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Russia versus USA - war is still ahead

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How the solemn events on the occasion of the 70 anniversary of the landing of the Allies in Normandy, whether the meeting between Putin and Obama took place, many already know themselves. We will say only one thing - the events were held in full accordance with the plan, and a full-fledged meeting of the heads of the two leading states of the world, short of “Putin did talk with Obama” after breakfast, did not take place. And in general, this meeting did not bring about any special changes in the geopolitical picture of the world that was created.

Russia versus USA - war is still ahead


But let's leave this meeting aside and focus on Putin’s latest expression. The meaning of his statement is generally reduced to the following: But can Russia resist the US military machine? Although so far, thank God, the full-scale war does not smell, but it was close recently at the height of the events in Ukraine, and this can happen again, given the aggressive tone of Russian foreign policy, at any time. Therefore, the balance of power of these powers today interests many. Just like the questions: Is there a real danger of a military confrontation between Russia and the United States? in case of armed conflict, which forces will oppose each other?

According to the Athena Group’s Deputy Director of the Center for Military Strategic Studies of the Spanish Major-General Jesus Argumos Pyla, the Russian army is currently undergoing a process of modernization and rearmament, so it’s hard to say what parameters the armed forces will be at the end of military reform. The complexes of Topol-M intercontinental missiles at a military parade in Moscow showed the current level of equipment of the Russian army.

Yes, Putin has once again demonstrated to the West that Russia is a powerful nuclear power. At the same time, according to American military experts, in terms of the level of development of the latest technological developments of conventional weapons, Russia lags significantly behind the United States. Undoubtedly, Topol-M is a revolutionary missile, but it may have problems when they want to intercept it. "Topol-M" with insufficient combat capabilities and more than a modest deployment scale can in no way become a symmetrical response to a promising multi-US missile defense system. In other words, no technique, no matter how perfect it is, can withstand the powerful system that the United States is promoting to the very borders of Russia.



And yet the possibility of the development of a large-scale military conflict in connection with the crisis in Ukraine or in any other part of the world exists. And an attempt to explain the possible scenario of its development, it seems, may interest the reader.

Thus, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), in 2013 Russia allocated 68,2 billion dollars to defense, while US military spending exceeded 600 billion dollars. Obviously, the level of military spending of the two countries is incomparable. The United States, being the leading world economic power, can afford defense spending that Russia cannot afford. To date, there is no doubt that the United States from a geostrategic point of view has armed forces that are superior to the Russian army. First of all, it concerns the possibility of fast moving mobile units over a distance of more than 4 thousands of kilometers.

Russia can carry out this kind of operation with only a limited military contingent, while the United States has virtually unlimited possibilities. So, by the way, consider both General Argumosa and other experts.

In addition, the United States in the near future intends to adopt the latest development of American aircraft designers, the fifth-generation fighter F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which by its flight performance far exceeds the Russian aircraft in service.



In general, today the following correlation of forces and means in the US and Russian armed forces has developed: the number of military personnel in the USA is 1 million 492 thousand, in Russia - 845 thousand; strategic aircraft aviationcapable of carrying on board a nuclear weapon: USA - 154, Russia - 141; nuclear submarines: USA - 140, Russia −110; missile systems capable of carrying nuclear warheads: USA - 450, Russia - 356; artillery guns: USA - 7429, Russia - 5837.

As you can see, in terms of the number of aircraft and technical equipment, Americans are also superior to the Russians. In quantitative terms, this difference is sometimes insignificant, but many argue that, in a qualitative sense, the United States is also ahead of Russia.

What about combat training of armies?

From the point of view of training, training, new technologies, efficiency and ability to quickly respond to the emergence of military threats, superiority is undoubtedly on the American side. At the same time, the Russian military surpass the Americans in their readiness for self-sacrifice and their ability to withstand the burden of military service.

Proceeding from all this, many experts believe that at present it can be stated with confidence: nuclear parity has developed between the US and Russia, so it’s almost impossible to imagine a military conflict between these two states “in its pure form”. If we take the ratio of the nuclear forces of the so-called “triad” - intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), submarine ballistic missiles (SLBMs) ​​and strategic aviation (heavy bombers), then it is approximately the same.

Thus, it is quite obvious that at present there is no threat of the current confrontation between Russia and the West becoming escalated into an armed nuclear conflict.

President Putin, who has worked in Germany for many years as an intelligence officer, understands this well. Together with Putin, other world leaders also understand this, but unlike them, Putin is also acting. Promoting his interests, he carefully calculates the invisible bar, which is really dangerous to cross. Just every time, like a good athlete, this bar goes higher and higher.



Many say that Putin has been gaining momentum as a world leader lately, while the West, Obama and Europe are lagging behind, especially after the events in Crimea. The superiority of Russian weapons now lies in the fact that the Kremlin has managed to show the West who is the boss in the post-Soviet space. Another advantage of Putin is greater decisiveness. But the current parity cannot last long. And Putin’s growing activity and the economic state of his country will surely lead to a new confrontation. It is then, perhaps, that the world leader will be determined. Ukraine did not give a clear answer to this question.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 18 June 2014 14: 32
    +14
    As I understand the meaning of the article, fear the Russians, the Americans will come and they will crush you. And by the way, where does the flag of the USSR? The symbolism of Russia has long been different.
    1. b0bi
      b0bi 18 June 2014 14: 35
      +39
      The author covertly praises the overseas army. He noted the "wonderful" F-35, and at the same time did not say a word about our T-50, etc. At the same time, he was silent about our superiority in many areas. Only the electronic warfare means of our troops are worth what, everyone already knows the fact of Donald Cook. And how he praises their missile defense:
      "Topol-M, with insufficient combat capabilities and more than modest scale of deployment, can in no way become a symmetrical response to a promising multi-position US missile defense system."
      1. Natalia
        Natalia 18 June 2014 14: 36
        +31
        the number of military personnel in the USA is 1 million 492 thousand, in Russia - 845 thousand

        I, too, have the advantage ... one Russian bear will tear 20 American sheep. Hooray patriotism? So what?
        F-35 ... and where did the F-22 go? which was all so incredibly incredible.
        Topol-M with insufficient combat capabilities and more than a modest deployment scale can in no way become a symmetrical response to the promising multi-position US missile defense system.

        It’s one thing to shoot down canvases flying along a known path, and another, the most advanced ICBM in the world that knows where and how it flies, and all this in a cloud of interference and the presence of false targets.
        1. Coffee_time
          Coffee_time 18 June 2014 14: 52
          +12
          Quote: Natalia
          the number of military personnel in the USA is 1 million 492 thousand, in Russia - 845 thousand

          I, too, have the advantage ... one Russian bear will tear 20 American sheep. Hooray patriotism? So what?
          F-35 ... and where did the F-22 go? which was all so incredibly incredible.
          Topol-M with insufficient combat capabilities and more than a modest deployment scale can in no way become a symmetrical response to the promising multi-position US missile defense system.

          It’s one thing to shoot down canvases flying along a known path, and another, the most advanced ICBM in the world that knows where and how it flies, and all this in a cloud of interference and the presence of false targets.

          And I remember, like last year, a poplar flew over Israel and the Arab countries, which I do not remember, but the panic in the separation of the warhead in the night sky was enormous.
          And by the way, with the latest scandals around the armed forces of America, with rates for neglect .... yes they are super power)))
          1. Praetorian
            Praetorian 18 June 2014 15: 22
            +8
            What did our poplar forget over Israel and the Arab countries? And where did he fly from? Give me a link please.
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 18 June 2014 17: 26
              +3
              It was poplar fluff ... smile
          2. Jurkovs
            Jurkovs 18 June 2014 16: 58
            +6
            Do not carry nonsense. Topol has only two trajectories. One training: Plisetsk - Kamchatka. And another combat, not yet tested.
            1. Harin Oleg
              Harin Oleg 18 June 2014 22: 31
              +1
              Americans spend more on weapons and upkeep of their aircraft (according to various sources, about $ 600 billion) than all other countries of the world combined, including China ($ 114 billion) and Russia ($ 68 billion). And what? Wherever they go, everywhere they mess. And they will never trample against us in the open, they know that the cord will immediately come. But with the wrong hands, completely gone crazy Ukrainians, for example, this is please!
              1. Dilshat
                Dilshat 18 June 2014 23: 52
                0
                The strong one has a reason to attack and take away there is a way to pretend to be weak, stupid, lethargic, overweight. In general, just a provocation swept.
              2. Trom
                Trom 18 June 2014 23: 59
                0
                while US military spending exceeded $ 600 billion

                ... but here I want to clarify, 600 lard for maintenance, or Russian 68 billion for development? I can be mistaken, but it is interesting, at least a percentage, for development and content? And yet, they contain bases around the world, and Russia only at home (or almost at home).
        2. matross
          matross 18 June 2014 16: 45
          +5
          Quote: Natalia
          ... where did the F-22 go? which was all so incredibly incredible.

          Duc ... did not go anywhere. Consists of adversaries in service. The world's only fifth-generation serial. True, it is no longer produced - expensive, their country is poor wink
        3. Zhekson
          Zhekson 18 June 2014 18: 12
          +3
          yes of course nonsense! And how many reservists are sitting at home ??? In America, they are unlikely to go for a shotgun. And we all go.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 18 June 2014 20: 36
            +1
            Power is in the truth. And she is behind us. And let them be at least 5 times more.
      2. Horst78
        Horst78 18 June 2014 14: 53
        +17
        Quote: b0bi
        "Topol-M" with insufficient combat capabilities and more than modest scale of deployment can in no way become a symmetrical response to a promising multi-position US missile defense system.

        Typical verbiage of a person who does not understand the situation and terminology, but who imagines himself to be an "awesome expert".
        1. Rom14
          Rom14 18 June 2014 20: 19
          +1
          Yes, he understands everything, just sculpts a cunning horror story .., forgot about the amer war? And where are their victories !?
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      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 18 June 2014 15: 18
        +3
        the main thing is not even what is the point of war, occupation, destruction, what is the task, if the second, then it will be mutual, if the first, they will be lured especially in winter
      4. AVV
        AVV 18 June 2014 15: 19
        +22
        Mammadov did not study well at school, this can be seen by name, poplars are not intended to destroy the American missile defense system in Europe, Iskander and aircraft missiles are enough for this. And the F-35 is so crude that multiple flaws are still being identified, Canada is even the best ally of the United States He doesn’t want to take these planes !!! Our Su-35 will give him a head start in many ways !!! The article is custom-made, of the Kiev tribute, because ours are not written in Ukraine, but they always write in Ukraine !!! The article is a big minus, although under the nickname Mammadov Lyashko may be hiding then everything falls into place !!!
        1. PATTIY
          PATTIY 18 June 2014 20: 13
          +1
          Quote: AVV
          The article is custom-made, Kiev

          wrote a mattress cover.
          Forgot to indicate the place of action. And this is - Ruin will be. From which even the ruins will not remain, after Russia - the United States.
          Only the steppe, as before Catherine II
        2. hrapon
          hrapon 18 June 2014 20: 31
          +1
          No need to offend the author. He just cited the statements of "General Jesus" (by the way, Jesus in Spanish is Jesus. Sounds like a cynical mockery). By the way, it was published in early April.
          The article is interesting in that it demonstrates the "sentiments" and assessments of the NATO leadership. This is how they think and this is how they evaluate us. Although, it seems to me, real estimates can still be more realistic.
          This is not the main thing.
          They see that the Russian Army is actively re-equipping and is still in the "growth vector". Until the next level of "guaranteed repulsion of aggression" is reached, there are still 5-6, or even 7-8 years. They are well aware of this.
          The Spanish general is transparently hinting whether it’s time to "stop the GDP" before it’s too late.
          In light of the frenzied provocations on the outskirts, the pulling up of the naval forces to the Baltic and Black Sea theaters, in fact, with the aim of creating a mobile missile defense echelon, the transfer of B-2 strike bombers to Europe, the re-equipment of NATO F-16s in Hollandia for the delivery of nuclear weapons, the build-up of a land group in Eastern Europe do not look harmless at all. While they do it in relatively "small portions". However, should the situation on the South-Eastern Front become aggravated in the event of our military intervention, the intensity of the transfer and build-up of the group will increase significantly.
          This is exactly the problem. For our strike against the Nazis (I have no doubt that there will be a strike, because otherwise, using the terminology of I.I. Strelkov, they will not be put to rest), we need to choose a moment when the striped ones will be seriously distracted in the Middle East and Russian-Chinese activity on the eastern borders will be increased, the factor of internal NATO centrifugal forces and contradictions in Europe, internal disagreements in the United States should be involved. The task is not very simple. The balance is extremely unstable. Success is not obvious. But there is no other way out. The strike must also take place in order to "deprive the illusions" of not only the Spanish general, but the entire mosquito, and for a long time to discourage them from the scenario of NATO aggression that is undesirable for us
          against Russia.
          The blow should be, sudden, crushing and impressive.
          There is another task - on whom to leave the outskirts after sanitation. Neither Pushilin, nor Gubarev, nor Tsarev, with all their sympathy for them, clearly reach the level of Aksenov and Temirgaliev.
      5. kolyhalovs
        kolyhalovs 18 June 2014 15: 32
        +3
        The author covertly praises


        Sucks he veiled. Clumsily praises. One-sided and thoughtless. And you +
      6. Giant thought
        Giant thought 18 June 2014 15: 36
        +1
        The article is anti-Russian in content. The author praises the army of mattresses, belongs to ours indulgently with neglect inherent in the Anglo-Saxons. And the advertised missile defense for them does not satisfy the tasks, F-35 still bring and bring to mind. Their only formidable force is strategic aviation and nuclear submarines, so they will need to be afraid in a global conflict.
      7. irina.mmm
        irina.mmm 18 June 2014 16: 05
        +2
        Just as it was in Crimea, it has already shown that direct military intervention may not be justified. The Great Patriotic War of the USSR was already far behind in military equipment, nevertheless we know the result. And do not forget that there have been no wars in America for 300 years. Patriotism is only in quantity $.
      8. MolGro
        MolGro 18 June 2014 17: 31
        +3
        Poplars have not been produced for a long time.
        Only Yars !! Although they will soon be abandoned, with the advent of the new Yars-m system in 2013, a couple of them have already been delivered.
        And so, unnoticed, we have a new generation of missile systems.
        And taking into account the fact that before the year 20 a change of yars will appear, then everything goes fine!
        Who cares about the photo below the difference between poplar and yarsem.
        Photo poplar
      9. Zhekson
        Zhekson 18 June 2014 18: 06
        0
        there was already an article here about these propelled F-35 aircraft. So, the author only wasted his time and ours and ours on worthless analytics ...
      10. Anton-sed
        Anton-sed 19 June 2014 00: 05
        0
        I agree.
        The article is "empty". About nothing.
        Volodya Putin said that the leader in the quality of armaments of the Russian Federation. And I will believe my president more than unknown American experts ...
    2. b0bi
      b0bi 18 June 2014 14: 35
      +2
      The author covertly praises the overseas army. He noted the "wonderful" F-35, and at the same time did not say a word about our T-50, etc. And how he praises their missile defense:
      "Topol-M, with insufficient combat capabilities and more than modest scale of deployment, can in no way become a symmetrical response to a promising multi-position US missile defense system."
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    3. vovan50
      vovan50 18 June 2014 15: 41
      +1
      So they are scared.
    4. _my opinion
      _my opinion 18 June 2014 16: 11
      +8
      oh, how scary - the Americans spend on weapons much more than Russia. Only the author "forgot" that the amount of money spent is completely unequal to the quality of the weapons purchased for him ...
      And the F-35 is a "drop dead cool" aircraft, but its price is also awesome, and one engine somehow does not add enthusiasm, however, the internal compartment for weapons does not shine in volume ... and many of its characteristics are inferior to those of we are in service with airplanes, I'm not talking about the T-50 ...
      The author somehow "forgot" that the use of strategic nuclear weapons will end in the destruction of all life on the planet ... and the planet itself ...
      And measured by the amount of weapons is also stupid, because it is important how skillfully this weapon is used ...
      Let's remember the assault by Suvorov Ishmael. Suvorov less troops than defenders, the fortress was rightly considered impregnable, had a rampart and a moat filled with water. And what came of it? according to the logic of the author, it is impossible to take such a fortress by the defenders of such forces. But nifiga - not only that the fortress fell, so also the number of dead defenders 5 (!!!) times exceeded the killed soldiers of Suvorov ...

      shorter article bold minus !!!
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 18 June 2014 16: 36
        +3
        Quote: _my opinion
        Only the author "forgot" that the amount of money spent is completely unequal to the quality of the weapons purchased for him ...
        Well, we will not focus on such trifles as the quality and testing of weapons? Yes, they have a powerful fleet, but it is not designed for a land power. Well and so, in between: Russia can launch missiles both from its east coast, from the north, and from the west (it’s pure to check the vaunted missile defense). However, do not forget that after this war the next one will be with batons.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 18 June 2014 17: 32
          +2
          Quote: Alexej
          . However, do not forget that after this war the next one will be with batons.

          This is another question - will the following ...
          1. lelyk72
            lelyk72 18 June 2014 17: 33
            +2
            Yes, Mr. Lieutenant General, the next will be necessary. In 100 years, or in 10 million, but it will be. And only with batons.
            1. fghjvbn13
              fghjvbn13 18 June 2014 23: 23
              0
              You can’t add a general, just a lieutenant-builder.
      2. Drednout
        Drednout 18 June 2014 16: 40
        +5
        Quote: _my opinion
        Let's remember the assault by Suvorov Ishmael.

        Good comparison. I can only add Ushakov.
        But what about the nonsense with the transfer of troops to 4000 miles - what’s this? We are not aggressors and our troops are not imprisoned for this. Yes, the Amer war machine is 10 times more expensive and 2 times larger, so what?
        In short - the article is a provocation! Fear we're suckers, etc. "-"
        1. Rostovchanin
          Rostovchanin 18 June 2014 17: 53
          0
          Yes, the Amer war machine is 10 times more expensive and 2 times larger, so what?


          Yes, it’s the same as comparing Zhiguli and Chrysler - the difference is also 10 times, but there’s only one point - both move! Comparison of budgets is not an indicator of combat effectiveness at all!
      3. lelyk72
        lelyk72 18 June 2014 17: 28
        0
        Gentlemen, let’s still not TAKE talk about the T-50 yet. Even if Russia equips all available prototypes, then ...... anyway, this is not a conversation at all.
      4. fghjvbn13
        fghjvbn13 18 June 2014 23: 19
        0
        Yes, the amount of money spent is not an indicator. On military orders, they are ripped off to the fullest! For example: we will put a toilet seat for 30 rubles, then they have it for 900 dollars. And direct theft is astronomical!
    5. Army1
      Army1 18 June 2014 16: 49
      +1
      Yes, of course nonsense. In the words of a five-year-old child, who is stronger and that will be more common sense. Article, a set of words. Especially the Spanish general made a laugh. Russia, in view of its geographical location from Europe to the Pacific, is simply foolish to call regional power. And that the United States, with its henchmen, has gone far in conventional weapons? Of course, where do we go, we are just developing a new caterpillar platform with a tank and a self-propelled gun, rebuilding systems, good aircraft that according to likely opponents like UFOs. The submarine, which, according to the former mistress of the sea, is the best in the world. Well, anyway, to the United States with their woodwaffles to us as to Shanghai. (Joke)
    6. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 18 June 2014 17: 15
      +5
      Quote: Wend
      The symbolism of Russia has long been different.

      Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - uh
      And in the article I liked the link to the Spanish major general! A great mind to see a man!
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 18 June 2014 17: 24
        +2
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        And in the article I liked the link to the Spanish major general! A great mind to see a man!
        Duck is natural! Here is someone who, if not a Spanish general, can clearly describe not only the balance of forces in aviation (Spain’s military aviation is the best in the world), but also with the knowledge to approach the issue of nuclear weapons.
      2. strannik595
        strannik595 18 June 2014 17: 25
        +1
        Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - uh
        .... and I liked the photo for the article .... Putin spins a Kenyan in Alaska: - wink Well, come on, quietly? ... well, maybe later? ....... yes, okay, come on now!? ....... uh, well, you know how to embarrass and persuade, I agree take away .... feel
    7. sgazeev
      sgazeev 18 June 2014 18: 39
      +1
      Quote: Wend
      As I understand the meaning of the article, fear the Russians, the Americans will come and they will crush you. And by the way, where does the flag of the USSR? The symbolism of Russia has long been different.

      Article by an inveterate "friend" of the USSR and Russia. am
    8. yushch
      yushch 18 June 2014 19: 29
      +1
      This is not the author praises, the Western experts praise this. We have been listening to this song for more than one hundred years, but strangely enough, it all ends with a grandiose distribution of beggars to our western “partners.” Let the clowns continue to believe that we are inferior to them in everything, this is their fatal mistake - they always underestimate us.
    9. Skif83
      Skif83 18 June 2014 21: 28
      0
      Scare frankly. And the flag of the USSR is because they have a genetic fear of the power of the Union.
      It is not entirely correct to draw analogies, but the Indians in Afghanistan compared with us have caved in specifically, in fact they do not stick their nose out of their bases, if only from the air. And this is no, no, but an indicator. Name at least one war that the Indians won over the last century ... Iraq, Libya, etc. - It’s not counted, the Arabs have always been obsolete, not warriors. In Serbia, they were afraid of the land war. Russia, of course, is not the USSR, but neither is Iraq with Libya and Syria.
      BUT! No need to relax!
  2. Vreonosec
    Vreonosec 18 June 2014 14: 35
    +7
    Thus, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), in 2013 Russia allocated $ 68,2 billion for defense, while US military spending exceeded $ 600 billion. Obviously, the level of military spending between the two countries is not comparable. The United States, as the world's leading economic power, can afford defense spending that Russia cannot afford.

    Come on! =)) under Stalin, and without funding everyone did so that there were no analogues =)! We are for 68,2 billion dollars, we will do something that the United States will not do for 999999 billion. This is how they designed pens for space and we wrote with pencils.
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 18 June 2014 14: 54
      +9
      Quote: Vreonosec
      Thus, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), in 2013 Russia allocated $ 68,2 billion for defense, while US military spending exceeded $ 600 billion. Obviously, the level of military spending between the two countries is not comparable. The United States, as the world's leading economic power, can afford defense spending that Russia cannot afford.

      Come on! =)) under Stalin, and without funding everyone did so that there were no analogues =)! We are for 68,2 billion dollars, we will do something that the United States will not do for 999999 billion. This is how they designed pens for space and we wrote with pencils.


      Do not forget that these 600 yards are not used for new weapons, but mainly for bases abroad, etc., etc.

      Fleet, for example. From which there will be little sense, and losses, incl. financial - huge

      Empty article pulled from the Internet
      1. 4elovek
        4elovek 18 June 2014 16: 10
        +1
        Quote: bulvas
        Empty article pulled from the Internet


        Plus, this is a repeat of the article already published on the VO about a month ago negative
      2. PATTIY
        PATTIY 18 June 2014 20: 56
        +1
        Quote: bulvas
        Do not forget

        Also, I want to remind you that the United States is very, very nasty * to most countries of the world.
        and cut them into stripes and stars (naturally), oh, whatever they want.
        Those who wish may not even get it.
        The United States knows and understands this well. From this such an army.
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 18 June 2014 15: 03
      +5
      Quote: Vreonosec
      under Stalin, and without funding, everything was done so that there were no analogues

      Under Stalin, of course, they did it conscientiously, but "without financing" .... you write frank nonsense. Even if we take into account that they saved using the slave power of prisoners of designers, colossal funds were still allocated.
      Stalin was brilliant, but far from ideal, for all the achievements of the national economy he cut off a bunch of Russian lives.
      1. 97110
        97110 18 June 2014 16: 07
        +4
        Quote: volot-voin
        Stalin was brilliant, but far from ideal, for all the achievements of the national economy he cut off a bunch of Russian lives.
        In-in. And Hitler cut a bunch of German lives, Roosevelt cut a bunch of American ones. I once already posted on the topic "Beetles filled the Germans with corpses." And the Germans did not manage to fill us with corpses, although they tried. And all your conjectures for me are broken on the story of my grandfather about the fact that the British made good machine guns. They fired almost continuously for more than a day, and not one jammed, albeit with air cooling. And everything related to decossackization (more Cossacks were shot on the territory of the Donskoy army than there were in all the Cossack troops of Ingushetia), collectivization, repression is not confirmed by the historical memory of my family. But the ears of the Novodvorskys stick out.
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 18 June 2014 17: 34
          0
          Quote: 97110
          ... And all your conjectures for me are broken on the story of my grandfather about the fact "that the British made good machine guns.
          That’s exactly what they did, and ours didn’t do much, we had to do everything during the war and bring it to mind, which is why we were filled up with corpses. And our modern weapons, after all, were honed back in Soviet times, and the plus is being modernized to modern realities.
    3. Praetorian
      Praetorian 18 June 2014 15: 25
      +1
      Do you know why a pencil is bad in space? The fact that it needs to be sharpened somehow, while the shavings will fly around "the whole apartment" and can get where it is not necessary. So what about the pencil bike is very controversial, if someone does not give a more detailed answer.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 18 June 2014 15: 45
        +2
        Quote: Praetorian
        Do you know why a pencil is bad in space? The fact that it needs to be sharpened somehow, while the shavings will fly around "the whole apartment" and can get where it is not necessary. So what about the pencil bike is very controversial, if someone does not give a more detailed answer.



        The answer to this question was found in IKEA:

        many small sharpened pencils, at any point where you may need


        1. Khagysh
          Khagysh 18 June 2014 16: 57
          0
          It’s easier - one pencil-styled lead is not necessary to sharpen, write until it is erased. wink
        2. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov 18 June 2014 23: 26
          0
          Quote: bulvas
          The answer to this question was found in IKEA:

          Speaking of IKEA? Do you know that they are sponsoring Right Sector? Yes, Yes !!!
          I’m no longer a walker with them, Even for free pencils!
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 18 June 2014 23: 35
            +1
            Quote: dmitriygorshkov
            Quote: bulvas
            The answer to this question was found in IKEA:

            Speaking of IKEA? Do you know that they are sponsoring Right Sector? Yes, Yes !!!
            I’m no longer a walker with them, Even for free pencils!



            I saw this information, but for some reason, it seems to me that this is someone's showdown.

            I can’t imagine that someone can exchange the Russian market for a crumbling Ukrainian one. Those who are so mistaken do not succeed.
      2. volcano
        volcano 18 June 2014 15: 49
        0
        Quote: Praetorian
        Do you know why a pencil is bad in space? The fact that it needs to be sharpened somehow, while the shavings will fly around "the whole apartment" and can get where it is not necessary. So what about the pencil bike is very controversial, if someone does not give a more detailed answer.

        A chemical is not how? :)
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 18 June 2014 15: 55
        +1
        do not tell your age, that would know what to answer
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 18 June 2014 17: 40
          0
          interesting minus.
          the main reasoned
      4. Bayonet
        Bayonet 18 June 2014 17: 38
        0
        They did not remember about the automatic pencil - he pressed and got out the stylus. And does the problem of coal dispersing in zero gravity from the barbecue not worry?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 18 June 2014 17: 58
          0
          that is why I asked a question about age, it is possible that a person simply does not remember that such were
  3. net abortion
    net abortion 18 June 2014 14: 35
    +7
    Ukrainian authorities have betrayed their people ...
    The people's liberation warrior began in the Southeast! ...


    DNR

    Snowy. The main battles yesterday and probably tonight were in the area of ​​Saur-Graves.
    By indirect messages on the network
    (according to Tymchuk, the militias turned Snezhnoye, and most likely Saur-Tomb into a real fortress,
    where civilians allegedly "forcibly" worked to build defensive structures), we can say that the junta has problems with this point. And serious.
    The infantry that burst into the ground, abundantly supplied with "heavy weapons" (according to Tymchuk), can only be knocked out by artillery. Moreover, it is clearly necessary more than a dozen trunks and it takes a long time to hammer. Moreover, the "result" is by no means guaranteed.
    Yesterday, there was a discussion on the network about the movement of the junta troops column:
    http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/1847-peremeschenie-bolshoy-kolonny-bronete
    hniki-hunty-pod-donekom-spisok-tehniki.html

    What catches the eye.
    Obviously this is not a planned move.
    This is impromptu.
    Extension of the column on its own for 500 km ???
    During the battles. I don’t think the column was heading for Donetsk. The storming of Donetsk in the current situation is complete idiocy. Most likely, the column was hastily formed from everything that is possible (and therefore in three parts) and it will "appear" in the Saur-Mogila area (presumably it can enter the battle even today). I think these are the forces that were originally planned to be used for the release of the Donetsk airport, which was to begin after the "liberation of the border" (judging by the place where the advance began).

    It seems now this operation is being canceled.

    Defense of Saur-Mogili and apparently large losses
    among drugs force the junta to make an unscheduled regrouping.

    And victory on the invaders is inevitable!
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 18 June 2014 15: 34
      0
      Quote: net abort
      it looks like this operation is now being canceled.

      Defense of Saur-Mogili and apparently large losses
      among drugs force the junta to make an unscheduled regrouping.

      Thank you, good news.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 18 June 2014 15: 41
      0
      Thanks for the good news, thank you very much.
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 18 June 2014 19: 55
      +1
      The sad thing is that the junta troops travel around New Russia as they want and when they want. soldier
  4. Aikusun
    Aikusun 18 June 2014 14: 36
    +5
    The author forgot to say that we have conscripts in the army, not mercenaries and contract soldiers, and of course the level of training is not the same as that of the professional military, but I strongly doubt that the Americans have better equipment, very much. And the ICBMs are steamed to intercept. Nonsense is almost the entire first part of the article. Therefore, a minus.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 18 June 2014 15: 01
      +6
      Comparison of the conscript and the contractor, IMHO, is not entirely correct. Much depends on motivation. Serving for money and dying for money are somewhat different things. Somewhere I came across a figure about the number of deserters from the Amer army when serious things began in Afghanistan and Iraq - the bill goes to tens of thousands. Perhaps the training of an ordinary American army is better than an ordinary Russian one (although not a fact. For a year, draftees in the SA were trained pretty well, not just infantry). But what happens when this training will need to be applied in real combat conditions is another question.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 18 June 2014 15: 22
        +2
        Quote: tolancop
        Comparison of the conscript and the contractor, IMHO, is not quite correct

        the question is not in comparison, but in reserve, war implies a decrease in manpower and the need to replace it.
  5. Stypor23
    Stypor23 18 June 2014 14: 38
    +2
    Brave Americans in Japan did not climb the broken-down at 45, but they would stick into Russia and finally be left without an army. They will enter some village, and there the men will blow up their tanks, so they will take all the Amer’s junk for their presents and drink some moonshine for a snack.
    1. ermolai
      ermolai 18 June 2014 14: 53
      +9
      Yashar Verdiev 02:57 (Moscow time)
      A reminder to all Obama, Maken and others: “Russia is a dwarf, I will put it on its knees,” said Charles 12 in the 1795th century. As a result, Sweden forever lost the status of a great power. “I will conquer backward Russia!” Said King Frederick in the middle of the 1814th century. In 1945, the Russian army entered Berlin. “Russia is a colossus with feet of clay,” Napoleon assured in the 2014th century. In XNUMX, the Russian army entered Paris. “I will conquer the USSR by the end of the year,” Hitler promised in the XNUMXth century. In XNUMX, he committed suicide when the Soviet Army entered Berlin. “Russia is a regional power,” said Barack Obama in March XNUMX. Oh well….
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 18 June 2014 14: 58
        +1
        Obama will be lynched.
        1. Sanglier
          Sanglier 18 June 2014 15: 37
          +1
          And where is Ku Klu Sklan looking?
          1. Stypor23
            Stypor23 18 June 2014 15: 51
            0
            This KKK, probably, has long been composed of African Americans and Latinos, and they are in the southern states of the white figas.
        2. kombat58
          kombat58 18 June 2014 16: 07
          0
          Better - growl!
          The great and mighty Russian language!
          It took a new word (in accordance with the situation) and here it is. And everyone understands!
          And let the Americans do the same, and so that everyone understands.
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        4. 97110
          97110 18 June 2014 16: 14
          +1
          Quote: Stypor23
          Obama will be lynched.
          The joke is not so hot, but I think many people have not heard about the ancient theme.
          Vasily Ivanovich (VI), they brought Angela Davis!
          To her wall, Petka.
          VI, are you a nerd, she’s a fighter, she was in prison!
          You, or forgot that I love to sleep on the edge!
      2. volot-voin
        volot-voin 18 June 2014 15: 40
        0
        Quote: ermolai
        I will conquer backward Russia! ”Said King Frederick in the middle of the XNUMXth century.

        He also said (and the man was not, Austria, and in the tail of the willow mane ....) that he was ready to baptize piglets with Elizabeth, so as not to fight with Russia.
  6. Michael_59
    Michael_59 18 June 2014 14: 39
    +1
    Author, you forgot to mention China.
  7. sledge
    sledge 18 June 2014 14: 39
    +2
    So what did the author want to say?
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 18 June 2014 14: 44
      +2
      end to a unipolar world
  8. VadimL
    VadimL 18 June 2014 14: 41
    +6
    Unintelligible article. The numbers are not clear where they are taken from. The analysis is slurred. The conclusions are poorly reasoned.
  9. inkass_98
    inkass_98 18 June 2014 14: 42
    +3
    The author Mammadov used traditional doping for himself and presented visions that visited him. I cannot explain these revelations otherwise. No Drugs!
  10. Antokha
    Antokha 18 June 2014 14: 42
    +3
    "" given the aggressive tone of Russian foreign policy "

    When was this aggressive tone in foreign policy?

    "In other words, no technology, no matter how perfect it is, can withstand the powerful system that the United States is pushing towards the very borders of Russia."

    This is where the aggressor is! Omers won't bother about the Perimeter system!


    "" In addition, in the near future the United States intends to adopt the latest development of American aircraft designers, the fifth generation F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which, in terms of its flight performance, is significantly superior to the Russian aircraft in service. ""


    Is the Single-engine, slow "penguin" with a bunch of flaws better than the T-50?


    "At the same time, Russian servicemen are superior to the Americans in their readiness for self-sacrifice and the ability to endure the hardships of military service."

    This is true and this is the key moment of all this reasoning !!!
    1. _my opinion
      _my opinion 18 June 2014 16: 32
      0
      [quote = Antokha] ""
      This is where the aggressor is! Omers won't bother about the Perimeter system! "quote

      yeah, and about the Iskanders (who won't leave a wet place from their "powerful system") they are also aware of ...
      article from the category of fairy tales for maydanutykh about a bright future in the EU.
  11. MBA78
    MBA78 18 June 2014 14: 42
    +5
    in any case, Russia, on its 3rd millennium, takes up duty
  12. Alexey M
    Alexey M 18 June 2014 14: 44
    +1
    We have nothing to share with the Americans. The USA is far away and we do not pretend to their territory. But if they snoop on Russia as they explain to their soldiers what they will die for (we have just the complete order with motivation, we defend our own). grandmothers under the bullets to climb a lot of fools there in the states? All of their patriotism until the first losses. How zinc parcels come in large quantities so immediately the US citizens and ask what we forgot from these Russians give us our kids, and return our grandmothers (since one day the second company in Iraq cost $ 1 lard). Here and think who needs war.
    The state spends money on war, and private business earns.
  13. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 18 June 2014 14: 47
    +2
    Yeah, they will go in, reach the Urals, the NATO army will dissolve into 1 German, 1 African and 1 Austrian.
    By tradition, we will take the German and Austrian prisoners, and we will shoot the American.
  14. Nikaviz
    Nikaviz 18 June 2014 14: 48
    +6
    Writer...!!!! That smoked at night .... wassat Complete nonsense. recourse
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 18 June 2014 15: 31
      +3
      Yes, apparently he smoked while sitting with Amerov propagandists ... complete nonsense
  15. Antokha
    Antokha 18 June 2014 14: 48
    +1
    I think that if there is a threat of nuclear war, then the European countries will take our side since their territory will be destroyed and China and India will not be silent.
  16. volot-voin
    volot-voin 18 June 2014 14: 50
    +4
    The war never stopped. Recent events in the countries of the Arab world and in Ukraine show - slaughter to be. Here in what form it will be this question. In the worst case scenario, this is the Russian Maidan and the civil war inside, which I would not like very much. There may be such a scenario as a rebellion of guest workers in the battle for their rights, when the state begins to suppress them, NATO troops enter.
    The US will not take us in a frontal attack, so they will try their best to blow us up from the inside, playing on the lack of a far from imperfect Russian government and the degree of public discontent.
  17. Stiletto
    Stiletto 18 June 2014 14: 50
    +2
    In the Russian swamps the armies were forever gone, quantitatively and qualitatively superior to everyone and everything. Napoleon, Hitler ... Obama ?!
  18. rugor
    rugor 18 June 2014 14: 51
    +2
    Translation of the article is not important, from the American language
  19. Gora66
    Gora66 18 June 2014 14: 56
    +2
    About self-sacrifice, the author just noticed. A simple example, the game "wartander" tanks, on the European site, when the enemy captures points, everyone immediately turns sour and stupidly fires, but one tank flies right into the midst of enemies at the captured point and tries to snatch victory ... be sure this is 99,999 cases our fellow countryman or, as they say, the Russian-speaking representative of humanity.
  20. black
    black 18 June 2014 14: 56
    +2
    The article is not about anything. Does anyone else seriously imagine the open confrontation of nuclear powers? One start and all, there will be nothing. Not borsch, not a hot dog, not planet Earth.
  21. Palladium900
    Palladium900 18 June 2014 14: 57
    +2
    In other words, not a single technique, no matter how perfect, can resist the powerful system that the US is pushing towards the very borders of Russia.
    It sounds doubtful after the incident with Khibiny's EW and the destroyer Donald Cook ..
  22. ermolai
    ermolai 18 June 2014 14: 58
    +1
    By the way, the mosquito is not the topic. but interestingly, it was found that when eating chicken meat a person is not inclined to riots, a rabbit gets a tendency to inexplicable fears, phobias, respectively, meat of a bear, laziness, phlegm and an explosive response to aggression, protection of the territory, grubs. Well, about the fat yourself guess

    in Russia they preferred the bear-bear, and the game is like a tapeworm with a horn,
    and at 3.14 dos, then hamburgers like that, and Coca eats and there is no Coke
  23. Turkestan
    Turkestan 18 June 2014 14: 59
    +1
    At the same time, according to American military experts, Russia is significantly behind the United States in terms of the level of development of the latest technological developments in conventional weapons.

    Interesting Phrase. And what exactly is the American army ahead of the Russian? And when they talk about high spending on the army in America. Why doesn’t they say that about 50% of the US army is outside the US and naturally there will be large expenses and the budget of the army.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 18 June 2014 15: 55
      +3
      Quote: Turkestan
      At the same time, according to American military experts, Russia is significantly behind the United States in terms of the level of development of the latest technological developments in conventional weapons.

      Interesting Phrase. And what exactly is the American army ahead of the Russian? And when they talk about high spending on the army in America. Why doesn’t they say that about 50% of the US army is outside the US and naturally there will be large expenses and the budget of the army.

      Generally did not want to comment on the article because most of the comments in no way!
      what are for example comments about Fu35 ... well, people .. if the action is applied relative to today, it turns out that we have 5 T-50s for Americans 200 Fu35, about the American missile defense, about the blanks and our TopolM, well, the people are just the point that the Americans want to deploy their missile defense near the borders with Russia in order to be able to shoot down ICBMs on the launch pad ... and much much more
      In my humble opinion, the author just wanted to say that people and equipment are still better equipped and better (in the picture, if the English soldier in Afghanistan is not mistaken)
      There is practically parity in nuclear forces and that today the probability of an open conflict is unlikely and that Putin over and over again overcomes the conditional line and that the Americans are yielding more and more, Abkhazia and Ossetia are a trifle compared to Crimea, which has become part of the Russian Federation a Ossetia and Abkhazia on their own.
      The author, on the contrary, shows that the authority of Russia is growing, as is the opposition to the Americans, and that perhaps this will sooner or later result in an open confrontation. and the majority found fault with some kind of discs and Fu-35 and smoking the use of narcotic drugs by the author .. kindergarten and not VO.
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  25. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 18 June 2014 15: 13
    +2
    ... In other words, not a single technique, no matter how perfect it can, can withstand the powerful system that the US is pushing to the very borders of Russia ...
    *******************
    And men don’t know ... laughing
  26. strannik595
    strannik595 18 June 2014 15: 13
    +2
    Article
    nuclear submarines: USA - 140, Russia -110;
    in the morning I read other information
    Today in the Russian Navy 60 submarines: 10 strategic nuclear, more than 30 multipurpose nuclear, the rest diesel and special purpose.

    see article from today
    Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy: Times of thoughtless cheating of ships and boats are over
    ...... yes, they have good opportunities for the transfer of a military group, but the question is, how effectively can they counteract Russian ground units on the continent? it’s not possible to stay in checkpoints like in Afghanistan, the Pskov Airborne Forces are not the Taliban ....... this is the second, and firstly they won’t succeed in delivering them so easily, Russia is not Iraq when the delivery show, the landing of troops and the capture of Baghdad was shown live
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 18 June 2014 15: 38
      +1
      Quote: strannik595
      and firstly they won’t be able to deliver them so easily, Russia is not Iraq, when the shows on the delivery, landing of troops and the capture of Baghdad were shown live


      I agree with everything, but here there is doubt ... From the north, we have practically a holey sieve, to put it mildly ...
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 18 June 2014 15: 57
        +1
        that’s probably why every month they fly from Plesetsk along the Kura River in Kamchatka, just to those places, so that they don’t even have such a thought ...... they’ll hardly trample through the Arctic, they don’t have an atomic, ice-breaking aircraft carrier laughing....... there is 1 Russian on 50 sq. km, there are no cities and industry, and surveillance from the military satellites of the area is underway + the border guards will warn if that (and they are on duty there, he saw it) so that our hands are untied if that, we’ll fry on the way
      2. kombat58
        kombat58 18 June 2014 16: 14
        +2
        So after all, the last six months have been doing just that.
  27. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 18 June 2014 15: 14
    +1
    not yet evening...
  28. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 18 June 2014 15: 15
    +1
    Although so far, thank God, it doesn’t smell like a full-blown war, but it was close recently in the midst of events in Ukraine, and this can happen again, given the aggressive tone of Russian foreign policy, at any time.

    The defense of their interests and the independent policy of Russia is called an aggressive tone. The tone is exactly what they say to us. Given the politics and tone of the United States, in my opinion, GDP foresaw a conflict with the Americans. But pushed him to the 20s. And our plans came to an end, so far, in the region of this period.
  29. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 18 June 2014 15: 16
    +1
    "Russia in 2013 allocated $ 68,2 billion for defense, while US military spending exceeded $ 600 billion."

    How much of this budget is spent on salaries, maintaining bases, and maintaining in service and maintenance a huge number of equipment, all kinds of war games, cuts and kickbacks? You never dreamed ...

    "In addition, the United States intends to adopt in the near future the latest development of American aircraft designers, the fifth generation F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which, in terms of its flight performance, is significantly superior to the Russian aircraft in service."

    Stupidly in quantity. I do not think that the Su-35 is worse ... hi But for them there is the best in the world of air defense. Surely the latest modifications of the S-300 are tough.
    "At the same time, Russian servicemen are superior to the Americans in their readiness for self-sacrifice and the ability to endure the hardships of military service."

    And this is the main component hi
  30. _Lexa_
    _Lexa_ 18 June 2014 15: 17
    +1
    The author did not say a word about the fighting spirit of the Russians! And this is the main weapon!
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 18 June 2014 15: 46
      +2
      Quote: _Lexa_
      The author did not say a word about the fighting spirit of the Russians! And this is the main weapon!

      Fighting spirit is certainly good, but you cannot argue against modern weapons with one spirit.
      1. hooligan
        hooligan 18 June 2014 23: 41
        +1
        how can you not trample it? what does Strelkov do ?! there the guys defend their truth, this is fighting spirit. they allowed drying against them,
  31. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 18 June 2014 15: 17
    +5
    all these comparisons are extremely approximate and their error is such that the meaning in them is no more than a ches in Globa's predictions. what the hell is the difference in 50 charges with amers more or not if a third of what is enough is that there would be no one else to use.
    about artillery the same as not so many of them on the continent how will the war be fought where and for what
    about the number in general nonsense, how much really to this "million" the Americans can put up a reserve (here just the advantages of the conscript army in all its glory will rise).
    as for professionalism, this is more of an advertisement, the most publicized delta group was in its entirety, with the exception of the headquarters, essentially destroyed by Cuban builders in grenada
  32. Camouflet
    Camouflet 18 June 2014 15: 24
    +2
    Kutsay article. A much deeper analysis is needed.

    But with the title of the article I personally completely agree.
    Pin.dosy are preparing to fight with the whole world. On what and undermine the navel.
    The issue of dismantling the United States as a state is a matter of human survival.
  33. tnship2
    tnship2 18 June 2014 15: 28
    +2
    The fall of a pair of three nuclear warheads into the territory of at least the USA even though RUSSIA makes the continued existence of peoples a nightmare. How much money has been pledged to eliminate Chernobyl? No missile defense system is capable of 100% protecting any country, but the garbage can will be ambitious.
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 18 June 2014 16: 06
      0
      This is also well understood and overseas .... Pontus all
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 18 June 2014 16: 08
      +2
      Quote: tnship2
      How much money has been pledged to eliminate Chernobyl?

      You are a little wrong, Chernobyl, how should I put it correctly, is a "dirty" release and the explosion of an atomic warhead is "clean" energy as an example of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there are still a lot of diseases associated with the bombing, but people live there almost immediately after the bombing ...
      One by one, they died of burns and radiation, died of radiation, and many of the doctors and rescuers who entered the city immediately after the explosion. 140 thousand people died by the end of the year. Altogether about 350 thousand people allegedly received serious doses of radiation and many of them began to die one after another. This is more than the entire population of the city, as it was before the war. With various diseases, some of those who survived the bomb have survived to this day. Such people are called in Japanese hibakusha - survivors of the atomic bomb. Someone from the hibakusha died almost immediately, while others had various cancers and leukemia only appeared a couple of decades after the explosion. One girl, Sadako, like many, died of leukemia in 1955, when she was only 12 years old. Shortly before her death, she recognized one Japanese legend - that anyone who can make a thousand origami cranes can make any wish. She wanted to recover, but found out about the legend too late - she managed to lay down only 644 cranes before her death. Now the city of Hiroshima accepts paper cranes from around the world. Children who were still in the stomach of their surviving mothers at the time of the explosion were born immediately with serious illnesses. Many of the dead were slaves from China and Korea - they never returned from Japanese soil.

      During the explosion in the city, absolutely everything burned down. The temperature near the epicenter reached eight thousand degrees. Even the stone melted. The museum contains many molten things that have been in the epicenter of the explosion, which you can even touch - melted stones turned into glass, spilled objects of human life - cups and bottles. The flash of light was so bright that on some stones you can still see the shadows of dying people. And immediately after the explosion it started to rain - and it was completely black. The level of radiation in the black rain was so high that fish floated upward in the river and sea. The radiation level in the city became harmless to humans only by December.

      Americans don’t get used to killing peaceful people .. they sucked in English traditions of the genocide of people with milk.
  34. Free Island
    Free Island 18 June 2014 15: 37
    +3
    60 billion in Russia versus 600 billion in the US IS NOT AN INDICATOR WHAT THE US IS COOLER :)) the author is childish))) he was clearly brought up on the Hollywood "Commandos" "Rambo" and so on and sincerely still with his not matured heart believes that the US army is cooler than the whole universe)))))) So 60 against 600 billion is just an indicator that the US Department of Defense is stealing more, the budget is more sawing, that's all. They spend and write off money on all sorts of crap :))) author, go down to earth, no need to measure the strength of the armies with some kind of words, numbers - you need to measure the facts. Where and in what place did the US army collide with a real army of another state ??? Not where and not when. All. Dot. Basta :)))
  35. Camouflet
    Camouflet 18 June 2014 15: 39
    +1
    I must remind everyone that 1 megaton to the center of Yellowstone - and pin Dosia kirdyk is enough. So we need to compare not only purely known figures, but much more that is unknown to us. For example, I think that Stirlitz is now doing the right thing in pin.dosia.
  36. Rorabek
    Rorabek 18 June 2014 15: 43
    +2
    An old article, ... or a variant of another author ... already read, about 2 months ago ... or plagiarism wassat
  37. Itson
    Itson 18 June 2014 15: 47
    +2
    Quote: Free Island
    60 billion in Russia versus 600 billion in the US IS NOT AN INDICATOR WHAT THE US IS COOLER :)) the author is childish))) he was clearly brought up on the Hollywood "Commandos" "Rambo" and so on and sincerely still with his not matured heart believes that the US army is cooler than the whole universe)))))) So 60 against 600 billion is just an indicator that the US Department of Defense is stealing more, the budget is more sawing, that's all. They spend and write off money on all sorts of crap :))) author, go down to earth, no need to measure the strength of the armies with some kind of words, numbers - you need to measure the facts. Where and in what place did the US army collide with a real army of another state ??? Not where and not when. All. Dot. Basta :)))

    I agree with you completely.
    The article is not about what now - everyone should be afraid, stand out ..? And about the Hollywood commandos - so the bigger the cabinet, the louder it falls. And the article is minus.
  38. Denka
    Denka 18 June 2014 15: 48
    +2
    Quote: Natalia
    the number of military personnel in the USA is 1 million 492 thousand, in Russia - 845 thousand

    I, too, have the advantage ... one Russian bear will tear 20 American sheep. Hooray patriotism? So what?
    F-35 ... and where did the F-22 go? which was all so incredibly incredible.
    Topol-M with insufficient combat capabilities and more than a modest deployment scale can in no way become a symmetrical response to the promising multi-position US missile defense system.

    It’s one thing to shoot down canvases flying along a known path, and another, the most advanced ICBM in the world that knows where and how it flies, and all this in a cloud of interference and the presence of false targets.

    And if you still work properly with Iskander before launching ICBMs across Europe, then most likely if you notice, it will obviously be too late!
  39. Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 June 2014 15: 48
    0
    Somehow stupid. First, for the entire time of its existence, the American army has never defeated anyone, so it’s silly to compare military budgets. How is America fighting? Either arranges a color revolution, or cleans the territory with bombing, or arms extremists. Amerikosy demonstrate all this on the outskirts. And they will never send their army not only to the territory of Russia, but even to the outskirts. They will fight by someone else’s hands, set off NATO or Bandera.
    But the most important weapon is sanctions. And we can resist, depending on how independent we are.
  40. edeligor
    edeligor 18 June 2014 16: 00
    0
    laughing The article was written by a layman for the layman, from the series who is longer and thicker! It amazes me, friends, how you began to discuss it. I beg of you! Based on the logic of the author, a state like Israel was supposed to disappear from the political map of the world somewhere in the 60s, and the Wehrmacht was destroyed near the borders of France at the beginning of the Second World War.
    And yet ... are there really any "military" theorists calculating the results of the use of nuclear weapons? !!! FU, FU this is to Kashchenko !!!
    What is their super duper missile defense to intercept a missile launched from a submarine from under the caps of the arctic ocean ?!
  41. vsoltan
    vsoltan 18 June 2014 16: 22
    +2
    In general, today the following correlation of forces and means in the armed forces of the USA and Russia has developed: the number of military personnel in the USA is 1 million 492 thousand, in Russia - 845 thousand; strategic aircraft capable of carrying nuclear weapons on board: USA - 154, Russia - 141; nuclear submarines: USA - 140, Russia −110; missile systems capable of carrying nuclear warheads: USA - 450, Russia - 356; Artillery: USA - 7429, Russia - 5837

    1. All these incorrect calculations have been published more than once.
    2. Strategic aviation at mattress mats - as far as I know, it rusts in deep "opera"
    3. Submarines are ineffective, we don’t have many seas, and the Northern Sea Route is covered .... they will have to disperse their forces to defend the 2 ocean coasts
    4. And the last - and how much time will the mattresses spend delivering it all here?

    Conclusions:

    1. The article is yet another cabinet rubbish, by the way it’s known that military practitioners fight very well, they don’t like to
    2. No global war with or without nuclear weapons threatens us
    3. On the outskirts, they cannot, therefore, they have to wait for "Maidans and Maidanchiks" from the inside, here ... and take preventive measures ... German, bulk and others - to close ... after all, the Americans were closed in 41 million Japanese and Chinese on the west coast, so, just in case, their own citizens ... and did not hesitate ... you need to learn from them arrogance and impudence ...
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 18 June 2014 18: 06
      +1
      4. And the last - and how much time will the mattresses spend delivering it all here?

      I totally agree! I immediately remembered V. Pikul's novel "The Cruisers" when 3 Vladivostok cruisers under the command of N.O. Essen smashed the sea communications between Japan and America, interfering with the delivery of weapons for the capture of Port Arthur and terrified Japanese, British and American sailors during the Russo-Japanese war.
  42. Thompson
    Thompson 18 June 2014 16: 25
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    Quote: Anton
    "" given the aggressive tone of Russian foreign policy "

    When was this aggressive tone in foreign policy?

    "In other words, no technology, no matter how perfect it is, can withstand the powerful system that the United States is pushing towards the very borders of Russia."

    This is where the aggressor is! Omers won't bother about the Perimeter system!


    "" In addition, in the near future the United States intends to adopt the latest development of American aircraft designers, the fifth generation F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which, in terms of its flight performance, is significantly superior to the Russian aircraft in service. ""


    Is the Single-engine, slow "penguin" with a bunch of flaws better than the T-50?


    "At the same time, Russian servicemen are superior to the Americans in their readiness for self-sacrifice and the ability to endure the hardships of military service."

    This is true and this is the key moment of all this reasoning !!!

    Although so far, thank God, it doesn’t smell like a full-blown war, but it was close recently in the midst of events in Ukraine, and this can happen again, given the aggressive tone of Russian foreign policy, at any time.

    I agree!
    The author is clearly unhealthy, overeating something, otherwise how can you carry such nonsense. More precisely, signs of fear, panic and paranoia before the reviving power of Russia are clearly visible! We realized that this is not the 90s! So, as it was noted many times, we are on the right track!
  43. Elena
    Elena 18 June 2014 16: 29
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    But what’s the most interesting thing, all these woe-tuggers always talk about Putin, who alone rules Russia. Russia is a democratic country with a parliament and republics, which I don’t skip about many unitary states, and the decisions I make are not Putin, but the Nishnya and the Upper Chambers. And if the writer wants to convince us that Putin is all, then why does he oppose Putin to America, he logically on the other side uses the word Obama. Putin develops activity, Obama steals the army, for example ...
  44. lis-ik
    lis-ik 18 June 2014 16: 48
    0
    Obama in the photo in the article looks like the "blue thief" in the movie "12 chairs" when Ostap Bender looks at him "he stole and he was ashamed."
  45. nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 18 June 2014 16: 52
    -1
    The computers of the missile forces of the United States of America use 8-inch (floppy) floppy disks, which were not even used in Russia. The author forgot about Yars, Liner and cruise missiles of vertical take-off of nuclear submarines Severodvinsk.
  46. Diviz
    Diviz 18 June 2014 16: 56
    0
    One and the same thought of us more we are better. And what about other countries go under us buy f35 take loans in dollars and the more the better. And those fools think that a meteorite will fly, then America will help them and everyone admires the power of America and the priest’s own is not uncovered. This locomotive of the United States devours countries after countries and what if happens will throw them. The idea of ​​comparing the amount of money has the goal of hiding its problems in the first place is economic and financial. The second is to disorient and deform both the enemy and the main ally of the main threats emanating from various factors. Because the policy is such that to happen all these small countries will run to the papa of the United States. And this gmo mmo pus and so on and those still.
  47. lotar
    lotar 18 June 2014 17: 07
    0
    Experts constantly compare the military budget of different countries, but forget to take into account where this money is spent. How much money is spent on comparable areas of science and technology. How much money these engineers receive as salaries and bonus money. How much money goes to the left side (we have to quality of kickbacks and other similar schemes, they have the same kickbacks but called somewhat differently, since there is no mention of theft in the most democratic and fair country).
  48. Mik-51
    Mik-51 18 June 2014 17: 09
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    The author - clearly wrote a carefully disguised scarecrow from the category: "... Chief! Everything is lost, everything is lost! ..."
    Moreover, it is probably a paid-for misinformation, so that the "swamp" guys have something to refer to.
  49. herruvim
    herruvim 18 June 2014 17: 14
    0
    Hush, comrade author, scare us will not work
  50. Artifact
    Artifact 18 June 2014 17: 46
    0
    60 billion for Russia versus 600 billion for the United States is good, but first, let's compare the cost of combat aircraft, with comparable characteristics, the price differs by about 10 times (the price-quality indicator for Russian counterparts is off scale, which cannot be said about the weapons of the "partner" with wild west), and so in all weapons.
    1. lelyk72
      lelyk72 18 June 2014 17: 55
      0
      If my memory serves me, then the T50 costs approx. 100 lyamas, maybe 80, so "10" doesn't work.
      SU35, in my opinion, 40-50. So here about your "10" it turns out, but which of them is better, especially if, in addition to the price, we also compare the quantity, then it is unlikely that ours will have an advantage .......
      Moreover, the production potential, nevertheless, is much higher in the ovs. And now it's still not 41 years old, "on maples". modern airplanes cannot be assembled in the open air .......
    2. clidon
      clidon 18 June 2014 19: 44
      0
      The difference in price is about 2 times. And it is determined mainly by lower salaries in the Russian defense industry.