Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy: Times of thoughtless cheating of ships and boats are over

According to RIA "News", the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov, stated that the Navy would stop "cutting for metal" ships that could be repaired.

On Tuesday, a solemn ceremony was held at the Sevmash shipbuilding plant to make the nuclear submarine Severodvinsk operational in the Navy.

"The times of thoughtless cheating of ships and boats with a large modernization reserve have passed," said Chirkov after the ceremony.

According to him, at the moment the required level of the combat potential of the submarine forces is provided, inter alia, by the implementation of the program for the modernization of multipurpose III-generation submarines.

“The deep modernization and repair of these boats is being carried out at the Zvezda enterprise in Primorye and at the Zvezdochka plant in Severodvinsk,” the commander-in-chief noted.

Today in the Russian Navy 60 submarines: 10 strategic nuclear, more than 30 multipurpose nuclear, the rest diesel and special purpose.

Comments

[artist-mamluk]

Well, thank God, they went to the end.

[SS68SS]

Quote: artist-mamluk

Well, thank God, they went to the end.

Signed up, submarines only 55 left, including diesel. For such a great and huge country like Russia, it’s a shame for officials who allowed such a situation ... Drive in three necks ...

[N.Zero]

they’re not models of ships, from which only dust should occasionally be brushed off ...
operation, maintenance, repair -money -frames- infrastructure ...

[qwert]

Naturally. It should be invested there, and not in the palaces and yachts of oligarchs and officials. It’s not a pity to pay taxes to the fleet

[nycsson]

Quote: SS68SS

Drive in three necks ...

This is the competence of the Prime Minister and the President! Who to drive then?

[andrereu74]

do not drive, but on the count !!!!

[Orik]

Quote: artist-mamluk

Well, thank God, they went to the end.

In fact, in a natural way, the Soviet Navy before the collapse of the country 1 combat ships, there was a place to "roam", and now 380 decrease in more than 270 times.

[Corsair]

Quote: artist-mamluk

Well, thank God, they went to the end.

Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy: Times of thoughtless cheating of ships and boats are over

I won't believe it until the Kirov (Ushakov) CTARK, the firstborn of the Russian nuclear cruiser, is put into operation ...

It’s not worth scattering such ships!

[Interface]

Corsair, forced to grieve. Kirov decided to dispose of.

So a little "drives" our commander in chief. Before the best times of shipbuilding, even before Mars.

http://military-industry.ru/fleet/2202

[wizarden]

Let's hope that out of 4 Eagles, three will still walk. Peter walks, Nakhimov is already being restored, for Lazarev "we keep our fists."

[Corsair]

Quote: Interface

So a little "drives" our commander in chief. Before the best times of shipbuilding, even before Mars.

There are no words ... And what will this "gonivos" for defense capability "result in"? ...
Who will count? The ship is practically NEW, in operation since the 1981 of the year ... For such technically complex structures (I can’t find another word), this is a child’s age ...

[mark1]

Quote: Corsair

I won't believe it until the Kirov (Ushakov) CTARK, the firstborn of the Russian nuclear cruiser, is put into operation ...

Three "Sharks" 941 pr. With the possibility of using 100 tons of ICBMs (for example, the sea version of the "Sarmat") is what first of all needs to be restored.

[qwert]

late .. they are already gone

[typhoon7]

At Discovery Show "Megaslom", the destruction of the Sharks, the heart almost stopped. But what amazed most of all was the calmness with which the boat commander worked as a guide for the Discovery film crew and showed them the mines, how they were cut out, how his favorite was destroyed.

[Corsair]

Quote: typhoon7

At Discovery Show "Megaslom", the destruction of the Sharks, the heart almost stopped. But what amazed most of all was the calmness with which the boat commander worked as a guide for the Discovery film crew and showed them the mines, how they were cut out, how his favorite was destroyed.

And how long did he serve on the boat? Maybe he was already assigned to slow-moving scrap metal? And to him is the fate of the boat really a drum?

[Interface]

Well, well.

And when, when, finally, the time will come when the ships will go off the assembly line like sausages?

And so far all of the surface ships are only corvettes and "Grachenki".
The Hindus managed to build their own aircraft carrier (Vikrant), and we are all waiting for the project.

[armageddon]

Hmm ... NOW TO BE ABLE TO RESTORE ... The redistribution of the WORLD BEGIN ... !!!

[lelikas]

Quote: artist-mamluk

Well, thank God, they passed at the end.

True, they cut primarily the most working and running, and all the junk was left for later.
Now it’s easier to build a new one.

[Hs487]

Quote: artist-mamluk

Well, thank God, they went to the end.

it’s better if they didn’t attack

[volot-voin]

Quote: artist-mamluk

Well, thank God, they went to the end.

Western partners scared Putin in earnest. He does not want the fate of Milosevic and Gaddafi. He got down to business, restores the army and navy. Crimea has joined, Yu-V helps, dill presses. Well, God help him. It’s a good and necessary deed, with natural resources such as the Russian Federation without the army and navy.

[qwert]

Next to the data would be written on the composition of the Soviet Navy as we say on 1987god.
Creepy picture will be

[zeleznijdorojnik]

It would be better if he stated this two weeks ago, when it was customary to cut Admiral Nakhimov-Peter’s Great Sichtership into TARK metal ...

[SOZIN2013]

Quote: artist-mamluk

"The times of thoughtless cheating of ships and boats with a large modernization reserve have passed," said Chirkov after the ceremony.

In the end, what do we have? Write-off and plan for utilization of TARK Admiral Ushakov (Kirov). Sad of course ... (((

[Vtel]

So, it’s time to stop pioneering the delivery of scrap metal and wastepaper - our iron will shoot after centuries, clean it a little and grease it, and add some tricky crap to it, it was more pleasant to bend the enemy’s shob.

[volot-voin]

Quote: Vtel

our iron and after centuries shoots, tilko clean a little and grease nadot

In and out of Ukraine, live evidence of this, PPSh, anti-tank guns of the 2nd World War, KV and T-34 in capable hands is a formidable weapon against the demoralized modern army.
However, off-topic, madly happy for the native fleet that is being reborn.

[portoc65]

HEALTHY SHIPS AS PEOPLE, THERE HAVE SOULS.

[Uncle]

Not enough ships, as I understand it. Even if you write off, there will be nothing left at all.

[portoc65]

It’s just that the times have become alarming .. now even the most rusty vessel can be useful

Quote: Uncle

Not enough ships, as I understand it. Even if you write off, there will be nothing left at all.

[Iline]

Serdyukov would stand on end for it.

[B.T.V.]

Forgive me, even though I personally do not respect Serdyukov, the writing off of warships to "needles" began long before his appointment as Minister of Defense.

[ermolai]

Yes, the topic was swinging tagged, continued EbN, and the fart is so-so fry.

[sgazeev]

Quote: ermolai

Yes, the topic was swinging tagged, continued EbN, and the fart is so-so fry.

Actually, all the "games with utilization" began "Kukuruznik", cutting the bombardments (from the Ukrop language) of the Il-28. But he went the other way, made an emphasis on missiles. Gorbaty and YOBn cut strategic aviation, fortunately, they managed to save 10 Tu- 160 for gas debts from Dill, was the strongest group, NGSH Kvashnin broke through the elimination of the Lourdes radar (Cuba), Cam Ranh airbase (Vietnam). And in the distant past, the Russian Empire profiled the Port Arthur base (China) in 1905. the very little we know.

[LIS 25]

Not really wiser! praise God has come!

[fox21h]

According to RIA Novosti, Admiral Viktor Chirkov, commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, said that the Navy would stop "cutting to metal" ships that could be repaired.

Damn, discovered America, and before that it was not obvious?

[cerbuk6155]

The times of thoughtless decommissioning of ships and boats have passed. Thank God. Finally came.

[Valter1364]

It is high time! And fans of scrap metal should be sent on an excursion to the USA to the Philadelphia Navy base.
Let them look at the canned artillery ships, starting from the 60s.

[portoc65]

Quote: Valter1364

It is high time! And fans of scrap metal should be sent on an excursion to the USA to the Philadelphia Navy base.
Let them look at the canned artillery ships, starting from the 60s.

Not only ships need to be saved, but also all armored vehicles and decommissioned aircraft .. God forbid, everything will come in handy in cases of war.

[volot-voin]

Quote: portoc65

Quote: Valter1364

It is high time! And fans of scrap metal should be sent on an excursion to the USA to the Philadelphia Navy base.
Let them look at the canned artillery ships, starting from the 60s.

Not only ships need to be saved, but also all armored vehicles and decommissioned aircraft .. God forbid, everything will come in handy in cases of war.

Now any old equipment in Donbas would be very useful.

[kodxnumx]

Well, glorious, the USSR built a lot of decent ships and submarines, the Eagles after modernization as part of the Russian Navy will be formidable combat units!

[Khalmamed]

..... RUSSIAN iron IT was done with the SOUL!
..... a cadet of commercials 1989 was fired from 120 mm mortar, already 1948 of the year of release, and this is SHIP.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Khalmamed

..... RUSSIAN iron IT was done with the SOUL!
..... a cadet of commercials 1989 was fired from 120 mm mortar, already 1948 of the year of release, and this is SHIP.

The missile defense resource has been extended in missile defense already .... many times. And here - the ships!
Support!

[Vendora]

But Ushakov was all written off

[Corsair]

Quote: VenDora

But Ushakov was all written off

Right? Or maybe change their minds? ...

[Semen Semyonitch]

I looked at the map, and so wanted to connect on it two areas - Kaliningrad and Crimea ...

[vic.danilow2014]

It would be cool to repair the rest of the Orlan Project cruisers. And many of the overseas mongrels would stop their mouths.

[Russ69]

Quote: vic.danilow2014

Repair the rest of the Orlan Project cruisers

One, it’s already definitely being written off, money has already been allocated for this ...

[Maksim...]

The trouble is that upgrading and repairing some of the ships in this series can cost more than building a new ship. Dismantling the power plant alone would cost what. In this case, it would be more correct to invest in the construction of something new, for example, the same "Ash".

[kodxnumx]

All fairy tales are, the eagles are powerful ships and new such ships of RUSSIA can not be mastered by extreme measures at this stage of time. So the modernization of the Eagles is a great option! Until 2020, you need to do a lot of work and only after you can think about new projects like Orlan.

[saturn.mmm]

I really hope that they will modernize three nuclear submarines pr.941 "Akula", under cruise missiles, such as in the photo.
P.S. Where did Oleg Kaptsov go?

[avt]

Quote: saturn.mmm

P.S. Where did Oleg Kaptsov go?

US aircraft carrier sent to the Persian Gulf - went to drown.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: avt

US aircraft carrier sent to the Persian Gulf - went to drown.

It would be better if he did what his god bestowed, he wrote articles.

[Maksim...]

that they are upgrading three nuclear submarines of pr.941 "Akula"

It will be expensive, and in terms of performance characteristics it will be inferior to today. Better to build new ships.
PS Although an arsenal of 140 missiles would inspire.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Maxim ...

PS Although an arsenal of 140 missiles would inspire.

There mines are such that you can place in two tiers, so multiply the arsenal by two, that is, about 280 pcs. And who was the calculation that they say is expensive? Statements of serious specialists have not been seen anywhere only statements of businessmen on the second issue.
The photo shows that the mines are located between the main buildings, therefore, when carrying out modernization, the task is simplified. (Click)

[kodxnumx]

A respectful time for everything!

[therapist]

SHARKS is a thing !!

[Warhead-xnumx]

One of the reasons (if not the main one) for the write-off of Project 941 is the P-39 missiles, which were produced in Bandaria. Currently, they are not left in the warehouses, they are not produced in our country, and it is rather gemorno to remodel the boat for other missiles. Yes, and the noise of these boats is great, they are more commonly called the "roaring cow".

[starpom]

Quote: CU-3

these boats are very noisy; they are more commonly called the "roaring cow".

Miner, teach materiel. "Roaring cow" 675 project and its derivatives. Noise 941 - within the acceptable range for Soviet submarines. The buoyancy margin is only large.

[OST_51RU]

Yah.
Project 675 was called the "Howling Cow" - boats of the 1st generation. The boats, although outdated, were not defended in the base until the mid-90s, they kept their “partners” in good shape.
By the way, it was very interesting to organize the write-off and disposal of pr.675 sq. Most of them did not first undergo a medium repair with modernization at Zvezdochka, and after the repair they were written off and cut ...

[sever.56]

Finally, we realized that the Fleet must be protected! And then I remember the end of the 80s, 90s ... how many products were "disposed of", my heart bleeds !!!

[Russ69]

Maybe the large landing craft "Mitrofan MOS.KALENKO" will be put into operation. The ship was practically not exploited ...

[Maksim...]

And is he not very old today?

[avt]

Quote: Russ69

Maybe the large landing craft "Mitrofan MOS.KALENKO" will be put into operation. The ship was practically not exploited ...

I heard that problems with remote control, if serious, it’s easier to make new ones.

Quote: Thought Giant

After all, having hulls of vessels still suitable for operation, you can always arm yourself with modern weapons at fairly reasonable financial costs.

Exactly what is acceptable, not out of principle. It is sometimes very expensive to upgrade, especially considering the remaining resource ..

Quote: Maxim ...

And is he not very old today?

We have an acute shortage of "vehicles", even the 66th year of production "Saratov" is coming out of repair.

[Tektor]

Each radar is worth its weight in gold: stealth can be easily detected if it is irradiated by one radar, and the signal at a point at an angle is different.

[Giant thought]

As they say: clever thought comes after. Finally, we realized that it’s not worth shredding everything in any way, because something can come in handy if you look with your master’s eye, otherwise everything turned out without a master in your head. After all, having hulls of vessels still suitable for operation, you can always arm yourself with modern weapons at fairly reasonable financial costs.

[SPLV]

Quote: Thought Giant

Finally realized that shredding everything is not worth it

They understood it before, but only those who understood nothing could do it, and those who could do it did the opposite, if only they could fill it up.

[marder4]

Well, finally, and then about and without reason for the color. met ...

[Midshipman]

Quote: sever.56

Finally, we realized that the Fleet must be protected! And then I remember the end of the 80s, 90s ... how many products were "disposed of", my heart bleeds !!!

Exactly, how many specialists quit ...................

[dmit-xnumx]

There is financial gain and there are State interests — often they do not coincide, but, chasing after the benefit, there is one hundred percent guarantee that the State will be lost - let’s take a look at Ukraine!

[Vreonosec]

Mother Russia gets up !!

[nils]

Who are these "mindless cheaters"?
Why won't they show us at least one?
Although there is one, this is Serdyukov, he was "misled".
So if the fried one didn’t smell, probably everything was written off.

In general, the cancellation of warships having a large modernization reserve is a state crime bordering on treason.

[Warhead-xnumx]

This fault is not only stools, the ships began to cut at a fast pace from the mid 90s.

[SPLV]

Quote: CU-3

It's not just the stool

Does it make sense to look for those responsible? It is time to begin to eliminate the consequences of wrecking, and not to lament over the undead Gorbachev, they still will not be imprisoned. Although I would edify everyone to the third tribe ... I punished a dozen seeds.

[clidon]

From the end of 80 - for that matter.

[lord]

it has not come down to them that cutting needles is not beneficial to the pre-war situation

[vvvvv]

http://warfiles.ru/show-61736-poroshenko-anonsiroval-odnostoronnee-prekraschenie


-ognya-na-vostoke.html
"The Ukrainian security forces, who are conducting a military operation against the militias in the east of the country, will unilaterally cease fire. As reported by Interfax, President of the Republic Petro Poroshenko said. In return, he expects the militias to lay down their arms, free hostages and seized buildings. "

"Earlier, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said that the ceasefire in the South-East of Ukraine should not be extended and the time frame should be limited to a week or ten days. He promised to amnesty the militias, with the exception of those who" committed serious crimes. "Also, First Deputy Prime Minister Ukraine Vitaly Yarema said that the Ukrainian authorities intend to offer the militia a "corridor" during a short ceasefire so that they leave the country.
In turn, the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, Andrei Parubiy, specified that the militias will be given 5-7 days to surrender their weapons. "

Wise guys h.r.e.s. ....
You can be sure that the truce will never happen. It will be broken and the dialogue will not work ...
I believe that we should expect an official call by Russia to the militias to lay down their arms, but they will not follow the recommendations, as was the case with the referenda ...

[chunga-changa]

There’s nothing to write off. Large ships almost single instances were left without the prospect of replacement.

[koksalek]

Time may have passed, but only those responsible for the bacchanalia of the fleet are not and are not foreseen, as if the Martians were stained and flew away

[66 Division IRA]

From practice I know that they were not only "cut into metal" but also towed to the exercise area before large-scale exercises and used as targets!

[Figvam]

Yeah :
last week they said that they would cut Nakhimov
a year ago that sharks will be cut
and today is on you - times have changed
Looks like empty verbiage
I’d be silent already about the times, they’re cutting, and they will cut what it’s time for.
and then what is not the time in the sedimentation tanks comes to "condition" when it is already time.
"more silent, you will pass for smart"

[surovts.valery]

Will he answer for his words? All that is possible has already been written off. Little happened to serve under the wise leadership of Viktor Viktorovich (when he commanded the Primomor Flotilla). No grievances and claims. I will list the not yet completely "dead" warships at the Pacific Fleet: BDK "Alexander Nikolaev", TRKR "Admiral Lazarev". If he means their restoration, then this is unlikely. He understands this very well. Why lie. Or he also joined the general "vertical of power". Any write-off of a warship, from a boat to a cruiser, was approved in Moscow, naturally from the bottom. The current Commander-in-Chief, who actively served in the 90s, including in the posts of brigade commander and superior, knows all this very well. Sorry, but this is PR.

[clidon]

I agree - as shown, you can talk arbitrarily about restoring killed units, but when it comes to practice, miracles do not happen and slowly the technique is being written off. Moreover, it is more profitable for shipbuilders to build new ones than to patch holes in old projects.

[therapist]

How is it that the Yeltsin-American team did not follow the orders of their masters, did not destroy the entire fleet? Here are the lentiugs and what were they paid for?

[Lumumba]

Will they cut more? And there’s nothing more to cut. They left the ships, purely for one battle, literally.

[VadimL]

Modernization is certainly great. That's just a little to upgrade left. Too much was cut into metal or simply rotted.

[97110]

In my experience, a ship without a crew sinks after 2 years. Mb Does the ship stay in the water longer? No need to regret being cut. Need to punish those who made this decision? I do not know. There will be no fleet without money, and there was none. New needs to be built. I recall the story of Academician Krylov, a cat. drew attention to the fact that destroyers become obsolete faster than they become unusable. And he proposed to lighten the hull, reducing the service life, respectively, and to make artillery heavier.

[mark1]

Quote: CU-3

Yes, and the noise of these boats is great, they are more commonly called the "roaring cow".

They have never been called a "roaring cow" (this is for pr 627) super boats, adapted for operations in the Arctic, we will not build such, we need to use the inheritance as efficiently as possible. at the expense of the high cost - a lot of money is spent simply on all sorts of nonsense and here the game is worth the candle. As a BR, you can use the sea version of the "Sarmat", which in turn comes from the R-29.

[smershxnumx]

Quote: SS68SS

For such a great and huge country like Russia, it’s a shame for officials who allowed such a situation ... Drive in three necks ...

Hang right in the main lobby of "THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS" and not rent for six months or for life, FOR HUGE DAMAGE TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY

[Juborg]

For such a country, with huge water borders, all that we have left (is), a drop in the bucket. In Japan, the fleet is close to Russian in number, the exception is only in submarines, the Japanese have only three and those are diesel.

[surovts.valery]

[quote] Today, the Russian Navy has 60 submarines: 10 strategic nuclear, more than 30 multi-purpose nuclear, the rest diesel and special-purpose .quote]
Exalted. The combat composition may include a ship formally. Example - EM "Boevoy" at the Pacific Fleet. In reality, the nearby ships and people observed: the ship is completely disarmed, however, it is listed in the list of the th Pacific Fleet ship.

[sergei-morjak]

Oh, as I recall, in the early 90s we came to Turkey (then, not only warships were cut, the fishing fleet was also put into needles), and there, probably half of the ships at the recycling plant, our warships most likely were so offensive! Yes and the Kaliningrad Canal, when, through Baltiysk, leaving for the Baltic, also half-sunken ships were also enough at that time. How much human labor did the Yeltsin gang destroy Soviet people!

[Dracula]

Meeting the war with our bare ass is our national tradition. Since the 39th year was not, the fifth column is still in place, and is waiting for the team. They cut, drank, sell, buy at exorbitant prices or launch a series of junk. The work is endless. Trouble.

[Winged 38]

Our best ally is getting stronger !!!

[Andrew K]

It is necessary to increase the patancial strategic submarines. They are the best in the world. And the more there will be, the safer we will feel.

[Rock2]

Is it worth it to restore the old stuff? Maybe it is better to order new ships and boats for new weapons? And the Russian enterprises will work, and then some oil platforms (offshore) do. AND?

[OST_51RU]

We must pay tribute to our "democrats" as a result of "democratic changes", today Russia has lost its machine park, specialists, production facilities for the production of ship hulls, turbines and ship auxiliary. mechanisms. And that's just what I know ....
Is there anyone from the Kirov Turbine Works? Is KTZ able to manufacture ship turbines and screw oil pumps, at least such as it did under the Soviets? And what about the Kaluga Turbine Works? How many specialists are there? How does he live under the leadership of "effective managers"?
Well, a little about ship repair. Here, it is little remembered that the Navy of the USSR was built by the great USSR country in which the planned production was organized: the construction and repair of ships were planned, and the production of spare parts and equipment was planned for repairs.
Now there is no planning - only paper reports, the production of spare parts and equipment is in a coma. For ships in service, most of the equipment and spare parts are simply not produced anymore. It comes to the point that in the naval warehouses, garbage dumps, they dismantle for spare parts what was done under the Soviets and in the rain and snow has not yet had time to completely rot ... The specialists are also not all right. trained specialists. Now in the so-called. "colleges" train managers and lawyers.
It is high time to wake up from the "Western values" of our corrupt "democrats".

[Rock2]

By the way, does anyone know the boats of pr. 945 "Barracuda" began to be restored? Somehow infa slipped ...

[kostya-petrov]

The author, probably you are not aware that Vitko awarded the title of "ADMIRAL" to the President of Russia before the celebration of May 9th. He's no longer a vice admiral!
The assignment took place on May 5 of 2014 by decree of the President of the Russian Federation!

[SPLV]

Quote: kostya-petrov

The author, you probably do not know

Kostya, you probably don't know that it is polite to use a different pronoun when addressing? Unfortunately, I am not an author, I tried my best, but "it's a shame for the state" ...

[kostya-petrov]

I apologize if I wrote something wrong.

[sv68]

well, apart from the cancellation of military units they were also sold for copecks for disposal, used as targets for new weapons ... let's see how the words will correspond to deeds

[Yapet100]

Quote: typhoon7

At Discovery Show "Megaslom", the destruction of the Sharks, the heart almost stopped. But what amazed most of all was the calmness with which the boat commander worked as a guide for the Discovery film crew and showed them the mines, how they were cut out, how his favorite was destroyed.

Probably, the commanders went wrong .... I showed them - I got the "green" ones ... and went overland happy ...

[Thompson]

Quote: volot-voin

Quote: artist-mamluk

Well, thank God, they went to the end.

Western partners scared Putin in earnest. He does not want the fate of Milosevic and Gaddafi. He got down to business, restores the army and navy. Crimea has joined, Yu-V helps, dill presses. Well, God help him. It’s a good and necessary deed, with natural resources such as the Russian Federation without the army and navy.

Somehow you perceive the situation interestingly.
Firstly, they didn’t scare, but opened their eyes to their essence and plans.
Secondly, no one wants the fate of Milosevic and Gaddafi and Saddam in addition!
Thirdly, Nobody else wants for the Russians the fate of the peoples of Serbia, Libya and Iraq ... and Putin is the first!

[herruvim]

Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy: Times of thoughtless cheating of ships and boats are over

In other words: For theft, cut off our hands

[niklaus]

Thought Very correct, A lot of cut that can be upgraded. The Russian fleet today is FIVE times smaller than the Soviet fleet in 1988, everyone cut the horror. And today, for cutting, on needles in the queue TARK 1144 Orlan Ushakov, nuclear submarine 949 Antey, BDK 1174 two ships CANNOT do it from scratch Russia such a cruiser will not build a three hundred millionth country with the USSR, only four ships like Orlan have built, and now poor Russia will not pull and one such project. How to reach the bureaucrats responsible for this, they have their own logic. A list of ships of the Navy is not complete.

[kelevra]

Наконец-то взялись за голову!

[Fiero]

Что зa вопли то?
Ужe с 90 годa прошло почти 25 лeт,a это вeдь срок жизни aтомных подводных лодок 1 и 2 поколeния состaвлявших основу aтомного подводного флотa СССР(и они были построeны eщe в 60-70х годaх).
3 Aкулы рaзрeзaли в сeрeдинe 2000х?
Модeрнизaция 6 Aкул обошлaсь бы дорожe строитeльствa 8 Борeeв которыe прослужaт eщe лeт 40...A eсли eщe посмотрeть cколько стоит содeржaть Aкулы которыe рaзмeром с aвиaносeц то их "спaсeниe" выглядит просто бeзумиeм...
Aвианесущиe крейсерa?Kaкиe eщe к чeрту aвиaносцы когдa нужно подводый флот возрaждaть...
Россия нe СШA или СССР дeнeг нa эти пaфосныe корытa для зaпугивaния пaпуaсов тупо нeту.Пусть лучшe Ясeнeй будeт 20-30 штук.
Хорошо,что ужe нaчaли строить флот и этому нужно рaдовaться,a нe ныть,что корaбли и подводныe лодки построeнныe в СССР нe могут служить вeчно

[papont64]

In 90, in Severodvinsk, on the NSR and Zvezdochka, 3 new boats were added to the Navy per year; 3 new boats were built from Krasnoye Sormovo and the Baltic shipyard, and 3 were released after the cap. repair and modernization. And that 8-10 submarines per year.