In Rostov appeared the street Guard Colonel Budanov

The activists of the “Russian image” movement re-glued all address signs on Socialist Street of Rostov, replacing them with the inscriptions “Guards Street of Colonel Budanov”.

With this action, the youth honored the memory of the Order of Courage Yuri Budanov, who was tragically deceased, under the cover of night on the eve of 9 days from the day of his death. For several hours, all the signs on the buildings with the name of Socialist Street were covered with new signs. Stickers with the inscription "Guards Colonel Budanov Street" appeared on the trade pavilions, schools and even on the sign of the military registration and enlistment office. “Thus, we honored the memory of a soldier and a hero and celebrated 9 days from the date of death,” said one of the protesters. The appearance of a new street in the city was discovered only in the morning, according to Life News. It is not yet known whether the organizers and participants will have to bear criminal or administrative responsibility for this action.

Comments

[Stavr]

Well done boys! I support these activists. Colonel Budanov Street - sounds good! And on the Kremlin to hang a sign: "Street of corrupt authorities!"

[SMERSH]

At least something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[mitrich]

VLADIMIR,
what do you think about the murder of Yu.D. Budanova? Is it likely that they will reveal it? Or can the Center’s well-known relations with Ramzan Akhmadovich prevent this? Ready to read your comment, even in cautious language.

[Stavr]

From the very beginning it’s clear - capercaillie! The professional worked, he is probably already at sea in another country, sunbathing or buried in the ground ... If they find anyone, then this is a setup, you can’t believe!

[Eric]

Another officer is shot true ODON Vityaz! http: // newsru.com/crime/22jun2011/ shotcapmvdvetmsk.html remove the spaces!

[German]

Well done! if the government does not understand and does not notice, thank God that there are still normal people in Russia! bravo!

[bandura70]

Maybe it makes sense in the action Colonel Budanov Street in every Russian city ???

[Vladimir]

Why be careful &
Budanov committed a grave and shameful crime. If she was a sniper, it was necessary to conduct initial inquest measures, fix it all (any commander in the war was trained in this) and pass where it should. Life would be guaranteed for her. Well, they would have beaten in the end, taken away b soul. (Although, it’s also not our way, to kick a girl with boots). If she wasn’t a sniper, all the more so. Not to be confused with Russian officers. In Velivaya Patriotic, there were massive cases of saving German children at the cost of their lives, even those whose family the Germans burned shared a piece of bread.
Colonel, commander of a guards regiment kills an innocent Chechen woman (guilt is not proven by subsequent examinations and witnesses). Dot.
No one belittles his merits as a military man, he fought with dignity, heroically and courageously. There are some rough edges, so the war is not without them.
At the trial, they agreed not to talk about rape - a disgrace for the Chechen family and aggravating him.
I am writing as a senior officer who has passed Afghanistan and Chechnya, if anyone is interested.
(In Afghanistan, in general, it was not our territory, strangers and very hostile people, but I don’t remember a single case just like that, it’s meaningful to take and kill an innocent person, I’m even silent about the girl. There were mistaken shelling of peaceful NPs, but no more. Although there were atrocities there there was no less, and maybe more. Your soldier dug up, you start the search, a week later you find him on a spindle in a village. Like a ram with a head cut off. Two steps from the clay dwelling where a family and six children live. The first reaction is to cut it off also heads, but then it quickly disappeared. The men were taken to the commandant’s office with a tsaranda, but the women, especially the children, would not have touched).
And they killed him from a blood feud. Rape and murder is like an adult. That's what I got as an adult. And it’s not necessary to be a Chechen. If someone with my daughters would do this, I would burn his whole family with children, wives, men, forgive me, Lord.
In vain he went on parole. If I had served from bell to bell, look and stay alive. And the one who signed him this parole should have turned on the brains and thought that revenge would be unambiguous.
My opinion, I do not impose on anyone and do not blame anyone. God has already condemned.

[Click-Klyak]

Brave You are a man. Stammer now. The site is peculiar.
I personally completely agree. In addition, German children were protected in the Second World War. No, everything happened. It happened that the Red Army killed their officers who stood up for the local civilian population. Such officers honor and glory.

[mitrich]

VLADIMIR,
What parts did you fight in? I do not ask for accuracy, just name the military branch.
In my opinion, it's still the Air Force.

[Vladimir]

I graduated from the Ryazan Airborne Forces. Part of the SN GRU. Served in the USSR, abroad, Russia, of course. Now he is a cabinet chief at Cherni Volga. that disgusts me and pulls THERE. But, nothing can be done, age.
And what does it have to do with it? Or is the fact of the crime not obvious? Is there a tradition among Russians - not to touch unarmed prisoners, not to shoot, and not to mock them. If she was a sniper, if not, I hope you will understand.
I perfectly know all the nuances of this case, but, unfortunately, I can't write more than the official rumor says. Therefore, my opinion is unequivocal - the crime is not justified and inexplicable. Is that "I was in a state of passion" and "I don't remember anything."

[Superduck]

I support the position of Vladimir, and I have already written about this more than once. Budanova is sorry, each of us can fly from the coils, but his crime is proven. To raise it to the banner of an idea is, in my opinion, a most severe provocation, except if you put the idea of ​​cutting out all Chechens .. But why then thousands of boys and officers in Chechnya were killed in the 90s and are now dying ?! Is it for that ?!
The problem is not Budanov or even Chechnya. The problem is the lack of legality in the whole country, in the complete arbitrariness of all the Chechen and Moscow authorities, of all. Budanov also felt impunity after all, then. And he was not a tenant, and he probably knew about it. What happened to this girl is the shame and tragedy of her clan, there was no chance that they would forget it.

[Gur]

Here is -removed- ... !!! I read your komenty (Vladimir too) .. I am simply outraged by your attitude ... well guilty, they put me in jail .. I didn’t last a year .. left .. what the fuck is death ??. what revenge ?? and you talk about it like that, like there's nothing you can do about it .. a tragedy for the village, the clan .. And what should those parents do .. whose children were bullied, not just strangled, but precisely bullied in a perverted form, the militants .. how to avenge us the death of people not only in uniform but also peaceful Russians who were slaughtered like rams ?? .. or is there no shame for us, or is it not a tragedy for us ??. Shame for the Russian officers ?? But where were your condemnations when they abandoned their own at the first assault on Grozny ?? When the head chief Yeltsin and Grachev shrugged their shoulders and the grills do not know such .. This is a SHAME and this is a betrayal and this is a shame !!! .. Who answered the thread for this ?? It's a shame when the officers who participated in the "Establishment of constitutional order in Chechnya" are now forced to hide against their will .. I think that in the place with Budanov, everyone who stood above it ... up to the commander-in-chief .. for the mess that was there .. if it could have happened ..

[Superduck]

I never said that I welcome the death of Budanov. I feel humanly sorry for him. But there is such a moment: Vladimir absolutely correctly pointed out that all the circumstances of the whole case indicate that Budanov is not suitable for the icon "Honor of the Russian officers", except perhaps for the "tragedy of the Russian people."
Two, you can organize a combat cell and take revenge on yourself while you are alive. The country has no right to avenge, because revenge is a weapon of hopelessness and weakness. A strong country must find and punish the guilty, but how can it punish them if the current government is the successor, and in those days a faithful dog to the one who committed these crimes.

Quote: GUR

and where were your convictions when they abandoned their own during the first assault on Grozny ??

Well, where, where, where and everyone else, I was all the more a student in another state. On the other hand, it seems like during the first assault all the volunteers were there. But the fact that the boys were thrown at all points where they could even before being sent to Chechnya is not subject to discussion, and the recruits should be punished, at least Evgeny Savostyanov, Sergey Stepashin and Alexander Kotenkov. The entire leadership of the country was in the know, the FSB oversaw the operation. What will they punish themselves ?!

[mitrich]

VLADIMIR,
read, thought. I will answer myself in cautious formulations. My answer is:
war in "white gloves" has never been done, and taking into account your well-deserved biography of a military officer, it is not at all for you to write to me about this. I am not a boy or a girl, therefore, I will not hide, I expected more professionalism in your answer (especially since I read your comments with great interest and even pleasure, since we think and write the same on 80% of the points of the program). I am sure that you understand what I am writing about. Alas, I cannot write more, I have no right. And once again he took you for a pilot, because it hurts too much your comment from the EARTH was torn off.
I know the story of Budanov with all its nuances no worse than you, because I talked with officers of the 160th and with prosecutors. After all, I did emphasize something else in my question to you. Moreover, considering the "Black Volga" and accommodation in the capital. Will the murder be solved, will it be hushed up for clarity? What to do with Kadyrov if an order came from him? How can the veterans of the Chechen campaigns continue to live, start hiding from the "avengers" or what? This is what I put my emphasis on.
Sorry if I offended involuntarily.

[Gur]

And do not write about the nobility of the Russian and Soviet officers .. The war is a dirty business and in the wars of the past there was plenty of everything, including impartial too. It’s not nice to read such comments from people in uniform .. Vladimir is ready for his daughter all to the root .. but doesn’t hurt anyone else’s daughters? .. But if you look at it like that .. then there would be no one to live in Chechnya. ... from our revenge .. however, we are generous, we don’t get a slut, it’s our fault .. so we justify our inaction ... But they are YES! they have a shame for teip and all that and rightly Budanov and others .. Do not you think that somehow it turns out all the same?

[Vladimir]

First, the crime was not committed in a combat situation. Second, he drank, pulled n
and the woman, went, brought, raped, killed, buried, i.e. CONSCIOUSLY and sanely understood what he had done and tried to cover up his tracks. Then only a version of a sniper appeared, when he was horrified by what he had done with a hangover. No unnecessary and unjustified in this case "fighting" for the army.
In peacetime, life threatens for such a murder. Moreover, he himself will be raped and hanged in the pre-trial detention center. It is not necessary to cover up the heinous crime with war and try to justify this with the words "war is not done with white gloves." War does not write off everything. And the winners are also judged for such abominations. It is not done in white gloves, but only the war itself. There are different laws, kill more of the enemy, by all means and forces.
The third. She is a Russian citizen, just like yours and my daughter, like our wives. Or do I not understand something?
What a "professional" answer are you from me, mithrich were you waiting?
Tell how in Afghanistan grandmothers extorted from Pashtuns for vodka worth 40 thousand Afghani? How then were they punished for the raped and murdered, thrown into the abyss of their many wives? There were also such "officers". Only these cases were not known. But he personally beat one such goat in the face with a rifle butt until his whole face turned into a mess. Then he was quietly sent to the Union in 24 hours. And there were not many such cases, but there were.
If we start to wet everyone indiscriminately in the war, no matter where, then we will turn into the same bastard fighters. By the way, they cut their heads no less. And the UNAUNs, and our, Russian mercenaries from under the city ... in Central Russia, and Chechen fighters all the more so. It is for their atrocities. And they cut it right. And they put a grenade in the ass. Tell me everything or not? But not peaceful women and girls. There is a written and unwritten rule - do not kill unarmed, do not loot, do not force. Especially in their own land.
There are professional features in CH, but this is from a series of vital necessities, for the sake of a higher goal, which I will not disclose. What was the highest goal Budanov pursued? Satisfying his animal needs? On the birthday of your daughter? I would masturbate, God forgive me. Look and would remain alive.

[dmb]

Vladimir, I absolutely agree with you. I know the situation not by hearsay. And they began to sell us in Chechnya not in 1996, but in 1991-1992, those who are now prospering in the bulk (Only one is dead - EBN). How to deal with them? How about those who cut heads ?. After all, these heads were cut with the tacit consent and approval of the prosperous. And for the justly convicted Budanov, one could also ask his commanders, first of all, the same Shamanov. You probably know the wise principle of our army, whoever is lucky, they go on that. How many Budanov rested and what is provided by law. Here's the "roof" and went. But at the headquarters of the group, the principle of rest was strictly observed.

[mitrich]

VLADIMIR,
this is exactly what this comment was expecting. It was him, not the speech of the political instructor. I agree with you, VLADIMIR, and I do not condone Budanov.
After all, the service community was not irritated by the trial of the colonel, but by the fact that the opposite side received amnesty for the same acts. After all, they dragged Russian girls along the mountains, and what I did to them was not for me to tell you. However, the court did not fall. Well, if they managed to run into a bullet before the announcement of the amnesty.
And secondly, Budanov had to be judged in a quiet manner, as in Afghanistan, or rather, in Tashkent during the Afghan war. And so all this did not look like a criminal, but as a political trial of the whole army. The Kungaevs did not hide this.
Am I wrong?

[Vladimir]

I am glad that I did not satisfy your curiosity from the perspective of a half-worker.
Publicity of the court is the second question. You see, you can’t consider all of this separately from politics and manipulate their elite, which is pretty much controlled. But to any vegetable its term and its own garden. There are some main goals, very global and significant. Sometimes for the sake of these goals it is worth creating the VISIBILITY of the assignment. To work on the public, to raise the "authority" of this or that power, legitimacy, electoral disposition and other seasoning. I hope you understand me and don't ask me to describe all this in more detail.
By the way, it’s a very, very deep error when people who are not very knowledgeable write that head cutters were left without punishment. Everyone knows everything about their addresses, family members, where they are, why and why. Who works and how they feel. There is such a principle of laws - the inevitability of punishment. Believe me, this principle is being implemented NOT DEFINITELY ..

[Vladimir]

Stadiums explode under the leaders very rarely, but at exactly the appointed time. Damned terrorists. Ferstein, Mitrich?

[Gur]

I agree with mitrich ....

[DAGESTAN333]

But also Vladimir obviously knows what he’s talking about.

[mitrich]

Got it, VLADIMIR. You, as always, have again lowered the level of anxiety in my restless soul.

[mitrich]

DAGESTANIAN 333,
and who here questions the competence of VLADIMIR? You obviously did not "cut down" the essence of what I asked him about.
Personally, his explanations completely satisfied me.

[DAGESTAN333]

mitrich, this, I really didn’t understand, but I meant how Vladimir made it clear that in the interests of the state it is necessary to compromise with some things "right" for us. For example, I see the situation the same way as you, but Vladimir too, forced to look from a different angle.

[mitrich]

DAGESTANIAN 333,
there can be no angles here. We all can have only one corner. War is an extremely cruel thing, and, roughly speaking, if my sidekick is cut off in the war, I will cut off 10 adversaries in response. Of course, I just reason like that, as you know, fantasize on a free topic.
And the fact that banal violence flavored with lust is a sin and a criminal offense, who will argue with this?
I will not touch upon the topic of the Caucasus and Afghanistan, which is painful for all of us, since not all mental wounds have healed. I will say about the Second World War. It is no secret that at the end of the war, already in Germany, there were "people's avengers" who raped German women. What I managed to find out in the course of a private study is that it was not combat units who were engaged in this shameful matter, that was not before, but the rear and transport workers, the so-called. "5th Ukrainian Front", many ethnic ... (however, I will keep silent from political correctness). This is the wrong side of the war.

[DAGESTAN333]

I do not argue.

[Vladimir]

The army is an instrument of state policy. And not only in wartime. Politics is definitely a very dirty and fantastically scary thing. But understanding its methods is another form of thinking, at a higher level. You need to have an outstanding statesmanlike mind and be a patriot of your country in order to correctly understand certain phenomena occurring in the country and be able to assess its correctness even by one and single, seemingly not very sensational event at first glance. , etc., and even then I cannot fully assess this or that event now, because 10 people in the country from the top leadership can own the true plans, the full picture and the truth itself. Then, in terms of how separate puzzles are, orders descend vertically down. And not always directly. Disguised, "under a false flag," information is brought from abroad without designating a specific source, etc., etc. Our business is veal - to fulfill the order, then stand and wait for either a reward or a pendel.
And all this is done not for the sake of some oligarchs there, it is too small for the interests of the state and for ensuring its security and development. The oligarchs themselves are also an instrument of state policy and not the most incapable, because they have a lot of money, and abroad it is issued as private investment. And do not quibble.