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Americans have calculated the loss of drones from 2001 year

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A journalistic investigation was conducted in the United States, the purpose of which was to obtain information about the number of American aircraft crashed since September 2001. drones. The study was carried out by a specially created group of publications The Washington Post. Representatives of the group studied the information provided by the main US military for the last 13 years.

Americans have calculated the loss of drones from 2001 year


If you believe the data provided by the Pentagon, for the specified time, the United States lost a total of 418 unmanned aerial vehicles. The greatest number of losses was recorded in the skies over Afghanistan and Iraq. A considerable number of accidents with UAVs occurred in the territory of the United States of America. The main reasons for the majority of accidents are the causes of the following nature: operator error, loss of communication signal. On the number of losses in the form of downed UAV data are not presented.

According to those who collected information, the loss of 32 drones per year (on average over the past 13 years) - this is an extremely negative indicator, indicating that American unmanned vehicles clearly need significant improvement.

The United States at this time occupy a confident first place in the world in the number of unmanned aerial vehicles used. By the number of accidents drone States are also ahead of the rest.
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  1. Iline
    Iline 23 June 2014 15: 32
    +7
    Recently, they just discussed the topic of what the future is for drones. I urged not to idealize the situation. Data, as they say, on the face. Not everything is so good in the Danish kingdom.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 23 June 2014 15: 37
      +7
      By the way, remember here, some site members questioned me the figures given for the losses? I constantly scoffed at losses in drones and aircraft of all kinds. Here you have a confirmation.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 23 June 2014 17: 49
        0
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Here you have a confirmation.

        in fact, drones are just beginning to be mastered. It’s like the era of the beginning of aviation, so there are a lot of failures, unreliability and so on. Now there is an accumulation of statistics and principles of construction / management / and etc.
        Over time, of course, they will catch up with reliability ...
        But, like any complex system, the order of failures will multiply by complexity ...
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 23 June 2014 18: 55
          0
          Naturally!
    2. evilrussian
      evilrussian 23 June 2014 17: 18
      +1
      For example, I don’t know how to control a drone in the electronic warfare zone. Can someone dedicate?
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 23 June 2014 17: 40
        +3
        Quote: evilrussian
        how to control a drone in the area of ​​electronic warfare

        only the transition to the AP in the inertial calculation mode with shifting the flight mission to "return to base" (or there are landing / self-destruction modes)
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        2. Aryan
          Aryan 24 June 2014 08: 05
          0
          the detachment did not notice the loss of a bolt ... crying
  2. Giant thought
    Giant thought 23 June 2014 15: 36
    +1
    Losses are considerable, and there is no tendency to reduce them. All the same, much more needs to be improved in this technique so that it becomes impeccable.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 23 June 2014 18: 00
      0
      Quote: Thought Giant
      so that it becomes impeccable.

      There are two factors:
      1. perfect artificial intelligence (or software perfection)
      2. Hope executive design systems.

      Until recently, the preset reliability coefficient of unmanned systems has always been almost an order of magnitude lower than for manned systems. Well, BIG reliability was simply not required - all the previously existing drones (cruise missiles and all sorts of other missiles) were single-use or low-resource. Due to this, they achieved excellent mass-dimensional returns.
      Now it won’t work out - you’ll have to set all parameters no lower than for manned aircraft ... For there will be system failures and crashes in an unnecessary place ...
  3. MSA
    MSA 23 June 2014 15: 38
    +2
    Data on the number of losses in the form of downed UAVs are not presented.

    It is necessary to create an UAV hunter in order to open more new statistics.
    1. armageddon
      armageddon 23 June 2014 15: 43
      +3
      Hmm ... See the News ... THE HUNTING CLUB: DRONE HUNTERS ARE ALREADY CREATED IN THE STATES themselves !!!
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 23 June 2014 18: 22
        0
        where is the entry application? and what contribution? and can I use rifled? or just a smoothbore?
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 June 2014 15: 41
    +2
    Yes, that they will still be stamped with losses .. (the printing press operates at increased speeds)
  5. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 23 June 2014 15: 41
    +7
    These are not the drones that "Iranians" regularly land, and then Obama begs them back from the Ayatollahs ...
    Short story:
    So, on 4 of December 2011 of the year, world media, citing information from Iranian sources, reported that Iran’s electronic warfare systems planted an American UAV Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel (“Sentinel”) in the east of the country. Moreover, the Americans themselves claim that they planted his radio intelligence complex (RTR) 1L222 "Automobile Base", which was supplied to Iran by Russia. But most likely it was a different complex. Then Obama asked the Iranians to return him, but they refused ...


    In early December 2012, the Iranian military reported another successful interception of the American reconnaissance drone Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel. And he didn’t just capture, but set up his own production, and even donated one of the produced complexes last year to Russia.

    However, the North Koreans did not abandon the American UAVs: at the parade in Pyongyang in 2012, they showed the North Korean UAVs, a copy of the American MQM-107D Streaker.
    1. massad1
      massad1 23 June 2014 16: 25
      0
      furiously plus !!! any more or less normal electronic warfare cuts off their control with a bang. I don’t understand one thing - do they have a lack of intelligence to make a system of protection against jamming or did they feel too unpunished?

      By the way, at Perekop UAV also planted pi.ndossky
    2. bugortn903
      bugortn903 24 June 2014 21: 35
      0
      If my memory doesn’t drown me, then in Iran for 3-5 years they planted XNUMX-XNUMX Yankees. There was also information about the Belarusian enterprise, against which sanctions were imposed that specialists from this office help Iranians with equipment and a kind word ...
      There is a friend of Belarus who flew from Minsk to Iran for the first time on a business trip, they were supposed to meet, not a large group of Belarusians also flew, he accidentally got on a bus with them, brought to a military base, after they realized that he was superfluous, talked to him another day.
  6. saag
    saag 23 June 2014 15: 42
    +1
    if you make a drone glider on a 3D printer, it’ll generally cost a penny, the main cost will be on the electronics, the engine, if the train is on the battery
  7. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 23 June 2014 15: 44
    +3
    Information is not objective:
    - man-made losses?
    - combat losses?
    - losses by region?
    - losses by the nature of the tasks performed?
    - losses of 418 for what total number of starts?
  8. mig31
    mig31 23 June 2014 15: 45
    +3
    Drones are created by man, the same is not perfect as the drone itself - everything has its time ... We hope that our people are and will be better, like everything that we created today flies ...
  9. Vtel
    Vtel 23 June 2014 15: 47
    +4
    Uncapitated ships and submarines, as well as lifeless tanks and underground moles, will go, and the entire people-operator will gather at the game center and let's wet each other.
    1. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 23 June 2014 16: 38
      0
      Rossi already has drones. They are really small.
  10. Kent0001
    Kent0001 23 June 2014 15: 50
    +1
    Exactly. And how many combat losses were there and how many were forcibly planted with the help of our "Base"? The number of the latter is particularly interesting.
  11. Neighbor from below
    Neighbor from below 23 June 2014 15: 57
    +1
    The United States at this time occupy a confident first place in the world in the number of unmanned aerial vehicles used. By the number of accidents drone States are also ahead of the rest.
    Take a look at the words: He who owns such a technique has its losses and whoever does not have one sits with his nose.
  12. zeleznijdorojnik
    zeleznijdorojnik 23 June 2014 16: 03
    +1
    Statistics is a tricky science, well, 32 devices a year, is that a lot of ishi? To how many of them there are only, secondly, there are different UAVs, and a "traitor" and sparrow-sized fitulins, you can also take them into account.
  13. Oml
    Oml 23 June 2014 16: 26
    +2
    Better to lose a bunch of UAVs than one with a pilot.
  14. Dmitry Toderes
    Dmitry Toderes 23 June 2014 16: 40
    -1
    Given the cost of all the equipment made by the Americans, the development of drones in the United States can already be considered an unsuccessful unprofitable program. laughing
    1. Neighbor from below
      Neighbor from below 23 June 2014 17: 30
      0
      Do not you think that uncles and aunts work in the Pentagon who know better what to spend the money allocated by the budget. And if the Russian army does not have such a wonderful technique, then you can only sympathize with it, since the drones have a future.
  15. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 23 June 2014 16: 51
    0
    By the number of drone accidents, the States are also ahead of the rest.
    And it pleases!
  16. VOLOD
    VOLOD 23 June 2014 16: 52
    0
    hmm, the drone system is complex. and work to create such a system is underway around the world. Yes, and someone can say how to achieve a stable connection with the UAV and protect it from various kinds of enemy attacks? and losses will be this current is the beginning of the road. But p ... we are the first to gain experience in military reconciliation.
  17. Oml
    Oml 23 June 2014 16: 55
    0
    Quote: Dmitry Toderese
    Given the cost of all the equipment made by the Americans, the development of drones in the United States can already be considered an unsuccessful unprofitable program. laughing


    Previously, aircraft with jet thrust were recognized as unpromising. Minds and help are needed, and we will have a breakthrough in this direction.
  18. corporal
    corporal 23 June 2014 16: 56
    0
    Quote: OML
    Better to lose a bunch of UAVs than one with a pilot

    This issue has already been discussed many times. All right human life is much more expensive, and what about drones, so with established production and a well-developed technological chain, they can be stamped with hundreds, if not thousands ...
    1. smoker
      smoker 23 June 2014 23: 58
      0
      Quote: Corporal
      with established production and a developed technological chain, they can be stamped with hundreds, if not thousands

      I agree and add:
      it would be logical now pay no attention to quantitative losses (in pieces, hundreds, thousands), as a percentage loss.
      Losses in %% of the total number of drones, losses in %% of the number of sorties / flight hours. This could already be considered statistics.
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  20. Cossack Ermak
    Cossack Ermak 23 June 2014 17: 12
    +1
    One lost pilot costs several million dollars of training and flying, not to mention human life. Yes, and a pilot-driven aircraft is more expensive in itself and in operation.
    The future for drones. They will establish an intelligent interactive program in case of loss of communication, reduce the cost of production and there will be war of drones))
  21. Drfreeman
    Drfreeman 23 June 2014 17: 27
    0
    Everything is known in comparison, and so far there is nothing to compare neither in quantity nor in quality! Yes, at least Americans will lose 100500 drones per year, this does not mean anything.
  22. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 23 June 2014 18: 13
    0
    And here are the UAVs "land-based" in the Crimea? Autobase is a good thing and most importantly useful for landing their "drones"! If our guys have done "naughty" with Cook, what will they do with amerovskoy UAVs?
  23. Cpa
    Cpa 23 June 2014 18: 24
    0
    Lockheed wants more money for development.
  24. sv68
    sv68 23 June 2014 18: 32
    0
    so that all their drones would crash into the Pentagon and the yellow-and-white house tomorrow. the more they break, the fewer people will suffer from them in the world fool
  25. Strashila
    Strashila 23 June 2014 19: 08
    0
    “According to those who collected information, the loss of 32 drones per year (on average over the past 13 years) is an extremely negative indicator, indicating that American unmanned vehicles clearly need significant improvement.” ... , in all respects, the indicator of the production of the Russian military-industrial complex with the help of which in most cases they were brought down, or, as in the case of Iran ... they were hijacked.
    laughing
  26. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 23 June 2014 20: 24
    0
    We still have to grow and grow in the creation of drones ... Well, not all at once, if only our enemies would give us time
  27. Leshka
    Leshka 23 June 2014 21: 15
    0
    mean more laughing
  28. Stypor23
    Stypor23 23 June 2014 21: 35
    +1
    Quote: Anchonsha
    We still have to grow and grow in the creation of drones ... Well, not all at once, if only our enemies would give us time

    I instantly recall November 1988, the launch of the most advanced drone in the history of mankind.