Russia refused to participate in an international conference on missile defense

According to RIA "News", the organizing committee of the international conference on missile defense, which will be held in Mainz, Germany, refused to accept the Russian application for participation, citing "the recently emerged various difficulties that will not allow to create proper conditions for receiving Russian guests."

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, this step fits into the "general line on curtailing the dialogue with Russia on missile defense, which has recently been pursued by the United States and its NATO allies." At the same time, the department’s web site notes that Moscow has repeatedly spoken about the need to start working together to counter possible missile threats and challenges.

"These proposals remain in force, but they can hardly be realized when one of the parties, in fact, completely refuses to talk," - stressed in the department.

The list of declared topics of the conference includes missile threats, security system architectures, international and European policy issues, threat modeling, and training.

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[Nevsky_ZU]

Iran invited to the conference?

[from punk]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Iran invited to the conference?

and then. all for whom the missile defense system was conceived as an honorary guest

[jjj]

North Korea still not forget

[Cherdak]

Quote: 1

refused to accept the Russian application for participation

Will the ticketless "Poplar" leak?

[sscha]

Well, if you don't want to - and don't. Just keep in mind, gentlemen, that no one gave you any guarantees that your bases of air defense and missile defense forces are not on the list of targets of our tactical forces and air defense and missile defense forces. And also the base airfields of American "strategists".

[Canep]

Quote: sscha

that now your base of air defense and missile defense forces are not in the list of goals

Why "now"? they have always been on the target list. I think our answer is: mirror S-400 and in the near future S-500, asymmetric Topol-M and Yarsy, and in the future BZHRK, as well as Iskander in Kaliningrad. I don’t think that we are lagging behind here, there is also a joker - “Khibiny”, “Donald Cook” managed with Aegis and could not do anything with this electronic warfare suppression.
It’s interesting, but did it ever occur to anyone to put anti-ballistic missiles on an airplane? For example, on the MIG-31, this would make it possible to have an invulnerable and extremely mobile air-based missile defense system for use on the northern borders.

[patsantre]

Plyusanul, but hurried. They have already explained 1000 times about the huts, they could not be on the Su-24. Already enrages to read it.

Quote: Canep

It’s interesting, but did it ever occur to anyone to put anti-ballistic missiles on an airplane?

Naturally, it came, and if today this direction had prospects, it would be realized, do not hesitate.

[Dmitry Toderes]

So like the MiG-31 and so is capable of shooting down ballistic missiles.

[clidon]

Only "like".

[Ascetic]

Quote: Canep

another joker - "Khibiny", "Donald Cook" managed with Aegis and could not do anything with this electronic warfare suppression.
It’s interesting, but did it ever occur to anyone to put anti-ballistic missiles on an airplane?

Plus the new system of the Central Bank of Ukraine "Appeal", which allows changing the "falling trajectory" to OUT after the start and prolongation by American missile defense systems. Also, field tests have recently passed hypersonic missiles for the shellWhile the name and index are unknown. Now the Shell has a supersonic missile 576-E. The picture is clickable.

[andj61]

Quote: sscha

Just keep in mind, gentlemen, that no one gave you any guarantees that your bases of air defense and missile defense forces are not on the list of targets of our tactical forces and air defense and missile defense forces. And also the base airfields of American "strategists".

The best air defense system (and, perhaps, missile defense too) are our tanks at enemy airfields (rocket-based locations).

[armageddon]

Hmm ... What GUARANTEES ... They are definitely on the list of priorities for destruction ... So let them PREPARE ... !!!

[222222]

Off-topic. But IRAQ.
On June 16, the US Department of Defense ordered the departure of the Mesa Verde transport dock to the Persian Gulf (LPD 19)
- Landing Craft: Two LCACs (air cushion) or one LCU (conventional)
-EFVs: 14 Marine Corps Expeditionary Fighting Vehicles
-Aircraft: Four CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters or two MV-22 Osprey tilt rotor aircraft may be launched or recovered simultaneously. The ship's hangar can store 1-2 aircraft
Ship Commander- Captain Kenneth Reynard

[bulvas]

Option one - develop hypersound to nullify all other missile defense

[MolGro]

Russia began testing a hypersonic missile for the Pantsir complex. The first launches were in April)

[clidon]

What about the shell? This is a short-range air defense.

[Canep]

Quote: bulvas

develop hypersound

Already take into service, for the Shell, read, tested like hypersonic missiles capable of shooting down ballistic targets.

[bulvas]

Quote: Canep

Quote: bulvas

develop hypersound

Already take into service, for the Shell, read, tested like hypersonic missiles capable of shooting down ballistic targets.

Need shock rocket rocket

[andj61]

Quote: bulvas

Need shock rocket rocket

Actually, our ballistic missiles are already flying at a speed significantly exceeding Mach 7, and this is hypersound. However, when maneuvering in dense layers of the atmosphere, this speed decreases to about 4 Machs. If you do not maneuver, then the speed may remain hypersonic, but to shoot down a warhead flying along a ballistic trajectory is easier than maneuvering.
In general, if we talk about strike means, then hypersound is needed only for cruise missiles.
But for air defense and missile defense systems, hypersonic missiles are simply irreplaceable.

[Canep]

Quote: andj61

Actually, our ballistic missiles are already flying at a speed significantly exceeding Mach 7

American also fly at the same speed, but this speed - 7000 m / s or 20 Machs, hypersonic only satellites.

[kirieeleyson]

already, it's 5 years from now at best. So far, 9 has not come out for the S-400, what can I say?

[dr.Bo]

Put your missile defense around the perimeter of the border.

[Sanglier]

Whose border?

[Dym71]

Quote: Sanglier

Whose border?

Republic of Cuba!

[B.T.V.]

Should Russia be scared, upset or rejoiced ?!

[29261]

We must pretend that we are terrified and deploy another Iskander regiment in the Kaliningrad region.

[wolf7]

Open their bases in North America, and in South would not hurt for the kit. And if ideally, then lure the Koreans there, they are on the drum all the threats of NATO and minke whales

[Lyubimov]

Russia owes nothing to anyone, well, except for the public debt, of course

[kit-kat]

She must finally understand that her friends are only the army and navy.

[222222]

.yanki build missile defense in Poland ..
"" Scandalous recordings may lead to the resignation of the Polish government of Donald Tusk ""
..http: //www.imperiya.by/news.html? id = 137381
One did show off .. "the first one went" ... The second one will get ready ..

[zzzeka]

At least some good news. Let's see how much they will pay for Russia's participation in these "conferences" after our withdrawal from all middle ... START.

[svp67]

The list of declared topics of the conference includes missile threats, security system architectures, international and European policy issues, threat modeling, and training.

It would be interesting to see the themes of "treing" ... In general, the world is again "rolling downhill"

[zzzeka]

They will train to dig bunkers, like the Yankees during the Caribbean crisis.

[Dmitry Toderes]

It also does not bother us to increase the number of bunkers for the civilian population, otherwise the military alone (for example, in our Sarov). And it is desirable for the civilian population that the entrances of such bunkers are in the subway.

[Balamyt]

Quote: B.T.W.

Should Russia be scared, upset or rejoiced ?!

Russia should spit on it! And let everyone wipe themselves off!

[2224460]

But I had a dream since childhood, to "get" to America:

[Barakuda]

Europe clearly does not catch up with the fact that Russian missiles will fly faster to Berlin, London ... than to the United States. and no missile defense will help them. Well deployed - we’ll upgrade missiles, let them rebuild, they’ll see a lot of wabbles.

[Vend]

Well do not tell. Far Eastern can fly faster. The United States is ready to drown the whole world in blood and burn it to the ground. just to stay in the lead. They have a problem with their heads.

[rugor]

Initially, all these dialogs were a failure, only time wasted. It is necessary to strengthen their defense, and not sharpen their laces.

[Roshchin]

Less money will go on business trips to people for the most part on the topic of little involvement. And let those who work on the topic in Moscow: simulate threats, create security architectures, conduct trainings and seminars. You look and the benefit will be more money. And to Germany to the wonderful city of Mainz in his spare time and at his own expense

[54RG3]

Maybe Russia can refer to "the various difficulties that have recently appeared that will not allow creating the proper conditions for observing START-2 and START-3" ???

[CadetXXX]

Joint work on counteracting possible missile threats and challenges is not needed either by the US or NATO, they both considered us enemies and still think so. We need to develop such cooperation only with Asian countries, and with Belarus, Kazakhstan. Let the US and NATO go through the forest.

the organizing committee of the international conference on missile defense, which will be held in German Mainz, refused to accept the Russian application for participation, citing “various difficulties that have recently appeared

It is not clear here that Germany finally fell under the United States? Mongrel submarine ...

[GRAY]

Since 1945, there has not been a single document in Germany confirming that it is a state.
As for the German Constitution, it only works (legally) on airplanes and ships. Since the paragraph in which it was said within the limits of which territory the constitution operates, was deleted by the Americans. America has full control of all German laws. In fact, Germany is an occupied territory on which American military charters operate. There is a so-called Chancellor Pact, according to which the future German Chancellor travels to the United States and signs a document defining his powers there.

[andj61]

Quote: CadetXXX

Joint work on counteracting possible missile threats and challenges is not needed either by the US or NATO, they both considered us enemies and still think so. We need to develop such cooperation only with Asian countries, and with Belarus, Kazakhstan. Let the US and NATO go through the forest.

We need to constantly "drip" on the brains of the United States, constantly declare about the aggressive direction of the program to create missile defense, and this is best done at international conferences. But even this refusal should be used to its advantage to the maximum. PR on the topic "they do not want to talk to us, covering up the essence of their missile defense - to obtain unilateral advantages" is also necessary.
And there are ONLY possible missile threats and challenges for us from the United States and NATO.

[Giant thought]

Another proof that NATO is an enemy!

[herruvim]

Send this book to the organizing committee of the international missile defense conference for the United States and its NATO allies

[portoc65]

Great !!!!!!!! Since they don’t want to agree, they will receive what they deserve. For each of their tricks, Russia will respond with its unpredictability

[argon]

I wonder what issues are discussed at such an event? Since Russia is a potential enemy for NATO, then with what joyful feelings would they invite us? And now there is an extra opportunity to loudly and solemnly announce the occasion in the face of Ukrainian problems. Our officials will lose that they didn’t go to Europe for budget money.

[pazuhinm]

“Recently appeared various difficulties that would not allow creating proper conditions for the reception of Russian guests.”

Is the toilet clogged? already can’t clean their own?

[patsantre]

Very funny joke. It is because of these that one can contemplate in amerskih films the same uber-funny anecdotes about Russians, such as "due to the lack of toilet paper, I had to crawl my ass on the grass."

[ilya_oz]

It is necessary to begin production of medium-range missiles, as simple and cheap as possible (even accuracy is not needed). And dozens of them shove them into the mines, and let them go broke on their missile defense.

[Sergei75]

Well, nothing new happened for us, NATO deployed its missile defense systems near us, and humped the hunchback that it was not against us, but we were shy about sending them.
I will say more, the West never went to a rapprochement with Russia, even under Gorbat and EBN, they used us, but there was no step towards a meeting, we gave them "a million scarlet roses", and they always regarded us as a raw material appendage.
And it was not they who wanted to be friends with us, but we sought reciprocity from them and fawned on them.
You need to learn from them, but no more.

[asar]

- "Well, as you wish! Themselves" asked for "! Only then - do not dissolve tears and drool!

[Coconut Tima]

And us - RAT !!!

[Ryndabul]

Quote: 54RG3

Maybe Russia can refer to "the various difficulties that have recently appeared that will not allow creating the proper conditions for observing START-2 and START-3" ???

No, perhaps. The fact is that these agreements are beneficial for Russia too: they, well, yes, purely formally, contain a certain deterrent for our counterparties, even if only at the level of international law ...

[54RG3]

Quote: Ryndabul

Quote: 54RG3

Maybe Russia can refer to "the various difficulties that have recently appeared that will not allow creating the proper conditions for observing START-2 and START-3" ???

No, perhaps. The fact is that these agreements are beneficial for Russia too: they, well, yes, purely formally, contain a certain deterrent for our counterparties, even if only at the level of international law ...

Please clarify what is the benefit for the Russian Federation if ICBMs with multiple warheads (something the USSR was very strong at) were cut in exchange for promises not to deploy missile defense closer to Russia's borders and not move NATO eastward?

Promises, we all know how they fulfilled ...

[kowalski]

Well, not invited and not invited! America, with its missile defense system, has managed, officially recognizing it as ineffective. Money from the budget profiled and we do not need to intervene in this ...

[Wolka]

the Yankees with the geyropa are very zealous and constantly love to repeat the priorities of the principles of sovereignty and integrity of the state, but the upcoming historical events in the world eloquently say that they themselves with their own brains and hands chop the branch on which they sit ...

[Palladium900]

Russia refused to participate in an international conference on missile defense

Well, we will not invite them to the conference on the deployment of Iskanders on our western borders!

[andj61]

The Iskander's range is 500 km. Even from the Kaliningrad region to Berlin will not reach. Something like the RSD-10 Pioneer is needed, but the INF treaty is in the way.

[Averias]

Well, in that case - "Iskander" to help us, and to them, for the Big hemorrhoids.

[zeleznijdorojnik]

Withdraw from the START Treaties and on the Limitation of Conventional Arms in Europe.

[andj61]

Quote: zeleznijdorojnik

Withdraw from the START Treaties and on the Limitation of Conventional Arms in Europe.

Especially from the treaty on the limitation of conventional weapons in Europe. It is very unprofitable for us.

[storm wind]

Get out of all military treaties! In figs are they needed now?

[Grbear]

The normal "screening out" has begun. The organizations controlled by the USA do not let us into their "sandbox". We are not worse. We will reduce the number of "TriP - Permanent Plenipotentiaries" and save on membership fees.

Actually, "not to let go" is a flawed logic of the weak, because the enemy must be kept closer to the friend.

[StepanovTDSM]

Its missile defense with China and Central Asia.

[StepanovTDSM]

Let them build a missile defense, spend money. Progress in technical re-equipment is too fast. Soon they will become obsolete again. if missiles with warheads fly everyone will not find it.

[ochakow703]

And then what will they gather there? Discuss how else to annoy Russia? Americans climb straight out of their way. Their immigrant people are these settlers.

[shishakova]

Lord, how scary))))

[Sasspy]

First you need to bring down their dollar and euro. Bring down their media

[vic.danilow2014]

Citizens of the planet Earth, who have not yet attacked Russia, stand in line. Our government will endure everything.

[Bort radist]

While they could receive benefits, they were invited.

[kelevra]

Yes, and they went to hell! We need to have pride, send them on a dick, let them with themselves in a pid ... ju play!

[mackonya]

Damn, like small children, these Western partners - "... Take your toys and don't pee in my pot."

[engineer74]

I propose to convene an international conference "Methods of overcoming missile defense systems."
Invite China, DPRK, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela.
Topics: "Do-it-yourself RGCHIN", "International coordination of ICBM strikes", etc.
All observers and prikazyvayas to send ... far.

[Leshka]

right what for to be upset

[Comrade Bender]

Comrades rocketeers! Well, accidentally groan with a felt boot towards the console!

[P-38]

Russian tankers were not allowed to attend the conference on "How to fight Russian tanks" ?! It looks like the collective Kiev mental illness is contagious!