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Russian "Terminator" will gain popularity among customers after the rebuild

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Currently, interest in support combat vehicle tanks (BMPT) “Terminator” is shown only by constant partners from Kazakhstan. However, the CEO of Uralvagonzavod Corporation Oleg Sienko is confident that re-arranging the BMPT to the level of Terminator-2 will increase its attractiveness for foreign buyers.

Russian "Terminator" will gain popularity among customers after the rebuild


"Terminator" will be bought, because today we rearranged it - made "Terminator-2"
told reporters RIA News Sienko at the Eurosatory-2014 exhibition in Paris.

According to the head of the corporation, the first version of the combat vehicle has undergone a significant change.
“The hull was being prepared wider, a little longer, the crew was five people, and we made the layout based on the T-72 chassis, respectively, the crew was reduced to three people.”
said sienko.

“They rearranged part of the weapons, made internal systems that allow one person to fire with two types of weapons. We have moved this way, because in many armies of the world there are our cars and there is no need to make super efforts, and in the process of modernization, the new “Terminator-72” turns out
he explained.

The CEO also noted that all components for modernization already exist, in addition, the engine power has been increased.

“We plan to continue to change part of the weapons depending on the relief of many countries, because the 30-mm gun has certain limitations and is outdated already. We have modules that we develop - light, medium and very heavy. ”
explained Sienko.

Touching upon the modernization of the machine for foreign colleagues, he noted that there are two options for improving BMPT, the choice of which depends on the financial capabilities of the client countries.

“If technically and technologically they are ready, we can only assemble, if they are not technologically ready, we can do it because the entire main component base is, the top is altered mainly”
said sienko.

The first version of the Terminator is equipped with two 30-2A X-mm automatic guns, two Ataka-T supersonic rocket launchers, two AG-4D automatic grenade launchers, and one 17 caliber machine gun.

The presence of multichannel and panoramic television sights in the car allows three operators at any time of day to quickly detect targets at a great distance and hit three of them simultaneously. Sector of fire - 360˚.
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  1. portoc65
    portoc65 19 June 2014 18: 36
    +54
    URGENTLY IN SLAVYANSK-THIS TANCHIK ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 19 June 2014 18: 39
      +29
      Then it’s better to have a regiment of such tanks in Slavyansk and Lugansk
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 19 June 2014 18: 42
        +4
        It looks cool ..! But how will he behave in a battle.?
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 19 June 2014 18: 50
          +17
          Here and break in. In combat conditions.
          1. armageddon
            armageddon 19 June 2014 19: 13
            +3
            Hmm ... a break-in ... You can NOT WORRY ... !!!
        2. portoc65
          portoc65 19 June 2014 19: 01
          +8
          Quote: MIKHAN
          It looks cool ..! But how will he behave in a battle.?

        3. Vlad Gore
          Vlad Gore 19 June 2014 19: 05
          +25
          The militiamen on engineering vehicles spank the junta, and with such "terminators" they would break a heating pad like a tuzik. bully
        4. Giant thought
          Giant thought 19 June 2014 19: 11
          +4
          So it is necessary to arrange trials, Slavyansk has a training ground, there will be no need for better advertising than the screams of Ukrainians, ops and mattresses.
        5. Sunjar
          Sunjar 19 June 2014 20: 18
          +2
          It looks cool, of course, only if you start to peel the machine gun from the tower, and it’s not necessary to have a large-caliber machine, then all these charms will surely pokotsat.

          By the way, can anyone know if there were strength tests of these modules?
        6. Nahum
          Nahum 19 June 2014 20: 50
          +1
          It would be interesting to know the TTD of this machine. And still, this is not a breakthrough model. The future belongs to radio-controlled armored complexes. This is when a highly qualified crew will control the machine from a distance, while being safe. After all, the most valuable thing in any tank (airplane, ship, armored personnel carrier, etc.) is people!
          1. Juborg
            Juborg 19 June 2014 22: 02
            -4
            This car is out of date before being born. This machine was supposed to be adopted by the Russian Federation, another 20 years ago. Now this is no longer relevant. A powerful and heavy base, with dubious maneuverability for such a glad equipment, is not entirely justified by its weapons. Our then generals did everything so that this machine did not get into the troops.
          2. biznaw
            biznaw 19 June 2014 23: 10
            +2
            However, you are a dreamer. Didn't you play enough with radio models at the pioneer age? So the Americans are all playing. True, after the operators saw the "Constellation of Cancer" on the radar monitors of the super duper destroyer Donald Cook instead of the mark of the Russian bomber, the dreamers of cyber and cyborg weapons turned sour. The cost of electronic warfare is orders of magnitude cheaper than artificial and radio-controlled intelligence. feel
            1. Nahum
              Nahum 20 June 2014 07: 11
              0
              There was no radio model at my pioneering age (60s) ... But now there are drones everywhere - reconnaissance and strike. Their popularity is constantly growing. The same principle applies to any military equipment on the ground, in the air and in water. Believe me, being a dreamer is not bad at all. Much worse to touch in their habits. Until now, they would run with spears. Like natives in the good old Africa. hi
      2. portoc65
        portoc65 19 June 2014 18: 44
        0
        Quote: herruvim
        Then it’s better to have a regiment of such tanks in Slavyansk and Lugansk

        there are only a few pieces, they are looking for someone to sell, money is needed to do a lot .. under the order
      3. Nick
        Nick 19 June 2014 19: 33
        +2
        And in addition to each regiment, a pair of shells, to ensure air defense in the near zone ...
    2. Predator
      Predator 19 June 2014 18: 44
      +1
      And not one, ten three or four! And "Shell" to boot!
    3. tol100v
      tol100v 19 June 2014 19: 11
      0
      Yes to spare parts in place.
    4. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 19 June 2014 19: 46
      +6
      Last report from Strelkova:

      Yampolsky detachment is broken. The militia, 3/4 of which were not properly fired upon, could not withstand heavy artillery fire and tank attacks and randomly retreated in different directions. A handful of those remaining counterattacked, entered the enemy from the flank, knocked out 4 BMDs and returned to their positions, but the enemy had already cut them off from the crossing. Now the remnants of the detachment and the forces deployed to help them are fighting to break through the encirclement. The bridge at sunset is captured and protected by a tank.

      But to those who try to rebuke the militia in insufficient resilience, I recommend to come here and try it yourself: the enemy has an armored personnel carrier or infantry fighting vehicle for every 10 (not to mention two dozen tanks), and we didn’t have a single defensive unit "armor" ... They had a battery of "grads" and a division of self-propelled howitzers + "Drying" according to our position, while all of our "artillery" there was 2 recoilless LNG-9 and 1 ZU-23-2. All of our communication, they crushed the EW equipment so that the radios were completely useless. The ratio of forces in the infantry - 1 to 10 ... There would have to be a guard, perhaps, could not resist.

      In Seversk fight. There, the Brain guys are trying to contain the enemy. But the forces there are cryingly unequal.
      Source: yurasumy
      1. strong man
        strong man 19 June 2014 20: 39
        +18
        Slavyansk is in an operational environment, "there would be a regiment of terminators and even shells" it's funny to read these snotty comments! New Russia will be in vain!
        1. Nahum
          Nahum 19 June 2014 21: 02
          +2
          The sacrifices of the heroes of the South-East are not in vain! But everything has its time. NATO members are waiting for direct armed intervention by Russia, squealing impatiently. Then their hands will be untied and carte blanche for intervention will be given. You can't give kams that chance! Other options for effective influence on the situation are possible and they should be applied and, I believe, they are applied. You just can't talk about many things out loud. The current situation reminds me more and more of the one that was exactly 100 years ago, when the Russian Empire was forced to defend the "Serbian brothers". Everyone knows what came out of this great impulse. You can no longer risk Russia like that and mindlessly walk along the old "rake".
          1. stranik72
            stranik72 19 June 2014 21: 55
            +6
            Uncle, no one will speak against a nuclear power, the problem is in sanctions, our government is afraid of them, since we have no money, they are all in the west, we practically do not even have our own food (no more than 60% of what is needed, everything else is abroad). And most importantly, the country's elite, they are not ours and they are not ready to endure hardships for the sake of some "Russian people". We and they are different, even more so even according to the passport, most of them are already there, if not themselves, then their child for sure. And our people themselves are hardly ready to switch from big poppy to black bread. As for the "old rake" of 10 years, GDP had to think about it back, now it's too late, we are next. Even if we return Crimea and give Russia half of it. It's just that there shouldn't be more than 15 million Russians, as they said in the early 90s. Here is the alignment.
            1. Nahum
              Nahum 19 June 2014 22: 47
              +3
              Yes, nephew, the alignment is clear. About the "elite" - it is not Russian, but comprador, without a homeland and tribe. These are snickering snobbish descendants of the nouveau riche who want, but will not be able to enter the elite of the developed countries of the West. They will be strangers there until they assimilate and lose their identity. The Russian elite is primarily intellectual. Its representatives can be seen at the presidential awards ceremonies. Believe me - it is not the amount of money in the accounts that determines the "elitism", but the degree of real usefulness to your country and your people.
              Second, it's never too late to think about "rakes". Yes, history teaches that it teaches nothing. But there are systemic, obvious mistakes that should not be repeated. If only because their correction turns into even more blood. War can be waged in a variety of ways, incl. and implicit, indirect and at the same time - effective. Fascist leaders are completely mortal people and the question of their physical liquidation is a matter of time, means and desire. Well, Lyashko suddenly falls ill - who will kill himself? Yaytsenyukh stumbles from the balcony - who will sob? We are waiting ...
              1. Oprychnik
                Oprychnik 19 June 2014 23: 09
                +1
                Naum! Took a check today? Honestly.:)))
                1. Nahum
                  Nahum 20 June 2014 07: 24
                  +1
                  What, and no way to dream? :))) All these "tyagnyboks" should be taken by their tender eggs with an unwavering hand, and they should be jerked with a twist! The fate of BAB, the great "friend" of Russia, made many others ponder. Believe me, a "dark man", it was not accidental.
              2. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 20 June 2014 05: 42
                0
                Quote: Naum
                . The Russian elite is primarily intellectual.

                Only turned to Russia with its "back", but to the Western "gurus" with a smiling face and outstretched hand, or even with raised hands.
          2. biznaw
            biznaw 19 June 2014 23: 12
            +1
            Yes, it is very similar to the situation of 1MB, and the year coincides
        2. alone
          alone 19 June 2014 23: 30
          0
          Quote: strong man
          Slavyansk in an operational environment, "there would be a regiment of terminators

          Does the Russian Army have a whole regiment of terminators?
  2. vostok1982
    vostok1982 19 June 2014 18: 37
    +10
    These beauties and Russians to New Russia ... Eh ...
    And what kind of life has gone that Russia, which used to protect even all kinds of Orthodox Palestinians, now cannot protect the Russian people of Donbass, Odessa?
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 19 June 2014 18: 53
      +59
      An unnamed soldier not only did not die when an automatic bullet hit his head, but even found a reason to laugh. And the soldier kept this humorous mood all the time while his comrade removed a bullet from his forehead with the help of pliers. A young man with such a strong skull has already been christened the Russian Terminator in honor of the popular Hollywood hero who had a metal body.
      1. N.Zero
        N.Zero 19 June 2014 19: 18
        +19
        (ARMOR) lol
        lucky man ... God forbid, health and long life! drinks
        1. Dmitry_24rus
          Dmitry_24rus 19 June 2014 20: 43
          +5
          Where did the photo come from? This is a man! Long years to you, polite real man. Do not show these pictures to mum)))
          Regards from Siberia
      2. ATATA
        ATATA 19 June 2014 21: 03
        0
        Quote: herruvim
        A young man with such a strong skull has already been christened the Russian Terminator in honor of the popular Hollywood hero who had a metal body.


        3,14 drive not bags toss and turn.
      3. Nahum
        Nahum 19 June 2014 21: 06
        +2
        At the end of the fool was! Illustration on the use of helmets. The bandana looks cool, of course, but the lobeshnik does not protect. There is a war, not a war.
      4. zone44
        zone44 19 June 2014 22: 22
        0
        That's why the Nazis lost the war. Let the Americans make their Hollywood films, they are the current heroes there)))
  3. jovanni
    jovanni 19 June 2014 18: 38
    +8
    Strelkov would have ...
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 19 June 2014 18: 41
      -1
      Throw and something even cooler, but only in Tihari
      1. Horde
        Horde 19 June 2014 18: 42
        +1
        Quote: herruvim
        Throw and something even cooler, but only in Tihari


        are you responsible for the bazaar? so far nothing has been thrown ...
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 19 June 2014 18: 51
        +2
        You can’t throw it on the sly
        1. Imperial
          Imperial 19 June 2014 19: 03
          +4
          This will never be thrown, it is easier to stop chewing snot and apply anticipatory from the air by the accumulation of technology. The stink level will be the same, but the effect ...
          portoc65 (2) PT Today, 18:38

          one terminator for 3.4 tanks and a khan to all enemies .. replaces several infantry fighting vehicles and a company of fighters
          In response, they will fire a salvo from the north-east precinct, into flesh before a hurricane in residential areas, so I think the proactive one from heaven is more effective as God's punishment.
          1. tol100v
            tol100v 19 June 2014 19: 18
            +5
            The first is to remove air defense

            The second is cleaning the aircraft (leftovers)

            The third is scrap

            And in the General work there is no end!
            1. GRANATE-19
              GRANATE-19 19 June 2014 21: 19
              +2
              Quote: Tol100v
              The first is to remove air defense

              The second is cleaning the aircraft (leftovers)

              The third is scrap

              And in the General work there is no end!

              A good plan, is it just that the political and strategic situation will allow? ...
              And what is all this fraught with for RUSSIA and NEW RUSSIA? ...
              If not 3 WORLD, then I am for, if the infantry goes, then I am ready to go at the forefront of the offensive ...
              SCHOOL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT!


              Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
            2. The comment was deleted.
  4. herruvim
    herruvim 19 June 2014 18: 38
    +1
    And where is that bad man who assured us that we are behind the US Army, like an Indian with a spear, against an American with a bazooka
  5. portoc65
    portoc65 19 June 2014 18: 38
    +1
    one terminator for 3.4 tanks and a khan to all enemies .. replaces several infantry fighting vehicles and a company of fighters
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 19 June 2014 19: 12
      +3
      Quote: portoc65
      replaces several infantry fighting vehicles and a company of fighters

      Vladlen, BMPT does not "replace", but "strengthens" the unit in solving a specific task, BMPT will not replace BMP or armored personnel carriers in ALL their functional capabilities.

      Well, about the "company" of fighters, you probably just got excited.
      wink
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 19 June 2014 20: 23
        +2
        Aleks tv, hello! I have a question for you, as a specialist, if it’s not difficult for you. Do you need such an army machine or not? There was a lot of controversy. Our army team took 4 pieces, tested them and, as I understood, decided to put them into service on the basis of the T-72, which we have in storage. What do you think? Yours faithfully hi .
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 19 June 2014 20: 42
          +5
          Quote: Kasym
          Do you need such an army machine or not?

          Greetings, Dauren. For a long time did not communicate.
          hi
          There were many articles and discussions on this topic at VO ...

          My opinion is the same: EXPRESSLY YES.
          Repeatedly cited examples of its effective use in various theaters, and with a detailed "construction":
          - in the city (in the "herringbone" - 1st or 2nd line of the exhaust gas),
          - in the suburbs and rural areas (high module),
          - in the "classic" field (cleaning around the tanks),
          - accompanied by columns of caterpillar equipment (reflection of ambushes).

          Her main feature is small caliber protected by TANK armor.
          This is her TOP chip.
          Moreover, BMPT does not replace, namely, it ADDITS the battle order.

          When the Armata family is born, of course, there will be something similar (or the emergence of TBMP, TBRT), but so far there are T-72 and BMP-2 in the units (!!!) - BMPT is EXTREMELY necessary.

          While there is no Armata family, the ideal of my technology in sharing is:
          Immediate clash:
          - T-72, BMPT, BMO-T.
          Support:
          - Msta-S, NONA-SVK, Tunguska.
          It is possible to hijack ANY defense (this is when using heavy equipment, with a tracked floating and wheeled - your own theater)

          Sincerely
          Alex.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 19 June 2014 20: 56
            +7
            Thanks! Some fellow countrymen are at a loss - not in the Russian Federation, but they are pushing us through request ... The opinion of a specialist is much more important than "curious" amateurs. Thanks again ! (there is someone to refer to wink ) drinks If "mazut" says it is necessary, it means it is necessary. And not any nails.
            1. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 19 June 2014 21: 11
              +4
              Quote: Kasym
              If "mazut" says it is necessary, it means it is necessary.

              Dauren, it's just IMHO.
              But it is unambiguous.
              drinks
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 20 June 2014 00: 02
                +3
                Alexei, the opinion of warriors is more important than the cabinet general. hi
                I further wanted to write that it was time to send peacekeepers to Ukraine. And justified by the presence of a large number of refugees. And to me that this tex cannot be published. I did not understand why.
                And instead of the Shell Tunguska due to the inability to work on the go?
                1. Aleks tv
                  Aleks tv 20 June 2014 00: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: Kasym
                  cabinet general.

                  Duc I do not mind ... but they do not let me into the "paradise" ...
                  feel laughing
                  Quote: Kasym
                  And instead of the Shell Tunguska due to the inability to work on the go?

                  Yes
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 20 June 2014 00: 30
                    +3
                    He proved to his friends that there was nothing to replace Tunguska with. Yes, where there. "Old stuff, there is Carapace. Why did Russia make Carapace? They are not stupid, so to replace Tunguska." Well what can I say. They are talking about Arab grandmothers and the lobby. "Well, you are not special!"
                    And we have Tunguska! Of the above, only Msta-S is not. Here we have to work. ACS must have a good and modern fleet. Artillery is the God of War. Tanks are no less, because I think the main thing in it is a cannon, a "cart with a large barrel". Ukraine shows it. drinks
                    1. marshes
                      marshes 20 June 2014 00: 41
                      0
                      Quote: Kasym
                      And we have Tunguska!

                      Where are they? Arrow 10 and Shilka are, where did the Tungusks see?
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym 20 June 2014 00: 53
                        +1
                        Was it shown at the parade or not?
                      2. marshes
                        marshes 20 June 2014 00: 58
                        +2
                        Quote: Kasym
                        Was it shown at the parade or not?

                        Code?
                        mostly junk and zoo that near Astana.
                        Shilok is no longer visible in the exercises, but there are Arrows 10. Yes and MANPADS are models in parades.
                        Fear?
                      3. Kasym
                        Kasym 20 June 2014 01: 47
                        +2
                        Swamps, you know better! It's a pity. The car you need. For some reason I thought there was.
                        I understand that we watch football. Spain, England, who's next to go? I bet on Uruguay, my wife for a draw, my friend (wake this up at night, the South African squad will call it in a dream, absolutely seriously) on England, now "disconnected-outside the zone." The "hungry" must be taken, not the star millionaires, and that is what they get. Well Spain ... this is really ...!
                      4. marshes
                        marshes 20 June 2014 02: 03
                        +2
                        Quote: Kasym
                        Machine needed

                        Of course it is necessary, and other air defense systems also came in handy. Although against whom? Single copies were bought at least for training. And then the "shame" is all about modernizing everything and everyone around, but in fact we use old stuff. And so on everything except "the king's musketeers ".
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 19 June 2014 23: 56
            +1
            Yes, it also seems to me that such a machine can help tanks well
    2. avt
      avt 19 June 2014 19: 54
      +5
      Quote: portoc65
      one terminator for 3.4 tanks and a khan to all enemies .. replaces several infantry fighting vehicles and a company of fighters

      Yeah, and two soldiers from the construction battalion replace the excavator.
      Quote: Aleks tv
      Vladlen, BMPT does not "replace", but "strengthens" the unit in solving a specific task, BMPT will not replace BMP or armored personnel carriers in ALL their functional capabilities.

      What Sienko indirectly confirmed in the article --- ,, “We are planning to further change some of the weapons, depending on the relief of many countries, because the 30mm cannon has certain limitations and is already outdated. We have modules that we are developing - light, medium and very heavy. "" Yeah, and then "experimentally" - using the poke method, they will come to a great discovery - some 57 mm gun is too small and we need to put more guns. there is all this trinity with super weapons eventually returns to a normal topic, quite mastered back in Soviet times, namely the installation of a troika on a well-armored tank platform. Well, what the heck of all this ... it would be better without any tricks right away and idle talk about "the specifics of the tasks being solved", like the general who ordered heavy armored personnel carriers based on the T-72 for flamethrowers, would rearrange some of the tanks into heavy infantry fighting vehicles with "Bakhchi" and would not fool his head with this pepelatse who does not know who push.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 19 June 2014 20: 16
        +1
        Quote: avt
        like the general who ordered heavy armored personnel carriers based on the T-72 for flamethrowers, would re-assemble some of the tanks into heavy infantry fighting vehicles with "Bakhchi"

        Also an exit, avt - certainly reinforcing the tower reservation.

        An analogue in history was even in metal - the 782 object (below in the comments I was already nostalgic for it).
        1. avt
          avt 19 June 2014 20: 53
          +3
          Quote: Aleks tv
          An analogue in history was even in metal - the 782 object (below in the comments I was already nostalgic for it).

          good I'm talking about him, long before that, the Terminator was already completely unified with the BMP-3 there was an assault vehicle! And if it had been reconfigured with the possibility of transporting troops, it would have been the same for the infantry in battle formations! grabbed a BMD-4M with the same troika.
      2. max702
        max702 19 June 2014 22: 04
        +1
        That's it, Bahcha-U to the tower, the cord + AGS module to the tower and all the victory weapons .. Two independent posts with the ability to fire at two targets in different sectors at the same time .. What is clung to the current armament scheme at UVZ is not clear .. I b still on the tower a small drone with automatic take-off and landing for reconnaissance under the command of the commander put feel but it’s already fantastic (although I don’t see anything complicated and super expensive in this) ..
        1. schizophrenic
          schizophrenic 20 June 2014 00: 02
          +1
          Quote: max702
          That's it, Bahcha-U to the tower, the cord + AGS module to the tower and all the weapons of victory .. Two independent posts with the ability to fire at two targets in different sectors simultaneously ..

          Here is another option. The gun from NONA, on the tower module, with tracking the direction of movement of the head of the commander, where the commander is looking, there is the module. There are situations such a commander noticed, but the tower still needs to be deployed, and so the commander can suppress a noticed target, without distraction from the main task. Moreover, you can use guided weapons from the NONA cannon. In this case, outer containers with missiles are excluded.
          1. max702
            max702 20 June 2014 10: 55
            +2
            As far as I know, it’s impossible for NONA, yet another crew member is required, but if you bring loading to mind, then the NONA gun is preferable because the power of the projectile is 152 mm, which is already very significant.
            1. schizophrenic
              schizophrenic 21 June 2014 00: 33
              +1
              Quote: max702
              another crew member is required

              They shoved 5 with an uninhabited module, but you can’t invent a loader with tower 4 until you invented it. Maybe I’m mistaken, but it’s just suitable for the dimensions. I wanted to write an article on this terminator, but I didn’t want to mess around, I thought that was enough.
  6. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 19 June 2014 18: 39
    +10
    And when will we see BMPT in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?

    Armata armature, everything has its time ...
    But in those parts where the T-72 and BMP-2 are in service ... BMPT is simply necessary.
    And you need it right now.
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 19 June 2014 18: 42
      -1
      Quote: Aleks tv
      And when will we see BMPT in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?

      Armata armature, everything has its time ...
      But in those parts where the armaments are T-72 and BMP-2, BMPT is simply necessary.
      And you need it right now.

      It is necessary yesterday .. If it still comes out on the platform of Almaty, it will be a breakthrough. Probably, it’s not coming into service either, they are waiting for Armata ..
    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 19 June 2014 22: 39
      +2
      Quote: Aleks tv
      Armata armature, everything has its time ...

      the most annoying thing is that Armata was created back in the late 80's ...
      chassis "Object 299" was developed in 1986, in "Spetsmash" the unified chassis "Object 299" with a seven-wheel chassis and a front MTO position ....
      power plant gas turbine engine rated 1400 — 1500 l / s ...
      block-modular design of the CCI, allowed to develop a whole unified family, allowing to obtain a wide range of promising tracked combat (MBT, BMPT, BTR) and auxiliary machines ...
      as he writes
      Quote: Aleks tv
      After all, everything was already in metal, and not on paper ...
      Eheh.

      now, it’s really, really insulting ... how much such an armored car could save the lives of soldiers in Chechnya 1,2 ...
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 19 June 2014 23: 52
        +2
        Quote: cosmos111
        "299 Object"

        Good evening, Andrey.
        hi

        Yes ... Object 299 was also conceived as a universal platform for various combat modules ... this was the idea of ​​the "platform", which is now being implemented.
        Eheh.
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 20 June 2014 00: 12
          +3
          Good evening, Alex ....
          yes, uh ... the Chinese have already copied the "Object 299" ...
          this year .... exactly the new BMP-T will be shown ...
  7. Anti-ukra
    Anti-ukra 19 June 2014 18: 39
    +6
    what Igor Ivanovich needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 19 June 2014 19: 22
      +3
      Quote: Anti-Ukr
      what Igor Ivanovich needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Yes, he would now be with TENS of Pinocchio. It would be like a fairy tale!
  8. dr.star75
    dr.star75 19 June 2014 18: 40
    +1
    I would like to hear our MO, than the terminator does not suit them?
    1. portoc65
      portoc65 19 June 2014 18: 47
      +2
      Quote: dr.star75
      I would like to hear our MO, than the terminator does not suit them?

      I think that they are waiting for the release of Armata .. Armata is a platform-on this platform and all new weapons will be released .. We need a terminator more than ever .. The most dangerous enemy of infantry tanks .. if the pts are hit 3 km .. the current terminator them and will get
  9. fzr1000
    fzr1000 19 June 2014 18: 40
    +1
    It is good when the shortcomings are assessed and corrected. Not like in 1941, but fast in modern times. It would always be so.
  10. Leshka
    Leshka 19 June 2014 18: 44
    +2
    our army Terminator would be very useful I hope that they will remember about ours
  11. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 19 June 2014 18: 47
    +3
    Definitely a good car !!! We learned how to make weapons and not because we are going to attack someone, we just have to defend ourselves and survive as many years as Russia lives in the world ...
  12. Strashila
    Strashila 19 June 2014 18: 48
    +2
    To be honest ... from my point of view, it is required to cover the rocket modules with armor and the weapon module in the frontal plane. You can hang additional active modules on them.
    A gun of pure 30 mm is not enough ... here is a combination of a 57 mm automatic gun and 30 mm ... that's it.
    Or 57 and 23 with a barrel having cooling like that of ZSU23.
    This would make it possible to apply in residential areas.
    1. legionary
      legionary 20 June 2014 00: 25
      0
      I agree with you that you need to increase the caliber of the guns to 57 mm, or even make the "twin" gun (s) and the AG-17d grenade launcher or more advanced.
      PS: And I already wrote about the increase in caliber in comments earlier about this BMPT. feel
  13. Tatarus
    Tatarus 19 June 2014 18: 48
    +10


    A similar demonstration about the terminator would be seen. And about the rest of our equipment. And so the terminator of a good journey and great victories.
  14. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 19 June 2014 18: 49
    0
    It would be nice to him in the Russian troops. He would be very useful to us. And in a series of it. soldier good
  15. Death to the Nazis
    Death to the Nazis 19 June 2014 18: 53
    +1
    "Terminator" will be bought, because today we rearranged it - made "Terminator-2"

    In Slavyansk or Lugansk, are you going to sell? am And what should they buy for? am
  16. Stypor23
    Stypor23 19 June 2014 18: 54
    0
    What a beautiful car, honestly. Beijing will come running soon
  17. With Petrovsky
    With Petrovsky 19 June 2014 18: 55
    0
    First of all, of course, our army should be provided with such a machine, and then ...
  18. Kimblee
    Kimblee 19 June 2014 18: 56
    -1
    Well, the car vidok ..... In theory, the enemy will have a heart attack only at the sight of this monster))))
  19. Leksandrych
    Leksandrych 19 June 2014 18: 58
    +3
    Interestingly, how much does such a toy cost? Especially in comparison with similar foreign obrozetsy. And can the Abkhazians buy one in Voentorg to send to Lugansk?
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 19 June 2014 19: 10
      0
      Quote: Lexandrich
      Especially in comparison with similar foreign samples
      there are no such analogues. There is nothing to compare.
  20. Strashila
    Strashila 19 June 2014 19: 00
    +2
    The set of 30 mm cannons is rather weak and the missile container is not covered, if it is possible approximately as for the modernization of the Soviet PT-76 study of the Russian company Special Engineering and Metallurgy:
    - automatic gun caliber 57 mm. Powered by shot energy;
    - four containers of anti-tank guided missiles "Kornet";
    - Large-caliber machine gun "Kord" caliber 12.7 mm;
    - automatic grenade launcher "AG-30";
    - Automated SLA;
    - the ability to install optical detection equipment;
    The OMS includes a television-optic sight of the operator-gunner and a panoramic sight of the tank commander. With the help of an automated LMS, the PT-76 will be able to detect and destroy enemy objects at any time of the day in various weather conditions, even in the presence of artificial and natural interference.
    The automated control system is also equipped with a heat and television automat to accompany the enemy object, which greatly simplifies the work of the tank crew. Also, a heat and television automat will provide the auto-guidance of the Kornet missiles, the accuracy in tracking the target will increase fivefold.
    Designers also report on the possibility of installing equipment to identify optical devices. This anti-sniper solution will enable PT-76 to perform tasks to clean up areas of enemy personnel using sniper weapons.
    The gun is equipped with an automatic loader. Automatic cannon rate of fire - 120 rds / min. Full 70 ammunition shots in armor-piercing tracer and frag tracer variants.
    The effective range of the cannon for enemy tank vehicles is 1000 meters, and the BTR and BMP are 2500 meters. The application range for enemy air objects is up to 4000 meters.
    The range of the Kornet missiles is 5000 meters. Penetration - up to 120 centimeters.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 19 June 2014 22: 07
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      automatic gun caliber 57 mm. Powered by energy shot production

      C-60 cannon, the Iraqis still under Saddam, put on the T54 / 55, though the tower is not clear from what ....
  21. erased
    erased 19 June 2014 19: 08
    0
    5 people in a carriage! There are three of them in the tank, and here are five! Where so much? Why so many weapons? Decided to go the T-35? But now is not the beginning of the 30s of the 20th century. Another ten would be planted!
    Busting it is harmful. And the desire to sell products sometimes pushes to completely strange decisions.
    In short, the car resembles a suitcase without a handle. Therefore, no one is taking it yet.
  22. Strashila
    Strashila 19 June 2014 19: 09
    +5
    Quote: Strashila
    To be honest ... from my point of view, it is required to cover the rocket modules with armor and the weapon module in the frontal plane. You can hang additional active modules on them.
    A gun of pure 30 mm is not enough ... here is a combination of a 57 mm automatic gun and 30 mm ... that's it.
    Or 57 and 23 with a barrel having cooling like that of ZSU23.
    This would make it possible to apply in residential areas.

    There was such a project 787
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 19 June 2014 19: 23
      +5
      Quote: Strashila
      There was such a project 787

      Strashila, there were also 2 30mm 2A72 on one shaft.

      The weapon difference was at the 782 facility.
      This Tale, which has not been brought to mind ... as BMPT, "City Tank", "Mountain Tank" in one bottle ...
      100mm, 30mm, 5 FCT.
      With proper modern processing, this machine will now be unique, especially for combat in the city.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 19 June 2014 19: 30
        +2
        Quote: Aleks tv
        The weapon difference was at the 782 facility.

        Here he is, handsome, on the other side:

        -Tank armor.
        -high elevation angle at 100mm OF.
        -Small caliber 30mm.
        -Almost all-round protection from "bearded men" of 5 PKT (or 4 own infantrymen).

        So, damn it, then they were not enough .....................................
        After all, everything was already in metal, and not on paper ...
        Eheh.
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 19 June 2014 21: 54
          +2
          Quote: Aleks tv
          Here he is, handsome, on the other side:

          welcome hi
          here are some more pictures, BMPT from Chelyabinsk .. with a combat module triad ...

        2. cosmos111
          cosmos111 19 June 2014 22: 01
          +3
          Here's another rare photo .. Naryl ...

          evacuation of the BMP-3 tower, the first time I see ....
          So we were in the 1 Chechen, in Grozny, our BMP-3 ...
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 20 June 2014 00: 05
            +2
            Quote: cosmos111
            evacuation of the BMP-3 tower, the first time I see ....

            Yep ...
            Andrei, the Czechs simply hunted for the BMN-3 because of the high angle 100mm ... she figed on the upper floors as her mother does not grieve ... but the armor is not for her city ...
            Eheh.

            Now I’m slowly typing an article about BTS, this photo is also there, here is its description:
            "... Evacuation of the BMP-3 tower, which was torn off and exploded when a shell hit the vehicle body, with the help of a BTS on the Sever group's SPPM from the Grozny hospital complex. January 1995, Grozny. Photo by A. Kunilov ... "
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 20 June 2014 00: 45
              +2
              Quote: Aleks tv
              . but armor is not for her city ...

              I can’t understand one thing ... at ... at the 1,2,3 BMP, they made bulletproof, anti-splinter armor ... if they were supposed to be used in the offensive along with MBT ???

              and why, was needed buoyancy ??? forced a water barrier on the move ... but how to keep it without an MBT is a busy line ... it’s not clear ....

              in the Second World War self-propelled guns, on the General Staff of tanks, with anti-shell armor, and then, according to the charter for 200 meters, they had to move behind the tanks .......
              and in the entire history of the 1,2,3 infantry fighting vehicle ... they never had to force anything !!!
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                1. cosmos111
                  cosmos111 20 June 2014 01: 17
                  +1
                  rudolff hi
                  BMD, 1,2,3,4, it’s not at all clear why they release it ...
                  in Afghanistan ... all the assault fought with the 1985 of the year on armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles 2D ..
                  But where BMP-3F are needed, from the marines, no one is in a hurry to buy ...
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              2. Aleks tv
                Aleks tv 20 June 2014 01: 27
                +1
                Quote: cosmos111
                and why, was needed buoyancy ???

                Well so it was laid in TTZ.
                And there was no experience in the tactical use of these machines ...
                And in principle, for those - predicted potential theater of operations, this was done CORRECTLY.
                And we would not be allowed to make heavy armored personnel carriers at that time ...

                And now the need:
                - a family of heavy tracked vehicles,
                - a family of medium tracked floating equipment (no one has yet canceled the river),
                - a family of light wheeled vehicles.

                Each equipment has its own place and its own theater.
                ......................

                How is Andrei there?
                When will he possibly get a glass of tea?
                We have already agreed with the men and are waiting, sir.
                wink
                1. cosmos111
                  cosmos111 20 June 2014 02: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: Aleks tv
                  And now the need:
                  - - family of heavy tracked vehicles,
                  - a family of medium tracked floating equipment (no one has yet canceled the river),
                  - a family of light wheeled vehicles.
                  Each equipment has its own place and its own theater

                  like amers: 1. heavy brigade 2. Light brigade 3. Mechanized brigade "Stryker" ...
                  they generally operate around the world ...
                  the middle family should be both on the General Staff and on the wheeled, with unification by nodes ...
                  light: multipurpose armored vehicle 4x4 ...
  23. MAIGOR
    MAIGOR 19 June 2014 19: 10
    +1
    Alternative BMPT
    http://topwar.ru/39686-alternativnaya-boevaya-mashina-podderzhki-tankov-bmpt-100
    .html
  24. SOLGA
    SOLGA 19 June 2014 19: 11
    +2
    did not understand; three operators - is it all three crew members or is it when out of five?
    1. His
      His 19 June 2014 19: 14
      -3
      Why such a big crew. One shot at him and five dead.
      1. Lone gunman
        Lone gunman 19 June 2014 19: 42
        +1
        With one shot, it’s problematic to fill up the T-72 tank, but 5 people agree. a lot of.
  25. galaleks
    galaleks 19 June 2014 19: 13
    0
    Quote: herruvim
    An unnamed soldier not only did not die when an automatic bullet hit his head, but even found a reason to laugh. And the soldier kept this humorous mood all the time while his comrade removed a bullet from his forehead with the help of pliers. A young man with such a strong skull has already been christened the Russian Terminator in honor of the popular Hollywood hero who had a metal body.

    And a steel helmet is nothing
  26. Friday
    Friday 19 June 2014 19: 17
    -6
    Sorry of course, but this terminator is crap.
    It would be nice to make an arrow like a hand, and at the end a module with cannons to peek out from behind walls and corners, bushes, trees.
  27. svp67
    svp67 19 June 2014 19: 24
    +1
    "Terminator" will be bought, because today we rearranged it - made "Terminator-2"
    while it is WORDS and WISHES, but soon the exhibition and here we find out how much they are backed up by CONTRACTS ...
    Quote: Friday
    That would be to make an arrow-like arm similar, and at the end a module with guns,
    Well, something similar already exists ... though the Germans also have for more "open" spaces
    1. Imperial
      Imperial 19 June 2014 19: 28
      0
      If the contracts are from the MO, then yes! for all kinds of customers in this situation, you need to at least score a bit, not fat, money can be found in other places would be a desire.
    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 19 June 2014 21: 38
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      ..true for the Germans and for more "open" spaces

      and not only among the Germans ...
      Panther prototype ...
      height above ground - 12 or 12,5 m
      chassis - Leopard 1
      armament - 3 anti-tank missiles.


      M-95 Cobra (Croatia)
      height above ground - 10 or 12 m
      Chassis - M-84 (T-72) ...

      BMP chassis Marder ..
  28. O. BENDER
    O. BENDER 19 June 2014 19: 53
    0
    All the chatter, try in practice, and then discuss
  29. APASUS
    APASUS 19 June 2014 19: 56
    +1
    Terminator 2
  30. Dmitry Donskoy
    Dmitry Donskoy 19 June 2014 20: 14
    +2
    I like this car good it would be even more interesting if you protect missiles and install active armor + "arena" complex then it would be just SUPER!
  31. andr327
    andr327 19 June 2014 20: 28
    +3
    Guys, can we throw off at least one for the Donbass?
  32. sv68
    sv68 19 June 2014 20: 48
    +1
    and for a happy army we will wait on the basis of Almaty? is it really difficult to build three or four dozen vehicles at least and take them into service as a separate subdivision?
  33. costolom
    costolom 19 June 2014 20: 51
    +2
    To Slovyansk! Yes sir!! And definitely !!!
  34. Kross
    Kross 19 June 2014 21: 00
    +2
    In Donbas would have such a machine, and more !!!
  35. voliador
    voliador 19 June 2014 22: 45
    +2
    Yes, there guys every day some kind of "machine" from the Nazis, or even more than one.
  36. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 19 June 2014 23: 17
    +2
    Good machine. In Syria, Assad fighters in cities would be very useful. But expensive for them so far.
    Oh, dreams, dreams ... hi
  37. vic.danilow2014
    vic.danilow2014 20 June 2014 01: 56
    +1
    At the moment, they need tankers, and in large numbers.
  38. marshes
    marshes 20 June 2014 02: 09
    +1
    The machine is of course "simpotnaya", but we could offer another module with weapons. 30-57 mm with a gun and as a second argument, a 3-6 barrel machine gun 12,7 mm.
  39. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 20 June 2014 06: 52
    -1
    Quote: strong man
    Slavyansk is in an operational environment, "there would be a regiment of terminators and even shells" it's funny to read these snotty comments! New Russia will be in vain!

    it can be seen that it will be so