of the right-wingers themselves?

[comprochikos]

That's right, not to block the pages, but the right-wingers themselves, somewhere in Magadan or in Kolyma.

[Predator]

Well, it’s not realistic yet. They’ll block them into other resources, you won’t block the entire network. You just don’t have to pay attention to them, that is, let them talk to themselves, at least howl, even jump!

[sssss018]

In the uranium mines!

[anfil]

What have the inhabitants of Magadan and Kolyma done to you ?!

[andrei332809]

oh well, it will be boring ... where else can there be so many morons at the same time?

[tchoni]

And I always said: either Yanikevich will make the Maidan-Magadan train or the Maidan will make it.

[Skif83]

And on h.rena such expenses? Just amputate and all things ... :)

[Lord of the Sith]

“I confirm the delivery to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk of cargo from the Public Movement“ Battle for Donbass ”and the Internet publication“ Evil Russians ”):
- thermal imagers Pulsar HD38S - 10 pcs. (+ to them the external power source EPS3 - 10 pcs.)
- binoculars Pulsar Expert LRF 8x40 - 10 pcs.
- sniper suits WOOD GHILLIE - 6 pcs.
- Headsets for radios - 27 pcs.
- different backpacks - 3 pcs.
- makeup 4-x color. ACU / ABU for snipers - 2 pcs.
- sleeping mats for snipers - 8 pcs.
- steel helmet, manufactured in the USSR - 200 pcs.
- camouflage suits "Birch" - 200 pcs.
- automatic horns - 500 pcs.
On my own behalf and on behalf of the Militia of the DPR, deep gratitude and a deep bow! Also in the dispatch and delivery of cargo participated "Special Forces Strelkov" (and personally Comrade Snake). "

[Predator]

Well, that was already! Taken note of and with joy.

[Siberian]

With the World on a thread, something is being dialed. At least a little, but still.

[armageddon]

Hmm ... Well, to judge ... What is the problem ... Let them sit ... THINK !!!

[Vita_vko]

In 99,9% of cases, all these pages with "Right Sector" and other pro-fascist associations are financed by hundreds of NGOs that receive money from funds such as USAID, Freedom House, Heritage Foundation, Hudson Institute. It is clear that the task of these funds is to conduct subversive activities and finance the work of CIA agents, which often goes beyond the laws of the United States and generally beyond the moral standards of mankind. Therefore, before trying to deal with the consequences in social networks, it is advisable for the special services to find out the funding channels for the "animals" that these fascist pages create and participate in their distribution. Better yet, collect evidence to accuse these foundations of crimes against humanity, financing of terrorism and fascism.

[Rom14]

Special services are not up to the machinations of fascism, they (special services) seem to have global tasks ... It is much simpler, without straining to close the bastard's page. No, we now have the KGB.

[huut]

Quote: Armagedon

Hmm ...

Armageddon, be kind, stop flooding and write caps through the word. The format of all your comments in each topic is "Hmm ... [NULL empty NULL]".
At least sometimes let it be constructive, and then only exclamations. Other people's interesting thoughts are drowning in such a swamp. I will not say anything about the "golden silence")

[herruvim]

After such exercises in the heads of the members of the "Right Sector" there is nothing to block

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I wish I could deliver the Iskander missile to Mount Karachun under its own power .. (so that everyone would come there) ... Oh, dreams ..))))

[AVV]

Then you need to block the VKontakte network itself, then it will move quickly !!! And then they don’t understand in Russian !!! You need to knock the wedge out with a wedge !!!

[nikolaev]

Mother! Unite! Fight for the life of your sons!
Take them out of the Ukrainian army!
They will die there for the interests of the oligarchs and the United States, killing their compatriots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaV0yPnQuNE

[huut]

It is strange that the head of Roskomnadzor gives dubious info on the air:

Twitter has denied account blocking information at the request of Roskomnadzor

http://www.interfax.ru/world/382260

And you say that the media are lying. Everyone lies.

[moremansf]

Well, at least so !!!!

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: moremansf

Well, at least so !!!!

Better this way...
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[Dmitry Toderes]

And so it will be. Russia is reborn, and Ukraine is degrading. It is obvious.

[Egoza]

Quote: Dmitry Toderese

And so it will be. Russia is reborn, and Ukraine is degrading.

Well, why block them, it is very necessary to collect information about them, who said what, wrote, and then they will get away "We did not know." Let it be for now, or take screenshots, and then delete. However, there is a tendency - as soon as they are involved in something at the local level, they delete their contacts themselves. And when they are sent to Yu-V - too. So you have to wait with full blocking.

[Uncle]

Is this "Right Sector" in the photo? Masquerade of some kind, like from Hollywood films about the end of the world, "Water World", "Mad Max".

[nikrandel]

That's right, there is nothing to breed dirt on the network.
For Twitter, this is a matter of prestige, not otherwise.

[alekc73]

These are all feints. At first they financed, prepared, set off on the Russians. Now they supposedly block sites.

[KazaK Bo]

These are all feints. At first they financed, prepared, set off on the Russians. Now they supposedly block sites.

That's right! BLOCKED ... BUT YOURS! NOW Americans will trumpet all over the world ... "IN! What we are! We are fighting extremism! But the Russians are not!"
Here are just FIRST NECESSARY TO SEE ALL OWNERS OF THESE "RUSSIAN" SITES AND FIND OUT WHERE THEIR SERVERS ARE LOCATED !!!
But the servers are not in Russia ... and not all shares belong to the Russians! ABOUT THIS, Americans WILL NEVER SAY PUBLICLY!
That's the whole story ... about the fight against extremism!

[zao74]

Well, yes, again the "fifth column" is moving.

[Dmitry Toderes]

Ay, ah, how categorical we are. It was necessary to check first, and not to fence emotional nonsense. I checked: "VKontakte" is completely Russian. VK servers are Russian.

[Dmitry Toderes]

Look at the two screenshots: On one IP of this server. The VKontakte server is called vc.com; on another physical location of the server - St. Petersburg. All of this is done using publicly available online services. You need to know how to use the Internet, and not shout with guesses. The Internet is a double-edged sword - the Americans do not control it, it cannot be controlled in theory: you can get into their servers and break everything there. The Internet gives everyone equal opportunities and vulnerabilities. Those states that want - can limit it - for example, China, North Korea. But the inhabitants of these countries also lose some opportunities. There are also servers on the territory of Russia that are involved in maintaining traffic on the Global Network - of course, there are such servers in America, but the whole joke is that the Internet is interconnected - this is a single mechanism, disruption of the operation of such servers will inevitably lead to malfunction the whole Network - and again a double-edged sword, as in the case of wiretapping - one intelligence agency bugs, but any other can. The only question is whether this special service needs to spend such huge funds. By the way, Putin said: Russian special services also listen to the Internet, but not as massively as American ones.

[Giant thought]

It is necessary to remind the most forgetful about the observance of the laws of the Russian Federation, otherwise, according to the law and generally the shop can be covered, this applies to you, gentlemen, the fifth column.

[soldier]

I need to wage war in all directions

[MVolkov1203]

Checked now in contact the first 5 groups called the Right Sector - all are blocked. So this is incorrect information

[Christina]

If so, then very good. And then I was already going to self-seeking to find these VK pages and angrily complain to the social network administration. It was not enough for the Ukronazists to completely completely brainwash our youth

[makano]

Here is one of them, from the right sectors https://vk.com/w8tan?w=wall-57081295_84972
So they chase and kill, and people disappear without a trace

[figter]

Nothing is blocked there, at 16.45 o'clock on 23.06.2014/1835/570 everything works. Check, for example, the group "Glory to Ukraine". Yes, there are 94 people in it, including only 44 people from Russia, of which 14 are from Moscow, 24 are from St. Petersburg, and XNUMX are from Lugansk, and XNUMX are from Donetsk. Our media did not care about the laws. They only remember them when their colleagues in Ukraine are killed.

[figter]

The main group on VKontakte, which first of all needs to be blocked, is Radio Liberty. This is an American CIA development, created for the collapse of the USSR from our dissidents expelled from the country. Now it is transmitting information for the fifth column ( 20 630 VKontakte members from Russia) And Ukrainian pages on social networks are more humorous and stupid than serious for perception, like “Who didn't jump - that M .... eh!” It's funny to read.

[Drednout]

Quote: MVolkov1203

Checked now in contact the first 5 groups called Right Sector

Check out the UNA-UNSO groups.

[Christina]

Guys, this is what I propose on this issue. Throw links to the pages of the right sector and others like him in VK here, in this thread. Let's write together to the admins of VK to cover them nafig! With the world by the strings, as they say, together we will crush these freaks in at least one separately taken social network! The same can be organized in other social networks, I think
By the way, please write how to send a complaint to the group?

[ioann1]

There is a law prohibiting the propaganda of extremism, but not all officials believe that this evil must be combated effectively and efficiently, which is very important at the present stage!

[mig31]

Sow fascism in the net in order to grow in Russia!?, In fact - a textbook, close everything and leave it only for special services ...

[2224460]

Pravosekov should be blocked both "in the tail and in the mane"

[gingerbread man 59]

great! no words, better not say.

[podpolkovnik]

It would be more obvious:
Tired, out of breath, homosexual fell ...
With a smile, Pravosek climbed on him!

[Veteran of the Red Army]

At the same time, the Russian Vkontakte network and a number of other social networks are not eager to block the extremist PS pages. Apparently, the leadership of these Internet companies forgets the above mentioned law in the Russian Federation.

It is not they who forget. This is for law enforcement memory and vision "GREEN" knocks off.

[MSA]

In my opinion, you need to cut it all in the bud !!!

[Vend]

This is the right decision. Too much has bred about the American-minded and narrow-minded Russophobia.

[Dmitry Toderes]

It hasn't bred. In Russia, on the contrary, there are fewer such. I read on this site a confession of one of the Kievites - all oppositions, including the network ones, are at least half of Ukrainians. To a fig of these idiots and on the "echo of Moscow". Sometimes they fly to Lenta.ru (but it has changed a lot - most of them are now patriots and urapatriots - because the comments on the articles have changed a lot, I even began to like the site a little (well, it's still better than a stream of curses to Russia). pay attention - what kind of atmosphere do you feel?

A link to an article on this site: "Revelations of the Kiev intelligentsia awakened from drug intoxication" There are words in this article (about Ukrainians), a quote: "This is our national fun: to register under the" Vanka "and write something like that. Putin brought the country to the edge, there is no more life, poverty and hopelessness. After all, we cannot pass by without groaning something that may be useful or pleasant to the Russians. "


http://topwar.ru/52612-otkroveniya-prosnuvsheysya-ot-narkoticheskogo-durmana-kie
vskoy-intelligencii.html

Screenshot from "Ribbon"

[Sterlya]

So it is necessary to convey the laws through the pockets and Magadan. Only then it will work

[alex-defensor]

Obviously, the so-called West will have to recognize the ugly reality in Ukraine. It would not hurt to recall how things were with the war of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. Then, too, slops were poured on Russia, but later they were forced to admit that the aggressor was Mr. Sahak, a US protege.

[0255]

Quote: alex-defensor

Obviously, the so-called West will have to recognize the ugly reality in Ukraine. It would not hurt to recall how things were with the war of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. Then, too, slops were poured on Russia, but later they were forced to admit that the aggressor was Mr. Sahak, a US protege.

but the point is that Mishiko recognized the aggressor? Is he in jail on the verdict of the Hague tribunal?

[Russ69]

The VK administration is generally a bunch of liberals. It’s high time to put things in order there and tough ...

[VNP1958PVN]

So Russians always harness for a long time! Or maybe from "from pravosekov no commands have been received?

[VOLCHOXURAL]

Defend the star! -
http://www.onlinepetition.ru/sign.php?pUrl=отменить-введение-н

[Maks-80]

By court order, let them block. For failure to comply with a court decision, let the VKontakte network be disconnected until the court decision is enforced. Nothing to babysit with them.

[evilrussian]

We must block them. The main thing is competently. At the same time, the sites / pages of our Natsiks would also do well to cover up.
For example, start with Echo of Moscow.

[Cossack Ermak]

No need to block anything !!!! Internet freedom! The secret services are too lazy to do their job. It is much easier to block that something than to educate a thinking person who needs to hell with enemy propaganda.

[Christina]

Everything in the complex should be. Be sure to block! The page of extremists on social networks is not the same as the page of those who like to embroider with a cross, you must agree. Children and adolescents can visit their page, think about how easy it is to tune them to the "necessary wave", taking into account child psychology, suggestibility, and a desire for rebellion. God forbid

[Sergei75]

This is called the information war, we lost the first round (the collapse of the CMEA), the second round we leaked the same (the collapse of the USSR), now the third round is probably the final, as we play up to 3 points. I hope inappropriately to explain what is at stake?

[Signaller]

Well then. Here the supporters of Navalny will trample. Type freedom- (you will be met joyfully at the entrance to the bullpen) - above all. Although this person is a thief specific, but still there. Give freedom.

[azbukin77]

They need to be blocked not in the net but near Lugansk and should not be taken prisoner poor, there is nothing to babysit with shit!

[northern]

And what's the point in the Russian Federation to block the pages of law-breakers? This is not Ukraine, this nonsense does not affect anyone.

[Black]

It’s you, a fellow countryman, in vain ... The Maidan of the brain is like syphilis ... with whom you will lead, you will get sick from that. And judging by the results of the same exam in Russian, in mathematics, our youth is like a sheet of clean paper, and you should write what you want !!!!

[Egoza]

Quote: Chen

The Maidan of the brain is like syphilis ... with whom you lead, you will get sick from that.

That's for sure. A little off topic, but true!
"Odessa citizen, shouting" Glory to the Heroes! ", Threw his grandmother out of the window. VIDEO
42-year-old Odessa resident threw his own grandmother from a third-floor window, and then barricaded himself in the apartment, refusing to surrender to the police. As it became known, the man was not an alcoholic, drug addict and did not suffer from mental disorders. He found insanity after parting with his lover, with whom he lived for 12 years ....
He stopped going to work, although before that he worked as an electrician. They spent time together, but did not drink, they did not seem to take drugs. I noticed changes in my son’s behavior right away - he began to listen to some voices ... I think it was a sect, ”his mother believes.

Note that the man for a long time refused to leave the apartment for a long time, barricaded the entrance to it, and even shouted pro-slogans like “Glory to Ukraine!” From the balcony to passers-by and the press. Glory to the heroes! ”, As well as praise to the“ 5 channel ”. Subsequently, law enforcement officers forced him out of the house and took him away.
Fortunately, the thrown grandmother survived and was taken from the scene by an ambulance.
Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-148313.html

This is what propaganda brings to TV. I suppose there will be many such cases in the future.

[northern]

If you began to hear voices, then this is not a sect but a squirrel.

[northern]

I judge by myself and my environment - it doesn’t affect anyone, well, nothing at all.

[Stypor23]

The meaning is, it’s like AIDS, you’ll put it in the wrong place and die. Positions of 5 columns in the Russian Federation are even stronger.
As a result of a break, they gave the smell of freedom and the country died. It’s imperative to block it, this nonsense will affect anyone and perhaps a new hot spot will appear inside the country, to the delight of the partners, as the president puts it.

[bedniyyorik]

there is no right sector in contact, well, or did not find it))

[vpp66]

There is a law, they must block If they violate, then punish. And even better, to the "pravosek" themselves to twist the heads.

[kds77]

It is necessary to block. Otherwise, after ... twenty years a generation of zombie amoebas will grow up but already in Russia. It all starts online with brainwashing and gathering in flocks.

[Front Night]

the pages are definitely blocked))) I confirm

[sever.56]

The Fifth Column in action. To punish the owners of such networks in the most cruel way!

[varela]

In fact, these bitchy patchbags, who beat out a lot of purely Russian publics and VK groups with their highs, were really stunned!
And admins almost like one endure everything, reacting only to those who are completely unbelievable, and to mass complaints of subscribers.
And these creatures arrange eternal nerves, provoke abuse and discord.
Moreover, on their hohlyatskih pages, for an innocent question, for an attempt to simply communicate, they are immediately branded "mosk * l" and in the BAN!

[radar1967]

These pages very much help our special services to track the activity of these naive terrorists. And the US is trying to block us this way ...

[nils]

The federal list of extremist materials is formed on the basis of Federal Law No. 25.07.2002-FZ of 114 “On Counteracting Extremist Activity” and copies of court decisions that have entered into legal force on the recognition of information materials as extremist.
Apparently, prososeki and porn sites do not constitute a danger to a group of persons with power in Russia and those behind them.
Danger represent:
- Information materials - responses to materials on the events in Kharagun on the site "People’s Control"
- Brochure "Russian State", author - VA Vostryagov
- Brochure "Paganism: Sunset and Dawn", author Dobrovolsky A.A.
- Newspaper Izhevsk Division No. 2,3,4,5 - Newspaper of the Russian Prikamye
- Materials published in the newspaper "For Russia!" Editor and publisher S. Putintsev
- Printed material “Our People’s Observer” of Izhevsk from 05.10.2007.
- Printed material "Russian phalanx" of the city of Izhevsk.
- A leaflet with the headline "Dear Countrymen!", The city of Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk.
- The poem "Miracle-Yuda" signed by "Nikolai Fedorov"
- The film "Russia with a knife in the back. Jewish fascism and genocide of the Russian people "
- A campaign leaflet titled “Elections - a Jewish weapon of seizing power!”
- The number of the newspaper "Evpatiy Kolovrat" No. 45 for January-February 2006 of the year
- Number of the newspaper “I am Russian” No. 5, 6, 12, 13 for 2003 year
- Book of Okorokov A.V. "Fascism and Russian emigration"
- Information materials of the book of George Butmi "bondage or freedom",
- The newspaper "Russian Transbaikalia" No. 2 (19) of February 22 2008.
- The article "The Prophecy of the Great Elder" published in the newspaper "Beloved Novosibirsk" No. 21, October 2006
- Leaflet “Appeal to the people of Russia of true patriots of the Fatherland”, distributed on April 2 2006 in Biysk
- Brochure A.N. Ignatiev "The Fifth Column"
etc., etc., etc., etc.

[Dmitry Toderes]

By the way about "VKontakte". And he, by the way, in the section "articles" does not give links to liberal sites - it means that the administration of "VKontakte" does not support liberalism. The sites are mostly either government or patriotic. Or is it all individual?

[Dmitry Toderes]

Want to know the position of Moscow? Read ITAR-TASS. ITAR-TASS - spokesman for the official position of the Kremlin. This is me note.

[BOB044]

Right-wingers need to chop off their legs to the ears.

[pvv113]

Pravoseki like bugs climb into all the cracks. They are blocked, and they enter under a different name. Even in the VO, the right-secose one-day trolls repeatedly appeared. The only solution suggested above is to block them in specially designated places beyond the Arctic Circle. Let polar bears learn to ride - they are not moskakli

[Leonidych]

so on these sites it’s so foolish to scold and spread rot of these piss-bearers, they start to sprinkle with saliva from anger when you tell them the whole truth about them ....

[Grande_amigo]

I don’t know about you, but I don’t confuse the concepts: Maidan, Bender, fascism, nationalism in one heap. I hope that you, dear ones, also have enough brains to see the difference between them ... And since the word fascism is now bogged down for some, I will allow myself to ask, what is so bad about nationalism? In Russian, uniting all Slavs, nationalism?

[Dmitry Toderes]

And the fact that a significant part of Russia is not ethnically Russian and not Slavs. They are Russian speakers, but still. We must understand that the state inside the country should have a social policy, not a nationalist one. Yes, many Yakuts or Tatars consider themselves Russian, but do not go too far — not all of them consider themselves Russian, but want to be and are national minorities. In Ukraine, all this began as a national revolution, and what did it ultimately lead to? You see. Western and central Ukrainians consider themselves to be Ukrainians, and the Southeast and Southern population are Russians. Ukraine began to pursue a nationalist policy and eventually fell apart. In France, by the way, socialists rule (ruled?), Only Hollande went too far with LGBT and multiculturalism.

[Grande_amigo]

Well, you know ... so far the bulk of Russia is the Slavs. So it was, is and I hope it will be! For if our Slavic ethno-foundation collapses, it will be, sorry, not Mother Russia, but I just don’t know what ...
Small-town nationalism developed in Ukraine, their supposedly national revolution is simply small-town, the whole Bendery is based on this, and this is why this dividing movement is extremely harmful for us, for the Slavs! For strength is in unity, for we are all Russian for the West, whether you are from Gatchina, or Pavlograd, or Mogilev, and from Kazan too! And there is no such clear border between all residents of Ukraine, as you write, all this would be too simple.
PS And in France, Hollande did not go too far, he just clearly performed his task;) ... His masters overseas could be pleased with him, but, bad luck, only the people of the republic did not understand this cosmopolitan.

[novel68rus]

for them the loot is above all ..

[Leprechaun]

Quote: Grande_Amigo

I don’t know about you, but I don’t confuse the concepts: Maidan, Bender, fascism, nationalism in one heap. I hope that you, dear ones, also have enough brains to see the difference between them ... And since the word fascism is now bogged down for some, I will allow myself to ask, what is so bad about nationalism? In Russian, uniting all Slavs, nationalism?

To begin with, Russian nationalism is sponsored by the United States, the same skinheads work for the State Department money. Russian nationalism is a big nail in the coffin with the inscription RUSSIA.

[Grande_amigo]

Well, as we start and finish, I think ... Skins work for an idea, not for money, can you believe me, unless there are so-called mishandled Cossacks, agents of influence in the movement, but where are they not? In the family, as they say, not without a freak. Yes, and what have the skins to do with it? A healthy nationalism of Russia is simply necessary, like air, to breathe in all its might, like roots, to stand firmly on our feet ... Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, we are the foundation of everything in Russia !!! Because we are Russia, we are Russia.

[sv68]

where are our hackers? infect these sites with trojans and try all extremist correspondence - if the government doesn’t want to fight against fascism, then there may be true conflicts among hackers

[Khagysh]

Plant, send to Kalyma, here's another, mess with freaks. It’s simpler to be guys, it’s simpler — for every Baderavets, lawyer and the like - a bullet. Do not take prisoners, do not re-educate them and do not convince them.

[alexander 2]

It would be nice, but it won't work. With its stupid "Anti-piracy" law, the authorities massively taught people to bypass the blockade. Besides, as in the well-known saying: "The forbidden fruit is sweet" ... It would not have had the opposite effect. First you need to calculate all the options, and not decide right away. Well, the "Iron Curtain" was already on our side. Now let them fence off, the truth is behind us. Although it is also impossible to exclude "Parental Control" for not matured minds.

[Grande_amigo]

And the Iron Curtain, in my opinion, was the so-called Parental Control you mentioned ...

[vladsolo56]

If they are blocked, then how do they know everything that we think and say about them, no, let not the whole truth of the uterus in full, and obscene in Russian

[b.t.a.]

Our laborers are always screaming about the evil KGB. There would be a KGB, ghouls "right sector" and a Jew (not a person of Jewish nationality, but a Jew) Kalamoisky did not feel as at ease as now (especially on the outskirts)

[silverwolf88]

The intensity of the information war will only increase ... and the methods and means of its conduct are becoming more sophisticated.