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Kalashnikov Concern presented three new models of civilian weapons

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Izhevsk concern Kalashnikov, part of the Rostec state corporation, takes part in the EUROSATORY 2014 International Military Exhibition, which is being held in Paris. The exhibition runs from June 16 to 20. Traditionally, the venue of this exhibition is the exhibition center Paris Nord Villepinte. This year the Russian weapons The concern has stockpiled its latest products for Paris by presenting immediately 3 samples of civilian small arms.


At the exhibition in France, Kalashnikov also presented its most famous models of military weapons - Kalashnikov assault rifles in all available calibers, the Vityaz-SN submachine gun, the Dragunov sniper rifles of the SVD and SVDS, the new SV-98 and SV- sniper rifles The 99, the under-barrel grenade launcher GP-34, the 18,5 KSK combat shotgun and even full-fledged guided artillery armament complexes are “smart” shells “Kitol-2M” and “Krasnopol”.

Also at the exhibition EUROSATORY 2014 "Kalashnikov" brought a modernized version of the pistol Yarygin caliber 9x19 mm, as well as a small-sized self-loading pistol PSM production Izhevsk Mechanical Plant. They brought the legendary PM, which has undergone modernization. In Paris, the PM with stores of increased capacity - on 10 and 12 cartridges. At the same time, most of the serial samples of the Kalashnikov concern acquired a new look. At the Paris exhibition, the Russian manufacturer of small arms is going to demonstrate the possibilities of increasing the functionality of standard submachine guns and machine guns with the help of various mounted devices and devices, modern sights.


Saiga MK107

In addition, the concern immediately introduced 3 news, designed for the civilian market of small arms. We are talking about the Saiga MK107 carbine, Saiga-12С EXP-01-030 and Saiga-12 shotguns. 340 12 caliber, Saiga-9 carbine. In addition, the Kalashnikov brought to France a new sports rifle, the Record-338, and other samples of its products. The Kalashnikov Concern considers the exhibition, which is now taking place in Paris, one of the most successful platforms for displaying its products and holding negotiations with business partners and potential buyers. Specialists of the concern expect to hold a series of business meetings with representatives of European countries, countries of the Middle East, South and Southeast Asia and North Africa.

All three brand new models of civilian small arms were developed on the basis of existing models of military automatic weapons, the adviser to the general director of the Kalashnikov concern, Andrei Kirisenko, told reporters about this.

Thus, the Saiga-MK107 carbine was developed based on a promising model of the AK-107 submachine gun. This carbine borrowed from its combat counterpart a system of balanced automation, which makes it possible to achieve an increase in the accuracy of fire immediately 1,5 times compared to other Russian and foreign analogs of small arms, presented in this class. At the same time, the reliability indicators of the Saiga-MK107 carbine remained at the same very high level, noted Kirisenko. According to him, a number of prototypes of the new carbine have already been released, including under the common foreign cartridge .223 Remington ("Remington"). In addition, it is also planned to create versions of the Saiga-MK107 carbine under the Russian 5,45x39mm and 7,62x39mm caliber cartridges, as well as under the NATO ammunition 7,6251mm.


Saiga-9

Andrei Kirisenko also noted that the Saiga-9 carbine is based on another Russian development - the Vityaz-SN submachine gun, which is a novelty for both the Russian and foreign markets. Currently, the Kalashnikov concern is working to adapt the carbine under the 9x19 mm Parabellum cartridge common in Europe. Also in the very near future it is planned to develop a carbine "Saiga-9" and under the domestic pistol cartridge 9x18 mm, as well as a new ammunition 9x21 mm. This development of Izhevsk gunsmiths has a high level of reliability, and a very high level of similarity of a carbine with real-life models of military weapons may attract increased attention of Russian and foreign buyers, notes Andrey Kirisenko.

If we talk about the Saiga-12 hunting rifle of the 340 model for the wide-spread caliber 12 cartridge, then, according to the adviser to the general director of the Kalashnikov concern, during its development, the requirements of special forces representatives and athletes were taken into account. According to representatives of the concern, the new gun favorably differs from the previously presented samples of the magazine's increased to 10 cartridges volume, the reinforced receiver, as well as the new quick reload system. A muzzle brake mounted on a gun can significantly reduce the recoil force. At the same time, an increased level of weapon reliability allows it to be used both by police and army units.


Saiga-12, model 340

In addition, according to Andrei Kirisenko, in the near future, the Kalashnikov concern plans to begin producing a new line of accessories for civil and military weapons. According to him, first of all, we are talking about telescopic butts, adapters for sights and forend of the Picatinny standard, various assault arms. In addition, the Kalashnikov concern seriously expects to master the production of various aiming devices. Kirisenko told reporters that negotiations are currently underway with a number of domestic companies to produce these accessories for small arms. He also does not exclude that in this issue “Kalashnikov” can establish cooperation with foreign companies. Kirisenko noted that the concern’s product samples would not be inferior to the products of the American company Magpul Industries in terms of the quality of workmanship.

Information sources:
http://www.izhmashstanko.ru/press/news/2433/#text
http://itar-tass.com/obschestvo/1259479
http://www.izvestiaur.ru/news/view/9013701.html
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  1. Mizhgan
    Mizhgan 18 June 2014 09: 08
    11
    If there are novelties, even if it is modernization, then the enterprise is functioning. Himself from Izhevsk, so the news can not but rejoice me.
    1. nekish
      nekish 18 June 2014 10: 14
      +2
      every year they promise the same thing
  2. Verdent
    Verdent 18 June 2014 09: 20
    +8
    Not special in armaments, but one thing I can say for sure, with which one can hardly argue - the trunks look impressive.
  3. bazilio
    bazilio 18 June 2014 09: 21
    10
    The fact that new samples are offered is good. Plans for the release of "body kit" and sights are excellent. The main thing is that the quality of the finished product does not disappoint. Good news !!!
  4. lukke
    lukke 18 June 2014 09: 27
    +2
    Looking forward to the stores)
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 21 June 2014 11: 03
      +3
      Quote: lukke
      Looking forward to the stores)

      in which stores? Under the Russian Arms Law, civilian weapons cannot have a magazine with more than 10 rounds of ammunition, while Saigi has 107 and 9 magazines, obviously have 30 or more magazines, and 9x19 and 5,45x39 rounds are military. so they don’t seem to be intended for us, except for the West, or the United States.
  5. Bigfoot_Sev
    Bigfoot_Sev 18 June 2014 09: 51
    +1
    again smoothbore acmoid. again for self defense. pechaaaaaal.
    I want so much that we make not only "automatic machines", but more or less classic models.
  6. mrDimkaP
    mrDimkaP 18 June 2014 09: 54
    +5
    On AK-12, as I understand it, they all scored there?
  7. Pasus
    Pasus 18 June 2014 10: 00
    +1
    Is saiga 12 really different from Boar 12 of the Hammer?
  8. Alexander.B
    Alexander.B 18 June 2014 10: 03
    12
    Let's see what the Kalashnikov concern did (and as a legal successor too):
    1) I borrowed balanced automation from the Kovrovites. Fifteen years later, he decided to release this device on the civilian market - reasonably assuming that instead of security officials, civilians did not need fire intensity and accordingly (probably) they did not take any measures to increase the survivability of the gas engine assembly.
    2) Again, we borrowed a bunch of body kits for AK, starting from the trims (which, in principle, is not particularly criticized) and ending with AR-shaped telescopic butts. At the same time, not particularly abhorring, they referred to one of the leaders of Western manufacturers.
    3) Ilyin's DTK, an expander for accepting magazines, anatomical handles, "barrels" for the bolt carrier, magazine ejectors and alternative to the classical translators of fire modes (read the safety button) they spied on from ordinary users.

    But what in the end? Reinforced receiver - this is the result of Kalashnikov?

    That is, what we see: the company does not move toward the client, but from the client - they catch the latest trends in the market and conduct effective business without the cost of research. In general, China and Russia are getting closer and closer, not only in the foreign policy arena, they are in the field, but also in the arms path.

    PS The Kovrovites, the Tula (excuse me, how is it correct?) Have worked and are working regularly for half a century and they are not appreciated, in extreme cases, impudently copying their developments. Where's the justice? Concern "Kalashnikov" looks like something COMPLETELY commercial.
    1. bunta
      bunta 18 June 2014 12: 26
      +4
      Quote: Alexander.B
      I borrowed balanced automation from the Kovrovites.


      "The AK-107 and AK-108 assault rifles were developed at the Izhevsk Machine-Building Plant (IZHMASH) on the basis of earlier samples created for participation in the Abakan competition program. The main creators of the new machines are Yu. K. Aleksandrov and VN Paranin. , and the design of these machines was based on the experimental Izhevsk automatic machines AL-4 (developed in the late 1960s), and AL-7 (later development). automatic machine AEK-971 of the Kovrov Mechanical Plant. "

      http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/ak-10710-r.html
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    3. buzzard
      buzzard 25 June 2014 04: 26
      0
      Quote: Alexander.B
      The Kovrovites, the Tula (excuse me, how is it right?) Have been working and are working regularly for half a century and they are not appreciated, in extreme cases, brazenly copying their developments. Where's the justice? Concern "Kalashnikov" looks like something COMPLETELY commercial.


      Similarly, I do not understand why the development of the Kovrovites is being delayed, although I personally think that they went the wrong way with the AEK assault rifle (balanced automation). Nevertheless, this search is being carried out (at least) work was being done. On Izhmash, a jerk, I perceived attempts with AK12 as a shift from a dead point, and ... in the end, jerk again.
      AK platform forever? Production lines do not give a step to the stotron to do?
      Sadness.
  9. Cnbv
    Cnbv 18 June 2014 10: 14
    +4
    I’ll wait and take all 3 models!
  10. seregakursk
    seregakursk 18 June 2014 10: 40
    0
    I wonder when it will appear in stores and what will be the price of the issue?
  11. bigELDAK
    bigELDAK 18 June 2014 10: 49
    11
    Look at the comments with minuses, people just do not have information about "NEW" small arms, and modernization (awnings, slats, etc.) you want to say "new" my opinion is a clean cut of the dough earned on the name of KALASHNIKOV. there is no information on how the AK-12 was tested, and the picatinny bar can be stamped under artisanal conditions. It seems that every month we will be "pleased" with all sorts of "bells and whistles." request stop
    1. terapevt
      terapevt 18 June 2014 14: 01
      +1
      Is this your little thing? Cool and sensible. Profi did a good one. Respect to him.
    2. terapevt
      terapevt 18 June 2014 14: 02
      0
      Is this your little thing? Cool and sensible. Profi did a good one. Respect to him.
      1. bigELDAK
        bigELDAK 18 June 2014 22: 10
        +1
        No "samopal" arrested, sorry for the peasant, the wrong path went (look for the picture).
    3. papa-billy
      papa-billy 24 June 2014 15: 33
      0
      Wonder Wafer - Super)))
  12. Vitynar
    Vitynar 18 June 2014 10: 50
    10
    Few Russians know that every US citizen has the ability to manufacture any weapon firing single shots, independently and without any permission from the US authorities. And there’s no need to even inform that you made a weapon at home.

    Moreover, no one forbids making machine guns and machine guns, but here it is required to pass a special test that you are not a terrorist. However, it is simple.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 18 June 2014 10: 53
      -3
      Quote: VityNar
      Few Russians knowthat every US citizen has to make any weapon, firing single bullets, independently and without any permission from the US authorities. And there is no need even to inform you that you made weapons at home.

      Moreover, no one forbids making machine guns and machine guns, but here it is required to pass a special test that you are not a terrorist. However, it is simple.


      Do we choke on saliva with envy? God bless America! We bow to this idol of freedom! Thank you for the great American, for such an important news. We are slaves to you, very grateful. We will beat Chol to the feet ... Accept gifts from us, in the form of enthusiastic smiles and admiration from your message.
      1. rereture
        rereture 18 June 2014 15: 00
        +5
        Personally, I am envious, since there are some thoughts and ideas, and just a desire to do something shooting yourself.

        I don’t understand one thing, why are we worse than the Americans?
        It seems to be not more stupid, but if you listen to Zadorny, then in general we are smarter every 500 times, but they can be "stupid", we cannot be smart.
        1. Fibrizio
          Fibrizio 18 June 2014 15: 02
          0
          I assure you that it is much easier to buy. The price of a used double-barrel shotgun is 5 thousand rubles. And you have the right to buy gunpowder and ammunition. And so it is possible to cripple, and even grab the full article.
          1. rereture
            rereture 18 June 2014 15: 18
            +2
            You can buy a single-barrel and for 1,5tr. But you still need to get a license.
            And in order to buy a rifled weapon, you need to own a smoothbore for five years.

            In short, hemorrhoids.

            And you can get crippled, and even grab the full article


            You can grab an article from us, but not in the USA (depending on the state).

            And if we go to the shooting range, the prices are biting.
            1. Fibrizio
              Fibrizio 18 June 2014 16: 04
              +1
              Now it’s not 5 years, but three years is needed, and secondly, we are not in America. In Africa, in general, there are no prohibitions. Secondly, the license is obtained quite quickly. So I don’t see the difficulty. One day doctors + school. The second precinct + throw documents. A month later, enjoy the resolution. If you approach the issue constructively, then everything is fast.
              And I shoot fine and out of the shooting range. All perfectly. And by the way I live in Moscow.
              1. rereture
                rereture 18 June 2014 16: 38
                +1
                Quote: Fibrizio
                Now it’s not 5 years, but three years is needed, and secondly, we are not in America. In Africa, in general, there are no prohibitions. Secondly, the license is obtained quite quickly. So I don’t see the difficulty. One day doctors + school. The second precinct + throw documents. A month later, enjoy the resolution. If you approach the issue constructively, then everything is fast.
                And I shoot fine and out of the shooting range. All perfectly. And by the way I live in Moscow.



                Alas, I have a permanent residence permit not in a large city, doctors in general only in the district center. Under the new rules, weapons training is required, but we do not have a single school in the area. Therefore getting hemorrhoids. And yet, a license for rifling can be obtained after 5 years of owning smoothbore weapons. And precisely if a license to carry and store weapons was obtained.

                Regarding the United States, I don’t think that our people are worse than those of the Americans, and I don’t see anything wrong with easing our weapons laws, at least with regard to reloading cartridges and buying rifled weapons.

                And I shoot fine and out of the shooting range. All perfectly.


                You have weapons, but I don’t. So the only way out is a shooting range.
                1. Fibrizio
                  Fibrizio 18 June 2014 16: 41
                  +2
                  The fundamentally incorrect data. Since 2014, it has become 3 years of owning smooth-bore firearms for hunting purposes. And I’m hearing about the license to carry and store weapons for the first time. Read the law on weapons)))
                  Do you mean scooter reloading of cartridges? It’s possible, everything is legal, and I don’t want to do rifles.
                  1. rereture
                    rereture 18 June 2014 16: 50
                    0
                    Thanks for clarifying.
      2. Free wind
        Free wind 18 June 2014 17: 39
        0
        Well, if you ......... then I do not consider myself a slave. In general, many boys of my childhood could have gotten under the article for making "arson", and for making knives.
      3. mark2
        mark2 18 June 2014 21: 21
        -2
        Every American has the right, but does not know how. And each malomalski army Russian has no right, but he can make any weapon at home)) Which of us did not make a scarecrow as a child? And who had access to small rounds of ammunition, then he also practically did combat laughing
        1. max702
          max702 20 June 2014 17: 09
          +3
          Well, about it, you don’t know how to bend, and there are a lot of working people with correctly growing hands and a pondering head, people are different, take our office plankton so they can’t hammer a nail ..
          1. buzzard
            buzzard 25 June 2014 04: 36
            0
            Quote: max702
            Well, about it, you don’t know how to bend, and there are a lot of working people with correctly growing hands and a pondering head, people are different, take our office plankton so they can’t hammer a nail ..


            Yes, lan can’t, here I am plankton, and at my mother-in-law’s in the garage I built a whatnot from old boards. Tools - saw, hammer, pencil, tape measure.
            Pretty smoothly and decently it turned out. Well, I can’t take up small arms, it almost didn’t work with metal. And you can’t do without a machine. But on a 3D printer, I would bungle, I have been working in 3D editors for a long time.)))
  13. zeleznijdorojnik
    zeleznijdorojnik 18 June 2014 11: 21
    +3
    Honestly speaking, all 3 samples are not impressive: well, they transferred the ak-107 to the civilian version, okay, the submachine gun is kind of too big and heavy — well, the AK box developed by the 9 mm caliber 70 years ago, you want a good easy pp-upgrade the same PPP-it was originally created under a small cartridge. As for the 12-gauge rifle, I don’t see anything revolutionary in it that would allow me to surpass the same boar-at the saiga 12-early releases and I can buy all these bells and whistles in the ormage — nothing radically new ...
  14. Greenhorn
    Greenhorn 18 June 2014 11: 25
    +3
    The meaning of balanced automation in a system firing single shots? She (balanced automation), like, was created to increase accuracy when firing bursts. what
    1. korol yasheriz
      korol yasheriz 18 June 2014 19: 40
      0
      You return to the sighting line faster
  15. Alexander.B
    Alexander.B 18 June 2014 11: 33
    +2
    Quote: Greenhorn
    The meaning of balanced automation in a system firing single shots? She (balanced automation), like, was created to increase accuracy when firing bursts. what

    The arising oscillations during the recoil of the shutter shift the line of fire, this system dampens the oscillations and does not lead the barrel away from the line of sight.
    1. Greenhorn
      Greenhorn 18 June 2014 13: 28
      +2
      oscillations during the shutter rollback displace the line of fire, this system dampens the oscillations and does not lead the barrel away from the aiming line

      I know that. When firing bursts or continuous, this displacement increases, leading to scatter. Therefore, they came up with extinguishing returns. But this system, as far as I know, extinguishes the return of the second and subsequent shots. That's why I had a question. Why is it needed in a self-loading carbine?
      1. papa-billy
        papa-billy 24 June 2014 15: 38
        +1
        Totally agree with you! In the course of the next publicity stunt
    2. Cat
      Cat 18 June 2014 13: 39
      +2
      Quote: Alexander.B
      The arising oscillations during the recoil of the shutter shift the line of fire, this system dampens the oscillations and does not lead the barrel away from the line of sight.

      that is, we got a bottle-shooting gun. Because on the hunt, if the mean game did not die from the first shot, it is unlikely to be standing still waiting for the second. On the contrary, it will try to fade away, so you will have to aim for a new one - either with balanced automation or without.
      1. Alexander.B
        Alexander.B 18 June 2014 13: 41
        +1
        Oh, as you wish, dear!
  16. Fibrizio
    Fibrizio 18 June 2014 12: 28
    0
    Why balanced automation for single shooting? For bump fire? This is more relevant for automatic weapons. I don’t want to say anything about smooth bore trunks, it’s for amateurs (I don’t quite understand what, but I won’t argue, let’s say shorter) But why should I cast these Castrated AKs with a rifled barrel? Their accuracy is mediocre, because they are not imprisoned under a single fire. All the guys need to do with these AKs is to abandon the stemming, and that’s all, the device is ready.

    Moreover, on saiga 12k, the mine for the store is clearly visible. And this already speaks of the acquisition of all the disadvantages of this method. The store will "walk", you cannot rely on it, and so on.
  17. tchoni
    tchoni 18 June 2014 12: 54
    0
    I want to change my 27th to saiga 12. Thanks to the author for the article.
  18. Alexander.B
    Alexander.B 18 June 2014 13: 26
    +2
    Quote: bunta
    Quote: Alexander.B
    I borrowed balanced automation from the Kovrovites.


    "The AK-107 and AK-108 assault rifles were developed at the Izhevsk Machine-Building Plant (IZHMASH) on the basis of earlier samples created for participation in the Abakan competition program. The main creators of the new machines are Yu. K. Aleksandrov and VN Paranin. , and the design of these machines was based on the experimental Izhevsk automatic machines AL-4 (developed in the late 1960s), and AL-7 (later development). automatic machine AEK-971 of the Kovrov Mechanical Plant. "

    http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/ak-10710-r.html


    Crazy for the fix.
  19. Alexander.B
    Alexander.B 18 June 2014 13: 29
    0
    Quote: Greenhorn
    oscillations during the shutter rollback displace the line of fire, this system dampens the oscillations and does not lead the barrel away from the aiming line

    I know that. When firing bursts or continuous, this displacement increases, leading to scatter. Therefore, they came up with extinguishing returns. But this system, as far as I know, extinguishes the return of the second and subsequent shots. That's why I had a question. Why is it needed in a self-loading carbine?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPkCfumrUYk
  20. terapevt
    terapevt 18 June 2014 14: 08
    +1
    The friends of the hunters and children will like it. Very brutal. Only apparently very bulky, which can interfere in a quick fight. Better AKA (although I am an adherent of SCS) is not convenient, ergonomic, smart, all that showed this husk. Not impressed.
  21. Fess
    Fess 18 June 2014 15: 05
    0
    Balanced automation is a really great idea, you need to develop
  22. Bassoon
    Bassoon 18 June 2014 15: 32
    0
    Saiga MK-107 looks decent
  23. La-5
    La-5 18 June 2014 15: 57
    0
    Ours after the Americans began to put this butt from the M-16.
    1. mark2
      mark2 18 June 2014 21: 32
      0
      Butt from the M-16 is a fashion statement for those who respect Western Design. A true professional does not matter which butt. With any butt will work)
  24. La-5
    La-5 18 June 2014 16: 01
    0
    Regular samples made on the basis of AK, of which over 60 years have accumulated order, can it be time to do something really new?
    1. mark2
      mark2 18 June 2014 21: 30
      0
      What for? The circuit diagram of AK is recognized as the best in the whole world. Reliable, reliable. Continuous modernization is the thing. To come up with something fundamentally new in manual automatic weapons is difficult. It’s like with an internal combustion engine. It can be improved indefinitely, but it will remain ICE as it was invented in the 19th century. If a chemical substance such as gunpowder is used as a charge, and a piece of metal is used as a striking element, then nothing better can be invented by Kalashnikov. The concept of gunpowder-bullet will change, there will be something new. For example, Blaster like Veselchak-U smile
  25. La-5
    La-5 18 June 2014 16: 01
    +1
    Regular samples made on the basis of AK, of which over 60 years have accumulated order, can it be time to do something really new?
  26. Alexandorf
    Alexandorf 18 June 2014 16: 12
    0
    I like)
  27. Massik
    Massik 18 June 2014 16: 54
    +3
    Saiga-9, who drove this nonsense over the hill ??? Who advised them to carry a semiautomatic machine under a pistol cartridge with the dimensions of a full-fledged gun ??? I understand the "Knight" semi-automatic, but it just a laughing stock. What is the civilian market ???))) Even in Russia you need to own a smoothbore for 5 years and you can buy at least SCS, although this is a miracle; but where is the SCS, and where is this *****.
    340I and why ??? "Hammer" is not in the concern ??? There is already a well-established production of "Vepr". Why should I fence in a garden and invent a clone ??? MK 107, well, no words. Constructor knocked out with an ax ??? This is a civilian weapon, unification is not particularly needed here. Well, is it really difficult to make AEK without automatic fire, why make a couple of ugly touches on a normal machine gun and present it as something new ??? The usual 74M with the same plastic is much more practical and aesthetically pleasing.
  28. Alexander.B
    Alexander.B 18 June 2014 17: 52
    +3
    Quote: Marssik
    Saiga-9, who drove this nonsense over the hill ??? Who advised them to carry a semiautomatic machine under a pistol cartridge with the dimensions of a full-fledged gun ??? I understand the "Knight" semi-automatic, but it just a laughing stock. What is the civilian market ???))) Even in Russia you need to own a smoothbore for 5 years and you can buy at least SCS, although this is a miracle; but where is the SCS, and where is this *****.
    340I and why ??? "Hammer" is not in the concern ??? There is already a well-established production of "Vepr". Why should I fence in a garden and invent a clone ??? MK 107, well, no words. Constructor knocked out with an ax ??? This is a civilian weapon, unification is not particularly needed here. Well, is it really difficult to make AEK without automatic fire, why make a couple of ugly touches on a normal machine gun and present it as something new ??? The usual 74M with the same plastic is much more practical and aesthetically pleasing.


    Tactical arrows everywhere wink , they probably have a strap on their underpants. Suddenly in the dark it is necessary to cast, but here the tactical flashlight helped!
  29. the47th
    the47th 18 June 2014 19: 47
    0
    The muzzle brake on the 340th "Saiga" is a thing!
    1. Massik
      Massik 18 June 2014 19: 52
      0
      This "thing" has been produced at Hammer for 5-6 years
      1. the47th
        the47th 19 June 2014 11: 21
        0
        In "Boar" he is not so brutal. And this one seems to have been removed from the 6S8 or MC-558.
  30. Igor_kh
    Igor_kh 18 June 2014 20: 13
    +1
    Why such a knob on the trunk?
  31. bunta
    bunta 18 June 2014 20: 57
    +3
    "On June 18, 1949, by order of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 2611-1033, a 7,62 mm Kalashnikov assault rifle, model 1947, was adopted by the Soviet Army. Mass production of AK was established at the Izhevsk Machine-Building Plant."


    65 years. Happy Birthday!
  32. Carlos
    Carlos 18 June 2014 23: 51
    0
    Good news! I own Saiga-20K. It is simple and reliable like the good old AKM.
  33. Pazifist87
    Pazifist87 21 June 2014 02: 35
    0
    I was interested in Saiga-9, it does not have the ability to conduct automatic fire, then why is it needed? Maybe I'm wrong, but a pistol cartridge is not effective for hunting. If the PP is needed for close combat in confined confined spaces, then a self-loading weapon should be no more effective than a pistol in the same conditions. It turns out such a self-loading "Knight" only for collectors?
    1. dEADj
      dEADj 2 July 2014 13: 54
      0
      The carbine is civilian, therefore there is no automatic fire, for it is prohibited by law. Yes, such carbines are officially positioned not for hunting, but for simple shooting by fans, as well as for self-defense at home. Although, in principle, you can easily lay down a moose with 9 mm shots from 100 meters, the main thing is that the arms would grow from the desired organ (for example, shoulders). Yes, and how much I go hunting I have never singled out so that someone would shoot half a kilometer at the beast. Maybe I'm the only one?
  34. papa-billy
    papa-billy 24 June 2014 15: 43
    0
    A carbine under a pistol cartridge - this is nonsense! Is it only for shooting in the garden
  35. dEADj
    dEADj 2 July 2014 14: 00
    0
    To whom it is, but I think that balanced mechanics is a hat for the army. What resource will the weapon have if it constantly hammers the ballasting mechanism on it? What about the price?
    For special units and special operations, weapons will be demanded of course.
  36. Leader
    Leader 6 August 2014 10: 02
    0
    Another "masterpiece" from the menager.
    Has no prospect. In a year we will admire another "masterpiece".
    Which of the previous innovations have brought profit and fame, and are issued in thousands of copies?
    It would be better to hone the production of AK-74 ...
  37. Dinko
    Dinko 3 November 2014 15: 29
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    Looking forward to the stores)

    in which stores? Under the Russian Arms Law, civilian weapons cannot have a magazine with more than 10 rounds of ammunition, while Saigi has 107 and 9 magazines, obviously have 30 or more magazines, and 9x19 and 5,45x39 rounds are military. so they don’t seem to be intended for us, except for the West, or the United States.

    My dear, there are shops for such weapons called pseudo-thirty. In appearance they are like full-sized 30 charging versions but inside there is a limiter due to which more than 10 rounds are not included in it! Due to the fact that our officers installed on the 107 neck of the store it is unlikely to be convenient set the store shorty for 10 rounds.