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An emergency statement by the commander of the DPR militia Igor Strelkov about the current situation on the fronts of Novorossia is alarming. Highly. The neo-Nazi junta, with the help of propaganda and punishers-dogs, managed to establish control over the Ukrainian army, and its "very heavy" advantage in heavy armaments began to be felt.

The main success of the Armed Forces of Novorossia was the "unsealing" of the border with Russia, but with the help of the army, Bandera intended to take it back, to "close the border." The battle for control of the border has already begun: the controlled army threw into battle up to 200 tanks Is a great power ...

Suppose the junta “closes” the border, but then the situation will return to its original state: it will simply take revenge. “A cease-fire can be reached by the end of this week,” said President Poroshenko, that is, the Nazis want to complete this operation and take the militia to the ring until Sunday 22 June. What symbolism, war with new fascists is again connected with this date!

In general, the seizure of the border by militia forced the junta to change the direction of the main attack from the capitals of New Russia to the border. In principle, this is a great strategic success of the militia: Lugansk and Donetsk were withdrawn from the direction of the main attack, and gained time to better prepare for defense.

How the battle abroad will unfold, how and when it will end is the main question of today. Another question: how Moscow will respond to all this. The permission of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation to bring troops into Ukraine to protect the civilian population remains in force, and in order to change the situation in Novorossia, a lot of troops are not necessary. It is enough, perhaps, to establish a no-fly zone over Novorossia, as the USA and Europe did in Libya.

But Putin is silent ... The Russian central media cover the situation in Ukraine adequately, they call everything by their real names. This means that so far all options are open: from helping the militia to recognizing Novorossiya and entering troops.

Perhaps Moscow is waiting for the junta to “close the border.” Then - one scenario, if not can - another. If the troops of Novorossia stand, it means that its statehood has taken place, and this is the best course of action for us.

Chairman of the State Duma’s Foreign Affairs Committee, Alexei Pushkov, proposed introducing sanctions against the Ukrainian officials responsible for what is happening in the Donbas. It is important here that the word “sanctions” was first heard from the Russian side at a high level, and was supported by the expert community.

"Evening" in the New Russia will come if the militia will be rejected from the border. They will not surrender, retreat to Donetsk and Lugansk, and the junta will begin a siege and destruction of these cities. This is the Nazis, who have already agreed before the filtration camps, we will not build illusions about this.

A humanitarian catastrophe of such proportions will unfold in the Donbas that it will be impossible to ignore it. Moscow will have no other options besides intervention, including the provision of direct military assistance to Novorossia, and the destruction of the punitive troops involved in the genocide of the peaceful population of Donbass.

Probably, the “red line” for Moscow will be the storming of Novorossiysk capitals, Lugansk and Donetsk. Its crossing by the Kiev junta will close the era "after the Crimea", and will open the era "after the liberation of Novorossiya". Salute it will thunder sanctions of the West against Russia, and the new Cold War.

Only Washington, the owner of the Kiev junta, can stop such a catastrophic scenario in the South-East of Ukraine. Former US Ambassador to Moscow Matlock said at the conference that Washington should take a step back. We'll see…
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 08: 59
    +32
    Probably, The “red line” for Moscow will be the storming of Novorossiysk capitals, Lugansk and Donetsk.


    Keyword in the article - probably.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 June 2014 09: 07
      +37
      And what will happen if these rams on their tanks again lose their way and find themselves on our territory ?????
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 09: 13
        +50
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what will happen if these sheep in their tanks again get lost and will be on our territory ?????


        Your Government will express deep concern.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 June 2014 09: 21
          +3
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Your Government will express deep concern.

          No, Slava, it’s just interesting what ours will really do. And such impudence is a reason to give them no snot for the snot.
          1. Nevsky_ZU
            Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 09: 23
            +18
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Your Government will express deep concern.

            No, Slava, it’s just interesting what ours will really do. And such impudence is a reason to give them no snot for the snot.


            Well, God forbid that you were right ... A little bit more and I will begin to believe the followers of Kvachkov
          2. Oleg1964
            Oleg1964 18 June 2014 17: 34
            +4
            Sorry, but in my opinion there were plenty of reasons. But the commander-in-chief is waiting for the sssss ...
            1. ankh-andrej
              ankh-andrej 18 June 2014 18: 22
              +5
              What a huge difference there is between a reaction to events in Ossetia and Ukraine. What is the reason? Who will explain why there is such a deflection with phone calls and contracts? Why didn’t you agree with Saakashvili? How are situations different?
              1. saag
                saag 18 June 2014 19: 04
                0
                There were no gas deposits in Georgia
              2. liberty
                liberty 19 June 2014 01: 39
                +3
                The fact that everything began in Ossetia with the destruction of the checkpoint of Russian peacekeepers.
              3. Al_lexx
                Al_lexx 19 June 2014 01: 48
                +2
                Quote: ankh-andrej
                What a huge difference there is between a reaction to events in Ossetia and Ukraine. What is the reason? Who will explain why there is such a deflection with phone calls and contracts? Why didn’t you agree with Saakashvili? How are situations different?

                At the time of the conflict, South Ossetia was a state recognized by us, with its established power structure, which without the help of the Russian Federation (well, almost) was able to prove its independence from Georgia. Abkhazia is the same.
                In the southeast, the situation is completely different. They are just forming the institutions of power, and therefore we cannot consider them a state entity.
              4. Kolya
                Kolya 19 June 2014 05: 30
                0
                Gazprom’s interest is dictating. There was no such interest in Ossetia. And whatever you say, we are really very dependent on gas sales. Hamsters will immediately come out to the Swamp.
          3. Znayka
            Znayka 18 June 2014 22: 27
            +1
            Well, when the Ukropovskaya BMPeshka got off the "road" there was a bunch of Mi-28s (with a full suspension) flying ... So, if ordered, I think there will be a lot of scrap metal ...)))
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        3. ZU-23
          ZU-23 18 June 2014 11: 40
          +4
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Quote: Alexander Romanov And what will happen if these rams on their tanks again lose their way and find themselves on our territory ????? Your Government will express deep concern.

          The fact of the matter is that they got lost, but we really understand it and expressed our concern laughing . Indeed, in essence, whoever there just does not drive in these tanks and whoever there does not give orders, but they have not fired at us yet. All the same, Ukraine so far is not for us like Palestine for Israel, where shooting is underway at any rustle.
          1. holderrr
            holderrr 18 June 2014 19: 47
            +3
            In the Kuybyshevsky district of the Rostov region, residents of border villages often sit in cellars. Bullets and splinters fly.
        4. Jin
          Jin 18 June 2014 12: 40
          +23
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Your Government will express deep concern.


          laughing good Yeah, for the last one hundred and first time. Today Putin spoke with Parashayenko, he expressed deep concerndue to death Russian journalists VGTRK, everyone began to insist on the investigation and the search for those responsible. WHAT FOR FIG! am And the fact that every day they kill and maim several (sometimes dozens) of civilian RUSSIAN residents, is it as if violet ??? It seems that everything is quiet and calm, and suddenly once! And they killed the journalist! I can’t already THIS AND THESE not see not hear am Why are they silent as related ?! Nothing but deep concern! sad
          1. sskalinin
            sskalinin 18 June 2014 15: 14
            +3
            Respect and fully support I wonder how many civilians have already been soaked "quietly" there?
          2. larand
            larand 18 June 2014 17: 45
            +10
            after Normandy, the commander in chief is completely unrecognizable. If only he would say something to the people. Probably Obama is now very worried that he was seduced by a fairy tale about a terrible Russian bear, otherwise he would not give up the Crimea.
          3. liberty
            liberty 19 June 2014 01: 46
            +4
            Well, let's take a look at how the Russian government looks at this. VGTRK journalists are Russians. Civilians may be Russian, but not Russians. So it's silly to write angry messages with red emoticons here without turning on your thought. Good. Do you want the Russian Federation to send troops to the territory of Ukraine and begin to destroy the national guard. So you support the act of military aggression. And if you support, maybe you yourself will go to war?
          4. Bogachev G.O.
            Bogachev G.O. 19 June 2014 23: 36
            0
            it’s like the prosecutor called the bloody maniac and asked him not to mess up anymore
          5. Bogachev G.O.
            Bogachev G.O. 19 June 2014 23: 37
            0
            it’s like the prosecutor called the bloody maniac and asked him not to mess up anymore
        5. aleks_29296
          aleks_29296 18 June 2014 19: 22
          0
          And what will happen if these sheep in their tanks again get lost and will be on our territory ?????

          Your Government will express deep concern.

          Yes, no, I think the next time they will get Lyuli.
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      2. muginov2015
        muginov2015 18 June 2014 09: 14
        +4
        Correctly will turn out
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 June 2014 09: 19
          -13
          Quote: muginov2015
          Correctly will turn out

          Russian teacher?
          1. anip
            anip 18 June 2014 10: 01
            +9
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Russian teacher?

            To write correctly, you must be a Russian teacher?
            (http://tsya.ru/mnemonic)
            1. PiP
              PiP 18 June 2014 11: 14
              +10
              Quote: anip
              To write correctly, you must be a Russian teacher?

              And to work correctly on a computer, you need to know its device? I forgot the spelling 20 years ago, but I work with my hands and head. Do you want to point to AshiPki, write in a personal ... You do not need to turn into a person who does not want to say anything, but wants to. hi
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 18 June 2014 09: 20
        +10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what will happen if these sheep in their tanks again get lost and will be on our territory ?????

        Confused rams are usually slaughtered by wolves ... wink Hello Sasha!!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 June 2014 09: 44
          +10
          Quote: Tersky
          Confused rams are usually slaughtered by wolves ...

          Hello hello! It is not enough to cut out the stray, all the frontier herd must be castrated to the very neck. Well and further towards Kiev.
          1. 78bor1973
            78bor1973 18 June 2014 22: 28
            +1
            Ukrainians do not have so many troops to cover almost 1500 km of the border; they wanted to do it a month ago. Ten people per kilometer of the border is already 15000 people, and ATO ...
      4. kolyhalovs
        kolyhalovs 18 June 2014 09: 24
        +12
        And it's not a joke. I suppose that if the offensive along the border dies, then they only have to "get lost" in this way, so that their desired official war between Ukraine and Russia finally begins. Neither planes against women, nor hail, nor prohibited phosphorus shells, nor a battered embassy, ​​nothing helps ... Oh, yes, there is also chemical weapons in the storehouse ...
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 18 June 2014 16: 18
          +3
          .... Oh yes, there is still chemical weapons in the coffin .......
          .... In-in !!! It seems that everything is going to this ...
          1. Dostoevsky
            Dostoevsky 18 June 2014 23: 05
            -2
            What kind of chemical weapon? But what about these? Maybe they also falsified, as with the phosphorus bombs from the National Guard? Admire and this is all the time in our Russian media. Tired of matching.
            http://www.unian.net/politics/930180-jurnalistyi-zvezdyi-opisali-kak-sfalsifitsi

            rovali-novosti-o-fosfornoy-bombardirovke-foto-dokumentyi.html
            1. andrejwz
              andrejwz 19 June 2014 01: 39
              +1
              Quote: Dostoevsky
              What kind of chemical weapon?

              Dill.
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      5. RUSS
        RUSS 18 June 2014 09: 27
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what will happen if these sheep in their tanks again get lost and will be on our territory ?????


        It will turn out to provoke something, a start has already been made: the shelling of mortars on our territory, crossing the border with BMP, the murder and capture of Russian journalists, and then "appetites" will grow.
        1. jjj
          jjj 18 June 2014 15: 51
          +1
          Another helicopter flew. But he was shot down
      6. Roshchin
        Roshchin 18 June 2014 12: 49
        0
        There will be another note of protest.
      7. Makarov
        Makarov 18 June 2014 13: 16
        +2
        The worst thing - nothing (most likely) will say ayayay and basta .... and then our sheep will say that now the border will lie here, here and here ... we decided so unilaterally .... ((((( (
      8. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 18 June 2014 13: 25
        +1
        Our Tu22 will also accidentally get lost and instead of the Baltic, they will inflict (training) strikes on the "Conditional Adversary" near Donetsk and Lugansk.
      9. volot-voin
        volot-voin 18 June 2014 13: 28
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what will happen if these rams on their tanks again lose their way and find themselves on our territory ?????

        I really hope that their tanks will then be confiscated
      10. misterwulf
        misterwulf 18 June 2014 18: 57
        +4
        In general, it is high time to demand from Ukro-VGN to withdraw troops from the borders of Russia by ... km-300. Like, we are afraid. And there are reasons. Invade the bastards!

        Don’t take it away - you are to blame ...
      11. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 18 June 2014 21: 28
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what will happen if these rams on their tanks again lose their way and find themselves on our territory ?????

        These tanks will go a little charred to the army of Novorosia. Thanks to the provocations of Ukraine, Russia received a legitimate reason to bring its troops to the border. If the gun hangs on the wall, then it will certainly shoot.
      12. e-froloff
        e-froloff 22 June 2014 12: 31
        0
        Yes, they simply went to BMD for moonshine and got lost in a drunk! And when they understood, they shed it! Our team needed to take the whole crew prisoner and judge in Russia!
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 18 June 2014 09: 15
      +11
      "A ceasefire can be achieved by the end of this week," said President Poroshenko, that is, the Nazis want to complete this operation and take the militias into the ring until Sunday 22 June. What symbolism, the war with the new fascists is again connected with this date!
      But in fact, the passionary radicals that were needed during the overthrow of Yanukovych must somehow be neutralized. War is the best way for this. Formed from inadequate units that just need to be put to slaughter. One of their deaths is an excellent occasion for conducting patriotic campaigns and visualizing the "vile" hand of Moscow.
      1. Cat
        Cat 18 June 2014 20: 10
        +1
        And why then to bind with blood all Ukrainian cops and the army? Today came the infa about sending for punitive operation graduates of the operational and operational tactical link courses (all!). To gain practical experience ...
    3. Bobxnumx
      Bobxnumx 18 June 2014 09: 15
      +7
      Much is clear, the trouble is that the expectation of crossing the "red line" is worth many human lives.
    4. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 09: 50
      +3
      Probably, the “red line” for Moscow will be the storming of Novorossiysk capitals, Lugansk and Donetsk. Its crossing by the Kiev junta will close the era "after the Crimea", and will open the era "after the liberation of Novorossiya". Salute it will thunder sanctions of the West against Russia, and the new Cold War.


      The answer is very interesting

    5. vezunchik
      vezunchik 18 June 2014 10: 08
      0
      idit theory ...
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    7. PRN
      PRN 18 June 2014 12: 03
      0
      The only question is, will the junta have enough strength to storm at least one of such large cities !?
      1. volot-voin
        volot-voin 18 June 2014 14: 08
        +6
        Quote: PRN
        and the junta will have enough strength to storm at least one of such large cities !?

        It may not be enough to storm (they have been fighting near Slavyansk for a month), but they can completely kill, destroy houses, infrastructure, and kill residents.
        As in the proverb: "What I don't eat, then I bite."
    8. twviewer
      twviewer 18 June 2014 12: 06
      +6
      And yet I do not understand our diplomacy. Well, in the West there is no concept of logic and justice. (The strong is always to blame for the powerless) Switch to the language of the hysteria and greed understood by the opponent. A-A-A, they bring troops to our border. Take it away immediately. We are afraid and right now, like E ... AAAA, they steal our gas and don’t give money. Thieves immediately return, otherwise right now ...
      And I think things will go, there is no escape from such a primitive.
      Shl, be simpler, more elegant, "wider" :)
      because when the enemy is demoralized by your diplomatic inevitable justice :) it is easier to act promptly
    9. VAF
      VAF 18 June 2014 12: 28
      +10
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Keyword in the article - probably.


      +! soldier how regrettable it is to state recourse

      Despite the optimistic title of the article recourse here is a quote : ... Lugansk and Donetsk were withdrawn from the direction of the main attack, and gained time to better prepare for the defense.

      if memory serves. then the item Metallist (experimental fruit, fruit and berry farm), located on the crest of a hill ("mountains" of the Merry), 4 km to the city center, a panorama ... the whole city at a glance (this is not even Mount Karachun ..it is. as on a "tray" or saucer wassat ).
      Almost behind the descent from her railway station.
      According to our TV media reports, "all the units deployed in Lugansk went over to the side of the militia" .. the question is where are the tanks of the tank brigade stationed in Kam Brod request
      What is the strengthening of the defense of Donetsk, if only today they finally occupied the building of the Oblast Prosecutor’s Office (question ... but on ... is it needed) ???

      For lovers of fellow this is not a criticism. but just some "moments" that I do not understand soldier
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 18 June 2014 14: 50
        +7
        Quote: vaf
        ..question .. where are the tanks of the tank brigade deployed in Kam. Brode

        I'm also wondering - where are those paratroopers who left the airport? Something you don't hear about them, won't it work out like with "Sagaidachny"?
        1. VAF
          VAF 18 June 2014 15: 02
          +6
          Quote: lelikas
          I also wonder - where are those paratroopers who left the airport?


          The same .. "interesting" moment recourse+ wink It seems to be like our flag was raised and the dill was "piled" at the airport .... and then ... a pause and silence request

          But today, with "pomp" after the news about the "capture of the Regional Prosecutor's Office" ... today in Donetsk another belay rally of Donetsk miners. about 1000 people .. with requirements for the "newly made Fuhrer" Poroshenko.
          Have not been rallied yet? Or are they those after the shift?
          Are you waiting for "Gradom" and "Tornado" .. "to fill" ??? fool
    10. irat
      irat 18 June 2014 19: 46
      +1
      Fighting in the border zone for the Ukrainian National Guard is very risky. Firstly, shells can fly into Russian territory. Secondly, the militias have room to retreat and gather strength.
    11. bandabas
      bandabas 19 June 2014 08: 39
      0
      That's it. PROBABLY. And a bunch of dead.
  2. Gorbtk
    Gorbtk 18 June 2014 09: 00
    +6
    Former US ambassador to Moscow Matlock said at a conference that Washington should take a step back. We will see…

    It’s not a step to be taken, but to run. But apparently, political progress is already underway ...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 June 2014 09: 07
      +11
      Quote: Gorbtk
      Former US ambassador to Moscow Matlock said at a conference that Washington should take a step back. We will see…

      The United States often declares one thing and does another. I would not hope that they would stop adding oil to the fire, in the extreme case, they would change the pattern of intervention. hi
      1. Andrey57
        Andrey57 18 June 2014 09: 12
        +8
        Oil in the fire mattress covers can and will stop adding, just replace it with napalm - it burns better)))))
      2. gor530
        gor530 18 June 2014 09: 34
        +5
        I would also note that there is no limit to the hypocrisy of the Americans, for them there is nothing sacred except bucks, to say and do not do it, it's just a great combination. Russia urgently needs to intervene, so the delay has already brought so much blood. but I think we will fight already on our territory. our rulers are decisive only in relation to their people.
    2. avt
      avt 18 June 2014 11: 01
      +1
      Quote: Gorbtk
      Former US ambassador to Moscow Matlock said at a conference that Washington should take a step back. We will see…

      Yes? Riali? And at what conference? I would like to clarify the composition, well, before whom he said this on the subject of the weight of the contingent.
  3. Antokha
    Antokha 18 June 2014 09: 00
    +5
    If the troops of New Russia survive, it means its statehood has taken place, and this is the best option for us to develop events.

    And if they don’t stand it? What needs to be done now and I want to believe that soon there will be help!
    1. PMM
      PMM 18 June 2014 12: 34
      +12
      Russia faces a difficult choice. Everyone is just waiting for open actions, moreover, they are simply openly pushing and provoking. It is impossible to succumb to such obvious provocations, simply because the curators of that situation are just waiting for this. However, staying away is also difficult. It is hoped that Russia will nevertheless act as smartly as it did before, i.e. contrary to the plans of the enemy, replaying him and taking the initiative in his own hands.
      One way or another, time plays on both militias and Russia. Yes, people are dying, and Ukrainian security forces are in some places crowding out militias, but the main war is not there, but at the political level. The same Europe, all sorts of OSCE, UN will simply get tired of the endless statements about the speedy termination of the military operation, and the load of public opinion in the West will more and more incline its governments to the position of Russia. The United States - this certainly will not stop, but the situation will move in a different direction. Therefore, I believe that calling Russia for an open invasion is not at all right and plays into the hands of the enemy.
      This is my vision and opinion.
  4. RUSS
    RUSS 18 June 2014 09: 02
    +13
    Probably, the “red line” for Moscow will be the storming of Novorossiysk capitals, Lugansk and Donetsk.

    And now there is a resort? Peace and quiet!
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 09: 04
      +5
      Quote: RUSS
      Probably, the “red line” for Moscow will be the storming of Novorossiysk capitals, Lugansk and Donetsk.

      And now there is a resort? Peace and quiet!


      Yeah ... the streets are empty, everyone is sitting at home ... Probably (the author's favorite word), watching the World Cup. angry
    2. Black
      Black 18 June 2014 11: 49
      0
      "Red line" for Moscow will be the assault on the Novorossiysk capitals, Lugansk and Donetsk.
      ... probably ... most likely ... then ...

      Can the red line become to Sevastopol, to Moscow? Maybe this feature in the cells of Swiss banks? ....
  5. Andrey57
    Andrey57 18 June 2014 09: 02
    +12
    Perhaps Moscow is waiting for the junta to “close the border.” Then - one scenario, if not can - another.

    Moscow does not wait at all, yes, of course it does not yell, but acts in silence. Compare the boxing of the fighter in the photo and the first shots of the militia, dressed in any way, with the hunting rifles. The difference is noticeable even not to a specialist, but this is only the visible side. I. Strelkov never said that they save every mine and every shot to RPGs and "Nona", but he said that the dill over Slavyansk has not been flying freely for a long time, again MANPADS - the dill have already lost half of the turntables capable of taking off, and other "litaki", there is also a bunch of broken-down armored personnel carriers, tanks.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 09: 08
      +2
      Quote: Andrey57
      Perhaps Moscow is waiting for the junta to “close the border.” Then - one scenario, if not can - another.

      Moscow does not wait at all, yes, of course it does not yell, but it acts in silence. Compare the pack of the soldier in the photo and the first shots of the militia, dressed at random, with hunting rifles.


      Yeah, are you going to stop anyone with this outfit, the stoned fighters of the Lyashka battalion or the regular army, which conducts a military operation, and without regard to poets, throws the enemy with the corpses of their soldiers? Let me remind you that the place Happiness, that near Lugansk, has already been taken.
    2. kolyhalovs
      kolyhalovs 18 June 2014 09: 34
      +9
      But the militia has never once gone on the offensive! Small painful counterattacks and nothing more. So their strength and help is not enough. The advantage of ukrov is undeniable. All that the militias can do is heroically hold their positions, and cannot be defeated in such a way in war. So when I hear about some liberated district center, about the retreat of the Ukrainians, about the defeated artillery of punitive, then well done Putin. And so it is pulling something incomprehensibly, she plays cats and mice with the USA, and Ukrainians hammer, and Ukrainians crawl an hour in a teaspoon, but crawl, and people die innocent ...
    3. gor530
      gor530 18 June 2014 09: 41
      +4
      It’s simply inconvenient for Strelkov to substitute Russia until he decides to prove himself, but the call of despair shows how much you can hesitate, after that it will be even more difficult, there is already everything: mountains of the dead, genocide of the civilian population, militarization of the country, the persecution and destruction of dissidents. it’s interesting what else should happen for the UN and Russia to react in addition to words.
    4. Turkestan
      Turkestan 18 June 2014 10: 43
      +11
      dill have already lost half of the turntables capable of taking off, and other "litaki", there are also a bunch of broken-down armored personnel carriers, tanks.

      THIS IS NOT TRUE.
      Ukraine has enough military equipment in storage, enough factories and military potential to restore it. Now MILITARIZATION OF UKRAINE is in high speed. The restoration of the Ukrainian army is a matter of time. Moreover, it is not limited by human resources.
      1. smile
        smile 18 June 2014 16: 14
        +3
        Turkestan
        Here you are right. But will the Ukrainian economy withstand the militarization and long-term maintenance of the BD? The Ukrainian troops are already straining with fuel and other supplies. Imagine that all over Ukraine will come in a few months? Especially when applying all this gas problems. The whole industry will rise up with them, let alone private transport. They thwarted the sowing season (largely due to fuel), and there are no funds for the purchase of food there. And given the habit of Maidan instilled in Ukrainians, one can predict the complete collapse of statehood, the economy, and then the army ....
        Currently, Ukraine has no resources for a more or less normal survival of the state, even without any war ....
        And as for human resources - that's right, they are. But it is doubtful that they have a sufficiently trained mobility reserve, which is so eager for war. Yes, if we send troops to Ukraine, a significant part of Ukrainians fooled by propaganda will flee to the Army itself, but so far this aspiration has not been observed, but rather the opposite.
  6. saag
    saag 18 June 2014 09: 03
    0
    Donetsk will be taken quickly if desired, but with Lugansk everything is not so clear
    1. Andrey57
      Andrey57 18 June 2014 09: 10
      +4
      "Fast" the Nazis will not be able to take anything, besides, they "took", they also need to keep it, and this is much more difficult.
      1. saag
        saag 18 June 2014 09: 58
        -1
        Donetsk airport as an example
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  8. Normal
    Normal 18 June 2014 09: 04
    +13
    We will see…


    Well....
    We'll see.
    The video was published on 4 March. Watch from 0: 50


    They tried ...
    They liked it...

    GDP looked at those who give such an order ...
    1. saag
      saag 18 June 2014 09: 10
      +4
      That's right, they tried, they got a taste, and citizen Putin what?
      1. gor530
        gor530 18 June 2014 09: 46
        -24
        Putin is chewing a tie
      2. lenamir
        lenamir 18 June 2014 09: 50
        +17
        ... no guys a little wrong! Why should everyone fight the GDP and the Russian soldier? help with equipment and weapons, yes, but let them take up arms to fight! and then pot-bellied Ukrainians in earnings in Russia from the Donbas, and half left Novorossia as refugees! and our sons and husbands must all the time
        1. Normal
          Normal 18 June 2014 10: 04
          +3
          Quote: lenamir
          ... no guys a little wrong! Why should everyone fight the GDP and the Russian soldier? help with equipment and weapons, yes, but let them take up arms to fight!


          Recognize the DPR and the LPR, conclude an agreement on mutual assistance and openly, officially implement effective military assistance by volunteers and weapons. In no case do not recognize the results of the coup in Kiev and fake presidential elections in Ukraine. Set a no-fly zone over the east of Ukraine. Because the punitive operation entered the final stage, and military assistance may be late, launching air strikes against clusters of armored vehicles and artillery of the Kiev regime to equalize chances. Air raids, as shown by the practice of the United States and Israel, have never been interpreted as entering the war. This is enough for the defense of Donbass and the formation of subsequently New Russia. The ground forces should not be introduced in order not to further stir up nationalist sentiment among Ukrainians of the Center. Having swallowed the benefits of European integration, over time they themselves will ask for New Russia-Ukraine. Perhaps the Orthodox residents of Volyn and Rivne region will join. In addition to Galicia, located on the other side of the geopolitical fault (S. Huntington). Galicia is inhabited by a completely different people, with a different faith and a different mentality. It is a born ally of the West, and other people will never become there. Therefore, there should be no place for them in Ukraine.

          topwar.ru/52202-rossii-uzhe-boyatsya-pzdno.html
        2. Salamander
          Salamander 18 June 2014 11: 04
          +4
          Quote: lenamir
          ... no guys a little wrong! Why should everyone fight the GDP and the Russian soldier? help with equipment and weapons, yes, but let them take up arms to fight! and then pot-bellied Ukrainians in earnings in Russia from the Donbas, and half left Novorossia as refugees! and our sons and husbands must all the time


          Help with equipment and weapons, as well as specialists of different "profile". Why is Benya still happy?
        3. alauda1038
          alauda1038 18 June 2014 11: 48
          +3
          I agree, look at the ryahi of some refugees and the question to the border guards and why let them let them blow their house
        4. Makarov
          Makarov 18 June 2014 13: 20
          -3
          because this rubbish will come after us to Kazakhstan, Belarus and to you ... You do not owe anything to anyone, but then it will be too late
          1. 31231
            31231 18 June 2014 20: 58
            0
            Oh Makarov!
            You fought against Bandyukovich ?! And now against whom? Russians knocked out for war?
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 09: 11
      +1
      Well....
      We'll see.
      The video was published on 4 March. Watch from 0: 50


      They tried ...
      They liked it...

      GDP looked at those who give such an order ...


      I am still surprised how no one did video cutting to the words of Putin in these frames, and the real state of affairs in Novorossia. Putin's words impose on the corpses of Russian Donbas and Lugansk .... In my opinion, there will be a good trump card for the pseudo opposition.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 18 June 2014 09: 23
        +4
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        I am still surprised how no one did video cutting to the words of Putin in these frames, and the real state of affairs in Novorossia. Putin's words impose on the corpses of Russian Donbas and Lugansk .... In my opinion, there will be a good trump card for the pseudo opposition.


        I wonder what Putin's rating is now, otherwise in recent months they have been "blowing in our ears" about an exorbitant rating, and in recent weeks they have been silent ...
        1. lenamir
          lenamir 18 June 2014 10: 00
          +17
          Clearly, Putin is to blame again !!!! but maybe where is Odessa, Nikolaev? Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk? stuck their heads in w - y? and Putin, let’s introduce troops! yeah now! let them rise themselves! and protect their land from America and the Nazis! and then zadolbal already .... Putin come on! Ukrainians leave Novorossia, (watch TV), and our guys must fight .....
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 18 June 2014 10: 54
            +3
            Quote: lenamir
            Putin, let's send troops!


            The question is not about sending troops, but that Putin is silent and there is no clear opinion and attitude towards New Russia, the majority is affected by the opinion that the Kremlin does not notice the war in the Southeast, and if it does, it is only stated by Lavrov and Churkin.
            1. Salamander
              Salamander 18 June 2014 11: 07
              0
              Quote: RUSS
              Quote: lenamir
              Putin, let's send troops!


              The question is not about sending troops, but that Putin is silent and there is no clear opinion and attitude towards New Russia, the majority is affected by the opinion that the Kremlin does not notice the war in the Southeast, and if it does, it is only stated by Lavrov and Churkin.


              This is the most annoying thing !!!! Silence!!! Already express a specific position to your people, otherwise the "tower" is demolished from uncertainty request
              1. g1v2
                g1v2 18 June 2014 11: 23
                +5
                If it’s blowing, imagine what happens to the piglet. He, too, does not know what the GDP will do. Therefore, it broadcasts about the ceasefire and humanitarian corridors. And if something he ordered to cease fire, but the security forces did not listen to him. Looking for retreat moves in advance. In addition, after all, GDP makes decisions based on analysts' reports, and not because it wanted to. Personally, on the contrary, I like that he is silent, which means an unexpected move is possible. Going where the enemy is waiting for you to be stupid, but to outwit and do something not obvious is already an application for victory.
          2. kodxnumx
            kodxnumx 18 June 2014 11: 22
            +5
            YES you are right when asked where Odessa Kharkov Dnepropetrovsk is where they are? I think waiting for the situation to sway in Lugansk, Slavyansk, Donetsk, as soon as the SS troops get a cap and the militia will win a strategic victory with a large number of prisoners, I think this will be a signal for everybody!
          3. Andrey82
            Andrey82 18 June 2014 12: 36
            +1
            Now Odessa citizens and Kharkovites with bare hands and open chests will come out against armed PSs and mercenaries stationed in their cities and defeated with sticks and stones. Do you yourself believe that?
            1. kodxnumx
              kodxnumx 18 June 2014 16: 12
              +1
              Turn that if Kharkov rebels like Odessa, and when it is obvious to people who already with water in their hands they wet this Nazi scum then they will not need to go with their bare hands, go to the armed SS punishers to the teeth, I think the weapon and everything necessary will be delivered to the gathering places, but people in these cities still hope for something, although you can understand many have arrested the cities, they’re scared, but you yourself understand that the choice is for the citizens, for them the citizens of the DPR cannot make this choice, they can unite with them and continue to uphold decent life of the Russian world, the world of the people of winners.
              1. svd-xnumx
                svd-xnumx 18 June 2014 22: 05
                0
                Turn that if Kharkov rebels like Odessa, and when it is obvious to people who already with weapons in their hands they wet this Nazi scum then they will not need to with bare hands
                In the meantime, they make and repair tanks and armored personnel carriers for the army there in Kharkiv, and try to give quality not like with a contract for Iraq. To arrange work at the plant, just spit, where did the chips come into the engine, where the sand was added to the grease and the whole machine was tested will pass, but will not reach the front.
        2. Agat
          Agat 18 June 2014 10: 50
          +2
          And why do you need his rating? Does he affect something?
          Abama has a low rating, and this "bad man" still continues to shit everywhere.
      2. Normal
        Normal 18 June 2014 10: 02
        -2
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        In my opinion, a trump card for the pseudo opposition will be a good one.


        Excuse me, what kind of opposition, even with the prefix "pseudo". Nemtsov with Kasyanov and Khakamada? Yes, at least they will be filled with trump cards only zilch.
        The entire opposition, its political significance and danger to Russia are completely invented in the Presidential Administration.
        Fighting Nanai Boys.

        But the word is not a sparrow, you won’t catch it and the pseudo-opposition has nothing to do with it.
        1. smile
          smile 18 June 2014 16: 27
          +5
          Normal
          Yeah, and the opposition, it turns out, Putin invented? And they personally sent them to the American embassy? And the populist slogans made them scream, which you spread here with foam at your mouth? And he also tried to arrange a maidan on a swamp?
          You are probably therefore disowning the marshes, promoting their ideas here in every possible way, that they, it turns out, receive a double salary - from the owners and from Putin, who, it turns out, also leads America and its special services working for us?
          Oh, what a radish Putin! Ah, what a giant of thought you are! ....
          When you chop the uterus the truth, then hold on to your hand - it’s already been cut off ... it’s completely cut off ... At all ... :)))
          1. Normal
            Normal 18 June 2014 21: 14
            -1
            Caution!
            Before us is a patient with Putinitis in the acute phase.

            Aggressive.

            At the word "opposition" it goes berserk. During a seizure, he catches devils and throws himself at others with the words "barrrans! Homosexuals !!! belolentochniki !!! Nazis !!! liberoids and fascists !!!" whom he considers all who have a point of view different from his delusional fabrications.

            Inadequate.

            Any non-complimentary reference to his idol is perceived as an attempt on the fundamentals.
            He does not understand how one can think that power can belong not only to GDP.

            Active as a plague bacillus during the breeding season.

            Suffers from a loss of orientation in time and space.
            He feels himself in the past tense (the period of mass protests) and simultaneously in two geographical points (Moscow and Kiev), which is clearly demonstrated by statements of this kind - "Maidan on the swamp"(what does that mean ???)
            I have never been to these places at the indicated time, but I consider myself an expert on the processes taking place there and the groups of people and social movements involved in them, which is typical.

            Associates himself with his avatar and responds to the nickname "toothy", calling in response his fellow in misfortune "clawed"

            Contagious.

            Isolation from NORMAL people is needed in a specialized closed-type medical facility.

            He needs constant monitoring by a specialist with a specific profile, treatment with electricity, peace (in emergency situations), care, love and affection, judging by his anger and aggressiveness, was deprived of his childhood.

            The last time I regained consciousness about half a year ago
            smile (2) RU January 26, 2014 23:46 ↑

            Normal
            Wow .... I began to envy you, without humor I say this .... We sometimes get confused, but it turns out there is something in common. :)))


            Since then, the disease has progressed and the patient is apparently hopeless.
            Someone, invite the orderlies, please.
  9. Strong point
    Strong point 18 June 2014 09: 04
    +4
    Washington must take a step back. We will see…

    Well yes, - a step back, regrouping, - and two forward.
  10. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol 18 June 2014 09: 05
    +3
    Everything is sad in New Russia at the moment. Strelkov evidently did not expect ignorance from our government, not just in words but in deeds. There is clearly despair in his eyes. But really .. one or three tanks from the pedestals will not help him. We need more serious weapons, so that Ukrainians burn like dry grass in the heat.
    1. Anper
      Anper 18 June 2014 09: 43
      +7
      Quote: d1m1drol
      Shooters apparently did not expect ignor from our government

      I recall that after one of the similar statements by Strelkov, helicopters somehow began to fall heavily.
  11. domokl
    domokl 18 June 2014 09: 07
    +9
    At the moment, it seems to me that it is enough to put the troops on the border on alert and deliver a couple of tank regiments to the borders. The capture of a block of militia posts cannot be carried out without violating the borders of the Russian Federation. Including ...
    There have already been precedents and a warning too ... which means that the Russian Federation can, with a clear conscience, shoot down everything that flies to us ... And respond to flown shells and mines ... Having deprived of dill advantages in the air, we will practically reduce the fighting to shootings ... In ground combat, the riflemen represent a serious force ...
  12. ispaniard
    ispaniard 18 June 2014 09: 08
    +4
    Let the Americans better look after their stunted dollar and deal with Iraq, otherwise they are used to going to the toilet "for big" and not cleaning up after themselves ...
  13. Strong point
    Strong point 18 June 2014 09: 08
    0
    Quote: d1m1drol
    But really .. one or three tanks from the pedestals will not help him

    And what - do these ammunition really exist (76 - 85mm calibres)?! ..
    1. Roland
      Roland 18 June 2014 10: 50
      +2
      As far as I know, the cannon of the IS-3 removed from the pedestal is equipped with shells from the D-30 howitzer (with which the junta hits cities) there is also a 122 mm caliber. If we imagine that the militias will intercept the supply train with such shells, then they may well beat the punishers from the "monument". Yes, for sure, and in our warehouses where the thread is lying around. We must give it to the militia.
  14. Antokha
    Antokha 18 June 2014 09: 09
    +1
    Quote: d1m1drol
    Everything is sad in New Russia at the moment. Strelkov evidently did not expect ignorance from our government, not just in words but in deeds. There is clearly despair in his eyes. But really .. one or three tanks from the pedestals will not help him. We need more serious weapons, so that Ukrainians burn like dry grass in the heat.


    I want to believe that they communicate and the whole situation is under control ...
  15. Ilya 22
    Ilya 22 18 June 2014 09: 09
    0
    Matlock said at the conference that Washington should take a step back. We will see…

    He said something to him, he said, in order to pull the time again, so that the fascists of Kok could destroy the civilians more and destroy the cities of South-East, another hypocrisy, to drive this scum to his country without history full of debts, lies, debauchery
  16. Archikah
    Archikah 18 June 2014 09: 09
    +13
    No one can be completely sure what will happen tomorrow. So making forecasts is a thankless job and probably not decent. The Russian Federation may not allow the border to be closed. Moreover, dill carry out "demarcation" in violation of existing borders. They "slaughter" themselves quietly (the rural nature of the new elites affects), small areas of the territory of the Russian Federation. Everyone sees everything and everyone understands everything. The most crucial moment is coming for GDP. Do not think to whip up hysteria around him. We should only talk about what is happening at the moment - we will not prophesy. Sometimes you have to wait to win. Wait until the very last moment. And strike when the enemy is in front of you in full growth in anticipation of your victory. Glory to Russia!!! Yes
  17. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 18 June 2014 09: 10
    +3
    Bandera made a big mistake when they were born. Natsik burn in the fire.
  18. Dave36
    Dave36 18 June 2014 09: 10
    +13
    Maybe the militias are dressed like specialists, but alas, they are not. After watching the video about the death of our correspondents, it is clear that not only in essence our military are not there, but also consultants. The block post is completely in the palm of your hand, shot not once ... damn it all at full height as at home .. I'm in shock .. it's not the militias but the targets ... Regarding our reporters ... you need to learn the profession of a MILITARY REPORTER .. .a do not send for slaughter essentially plankton ... who does not understand how to behave in the military zone at all .. and who thinks that a sticker with a TV adhesive will save him ..
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 09: 21
      +5
      After watching the video about the death of our correspondents, it is clear that not only in essence are there no our military, but also consultants. The block post is completely at a glance, not one-shot. Adjusted ... damn everything in full growth just like at home .. I'm in shock .. these are not the militiamen, but targets


      Dmitry, this block post, was placed on a fast hand, because on the eve, maybe even less than a day, the militia lost a well-fortified block post in the village of Happiness. After all, this is the onslaught of the regular army, and not the battaloin Lyashka on trucks, as in Mariupol. There is no equipment in the case. There hammer from artillery and from tanks specifically. Put on your gear Warrior and hold a position under the blows of tanks and artillery in indirect visibility, the terrain allows. In the cities, while there are no fights. Strong hold position?
      1. Dave36
        Dave36 18 June 2014 09: 29
        +1
        Damn .. not less .. why the day and to the fullest ??? Certainly, it is a pity of people .. there are no words ... and when they were examined with binoculars they killed mortar ...
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 09: 46
          +3
          Quote: Dave36
          Damn .. not less .. why the day and to the fullest ??? Certainly, it is a pity of people .. there are no words ... and when they were examined with binoculars they killed mortar ...


          Civilians ... and a long sweep area, you will not pass much in half-sitting, you will get tired ... Perhaps there was a lull, and relative confidence in security ... Anything can happen.
  19. Wanderer H7
    Wanderer H7 18 June 2014 09: 12
    +11
    "... Probably the" red line "for Moscow will be the storming of the Novorossiysk capitals, Luhansk and Donetsk"
    Yes what nah a red line already ??? !!!! - is this after the deaths of hundreds of civilians, the destruction of entire cities, the use of phosphorus bombs, heavy artillery bombing !? Are you blind, the authors insanely defending the treacherous silence of the Kremlin parasites ?! They are preoccupied only with their own interests and are exempt from exaggeration ... Although it is clear that even before the final defeat of Novorossia as a result of a muddy drain, the junta will attack the Crimea and arrange provocations in the border regions of the Russian Federation. Sobsno already suit - armored personnel carriers, planes are already entering our territory with might and main, bullets in the walls of private houses, unexploded ordnance ... And bacchanalia at the embassy in Kiev and consulates in Odessa and Kharkov ?! And even the ambassador was not recalled. No intelligible reaction is the shameful mooing of third parties of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and no more. THOSE WHO SAY THAT THEY WERE NOT LEAKED - Well, finally give reasonable arguments to the contrary !!!!! What nah a red line, for any self-respecting nuclear power all this is FORMOST UNACCEPTABLE !!! So you can imagine that the USA or China or even Great Britain and France behave so shamefully ???
    1. Dave36
      Dave36 18 June 2014 09: 16
      +8
      Everything on the topic ... man ... I am also in shock, as we did not withdraw the deep mission from Dill ...
    2. andrewvlg
      andrewvlg 18 June 2014 20: 30
      0
      You have completely lost your head. Speak for yourself (on Radio Liberty, Voice of America) - there they are. But dare not speak for me and for millions of Russians, okay? This is your hysteria and only yours!
      If we talk about the arguments, then the maximum plan is this: the rebels in the DPR and LPR, as well as those who joined them in other parts of Ukraine must take power on their own (without waiting for the Russian troops to enter).
      And do not say that they do not have tanks and so on. They are opposed by an army of strength (together with the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Nezavisimaya Gazeta) of a force of 30 thousand. Yes, if 150 thousand insurgents rise, they will tear Natsik with an overwhelming proportion in numbers over ZSU with small arms.
      And when 30 thousand militias fight against 4 thousand, then 500 tanks will not help them win. Is not it so?
  20. Immelman
    Immelman 18 June 2014 09: 14
    +3
    The sad future is drawn to Dobass ...
    1. Dave36
      Dave36 18 June 2014 09: 17
      +2
      The sad future of all of Dill ...
    2. Turkestan
      Turkestan 18 June 2014 10: 51
      +2
      They will talk with Dombas only when she has a POWERFUL army capable of defeating any enemy
      1. Salamander
        Salamander 18 June 2014 11: 12
        0
        Quote: Turkestan
        They will talk with Dombas only when she has a POWERFUL army capable of defeating any enemy

        Fantasy ????
  21. shishakova
    shishakova 18 June 2014 09: 16
    +3
    I would like to believe that the red line will be the actions of Kiev to close the border. Our troops are again near the border with Ukraine.
  22. Strong point
    Strong point 18 June 2014 09: 17
    +2
    Quote: N7 Wanderer
    THOSE WHO SAY THAT THEY WERE NOT LEAKED - Well, finally give reasonable arguments to the contrary !!!!! What nah a red line, for any self-respecting nuclear power all this is FORMOST UNACCEPTABLE !!! So you can imagine that the USA or China or even Great Britain and France behave so shamefully ???

    I agree - here we will either wash ourselves with shit for the little time remaining in reserve, or "something more extravagant" awaits us. In general, everything is very alarming.
  23. INFOLegioner
    INFOLegioner 18 June 2014 09: 30
    +2
    juntas only build up pressure and pull back all the heavy weapons that they have. no armistice and federalization has been said, and they don’t even have such thoughts. apparently they were serious about killing, for the militia also did not surrender and would not surrender. all this cannot end in anything good, and you should probably expect very cruel and bloody events unfortunately. and there is no reason for optimism yet ...
  24. erased
    erased 18 June 2014 09: 32
    +5
    Once again, guesses, versions, conjectures, rumors, opinions, hopes, emotions ...
    The stream of general articles on the topic, but about nothing, is growing like a snowball. We chew and chew, we wash the media with water. Slightly sick.
  25. Gray 43
    Gray 43 18 June 2014 09: 39
    +7
    In any case, Russia will be to blame for all Ukrainian problems, no matter whether it supports Novorossiya or not, it is enough to remember the gas Santa Barbara - how they stood their ground and did not want to talk about anything, even the deputy. The owner (Europe) is not a decree, however, they did not particularly insist on the obvious. The defeat of New Russia will be a big fly in the ointment in a barrel of Crimean honey. Everyone understands perfectly well that the staff need a war between Ukraine and Russia like air in order to fish in troubled waters, to regain control of the (sooooo slow) EU, which is beginning to see clearly, which may one day become history. The shooters turned out to be not as simple as it seemed at first, his fighters do not fight in numbers, but with skill and ingenuity, but they are opposed not only by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also by mercenaries with extensive combat experience with excellent equipment.
  26. Prometey
    Prometey 18 June 2014 09: 42
    +7
    Every day I wait for information in the media about Putin's tough demand for Kiev to cease fire and begin the withdrawal of troops from the southeast, supported by demonstration flights with "inadvertent" violation of Ukrainian airspace by Russian front-line bombers. But alas ...
    Now Russia seems even more limp than in the early 90s. For that lack of will Russia paid Grozny-95, and then Dagestan at 99. What is Moscow ready to pay for its lack of will now? Simferopol, Belgorod?
    1. smile
      smile 18 June 2014 16: 51
      +3
      Prometey
      Well, yes .... after we entered a tough clinch with the West, we began to directly counteract, disrupting their plans for peace, gouging the Georgian revenge-seekers, frustrated the operation in Syria, immediately took Crimea without fear of consequences, and now we are crushing the West by about Ukraine (bringing the situation to the point that Europe itself will not allow them to steal gas, and thereby dooming it to complete collapse), we help New Russia, although not very explicitly (and we’ll do it right) .... And after that you declare to the blue eye that our policy is limp like in the nineties?

      Surround, Dear. I really respect you, but now you have something with eyesight ... or the nerves are naughty .... But the nerves are very hindering to calmly assess the situation ....
  27. Klim podkova
    Klim podkova 18 June 2014 09: 56
    +8
    Since Ukrainian armored personnel carriers and airplanes have a habit of driving in / flying into the territory of the Russian Federation, it would be logical to deploy military contingent on the border in order to ensure the inviolability of state borders.

    Well, if suddenly someone gets lost or accidentally flies in, the intruder must be destroyed on the spot. To flare up the world scandal at the level of hysteria (and by the way, why hasn't it been done so far? There were reasons!), And to present Ukraine as an "aggressor posing a direct threat to Russia."

    Then an interesting scheme of media work is being built both on the Russian and the international field: Donbas militias essentially protect Russia from the bloodthirsty aggressor-Ukraine and in this situation help them is completely justified.
  28. sabakina
    sabakina 18 June 2014 09: 56
    +7
    "A ceasefire can be achieved by the end of this week."
    Once, somewhere, I already heard this phrase ... Only I have de javu?

    About the tanks that can fly into our territory ...
    The border is strengthened (I hope), additional troops go to the border (according to the video). Let them fly. If you don’t give up and open fire, they will destroy it. (And you want to believe it strongly).
  29. Dejavu
    Dejavu 18 June 2014 09: 58
    +5
    It will be funny if Putin really implements his plan and in a week or two kicks out the junta from the southeast. I would then be happy to link this topic so that the alarmists, who are now yelling "Putin sludge" the South-East, wash and wipe themselves off. You already got really sick of whining. When Putin returned Crimea, you were ready to kiss his ass and forgive Serdyuk. And now, when the truly difficult times have come, requiring the support of your head, you whine and drool. Fucking couch troops, always for those who win. The jellies are unfinished, neither core nor faith. Ugh.
    1. smile
      smile 18 June 2014 17: 00
      +2
      Dejavu
      hi
      I agree. They always yell - then we leaked Syria, then Crimea ... a squeal is ... and they never yell about the fact that they were wrong .. or they were lying. Well, they have such a breed, what can you do. :))) And as soon as something does not work out for us, something does not work out right away, the cry immediately rises - Where are our polymers !!! :)))
      But, unfortunately, the matter cannot be limited to weeks - too large a scale, plus millions of Ukrainians duped by independent propaganda .... this is a fairly quick matter, especially since the whole of the South-East, and not only the two republics of New Russia, needs to be liberated.
  30. Per se.
    Per se. 18 June 2014 10: 01
    0
    "A ceasefire can be achieved by the end of this week," said President Poroshenko, that is, the Nazis want to complete this operation and take the militias into the ring until Sunday 22 June. What symbolism, the war with the new fascists is again connected with this date!
    It is sad that the lines from the old song may have a new meaning in the fight against Nazism. However, the Nazis must be beaten.
    June twenty-second
    At exactly four o’clock
    Kiev was bombed, they announced to us
    That war began.
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 18 June 2014 10: 46
      -2
      Quote: Per se.
      June twenty-second
      At exactly four o’clock
      Kiev was bombed, they announced to us
      That war began.


      What did you mean? Who will bomb Kiev today, the aggressor?
  31. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 18 June 2014 10: 05
    +7
    "... the storming of the Novorossiysk capitals will become the" red line "for Moscow ..."


    It looks like there is more than one feature, there is already some kind of barcode.
  32. vezunchik
    vezunchik 18 June 2014 10: 14
    +4
    Military action in Ukraine resonated in the Saratov region. In the battles near Lugansk, a resident of our region, Igor Efimov, died. The ataman of the Balashov stanitsa Cossacks Nikolay Podkorytov told about this KP.
    The 49-year-old Balashovets went to the besieged Ukrainian city among 15 local volunteers to help the Lugansk militia. Unfortunately, not everyone was destined to return home to the Saratov region. On June 16, during the fighting, a 49-year-old balashovets Igor Efimov was seriously wounded in the head. At 20.00 he died on the operating table.
    Igor Efimov went to Lugansk from Balashov
    Igor Efimov went to Lugansk from Balashov
    Photo: social networks
    -Information about the wound came to Balashov when Igor was still alive. A little later, we learned that the volunteer died, ”Nikolai Podkorytov told the Komsomol correspondent.
  33. vezunchik
    vezunchik 18 June 2014 10: 18
    +2
    It’s necessary to brainwash the amers, so that the Russians die for the interests of Bendera!


    Today, on June 17, fighters of the 79th separate airmobile brigade from Nikolaev, performing a combat mission in the east of Ukraine, were ambushed by militias, as a result of which nine paratroopers were seriously wounded.

    About it, being in Vradiyevka, during personal reception of citizens the chairman of the Nikolaev regional state administration Nikolay Romanchuk reported, - the correspondent NikVestey transfers.

    As Wings Phoenix activist, who helps soldiers of the 79th Brigade, said on his Facebook page, the militia killed four paratrooper armored personnel carriers. The exact number of wounded soldiers is unknown.

    - We have a fight, four armored personnel carriers were knocked out. We have wounded again. Thank God there are no dead people, ”the activist wrote.
    We will note that tomorrow in Voznesensk farewell will take place with a resident of the Nikolaev region who died while completing a combat mission in an anti-terrorist operation in eastern Ukraine.

    As you know, on June 12, the paratroopers, who serve as part of the 79th separate airmobile brigade, carrying out the combat mission of neutralizing the militia checkpoint, were ambushed by the enemy, significantly exceeding their forces, as a result of which they had to retreat, getting out of the cordon. According to the results of the battle, three paratroopers of the 79th brigade died, among which - two nikolayevets.

    We will remind, on June 15 hundreds of nikolayevets came to say goodbye to the sergeant of a platoon of an airmobile and airborne battalion of the 79th Nikolaev separate airmobile brigade of the High mobile airborne forces of Armed forces of Ukraine Sergey Tatarinov.

    It is known that on Wednesday, June 18, in Voznesensk, one of our fellow countrymen, Vladimir Grechaniy, who died on June 14 as a result of terrorists firing at a car of State Border Guard officers in Mariupol, will be buried.

    News from the Ukrainian media
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 18 June 2014 10: 49
      +4
      Quote: vezunchik
      resulting in nine paratroopers seriously injured


      I do not understand, the militias have non-lethal weapons in their arsenal - no matter how you read the dill media, they only have one wounded and mountains of corpses from the militias.
  34. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 18 June 2014 10: 18
    +6
    While the militias are holding on, another Slavau Ukrainian tank was captured yesterday:


    However, the captured soldiers are still given to their parents:

    Three reservists, according to them called up to the National Guard (and why not in the usual units?! ..), deserted to the territory of the Russian Federation. Today, Russia-24 began to twist the video with this trinity. Deserters assure that English-speaking instructors work in the National Guard. Taki PMCs? ..
  35. Victor Kamenev
    18 June 2014 10: 20
    +2
    From "Chapaev": "Let them come closer ..."
  36. Avis24
    Avis24 18 June 2014 10: 22
    -1
    For the sake of general development, read about the war of Russia with the Chukchi. I’ll say frankly how the revelation for me was that Russia did not win. And there are also no mountains, no forests, no weapons. Then just persuaded peacefully.
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 18 June 2014 20: 17
      0
      Who is the minus? It's true! Russia did not win, but did not lose. Cossacks suffered huge losses, poisoning the arrow, the ability to disguise themselves and the courage of the Chukchi, made fighting with them bloody. By the way, all the peoples of the Far North were panicky afraid of the Chukchi.
  37. rotor
    rotor 18 June 2014 10: 27
    +2
    We don’t need to bring in troops either, we just need to urgently supply heavy weapons to the militias.
    1. rotor
      rotor 18 June 2014 10: 46
      +2
      And it is possible to establish a no-fly zone over New Russia and left-bank Ukraine.

      The deployment of troops is extremely undesirable, therefore, it is not necessary to bring the situation to this.
  38. Noctis
    Noctis 18 June 2014 10: 32
    +1

    Suppose the junta “closes” the border, but then the situation will return to its original state: it will simply take revenge. “A cease-fire can be reached by the end of this week,” said President Poroshenko, that is, the Nazis want to complete this operation and take the militia to the ring until Sunday 22 June. What symbolism, war with new fascists is again connected with this date!

    but let’s stop us from closing the border .... but how can humanitarian corridors go back and forth .... here are refugees, there are food, medicine. people. ammunition ... I have a vested interest .... to cross hotstsa
  39. Klim podkova
    Klim podkova 18 June 2014 10: 37
    +5
    If now another center of separatism breaks out in Ukraine (the Hungarians, Poles, Romanians, Rusyns living in the Ruin move), there will be nothing to extinguish, since all combat-ready units are fighting in the east. There will be no better opportunity to reclaim the "ancestral territories"

    This does not mean at all that Poland, Romania and Hungary should declare territorial claims, but "warm up" their compatriots - yes!

    Having declared their claims for independence along with Novorossia, the national outskirts of Ukraine have very good chances to get a ticket to future independence (Zakarpattia Rus) or to reunite with their Motherland.
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    3. brisk
      brisk 18 June 2014 14: 18
      0
      Quote: Klim Podkova
      Klim Podkova Today, 10:37
      If now another center of separatism breaks out in Ukraine (the Hungarians, Poles, Romanians, Rusyns living in the Ruin move), there will be nothing to extinguish, since all combat-ready units are fighting in the east. There will be no better opportunity to reclaim the "ancestral territories"

      This does not mean at all that Poland, Romania and Hungary should declare territorial claims, but "warm up" their compatriots - yes!

      Having declared their claims for independence along with Novorossia, the national outskirts of Ukraine have very good chances to get a ticket to future independence (Zakarpattia Rus) or to reunite with their Motherland.


      Countries, members of the EU and NATO, by definition, have no territorial claims not only to each other, but also to all other countries, subjects of international law. Geyropeytsy, what can I say. So they will not heat up, not profitable, sir. Poland even earlier spoke out quite clearly and unequivocally on this subject. Magyars are not also _D_Ioten. They will advise you to be loyal citizens of your country. Hominy and want and pricks, but who will allow the gypsies.
      1. Klim podkova
        Klim podkova 18 June 2014 14: 59
        0
        Europe has repeatedly demonstrated that if you can not, but really want to - it means you can.
  40. Bigfoot_Sev
    Bigfoot_Sev 18 June 2014 10: 37
    +2
    already 200 tanks?
    two or three weeks ago, on a military review, I read that there were several dozen tanks on the move. such as the affairs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they will soon end. and here already 200. it's like.

    the media and journalists are already enraged. any. strangers, ours, yours, theirs. "they blow an elephant out of a fly and sell ivory crafts" (c). only emotions. more emotion. even more emotions. in the end there will be cash and frustration for media consumers. but where it will go is a big question.

    ps for every fireman. I only voiced doubts about the veracity of factology in the article.
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 18 June 2014 20: 19
      0
      Kharkiv tank factory is mothballed. Ukraine has a safety margin from Soviet times. But how much gas is enough?
  41. niklaus
    niklaus 18 June 2014 10: 39
    +4
    What a red line, all borders are broken, either Putin is responsible for his words, we help people, or Putin is waiting for the fate of Gaddafi, Milosevic. And the reasons why He is silent today do not bother anyone. Death strides across RUSSIA.
  42. Vend
    Vend 18 June 2014 10: 44
    +1
    By the end of the year, it will all be over. And not a victory for the right sector and the United States. And the victory of Russia and New Russia.
    1. Salamander
      Salamander 18 June 2014 11: 18
      +2
      I wonder how your confidence and optimism are reinforced. request
  43. MSA
    MSA 18 June 2014 10: 50
    +4
    Former US ambassador to Moscow Matlock said at a conference that Washington should take a step back. We will see

    We’ll be full, but I don’t remember something when the last time Fashington voluntarily took a step back.
  44. Cat
    Cat 18 June 2014 10: 52
    0
    Let's say the junta closes the border ...

    the junta will not close the border. Even if all the "terrorist separatists" do not approach the border closer than 20 km, and Russia withdraws its troops somewhere in Transbaikalia, all the same, the Ukrainian army together with the National Guard will not be able to "close" the border.
    The reason is as simple as 5 kopecks: when the border is closed, the Kiev government loses its main trump card - Russian-Chechen mercenaries, of whom the entire Luhansk-Donetsk militia is composed. As long as there are mercenaries - everyone is fine and everyone is happy, they will suddenly disappear - how then can we motivate our own soldiers, who are not eager to defend "territorial integrity" anyway? Che in the press to write, how to appeal to foreign countries? Bullshit, in general, will work out.
    So there will be screams, there will be statements from the stands, there will be no closed border.
    1. Black
      Black 18 June 2014 12: 04
      +3
      Quote: Cat
      there will be no closed border.


      Do you think that the junta is fighting for the sake of "shouting"? The person who drew the first red line thought so, hoped that he would "growl" and everything would go away by itself.
      It is necessary to remove the veil from the eyes! We must finally understand that the ukroarmia, albeit at a minimum, has organized itself, and taking into account the fact that the pin.dos have untied its hands, they will close the border soon.
      1. Cat
        Cat 18 June 2014 12: 21
        0
        Quote: Chen
        We must finally understand that the Ukrainian army, albeit at a minimum, has organized itself, and given the fact that the Pindocs have untied their hands, they will close the border soon.

        Pindos untied the hands of the government, but not the army. Rather, the army's hands are also untied, but the army waves them without much fanaticism. In fact, all sorts of "legal bandit formations" - "Donbass", "Azov" and so on, are at war with the militias, assembled from ideological, but really incapable of "Svidomites". Gradually, they will, of course, gain experience - but they will have to pay for it with losses, which can be replenished even now, but what will happen when the "Chechen-Russian" threat disappears?
  45. rotor
    rotor 18 June 2014 11: 00
    0
    controlled army threw into battle up to 200 tanks


    Where did 200 tanks come from, if there were 160 recently.
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  47. Noctis
    Noctis 18 June 2014 11: 07
    0
    Quote: Cat
    Bullshit, in general, will work.
    So there will be screams, there will be statements from the stands, there will be no closed border.

    I hope they wait until July. I’ll finish things, then let them close
  48. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 June 2014 11: 37
    +1
    It’s hard for the guys there. It is tougher to conduct a foreign policy in relation to the new government of Ukraine.
  49. Leshka
    Leshka 18 June 2014 11: 42
    +2
    whatever they say, but they need help
  50. Free Island
    Free Island 18 June 2014 11: 50
    +4
    Probably, the “red line” for Moscow will be the assault on the Novorossiysk capitals ... well, the author, like many of us, once again amuse ourselves with some sort of hope.
    before that, the beginning of a fire in civilians was a red line. Silence. Then everyone started talking that Putin was waiting for the militia to rise, whether the people would rise. Then they waited for the referendum, silence. Then they waited for a hundred killed, then a thousand, then the red line was the use of CITIES and aircraft, and STILL SILENCE! there is not a red line, do not entertain yourself.