Donbass: in step to freedom

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"Peace" ultimatum of the president of the junta Poroshenko "folded weapon»Says that the Maidan has moved into the minds of the Kiev authorities. This is the paradigm of the Maidan pogroms: "We are peaceful, and if we say a word against us, let us forget it." Anyone who does not accept his "peace plan" Poroshenko promises to "destroy."

“Peacemaker”, damn it… after the “decisive offensive” of the ATO punishers choked up without reaching any goal: Slavyansk and Lugansk repulsed all attacks, and most importantly, kept the border with Russia behind them. Now the militias are receiving reinforcements by people and equipment, even tanks. Although the goal of the "peace plan" of the junta is still there: to fool "their own", and to give an occasion to the Western media once again to bark at Russia.

Russia, on the other hand, understands that in Ukraine, Fashington came to her soul, surrounded by her Bandera subservient, and is still holding a strategic defense, she refused to quickly enter the peacekeeping contingent. However, the possible humanitarian catastrophe of Lugansk and Donetsk can change Moscow’s attitude to the current situation.

The end of the war in the Donbass is not yet visible, and the threats of the punishers to destroy Lugansk and Donetsk, like Slavyansk, still remain real. Therefore, the introduction of Russian troops to rescue the Russian-speaking population of Donbass from the Nazi-Bandera punishers of the National Guard is also real.

Many waited in the Donbass for the “second Crimea”, but this was fundamentally impossible, at least considering the composition of the population and the geography of this region, therefore the “Crimean scenario” in the Donbass did not take place, which disappointed many people.

In the Donbass, obviously, the 08.08.08 war scenario will repeat, when Russia defended the South Ossetian Republic from aggression, too, by the junta, Saakashvili, another American servant running errands. Although today it is enough for Russia to render assistance to the Army of the South-East of Ukraine in the liberation of the Novorossiysk republics from the Bandera army. The troops of New Russia will stop, or rather, will occupy the defense at their borders. Autumn will come, winter, and with them a truce.

The West will fall into a schizoid hysteria with refrain: "Russia's invasion of Ukraine", burdened with paraphrenic visions of "Russian tanks marching through Ukraine."
And to the accompaniment of anti-Russian sanctions, the world will plunge into the Second World Cold War.

A lot has already been said that Ukraine needs the United States as a bridgehead and a missile base against Russia. However, the “events in Ukraine” themselves are also a reason for the United States to declare a Cold War to Russia in order to stop its economic growth and to deprive the non-Western world of a leader and defender of its interests. Therefore, the US is so uncompromising, they go to any lie in Ukraine: their “global leadership” is at stake.

But when they decided to “take off their heads”, they would cry too late in their hair, and today Russia is afraid of Western sanctions is counterproductive: they will still be. States only want to prepare them more thoroughly, to bring their satellites up to the necessary condition.

Given the inevitable confrontation with the West, Russia cannot give a reason to suspect her of betraying the Allies, and is obliged to protect the Novorossiysk republics, where referendums were held in favor of self-determination. Referendums are legitimate for these areas, and Poroshenko’s presidential elections are illegitimate, especially since they were held under propaganda and even coercive pressure from Bandera. Otherwise, the population of New Russia will be in the concentration camps of Bandera Nazis, and this will be a political catastrophe for Russia.

At this the foreseeable future ends, and the boundless terra of incognita begins ... However, whatever strategic decision on Ukraine is made by Putin, he will still be right and will be supported by the people. These are the circumstances today in Russia and the world.

Collective "Putin" is, in a broad sense, the political foundation of Russia and even of the world, protesting against American domination. It is not possible to build another similar “foundation” in the foreseeable future. And there is no time: in America, Europe and Ukraine, Euro-fascism is again raising its head.

That is, even if “Putin” makes a mistake, he will still be right: he has the right to make a mistake, this will be our collective mistake. Because today “Putin is Russia's conscience,” said musician Yuri Bashmet.
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  1. +21
    24 June 2014 08: 16
    Hold on guys the fracture is already close.
    1. +97
      24 June 2014 08: 30
      Ukrainian junta surpassed North Korea. Kim is resting belay
      Rada deputies are looking for traitors in the General Staff - Ministry of Industry
      minprom.ua/news/157649.html


      The commission of inquiry is looking for traitors in the General Staff ...
      fakty.ictv.ua/en/index/read-news/id/1518727


      Among people's deputies are looking for traitors »Ukraine News ...
      vesti-ua.net/novosti/politika/7023-sredi-nardepov-ischut-predateley.html


      SBU is looking for spies and traitors in the church (VIDEO ...
      nedelya-ua.com/articles/sbu-ishchet-shpionov-i-predateley-v-cerkvi-video


      The National Guard is looking for traitors in its ranks - KP.UA
      kp.ua ›Politics› The situation in the southeast


      www.segodnya.ua ›Political News› Political News
      Apr 28 2014 - The Security Service of Ukraine discovered a leak in the ranks ... Traitors are sought among ordinary members of the ATC.


      "Svoboda" and "Batkivshchyna" are looking for traitors in "Blow"
      blog.polemika.com.ua/blog/svoboda-batkivschina-ischut-predateley.html


      "Byutovtsy" are looking for traitors among their | News on ...
      gazeta.ua/ru/articles/politics-newspaper/_byutovcy-ischut.../196017


      NG: They are looking for traitors in Kiev - Korrespondent.net
      korrespondent.net/world/worldabus/739284/


      I’m crap from this country, where apparently only traitors live.
      1. +42
        24 June 2014 08: 36
        Hunters are now like spiders in a bank .. soon they will start to eat each other (it would be faster)))
        1. +22
          24 June 2014 10: 01
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Hunters are now like spiders in a bank .. soon they will start to eat each other (it would be faster)))

          Do not sit idle, send them salt, pepper, and forks with spoons, otherwise they can’t be solved with their hands. laughing
        2. +4
          24 June 2014 12: 15
          As my mathematics teacher used to say (when solving a problem) - "with feeling, with sense, with an arrangement, with onions, pepper and mustard ...". But high-precision against the "armor" of the army of Novorossiya should be delivered urgently. It seems so to me. soldier
          1. +2
            24 June 2014 14: 13
            against "armor"

            Tanks are needed against armor, and mobile air defense systems are needed to cover them. Grenade launchers and MANPADS do not roll.
            1. +2
              25 June 2014 19: 50
              Wheels, depending on what to put.
          2. +13
            24 June 2014 17: 52
            http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1722145&tid=105474
            The abolition of the March resolution of the Federation Council will allow us to get away from speculation and open Russophobia in Ukraine, said First Deputy Prime Minister of the People’s Republic of Donetsk Andrei Purgin. At the same time, Purgin emphasized that the DPR has formed its own armed forces and can stand up for itself.
            Meanwhile, the decision of the Federation Council provoked a negative reaction in the European Union and the USA.
            .



            1. Andy1967
              +4
              24 June 2014 20: 55
              Great idea in your picture. If at least a few "couch strategists" it will push on a true understanding of the situation and our policy, it will be just fine.
            2. -2
              25 June 2014 09: 36
              The trouble is that you can look at the thought from the picture from two sides ....
            3. +1
              26 June 2014 15: 59
              and now what's wrong? gave permission, sanctions, canceled, dissatisfied, like pregnant conchites, but shaw psaka said?
        3. Shoma-1970
          +4
          24 June 2014 21: 00
          everything in order! The cancellation of the March resolution means: the Donbass army no longer needs to bring in Russian troops, because it is full of arms, the GDP is confident that Donbass will gain freedom, that the Donbass treats the application with the understanding that the GDP for the West is not always strict "evil" ... In a word, DONBASS IS FREE.
        4. Alex___124
          0
          26 June 2014 19: 58
          Exactly! Ordinary people only feel sorry!
      2. +14
        24 June 2014 08: 42
        You need to somehow justify your "failures"! So they are looking for the switchmen. And they will be, switchmen.
      3. +17
        24 June 2014 08: 51
        One Partisan Man
        two people - partisan detachment
        three people - partisan detachment with a TRADER !!!
      4. +14
        24 June 2014 08: 58
        The hunt for "witches" began from impotence!
        1. +8
          24 June 2014 10: 39
          It is good that the junta began to peck at each other, we need to strengthen the help of New Russia so that we can survive, and in case of failures in the east the junta will begin to eat itself.
          1. -2
            26 June 2014 16: 05
            Kakamoysha is the chief traitor, and his agent is the parashkin cockerel. and Yulia was confused with Putin, she was assigned to the shkonka for this.
        2. The comment was deleted.
      5. +8
        24 June 2014 09: 02
        Why apparently ...? Some traitors live ... laughing
      6. +13
        24 June 2014 09: 04
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I’m crap from this country, where apparently only traitors live.

        Well, a line from the old joke:
        ...
        3 Ukrainians - partisan detachment with a traitor. :-)
        1. 0
          24 June 2014 22: 30
          There about Belarusians.
      7. +28
        24 June 2014 09: 06
        "... I'm crap from this country, in which only traitors apparently live ..."
        I recall the immortal: "Well, son, did your Poles help you?"
      8. +35
        24 June 2014 09: 07
        Alexander Romanov

        Ukrainian junta surpassed North Korea. Kim is resting


        Sanya, hi! hi This is your post regarding traitor search! laughing


        ATO "does not roll", the junta is beaten
        Change a penny to a rupee
        Who is to blame for what the junta do?
        And how to blame all these troubles?
        Solution found. Hooray!
        Traitors seek time
        Moreover, in their ranks of the junties
        In the General Staff, Parliament and in the beds
        All will be taken to clean water
        Blow, People's Deputy and SBU with Freedom
        BYuT seeks renegades in SBU
        And SBU in Freedom in the morning
        The General Staff sins on the party Blow
        Blow yesterday bought a radar
        Encryption went to communication
        EW equipment for blocking
        In short, people there insanity
        Enthusiasm from ears
        Spy spy chases
        But the info is still drained ... laughing
        1. +5
          24 June 2014 09: 31
          Quote: major071
          Spy spy chases

          Healthy Vladimir! Well, Traitors in Search of Traitors or Maidan 4 laughing
        2. +6
          24 June 2014 09: 58
          Quote: major071
          Spy spy chases
          But the info is still drained.

          Major! ++++! hi Just brilliant! copy for friends. good
          1. +8
            24 June 2014 10: 03
            Elena, thanks! love
            The mood in the morning is good, and so it happened ... laughing
            1. +21
              24 June 2014 11: 07
              “Monya, tell your geography teacher,” Rabinovich addresses his son, “that I don’t see any reason to buy you a new atlas until the situation in Ukraine is finally cleared up.”
              1. 0
                24 June 2014 19: 40
                Smiled! "+"!
                It seems that a new atlas will not be needed for a long time ...
        3. +3
          24 June 2014 11: 54
          Quote: major071
          In short, people there insanity
          Enthusiasm from ears
          Spy spy chases
          But the info is still drained ... laughing

          Major! We also had an excellent political officer of the battalion when he served in the army. good
      9. calocha
        +2
        24 June 2014 09: 08
        The Benderaites have all the traitors except themselves ...
      10. +7
        24 June 2014 09: 13
        Well, there is a joke on this subject:
        one Ukrainian is a partisan.
        two Ukrainians, this is a partisan detachment.
        three Ukrainians, this is a partisan detachment with a traitor! bully
      11. +3
        24 June 2014 09: 52
        [quote = Alexander romanov] Ukrainian junta surpassed North Korea. Kim is resting belay
        [b] Parliament deputies are looking for traitors in the General Staff - Ministry of Industry
        minprom.ua/news/157649.html [[]]

        [b] The commission of inquiry is looking for traitors in the General Staff ...
        fakty.ictv.ua/en/index/read-news/id/1518727[/b]

        [b] Among people's deputies are looking for traitors »Ukraine News ...
        vesti-ua.net/novosti/politika/7023-sredi-nardepov-ischut-predateley.html [[/b]
        [B]
        SBU is looking for spies and traitors in the church (VIDEO ...
        nedelya-ua.com/articles/sbu-ishchet-shpionov-i-predateley-v-cerkvi-video [/b]

        [b] The National Guard is looking for traitors in its ranks - KP.UA
        kp.ua ›Politics› The situation in the southeast [/ b]
        [B]


        The following fact can be stated: the process of self-identification began painfully in Ukolyandia through the "root system of the extremities".
        They apparently did not know or completely forgot the old joke: "One Ukrainian is the chairman of a collective farm; two Ukrainians are a partisan detachment; three Ukrainians are a partisan detachment with a traitor."
        I wonder where their search will lead. Isn’t it easier to just rely on the first, second ...
        In the very foundation of the "Ukrainian idea", starting with Daniel Galitsky, lies betrayal - the idea of ​​admissibility of refusal and oblivion of the ancestors' faith for the sake of a better (more well-fed) life. No wonder. But it is worth writing about this separately.
      12. Vicus
        -15
        24 June 2014 10: 10
        Agreeing with the author of the article, I would like to draw a perspective of the next three months:

        So, the moment - February 22 - the entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into Ukraine did not take place due to the cowardice of the Russian authorities. Historical chance - lost! If everything continues, as it continues, in three months the first frosts will come. The fascist junta will do everything to drag out this process of confrontation between the two worlds until the first frosts. The entire destroyed urban infrastructure of the southeast, in order to prepare for the winter, cannot be restored. In this case, the entire southeast - the DPR and LPR will fall into the grip of incredible natural tests (without water, electricity, gas, heating and sewage). And this, subject to the blockade, is a disaster!

        What to do? - If the government of the Russian Federation wants to permanently lose the respect of the Slavic-Russian population of the southeast, and not be accused of betraying the majority of the Slavic-Russian Donbass-forming population, it was already necessary yesterday to bring the CIS Peacekeeping troops into the territory of southeast Ukraine, and to throw money on the restoration of cities and villages throughout Donbass. Otherwise - the end! In this case, the entire population of southeastern Ukraine will curse not Kiev’s power, but Russia, which left 7,0 million of our brothers to the mercy of destroying the Kiev junta.

        On the other hand, all other regions of Ukraine will establish themselves in the opinion that they did the right thing, that they did not support Russia in the initiatives of the DNI and LC, and a priori did not speak of the Russian Federation against the anti-state and anti-constitutional coup in Ukraine on February 21, 2014. And this means the final funeral of all the hopes of the Slavs of the southeast and all of Ukraine associated with their salvation by Great Russia.

        So, either - the immediate entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into the DPR and LPR, or - reap the full contempt of all the peoples of Ukraine and all of Eurasia, up to small tribal formations such as RUSSINS.

        Thirdly, the illegally elected President of Ukraine P. Poroshenko will easily receive carte blanche for the further genocide of the Slavic-Russian population throughout Ukraine, and, most importantly, after entering the EU - in connection with the association - the entry of NATO troops into Ukraine to the borders of the Russian Federation and immediate further provocatively fascist escalation into the beneath of Russia. In short ... And this is WAR!

        Victor Rusakov
        http://rusvic.ru/
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        1. +4
          24 June 2014 10: 27
          Kapets will soon be kapets. But who didn’t and will not leave the southeast. Where was the war without destroying the infrastructure and civilian casualties?. You saw Grozny after the war. Everything was destroyed. And right now you won’t believe that there was war. So. that the main thing is to dunk the junta. and the rest is acquired. It has happened and worse. after the great patriotic
        2. +4
          24 June 2014 10: 42
          We should not intervene in the conflict on the territory of another state that is being imposed on us with the help of patriots like you! We cannot adequately judge the militia about its volumes because we don’t own the information! The time will come and our peacekeepers will not enter yet!
        3. +20
          24 June 2014 11: 10
          Dear Victor VicRus, do you really think that if you start immediately, then you can restore Semenovka that has been wiped off the face of the earth before winter? And there are many such villages and towns rolled up into black soil. Do you really think that they can be restored before winter? Bullshit and demogogy! Even starting this very minute, by winter, at least, you can settle in unless in dugouts.

          The following thesis. There are no Slavs all over Ukraine! Kharkov Russian-speaking Slavs in the sweat of their faces rivet tanks for the junta. They wanted to poop on Slavs, Russia, the junta, God and the Devil. They have loans, a mortgage, and their own body shirt. In Kiev, neudumki will ride on the Maidan, and in Donetsk, Slavyansk, Lugansk and others like them, the Ukrainian Slavs will ride together in Russia. We already have a full city, and everyone is sitting on the priest exactly and require three meals a day. And okay, women, old people, children, but no - healthy men. They have no homeland? They have nothing to protect? In the opposite direction are the Russian Slavs, because there they defend their homeland!
          And what Ukrainian Slavs are you talking about? Demogogy.

          According to the third thesis. You know who the Russians are in their understanding. Russian is them, because, as Kievan Rus. And we are geeks of the Tatar-Mongolian, marauding the high name of the Rusyns. It follows that, by definition, there can be no genocide of the Slavic-Russian population, since true Russians ride on the Maidan. The rest are subhuman. Yatsenyuk clearly explained to you!

          Why am I all this. Enough of demagogy, enough of emotions. If you want to help, go there, and if you can’t, then transfer funds that are feasible to you to the accounts that Strelkov repeatedly indicated.
          Enough of the air of trust.
          1. Vicus
            -6
            24 June 2014 11: 44
            I'm talking about restoring vital infrastructure! There will be nowhere to bake bread ... People will sort it out with housing! Most important: electricity, gas, water and sewage! Without this, do not winter in Ukraine! Do you want to see firsthand the Leningrad blockade?

            So, you say - Mongols? But what about 7,0 million of the population of the DPR and LPR, who "do not jump ..." What is Kharkiv (who is the mayor - you know!), Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev is not for me to explain to you! In areas in which the ratio is over 50% of the crypto-Jewish population, a fascist coup was swallowed there ... And you do not allow, after the signing of Ukraine and the EU of an association, even an economic one, the entry of NATO troops, in silence, to the border with Russia? They sleep and see themselves after June 27, 2014 at the border of the Russian Federation - near Belgorod ... In this case, humanitarian corridors in the Russian Federation will be completely blocked. And then what?

            Women and children and men with three or five children will "say" to Russia! If the man - the head of the family remains to defend "independence", who will feed his children? And children are the Future of the South-East!

            Your thesis is Jewish, sorry! It is the fifth column of the Russian Federation that screams on the Internet, on radio and TV, about the non-interference of the Russian Federation, not to mention the introduction of the CIS Peacekeeping Force ...

            In my post, I am talking about the mistakes of the leadership of the Russian Federation over the past ten years, and, in particular, from February 21, 2014, about the non-use of the ACE in the hands of V.V. Putin - V.Yanukovych, who was obliged to BEAT the fascist card immediately after the unconstitutional coup and shooting on the Maidan "Berkur". This period was complete anarchy in Ukraine, long before the Crimean events, and it was either cowardice or cowardice that did not take advantage of this historical chance, since the scenario of the final destruction of both Ukraine and Russia is obvious! And the return of Crimea is a scenario of the Jewish Khazaria from the Baltic states, through semi-Jewish Belarus to Sevastopol.

            In the spring, you remember me, Mr. Jackin!
            1. +4
              24 June 2014 12: 12
              [quote = VicRus]
              Well, it’s kind of an adult. And then what to demand from youth ???
            2. +3
              24 June 2014 14: 15
              Vicus
              My God .... how everything is running ... "Jewish theses", "crypto-Jews" ... Sorry, but, in theory, it's time to heal you ... I don't even want to comment on this - you are clearly not young and therefore tear you like a cat for such statements, it's even uncomfortable ...

              Okay. And you can explain. why, when we swamp maydaun brothers tried to arrange the same thing. what succeeded Bandera in Ukraine. in the crowd of opposition leaders, voices such as you were very audible with the same slogans ... and our Natsiks were not at all disturbed by the fact that they stood shoulder to shoulder with the mink opposition. diverse liberals. that didn’t interfere. that the opposition leaders did not hesitate to hang around foreign embassies ... well, probably this is characteristic of great patriots, right?
              By the way. it is strange to hear your exposure of the fascist coup in Ukraine due to the fact that you use fascist rhetoric ... And pearls about that. that Crimea was annexed to Russia by bad Jews in order to create a "Jewish Khazaria" ... the statement that Belarus is half-Jewish .... this is already a diagnosis - total brain decay ... :))) Maybe the Jews created such a huge Russia? Are you trying to destroy and destroy it in spite of the bad Jews? :)))

              To admit, when you read this, the hand itself reaches for .... the phone - call you an ambulance ... :)))
              Bye. And do not worry - no one will remember you in the spring - why remember someone's wild fever delirium. :)))
              1. 0
                26 June 2014 16: 16
                Maybe the Jews created such a huge Russia? Are you trying to ruin and destroy it to the bad Jews? :)))

                the Jews do not create anything of it, they like worms from the inside use everything, and destroy it.
          2. s1н7т
            +1
            24 June 2014 20: 28
            , nonsense, dear! Especially amused about the Russian Slavs laughing Well, how much do you need to be uneducated to write this? laughing laughing laughing
        4. zzz
          zzz
          -2
          24 June 2014 12: 06
          Quote: VicRus
          Agreeing with the author of the article, I would like to draw a perspective of the next three months:

          And in this article, the prospect is such that there is no need to flutter, the plan is ready, but it is not ours.On the confrontation of the USA and the Russian Federation in Ukraine: tactical issues - 3
          24th of June 2014
          -near article in a political review
        5. Fin
          +3
          24 June 2014 12: 41
          Quote: VicRus
          The entire destroyed urban infrastructure of the southeast, in order to prepare for the winter, cannot be restored. In this case, the entire southeast - the DPR and LPR will fall into the grip of incredible natural tests (without water, electricity, gas, heating and sewage). And this, subject to the blockade, is a disaster!

          Victor, do not paint a picture of the apocalypse in advance. Everything is restored if there is no shelling. But will they or not be decided at the end of June - July, after the Slavic (Kursk) battle. And I believe that the LPR and the DPR will win, but they can drive them out of the republics - I don’t know, there may not be enough strength.
          At your age, pessimism is normal.
        6. Am
          +4
          24 June 2014 13: 14
          Russia then owes everything, it should and must ... Russia owes nothing to anyone, it’s necessary to restore its own, and only then it will be in the queue to help them. And then everyone should all of history, but we will restore everything to everyone. , I’m definitely not fattening, but I’m thinking how to make things better. And I don’t constantly demand something from my neighbor .. It’s the same with Ukraine. Give weapons, but let them fight themselves. any and in any scenario.
          1. 0
            25 June 2014 16: 50
            Quote: Soy
            Russia does not owe anything to anyone, it’s necessary to restore its own, and only then help those in the queue.

            Well, how can one be so uneducated! After all, we have already passed this, left Afghanistan - received conflicts in Soviet Central Asia, received Chechnya. We will give Ukraine back - we will fight in Rostov, on the Kuban, in Belgorod, do you want this?
            1. 0
              26 June 2014 20: 59
              Quote: Setrac
              Quote: Soy
              Russia does not owe anything to anyone, it’s necessary to restore its own, and only then help those in the queue.

              Well, how can one be so uneducated! After all, we have already passed this, left Afghanistan - received conflicts in Soviet Central Asia, received Chechnya. We will give Ukraine back - we will fight in Rostov, on the Kuban, in Belgorod, do you want this?

              Although someone put a minus for you, you say everything is correct. Who is it "they" should "themselves" fight!? !!? You can't fight against a regular army !!!! Whatever this army is !!!! There is a pattern: the Russians leave, the Americans come ... There will be no New Russia - there will be a war here, on the western border of the Russian Federation.
        7. +3
          24 June 2014 13: 57
          Vicus
          Let me ask - What CIS peacekeepers are you talking about? None of the CIS is eager to invade Ukraine. On the contrary, Lukashenko calls for the elimination of terrorists in the DPR and LPR, promises to strengthen cooperation with the Kiev regime in the military sphere and promises to provide the regime with cheap fuel (from our own oil and not forgetting to beg for a $ XNUMX billion loan from us).


          In light of the foregoing, given the initially incorrect premises, your further constructions lose their foundation.
          By the way. why did you carefully circumvent the important circumstance that the vast majority of Ukrainians fooled by propaganda will perceive our troops as occupiers? Do you realize that such a full-fledged occupation of vast territories with at least thirty million extremely hostile people to us?
          You don’t think that at first the population, having become convinced of the complete collapse of their chosen leadership of education, Ukraine, under the yoke of harsh realities, should move away from unauthorized burning (and this inevitably has already begun to happen slowly), and then it will be possible to help him ... I repeat - to help the introduction of troops. not occupy ...
          By the way. I would advise you nevertheless to ask how the peacekeeping forces are formed. And then, without understanding these issues, your calculations look like childish fantasies.
          As a result, your proposals are based on incorrect premises, completely ignore reality, and come down to populism and demagogy ... alas ... I, of course, understand that you are motivated by the best motives. but this is precisely the case when, with good intentions ... further, I believe, it is clear.
          1. +2
            24 June 2014 14: 45
            Quote: smile
            On the contrary, Lukashenko calls for the destruction of terrorists in the DPR and LPR, promises to strengthen cooperation with the Kiev regime in the military sphere and promises to provide the regime with cheap fuel

            In my opinion, all of the above is just the banter of the "last dictator". And the new, "good" BTR-4 (if you remember about the "Umka"), which could interest the father, is simply an open mockery of the Svidomo.
            1. +3
              24 June 2014 15: 30
              FANTOM-72
              God give it. But this is more like his consistent policy - he never supported us at a difficult moment - for example, he did not recognize Ossetia and Abkhazia either. Yes, and his statement about a more than twofold increase in commodity circulation does not look like a banter - not the fulfillment of previously concluded contracts, but the expansion ....
              Moreover, he quite seriously earlier resented the Ukrainian troops. who couldn’t resist ours in Crimea, he said that Belarusians would fight back from the aggressor — from us bish- to the last person ... He, accordingly, also did not recognize Crimea ... if we consider all this as a banter, then all foreign policy But father is a solid banter, and nothing but him ... it seems to me that Lukashenko is a serious person and politician and understands the meaning of his every word.
              1. +2
                24 June 2014 17: 01
                There is no more consistent ally than Old Man. This is another of his political "anti-Russian" enticements. That there weren't enough of them already? Yes, yes fig. And as he was a friend, he will remain. There will be no Russia, there will be no Belarus.
                1. +3
                  24 June 2014 20: 11
                  Akuzenka
                  Well, in principle, I agree, especially with the last sentence. I just don’t like that our colleagues mold an icon out of him.
                  Although friendship is in many ways forced on his part, he is not a suicide, as rightly noted below FANTOM-72. So that it should not be demonized either.
                  And then ours, I see, now amicably joined Batska in the comments to the article on the Belarusian air defense systems. I must confess that I was surprised by such a quick change of mood - today we pray for someone, tomorrow we trample him in the mud, the day after tomorrow - again him - on the shield ...... this is not serious. Frankly, I even regretted a little that I also originally added coal to the firebox ... :)))
              2. +2
                24 June 2014 18: 14
                Quote: smile
                Lukashenko is a serious person and politician and understands the meaning of each of his words.

                There is an old joke:
                If a diplomat says YES, that means MAYBE.
                If a diplomat says CAN BE, it means NO.
                If a diplomat says NO, then he is NOT A DIPLOMAT.

                Old Man is beaten, he can do politics and he is not a suicide.
                1. 0
                  24 June 2014 20: 12
                  FANTOM-72
                  Well, God forbid. I would like that too .... we'll see.
              3. 0
                25 June 2014 21: 18
                yes Old Man no longer surprises in any office he’s his own slippery type
          2. +1
            24 June 2014 20: 04
            Quote: smile
            Lukashenko calls for the destruction of terrorists in the DPR and LPR
            Apparently "dad" will do the same with his wife if she files for divorce. I am not a diplomat or a politician, I argue like a common man in the street: I compare Kiev and Donetsk with a husband and wife, who brought their relationship to a complete break. Exit 2. 1-tsevelized divorce 2-who will soak someone in the kitchen. Poroshenko, be a man, go for good, otherwise the hour is uneven and you will get a frying pan on the crown.
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        8. UFO
          +3
          24 June 2014 14: 15
          Quote: VicRus
          Agreeing with the author of the article, I would like to draw a perspective of the next three months:

          So, the moment - February 22 - the entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into Ukraine did not take place due to the cowardice of the Russian authorities. Historical chance - lost!

          According to the 08.08.08 scenario, Russia will not act! Putin WILL NOT REPEAT! This is what frightens Western strategists. "We'll count the chickens in the fall", as Putin intended - this is how the situation develops, but he does not want EVERYONE to KNOW WHAT he intended. request
        9. -1
          24 June 2014 14: 41
          Today our esteemed President has actually surrendered his positions in the name of South Stream. Before visiting Austria, he asked the Duma to revoke permission to use the army outside the country. ALL! At the top, apparently, they agreed that in exchange for guarantees of Russia's non-intervention in the Ukrainian conflict, Europe MAYBE will not block the South Stream project. Those. Russia's interests are again trampled on for the sake of the interests of big business - simply the oligarchy. I have always been a supporter of the president, but lately there is an impression that, firstly, he was abruptly pulled up after the Crimea, and secondly, trying to save his future (and now he is clearly not in danger of a third term), he went on about the "fifth column", surrendering their own victories. It's all sad ...
          1. 0
            26 June 2014 16: 37
            tedious to read your groans, ... Russia's interests are again trampled on for the sake of the interests of big business - simply the oligarchy .... the president actually gave up his position in the name of South Stream ... he went about the "fifth column", surrendering his own victories. ., and the fact that the West practically recognized New Russia, the red cross. obes, pase and other parasites negotiations, etc. it is, if step by step, then mono go further than at a gallop, something like that, and I think you are not given an expert on all the undercover intrigues. and if ... were always a supporter of the president ... then you would not whine
          2. 0
            26 June 2014 21: 04
            Quote: samuil60
            Today our esteemed President has actually surrendered his positions in the name of South Stream. Before visiting Austria, he asked the Duma to revoke permission to use the army outside the country. ALL! At the top, apparently, they agreed that in exchange for guarantees of Russia's non-intervention in the Ukrainian conflict, Europe MAYBE will not block the South Stream project. Those. Russia's interests are again trampled on for the sake of the interests of big business - simply the oligarchy. I have always been a supporter of the president, but lately there is an impression that, firstly, he was abruptly pulled up after the Crimea, and secondly, trying to save his future (and now he is clearly not in danger of a third term), he went on about the "fifth column", surrendering their own victories. It's all sad ...

            I do not think that the withdrawal of permission somehow influenced SE ... As they fought, they will beat Banderlog! Yes, Putin himself has the right to make a forceful decision ...
        10. Hedgehog_Russian
          +3
          24 June 2014 16: 16
          A thin world is better than a good quarrel! To bring Russian troops into the territory of the former Ukraine is to finally bury all hope for such a world. What actually am and their satellites need ... But officially recognizing the sovereignty of the republics and taking measures to establish a no-fly zone over the LPR and the DPR, send volunteers and put modern heavy weapons to the militia, is entirely within the power of the Russian Federation ...
      13. +5
        24 June 2014 10: 21
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I’m crap from this country, where apparently only traitors live.

        For collective insanity, too many people. They are irradiated with a campaign. We should send them a foil cap in the form of humanitarian aid.
      14. Vicus
        -13
        24 June 2014 10: 35
        http://topwar.ru/52610-donbass-v-shage-do-svobody.html
        Donbass a step away from Freedom?



        Agreeing with the author of the article, I would like to draw a perspective of the next three months:

        So, the moment - February 22 - the entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into Ukraine did not take place due to the cowardice of the Russian authorities. Historical chance - lost! If everything continues, as it continues, in three months the first frosts will come. The fascist junta will do everything to drag out this process of confrontation between the two worlds until the first frosts. The entire destroyed urban infrastructure of the southeast, in order to prepare for the winter, cannot be restored. In this case, the entire southeast - the DPR and LPR will fall into the grip of incredible natural tests (without water, electricity, gas, heating and sewage). And this, subject to the blockade, is a disaster!

        What to do? - If the government of the Russian Federation wants to permanently lose the respect of the Slavic-Russian population of the southeast, and not be accused of betraying the majority of the Slavic-Russian Donbass-forming population, it was already necessary yesterday to bring the CIS Peacekeeping troops into the territory of southeast Ukraine, and to throw money on the restoration of cities and villages throughout Donbass. Otherwise - the end! In this case, the entire population of southeastern Ukraine will curse not Kiev’s power, but Russia, which left 7,0 million of our brothers to the mercy of destroying the Kiev junta.

        On the other hand, all other regions of Ukraine will establish themselves in the opinion that they did the right thing, that they did not support Russia in the initiatives of the DNI and LC, and a priori did not speak of the Russian Federation against the anti-state and anti-constitutional coup in Ukraine on February 21, 2014. And this means the final funeral of all the hopes of the Slavs of the southeast and all of Ukraine associated with their salvation by Great Russia.

        So, either - the immediate entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into the DPR and LPR, or - reap the full contempt of all the peoples of Ukraine and all of Eurasia, up to small tribal formations such as RUSSINS.

        Thirdly, the illegally elected Ukraine P. Poroshenko will easily receive carte blanche for the further genocide of the Slavic-Russian population throughout Ukraine, and, most importantly, after entering the EU - in connection with the association - the entry of NATO troops into Ukraine before the borders of the Russian Federation and immediate further provocatively fascist escalation into the beneath Russia. In short ... Ah, this is WAR!

        Victor Rusakov
        http://rusvic.ru/
        .
        1. +2
          24 June 2014 12: 15
          [quote = VicRus]
          And this, in the sense, the control ???
        2. +3
          24 June 2014 13: 41
          It feels like VicRus that you wrote this in delirium.
          What is the input of peacekeepers on February 22?
          Where to Kiev?

          What is a historic chance?
          Who decided that he was "historical", YOU, in this case I would like to ask you a question in the style of Panikovsky:
          “And who are you?” To reproach betrayal, as well as give the country advice on a cosmic scale and cosmic stupidity
        3. tux
          +2
          24 June 2014 13: 52
          Quote: VicRus
          Agreeing with the author of the article, I would like to draw a perspective of the next three months:

          ...

          Victor Rusakov


          It was always interesting - where are you from so many sofa analysts? What do you know more than the rest, since you are supposed to do this in service, rank, (add the necessary)? Or so you want to become famous for the whole Runet that they are ready to give out any nonsense as the truth in the first instance, just to pay attention to you. Forecasting is a thankless thing, but crowds of anonymous analysts regularly pour out their predictions about the future of Ukraine and Russia. Can you enlighten what you are guided by in addition to speculation in the preparation of data "forecasts"?
      15. +4
        24 June 2014 10: 46
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Rada are looking for traitors in the General Staff

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Investigation Commission is looking for traitors

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Among people's deputies seek traitors

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        SBU is looking for spies and traitors in the church

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The National Guard is looking for traitors in its ranks

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Traitors are sought among ordinary members of the ATC.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        "Svoboda" and "Batkivshchyna" are looking for traitors in "Blow"

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        "Byutovtsy" are looking for traitors among their

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Kiev are looking for traitors

        This is paranoia, I think the traitors are now at the helm of Ukraine, starting with Poroshenko and ending with the rank and file foot soldier of the right-wing soldier. Hello Alexander hi
      16. +2
        24 June 2014 11: 23
        If you believe their media, half of Ukraine are traitors, and the second officers (not lower than the colonel) of the GRU of Russia laughing
      17. Hedgehog_Russian
        0
        24 June 2014 11: 55
        He who seeks will find ... on his ass :))))
      18. Hedgehog_Russian
        0
        24 June 2014 11: 55
        He who seeks will find ... on his ass :))))
      19. 0
        24 June 2014 13: 06
        They are looking for traitors, without realizing that they are the same traitors. A bunch of Bander who are seated in the Rada and the government are trying, through weapons and false propaganda, to crush the whole of Ukraine under themselves.
      20. 0
        24 June 2014 13: 18
        It's just that in Ukraine this maydanut crowd needs to do something. As a result, in addition to a fictional external enemy, a real "witch hunt" began! Many totalitarian states, mixed with lawlessness and the power of arms, betting on a militant junta are doomed. It's just that today's representatives of the "authorities" in Kiev studied very poorly and do not know historical examples. Someone was a criminal and a thief, someone sculpted left-handed chocolates, and someone did not advance further than pedophilia. And this is the reality of today's collapsed Ukraine. Look, look for traitors ...
      21. +2
        24 June 2014 14: 06
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Parliament deputies are looking for traitors in the General Staff

        What are the generals and the army
      22. +1
        24 June 2014 14: 23
        Lightning

        Putin invited the Federation Council to repeal the decree on the use of the army in Ukraine
        http://www.interfax.ru/382391
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      24. +1
        24 June 2014 22: 41
        remember the joke: one German burgher, two Germans, two soldiers, three Germans, three soldiers. one Ukrainian master, two Ukrainians-partisan detachment, three Ukrainians-partisan detachment with a traitor. it was funny before now it is at best black humor.
      25. 0
        25 June 2014 20: 44
        so as they say --- 2 ukra, partisan detachment, 3 ukra partisan detachment and traitor !!!!
        1. 0
          26 June 2014 16: 48
          In short, the idea is this: we must build them all on the Maidan, and every third shoot / hang \ quarter, if they search again, they will start the procedure again, until the enlightenment of the brain
      26. +1
        26 June 2014 01: 06
        But don’t shit.
        The country Ukraine itself was formed as a result of betrayals. First, Mazepa, to whom the Swedish occupiers allocated part of their flag (yellow cross on a blue background), then Bandera (comments are unnecessary).
        And yet, imagine, Shi Vi still want ???
      27. 0
        26 June 2014 15: 43
        they are looking for him ..... the gto badge on his chest, and they no longer know anything about him.
      28. Oleg Gor
        0
        26 June 2014 22: 49
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I’m crap from this country, where apparently only traitors live.

        Let them look for traitors in the mirror.
    2. -2
      24 June 2014 08: 37
      Hmm ... I agree with the author !!! Plus! Sure BENDERS DOOMED ... !!!
      1. +12
        24 June 2014 08: 43
        Quote: Armagedon
        ! Sure BENDERS DOOMED ... !!!

        Bender is a city in Transnistria
        president.gospmr.ru /.../ gorodu-bendery-prisvoeno-pochetnoe-zvanie-go ...
        June 19, 2012 - By the Decree of the President of Transnistria, the city of Bender was awarded the honorary title "City of Military Glory"
      2. +3
        24 June 2014 09: 01
        God grant that fascism would disappear once and for all, although it will always be watered as an instrument. The West doesn’t know where to put its NATO, but the trillions of bucks are in doubt. Let’s say, well, they will defeat everyone in the world or God forbid, they will still reduce the population on earth by wars and very terrible wars, by the way, many politicians do not even cut into it all, they trust their masters about great democracy, and even their children are in serious danger and the money there will no longer help them, although to hell with these zombies, there all human feelings have disappeared due to the lack of a brain ...
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        1. bess256
          +1
          24 June 2014 09: 32
          as long as there are states, fascism will always be, this is their tool in the buildup of the state ..
      4. +4
        24 June 2014 09: 04
        Quote: Armagedon
        Hmm ... I agree with the author !!! Plus! Sure BENDERS DOOMED ... !!!

        Bandera in this coup is just a one-time consumable. Only then what to do with them until no one knows. It just doesn’t work out, since they are armed .. Vobschem brewed porridge scum with Kolomoisky ..
      5. -8
        24 June 2014 09: 21
        Hmm ... WHAT ARE WE SURPRESSING ... The President TALKED about Bender ... AND ALL UNDERSTAND ALL !!!
        1. +2
          24 June 2014 09: 33
          Quote: Armagedon
          The President said about Bender ..

          Which president? What benders? What are you carrying???
          1. +2
            24 June 2014 09: 44
            Hmm ... Putin, if something called HUNNYAT ... BENDERS ... !!!
            1. +1
              24 June 2014 10: 32
              Quote: Armagedon
              Hmm ... Putin, if something called HUNNYAT ... BENDERS ... !!!

              Sir, pliz, read the story (well, or, in extreme cases, Wikipedia).
              Not Bendery (this is the character of Ilf and Petrov), but BANDERS (From the name of Stepan BANDERA). Here, somewhere like that. hi
              1. +5
                24 June 2014 11: 14
                If you troll on ukrosaytah, then it’s better to write Benders, it makes angry banderlogs ...
              2. 0
                25 June 2014 16: 57
                Quote: papik09
                Not Bendery (this is the character of Ilf and Petrov)

                Bender seems to be a city after all.
        2. kombat58
          +2
          24 June 2014 09: 50
          Everyone knows and understands about BANDER!
          Bandera from the name of their Fuhrer and ideological mastermind of Bandera.
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    3. +2
      24 June 2014 08: 51
      I am convinced that RUSSIA will prevail over the United States and its lackeys, it’s just that we’ll lose world peace and never think of other thoughts! Many normal people are waiting for and praying for our victory, we’re the only ones who can put in their place USA.
    4. +7
      24 June 2014 09: 00
      Quote: fvandaku
      Hold on guys the fracture is already close.

      Hope dies last. Putin will be right if he does not surrender Ukraine. The main message in the article is absolutely correct: no concessions on Ukraine will stop the US attack on Russia. Cold war, "hot" - now is the time for action on all fronts, and the economic one is the favorite of this ethnic group of merchants. One should expect everything from the Anglo-Saxons: financing the terrorist underground, economic sabotage, inciting nationalist hatred, provoking local military conflicts on the borders ... Leaving such a huge hotbed of tension as Ukraine in the hands of the United States is an unforgivable strategic mistake. Moreover, the war has been declared, there is nowhere to retreat and there is no point: the reason for sanctions next time will be infringement of the rights of polar bears. And allies are not attracted to a show of weakness.
    5. +6
      24 June 2014 10: 13
      Quote: fvandaku
      Because today “Putin is Russia's conscience”

      But let's not create another cult of personality. There were already comments on the forum containing only an exclamation of the Putin-wise type, and forum users gave this thoughtful thoughtfulness to a bunch of pluses. Of course, the situation is tense, a new round of the West-Russia Cold War, so the consolidation of society around the government is natural however, it is necessary to use a dialectical approach: in everything it is necessary to have a sense of proportion in terms of a sound assessment of the activities of the authorities, on the other hand, to support the authorities, to protect against the attacks of destructive forces that set themselves the goal of harming Russia through false criticisms of the authorities. this is the difference between patriots who criticize power for the good of Russia and the fifth column that seeks to harm Russia. I wish all of us to be patriots and not slide into Sharykov’s approval.
    6. +1
      24 June 2014 20: 48
      what a fracture is close there !? Putin asks the Federation Council to withdraw the decision on the use of force in Ukraine. Is it too close in which direction? can someone explain ah!
    7. 0
      26 June 2014 20: 06
      In the early 1950s, the humane Soviet government decided this way: those who are on the shoulders in blood can still be judged, and those who are only on the elbow should be released in peace. But in vain! On a land where 20 million people died from the Nazis, the aspen stake must be driven into Nazism all the way. To the descendants of the Nazis to the seventh generation, with the words “Bandera”, “Shukhevych” and “Glory to the nation!” involuntarily urinated in his pants ... They didn’t score a stake - here we have what we have.
  2. +9
    24 June 2014 08: 17
    I do not think that in New Russia they will be deceived. But regrouping forces before the offensive is useful.
    1. +9
      24 June 2014 08: 30
      No matter how much they talk about a truce, a cessation of hostilities - all this is EMPTY WORDS !!!

      In fact, only promises can be seen, backed by vile attacks, blocking the water of Donbass, etc.

      Until there is real evidence, you cannot compromise, otherwise there will be a shot in the back!
      1. +7
        24 June 2014 08: 48
        Yes, the junta is taking time out to regroup and pull up reserves. As long as Kalomoisky is alive, the war in the south-east will continue. There is no need to deceive yourself. All their "peace initiatives" are a bluff, an attempt to create a "good face" in a bloody "game". Until the gangs of punishers are returned to their places of deployment (or better yet, disbanded), the threat remains. We must be ready for battle.
        1. +5
          24 June 2014 08: 58
          Quote: Naum
          and even better - dissolved)

          You can not dissolve! Then look for them all over Ukraine.
          Regarding the "truce". Why, it is enough to simply shoot into the air from the side of the junta and the militias will answer. And then go prove who fired first! This is where the "authorities" play. Painfully, they now have a sense of false security has grown against the backdrop of NATO statements
        2. 0
          24 June 2014 10: 35
          Quote: Naum
          Yes, the junta is taking time out to regroup and pull up reserves. As long as Kalomoisky is alive, the war in the south-east will continue. There is no need to deceive yourself. All their "peace initiatives" are a bluff, an attempt to create a "good face" in a bloody "game". Until the gangs of punishers are returned to their places of deployment (or better yet, disbanded), the threat remains. We must be ready for battle.

          By the way, my opinion is exactly the same. Unfortunately. But, I think that the end of the ceasefire will show will show everything that was intended. recourse
          1. +1
            24 June 2014 19: 04
            Quote: papik09
            Quote: Naum
            Yes, the junta is taking time out to regroup and pull up reserves. As long as Kalomoisky is alive, the war in the south-east will continue. There is no need to deceive yourself. All their "peace initiatives" are a bluff, an attempt to create a "good face" in a bloody "game". Until the gangs of punishers are returned to their places of deployment (or better yet, disbanded), the threat remains. We must be ready for battle.

            By the way, my opinion is exactly the same. Unfortunately. But, I think that the end of the ceasefire will show will show everything that was intended. recourse

            I will add to what has been said, most likely in parallel to Vova, Western "friends" are making proposals and so far we have not won.
            As for the conflict - these are just the beginning, the whole conflict is yet to come. Now Western leaders are building a peacekeeping image of Poroshenko and a bloody insurgent. I think the ceasefire will be frustrated and some sort of bloody terrorist attack, train bombing or shelling of a hospital where all the blame will fall on the militia will be raised Western media
            It’s not long to wait, it will be possible to check soon
  3. johnsnz
    +3
    24 June 2014 08: 19
    Fashington - correctly noticed! Do not dare to make an ethnic cleansing theater out of Donbass!
  4. +7
    24 June 2014 08: 22
    Today, Russia is afraid of Western sanctions counterproductive: they will still be.

    Everything is brought to this .. Even if Russia gives everything up and all the same they will find a reason to completely crush us .. We have nowhere to retreat and we will not be able to sit out (I would like with less losses) It's true with us!
  5. +6
    24 June 2014 08: 23
    Victory is near, we have all of Russia, all Russians.
    And the Dill have only "mova" and 23 years of brainwashing (although I don't even know what to call what is in their heads).
    Let the so-called "fifth column" fall on the historical homeland, bathe in the Dead Sea (you cannot drown there, the salinity is high, and g ..., as you know, does not sink).

    Special greetings to Egoze.
    1. +10
      24 June 2014 08: 55
      Quote: baitly
      Special greetings to Egoze.

      Thanks! And about the negotiations ...
      "- Negotiations with Kiev can be started only after seven conditions are fulfilled. It is necessary to withdraw illegal armed groups from the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics - Kolomoisky's battalion, fighters of the National Guard, as well as units of the Ukrainian army, special police battalions - all those who shoot at peaceful residents, - said Oleg Tsarev.
      The second condition, which was put forward by representatives of the people's republics, was the payment by Kiev of compensation to the families of the dead and wounded. In addition, the country's authorities must pay compensation to the municipalities for the damage caused - destroyed water pipes and other urban infrastructure, compensate the damage to the owners of industrial enterprises, whose areas and buildings were destroyed during the shelling by soldiers.
      Another condition is that the president of Ukraine and representatives of the people's republics must agree on a draft constitutional act defining the status of the republics and guarantee amnesty to all participants in the movement, all those against whom criminal cases have been initiated and those currently on the wanted list.
      - Only after meeting all these conditions can we start negotiations. This is not an ultimatum, this is our position. And most importantly, the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko should call everything that happened in many cities of the DPR and LPR a crime and disown these events. People who are involved in shelling houses and killing civilians must be punished. This is very important to us. "
      XXXX
      It is not known what they really bargained for (except for the promise of a ceasefire by the militias), but at least it’s clear what they want in the DPR
      1. nvv
        nvv
        +1
        24 June 2014 09: 28
        Fidget, there is no claim to you, you only voiced the terms of the negotiations. And the conditions are bullshit. Now, the authorities have abandoned everything and rushed to fulfill the conditions. Yes, and the authorities are not in the Rada, but in the State Department. So, even at the wrong address, they turned
      2. nicollider
        +7
        24 June 2014 09: 36
        these are not 7 conditions. these are surrender terms with reparation requirements
        1. badger1974
          0
          25 June 2014 08: 27
          these are not 7 conditions. these are surrender terms with reparation requirements

          unfortunately, these conditions are not feasible, and the losses are catastrophic from the junta, and discontent is growing every hour in the western regions, the conclusion is clear, the outskirts of which you never knew before will need to be understood in order to make forecasts
      3. +3
        24 June 2014 10: 42
        Quote: Egoza
        It is not known what they really bargained for (except for the promise of a ceasefire by the militias), but at least it’s clear what they want in the DPR

        Elena, but you, as always, "look at the root" love . I’ll just add that the most optimal would be not just the withdrawal of troops, etc., but ALL MILITARY DIVISIONS AND EQUIPMENT — IN PLACES OF PERMANENT DISLOCATION, BATTALIONS (it’s ridiculous to call them like this with a strength of 300 people) —DISARM AND DISSOLVE, DO NOT SEND A REPRESENTATIVE (S) TO DONBASS, BUT PERSONAL TO GO.
        That would be a VERY GOOD PLAN to resolve this lawlessness. Then Poroshenko could boldly say: "I did not start this war, BUT I STOPPED IT."
      4. +1
        24 June 2014 11: 59
        [quote = Fidget] And about the negotiations ... [/ quote
        Good day, Elena!
        I always carefully read your comments, and I really like your "sober" analysis of what is happening. From your comment I learned what conditions the militias are putting forward.
        In my opinion, these conditions will not be taken into account. Since when the mess started on the Maidan, agreements were signed. The junta rejected them.
        In Geneva, agreements were signed, the junta rejected them.
        If agreements are reached now, this will lead to nothing. The junta will continue to terrorize the population, and the West will "yell" that Russia supports the separatists.
  6. +1
    24 June 2014 08: 23

    The junta feels its inglorious end.
    1. +1
      24 June 2014 08: 44
      The junta hears the bear breathing behind him.

      Afraid of turning around!
      1. +4
        24 June 2014 09: 51
        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        The junta hears the bear breathing behind him.

        Afraid of turning around!


        Sow two banderivtsiv in haste. Odyn kazhe:
        - Kume, as if from Mosk @ whether I should see yi z kulemeta zustrina, and you climb out on the yalina and open the mane with a carbine.

        Mosk @ whether proyihaly, and do not cut the coulamet.

        Kum zlize zalyny:

        - And why didn’t you cut them? Chu, that you hooted, mabut z fear.
        - That I don’t fear, and the kind of sayenoyu lyuti! (Furious rage).
        Onigdod

  7. +7
    24 June 2014 08: 23
    I think that one step will not be enough. Too positive outlook. It’s still necessary to fight and how much the confrontation drags on is unknown.
  8. +6
    24 June 2014 08: 24
    I think that at these negotiations the question will not be about federalization, but about the complete independence of the DPR. Naturally, the junta will not agree to this, so the carnage will continue with renewed vigor.
  9. irina.mmm
    +4
    24 June 2014 08: 25
    Yesterday, GDP again said -federalization. This is the only way for the southeast. And an inner feeling suggests that it will.
    1. +3
      24 June 2014 09: 25
      not only independence now.
  10. +2
    24 June 2014 08: 26
    Quote: baitly
    And the Dill have only "mova" and 23 years of brainwashing (although I don't even know what to call what is in their heads).


    They have a pea in their head riding, the decision depends on which cavity it rolls into. what
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 10: 45
      Quote: CrazyBear
      Quote: baitly
      And the Dill have only "mova" and 23 years of brainwashing (although I don't even know what to call what is in their heads).

      hi
      They have a pea in their head riding, the decision depends on which cavity it rolls into. what

      In such cases I ask: "What do you have in the container between your ears? Or are you just eating there?" wassat
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  12. +13
    24 June 2014 08: 27
    Thank you Victor! I agree with you on all 100! (Now I am writing to you in VO)
    Putin is us, I have no doubt, and Bashmet is our Talent, and Talent is always right!
    Words are always superfluous in a war, so Putin is silent.
    I guess I will get a lot of minuses for my statement, and this will only strengthen my opinion)))
    1. +7
      24 June 2014 08: 33
      Until recently, Makarevich was our talent too. Only now, many are doubtful of his correctness. So talent, alas, is far from always right.
      1. +5
        24 June 2014 08: 54
        Makarevich - Tsuka. all musicians of his group are miserable. except him. one musician even disappeared 10 years ago? apartment selected ???????
    2. +2
      24 June 2014 10: 46
      Quote: shishakova
      I guess I will get a lot of minuses for my statement, and this will only strengthen my opinion)))

      Figs to you, not cons drinks
  13. +4
    24 June 2014 08: 31
    The confrontation of Russia against the dark forces. Good article +.
  14. Serg7281
    +9
    24 June 2014 08: 35
    I agree with the author of the article. The main thing that managed to put the junta and the militias at the negotiating table. At the negotiations, the militia will not be alone, it will be much easier for Russia to defend their interests. No one will be able to accuse Russia of escalating tensions, but if the junta behaves as in gas negotiations, then it will become clear not only for us and New Russia that the neighboring side is inadequate and it is useless to talk about anything. Then, Russia will have its hands untied in terms of supporting Novorossia with everything necessary.
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 08: 58
      Quote: Serg7281
      No one will be able to accuse Russia of escalating tensions, but if the junta behaves as in gas negotiations, then it will become clear not only for us and New Russia that the neighboring side is inadequate and it is useless to talk about anything

      Absolutely right! +++
  15. +3
    24 June 2014 08: 39
    Chicks in the fall consider- a good Russian proverb! When gas, electricity, absolutely everything prices are raised in the autumn, then when there is nothing to buy for (after all, they didn’t sow anything of their own), then maybe MAIDANUTY will come to their full head what they have done! But it will be very late, very much! !!!!!
  16. +2
    24 June 2014 08: 40
    One thing is for sure - not to be fascism in the Southeast and in general in Ukraine ...
  17. +1
    24 June 2014 08: 40
    “Given the inevitable confrontation with the West, Russia cannot give rise to suspicion of betraying its allies, and is obliged to defend the Novorossiysk republics, where referendums in favor of self-determination were held. and even by forceful pressure from Bandera. Otherwise, the population of Novorossiya will end up in the concentration camps of the Bandera Nazis, and this will become a political catastrophe for Russia. "

    Isn't it clear to someone else :(

    "This is where the foreseeable future ends, and the boundless terra incognita begins ..."
    - no incognito, and it’s clear that then the war will spill over into both Russia and Europe - the gay men will not be able to sit out, as was the case in 1939-40!

    "However, no matter what strategic decision Putin makes about Ukraine, he will still be right and will be supported by the people. Such are the circumstances in Russia and the world today."
    - this is alas, yes, but alas because the price of this is many lives of PEACEFUL people in Slavyansk: (((
    1. +1
      24 June 2014 09: 22
      "However, no matter what strategic decision Putin makes about Ukraine, he will still be right and will be supported by the people." a similar statement by the author, in my opinion, is nothing more than wishful thinking! There are really a lot of people who drain the New Russia Pu ... will not forgive, and then he really will need to scratch his head! And these people will no longer be with white ribbons, but with St. George’s, and not with balls in the square they will go, but with another, with what they bring with them from the southeast!
  18. +2
    24 June 2014 08: 43
    article minus.
    Again from empty to empty, and minus for this:

    In Donbass, obviously, the war scenario will be repeated 08.08.08


    Obviously ?! It’s obvious to me that this scenario is no longer relevant! Unfortunately, in New Russia, the South Ossetian scenario of 1991 is repeated. But the war went on for more than a year and claimed a lot of Ossetian lives ... I don’t know why it was so decided. To all those who want to say that an invasion of Russia would be an act of aggression, I want to poke in the Crimea. It wasn’t in any way drawn up. Neither the UN nor the war, there was nothing to send troops (it was of course, but is hiddenotherwise they would not be entered). They raised the question - held a referendum - chopped off the Crimea, that's it! Why pester Donbass? So that they are strongly imbued with hatred of Kiev and be completely in our hands? In short, we are ugly going to the Donbass. It was beautiful in Crimea. A sight for sore eyes!
    1. +3
      24 June 2014 09: 01
      I’ll also add - to 08.08.08 over 80% of Abkhazians and South Ossetians had Russian citizenship, which gave Russia a legal reason to protect its citizens
  19. +4
    24 June 2014 08: 43
    One must look at the attitude towards gays. If the leader approves - a friend of the Americans. Putin is the enemy of gays, then everything is fine :)
  20. yurik
    +12
    24 June 2014 08: 44
    more confidence in Strelkov, who said that this truce is only a temporary respite before a decisive attack on the Donbass, so that all these meetings are full of bullshit, after 27 there will be fierce battles
  21. Stypor23
    +2
    24 June 2014 08: 45
    Donbass, with the support of Russia, will start its anti-terrorist operation against fascist elements. And when the fucking parasites, doubles of Himler and others like them, run away from the burning ministries the next day, it will be possible to finally finish off the Lviv shortcomings.
  22. Dbnfkmtdbx
    +4
    24 June 2014 08: 49
    In fact, a small handful of ghouls has muddied such crap that Mama don’t cry, Gogol is envious, evenings on a Kiev farm, slow down while you still have the opportunity to pray forgiveness from the nevino killed, HOPE REMEMBER !!!!!!!!! fool
    1. +9
      24 June 2014 09: 57
      Quote: Dbnfkmtdbx
      In fact, a small handful of ghouls muddied such crap that Mama don’t cry, Gogol is envious,



      Morkva on the Town, / At the Bjola Garden. /
      Toad in the swamps / Krila has blossomed. /
      Want to fly, / Quietly even “Kwa!” /
      Take Heaven to the Sky / Not Yes Moscow.
      Know, know the tricks / Oaths i Mosk @ lі /
      Those who have a repeat / Zhabi are kings. /
      Scho having thrown a krill, / Mov of greens ptah /
      The whole day soared b / Toad in the sky. /
      What could I have done? / Get to the point, /
      Having adjusted Literary / Toad the green God. /
      There is a trimmer, / Tighten to grass. /
      Toad certainly know - / That is the hand of Moscow. /
      Fingers climbed in, / They took Yak. /
      I trim for an egg / Toad mosk @ li ... /
      It seems that you don’t need it. / Say: "Ti online." /
      Ale look into the sky / Toad is all one. /
      I want to pass / Qi grave hours, /
      Doshi zavazhayut / Toad Russian psi. /
      Godi, damn the bitch, / Gold Moscow /
      The toad is not dead yet, / The toad is still alive. /
      Toad Porin / In the blue far, /
      Bo nemanє nini / More beautiful than toads.
      »
      - Andriy Gorobchuk
      «
      Morkva in the garden / Bee in the garden /
      Toad in the swamp / Wings spread /
      Wants to soar / Quietly mumbles “Kwa!” /
      Only soar into the sky / Moscow does not allow /
      They know, they know for sure / oaths mosk @ li /
      What's in the air kingdom / Toads - kings /
      What spread your wings / Like a green bird /
      Soared all day b / Toad in the sky /
      Could fly / right up to the stars she /
      What she flutter only / created by God /
      Just holding something / Pulls to grass /
      Toad knows for sure / That is the hand of Moscow /
      those steel fingers / like a ring I took / /
      And they hold the eggs / toad mosk @ li /
      They say: “do not, / toad, you are shit” /
      Only looking at the sky / Toad anyway /
      And let them pass / heavy hours /
      Still hindering / toad Russian-dogs. /
      Wait, paskuda, / Moscow
      The toad has not died, / and is still alive /
      The toad will soon take off / into the blue distance /
      After all, a beautiful toad / God did not create. /
      »
      - translation of anonymous group
  23. +2
    24 June 2014 08: 52
    Confrontation with America and the West ?! Gentlemen, when was Russia easy? God will not give out the pig will not eat. Break through!
  24. +10
    24 June 2014 08: 54
    Putin is now perhaps the only independent president in the world. Even Obamka, it's no secret, is very afraid of his oligarchs. Putin treats oligarchs "with less piety" (remember Khodorkovsky and Berezovsky).
    The main hope for him now, on his will and inflexibility, will depend on whether the world is unipolar, with the hegemony of the States, or the Junkers will temper their ardor and begin to (at least a little bit) reckon with the opinions of other superpowers.
    This is not just a civil war in southeastern Ukraine, not even a war between Russia and the United States - it is a war of the East and West. Do not forget that in the east we have a very powerful ally - China.
    The stench from the West will spread anyway, even if Russia will not do anything at all. And the time has come to act! As they say, we didn’t start it - so don’t be offended!
    1. wrm
      wrm
      +3
      24 June 2014 12: 09
      I would be more careful with China. A partner - yes, an ally - only when there is a personal benefit. Vests will not tear. And just a little, it may turn out to be the enemy.
  25. +6
    24 June 2014 08: 56
    One People's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has already stated that Potroshenko’s negotiations with Novorossia are not legitimate and no one gave him rights .. And, characteristically, he is right .. Those negotiations that are planned to be held by Ukraine are not legitimate .. Why ... we’re waiting -with Maidan-2 to remove Potroshenko or the coup .. in the Rada ..
    1. +8
      24 June 2014 09: 05
      Quote: parusnik
      One People's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has already stated that Potroshenko’s negotiations with Novorossia are not legitimate and no one gave him the right.

      So Poroshenko "keeps his word" Personally, he does not negotiate with terrorists. Sent Kuchma !!! But more recently ...
      “This is how fate sometimes unfolds. Yesterday - Satan, who did not accidentally repeat the fate of Gaddafi and Hussein, the“ killer ”of the hitherto unknown journalist Gongadze, the main person involved in Melnichenko's tapes, the supplier of“ chain mail ”to Iraq and in general, the target is in the dash of a complete Kuchmagate with a contemptuous demonstrative European seating arrangements "in French." And today, you see, a messenger and a negotiator. " (Controversy)
  26. +4
    24 June 2014 08: 58
    Article minus a lot of unverified information on arms deliveries, etc. You can’t substitute Russia with your own! language is MY enemy, it is necessary to follow the statements, and take an example from Lavrov!
  27. +7
    24 June 2014 08: 58
    If you set emotions aside:
    1) Putin always said that Donbass and Ukraine should live together, and should agree among themselves
    2) Putin asked to postpone the Donetsk referendum, but not persistently, they ignored Putin, either because they too believed in their own strength, or hoping for an early military intervention by Russia
    3) Putin was persistent in one thing - first the cessation of hostilities, then conversations.
    4) Either the Powder curators loosened their grip (Iraq needs to be shut up) or he begins to choke on what the country should steer - not turn caramels, but he declared a truce, thin, full of holes, but there is one.
    5) Immediately, Putin takes a step towards and organizes negotiations.
    6) Inspired by the DPR sharply sends cues, but Putin persuades them to soften the rhetoric and, perhaps, asks to limit the requirements to the recognition of the republics and not to require the gallows for Avakov and Kalomoysha.

    Winter is coming, neither Russia needs a humanitarian catastrophe, nor is it unbelievable for Ukraine. Yes, and in winter you can’t run through the green.
    In short, I inserted my two pennies. I think the powder will shake the team, butte will merge (yulyashka hiding behind a stone for a reason), will take a more constructive position, give the republics a federal status, and the Feisty will economically suppress further federalization.
  28. 0
    24 June 2014 09: 01
    Alexander Romanov (1) RU ..., in which apparently only traitors live.

    Rather, in all the "organs" that are looking for traitors - SICK people, persecuted by a MANIA of betrayal, who should be treated in a good way in psychiatric clinics, if any of them can avoid the "guillotine" ...
  29. 0
    24 June 2014 09: 03
    very interesting, the analysis of the situation is subjective, but there is a place to be, the more analysts, the more accurate will be the understanding of the reaction to certain events, as they say wait and see. But the fact that Kiev doesn’t hold the Donbass region unambiguously, it’s time for them to think about how to cover their asses today, they have already done a lot of work, the criminals are also known, the responsibility is inevitable for them where they will run, that’s the enemy No. 1 ... bully hi
  30. +9
    24 June 2014 09: 07
    Maybe someone will come in handy .. Children are saved!
  31. +3
    24 June 2014 09: 09
    That is, even if “Putin” makes a mistake, he will still be right: he has the right to make a mistake, this will be our collective mistake. Because today “Putin is Russia's conscience,” said musician Yuri Bashmet.

    What nonsense ... Putin will send troops to the South-East of Ukraine - he will be right. It will not enter - it will be right. Gas Ukraine is stealing, they will show it the bill - Putin is right, Ukrainians will silently pump gas, compensate for theft so that the West does not suffer - Putin is right. What nonsense ... So hammer in general at any discussion of politics (external and internal): what difference does what is being done in Ukraine, what difference does Serdyukov put in or not, what difference does it make for everything or not. Putin is always right. Right since 2000. Great helmsman.
    1. -4
      24 June 2014 10: 19
      And what? In your opinion, are you right? Let’s elect you president! That’s rubbish, so rubbish !!!!
      1. +2
        24 June 2014 12: 40
        And he doesn’t say he’s right. He just draws attention to the fact that the author has agreed to marasmus. This is definitely to Kashchenko for consultation on issues of collective intelligence. So it’s not far off and to such a dialogue: "You are all fools! Yes! Hurray", "You are not all fools! Of course! Hurray!"
        Head not only eat, she still needs to think. At least sometimes, so that the car does not crush. laughing
      2. 0
        24 June 2014 20: 31
        Quote: xbhxbr-777
        And what? Do you think you're right?

        Madam, what am I wrong with? Essentially a comment.

        Quote: xbhxbr-777
        Let's choose you president!

        Lets do it. I'm not against.

        Quote: xbhxbr-777
        Here is nonsense, so nonsense !!!!

        What is it? In your "thoughtful" comment? Yes, I agree. And so, you have no more thoughts.
  32. +1
    24 June 2014 09: 15
    Under the guise of "negotiations", fresh troops will now be brought up, supplied, reconnoitred and occupied convenient points. When everything is ready, one of the checkpoints "will be fired upon by evil separatists", perhaps even a wounded person will be. In general, now is the time to take out the wounded, everything valuable and important. Accumulate ammunition, medicine and food. Send your family a farewell letter and get ready to reap the benefits of "negotiation processes with partners." Your favorite pastime you know who. I wonder if it will come to him someday, or he will buy into this divorce until he is thrown out for unnecessary reasons, and then write his memoirs - "I just wanted to be loved, but everyone deceived me."
  33. calocha
    +3
    24 June 2014 09: 18
    They will gain freedom if they are helped by WEAPONS, MEDICINES, FOOD, CLOTHES AND SHOES, VOLUNTEERS AND SPECIALISTS. Otherwise, New Russia is doomed to defeat !!!!!
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. +1
      24 June 2014 09: 53
      If the Donbass takes shape as a sovereign state with its regular army, then it will begin to grow in other areas of New Russia. This can not be stopped.
      1. calocha
        +2
        24 June 2014 10: 31
        As they say in Odessa, If my mother-in-law had wheels instead of legs, then it would not be mother-in-law, but - TARANTAS!))))
  34. +2
    24 June 2014 09: 20
    The main thing is not limited to the liberation of the DPR and LPR, but to liberate the whole of New Russia.
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 10: 32
      These are the right thoughts! We need to go to Washington! Then there will be world peace!
  35. nicollider
    +1
    24 June 2014 09: 40
    a truce can use not only the junta. Given the centrifugal processes in the Kiev authorities themselves - time plays against them.
  36. +2
    24 June 2014 09: 41
    And to the accompaniment of anti-Russian sanctions, the world will plunge into the Second World Cold War.
    No need to be an ostrich and you have to honestly admit to yourself - the Cold War has already begun. And act appropriately.
  37. +1
    24 June 2014 09: 54
    Quote: CrazyBear
    They have a pea in their head riding, the decision depends on which cavity it rolls into.


    they don’t have a pea in their head, a kilogram of a fraction makes a Brownian motion
  38. yuriy-48
    +1
    24 June 2014 09: 58
    Ukrainian potatoes were banned, and "Roshen" Poroshenko works (Lipetsk), makes a profit, who ???? We talk about double standards, but we ourselves are doing crap. At someone we poke a finger, and we rinse ourselves in the dermis, praising power.
  39. Gexzloy
    +1
    24 June 2014 10: 00
    The author has not decided whether there are Russian tanks or not?

    "Now the militias are receiving reinforcements with men and equipment, even tanks."
    "weighed down with paraphrenic visions of" Russian tanks going through Ukraine. "
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 10: 27
      Can I answer for the author? There are no tanks with the inscription "This tank was made by me, Ivanov Ivan Ivanovich, Russian in the 20th generation" in Novorossiya. Give the definition of "Russian tank". And then ask - is there or not.
  40. +9
    24 June 2014 10: 04
    Unconstructive tantrum. Look carefully, everything that Putin has done has led to negotiations.
    1. Militias held with the support of Russia.
    2. Russia has withdrawn troops from the border to show the west, we will do as you ask, but it will be worse.
    3. Russia returned troops to the border and began full-scale exercises and training in the event of a military conflict. Namely, the crossing of the Ukrainian army of the borders of Russia.
    4. Calm ignoring the provocation for Russia to send troops.
    5. Russia did not begin to clean and correct mistakes for the USA and the EU.
    6. Russia transferred Ukraine to prepayment, despite pressure from the West.
    Fear, that’s what Poroshenko and the West now own, they don’t know what to do. And when you do not know what to do, you must do as Russia wants. They still have the hope that during the negotiations, it will be possible, by pressure, to find a loophole to force Russia to do as they want. After all, they don’t want to admit that the West has done a lot of things.
    Calm down with your provocation, you and your owners lost. Further it will be worse for Ukraine, the USA and the EU. Russia and the southeast have nothing to blame.
  41. -6
    24 June 2014 10: 13
    It’s rather a step away from a humanitarian catastrophe. And Putin’s position on the DPR and LPR is very slurred.
  42. -6
    24 June 2014 10: 18
    Quote: "they (the elections) were held under the propaganda and even forceful pressure from the Banderaites" ... that's not true. Everyone was frankly all the same who and how voted, even at the factories for the first time no one campaigned for anyone and called on to vote according to their conscience ... so the author - don't whistle ...
    1. +5
      24 June 2014 10: 29
      Quote: Makarov
      even in factories for the first time no one campaigned for anyone and called to vote in good faith ...

      It doesn’t matter who votes for whom, it matters who counts.
      1. +1
        24 June 2014 11: 38
        but I didn’t write that they were honest ... I wrote that no one forced anyone to head for one or another ... it turns out from the words of the author that they were forced to vote by force, while the polling stations were empty .. ..
  43. 0
    24 June 2014 10: 40
    Correctly. Nearly. But what were the options? What access to stinking media of Ukrainian information and which of the candidates did you have? The author does not whistle. Five minutes - go through the SSU, pressure is not just the AK barrel in the back.
  44. Bombardier
    +1
    24 June 2014 10: 44
    I apologize not for the topic, but interesting information:
    MOSCOW, Jun 24 - RIA News. The Indian authorities are ready to begin negotiations with Moscow on the extension of the gas pipeline, which Russia plans to build in China, to the Indian border, the Financial Express newspaper wrote on Tuesday.
    In the event of the implementation of such a project, this gas pipeline will become one of the longest in the world, the newspaper notes.
    According to the newspaper, the government of the new Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi, aims to expand the number of oil and gas sources to meet the growing demand for energy in the country. In this regard, the Indian delegation during the next BRIC summit, scheduled for July 2014, intends to raise the issue of extending the new gas pipeline to the agenda.


    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140624/1013320956.html#ixzz35XLF2qIu
  45. Vicus
    -6
    24 June 2014 10: 54
    http://topwar.ru/52610-donbass-v-shage-do-svobody.html
    Donbass a step away from Freedom?



    Agreeing with the author of the article, I would like to draw a perspective of the next three months:

    So, the moment - February 22 - the entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into Ukraine did not take place due to the cowardice of the Russian authorities. Historical chance - lost! If everything continues, as it continues, in three months the first frosts will come. The fascist junta will do everything to drag out this process of confrontation between the two worlds until the first frosts. The entire destroyed urban infrastructure of the southeast, in order to prepare for the winter, cannot be restored. In this case, the entire southeast - the DPR and LPR will fall into the grip of incredible natural tests (without water, electricity, gas, heating and sewage). And this, subject to the blockade, is a disaster!

    What to do? - If the government of the Russian Federation wants to permanently lose the respect of the Slavic-Russian population of the southeast, and not be accused of betraying the majority of the Slavic-Russian Donbass-forming population, it was already necessary yesterday to bring the CIS Peacekeeping troops into the territory of southeast Ukraine, and to throw money on the restoration of cities and villages throughout Donbass. Otherwise - the end! In this case, the entire population of southeastern Ukraine will curse not Kiev’s power, but Russia, which left 7,0 million of our brothers to the mercy of destroying the Kiev junta.

    On the other hand, all other regions of Ukraine will establish themselves in the opinion that they did the right thing, that they did not support Russia in the initiatives of the DNI and LC, and a priori did not speak of the Russian Federation against the anti-state and anti-constitutional coup in Ukraine on February 21, 2014. And this means the final funeral of all the hopes of the Slavs of the southeast and all of Ukraine associated with their salvation by Great Russia.

    So, either - the immediate entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into the DPR and LPR, or - reap the full contempt of all the peoples of Ukraine and all of Eurasia, up to small tribal formations such as RUSSINS.

    Thirdly, the illegally elected Ukraine P. Poroshenko will easily receive carte blanche for the further genocide of the Slavic-Russian population throughout Ukraine, and, most importantly, after entering the EU - in connection with the association - the entry of troops to Ukraine to the borders RF and immediate further provocatively fascist escalation in the arm of Russia. In short ... Ah, this is WAR!

    ...
  46. Vicus
    -3
    24 June 2014 10: 54
    ...

    PS
    So, V. Putin never used KOZYR - V. Yanukovych, in the variant of the immediate entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Forces into Ukraine on February 22, 2014. The historic CHANCE of the full return of Ukraine according to the REGISTER of the Russian Empire to the Russian Federation is LOST!

    The political and strategic miscalculation of the Russian Federation lies entirely with the collegiate conscience of the SBRF, the State Duma of the Russian Federation and the Senate of the Russian Federation! Engaged in China (gas!), And Ukraine - completely lost, if not forever. It was impossible to stop at the amazing return of the Crimea. Immediately - on February 22, 2014, it was necessary to introduce the CIS Peacekeeping troops up to the Polish border. There wouldn’t even be on the horizon: Turchinov, Avakov, Poroshenko and the entire fascist scum, with gas problems of Gazprom. The greed of Gazprom and its shareholders provoked a forced signing of agreements with the PRC, while the fascist junta strengthened its position. Association in the EU / NATO is on the verge. And it can not be avoided. Ah, this is WAR!

    Why did I write a PS?
    And, in order for the Russian government to immediately draw conclusions, it analyzed the strategic mistakes made by the Security Council of the Russian Federation, and, henceforth, they were not allowed! The FUTURE of the whole of Russia is set on the counter!


    Victor Rusakov
    http://rusvic.ru/
    .
  47. Vicus
    -1
    24 June 2014 10: 56
    http://topwar.ru/52610-donbass-v-shage-do-svobody.html
    Donbass a step away from Freedom?



    Agreeing with the author of the article, I would like to draw a perspective of the next three months:

    So, the moment - February 22 - the entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into Ukraine did not take place due to the cowardice of the Russian authorities. Historical chance - lost! If everything continues, as it continues, in three months the first frosts will come. The fascist junta will do everything to drag out this process of confrontation between the two worlds until the first frosts. The entire destroyed urban infrastructure of the southeast, in order to prepare for the winter, cannot be restored. In this case, the entire southeast - the DPR and LPR will fall into the grip of incredible natural tests (without water, electricity, gas, heating and sewage). And this, subject to the blockade, is a disaster!

    What to do? - If the government of the Russian Federation wants to permanently lose the respect of the Slavic-Russian population of the southeast, and not be accused of betraying the majority of the Slavic-Russian Donbass-forming population, it was already necessary yesterday to bring the CIS Peacekeeping troops into the territory of southeast Ukraine, and to throw money on the restoration of cities and villages throughout Donbass. Otherwise - the end! In this case, the entire population of southeastern Ukraine will curse not Kiev’s power, but Russia, which left 7,0 million of our brothers to the mercy of destroying the Kiev junta.

    On the other hand, all other regions of Ukraine will establish themselves in the opinion that they did the right thing, that they did not support Russia in the initiatives of the DNI and LC, and a priori did not speak of the Russian Federation against the anti-state and anti-constitutional coup in Ukraine on February 21, 2014. And this means the final funeral of all the hopes of the Slavs of the southeast and all of Ukraine associated with their salvation by Great Russia.

    So, either - the immediate entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Force into the DPR and LPR, or - reap the full contempt of all the peoples of Ukraine and all of Eurasia, up to small tribal formations such as RUSSINS.

    Thirdly, the illegally elected Ukraine P. Poroshenko will easily receive carte blanche for the further genocide of the Slavic-Russian population throughout Ukraine, and, most importantly, after entering the EU - in connection with the association - the entry of troops to Ukraine to the borders RF and immediate further provocatively fascist escalation in the arm of Russia. In short ... Ah, this is WAR!

    ...
  48. Vicus
    +1
    24 June 2014 10: 58
    ...

    PS
    So, V. Putin never used KOZYR - V. Yanukovych, in the variant of the immediate entry of the CIS Peacekeeping Forces into Ukraine on February 22, 2014. The historic CHANCE of the full return of Ukraine according to the REGISTER of the Russian Empire to the Russian Federation is LOST!

    The political and strategic miscalculation of the Russian Federation lies entirely with the collegiate conscience of the SBRF, the State Duma of the Russian Federation and the Senate of the Russian Federation! Engaged in China (gas!), And Ukraine - completely lost, if not forever. It was impossible to stop at the amazing return of the Crimea. Immediately - on February 22, 2014, it was necessary to introduce the CIS Peacekeeping troops up to the Polish border. There wouldn’t even be on the horizon: Turchinov, Avakov, Poroshenko and the entire fascist scum, with gas problems of Gazprom. The greed of Gazprom and its shareholders provoked a forced signing of agreements with the PRC, while the fascist junta strengthened its position. Association in the EU / NATO is on the verge. And it can not be avoided. Ah, this is WAR!

    Why did I write a PS?
    And, in order for the Russian government to immediately draw conclusions, it analyzed the strategic mistakes made by the Security Council of the Russian Federation, and, henceforth, they did not allow them! The FUTURE of the whole of Russia is set on the counter!


    Victor Rusakov
    http://rusvic.ru/
    .
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 13: 25
      Who are you VicRus? bully Victor, have the "men in black" come to you yet? bully The site is really painful for you, take a note, wait.
  49. +2
    24 June 2014 11: 00
    Fashington is cool))) And on the bill, no matter what Putin does and will be right, one cannot say that. Children need help unequivocally, we have a common border with them, what is in the way? And the West will whine anyway, in any case!
  50. Gexzloy
    +3
    24 June 2014 11: 01
    Quote: tanit
    There are no tanks with the inscription "This tank was made by me, Ivanov Ivan Ivanovich, Russian in the 20th generation" in Novorossiya. Give the definition of "Russian tank". And then ask - is there or not.


    The definition is simple, it is a tank entered the territory of Donbass from the Russian side.

    I have nothing against the article, I am not saying who is right and who is not, but the author contradicts himself.
    First, he writes that Russia certainly helps with tanks, and then he writes that the west unreasonably accuses Russia of military assistance.

    There should be consistency in the article, but we want to see objective information and not once again hang in conjectures and assumptions.
    1. +1
      25 June 2014 07: 04
      Consistency is, if you have not understood.
      We very much hope that Russia is actively helping the Southeast, including and tanks.
      And at the same time, we want our leadership to ask the State Department and its Kiev junto litter "WHERE" with a CINIC smile.
      In general, so that “no thief is caught” and at the same time so that we, ordinary Russians, know that Novorossiya is not merging.
      And to all the attacks of the Junta media, we will answer: "Well, yes, this is as true as the fact that in the sky over Kramatorsk somewhere in April, an Asasda helicopter was shot down, and an air conditioner blew up the Luhansk Regional State Administration, creating a crater within a radius of 100 meters ... after all, like it's coming out, the media said "?
  51. Gexzloy
    0
    24 June 2014 11: 08
    Quote: Bombardier
    MOSCOW, Jun 24 - RIA News. The Indian authorities are ready to begin negotiations with Moscow on the extension of the gas pipeline, which Russia plans to build in China, to the Indian border, the Financial Express newspaper wrote on Tuesday.

    Last week, the embargo on Iran's gas exports was lifted. Iran is No. 1 in terms of its reserves. I don’t know what this means, but there will definitely be a redistribution of the market.

    Quote: VicRus
    the most important thing is - after joining the EU - in connection with the association - the introduction of troops into Ukraine to the borders of the Russian Federation and immediate further provocative fascist escalation into the underbelly of Russia. In short...

    Association does not mean joining NATO, less empty conclusions and panic.
    1. Bombardier
      0
      24 June 2014 11: 22
      I accept your comment, a strong argument, but for India a pipe from Russia (for a ready-made project) may be more profitable and safer, given that India and Iran are separated by Pakistan. And there are no projects for the actual construction of a pipeline from Iran towards India yet. (I apologize for the floridness - I’m in a hurry) Best regards.
  52. 0
    24 June 2014 11: 56
    The question is - will that implicit help be enough? Or will the deployment of troops still be required? But one thing is clear: war is better than the defeat of Novorossiya. And it is not clear what will happen to other regions of Novorossiya - something has been forgotten about them.
    1. zmey_gadukin
      +1
      24 June 2014 17: 49
      Quote: elenagromova
      And it is not clear what will happen to other regions of Novorossiya - something has been forgotten about them.

      These regions really don’t want to see any Girkin-babais on their territories.
      Half of the militia are brave lawless urks. It was not for nothing that they had to introduce a penal battalion and execution.
      And how many gangs, having received weapons, have already spun off from them and are robbing them under the guise of the DPR? You do not know.
  53. Gexzloy
    0
    24 June 2014 11: 59
    Quote: Bombardier
    but for India, a pipe from Russia (for a ready-made project) may be more profitable and safer, given that India and Iran are separated by Pakistan. And there are no projects for the actual construction of a pipeline from Iran towards India yet. (I apologize for the floridness - I’m in a hurry) Best regards.

    I am not familiar with the Asian gas transportation system.
    If Iran has a pipe to Europe, this will be a problem, both for Russia and for Ukraine. After the embargo, the Iranians will definitely be able to dump the price, not to mention political motives. Agree that it was not for nothing that the embargo was lifted right now.

    We were talking about the power of Siberia, since it goes through the eastern part, if I’m not mistaken, it’s not realistic to pull it to India, and there is a mountain range there, as well as in the north of India.

    I don’t know about the current situation in relations between Pakistan and India, they may be tense, but they are very connected economically, it’s difficult to predict; if you wish, you can do it by sea.
    It’s like Ukraine and Russia now, the situation is tense, and economic cooperation is stupidly mutually beneficial
    1. Bombardier
      0
      24 June 2014 12: 27
      Iran has a pipeline to Europe (now)?? Through Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, or maybe bypassing Iraq, Jordan directly through Israel or Syria?
  54. +5
    24 June 2014 12: 00
    It seems to all of us that they are waiting for us there. It seems because this is the first thing that comes to mind from reading and empathy. We all need to step back for a minute from the destroyed cities and refugees seen on TV to try to understand what is happening in Donbass and Lugansk. Firstly, the Crimean version could not be repeated there. Due to the lack of presence there at all of those who consider themselves Ukrainian or Russian. Just at that time, no one in those areas thought about this “immortal and mortal) topic. Exaggerating the population's fear of the right sector at that time, we think that they are homogeneous and thought the same, but this is not at all the case. Part of the population (regardless of nationality) believed and still believes in the Maidan. For them, members of the resistance are enemies and those because of whom a good life ended. Now no one will ever prove to them that under Bandera and Poroshenko it would have been worse. They now know for sure that it’s all because of the Russians and Putin. In these conditions, sending our guys there is a crime. They will be shot in the back while smiling in the eyes. After all, this happened to us recently and continues. Putin is right that in this turbidity he did not moralize all our peoples. Only a fool doesn’t understand that for all the people of the world, all our peoples will be called Russian occupiers who need to be fought. There is no need to push Putin to send troops into rebellious areas. Let the armchair troops be busy counting virtual troupes, and not inciting the country's leadership to a real war. Let our soldiers gain experience in order to be properly prepared and fully ensure the conduct of a ripe military operation. So far, We, Donetsk, Lugansk and Putin are clearly outplaying our opponents. Weapons penetrating into rebellious areas (including heavy and anti-aircraft) draw. These weapons and human trained reserves completely disrupted the blitzkrieg. If anyone follows the speeches of the leaders of the militia, they do not announce a general mobilization to fill their ranks with cannon fodder. They invite people with experience. They are called Specialists in the field of managing and working with weapons, which require quite a long training. It is expensive and often requires narrow specialization. Not to mention those who can carry out special operations. These are not former police officers. This is an army training program that cannot be matched by a police operation. In fact, they created (guess with whose help?) professional forces. For the civilian population there are passages on the border and a structure created by the Ministry of Emergency Situations on the safe territory of Russia. How will their brains get better if they are greeted as if they were family? If we resettle and provide jobs, it will give an effect that no political technologies can match. We need to start rising up to help the state. Not to fight (Putin, with the help of volunteers, can cope without us), but to participate in helping refugees and protecting them from ours and their criminals. Everyone who left their native places and will leave again must be settled for winter and have housing, with our people's help. And further! Stop abusing the word Russian already. There, among the militias there is our entire Russian international, including Ukrainians. They live among us in the Russian Federation and are often among our relatives. Making nicknames for peoples - like Vatnik or Ukrainian - is unworthy. Falling into a national trance is unworthy of a great people. Moreover, the general struggle should be attributed only to the Russians. I am Russian and it is enough for me that victory in the Second World War is considered a victory for all cities of the USSR. Including the smallest ones. This is the strength of the Russian people.
  55. 0
    24 June 2014 12: 49
    24.06.2014/11/15, XNUMX:XNUMX (Moscow time) Synopsis from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

    "About any" truce "in our area there is no question.

    Yesterday, after 18.00, gunfire and positional battles continued in the area of ​​Semenovka. The enemy bombarded the village with mortar fire and continued to "hunt" for passing cars with fire from a tank from his post at the village of Vostochny. As a result, we have 5 lightly wounded, the enemy visually observed the destruction of a freshly deployed mortar calculation.

    This morning, mortars in Semenovka have already been working on both sides. We, unfortunately, again have three wounded, one heavy. Skirmishes continue there, the passage through the village is almost impossible.

    At night, active movements of the infantry and enemy reconnaissance groups in the Kramatorsk area were observed, this morning the enemy set out a number of new checkpoints with armored personnel carriers and Hummer armored vehicles to the west of the city.
  56. 0
    24 June 2014 12: 55
    I hope it will be so.
  57. wanderer_032
    +1
    24 June 2014 13: 01
    Unfortunately, we have to admit that the USA partially managed to pit Slavs in Ukraine among themselves.
    The ideology of offices like the right sector is the ideology of destruction, not creation.
    This is the ideology of endless war.
    Having embarked on this curved track, there is no turning back.
    If the pravoseki hope that they can win by believing in their gobbies Dr. Goebbels and the CIA artificially created in min.propoganda, about how they will happily and richly heal after winning a victory, then they are very mistaken.
    They will not heal, who will give them.
    If they manage to do the dirty work for which the West raised them, then they will all be used up, scum and war criminals are not needed for "white and fluffy" America and Europe.

    The concentration camps they are building in Ukraine for their former fellow citizens from the Donbass and Lugansk regions will be used later to make them those who approved and assisted in their construction.
    Yes, of course, the right-wingers hope to outwit the treacherous Americans and gay men, like we Ukrainians and we are the most cunning. It's not gonna go.

    Strength is not enough, the EU and the US will roll you out. By that time, you will be greatly reduced by the "citizens" of the right-wing sect, there will be fewer in punitive operations in the southeast and in other similar events, and there will be fewer people who want to join you too, as risking your head for an invoice on a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies from the state .depa of the United States, hunters after the flow of zinc with a cargo of 200 from the southeast and so on are like hot spots on the map of Ukraine, it is unlikely to be found.

    This is already happening slowly, and will soon become widespread.
    Of course, you hope that you stop all those who do not want to give their lives for your ideological idiocy, but here you are also very mistaken. You will be swept away, people will already take up arms in order to beat and drive you, because, you will already get everyone with your idiotic idea about the everlasting winter and other heresy.
    So, whatever one may say, you are trapped, you built it yourself, with your own hands.

    You yourself are destroying your country, for the sake of the West. Almost all your fellow citizens already hate you and are thinking how to get rid of you. You are supported only by a part of green youngsters who have not yet built and have done nothing in life. In fact, you are recruiting them into your ranks, depriving your country of the future, because without youth Ukraine will come a full zvezdets.

    While the ichthyanders are bad ... Burn in hell.
  58. +1
    24 June 2014 13: 18
    Interesting article: “Why did the golden hundred need the heavenly hundred” http://evelina-69.livejournal.com/175480.html
  59. 0
    24 June 2014 13: 31
    VikRus is Nemtsov’s assistant?, or deputy. Kasparov?, or maybe this is an underground reporter from Ekhess radio?
    I get this feeling from his posts...
  60. MMX
    0
    24 June 2014 13: 57
    Good day everyone! It is very difficult for an ordinary person to understand the essence of certain actions or events, especially being far from what is happening. You can indirectly guess about something, but it is impossible to be sure. I could be wrong, but I have the feeling that in the South-East of Ukraine there is little support from the population for militias and pro-Russian forces. It is even possible that over time, due to fatigue from the many deprivations (which fell on the heads of ordinary citizens), dangers, and anxiety, they will completely blame Russia for what is happening. Perhaps this is already happening. There is a video on YouTube with Poroshenko (fresh), where he meets with residents and talks. There women from SE ask him questions. There are no hysterics, but the tone of the residents is quite tense. However, Poroshenko confidently countered everything that was said to him. Residents believe he can change the situation. They say thank you. Maybe it’s not so simple with the Donetsk team? Maybe they don’t want to be protected like that? I am convinced that part of the population is sincerely confident in the correctness of their beliefs regarding the protection of SE from the Kyiv authorities. BUT I still see that the other part (not smaller in number, but certainly larger) is far from all this and simply wants to live peacefully and happily as part of Ukraine. I repeat, I could be wrong 1000 times (I even hope so), but I still see it this way.
  61. 0
    24 June 2014 14: 48
    I think there will be a small joke about Strelkov in the topic)))

    Message from Strelkov I.I. dated November 17, 2015. (at the moment it’s a joke, but who knows).

    “We were squeezed out again on Long Island. Ji-ai go wave after wave, shelling from all sides. Aviation overcomes, the guys managed to hit two B-2, one fell into the sea, and the second, fuming, went towards Canada.
    In front of the external checkpoint, the Abrams battalion, the children and soot are burning out, so that they have nothing to breathe. Ammunition is running out. Brooklyn in ruins, we deduce the refugees. There is still no help from Russia.
    Where is Severodvinsk? Brain reports that without reinforcements, he will not hold Alabama. Motorola keeps well in Nevada, well done guys! If Russia does not immediately help, then we will not see air supremacy. "
  62. yurik
    0
    24 June 2014 14: 49
    Putin proposed Federation Council to revoke permission to use aircraft in Ukraine
    On Tuesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin, before leaving for Vienna on an official visit, sent a letter to the Federation Council addressed to Chairman Valentina Matvienko, where he proposed to cancel the Federation Council resolution "on the use of the RF Armed Forces on the territory of Ukraine," said the press secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov ...
    According to him, this was done "in order to normalize the situation and resolve the situation in the eastern regions of Ukraine, as well as in connection with the beginning of trilateral negotiations on this issue."


    How the hell is normalization?! Slavyansk was shelled again! It seems that Putin has either completely lost his adequate perception of the situation, without waiting for the end of Poroshenko’s truce, or he wants to quickly merge Novorossiya
  63. Cat
    0
    24 June 2014 15: 31
    There was information that Putin turned to the Federation Council with a request to cancel permission to use Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine. Who knows if this is fake?
  64. 0
    24 June 2014 16: 09
    I think in November 1941 our situation was worse than today and nothing, our grandfathers and great-grandfathers survived. And we will endure.
  65. 0
    24 June 2014 16: 41
    the total population of Donetsk and Lugansk regions is almost 8 million people. And the population of Transnistria at the time when the Transnistrians rebelled against forced Moldavianization / Romanianization was just over 700 thousand people. That, therefore, in 2014, Donetsk and Lugansk are a hotbed of resistance, eleven times larger than the hotbed of resistance that arose in Transnistria in the early 90s of the twentieth century. According to official data, the number of personnel in the Transnistrian army is seven and a half thousand people . There are 17,5 thousand sufficiently well-trained militias in Transnistria.
    Let's multiply this by 9. Because this is approximately the current ratio of the population of the South-East of Ukraine and Transnistria. And what will happen? That the personnel army of the South-East can be 67,5 thousand people. A fairly well-trained militia in the Southeast can number 157,5 thousand people. In total, the South-East, which has implemented the Transnistrian model, can involve 225 thousand people in the confrontation with the Nazi Bandera junta.
  66. Messer
    0
    24 June 2014 17: 34
    What is one crest - a partisan? What is two Ukrainians - a partisan detachment. What is three Ukrainians - a partisan detachment with a traitor
  67. 0
    24 June 2014 17: 40
    "Peacemaker", damn...

    The United States and Germany praised Poroshenko for negotiations with “terrorists.” In response, Parashenko stood on tiptoes and happily wagged his tail.
  68. +2
    24 June 2014 17: 56
    Putin took a worthy place in Russian history next to Peter III and Gorbachev.
    1. cthutq
      0
      24 June 2014 20: 08
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Putin took a worthy place in Russian history next to Peter III and Gorbachev.

      You also forgot EBN. I looked at a History textbook in the store. 3 (!) pages are dedicated to the Second World War, 40 sheets are devoted to the “Era of GDP”. All the kings and presidents combined are on vacation.
  69. +1
    24 June 2014 18: 17
    An interesting topic, the patriotism of the Russian people as a means of obtaining economic and financial profit for a certain circle of people (oligarchs). "South Stream", gas, and events in southeastern Ukraine, is this somehow interconnected? Please tell me, is the enrichment of Russian oligarchs a benefit for the Russian state and people?
    1. sergios
      0
      24 June 2014 22: 20
      This is not good, it is harmful for the country as a whole.
  70. 0
    24 June 2014 19: 36
    Here is the reaction to the negotiations.
    [media=http://http://www.odnoklassniki.ru/video/62722399169440-1]
  71. cthutq
    0
    24 June 2014 20: 01
    Quote: Gato
    There was information that Putin turned to the Federation Council with a request to cancel permission to use Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine. Who knows if this is fake?

    not fake, the rat stood doggy style in front of the frame,
  72. 0
    24 June 2014 20: 14
    In Donbass, the scenario of the war of 08.08.08 will obviously be repeated, when Russia defended the South Ossetian Republic from aggression also by the junta, Saakashvili, another American errand servant. Although today it is enough for Russia to provide assistance to the Army of the South-East of Ukraine in the liberation of the Novorossiysk republics from Bandera’s army. The troops of Novorossiya will stop, or rather, take up defensive positions on their borders. Autumn and winter will come, and with them a truce.


    23 June 2014, 08: 07
    The peacekeeping brigade of the Central Military District is put on combat readiness
  73. alf777
    0
    24 June 2014 21: 29
    Hang on Donbass! We are advancing to you from Samara in the amount of a platoon. All former soldiers with experience of military operations. May God come with us
  74. 0
    24 June 2014 21: 30
    They are preparing a basket for European observers from the OSCE.... So they will see everything! laughing
  75. sergios
    0
    24 June 2014 22: 44
    Somehow the support of the Russians in Ukraine is not felt. sadly!
    1. 0
      24 June 2014 23: 58
      Quote: sergios
      Somehow the support of the Russians in Ukraine is not felt. sadly!

      There is support, and there will be more if you need it!
  76. 0
    25 June 2014 00: 00
    Quote: Shoma-1970
    The cancellation of the March decree means: the army of Donbass no longer needs the entry of Russian troops because it is fully armed, the GDP has confidence that Donbass will gain freedom


    either that, or the option like in 1999, Yugoslavia was merged with Chernomyrdin’s trip to Belgrade.
    Take off your rose-colored glasses! The junta has overwhelming superiority in all types of weapons! Yes, the Militia are holding out, and it's a Miracle!
    But Iraq also held out well; the Americans could not enter any city. And then bang-bang and within XNUMX hours all of Baghdad is under control! Gaddafi also held out for six months after the introduction of the no-fly zone. Then bang-bang, landing after landing and Tripoli was taken!
    History doesn’t teach you anything at all?!
    Or are we so eager to be “positive” that we don’t even look the facts in the eye? So look then STS, what are you even discussing Donbass?
  77. 0
    25 June 2014 01: 07
    VERY BAD news for Donetsk! I don’t know what the DPR is doing in general, but to the fascist groups in Kurakhovo, Volnovakha, Starobeshevo, Krasnoarmeysk (encircled), and to the detachment at the airport, an armed group of mercenaries was added, hiding in a pre-trial detention center. The city can be cut in two and, under certain circumstances, destroyed piece by piece. Please spread the link to all possible addresses - maybe the DPR will stop playing with the creation of ministries and councils, and will start reassigning the police and eliminating saboteurs?
    And it turns out like this: you hear shooting at night - you call the hotline, and then the aunt answers: “No one has called us yet, you are the first. We will check the information...”. And you think - if they react like this, then from the first I will soon turn into the last. (I won’t be able to fight myself - I recently became “disabled.”)
    Western PMC saboteurs have been deployed to Donetsk. I ask everyone to read the link:
    http://www.segodnia.ru/news/141757
  78. Bare16RUS
    0
    25 June 2014 01: 57
    The article is not about anything, just a tick for the author.
  79. Nikich
    0
    25 June 2014 07: 29
    Quote: Magadan
    Take off your rose-colored glasses! The junta has overwhelming superiority in all types of weapons! Yes, the Militia are holding out, and it's a Miracle!

    I agree with you, but who still thinks so? Read the message from Igor Strelkov.
  80. Platoon
    -1
    25 June 2014 10: 56
    "....whatever strategic decision on Ukraine Putin makes, he will still be right"
    This kind of loyalty is sickening. I also like Putin, but this is not a reason to turn off my head. In general, lately there has been a feeling that the public discussion on the situation in Ukraine has degenerated into a discussion of GDP. Well, you love Putin, and love him silently. Public love is called pornography. I would like to praise - praise for the graceful capture of Crimea, for example. But statements that the Great One is right, because he is always right, is, frankly speaking, too much...
  81. 0
    25 June 2014 14: 25
    To undermine the authority of the mattress makers, all requisitioned military equipment, equipment and weapons of NATO members from the Georgian army after their war should be transferred to the DPR and LPR.......?

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