Russia is afraid of late!

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The war with the USA has already begun. The Americans captured almost all of Ukraine - a buffer state, which was a predpolyem for the Russian Armed Forces. There was a geopolitical catastrophe comparable to the 1941 year. Then Belarus will follow, since A. Lukashenko began to flirt with the West, and the fate of M. Gaddafi awaits him, like all those who went to cooperate with the United States. Then Kazakhstan - N. Nazarbayev is old, after his departure the “color revolution” will inevitably be launched. Russia, surrounded by US military bases with missile defense systems and short-range and medium-range missiles disguised as missile defense with a minimum flight time, will be presented with an ultimatum: capitulation or destruction. Resistance to a country without a nuclear shield will become impossible. Next - dismemberment, the colonial administration, the decrease in population to 50 million people., Sufficient to serve the raw interests of the West, as slandered S. Talbot and M. Albright. The disappearance of the Russian world, and with it the hopes for the survival of mankind on planet Earth.

Now only Donbass is fighting the forces of evil. And the main question of his defenders is whether Russia will come to the rescue or not. Putin will “merge” Ukraine, or it will nevertheless decide to join the struggle openly and effectively. The punitive operation of Kiev entered a crucial phase. In the course went all kinds weapons Ukrainian army, including those prohibited by international conventions. There is no doubt that the destruction of the DNI and the LC is a matter of time. They have no forces for counterattacks, and "defense is the death of an armed uprising" (V. Ulyanov-Lenin).

In Russia, among the “analysts”, the thesis that the West is trying to draw Russia into the war on the territory of Ukraine is very popular and the most correct decision is not to succumb to provocations. Wasn’t the same thing that the “brilliant leader and teacher” demanded from his military in 1941? And how did it end? To give up the struggle now means to go on a creeping surrender, a gradual "plunging" of Russia. Therefore, this thesis is nonsense, if not something more.

Least of all the United States, and even more so Western Europe, are interested in a military confrontation with Russia. The result of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is the inability to establish control over the territories and a huge budget deficit. The economy is in deep crisis. Another war will finally destroy it. In addition, America is now in the next negative phase of its development, and the maximum fall will fall on the 2015 year.

Some argue that to get out of the crisis, the United States also needs a war, which they are trying to provoke by the hands of the Kiev putschists. But they forget that in order to overcome the financial and economic crisis, a global war is needed - only with it, can the economy be transferred to a mobilization regime. In normal operation, a local war in Europe will finally destroy the United States. However, a global war with Russia, while there is no missile defense, is unthinkable. And the West will never take such a risk.

Then why do they incite the Kiev authorities to behave so arrogantly towards Russia? The answer is obvious: to get Ukraine, psychologically suppressing the will of the leadership of the Russian Federation to resist.

The West now has four types of weapons that it uses in the following sequence:

1. Lies and disinformation, i.e. information offensive. In this they are quite successful. The task is to demoralize the enemy, instill in him that he does not have the right to defend himself, that the truth is not on his side. This they took the USSR, and this can not be allowed now.

2. Threats and intimidation. After treatment with weapon No.1, weapon No.2 is used. They are masters of bluffing, you can't argue with that. And it will be a shame if they achieve their goal, using only psychology, being unable to win in a real struggle.

3. Economic sanctions. This is a real impact, because Russia's economy is built into the world. And although the sanctions will have negative consequences for Western Europe, they will go for them. Because Europe is occupied by the United States, and in foreign policy, it is dependent. But whatever the economic losses for Russia, is it really reasonable to surrender the country - for the sake of temporary economic well-being with the prospect of the complete destruction of the Russian state? The way out is to transfer the economy to a mobilization mode of operation, which will allow to gain economic autarky from the West.

4. Armed forces, both conventional and nuclear. But while there is no missile defense, their use is more than risky, and they will not be applied. The United States enters into armed struggle only if they have a minimum of tenfold superiority over the enemy, but there is no such superiority.

Thus, now there is a psychological offensive against Russia and, if it turns out to be insufficient, then sanctions will be applied against the primary sectors of the economy. But when the question is about the very existence of the country and the people, the sanctions should be taken, they can be survived and, moreover, thanks to them to gain economic independence. There is no point in fearing war with the West, this fear is the result of the use of the weapon number XXUMX by the enemy.

But Putin is clearly hesitant. After his statement from 7.04.2014 on the desirability of postponing the referendums in the Donbas and the presidential elections in Ukraine, assistance to the Donbas was in doubt. Rallies in support and talks on talk shows about Novorossiya stopped. Some say that the West has found the means of influencing Putin personally, and he is “merging” the Donbass, others - that the president is conducting some kind of “clever multipurpose” that will ensure the liberation from the fascists of almost all of Ukraine. But the first result of this statement is already there - the demoralization of resistance in the Donbas. Few people now want to get involved in a hopeless cause, which explains the decrease in the flow of volunteers into the militia of the DPR and the LPR.

What happened? Why was the intention even to send troops replaced by such "pacifism"? Now Putin exactly repeats the behavior of Yanukovych. Kiev authorities openly carry out the genocide of the population of Donbass, the radicals in Kiev storm the Russian embassy, ​​the acting. Ukrainian Foreign Minister calls Putin a name ... but he is silent. Four explanations for this behavior can be proposed.

The first version, semi-official, voiced by Lieutenant-General KGB N. Leonov: "Russia does not have the strength now to allow it to take such a risky and dangerous step, having the whole of Europe, the United States against it. It would be suicidal for the Russian state itself ".

If it were not Ukraine, but Honduras, on which Russia's security does not depend at all, then we could agree with this approach. But this is Ukraine. “There is no power now ...” And when was Russia ready for defense? The victims of aggression are never ready for war - otherwise they would not have been attacked. Remember the 1941 year again. Readiness was planned for 1942 year, but Germany did not wait. And the US will not wait. Is it really necessary to abandon the defense of their country due to the fact that there is little power? But is it not enough in reality? In the end, the general should know that the victory comes not the one who has the greatest military potential, but who has greater military power. The Americans are well aware of this and in no case will they be involved in the war in Ukraine. The coming 6-8 years.

The second explanation is the resistance of the financial and raw materials oligarchy of Russia, which intensified after the "point" sanctions of the West. But this resistance was always, as well as the relative "weakness" of Russia. Putin, on the other hand, wilted not after the second wave of sanctions, but after meeting with D. Burkhalter.

The third explanation is that the West has found compromising information personally on Putin, but one that he had to tear down. This is quite likely, since Putin left the Sobchak team, where everyone stole in 1990, and (not excluded) killed competitors. And he would not have become his, if not participated in all this. It is only in stupid films that a Soviet intelligence officer can earn the characteristic “merciless towards enemies of the Reich” without committing crimes.

But there is a way out. If this is true, then you need to honestly tell everything to the people, repent, explain that otherwise it was impossible to get to the top of power to save Russia. The people will understand and forgive. In his youth, Stalin robbed banks and participated in the destruction of the Russian state. But he restored it, made the country a superpower.

The fourth explanation is “tricky multi-path”, but not of Russia, but of the West. It can be assumed that Europe through D. Burkhalter and A. Merkel promised Putin to get out of the control of the United States and the formation of a new center of power of a multipolar world, if he does not use force in Ukraine.

But this is the same deception as the agreement from 21.02.14, when the EU, represented by the three foreign ministers, "threw" Putin along with Yanukovych. Putin’s cause, because he, according to Minister Sikorski, forced Yanukovych to abandon the use of force against Maidan and sign the above agreement. The limited use of force in the east of Ukraine without the introduction of troops in no way can prevent Europe from getting rid of American dependence. It hinders, but in reality makes it impossible, the presence of US troops in Europe. And the troops, much stronger than the troops of all EU countries. And, of course, Europe’s financial dependence, which allows the US to destroy it economically in the event of insurrection. Therefore, such a tempting offer is just a bait on the hook in order to get Ukraine a hoax.

Thus, in any case, Putin has no reason to "fuss." Not only is it too late to be afraid. The US will not decide on a war, but there is an asymmetrical response to sanctions. This is the threat of withdrawal from those treaties in which America and Europe are interested. First of all - from the outdated contract of SRMS. If it seems a little - from the START-3 agreement. The US interest in this treaty is not that they want, instead of threefold mutual nuclear annihilation, to be limited to a single one. It’s just that with an increase in the number of ICBMs, the cost of missile defense sharply increases, and with a certain (critical) number of these missiles, creating an effective missile defense becomes almost impossible. Finally, if this does not help, as a last resort - withdrawal from the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. With the threat of the transfer of tactical nuclear weapons to countries that are fighting American aggression. For example, Venezuela. It is unlikely that this will leave the Western elite indifferent.

Then what can Russia do and should do now?

Recognize the DPR and LPR, conclude an agreement on mutual assistance and openly, officially implement effective military assistance with volunteers and weapons. In no case do not recognize the results of the coup in Kiev and the fake presidential elections in Ukraine. Establish a no-fly zone over eastern Ukraine. Because the punitive operation has entered its final stage, and military assistance can be late, inflict aviation attacks on accumulations of armored vehicles and artillery of the Kiev regime in order to equalize the chances. Air raids, as shown by the practice of the United States and Israel, have never been interpreted as entering the war. This is enough for the defense of Donbass and the formation of subsequently New Russia. Ground forces should not be introduced, so as not to further incite nationalist sentiments among the Ukrainians of the Center. Having choked on the benefits of European integration, over time they themselves will ask for Novorossia-Ukraine. Perhaps, the Orthodox inhabitants of Volhynia and Rivne region will also join. In addition to Galicia, located on the other side of the geopolitical fault (S. Huntington). Galicia is inhabited by a completely different people, with a different faith and a different mentality. It is a born ally of the West, and people will never be there. Therefore, in Ukraine they should not have a place.

At this critical time for the fate of Ukraine and Russia, it should be clear to everyone that the United States went all-in, and all sorts of calls for negotiations, round tables, all sorts of concessions would bring the matter to the fact that, in a maximum of 10 years, Russians will have to fight on their own territory. It is time to call a spade a spade and openly fight. Otherwise, Russia will have to pay for the victory in the lives of millions of its citizens, and at the grave of V. Putin it will be written: "Their partner Putin is here".
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  1. +21
    18 2014 June
    USA went all-in. So let’s go, we also have trump cards in our sleeves, only such trump cards are not provided for in the American decks.
    1. +12
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Echelon
      populations up to 50 million people, sufficient to serve the raw material interests of the West, as S. Talbot and M. Albright said.

      I want to correct, not 50 million people, but 15 million people.
      1. +1
        18 2014 June
        CALL. RU Today, 09: 42 ↑

        Quote: Echelon
        populations up to 50 million people, sufficient to serve the raw material interests of the West, as S. Talbot and M. Albright said.

        I want to correct, not 50 million people, but 15 million people.

        hi Anatoly, thank you for the film. All I knew was a slender system. Thanks again
    2. +36
      18 2014 June
      The article has a lot of speculation. I would not dramatize the situation in such a way and not trust my president, who has repeatedly proved his leadership qualities and the favor of Fortune! Yes
      1. Boralex63
        +7
        18 2014 June
        Fortune in politics ?! Yes you are kidding ...
        Fortune, grinning her teeth, smiled ... unless so!
        1. 0
          18 2014 June
          If only she hadn’t turned her backside, otherwise it would turn out to the geyropa before, and they like the back more laughing
        2. 0
          18 2014 June
          "" Boralex63 RU Today, 10:41 ↑

          Fortune in politics ?! You're kidding ... ""
          ================================================== ===========

          As far as I know, luck has not bothered anyone and never.
          You do not agree? belay
          And in politics as well!
      2. +5
        18 2014 June
        For example, when Crimea joined. Against the background of patriotic noise, Serdyukov was forgiven.
        1. +5
          18 2014 June
          Quote: Gardamir
          For example, when Crimea joined. Against the background of patriotic noise, Serdyukov was forgiven.


          and Crimea annexed, or allowed to annex in exchange for all dill? Recalls the year 1939, how that division ended is known.
      3. optimist
        -2
        18 2014 June
        “The third explanation is that the West found incriminating evidence against Putin personally, and such that he had to get away with it. This is quite likely, since Putin left Sobchak's team, where everything was stolen in the 1990s, and (not excluded) competitors were killed. he would not have become his own there if he had not participated in all this. It is only in stupid films that a Soviet intelligence officer can earn the characteristic "merciless to the enemies of the Reich" without committing crimes. " On my own behalf, I would like to remind you that the gdp is ebna and chubais. Well, to the heap, the situation with Serdyukov and others like him. I am amazed, what a short memory people have ... The whole "Putin's cunning plan" consists in one thing: to raze Russia together with its Kent-Abramovich-Vekselberg-Rothen
      4. Alexander I
        -26
        18 2014 June
        And where is his evidence. For all his rule there was only a purposeful collapse and plunder of the state. He has more guilt before Russia than Gorbachev and Yeltsin together.
        1. 0
          18 2014 June
          Quote: Alexander I
          And where is his evidence. For all his rule there was only a purposeful collapse and plunder of the state. He has more guilt before Russia than Gorbachev and Yeltsin together.


          You are a naive boy, I want to assure you of this. For so, you would not talk about your president. Listen to more "people" from the fifth column. They probably all know that. Where does Comrade Putin keep money, how much he "stole" it, and how our state began to disintegrate and people began to live worse ... Etc. etc.
      5. koshh
        +1
        18 2014 June
        Quote: GSH-18
        who has repeatedly proved his leadership qualities and the favor of Fortune!


        This is not called fortune. This is charisma.
    3. +5
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Echelon
      USA went all-in

      Another bluff, like during the "Cuban missile crisis". Ukraine is another Vietnam with Afghanistan. Countries with nuclear weapons seem to be present, but they are fighting against each other unofficially. If the United States, for example, introduces troops into Ukraine and Novorossiya, what, Russia will deliver a nuclear strike against the United States or send troops head-on? sad And if vice versa? Same! There is a lot of noise, a war is behind the scenes, but they will most likely agree and sign another Andrus agreement on the division of Ukraine.
      What did they do to us in the "Cuban missile crisis"? Kenedy sat and thought and began negotiations.
      1. +15
        18 2014 June
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        If the United States, for example, brings troops into Ukraine and Novorossiya, what, will Russia strike a nuclear strike against the United States or send troops into the forehead?
        What if the United States introduces troops into Russia? What are you talking about! The fact of the matter is that Ukraine is not Vietnam or Afghanistan, this is actually Russia, this is already on our border. By the way, even in Vietnam, which was so far away, our pilots and anti-aircraft gunners fought, there were our instructors and direct assistance was provided, which they did not hesitate, and were not afraid of American sanctions. In order for the United States to make concessions, as in the case with Cuba, during the "Cuban missile crisis", its national interests must be defended, and not hope that everything will settle down by itself, that someone will sit there, think and start negotiations. You can relate to the article in different ways, but it is better to "blow on the water" here a hundred times, to play it safe, than to be touched by hurray-patriots, with their omnipotent hats and unbridled optimism until the first serious nix, after which they are blown away by the wind somewhere, like you will have to go to the front.
        1. +2
          18 2014 June
          Quote: Per se.
          The fact of the matter is that Ukraine is not Vietnam and Afghanistan, this is actually Russia

          Quote: Per se.
          it's better to "blow on the water" here a hundred times, to play it safe, than to be touched by hurray-patriots

          Somehow it does not fit! Ukraine is Rus (I will add that in this Rus already the master of the United States) and at the same time, it is necessary to "blow the water." Decide already.
          If Ukraine is Russia, give it to those who rape it!
          And if you need to "blow into the water," they would have told the Novorossians: "Sit quietly and do not stick your head out, we will not help you." Why substitute people in vain? What for?

          DECIDE!

          Quote: Per se.
          And if the United States brings troops to Russia?

          What is it like? After a nuclear strike on the United States? Yes, neither they nor we can not afford anything like that, and both countries realized this during the "Cuban missile crisis". A direct collision is a nuclear disaster.

          Quote: Per se.
          By the way, even in Vietnam, which was so far away, our pilots and anti-aircraft gunners fought, there were our instructors and direct assistance was provided

          In Ukraine, we have people from the USA and Russia. And they are fighting against each other. We are just in the role of Vietnam.

          And the last thing: how did the "blowing on the water" end with Hitler, remember? And if Stalin had mobilized and put troops on the defensive in full readiness to repel a strike. Yes, Hitler would have said that the USSR was preparing to attack him and attacked him. Or maybe he did not attack, he considered that the losses would be large and it was not convenient to fight on two fronts. The situation is very similar. How did it end? Was it worth "blowing on the water" and licking the ass?
          1. Owl
            +3
            18 2014 June
            Any mobilization means a declaration of war, so Stalin did not conduct it (openly, at least). Hitler was easier, he already fought with all of Europe. In addition, Stalin gave an order in advance to prepare to repulse the German attack, another matter is how this order was executed. Where properly executed, ours held on. Where they sabotaged (the Kiev Military District, headed by Pavlov, for example), a full Arctic fox came VERY quickly.
            1. +3
              18 2014 June
              Quote: Owl
              Any mobilization means a declaration of war, so Stalin did not conduct it (openly, at least)

              What matters is the result. Now many criticize Stalin for such a decision, and sit in his place and you won’t know what to do. It's easy to be smart after events. Stalin made a decision. Now the GDP is in the same situation. And while his policy resembles that of Stalin. Note that all opinions were divided among those who advocated decisive action and those who advocated cautious action. And to decide everything and to disentangle before history is GDP!
              1. Owl
                +1
                18 2014 June
                I do not criticize Stalin and do not condemn the GDP. As an ordinary citizen, I certainly want to see real help from Novorossiya. But at the same time, I understand perfectly well that the world is not at all easy and it is impossible for Russia to provide open support (I mean the supply of weapons, the introduction of troops, the creation of a no-fly zone, etc.). I am more than sure that Putin understands the consequences of the "surrender" of Novorossia both for himself and for the country and will do everything to leave ALL of Ukraine in the orbit of Russia.
                1. +2
                  18 2014 June
                  Quote: Owl
                  I am more than sure that Putin understands the consequences of the "surrender" of Novorossia both for himself and for the country, and will do everything to leave ALL of Ukraine in the orbit of Russia.

                  We all hope so. But our enemies also increase pressure. Machine guns are firing at the training grounds, we have not heard their crack since the collapse of the USSR. People are being dragged into the army and will soon be chased. We are starting to lose. I do not panic - I ascertain. From the very beginning, I urged all Ukrainians to go to Kiev, and not to sit by their burrows. Now it's too late. ANSWER: ourselves - we can’t handle it. Russia will not be able to give us much help without stepping over the line. She will either have to intervene or merge us. By half measures the issue will not be resolved.
                2. +1
                  18 2014 June
                  Quote: Owl
                  I want to see real help from New Russia

                  и
                  Quote: Owl
                  open support ... is not allowed.


                  Here you have all the answers. And you want and can not. So does Russia help quietly or do volunteers collect cartridges across the fields?
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            3. +1
              18 2014 June
              Quote: Owl
              . Where they sabotaged (the Kiev Military District, headed by Pavlov, for example), a full Arctic fox came VERY quickly.


              Before making such bold declarations, you would first understand the basic things ... Where did the scribe come from? With the beginning of the war, there was no longer a Kiev district, but a South-Western front, where the disaster did not come quickly, but only in the middle of September 1941 and it was not Pavlov who commanded the front, but Kirponos. Pavlov commanded the Western Front, where control was lost in the early days of the war ... It is time to already know such well-known facts so as not to write any gag ....
            4. 0
              18 2014 June
              Quote: Owl
              Where properly executed, ours held on. Where they sabotaged (the Kiev Military District, headed by Pavlov, for example), a full Arctic fox came VERY quickly.

              General D.G. Pavlov from June 1940 commander of the Western Special Military District. Since June 21, 1941 - Commander of the Western Front
              Commander of the Kiev Special Military District, from June 22, 1941 - South-Western Front - General Kirponos MP
              And yet - not at all any mobilization means a declaration of war.
          2. +2
            18 2014 June
            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            Somehow it does not fit! Ukraine is Rus (I will add that in this Rus already the master of the United States) and at the same time, it is necessary to "blow the water." Decide already.
            Dear Alexander, I will answer you in the order of the questions posed. Ukraine is Rus, as a historical fact, our roots and core, this is Kievan Rus. Ukraine, as a state, an absurd entity that contradicts its Russian essence, a statehood sucked out of the finger, the whole purpose of which is the creation of Anti-Russia in the Russian historical core, a kind of "antibody" nurtured and grafted to defend the West against Russia. Destroying the Russians and the historical truth, now they make "great" Galicia out of Ukraine, which used to be a second-rate slavery under Poland. The fact that the United States is in charge of Russian soil, so we did not have to be blind and deaf to what was happening under our noses in recent years. Novorossia is the last Russian bastions that cannot be given to the enemy.
            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            Direct collision - nuclear disaster
            The United States should not doubt that Russia will use nuclear weapons, and all of North America will become a solid nuclear desert, separated by the ocean. We do not need their lands as prey. If you are a pacifist here, with environmental morality, you can immediately give up.

            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            In Ukraine, we have people from the USA and Russia. And they are fighting against each other. We are just in the role of Vietnam.
            Do not compare with Vietnam, and it is not even close. Moreover, we recognized Poroshenko, that is, the junta, Dill, but did not recognize the Republic of Novorossia. We supplied the junta with gas, actually for free (by offering preferential prices), helping them to survive, and the junta cut off not only gas, even electricity and drinking water in Novorossiya. Military assistance by volunteers ... This is despite the fact that in our country they actually fall under the law as terrorist mercenaries, in addition, the customs and border guards can slow down volunteers "for unpaid fines." It is generally better to keep silent about legal specialists, instructors and heavy equipment, where is all this ...
            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            And the last thing: how did the "blowing into the water" end with Hitler, remember?
            I remember that if Stalin had “blown on the water”, the June 1941 pogrom would not have happened. Nobody bothered us to keep our units on high alert and in wartime states. No one forced, instead of a protective buffer, troops and undeveloped equipment to be unloaded onto the newly annexed hostile territories.
            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            Yes, Hitler would say that the USSR is preparing to attack him and attacked
            Hitler attacked, as we did and "did not give in to provocations." I would have received it on time on the snatch, they would have shot down the same insolent reconnaissance planes, perhaps, and would have preferred not to risk an army ready for defense.
            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            Was it worth "blowing on the water" and licking the ass?
            Licking ass was definitely not worth it, but it was precisely the desire not to offend and not provoke "licking" and reminiscent, just like now.
            1. 0
              18 2014 June
              Quote: Per se.
              New Russia - the last Russian bastions that can not be given to the enemy.

              I completely agree, as well as everything on this site. So we decided. It remains to decide what method does not give it away.
              Quote: Per se.
              The United States should not doubt that Russia will use nuclear weapons, and all of North America will become a solid nuclear desert, separated by the ocean. We do not need their lands as prey. If you are a pacifist here, with environmental morality, you can immediately give up.

              And then they decided - they will turn up, which means they will disappear in a nuclear fire. From here the conclusion is that a direct collision will be avoided from both sides.
              Quote: Per se.
              Do not compare with Vietnam, and not close comparison

              Okay I will not. Yes
              Quote: Per se.
              I remember that if Stalin had “blown on the water”, the June 1941 pogrom would not have happened. Nobody bothered us to keep our units on high alert and in wartime states.
              "Blow on the water" is: to carry out partial mobilization (wartime states), enter readiness number 1 and withdraw units to combat positions? Not the usual interpretation ..... And I thought it was just aggressive actions. Well .... if so, I propose that Russia complete wartime units and enter readiness number 1, as well as enter targets into all ICBMs and deploy troops ready to strike. wassat I doubt that it will be called "blowing on the water", faster than the aggression of an inappropriate Putin.
              Quote: Per se.
              I would get it on time on the hill, they would start to shoot down the same impudent reconnaissance planes, maybe I would rather not risk it before the army ready for defense.

              hi How about to warm Ukraine on a hill? We will recall the ambassador, we will block the oxygen, we will send their workers back, let them sit, etc. I'm all for it!
              Quote: Per se.
              but it is precisely the desire not to offend and not to provoke "licking" and reminding, just as now

              Agree, when the GDP is covered with matyuk and hooligans at the embassy, ​​and Russia is doing away with soft wagging, it looks like it was dropped with impunity! I would impose sanctions and break off relations even for burning the flag of Russia.
        2. +1
          18 2014 June
          And what sanctions could be imposed on a country that is not integrated into the world economy? The USSR was self-sufficient. Everything that was produced in the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries was consumed all at once. This was called the planned economy. The state calculated what and how much should be produced and to whom it should be put on the shelves. Yes it worked with squeaks. But it worked. Probably the reason was that it was difficult to conduct a thorough calculation of all needs. Maybe having the powerful computing power that is available now, maybe it would work better. But this is speculation. Now Russia is integrated. Much is not produced here, but a lot is consumed. Here's how to pull ourselves together and make us work for real, and not knock out grandmothers, then you can not be afraid of sanctions! In general, changing paper with Lincoln to human life is just as mean as that!
      2. -2
        18 2014 June
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        If the United States, for example, introduces troops into Ukraine and New Russia,

        and where the US will take troops on the European theater of operations, a stupid question?
        1. +1
          18 2014 June
          Quote: Egen
          and where the US will take troops on the European theater of operations, a stupid question?

          I repeat my statement:
          Quote: TAMERLAN 7
          If the USA for example will send troops to Ukraine and Novorossiya, what, will Russia deliver a nuclear strike against the United States or will send troops into the forehead?

          A purely hypothetical assumption to show that there will be no open collision.
          The US is fighting against Russia in Ukraine at the hands of Ukrainians. Many of those who are now driven to Novorossia do not want to fight, but who will ask them? Why would they send troops. They, like Russia, act from behind the curtains.
          1. 0
            18 2014 June
            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            The United States is fighting against Russia in Ukraine at the hands of Ukrainians.

            rabble - and even an organized crowd - far from being the professional troops of the Americans :(
            1. 0
              18 2014 June
              Quote: Egen
              ford - and even an organized crowd - far from being the professional troops of the Americans :(

              The United States is very sensitive to casualties. Why bother your voters again? But there are many Ukrainians ....
          2. koshh
            0
            18 2014 June
            Quote: TAMERLAN 7
            The United States is fighting against Russia in Ukraine at the hands of Ukrainians.


            And not only, but CIA officers, and specialists, is it not presence, is it not a war against Russia, against our specialists. It’s just that in our time, wars in a region such as Europe cannot go any different way, especially since the enemy is Russia. These are not Arab countries with their illiterate natives. Otherwise, world war.
      3. +2
        18 2014 June
        Quote: TAMERLAN 7
        Quote: Echelon
        USA went all-in


        What did they do to us in the "Cuban missile crisis"? Kenedy sat and thought and began negotiations.


        Well then, Khrushchev behaved differently, he did not keep silent in a rag, and with a boot he beat on the platform at the UN.
      4. 0
        19 2014 June
        The problem is that today there are few in the US leadership who have "sat and thought." Alas.
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    5. +2
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Echelon
      USA went all-in. So let them go, we also have trump cards in our sleeves,
      And what trump cards do we have? Don’t tell me.
    6. +1
      18 2014 June
      It should be clear to everyone that the United States went all-in, and all calls for negotiations, round tables, all kinds of concessions will bring the matter to the point that after a maximum of 10 years the Russians will have to fight on their own territory.

      The author correctly noted. Snitch is not the time. There is no turning back. Just a fight ... for survival.
    7. 0
      18 2014 June
      Poroshenko speech at the Ivan Chernyakhovsky National University of Defense of Ukraine at ceremonies dedicated to the graduation of students of the operational-strategic and operational-tactical training levels and the 100th anniversary of the beginning of the training of military specialists:
      - "Ukraine is at the stage of war.

      “This is a new type of war, using professional, sabotage groups, mercenaries, volunteers, and the local population. And these volunteers and the local population have very brainwashed. With a large component of the information war, "
      - “We met a war with naked, barefoot and unarmed soldiers”,
      -"We will win. We will win through a larger organization, a deeper strategic vision and, most importantly, strong support from our people. High patriotism, cohesion and mobilization of Ukrainian society created the basis for the unconditional victory of Ukraine, for the establishment of peace throughout the territory of our state ”
      http://www.unian.net/politics/930025-ukraina-nahoditsya-v-stadii-voynyi-no-pobed
      it-poroshenko.html
      http://news.mail.ru/inworld/ukraina/politics/18586312/?frommail=1

      Hello, GARAGE ....
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Russian President Vladimir Putin held a telephone conversation today with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and focused on the need for unconditional security of media representatives in Ukraine, said Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for the Russian head of state.

        "The heads of state discussed topical issues of bilateral Russian-Ukrainian relations. The topic of a possible ceasefire in the area of ​​hostilities in the south-east of Ukraine was touched upon," Peskov said.

        "Vladimir Putin expressed concern over the tragic death of Russian journalists in the Lugansk region and focused on the need to unconditionally ensure the safety of media representatives working in Ukraine in the conflict zone," Peskov stressed.

        "Petro Poroshenko expressed his condolences in connection with the death of representatives of the Russian media and assured Putin that an appropriate investigation will be carried out on his instructions, as well as the necessary measures will be taken to ensure the safety of journalists," the press secretary of the Russian president said.
    8. MIA1978
      0
      18 2014 June
      Trumps are good ...
      Only the United States conducts all-in wagons in other territories and often with the wrong hands ...
      You need to hit the patient, the US money is their death ... but their $ is in good demand ... it's like a drug ... it's hard to quit)))
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    10. 0
      18 2014 June
      I add, with Uncle Vova poker can only play self-confident nerds.
  2. Dbnfkmtdbx
    +19
    18 2014 June
    And I already said in previous comments, let's ask the Americans a little boy, they want a war war, let’s fight, we just need to explain to morons that after that there will be nothing of them not geyrops, but about Russia Wang spoke out with Casey and fought against such states in partisan not solid, let's go open and see who is first described angry
    1. +7
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Dbnfkmtdbx
      let's open and see who is first described


      To be afraid is late. Afraid - Stupid

      The demonstration of "Mother Kuzma 0.2" can be added to the one proposed by the author. Then the West will definitely start enuresis
    2. +3
      18 2014 June
      I support. I believe that the biggest enemy for Russia is the internal one. If we get involved in the war with Ukraine, the consequences will be catastrophic. First, what is the purpose? Reach Kiev? To tear off territories (even in favor of YuVS in the likeness of South Ossetia and Abkhazia)? As a result, a complete economic blockade of most countries. The strongest diplomatic and economic pressure. Including will turn away from us and Lukashenko, who after the Crimea looks askance. The result will be the discontent of citizens and individual republics. Provoking a conflict will be a simple matter. It may sound cynical, but a military operation in Ukraine allows us to do the same in our territory in case of mass unrest, referring to this incident. The West will be forced to de facto accept this. And if we recapture the South-East, the suppression of internal conflicts with the use of troops will be a clear manifestation of the double standards in which Russia accuses the West. And as long as the current values ​​of Western civilization exist with us, no one will fight.
      1. +6
        18 2014 June
        the goal is to destroy the sprouted fascism, but then you still need to do it.
      2. +2
        18 2014 June
        Arguments who minus, otherwise this is the approach of a cheap troll.
        1. 0
          18 2014 June
          Quote: Dyagilev
          Arguments who minus, otherwise this is the approach of a cheap troll.

          I didn’t pass, but Vadim explain the further actions then, the author has some conclusions
        2. 0
          18 2014 June
          Why argue? Maybe he himself, before writing carefully to think, and not write a loosely coupled set of phrases. By the way, also unreasoned. Superficial does not count!
      3. koshh
        0
        18 2014 June
        Quote: Dyagilev
        And if we recapture the South-East, the suppression of internal conflicts with the use of troops will be a clear manifestation of the double standards in which Russia accuses the West.


        And where on the territory of Russia do you think the use of military operations is possible? Fortunately or unfortunately, we have experience in military operations on our territory. Two Chechen wars, I see, taught our security forces something. In Dagestan, FSB experts and the local police work against the militants. Kadyrov is doing pretty well in Chechnya. Where else in Russia do we have hot spots for military operations? But on the territory of a neighboring state there is a positive experience of military operations - Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia. The so-called decline to the world.
    3. +11
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Dbnfkmtdbx
      let's ask patsansky Americans

      Thank God that the leadership of our country has no "boys"!
    4. MBA78
      +2
      18 2014 June
      everything is cunningly woven ... here you need a dragon kiss
      1. +2
        18 2014 June
        Quote: MBA78
        everything is cunningly woven ... here you need a dragon kiss

        Pull up! Apply!
    5. +2
      18 2014 June
      If you would fight in the United States, then it is possible in a patsansky way. And so they again destroy both Europe and half of Russia, as it has already been two times.
    6. -1
      18 2014 June
      What to ask America? It is necessary to deliver a nuclear strike and put an end to the creatures, otherwise they will strike. They will grab the southeast further on to Crimea and Moscow, grab the snot enough to chew. Save the Russians, send troops.
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    1. +13
      18 2014 June
      Quote: N7 Wanderer
      Putya, ch.mo you are a pseudo-KGB-noe, how much can all be so crap? Strauss, yeah. Type put a little head, do not appear in public, and the mustache rassosetsi by itself ????

      Calm down before it's too late. One such dill, Ramzan already took a pencil!
      1. -2
        18 2014 June
        Quote: GSH-18
        One such dill, Ramzan already took a pencil!
        GS Ramzan also probably took you for a pencil. Well, you regularly admit his love to him on a regular basis. Maybe a golden GS will give, or a golden laptop? wassat
    2. +1
      18 2014 June
      Comrade Zhirinovsky is not your relative by accident?
    3. zoomslon
      +7
      18 2014 June
      Political chess is not a sport in which emotional decisions are acceptable.
      1. -2
        18 2014 June
        Quote: zoomslon
        Political chess is not a sport in which emotional decisions are acceptable.
        Well, why ...... Sometimes emotional decisions are very unexpected for the opponent. wassat
    4. +4
      18 2014 June
      Would be silent too, "brave, anika warrior"! At least one war passed, not at the computer, but in reality? Shouting all a lot, if you don't like it - go volunteer for the SE! Show yourself (unless Strelkov sends trenches to dig for empty chatter) !!!
  4. +11
    18 2014 June
    The United States planned a soft conquest of Ukraine, But since Yanukovych began the national Ukrainian fun, lay down for the one who pays the most (negotiations with the EU, and at the same time with the Eurozone), Russia offered more - and since the United States could not allow Ukraine to join the customs union (the agreement with Ukraine de in fact, it was precisely to them) We decided how Ostap Bender to throw pieces (the revolution was arranged in a hurry, with a bunch of punctures)! In response, they got a chessboard on the head (Crimea)
  5. +10
    18 2014 June
    I liked the mention of air raids that are not considered aggression !!!))) good
    1. MBA78
      +2
      18 2014 June
      first thing on mount karachun
    2. +1
      18 2014 June
      It seems that soon something will happen. It is not in vain that they started talking about the no-fly zone in the Duma and the troops again went to the border.
  6. +10
    18 2014 June
    I think the author is exaggerating ... but it is necessary to think, Russia will not be able to remain silent
    1. MBA78
      +2
      18 2014 June
      in the article everything around but doesn’t get ... wants to try to find out but how to fail
    2. pvn53
      0
      18 2014 June
      The colors have thickened, and for a long time. If we wait for everything to resolve itself, then there will be nothing good either for the southeast or for Russia. There is a war against us, and we can’t sit aside.
    3. pvn53
      0
      18 2014 June
      The colors have thickened, and for a long time. If we wait for everything to resolve itself, then there will be nothing good either for the southeast or for Russia. There is a war against us, and we can’t sit aside.
  7. +11
    18 2014 June
    As long as we are being ruled by oligarchs who have money in the west, Russia will not have the will to fight, and while industry works for these oligarchs there will be no money.
  8. +9
    18 2014 June
    The article is good! But a lesson has also been learned from the Ukrainian crisis! And the lines about Belarusians and Kazakhs are somewhat hasty, dill has always been easy to behold and has paid off, because it breaks where it is thin, dill and darted, because they are always not happy and we are always to blame!
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  9. +6
    18 2014 June
    The author did not understand the events ... if he writes, then there would be no longer DNR and LC.
    It would be so simple, it would be funny and fun.
    Outwardly simple and seemed obvious, the solution is not always correct over time.
  10. 0
    18 2014 June
    "Then Kazakhstan - N. Nazarbayev is old, after his departure the" color revolution "will inevitably start."
    - oh, now Cher will write ... hi wink
    1. 0
      18 2014 June
      belay what interesting and "-" is from whom and for what :))
  11. +7
    18 2014 June
    I agree with the author. We must act offensively. The price of oil is rising. It should be made so that it grows even faster. The United States has three theaters of operations - Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Stop talking about the Islamic threat. I do not believe that the Taliban can do any harm to Russia. Help them and talk about peace with Islam. The Middle East - Iraq, everything is very confused, maybe you should break the stereotypes and remember that the enemy is the enemy, a potential ally. Chaly and Strelkov spoke well of the former Ukraine.
    1. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: vladim.gorbunow
      Stop talking about the Islamic threat. I do not believe that the Taliban can do any harm to Russia.

      In general, different religions - ultimately lead to nothing good, but
      Quote: vladim.gorbunow
      Middle East - Iraq, everything is very confused, maybe you should break the stereotypes and remember that the enemy of the enemy, a potential ally

      - I agree with this, why Russia does not look at it? Like with Syria ... helped, but - further?
    2. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: vladim.gorbunow
      I do not believe that the Taliban can do any harm to Russia. Help them and talk about peace with Islam

      The Taliban are not much better than banderlogs. Your proposal will lead to the feeding of the next Benlad in our hands. Then these hands will be bitten off. The North Caucasus will not be delighted with flirting with the Mujahideen, who still pour blood there. The enemy of the enemy was Gaddafi, Hussein, Chavez, Castro. I’m afraid to use them to save the New Russians, it will be difficult even for shamans.
  12. +12
    18 2014 June
    from the Don.
    Yes, all these words are far from the people, especially young people. Almost everyone is infected with consumerism, many with a drum. And I have no doubt that they are ready to fight, only the lower classes who have nothing to lose, who are content with little, are used to getting out of any position. , middle class, officials at all levels, almost all are not capable of this. Not to mention the tops of the government and money bags!
    1. +4
      18 2014 June
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      Almost all are infected by consumerism

      Is that all? There are still people living only in spiritual values! smile
  13. +5
    18 2014 June
    Of course, the author "thickened" the colors, but in some ways he is right: the war is not overseas, but on the threshold of our house! When a neighbor's house is burning, the whole village extinguishes the fire so as not to become "fire victims" themselves! But the "vague" policy of our leadership begins to lead to hard-hitting reflections, and suddenly they really merge us ... No, it's time to make very important decisions in order to prevent the "transfer of fire" to our land! (which is what our so-called "partners" in the USA dream of so much)
  14. +4
    18 2014 June
    I practically agree with the layout and conclusion of the author, with the exception of one:

    "The first version, semi-official, voiced by Lieutenant General of the KGB N. Leonov:" Russia does not have the forces now that would allow it to take such a risky and dangerous step, having against itself all of Europe and the United States. It would be suicidal for the Russian state itself. "

    - everyone only considers Russia separately, but why then did they create the Eurasian Union so quickly and why would its flag be necessary if troops were not entered under it? This is another matter!

    - China is not mentioned in any scenario. It is clear that the Chinese are biding their time, looking at the "sandbox", but so it is necessary to pull them into it - which they began by signing a gas contract - but so far with only one "bucket". And China is wow! :)

    Comrades who object, I ask you to give your hands and conclusions and not just + or -, this is not interesting ...
    1. +5
      18 2014 June
      China will not climb, especially since the Rothschild family is now actively betting on China to bring down $.
      This, in fact, is alarming, usually when these two families (the Rothschilds / Rockefellers) share the sandbox, world wars happen.
      1. +1
        18 2014 June
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        China will not climb, especially since the Rothschild family is now actively betting on China to bring down $.

        There is such a version, but there is another one - that China doesn’t do it for itself # ak, starts to start its game ...
    2. 0
      18 2014 June
      The second front in this case (as well as in others) will appear only after we win the Kursk Bulge and enter Europe victoriously. As always, you will have to start and take all the weight alone.
  15. +9
    18 2014 June
    Recognize the DPR and LPR, conclude a mutual assistance agreement and openly, formally implement effective military assistance with volunteers and weapons. In no case do not recognize the results of the coup in Kiev and the fake presidential elections in Ukraine. Establish a no-fly zone over eastern Ukraine. .... deliver air strikes against accumulations of armored vehicles and artillery of the Kiev regime, ...


    + + + + +
    1. 0
      18 2014 June
      Alas, the liberal president not only recognized the border elections. He spent days talking with Poroshenko on the phone
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Minus for Putin talking with Poroshenko? So it's not my fault, he calls him himself.
      2. +1
        18 2014 June
        Quote: Gardamir
        Alas, the liberal president not only recognized the border elections. He spent days talking with Poroshenko on the phone

        Here I will support Leonid and a little retreat from the topic. They reported about a conversation between VV P and Poros about the deaths of journalists.
        Comrades, I also feel sorry for the journalists. BUT
        It turns out somehow IMHO ... jarring, understand correctly ... the journalists died - in large letters on the TV inscription - TRAGEDY. Once again, I’m sorry for the guys, but what happens, 2 journalist died - a tragedy, and that hundreds of civilians are dying - no? What is it that we get journalists some kind of higher caste, untouchable, you can’t shoot at them ?! - Yes, it’s impossible, PRESS, I agree, but there was PEACEFUL POPULATION nearby, and the whole militia was still farther on the set of the 1, and they were mortars, it means it’s impossible for journalists and for the people, this is not a tragedy ?!
        And the official conversation between VV P and Pig - ... "look there ..." - "yes, we are investigating ..." - some kind of farce, honestly! Again, hundreds of people die - this is not a reason for investigation, but 2 journalists - yes, no, no! So kill ordinary people for health, right ?! And this is the position BB P!
        Well, well, even if we assume that they will find a switchman of some kind of flying, well, will they fire him or put him to the wall? Yes, even so, and for what - for the murder of 2 journalists? Which accidentally covered? And the fact that they shot something at the population, and killed a lot of peaceful people - they won’t ask about it ...
        Finally - and who is responsible for the fire and for the actions of the militants, if not their commander in chief?
        It's a shame for Russia however :(
  16. +17
    18 2014 June
    First of all, Putin needs to address the people with a speech, explain his position, say what risks there are, etc. The time has come, further pulling is already more expensive. If decisive action is needed, so let's get started, we will all support the president.
    1. +2
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Thought Giant
      First of all, Putin needs to address the people with a speech, explain his position, say what are the risks,

      I think it's time, we’ve been waiting.
    2. wrm
      wrm
      +1
      18 2014 June
      As I see the sequence of operations with the introduction of troops:
      1. The announcement by criminals of those who give criminal orders, and which can be proved. There are not many such people, but enough
      2. Enter the troops. Surely to Kiev. And with such a pressure that the army of the juna itself would run away - the less blood, the better. I don’t know how to do this.
      3. Captivate previously announced criminals. If you run away, nothing changes, the strings of the puppets are cut off. The fact of escape is positioned as an escape from the Hague Tribunal.
      4. Stick Yanukovych back (well, not Tymoshenko). What to do next, I do not know ...
      1. Praetorian
        0
        18 2014 June
        Oh, and you write nonsense. Will you go to Kiev to fight?
        1. wrm
          wrm
          0
          18 2014 June
          I am not talking about war, but about peace enforcement. It should go like in Georgia. The flight of the army. Planning and analyzing the success of such a procession is beyond my competence. If there is a possibility of turning the procession into a war, then this option does not roll. And yes, I’m ready to fight, and not necessarily in Kiev, but only to be shoulder to shoulder with someone who is obliged to fight for the interests of the country and people
        2. 0
          19 2014 June
          Quote: Praetorian
          Oh, and you write nonsense. Will you go to Kiev to fight?

          Hmm, Alexei, why - "nonsense"?
          Quote: wrm
          Send troops. Surely to Kiev.

          This is a natural strategic task, only in the DPR and LPR - the issue will be resolved only partially and temporarily.
          Quote: wrm
          And with such pressure that the army of the juna itself would run away - the less blood, the better. I don’t know how to do this.

          Yes, it’s elementary to plan at least the Germans in 40 France (and Belgium) like. I don’t make a concrete plan now, I have experience with the state of our forces and assets alas in the Soviet Army :(
          Quote: Praetorian
          Will you go to Kiev to fight?

          Well, if you take it in old age - why not :) But I think we have some who have been running better than me with a machine gun for a long time, and who thinks me clearer :(
  17. Opinion-8888
    +5
    18 2014 June
    Rumor has it that the denouement is scheduled for autumn. If an adequate response from Russia does not follow in the fall, then Putin will become a political corpse.
  18. +3
    18 2014 June
    Quote: vsoltan
    I think the author is exaggerating ... but it is necessary to think, Russia will not be able to remain silent

    And no one is silent. Watch the news on TV.
    1. -2
      18 2014 June
      Quote: GSH-18
      And no one is silent.
      Of course, Petya and Vova make a bazaar on the phone, one of them gives condolences, and the other probably praises the candy, "Roshen" which. wassat
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Quote: baltika-18
        Of course, Petya and Vova make a bazaar on the phone, one of them gives condolences, and the other probably praises the candy, "Roshen" which.


        Dear, you seem to have confused the sites. You, with your views on contemporary Russia and its leadership, should go to Slon.ru or to the Echo of Moscow website. Here, on VO, you will be minus mercilessly! lol
  19. +3
    18 2014 June
    In this situation, the creation of a military bloc of Russia and China will immediately put the West and Stripes in place and change the whole balance of power
    1. +1
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Mviktor
      In this situation, the creation of a military bloc of Russia and China will immediately put the West and Stripes in place and change the whole balance of power

      Do you think that the Chinese are asleep and see, How to make war in Ukraine? Unlikely. An alliance with China will be possible only when everything is settled, and that is not a fact. In the meantime, this is our, and only our business. And as always "against everyone."
  20. +5
    18 2014 June
    Quote: GSH-18
    Quote: N7 Wanderer
    Putya, ch.mo you are a pseudo-KGB-noe, how much can all be so crap? Strauss, yeah. Type put a little head, do not appear in public, and the mustache rassosetsi by itself ????

    Calm down before it's too late. One such dill, Ramzan already took a pencil!

    What nah dill? You yourself are dill. I live in the Urals. It is not necessary for those people who really look at things - namely, indiscriminately write down the drainage of Novorossia into belolentochniki and 5th column. Blindly believing and yelling about "genius" and "cunning plans" is stupid, because they do not exist. No genius, no plans. None. Otherwise, all 23 years of the transformation of Ukraine into dill, into a Bandera-fascist state, they would not have missed and would not even have allowed it. If there were plans and strategies. Or at least genius. Not to mention the fact that at least the coup itself could not have been overlooked and prevented.
    1. +6
      18 2014 June
      And ... you are from the Urals. Then you probably do not know what to call the President of the country in which you live by derogatory nicknames is not accepted in our decent society. And about the lack of plans and their implementation, it’s boring to answer, unless you suggest that you compare the situation in Russia, in all areas in the 2000s and 2014s.
      1. Opinion-8888
        +2
        18 2014 June
        Well, Putin's defenders are on guard! I have been observing for a long time that every criticism about Putin does not necessarily go unanswered. And it's always the same. Nothing new: "Compare how it was in the 90s and how it is now" "Putin, his own father, stopped the theft of resources." And it never occurred to you that any more or less sane leader had to do it! He needed to feed the people, elementary! We don't play heroes when we feed our family members! This is our responsibility!
        Are we only worthy of being thankful only for not being robbed as much as before!
        What are Medvedev's confessions that "we were lazy all this time" - These are his recent words. Just think about it! And this is said by the former president and head of government with impunity! And he will get nothing for it! Nobody will ask for this!
        I am not a fan of power, I do not actively accept it! But, I understand the danger of swamp and liberals coming to power!

        Therefore, I think that all patriots and simply citizens of the country in which we live, need to be more active, make claims to the authorities, participate in the life of their city, village, school, kindergarten, etc.
        1. 0
          18 2014 June
          Quote: Opinion-8888
          I am not a fan of power, I do not actively accept it! But, I understand the danger of swamp and liberals coming to power!

          Bad law is still better than lawlessness. The same can be said of power. Besides, I don’t like today's vlaz - bring the candidate better! Marsh only about the overthrow of the balonobili, and no adequate programs and candidates could not put up.
          Quote: Opinion-8888
          Therefore, I think that all patriots and simply citizens of the country in which we live, need to be more active, make claims to the authorities, participate in the life of their city, village, school, kindergarten, etc.

          Well, or at least in my family!
          Definitely +
    2. +2
      18 2014 June
      Quote: N7 Wanderer
      No genius, no plans. None. Otherwise, all 23 years of the transformation of Ukraine into dill, into the Bandera-Fascist state-would not have blinked and would not have allowed.
      Wanderer, you're right.
    3. Andrey der Graf
      +6
      18 2014 June
      Are you all right away? The USA has been subversive in Ukraine for several decades. It all began with dissident literature on the Holodomor, etc. back in the 80s. Do you want to resolve the issue in a couple of days?
      And the situation in Ukraine did not arise in the last 23 years, but has been there for a long time. At least since the beginning of the 19th century, the ideas of Grushevsky have been promoted.
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Quote: Andrey der Graf


        Are you all right away? The USA has been subversive in Ukraine for several decades.


        Well, why immediately? Please remind me of the actions of the Russian authorities against the subversive activities of the USA in Ukraine over the past ten years.
        After all, it was impossible for several decades not to notice the subversive activities of the United States at hand. So where is our answer, well, at least over the past five years? ... Well, at least in three years? ... Well, remind me of something in a year ...
      2. +1
        18 2014 June
        Quote: Andrey der Graf
        The USA has been subversive in Ukraine for several decades. It all began with dissident literature on the Holodomor, etc. back in the 80s.

        And what prevented us from conducting our propaganda? Or interfere? We stopped teaching our children normally! USE is a shame for the nation. But a bunch of ministries and institutions with culture and education.
    4. zzz
      zzz
      +1
      18 2014 June
      Quote: N7 Wanderer
      Blindly believing and yelling about "genius" and "cunning plans" is stupid, because they do not exist. No genius, no plans. None.


      Unfortunately, also gradually from the beginning of the Maidan I begin to come to the same thought .... Impromptu only with the Crimea?
    5. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: N7 Wanderer
      It is not necessary for those people who really look at things - namely, to drain by the way of Novorossia indiscriminately write down in the white pillars and the 5th column.

      Not at all indiscriminately!
      Before you write, turn on your head - this is useful.
      I am a patriot of my country, and I like (in general) the political course pursued by my president (I am not claiming that everything is absolutely wonderful and brilliant). But I am categorically against various "inclinations" and "entry from the rear", indicating to the electorate that he was mistaken in the presidential elections!
  21. footballist87
    +9
    18 2014 June
    In general, the author is right to declare to the whole world that the genocide of Russians is not only a matter of Ukraine, but also of Russia, because if there are national interests of the USA in Ukraine, then it is even more .... Recognize the LPR and the DPR primarily with sides of our allies, because they take loans without such harsh conditions as the IMF gives, and then we, but quickly, have no time .... And open deliveries of everything that is needed .... Rogozin recently said, like they criticize me for mine statements, but since I was in Brussels, I know that they don’t understand another language .... God forbid, if the LPR and the DPR are crushed, the country will have a great decline in spirit, and wait until winter that the riot begins in Ukraine, the fact that we have time .... And the main thing, when Maidan began under Yanukovych, they all thieves with money fell from Ukraine, and the oligarchs showed the essence ... So we have to have nationalization or .... they will hand over Putin and they won’t choke .... Do V.V. Putin what to do, otherwise all this scum will not regret you ....
  22. -1
    18 2014 June
    It’s time for Russia to appear in all directions, our media in the world is not audible. In Google, for example, a bunch of Ukrainian sites. For gas, a few concessions ... and so on. Information we lose for sure. Ukraine is our pain, but the feeling of our inaction. Russia - ay ... where are you ...
  23. +3
    18 2014 June
    Wasn't that what the "brilliant leader and teacher" demanded from his military in 1941? And how did it end?

    It ended with the fact that we had to fight only with the Nazis. In the worst case, the Anglo-Saxons would have helped them.

    Some argue that in order to overcome the crisis, the United States needs a war, which they are trying to provoke with the hands of the Kiev putschists. But at the same time they forget that to overcome the financial and economic crisis, a global war is needed - only with it the economy can be transferred to a mobilization regime.


    “The absence of major wars can damage economic growth” (c) NYT
  24. +3
    18 2014 June
    In this situation, as outlined by the author, the GDP will not have a grave. He is waiting for the fate of Gaddafi. He, too, decided that the West and mattresses would no longer spread rot on him. everyone remembers how it ended. But here is what is encouraging. If we understand this, then the GDP also dare to assure you, it also thinks about it. No.
  25. +1
    18 2014 June
    War is still inevitable (unfortunately) meaning the third world war.
    1. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      War is still inevitable (unfortunately) meaning the third world war.

      But you can try to postpone it (the war) for a couple of thousand years? Or let's stupidly kill ourselves against the wall, right now ???
  26. nixto
    +2
    18 2014 June
    a simple fit of rash facts and conjectures
  27. +2
    18 2014 June
    The nuclear SHIELD is and is being updated, so there is no need to raise the butch.
    Now explain why we should go to war to Ukraine for the sake of those who, in turn, happily disconnected from us?
    1. 0
      18 2014 June
      "The nuclear SHIELD exists and is being updated, so there is no need to raise a storm.
      Explain why we must go to war against Ukraine for the sake of those who, in turn, happily disconnected from us? "At least in order to fight outside of Russia. The nuclear shield does not work in any way in" local conflicts "and secondly, so that the same Ukraine thinks Isn't it worth it to remain neutral.A tough response in South Ossetia put an end to a new conflict in the North Caucasus, although it did not make South Ossetia Russia.Ukrainians want to live separately, and it’s important for them not to be enemies, no? but if they become then and measures must be adequate
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Well, you can get by with unofficial help? Which goes both by people and by "means".
  28. nator78
    -1
    18 2014 June
    The President and Co. expect that the situation will resolve itself, and if it does not resolve it all right, the main thing is not to touch them. The oligarchs rule the Russian Federation!
  29. hoard
    +2
    18 2014 June
    "The war with the United States has already begun. The Americans have seized almost all of Ukraine - a buffer state, which was the foreground for the Russian Armed Forces. A geopolitical catastrophe, comparable to 1941, has occurred."
    So do not write like that. This is a substitution of concepts, i.e. - False. There is no war with the USA, there is a geopolitical confrontation. These are different things. Such phrases put pressure on people and introduce the idea that the war has really begun. And then people start a real war. The article works to foment war, it is against the law. Afftoru - a categorical failure!
  30. +5
    18 2014 June
    "it's too late to be afraid", or rather, Russia made a choice by recognizing the Crimean referendum. slipping will help nothing and nobody. there have been many high-profile statements in recent months, where are they? abandonment of the dollar, national payment system, etc. and where? Yes, you can't do it all at once, but the lack of information is often equal to the lack of facts, I would like to be wrong. let's say someone does not consider the Ukrainians to be a fraternal people. I disagree with that, but let's say. then all the more reasons to support Donbass. if you do not stop the hostilities in Ukraine, they will soon spread to Russia or Belarus, and maybe Kazakhstan. and "united" Bandera Ukraine will not only be a bridgehead, do you want? but the main danger is not there, and not even in America. the main danger in Moscow. swamp plague just reflects the opinion of big business, the so-called oligarchs, that's what is dangerous
  31. KC4E
    0
    18 2014 June
    Quote: Egen

    - everyone only considers Russia separately, but why then did they create the Eurasian Union so quickly and why would its flag be necessary if troops were not entered under it? This is another matter!

    - China is not mentioned in any scenario

    There is hope for Belarus, from Kazakhstan - I’m not sure if they are weak, but I don’t believe China.
  32. Lenar
    +5
    18 2014 June
    I have been visiting this site for a long time, but after seeing this article, I decided to register and write: "And here's the hell to you, who seriously hopes for the capture and destruction of Russia."
    1. +1
      18 2014 June
      horseradish is a good seasoning for meat, the destruction of Ukraine is already underway. both there and many of us are waiting, apparently the queues ... unfortunately
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  33. +2
    18 2014 June
    America is already too late to fight with us. You can fight with "brainwashed" countries with someone else's hands.
    And in Russia, the white-tape movement is still weak. Personally, I am for not judging them, but it’s significant to roll them into the asphalt. But this is only my personal opinion.
    America is weakening. Her authority is rapidly falling.
    In the event of a direct encounter, a pair of crushing preventive strikes will forever defeat any attempts to enslave Russia from the pedostan.
  34. +2
    18 2014 June
    Another veiled, with a claim to rationality, pushing Russia into a war with the Slavic people. In the USA, you are kind. This is a conflict of Ukraine, a state separate from Russia. They themselves must figure it out and figure it out. With the intervention of the US and Russia, each supports its own side. That's only we support relying on the truth, and the United States relying on the lies of Psaki an example.
  35. +1
    18 2014 June
    Time really doesn’t really wait.
  36. +10
    18 2014 June
    Around one hot head. Do you think at least a year in advance? You say there is no victory in Iraq, in Libya, in Afghanistan ... You are mistaken. Americans won there when they annulled OUR gas, oil and construction contracts with their rulers. They have achieved their goal. They made a peace deal with local terrorists, and they themselves pump resources. And they wanted to shit on the people of the captured country. For them, the victory of the idea of ​​democracy is not a victory, but a victory, say, of communism for us in Afghanistan. They do not care about the idea. They do not build schools, except on camera, one for 10 million people. Only resources and a geostrategic advantage, the ability to build bases and surround enemies (us). They won, you are my hot-headed friends.

    Now they have finally reached Russia. For them (EU / US), we are just a HUGE tasty, juicy piece of meat for which you can go to ANY dirty things. You see, they don't care about phosphorus, about bombs on civilians in the city center, they don't care about anything. It will not help the media shouting at RU that Ukraine was the first to attack us, and we answered. Nobody listens to us, you can see it yourself. It will not help to prove to deaf and blind Europeans that we have here actually fascism in full and camps are already being built for those who disagree. Now one thing is expected of us - to act as an attacking side. ALL! Their hands are untied! Their media will quickly correct our motives and everything, gentlemen, NATO and the United States can overthrow Putin as a dictator. You say nuclear weapons will save us. Will not save. There will be no direct blow to us and there will be no one to answer. We will be trampled on by "Ukrainians" who speak English and Arabic, and "Russians" like our opposition, who, by the way, also speak English.

    Now cut your hot brain, what really can be done. It’s right to help the southeast with all my strength, which is probably done, because I do not believe that the junta is so armless that it cannot enter Slavyansk with all its arsenal and squeeze out a militia corny amount. I DO NOT BELIEVE! So our Vova is doing everything right, stop whining. He had never messed up yet, and here the question of the life and death of our Russian world was at stake. He understands that a loss will cost him either his life or his political career and all his merits in the 15 years that he is at the helm. Believe your leader or bring down the opposition and put on a white ribbon.
    1. +1
      18 2014 June
      In the first two paragraphs, plus. According to the third ... Do not capture the city because they do not need the population. They will bomb until the people are destroyed, someone escapes to Russia, someone is destroyed. Survivors will be placed in concentration camps.
    2. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: dejavu
      All around are hot heads ...

      So, you, "still wait" suggest? How much, if not a secret? A month, two, or maybe there will be not 35 thousand refugees, but three and a half million? "Help is coming!" And why are the DPR and LPR fighters running around with RPG-7, and not with "cornet"? For me so - Stop waiting! All these "notes", "meetings", "statements" are empty - a shake of air. They waited in 99th in Yugoslavia, were silent in Libya and Iraq. In Chechnya in 91st they also waited, but everyone knows how it ended. Who does not know (especially those who like to "wait") read these notes: http://ng-cherkashin.livejournal.com/123736.html - very informative, although scary and insulting.
  37. Chapovsky
    0
    18 2014 June
    about the Kazakhs with Belarus hasty conclusion, but about the fact that Putin is merging ukroinu usa. this is obvious, because he perfectly understands the threat of Russia from the new Ukrainian government. but it doesn’t change its methods. Like parrots with a laurel, they say the same thing. And words without action are just words. As long as the Polish threaten, they wipe their feet against the Russian Norod.
  38. 0
    18 2014 June
    Quote: magot
    "The war with the United States has already begun. The Americans have seized almost all of Ukraine - a buffer state, which was the foreground for the Russian Armed Forces. A geopolitical catastrophe, comparable to 1941, has occurred."
    So do not write like that. This is a substitution of concepts, i.e. - False. There is no war with the USA, there is a geopolitical confrontation. These are different things. Such phrases put pressure on people and introduce the idea that the war has really begun. And then people start a real war. The article works to foment war, it is against the law. Afftoru - a categorical failure!


    Yeah ... not everyone woke up yet
  39. admin 54
    0
    18 2014 June
    I also believe that the time of persuasion, concessions, statements, protests, appeals has passed. The farther - the worse. If the president began to be blamed, then it is not worth waiting for the jade from the jade. It's time to show yourself, your pride, self-esteem. And silence and non-response will lead to more. The junta runs trial balls all the time and looks at Russia's reaction: how it will react. But Russia is silent ... Maybe it’s really time to say something?
  40. +4
    18 2014 June
    And I agree with the author. Hand over (merge) the South-East by no means. This will also have catastrophic consequences within Russia. And how to help - there are enough smart heads in the “headquarters”. If only the traitors were taken to the nail ...
    In particular, the author writes: "Air raids, as the practice of the United States and Israel shows, have never been interpreted as joining a war." If heavy artillery and MLRS are working in the city blocks - what is not a reason for suppressing batteries for humanitarian purposes? Only information support should be carried out in the media in advance, and the junta should be officially warned about the measures that will be taken if the genocide of the civilian population continues.
    Enough to pacify the impudent Natsik already.
  41. niklaus
    0
    18 2014 June
    YES, YES ALL SO.
  42. tokin1959
    +2
    18 2014 June
    that in a maximum of 10 years the Russians will have to fight on their own territory


    it is too optimistic.
    this year will be necessary if we do not help SE Ukraine.
    they will finish off Novorosia, they will take care of Transnistria after a short smoke break, which will not last more than a month.
    then Crimea.
    and they don’t hide about Crimea - Kalomoysky and Yarosh created the Crimea battalion, and they will destabilize the situation there, possibly a military invasion.
    in parallel will be engaged in Kazakhstan and Tatarstan.
  43. +1
    18 2014 June
    In 1939, Stalin wisely decided to annex Western Ukraine and Belarus to the USSR, as key outposts on the western border, the retention of which in the event of Western aggression allows them to repel an enemy attack. Then he strategically won over Germany, pushing the border to the West and occupying strategically important areas. But believing in his strategic superiority and calming down on this, he lost everything on the net in 1941. The point was that the state political theory, based on the "non-surrender" of provocations, did not "converge" with military military practice, as a result, the troops did not take up positions in a timely manner, the aviation was crowded at several airfields, was unable to take off in a timely manner and reflect raid, all the artillery of the western districts was at the training camp, the troops were beheaded by massive purges, and the remaining commanders were morally crushed and deprived of the initiative, they were afraid of even the slightest share of responsibility, the rearmament and re-equipment of the army was not completed, mechanized and tank corps, as the main the striking force of the military districts turned out to be understaffed. And if Ukraine and Belarus had not been on the way, Germany, where grandiose battles were fought, would have had an enemy in Moscow. And now the enemy has already captured Ukraine. From the point of view of military strategy and tactics - oh, how unprofitable! The terrain from the Ukrainian side is expanding in the form of a funnel and the enemy always has the opportunity to bypass our troops from the flank. Someone will say now that there will be no direct military clash, the war directly with Russia is purely economic. I would like to believe in this, but every day this belief disappears. The line between war and peace has already been erased by strikes on the cities of Novorossiya and the murder of civilians, the zombification of the inhabitants of Ukraine, the imposition of sanctions against Russia and many others. Every day we are losing more and more initiative. It worries me personally. I'm sorry. This is the land of my ancestors and we are now giving it cleanly to the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. They would definitely not let them go there.
  44. +3
    18 2014 June
    On real military assistance, a decision must be made in the coming days. A little more and they will block the border. After that, only the entry of troops, which is not to be allowed yet. If the militia is properly armed, then they themselves will go on the offensive, if only to completely liberate the Republic, but then it will be seen ...
    As for GDP, its silence already looks simply not decent. When they kill Russian people, destroy villages and ruin cities, it seems impossible for the president to sit and stupidly be silent. Moreover, after his earlier words.
  45. 0
    18 2014 June
    Quote: dejavu
    For them (EU / USA), we are just a HUGE tidbit, a juicy piece of meat for which you can go for ANY dirty things.


    Both for the United States and for the main of their ancestors - Great Britain, the basis of existence has always been and is dishonor and "dark muds".
  46. -7
    18 2014 June
    Russia entered an open stage of confrontation with Ukraine, having “reunited” Crimea with itself. After that, a priori, she received an eternal ill-wisher, if not an enemy, in the west of her borders. The war in Donbass, this is the consequences, much bloodier, of this political step. Of course, the Russian political establishment, on a tip from politic technologists, is voicing a number of theses that seem to justify the cuts in Ukraine's territories: there is historical justice, there is no Ukraine "in that form", this is not a confrontation with Ukraine, but with America, the junta, fascists, and generally not good people in power in Kiev. But “on the ground,” the “peach Ukrainian” sees that a piece of land with a vineyard, tomatoes and nuts was cut off from his cherry orchard, without asking this Ukrainian. Now, there is no need to invent complex ideologemes of Eurasianism, the "third way", and the New Empire. Any rogue from the West can only remind about the vineyard "squeezed" by a neighbor, and the Ukrainian will go berserk. Of course, the ideal option, IMHO, would not be reunification, but the independence of Crimea, under the protectorate of Russia. Then there would be no trace of the new Ukrainian authorities, even before the summer. For the Ukrainian army in Donbass, which, at the very least, is at war and breaks in its favor (according to Sterlkov's version) - this is the result of patriotic upsurge and mobilization of the nation in front of external threats. The revolution on the Maidan, having dealt with the internal "tyrants", faced the threat of a post-revolutionary crisis: the oligarchs are in power, the execution of the Maidanites has not been investigated, the economy is in decline, and so on. But the external threat rallied, and the events in Novorossiya became something like the campaign of the Poles against the USSR in 1920, when even the sympathies of the emigrants were on the side of the Bolsheviks. In the Donbass, Ukraine defends its integrity and is forced to shed blood. Russia defends the rights and lives of Russians in Donbass who have believed Russia's promises of support. Therefore, detachments of volunteers, the supply of MANPADS, ATGMs, and other weapons, intelligence, financial assistance, and maneuvers of troops on the border - this is also the logic of Russia's subsequent actions. And how to "settle" into a peaceful channel? It is not clear ... My fantasy is the introduction of peacekeepers, but not the Russians (Ukraine will not agree), the disarming of the militias, and the "green corridor" for the release of armed volunteers, amnesty, the transfer of power to the legally elected local authorities, local elections (under the supervision of observers) with the subsequent political legalization of the leaders and political forces of the DPR and LPR. Raising the question of the status of the regions of the South-East, in the legal field of Ukraine, up to independence, but after a certain period of time.
    1. +3
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Aeneas
      My fantasy

      I’m wondering! What .... did he put this plus enemy? This is the enemy! Read carefully WHAT he carries!
      Quote: Aeneas
      Russia entered an open stage of confrontation with Ukraine, having “reunited” Crimea with itself. After that, a priori, she received an eternal ill-wisher, if not an enemy, in the west of her borders. The war in Donbass, this is the consequences, much more bloody, of this political step.

      Do you agree with everything? At least look at what his nickname means! You’re an uncle provocateur! Go to your censors and tell them that if it weren’t for Crimea, there would be peace and prosperity in Ukraine. And kissing with Russia !
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov

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        Quote: Aeneas My fantasy I’m wondering! What .... did he put this plus enemy? This is the enemy! Read carefully WHAT he carries!


        I agree, bears nonsense.

        In the Donbass, Ukraine defends its integrity, and is forced to shed blood.

        Yeah! defends ... so much so that it kills women with rockets, children, schA ... believed! money is defended by the Kiev junta, without Donbas, industrial, Ukraine - nothing.
        1. +1
          18 2014 June
          and money too ...
      2. +1
        18 2014 June
        that okay, WHAT am I carrying ... Won Lukashenko went to the inauguration of the head of the Junta, and he said this! But Putin asked not to hold referendums on the DPR and LPR - this betrayal or the cunning sub-sub-sub. Then the return of the Ambassador of the Russian Federation, Putin’s calls to Poroshenko ... Enemies, all around are enemies.
      3. -1
        18 2014 June
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        not interesting! What .... this frank enemy put plus? It's the enemy! Read carefully WHAT it carries!

        set the same :)
    2. dmb
      +1
      18 2014 June
      Let's say you are right, even most likely you are right about the different initial status of Crimea. But history does not know the subjunctive mood. But on the part of the proposals for resolving the Donetsk conflict, I cannot agree. Whose troops do you see as peacekeepers, the UN? Have they done a lot in Kosovo? For the US-backed Albanians, yes, for the Serbs, no. In 1996, there were observers in Russia too. Not even American, but the most, that neither is the "neutral" Swedish. Who have long praised the democratic and transparent choice of Bori the drunkard. True, a year later, they also said that they had shaken, but they did it in the interests of democracy. Now think about whether the Akhmetovs and Kolomoisks will want to give the stolen enterprises to our Deripaskas and Yakunins (the same thieves). So the elections under UN control will go off with a bang.
      1. +1
        18 2014 June
        yes, with the Crimea, the story will not work. And the peacekeepers, of course, not NATO. Anyone: Belarusians, Kazakhs, Mongols, Indians are very fond of peacemaking around the world. Elections in Donbass should legitimize the authorities. After all, who are the "people's" governors, prime ministers, mayors ... Impostors, sometimes dubious. What is the story with Ponamarev.
        1. dmb
          0
          18 2014 June
          There is only one question. Will these peacekeepers arrange the Ukrainian government, or rather the US ambassador. (This is again from the experience of Serbia).
          1. 0
            18 2014 June
            Quote: dmb
            ut just one question. Will these peacekeepers arrange the Ukrainian government, or rather the US ambassador

            no, no, no, wait, question No. 0: where to enter? In the DNI and LC? and they (they) need it, they themselves will not cope? with whom and with what? make peace with someone? - if you introduce, so the whole territory of Ukraine with the aim of conducting independent and safe referenda in ALL (individually) areas! Otherwise, it will be just help in crushing the Republics :(
            1. dmb
              0
              18 2014 June
              I can only recommend reading all the previous correspondence, then it will be clear what the discussion was about, as well as the attitude of its parties to the introduction of peacekeepers.
        2. 0
          18 2014 June
          Quote: Aeneas
          . Impostors, sometimes dubious.

          This line concerns you specifically. You don’t need to throw in any kind of bullshit, but run away from specific answers!
          You write:
          Quote: Aeneas
          Russia entered an open stage of confrontation with Ukraine, having “reunited” Crimea with itself. After that, a priori, she received an eternal ill-wisher, if not an enemy, in the west of her borders.

          That is, before the Crimea was everything chocolate? And only Crimea us with people like you divided? Or we brought out from under the blow of the brothers in the Crimea?
          Quote: Aeneas
          .. My fantasy is the introduction of peacekeepers, but not Russians (Ukraine will not agree),

          What’s in your head, is yours wide? Ukraine will not agree! Well, it is necessary! You lost your vote when you agreed to be an American colony! They don’t agree with a prostitute, they agree with a pimp! Is that understandable ??? No one intends to ask Ukraine’s consent! You have already given him legs apart under Amer!

          Quote: Aeneas
          After all, who are the "people's" governors, prime ministers, mayors ... Impostors, sometimes dubious. What is the story with Ponamarev.

          Do you say impostors? These impostors were chosen by the people, and your juntos came to power in the blood, so who MORE legitimate ???
          Go shorter and kill the traitor against the wall! (After all, Aeneas was a traitor, huh? And who will be called so except a traitor?) !!!
    3. 0
      18 2014 June
      2Anei Interestingly, but this Ukrainian does not want to know what the inhabitants of the RSFSR thought about the accession of vast territories to the Ukrainian SSR? Territories that have never had anything to do with Ukraine! And why did this Ukrainian not even bother to ratify the document on the borders of his own country when he separated? Now this Ukrainian has no legally fixed borders of his country. And for others the vineyards of this Ukrainian of course, the toad crushes.
  47. hoard
    0
    18 2014 June
    Quote: twin22
    Yeah ... not everyone woke up yet


    not everyone includes the head, and not everyone has it ..)))
  48. 0
    18 2014 June
    Quote: Russ69
    As for GDP, its silence already looks simply not decent.

    That's it ...
  49. +1
    18 2014 June
    I don’t understand at all who started this all in the Donbas and why should Putin and Russia disentangle all this? There is obviously a redistribution of property between local oligarchs and maybe Russians, maybe Europeans and Americans want something. And Russia should solve the problems. But whose is it? And I don’t like this idea with Novorossia at the expense of Russia. To accept refugees and help them is a holy cause, but you should not get involved in some strange game. Moreover, send our guys to death. This is purely my opinion. Since someone stands behind all these Pushilins and Bolotovs. Question-who?
    1. +2
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Solhat
      I can’t understand at all who started all this in the Donbass and why Putin and Russia should disentangle all this.

      It’s shitty that YOU are so unclean and do not understand!
      Quote: Solhat
      There clearly is a redistribution of property between local oligarchs and maybe Russian, maybe Europeans and Americans want something.

      No need to sleep in the upcoming climb enemy sites!
      I’ll try to explain on my fingers.
      The power in the country was seized by nationalists without asking Donbass. The first thing they did was to say that Donbass is not people! (Abolition of the Russian language, "mo ..... to gilyak .....)
      Donbass did not agree with this. And for the sake of simple SURVIVAL decided to federalize from Kiev. Now it is clear? What kind of "strange and incomprehensible game" is there ???
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        Reno, that YOU are so cool and do not understand!

        Eh, Dmitry :( because of such peaceful people, but "my house is on the edge" of people, the world and got Hitler :(
    2. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Solhat

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      I don’t understand at all who started this all in the Donbas and why should Putin and Russia disentangle all this? There is obviously a redistribution of property between local oligarchs and maybe Russians, maybe Europeans and Americans want something. And Russia should solve problems


      Dude! you probably just woke up ... ahhh now is June 2014, hail, planes are shooting at women, children and grandmothers hiding in houses, have you seen the video on youtube? wake up!
  50. 0
    18 2014 June
    Ukrainians as a people will always be with us; why didn't they help Yanukovych in time? After all, he called Putin, realizing that he was cowardly and if he fell into the hands of the criminals, he would simply be thrown up like Gaddafi; what did our president answer to him in moments when it was necessary to help the "golden eagle" by all means? unknown and incomprehensible; Well, where were Messrs. Lukashenko and Nazarbayev? why no one extended a helping hand to the Yanukovych coward; the next turn for Kazakhstan; if the American intelligence and propaganda managed to convince us that all Ukrainians are "Bendera's" and they should be exterminated without exception, then there is nothing to say about Kazakhs as simple as a "narrow-eyed mug"
    1. +2
      18 2014 June
      Quote: dojjdik

      dojjdik
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      Ukrainians as a people will always be with us;


      At this moment, a fig comes out of his pocket, will be with us Uh-huh! Wait for a Ukrainian ... with a knife, or with a bomb ... on the bus. Forgot "yaku on gilyaku"?


      Quote: dojjdik
      next turn for Kazakhstan; if the American intelligence and propaganda managed to convince us that all Ukrainians are "Bendera's" and they must be exterminated without exception, then there is nothing to say about Kazakhs as simple as a "narrow-eyed mug"


      offend entire nations for no reason you're a good fellow!
      So this, I did not forget American propaganda set fire to Odessa residents pouring gasoline on people's heads? propaganda shot at women on YouTube where legs were torn off, head was parted? propaganda is now building roadblocks surrounding Donetsk? propaganda killed mortar shelling from a large caliber of a Russian journalist today? propaganda turned off the light, gas, etc. Donbas and Lugansk? propaganda forced tens of thousands of refugees to move to the Rostov region of Russia? You can go on and on ... consider Western Ukrainians and Galicians as yours! it’s your business, and

      Do not touch the Kazakhs until you have caught in all the troubles that is happening in Ukraine, I will say America will attack more, we will be the first to come to your aid. You have a short memory if you forgot the Second World War, and the heroism of all our soldiers who laid down their heads in victory over fascism. Watch the TV series, the Russian one about the Kazakh intelligence officer Kasym Kaysenov, he soaked a lot of Banders, "your dull and pale-faced mug"
      1. -1
        18 2014 June
        and you don’t offend Ukrainians by calling them some kind of "dill" and don’t shut me up, I don’t know you and I don’t want to know, I didn’t ask you
        1. 0
          19 2014 June
          Quote: dojjdik

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          and you do not insult Ukrainians by calling them some kind of "dill"


          I didn’t call them dill anywhere, only Ukrainians, although there is no such nation, and indeed dill is a plant, a bed of soup, if I were called a plant, I would not be offended.
      2. 0
        18 2014 June
        those who burned people in Odessa "zombies", that is, people who were inspired that there were "subhumans" go and burn them, and with the help of which they were inspired with the help of propaganda; if you are illiterate go to school in the first grade
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          19 2014 June
          Quote: dojjdik

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          those who burned people in Odessa "zombies", that is, people who were inspired that there were "subhumans" go and burn them, and with the help of which they were inspired with the help of propaganda; if you are illiterate go to school in the first grade


          I’ll explain to you if you don’t know what is happening in Ukraine now, I hope you’re just an illiterate Russian in Russia, and not a Troll from Kiev.

          Now the oligarchs from western Ukraine support the pro-American (read American-raised children of Bandera's fiercely hating everything Soviet and Russian) leaders of the Kiev junta, and the stupid, intoxicated people of western Ukraine (if only since 1991 they have been fooled, the new generation has already grown up) this very junta also supports morally shouting "who does not jump," and physicists, sending soldiers to the murder of the southeastern UNDOORED RESIDENTS of Ukraine.

          Now, as for the Ukrainians, they were not and are not, there are RUSSIANS who lived in the territory of Ukraine since the time of the Slavic tribes of Vladimir, and there are also Galicians, whose language the Kiev junta and Bandera are trying to shove everyone. as if it is an ancient Ukrainian language, it knows what language it is half-Polish half-fucked, although Old Slavonic was spoken there several centuries ago.

          about propaganda, this is not propaganda, Bandera, they hated Russians before the revolution, read articles on this topic on this site. After the revolution, all sorts of things appeared, and during the Second World War Bandera themselves, who killed the Russians in Ukraine as policemen, made Galician SS of them. And after 1991, having taken independence, they openly started blaming the Russians for everything. This disease has long been with stupid Galicians who are fighting against Russians in Ukraine. It would be a pity if it weren’t for the United States, Russia would have crushed the orcs for a long time, and cleaned all of Ukraine from them, then all Ukrainians from Lviv, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk to Lugansk, Donetsk and Odessa would have recognized that they are Russian (I do not distinguish Russian from Ukrainian by face) , part of the Russian World, Russian Civilization.
  51. 0
    18 2014 June
    What a correct article! I have always said, I say and will continue to say that disarmament is a bluff. Only the deployment of new defense and deterrence systems can help us save ourselves. In response to Level 3 sanctions, we must withdraw from the INF Treaty (By the way, it is the INF Treaty , and not the INF, as it is written in the article). Then withdraw from START-3. If they still struggle, withdraw from the ABM Treaty. And in the end, deal them the hardest blow - withdraw from the NPT. The latter will cause a very strong effect i.e. To. Europe and the USA are full of people dissatisfied with the policies of the West. Imagine a nuclear mushroom over Boston or London. Taking into account the psychological situation in the USA and the EU, we can make the assumption that a nuclear terrorist attack will simply kill them.
    It is not profitable for them to bring us down by lowering prices and imposing an embargo on oil. in the event of the collapse of the Russian Federation a) a zone of destabilization will appear around the EU and the United States will lose its last ally. b) China, an adversary much more dangerous than Russia, will strengthen.
  52. +2
    18 2014 June
    New appeal from Gubarev. It seems to me alone, but the latest statements by the leaders of Novorossiya are already beginning to resemble a plea... Which the Kremlin simply does not want to hear...
  53. +1
    18 2014 June
    I suggest that the readers of the site, first of all, determine for themselves what the territory of Ukraine is for Russia. Either it is a neighboring state, with a fraternal but separate people, or it is a part of Russia temporarily occupied by nationalist rebels. And based on this, build your demands and expectations from the authorities. If this is a neighboring state in which anti-Russian forces have come to power, there are several options from evacuating the Russian population to organizing a coup in order to install their own puppets. And if the latter, then the question of whether to send troops or not should not arise at all.
  54. 0
    18 2014 June
    3. Economic sanctions. This is already a real impact, because The Russian economy is integrated into the global economy. And although the sanctions will have negative consequences for Western Europe, they will go through with them. Because Europe is occupied by the United States, and in foreign policy it is not independent. But whatever the economic losses for Russia, is this really a reason to surrender the country - for the sake of temporary economic well-being with the prospect of the complete destruction of the Russian state? The way out is to transfer the economy to a mobilization mode of operation, which will allow us to gain economic authority from the West

    The LPR was recognized by South Ossetia. It would be funny to persuade China to make an anti-American demarche - recognition of the LPR
    (and lately China has been doing this willingly - China is not very happy with the events in Iraq).
    Then all US sanctions activities are flushed down the toilet.
    You can imagine further: we rent a couple of Chinese air transport aircraft and drop the equipment into the LPR.
  55. +1
    18 2014 June
    Without knowing and seeing the full extent of the events taking place, it is at least stupid to draw conclusions based on one’s own emotions.
  56. 0
    18 2014 June
    I agree with the author. If Russian power merges the southeast of Ukraine, we will face a “partisan” war in Crimea and in the south of Russia. For those who like to count finances, this will cost much more than sanctions. Well, most importantly, this very power will turn into complete power, in the eyes of the majority of Russians. Accordingly, the organization of “Maidan” in Russia is growing sharply. Since even those who do not support our “liberals” in any way will not support the government in any way. The result could be tragic. So this is our war. I will only say one thing about myself: if the government surrenders Ukraine, all its representatives, including the president, will become strangers to me.
  57. +1
    18 2014 June
    I agree with the author 200%. I notice that the rhetoric of the Russian media has changed. Concepts are already popping up: the east of Ukraine, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the word “junta” has disappeared, etc. A smooth dissolution of Novorossiya is being prepared. Don’t forget that capitalist Russia is not the USSR. Putin doesn’t need such an overwhelming rating. He doesn’t know what to do with it. Most likely, he was reminded of the explosions of residential buildings at the beginning of his presidency. The FSB was suspected of being involved in the preparation and execution of them. At that stage, from the position of “stitching” Russia together, it was justified, but the people will not forgive this. There is also no particular success on the diplomatic front. There are also no attempts to turn the American people against the authorities, thereby forcing them to abandon the current course. This creates the impression that I. I. Strelkov is more needed for Moscow dead than alive. The president has no desire to finish off a walking American corpse armed to the teeth.
  58. -1
    18 2014 June
    I would like to hope that not all of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have yet reached Donetsk and Lugansk and that is why we are delaying the “no-fly zone.” The Kremlin's silence has been indecently prolonged! Somehow no one notifies us about the president’s rating!
  59. +1
    18 2014 June
    The West found incriminating evidence on Putin personally, so much so that he had to wilt. I doubt that the “counter-contractor” would have been exposed. It is Yanukovych, a “bull” without a brain, blinded by “greenery”, leaving “fingers” everywhere. And the “godfathers” of the West, without hesitating , they took him by the “gills” and the urka wilted. fool
  60. NUR
    0
    18 2014 June
    It's too cleverly written. Now there are simple truths like Ukrainians don’t have enough lard.
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  62. +1
    18 2014 June
    Only a stupid person doesn’t understand that all they need is for the Russian Federation to get involved in the war. Question for what:
    1. Russia is an aggressor, a convenient situation for the Western propaganda machine to finally shape world public opinion against the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences:
    - tough economic sanctions (despite the opposition of large foreign corporations bearing losses);
    - open military assistance from NATO and the USA;
    - discrimination against Russians all over the world, depriving the Russian Federation of few but necessary allies.
    2. Russia is being drawn into a long armed confrontation, with numerous casualties (and these victims are you and me and our Slavic brothers). There will be no blitzkrieg. Not only the LPR and DPR militias are able to partisan, especially since the bulk of the Ukrainian population will be seriously motivated to destroy the Russians.
    3. Decline in the economic and social level of Russia and, as a consequence, “Maidan chaos” on Red Square with all the ensuing consequences. Don't forget, guys, about the 5th column, which is asleep and dreams of taking revenge for 2011-2012.
    1. +1
      18 2014 June
      Quote: ghbvfrjd
      Only a stupid person doesn’t understand that all they need is for the Russian Federation to get involved in a war.

      Why get involved in a war? All you need is help...
      1. kombat58
        0
        18 2014 June
        Don't they help?
        At least one proof of lack of help.
        Unfounded slogans that put pressure on the emotions of gullible people do not allow these people to analyze the situation.
        All this informational EMOTIONAL noise is designed to divert thoughts towards EMOTIONS! The use - arrogant and undisguised - of the characteristics of the Russian character to obtain the effect of "OURS WILL BE BEATEN!"
        Do not give in to the provocative calls of the Gapon priests, this will end in “Bloody Sunday”!
        I really don’t like the constant mantra “The USA is not ready for war! The USA is not capable of war!” It seems to be correct, flattering one’s pride, but in my opinion it is not a reasoned and provocative preparation. With a complete lack of analysis.
  63. +1
    18 2014 June
    Quote: Cucumbers
    I notice that the rhetoric of the Russian media has changed. Concepts are already popping up: the east of Ukraine, the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the word “junta” has disappeared, etc. A smooth dissolution of Novorossiya is being prepared.

    If anyone else believes that Putin will not betray Novorossiya. I wish they were right...
    I’ll explain why I myself don’t believe in it anymore...
    1. Not a single party from the State Duma has ever organized a rally in support of Novorossiya.
    2. An attempt to introduce into the Duma (it seems by Zhuravlev) the possibility of introducing a law on the protection of compatriots abroad. They didn't even bother to look...
    3. The silence of the GDP and top officials of states regarding events in the South East today is simply bewildering. Yes, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs writes papers to the UN Security Council, but everyone understands perfectly well that this is a piece of paper and not a single resolution will pass...
    4. All requests for help and recognition of the republics are cynically ignored by our media. Obviously on orders...
    You can also describe a bunch of small facts, but all this leads to only one thought. That the government is deflated, and we need to prepare for the deterioration of affairs in the country. If we were pressed once, and we didn’t make a peep, then they will press further...
  64. NUR
    0
    18 2014 June
    There was lard on the Maidan, but now it is gone, Novorossiya has risen up so that there will be lard again.
  65. +1
    18 2014 June
    .....I read the article....I used to think that they smoke dope only in Dill, but now I see that some people are in the LPR....I especially liked the beginning:..."Russia, surrounded by US military bases with missile defense systems and short- and medium-range missiles disguised as missile defense with minimal flight time, an ultimatum will be presented: surrender or destruction. Resistance of a country deprived of a nuclear shield will become impossible...."
    ....Dear author! I hope you have heard about such a system “Perimeter” (created back in the 70-80s), which is capable of making decisions on the launch of ballistic missiles without human intervention in critical conditions.... It was created just for when “no one is already there” "from management and command... Our "partners" know this well and therefore you can sleep peacefully.... They really don’t want to receive a blow (and it will be a considerable one) from a country that “no longer exists.” hi
    1. Andrey82
      0
      18 2014 June
      Nuclear missiles disguised as missile defense for several. minutes will destroy all the main and reserve communication and control centers of the Perimeter, the location of which has long been known to the campaign, as well as the command missiles of the Perimeter, of which there are not so many. Whatever survives and takes off will be guaranteed to be destroyed by hundreds of sea- and ground-based anti-missile missiles near our borders and coasts. Without launch codes, all submarines and missiles of the Strategic Missile Forces are just scrap, nothing more. The Strategic Air Forces will be destroyed before they even have time to take off, having received a flight mission within a few seconds. minutes with the same supposedly missile defense missiles or cruise missiles with nuclear warheads previously launched from the sea in unison. airfields where our Tu-169 and Tu-95 are crowded near Engels. The same will happen with the Ukrainka base in the east. The Americans are steadily deploying their military machine to completely destroy the Russians, and our “patriotic” ruler is helping them by dramatically reducing their nuclear arsenal.
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Quote: Andrey82
        nuclear missiles disguised as missile defense for several. minutes will destroy all main and backup communication and control nodes

        Andrey, don't panic! :) Not so simple :)
        What do you think, all these facilities were built without the expectation of covering nuclear weapons? :)
        Quote: Andrey82
        The strategic air force will be destroyed before it even has time to take off

        probably, but in the Strategic Missile Forces the emphasis is not on aviation but on cars
        Quote: Andrey82
        The Americans are steadily deploying a war machine to completely destroy the Russians,

        "machine" yes, but not troops. before a strike, at least a small group must be concentrated, measures have been taken on its territory to prevent the consequences - and all this will immediately become visible, this cannot be done in 1 minute, remember Cuba
  66. NUR
    +1
    18 2014 June
    We need a PMC with a good mat part that can be leased.
    1. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: NUR
      We need a PMC with a good mat part that can be leased.

      but this, neighbor, is a good idea! What specific proposals?
  67. ed65b
    +1
    18 2014 June
    Well, in defense you can break the backbone of the Ukrainian army. The defeat of Kyiv depends on the number of coffins coming from the eastern front to be buried in their homeland. Yes, there is no strength yet, but it is still difficult. however, two months ago they didn’t even shoot down planes, and now dill are afraid to fly. No one in the world should know whether Russia is helping the DPR and LPR or not, not even us. Everything should be quiet and secret. We are harnessing slowly but moving quickly.
  68. 0
    18 2014 June
    Who is for war, who is against?
    It's very simple:
    - a full-scale conflict at the moment is dangerous and unacceptable for the Russian Federation;
    - ignoring and not intervening is like death;
    - half measures are sabotaged by the fifth oligarchic column of the Kremlin.

    Conclusion? And the conclusion is simple! The war is already going on, no matter how we hide under the covers. And apparently they will cut us again while we are sleepy. am

    The government's silence is turning from a "cunning plan" into "the silence of the lambs." am
    1. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Valter1364
      conclusion? And the conclusion is simple! The war is already going on, no matter how we hide under the covers. And apparently they will cut us again when we are sleepy

      Exactly, Valery, the whole history shows that if you don’t go against the enemy, the enemy will come to you - I don’t remember a single example otherwise!
  69. Praetorian
    +1
    18 2014 June
    The logic of the article "Let's occupy Ukraine, because they will be afraid to fight with us anyway." Are we as unceremonious as the states? With such impulses, it is necessary to put the comrade clerk first in the tank and go! =) It seems to me that in such questions you need to start from the position: are you ready to fulfill what you write about, i.e. put on a uniform, take a machine gun and go to Kyiv!, otherwise “in words you are Leo Tolstoy,” as they say.
    1. Roshchin
      0
      18 2014 June
      This is not about the occupation of Ukraine, but about helping the South-East in its fight against fascism and protecting the territory of the Russian Federation.
  70. 0
    18 2014 June
    I was interested in the article, everything seemed to be correct, but after reading halfway through, the question arose - what kind of grass does the author smoke? and what channels he watches, apparently he read too many detective stories in childhood, or there is a clear overdose of the orange RenTV channel with the zombifying voice of the presenter of “Military Review” and “Battle of Civilizations”
  71. kombat58
    0
    18 2014 June
    Donetsk “people's governor” Pavel Gubarev announced that the militia had a large number of tanks at its disposal. He posted the relevant information on Facebook.
    “Remember, I mentioned tanks. Now we have them, and a lot of them,” Gubarev wrote. He did not specify how or where the armored vehicles were obtained.
    The “People's Governor” also confirmed that the militia has two Grads (multiple launch rocket systems).
    Nobody helps! Guard! Who knocked out three tanks yesterday? Probably from PPSh and RPG. This is the T-64.
    Well, something like that on the topic of conversation.
  72. 0
    18 2014 June
    Recognize the DPR and LPR, conclude a mutual assistance agreement and openly, formally implement effective military assistance with volunteers and weapons. In no case do not recognize the results of the coup in Kiev and the fake presidential elections in Ukraine. Establish a no-fly zone over eastern Ukraine. .... deliver air strikes against accumulations of armored vehicles and artillery of the Kiev regime, ...


    By one fact of recognition of Novorossiya, Russia will transfer the anti-terrorist operation of the Ukrainian security forces to the status of external aggression against an independent state. And this is a completely different story.
  73. Serg7281
    0
    18 2014 June
    The article is stupid, based only on emotions and rumors. Neither the author nor we have all the information. Why have the leaders of the DPR and LPR - Pushilin, Tsarev - begun to appear frequently in Moscow lately? Just to show off on evening talk shows in a zombie box?
  74. 0
    18 2014 June
    a very subjective view of the author of the article, although not devoid of analysis... hi
  75. -2
    18 2014 June
    Russia is on the rise, new gas routes are being built, the army is rearming, the United States has big problems in the Asia-Pacific region, Europe, the Middle East, Ukraine, in the end, the hegemon is withering, trade has appeared not for dollars. If it is so easy to demolish an army group, but it is not demolished, then there are reasons or the time has not come, otherwise why are we waiting.
  76. basalt32
    0
    18 2014 June
    people say less and do more
  77. Roshchin
    +1
    18 2014 June
    The article is correct. They should already be afraid. The enemy must be met before he crosses the border, and not after.
  78. Andrey82
    0
    18 2014 June
    Relying on the one who ordered the transfer of equipment to the enemy from Crimea, reduced the nuclear arsenal by several. once adjusted to the capabilities of the missile defense system and the poor thing can’t cope with the liberals for 15 years?
    People, wake up before it's too late. Don’t rely on the tsar, he is not real and is leading the Russians to destruction.
  79. -1
    18 2014 June
    Author, did you read what you wrote yourself? Nonsense and nonsense. You probably have hung a halo on yourself if you put yourself above Stalin. I am sure of one thing, woe to the LPR if you occupy even one more or less strategically important position in it.
  80. Roshchin
    0
    18 2014 June
    They should already be afraid. The enemy must be met before he crosses the border, and not after.
    One of the reasons for the outbreak of the Second World War was the actions of European “heads” to “pacify” the Nazis. They sold Austria and Czechoslovakia to the Nazis under Hitler’s promise not to seize them again. Then they began to wage a strange war, which grew into a terrible war for everyone, including the “peacekeepers.” Our people suffered the most.
    There can be no trust in the promises of the fascists and their patrons. Don't be afraid - war is at your doorstep. The Army of the South-East fights for all Russians.
  81. Immelman
    0
    18 2014 June
    The article is very sound. Help from Mother Russia is REALLY needed and necessary. And most importantly - you need it ON TIME. As for me, the time has come.
  82. 0
    18 2014 June
    Article "-". A provocation is possible, although it looks more like ignorance of the situation around Novorossiya. I understand the author, as a resident of the LPR, but I don’t understand the panic. The article contains a lot of words, but little analysis. And the mention
    Third explanation - The West found dirt on Putin personally, so much so that he had to wilt. This is quite likely, since Putin left Sobchak’s team, where everyone stole in the 1990s, and (possibly) killed competitors. And he would not have belonged there if he had not participated in all this. It is only in stupid movies that a Soviet intelligence officer can earn the characteristic “merciless to the enemies of the Reich” without committing crimes.

    But there is a way out. If this is really the case, then you need to honestly tell everything to the people, repent, explain, that otherwise it would have been impossible to get to the top of power in order to save Russia. The people will understand and forgive.
    author, let's do it this way. Putin is OUR president. What kind of person is he, what should he do in front of us? WE should judge and demand. By expressing such an opinion about OUR president, you insulted (I understand not on purpose) personally Me and many of my fellow citizens. You signed up as a resident of the LPR, so correspond to the status of a resident of an INDEPENDENT state. Demand from your leaders, but also protect them from attacks from citizens and officials of other states. Sincerely hi
    1. 0
      18 2014 June
      Quote: Horst78
      By expressing such an opinion about OUR president, you insulted (I understand not on purpose) personally Me and many of my fellow citizens

      Horst, dear hi , in the end you are right (and here too) but why are you quibbling with words, a person simply has an opinion, and this is already good, because Unfortunately, many people don’t have it :( For some, the heat is probably having a bad effect on you, how is the weather? Here in Kemerovo it’s over 30, and yesterday in the sun it was +41 :)
      1. 0
        18 2014 June
        Thanks for the comment. We have +14 rains. And I didn’t want to offend the author, I just didn’t like something, so I commented. And to the author and his fellow citizens patience and willpower in the fight for their homeland. hi
        1. 0
          19 2014 June
          Quote: Horst78
          We have +14 rains.

          Damn, I jinxed it! Our sky is frowning - because of you :( :))
  83. sch1987
    +2
    18 2014 June
    Wasn't that what the "brilliant leader and teacher" demanded from his military in 1941? And how did it end?

    Because the evacuation of industry was carried out, which has no analogues in history, which made it possible to complete the rearmament of the army in 43. Or do you think that the factories were simply unloaded into a field without infrastructure and under the open sky? Steel at 41 bided his time and ultimately won the war.
    If we talk about our time, then, in my opinion, Crimea was returned not because it happened, but because people in the Kremlin are adequate to the world situation. And the militias are shooting down helicopters and planes, burning ground equipment and blocking from 500 to 2000 paratroopers at the airport in Lugansk, also not because they can do it.
    In general, I am amazed by people whom no one knows, who have achieved nothing, and at the same time they think that successful people and people who have left a big mark on history are stupider than them.
  84. Dracula
    0
    18 2014 June
    How is it in *Ivan Vasilyevich...* But the tsar is not real!!!!!!! Demons!!!!!!
  85. Sofa fighter
    0
    18 2014 June
    I really hope that nothing will work out for Fashington.
  86. 2014videonew
    0
    18 2014 June
    “...we need to honestly tell everything to the people, repent, explain that otherwise it would have been impossible to get to the top of power in order to save Russia. The people will understand and forgive."

    Do you even read what you write? He repented that he killed, stole.... and his people will understand and forgive? Sane? I personally hope that the first channel did not fool everyone so much.
  87. 0
    18 2014 June
    Such passions are absolutely terrifying, but in general, Crimea has always been Russian, gentlemen, Ukrainians, teach the swearing part, that is, history, and I agree with the author of the article, while we are sharpening our lasses, then the second time will come to our doorstep, I so I think since the war with the Euro mongrels is already underway and the hand of Washington and the Obama administration from Barak is very clearly visible here, it’s worth thinking about the fact that now it is necessary to repel the Americans and their Ukrainian Binderists, every minute is already about, and reasoning about whether we are right or wrong , descendants will decide, so the war with the Binderites and the United States is already underway, it’s time to make worthy decisions and there’s no point in “pulling the cat by the tail.”
  88. 0
    18 2014 June
    In Russia, the thesis that the West is trying to drag Russia into a war on the territory of Ukraine is now very popular among “analysts” and the most correct decision is not to succumb to provocations. Wasn’t this what the “brilliant leader and teacher” demanded from his military in 1941?

    An incorrect comparison; Stalin raised the country twice (before the war and after), and left it with nuclear weapons. And the current ones just lost their way. Everyone is delighted with the GDP, but wasn’t it under him that Taburetkin smashed the army as he wanted?
    So again we found ourselves with nothing.
  89. cat
    cat
    0
    19 2014 June
    Danilevsky overdid it. It is clear that Donbass needs more active help from Russia, but the daddy’s “flirting” with the West will lead to the consequences of Gaddafi - this is already too much! Old Man balances for the sake of discounts and loans, but he despises the West. And Nazarbayev has had a successor for a long time. Therefore, there is no need to panic, but there is no need to relax either.
  90. +1
    20 2014 June
    Minus the article. Ruin is a sovereign state. The government must request help, and as the author writes, this will be: Russian aggression.
    This is what gentlemen with dazzling smiles are waiting for.

    ".. In addition, America is now in another negative phase of its development, and the maximum decline will occur in 2015.."
    “If you sit on the river bank for a long time, you can see the corpse of your enemy float by.”
    Confucius.

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