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Kiev turns off cooperation with Russia in the military-industrial sphere

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According to the ITAR-TASS, on the ICTV television channel’s Freedom of Speech program, First Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Vitaly Yarema spoke, stating that Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko had banned cooperation with Russia in the military-industrial complex at a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council.

“At the meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, the President of Ukraine categorically banned cooperation with Russia in the military sphere,” Yarema said.

According to him, earlier and. President of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov signed a decree providing for the termination of cooperation with Russia in the field of production and supply of weapons. The first vice-premier noted that "it was allowed to cooperate only in the production of dual-use products, for example, engines for helicopters that can be used for both military and civilian purposes."

Petro Poroshenko’s statement was commented by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. According to him, the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation submitted to the military-industrial complex an import substitution plan for Ukrainian military products.

"Late. 10 June, on behalf of the Government of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Industry and Trade submitted to the MIC a plan for the full import substitution of military products from Ukraine. The plan is the result of the meticulous work of specialists: where, how and what, for what money, and when to produce, and who exactly is responsible, ”he wrote on his Facebook page.

According to experts, the gap in Russian-Ukrainian cooperation will affect the activities of 79 Ukrainian and 859 Russian defense enterprises.
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  1. RUSS
    RUSS 17 June 2014 09: 07
    +46
    Kiev turns off cooperation with Russia in the military-industrial sphere

    Another nail in the coffin-the economy of Ukraine!
    1. Cormorants
      Cormorants 17 June 2014 09: 11
      +22
      There is no other expectation from the current Ukrainian authorities. They purposefully do what is beneficial to Washington!
      1. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov 17 June 2014 09: 28
        +6
        I would have already started writing Washington with a capital letter everywhere and everywhere. Like the United States, for it does not inspire respect either.
      2. zzz
        zzz 17 June 2014 09: 44
        0
        Kiev needs to be renamed New Washington. Otherwise, it does not fit somehow ..
        1. Canister shot
          Canister shot 17 June 2014 11: 00
          0
          Then already in New Detroit is better - the embodiment of decline.

        2. gor530
          gor530 17 June 2014 14: 17
          +1
          I do not agree. do not confuse the Ukrainian junta with all the people. the Nazis come and go, but the people remain. in any case, Ukrainians will get out of the Nazi pit.
      3. Denis
        Denis 17 June 2014 09: 49
        +1
        Quote: Cormorants
        There is no other expectation from the current Ukrainian authorities. They purposefully do what is beneficial to Washington!

        The Ukraine that we knew is no more!
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    3. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 17 June 2014 09: 12
      +11
      Quote: RUSS
      Kiev turns off cooperation with Russia in the military-industrial sphere

      Another nail in the coffin-the economy of Ukraine!


      In my opinion, they are all on the drum, and Glazyev speaks about it very well, starting with 2: 30, all must look, the junta deliberately do not need plants associated with the Russian Federation:

      1. niklaus
        niklaus 17 June 2014 09: 41
        -5
        The most intelligent speech in recent years, a competent explanation of the situation and a forecast for the near future. But then the question is why the president is not listening to his adviser, is he a traitor like Gorbachev or not adequate, like Yeltsin, what's the matter.
        1. DMB87
          DMB87 17 June 2014 09: 45
          +2
          why doesn't the president listen to his adviser


          If that were so, then Glazyev would not be there. I do not think that he went to work as an adviser to GDP for mercantile or career reasons.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 17 June 2014 10: 12
          +2
          Quote: nicklaus
          why the president does not listen to his adviser, he is a traitor like Gorbachev or not as adequate as Yeltsin, what's the matter.

          Sorry, + accidentally set you.
    4. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 17 June 2014 09: 13
      +7
      Quote: RUSS
      Another nail in the coffin-the economy of Ukraine!

      The junta does not care about the economy, as I understand it. USA is needed as a training ground and a springboard in the fight against Russia ..
      1. comprochikos
        comprochikos 17 June 2014 09: 50
        +1
        Nifiga of these people does not care about the economic and industrial development of their own country, which they sacrifice because of stupid Russophobia. Probably hope for the West. They do not want mutually beneficial equal cooperation, so let them lick the ass of the West and lie under it like a corrupt girl. Goodbye, Square!
        WEST WILL HELP US !!
        1. Iline
          Iline 17 June 2014 10: 41
          0
          Just yesterday, there were several articles on this topic.
          The first is about the response to the sanctions against Russia. The second from the US State Department about supporting Ukraine.
          So, the State Department’s plan is already in operation, did not expect such quick steps. Now you can safely put an end to the military-industrial complex of Ukraine. Will produce pans like ours under Gorbachev.
    5. 222222
      222222 17 June 2014 09: 19
      +3
      ..hehe .. laughing "Kiev is curtailing ... the military-industrial sphere ... we will grow bananas ...
      1. divangeneral
        divangeneral 17 June 2014 12: 20
        +1
        Ukraine - Kirdyk
        even before the winter does not reach, the collapse will be
        workers will be left without work and take to the streets
        and a parade of sovereignty will go - the People’s Republic of Poland, the Dnieper, the People’s Republic, the People’s Republic ...
    6. from punk
      from punk 17 June 2014 09: 20
      0
      Quote: RUSS
      Another nail in the coffin-the economy of Ukraine!

      the main thing is that our people have time to switch to their own. and it is desirable that Ukraine would deliver what they paid for
    7. irina.mmm
      irina.mmm 17 June 2014 09: 21
      +3
      Kiev is so confident in itself that it does not see beyond its nose.
      It was forbidden to build South Stream, to receive Russian gas too, and then what. Some kind of quiet and weak statements. We look forward to the winters and insights of Europe.
    8. armageddon
      armageddon 17 June 2014 09: 42
      +3
      Hmm ... These suicide bombers ... They don’t understand Russia will only win ... Orders will go to HIS DEFENSE ... But THERE IS THEM economy and so THIRD ... And there will be PPC in general !!!
    9. deathfa
      deathfa 17 June 2014 09: 42
      0
      a good clove of several billion.
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      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 17 June 2014 09: 50
        +1
        Liked - “It was allowed to cooperate only in the production of dual-use products, for example, engines for helicopters, which can be used for both military and civilian purposes” Shish with butter do not want? fool
        1. comprochikos
          comprochikos 17 June 2014 10: 21
          0
          Yeah. If to stop, so to stop. She died, she died. Fuck you all from vocational schools 107. Yes
        2. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik 17 June 2014 11: 28
          0
          The same Motorsich is covered in one shaggy place, except for Russia there is nowhere for them to supply engines. It would be necessary to entice the plant’s specialists in full force.
    11. lukke
      lukke 17 June 2014 09: 53
      -1
      I apologize for the off-top, but can anyone have the opportunity to redeem and return to the veteran
      http://www.dostami.ru/Soviet-Russian-WWII-Silver-Combat-Service-Medal-29038/ebay
      -item / 171345061350? utm_source = sociomantic & utm_medium = retargeting & utm_campaign = rt
      b
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    13. annodomene
      annodomene 17 June 2014 10: 11
      +1
      Not a nail, but a hammer hammered laughing
      1. peter-tank
        peter-tank 17 June 2014 21: 15
        0
        As one familiar carpenter used to say: "A well-hammered self-tapping screw holds better than a well-twisted nail!" laughing
    14. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 June 2014 10: 14
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      Another nail in the coffin-the economy of Ukraine!

      One of the last, if not the last.
    15. bulvas
      bulvas 17 June 2014 10: 34
      +3
      Quote: RUSS
      Kiev turns off cooperation with Russia in the military-industrial sphere

      Another nail in the coffin-the economy of Ukraine!



      Now it is necessary ban limit $ 10 per day to the transfer of money to Ukraine and the export of cash and they themselves will go to join the militia
    16. mamont5
      mamont5 17 June 2014 10: 51
      0
      Quote: RUSS
      Another nail in the coffin-the economy of Ukraine!


      So why do they need production, they will now sell shale gas. True, they are not, but Ukrainians do not think about it.
    17. andrereu74
      andrereu74 17 June 2014 14: 18
      0
      I wonder what other "nails" do these clever men forget ???
  2. Gexzloy
    Gexzloy 17 June 2014 09: 10
    -35
    Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
    The truth of the good, too, is not expected.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 17 June 2014 09: 11
      +17
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.


      I hope ... you die dear hi
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 17 June 2014 09: 33
        +6
        Quote: The same Lech
        Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.


        I hope ... you die dear hi

        Is it respected? No.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 17 June 2014 09: 56
          +1
          I could also say Russian obscenities, but it’s forbidden by the rules of the site ... opponents must be treated with respect no matter what it is .... especially since I already received a warning for foul language (got into a skirmish with one forum member) from an ascetic I respect what I'm very sorry about.
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    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 17 June 2014 09: 13
      +12
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.


      Go ride on the Maidan am
    3. from punk
      from punk 17 June 2014 09: 14
      +12
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.

      America will help huh
      1. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 17 June 2014 09: 22
        +5
        Quote: punk
        America help yes?
        - America does not need them without Crimea! We are waiting for them to be thrown officially!
        1. Tor hummer
          Tor hummer 17 June 2014 09: 36
          +3
          Quote: Dazdranagon
          - America does not need them without Crimea! We are waiting for them to be thrown officially!

          While they can be used against Russia they will be needed. This must be understood ...
      2. Stiletto
        Stiletto 17 June 2014 09: 26
        +9
        Quote: punk
        America will help huh



        America has already helped a lot ... But bananas do not grow in Ukraine. For now, anyway. But potatoes are already banned for export to Russia.
        So, dear Ukraine, we are waiting for late autumn. Looking forward to. To say: "Summer sang red, so go - jump!".
    4. Cron1982
      Cron1982 17 June 2014 09: 16
      +10
      Amerkans will feed cookies. In order not to die at all, they could crawl and shout "Russia is to blame for everything."
    5. Cormorants
      Cormorants 17 June 2014 09: 19
      +5
      Interestingly, Antonov’s products will now be in great demand in the West)), they need you only as a workforce, as a territory that the Yankees want to tear from the spheres of influence of Russia. You are from those countries that are faced with the choice (unfortunately) with us or with them. So there is no talk of any sweet and sour banks after joining the European Union or NATO.
      And now your industry is re-profiling into the European market ??? Well, nafig, it's full of mine. You are waiting for an agricultural future!
      1. Cron1982
        Cron1982 17 June 2014 09: 28
        +3
        No one will let them into the European Union. it is not the Baltic states or Greece to join the people with a gulkin nose. Then put 40 million dormoids on my neck, I apologize for the expression, but you can’t say otherwise. Ukraine’s economy cannot offer anything, and if it can, no one will let the West go. As a result, Germany will go out of business, which already drags the whole EU. Ukraine has no choice with knim or us. Only to us, but for this a lot of ambition and no brains. But the West does not need them.
      2. Slavich
        Slavich 17 June 2014 09: 46
        +2
        Interestingly, Antonov’s products will now be in great demand in the West)),

        What Antonov. There, even "powder" sweets are not needed by anyone. They need slaves who will eat what even emigrants from Africa do not want to eat in Europe.
    6. a52333
      a52333 17 June 2014 09: 19
      +6
      Quote from GexZloy
      don't die, don't hope

      Do not die. Gathering and slash-and-burn farming can be engaged.
      It is worth asking a question: where will the shortened specialist with motor sich go if there is no work for him on the outskirts?
      guess yourself?
    7. fox21h
      fox21h 17 June 2014 09: 20
      +6
      You are not needed as competitors to the West, they will buy up and destroy everything quietly, if not, I will be glad, but you are ruled by a p.
      their power began to live well?
      Libya, Egypt, maybe Iraq?
      Well, if you take the countries of the eastern bloc, for example, Bulgaria, read how it is right there now.
      But it honestly amazes me how you got brainwashed, that you even forgot how to think and analyze them. Well, they’re rinsing your brain on TV, but they haven’t closed the Internet, you can compare what is happening and what they say, you can’t take everything that they say on faith?
    8. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 17 June 2014 09: 21
      +10
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.
      - die, do not die. This is not what we want. We want your government to think better of it, to understand that we only needed your products (even Iraq refused BRTs). And now? Return to the Middle Ages? Bravo! Why are the oligarchs brought to power? You are not consecutive! By the way, how are you doing with the wheat crop? This, too, was an import item from you! hi
    9. anip
      anip 17 June 2014 09: 21
      +5
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.

      Yes, of course you will not die. No doubt.
      Only now they used the word "anticipating". Hmmm. Savoring means possible comments in advance. It looks like some kind of sado-maso ... Strange, however.
    10. diff
      diff 17 June 2014 09: 25
      +2
      GexZloy UA
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

      The life of people like you teaches nothing. Look at the experience of Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Slovakia, Libya, Afgan .... and other similar "Druzev" of the USA and Gayropes. Just face it !!!
    11. from punk
      from punk 17 June 2014 09: 30
      +4
      Quote from GexZloy
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.
    12. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 17 June 2014 09: 35
      +1
      You don’t hope that we will die, but I can only sympathize with you, someday you will see, but it will be too late. Read the fairy tale "About the Fisherman and the Fish", maybe it will bring back something ...
    13. Denis
      Denis 17 June 2014 09: 51
      0
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

      Yes, and to hell with you all, do not care ..
    14. flexo
      flexo 17 June 2014 10: 10
      0
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.


      You have confused this site with a censor or unitary enterprise, for such comments you should go there, there are just people of the sort that you are looking for.
    15. avt
      avt 17 June 2014 10: 11
      0
      Quote from GexZloy
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

      A yak zhezh eurointegration and Ukraine tse Europa! ?? Really ass !? Ahh! Moccal erupted, it's time to gilyaku! laughing laughing Freedom Maidan is not very good? Or, finally, I saw that the prezik, put on by the US on the Kiev table, turned out to be an oligarch from a speckled deck where Ssynukovich was lying. Ali through the ass asshole in the East did it come to mind? Well this is unlikely.
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.

      And do not hope, feed yourself, but without gas.
    16. muginov2015
      muginov2015 17 June 2014 10: 36
      +1
      You certainly will not die, and you’ll be able to rub a trifle in your pockets.
    17. bulvas
      bulvas 17 June 2014 10: 38
      +2
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.



      whoever is lucky - will go to Poland - but clean up after the Poles, and your daughters - you know who

      However, you like such a life, your business
    18. RUSS
      RUSS 17 June 2014 10: 46
      +2
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.


      No one wants your death, be prudent and honest.
    19. GRAY
      GRAY 17 June 2014 11: 16
      0
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

      This is you write parashenka. He looms like a box for you, not us.
    20. Ryndabul
      Ryndabul 17 June 2014 11: 25
      +1
      Yes, no one will let you die ... In the end, Russia will help, and Belarus ... And the NATO occupiers who came to Ukraine from Lvov, etc. - are not eternal ... They will surely poke their attention to Russia, and then it will be "happiness" for them and their last ones. The only sad thing is that many real Ukrainians will have to pay with their lives ...
    21. Drednout
      Drednout 17 June 2014 12: 05
      +1
      Quote from GexZloy
      Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
      The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

      In fact, no one wants a dead neighbor. We hope that we will deal JUST with all this bloody booth and its instigators. We also cannot have anything good from your problems. +
    22. northern
      northern 17 June 2014 14: 24
      0
      And this is the statement of the "DEAD Head" private division?
    23. gor530
      gor530 17 June 2014 14: 25
      0
      then you still understand what you are doing. and you understand that for this it will be necessary to bear responsibility and first of all to his people
  3. tchoni
    tchoni 17 June 2014 09: 10
    +10
    Very very scary. Gay Royals SALA!
    1. avt
      avt 17 June 2014 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: tchoni
      Gay Royals SALA!

      laughing good Shroud of Gay Royals!
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 17 June 2014 09: 10
    +13
    “At the meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, the President of Ukraine categorically banned cooperation with Russia in the military sphere,” Yarema said.


    It has been predicted since the Maidan.
    Ukraine is an unreliable gas transit.
    Ukraine is an unreliable supplier to industry.

    Ukraine is generally an unreliable state .... changes the rules of the game with neighbors at its discretion.
    1. anip
      anip 17 June 2014 09: 23
      +5
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Ukraine is generally an unreliable state .... changes the rules of the game with neighbors at its discretion.

      Yes, she is already 20 years old, as an unreliable state. The farther, the more unreliable.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 17 June 2014 11: 02
        +1
        Quote: anip
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Ukraine is generally an unreliable state .... changes the rules of the game with neighbors at its discretion.

        Yes, she is already 20 years old, as an unreliable state. The farther, the more unreliable.


        Yes, she is not a state at all. Which state destroys itself?

        Plants decided to stop to save gas

        You have to be such eccentrics

    2. AnaBat
      AnaBat 17 June 2014 09: 32
      0
      The geyropa is still choking with them ... we’ll podzhodim ... unfortunately the Ukrainians have to go through this troubled time ... however ... sorry ...
    3. Tor hummer
      Tor hummer 17 June 2014 09: 44
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Ukraine is generally an unreliable state .... changes the rules of the game with neighbors at its discretion.

      Small clarification. Not at its discretion, but at the discretion of its American masters.
  5. fox21h
    fox21h 17 June 2014 09: 10
    +4
    What does it mean to collapse, it has long turned off, orders are no longer allowed across the border, news
    some rotten already
  6. polly
    polly 17 June 2014 09: 10
    +2
    Since everything in the world is subject to logic, the next "wise" decision of the next "wise" Ukrainian politician is no longer surprising.
  7. mig31
    mig31 17 June 2014 09: 10
    +4
    Kiev can’t turn anything down - Facington, represented by the State Department, turns off and tries to tighten the nuts of Russia, but time will show psakism, obanism and other ISMs will not be established in Eurasia ...
  8. STEALS
    STEALS 17 June 2014 09: 12
    -3
    Early in the morning of June 17, 2014, in the country house in Kiev, the body of the acting Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Andriy Deshchytsy. One of the official’s guards found the body on the territory
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 17 June 2014 09: 18
      0
      Is this verified information?
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 17 June 2014 09: 36
        +5
        Quote: Bombardier
        Is this verified information?

        It seems so far only a dream. But, according to Gazprom, dreams come true. hi
    2. tormazok
      tormazok 17 June 2014 09: 18
      +2
      Come on and kneel as Kadyrov promised
    3. anip
      anip 17 June 2014 09: 24
      0
      Quote: STEALS
      Early in the morning of June 17, 2014, in the country house in Kiev, the body of the acting Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Andriy Deshchytsy. One of the official’s guards found the body on the territory

      At the moment, there is nothing about this on the Internet.
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 17 June 2014 11: 12
        0
        And Ukrainian TV channels are silent too.
  9. Death to the Nazis
    Death to the Nazis 17 June 2014 09: 12
    0
    According to experts, the gap in Russian-Ukrainian cooperation will affect the activities of 79 Ukrainian and 859 Russian defense enterprises.

    Judging by the number of enterprises, the score is clearly not football, and in this situation it is not in favor of the Russians. (I am generally silent for Ukrainian) crying
    1. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 17 June 2014 09: 39
      +4
      You are mistaken, it is easier for 859 enterprises to master the production of the range of 79 enterprises, and not vice versa. For our industry, this is even good!
      1. Death to the Nazis
        Death to the Nazis 17 June 2014 09: 51
        +1
        There are technologies, developments. Often joint. It is clear that sooner or later Russia will be able to fix everything. But the former Ukraine - no.
    2. Drednout
      Drednout 17 June 2014 12: 12
      0
      Quote: Death to the Nazis

      Death to the Nazis (1) Today, 09:12 ↓ New
      According to experts, the gap in Russian-Ukrainian cooperation will affect the activities of 79 Ukrainian and 859 Russian defense enterprises.

      I have already read this information on some of the Svidomo sites, so that the "experts" can look a little lukewarm.
  10. dr.Bo
    dr.Bo 17 June 2014 09: 17
    0
    SO WHAT TO EXPECT FROM BENDER'S BOARD!
    THEY ARE THE APRIOR OF THE ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE!
    1. anip
      anip 17 June 2014 09: 27
      +1
      Quote: dr.Bo
      FROM BENDER'S BOARD

      Amendment: from bАnderovskogo.
    2. Slavich
      Slavich 17 June 2014 09: 52
      +3
      BENDER'S MANAGEMENT!

      Bender is a city in Transnistria. There live worthy people who repulsed the attack of the Moldovan troops during the military invasion in 1992. So they have no relation to BANDERS, on the contrary.
    3. Nekarmadlen
      Nekarmadlen 26 June 2014 19: 08
      0
      Quote: dr.Bo
      SO WHAT TO EXPECT FROM BENDER'S BOARD!
      THEY ARE THE APRIOR OF THE ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE!

      Listen, when you use unfamiliar terminology, look in the dictionary first.
  11. Balamyt
    Balamyt 17 June 2014 09: 17
    +3
    Quote: STEALS
    Early in the morning of June 17, 2014, in the country house in Kiev, the body of the acting Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Andriy Deshchytsy. One of the official’s guards found the body on the territory

    Where does infa come from? A link to the source pliz ...
    Or would I really like to ???
  12. Neighbor
    Neighbor 17 June 2014 09: 20
    +2
    Quote from GexZloy
    Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
    The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

    That's for sure, shoot ourselves but don’t die. Not Russia refused Ukrainian goods.
  13. Stypor23
    Stypor23 17 June 2014 09: 20
    +1
    It’s like in the early 80s, the states promised the gentry to buy different products from them, the Poles did something there, and the West refused to buy, as a result of bankruptcy, and our Polish hands and feet were forced to pay off Polish debts.
  14. mackonya
    mackonya 17 June 2014 09: 21
    +7
    Well this is how much you need to hate your country to make such a decision. It is simply amazing, it is interesting on what resources Ukraine is going to become prosperous, the South-East has already been lost, human resources will soon be depleted, and debt is growing. Although it’s understandable they (the authorities) will simply run away with money and another Maidan and another season of horse racing will begin.
    1. gmasterbit
      gmasterbit 17 June 2014 09: 29
      +6
      Yes, everything will be fine with them, Somalia and Albania live, nothing ...
  15. Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 17 June 2014 09: 21
    +3
    Quote: Death to the Fascists
    According to experts, the gap in Russian-Ukrainian cooperation will affect the activities of 79 Ukrainian and 859 Russian defense enterprises.

    Judging by the number of enterprises, the score is clearly not football, and in this situation it is not in favor of the Russians. (I am generally silent for Ukrainian) crying


    ..... THIS IS GOOD for RUSSIA; we CAN sew seams for ourselves!
    ..... when raising YOUR ECONOMY, "svoi" fosterlings of homopido-five-footed ones will come to light.
    ..... the hogwarts in the WINTER for havchik rush to the west, let their hozyanev cut.

    ..... you need to REMEMBER the VICTORIES of our grandfathers !!!
    ..... THEY are always evil spirits LOMALI ridges - WINTER !!!
    ..... The truth WILL BE, as usual, VICTIM.
  16. asar
    asar 17 June 2014 09: 23
    +5
    “At the meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, the President of Ukraine categorically banned cooperation with Russia in the military sphere,” Yarema said.


    Well, fools are inveterate! What else is there to add ?! THERE IS NOTHING!
    Quote from GexZloy
    Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
    The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

    Well, about "we won't die": Nuland will "gallop" with cookies ?! And the fact that "nothing good either ..." - you are in the subject, dear! But maybe rearrange - at first "nothing good", and only after, with a big stretch - "we will not die"! How do you like that ?! laughing
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 June 2014 09: 26
    +3
    Yes, I would just be scared to buy something from them. Or then, after the purchase, iterate over the cog. And so, in general, everything is clear, the threads break, at least formally connecting us.
  18. MIST096
    MIST096 17 June 2014 09: 26
    +4
    Quote: The same Lech
    “At the meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, the President of Ukraine categorically banned cooperation with Russia in the military sphere,” Yarema said.


    It has been predicted since the Maidan.
    Ukraine is an unreliable gas transit.
    Ukraine is an unreliable supplier to industry.

    Ukraine is generally an unreliable state .... changes the rules of the game with neighbors at its discretion.

    Yes there is no such state
  19. Bombardier
    Bombardier 17 June 2014 09: 30
    +1
    Near Gorlovka (Donetsk region), militia fighters repelled an air raid by the Ukrainian Air Force; one Su-25 plane was allegedly shot down. This was reported by ITAR-TASS representative of the militia in Gorlovka.

    “On Monday evening, Ukrainian planes made an air raid on the DPR commissariat. When bending a pilot from the commissariat opened anti-aircraft fire. Apparently, because of this, the pilot was unable to carry out targeted bombing, the bomb fell in the wasteland, no one was injured. The plane was hooked, after which it began to decline and, allegedly, exploded. The search team continues to search for the site of the alleged explosion of the aircraft. There were two explosions, ”he said.

    Earlier, the press service of the proclaimed DPR could not confirm or deny this information.
  20. siberalt
    siberalt 17 June 2014 09: 33
    0
    "Kiev turns off ..." Let's agree with Novorossiya. laughing Money is needed there. Thank you for pushing to expand the ruble zone.
  21. Bombardier
    Bombardier 17 June 2014 09: 34
    +1
    And on the topic - an example of reason:
    WASHINGTON, Jun 17 - RIA Novosti, Pyotr Martynychev, Lyudmila Chernova. The US State Department put pressure on the Minnesota state authorities to cancel the conference on innovation with the participation of Russians, but the event was held with great success, state secretary Mark Ritchie told RIA Novosti.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140617/1012308363.html#ixzz34s8koDzc
  22. portoc65
    portoc65 17 June 2014 09: 34
    +2
    I’ll die myself, but the neighbor Nasser-Ukrainian historical mentality ..
  23. Gexzloy
    Gexzloy 17 June 2014 09: 41
    -7
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    I hope ... you die dear

    this post the whole essence of Russia

    Quote: Dazdranagon
    Why are the oligarchs brought to power?

    and who was needed?

    Quote: asar
    But maybe rearrange - at first "nothing good", and only after, with a big stretch - "we will not die"! How do you like that ?!

    don't mind
    I don’t understand what we will export :)
    but the Russians have recently said and done so much evil - that you really want to get away from you - even if it's stupid.

    Quote: MIST096
    Yes there is no such state

    you realize that soon the same will happen with Russia, but I think it’s worse.
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 17 June 2014 10: 27
      +4
      Quote from GexZloy
      this post the whole essence of Russia
      - Do not judge so immediately, just as they say - Many people have DIGGED! There’s more of a jamb of Putin - he promised not to abandon the Southeast, and they hoped, but it’s coming out ... Time will tell how it is coming out! It’s too early to judge.
      and who was needed?
      - there was no need to shout "get from the power of the oligarchs"! Here it is clear that only North Korea got rid of them!
      but the Russians have recently said and done so much evil - that you really want to get away from you - even if it's stupid
      - what is evil, answer!
      you realize that soon the same will happen with Russia, but I think it’s worse.
      - will not be. Artificial Ukraine was a state; it was impossible to unite the West and the East! With Russia, everything is a little different - the republics, which as part of us have fairly broad rights! We did not forbid their native language! hi
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 17 June 2014 10: 48
        +3
        Dazdranagon

        Nicely answered, catch the "+"

        - there was no need to shout "get from the power of the oligarchs"! Here it is clear that only North Korea got rid of them!


        I will add from myself. What else oligarchs are not in power in Belarus. But this is not so fundamentally important. After all, they stood on the Maidan, like for European democratic values: respect for the individual with his rights and freedoms, for an independent judicial system, etc. But at the finish line, we got another layout. As deputy Chechetov said: "They were bred like kittens." The Americans did not even manage to put a prezik in a chair - a "social activist" and some national hero of the Maidan (Lech Walesa of the Ukrainian spill), thereby missing the chance to wipe Russia's nose. Fuckers do not deserve, even to imitate democracy, only the Latin American version - the dictatorship of the junta-oligarchs.
    2. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 17 June 2014 10: 51
      +2
      Quote from GexZloy
      this post the whole essence of Russia


      No, not all. Do not pay attention to such. Nobody wants you death. As I understand it, you too.
      Quote from GexZloy
      but the Russians have recently said and done so much evil - that you really want to get away from you - even if it's stupid.

      What did the Russians do wrong to you? Crimea left? MYSELF ... I see, it's a shame.
      Quote from GexZloy
      you realize that soon the same will happen with Russia, but I think it’s worse.

      This will NOT happen to Russia ... Including thanks to the events in Ukraine. Didn't think why we don't jump and march with slogans: - "X ... fishing with knives and gilyak?" Have you all been brainwashed specifically, but do you have a head? (For example, you) Turn on, analyze ...
  24. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 17 June 2014 09: 43
    +1
    It’s good that they banned: we’ll set up our own and good specialists will come to us. Let Poroshenko set up production of choppers.
  25. Giant thought
    Giant thought 17 June 2014 09: 48
    0
    This once again underscores the enormous debitism of Poroshenko and the entire fascist junta.
  26. KAVS
    KAVS 17 June 2014 09: 51
    0
    Everything that was built over the years collapses in an instant !!!!!!
  27. demidoff-59
    demidoff-59 17 June 2014 09: 52
    0
    In principle, all this was expected! It is better to do it now, otherwise the problems will be higher than the roof! In "GROMADA" the roof is already tearing completely !!!
  28. Gorbtk
    Gorbtk 17 June 2014 09: 52
    +7
    Well, these are arms, chop off legs, etc., etc. here is a wonderful picture about this I remembered
  29. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 17 June 2014 09: 52
    0
    Quote from GexZloy
    Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
    The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

    And we are not evil sinners, we do not hope! But stick to the flip and pay the bills!
    Although what I mean, everything is fine with you! and we are here in the Russian Federation somehow.
  30. Dbnfkmtdbx
    Dbnfkmtdbx 17 June 2014 09: 53
    +1
    And who made Parashenko a president with that, and it’s necessary to talk and not with these puppets anyway, conversations with them will end in nothing; shake
  31. Russ69
    Russ69 17 June 2014 09: 54
    0
    Are you going to return money for paid products? Or, our government, will tryndet again about partnerships?
  32. Bombardier
    Bombardier 17 June 2014 09: 55
    +1
    [quote = GexZloy]
    but the Russians have recently said and done so much evil - that you really want to get away from you - even if it's stupid.

    Take the trouble to explain how much and what evil the Russians did in Ukraine? Please provide arguments. (I didn’t put any cons on your first comment, because of the reason - you expressed your opinion without insults)
  33. kolyhalovs
    kolyhalovs 17 June 2014 09: 59
    0
    Kiev turns off cooperation with Russia in the military-industrial sphere


    Class! They already turned once, didn't they? After the Crimea. And then it turns out that they are regularly supplying, so to speak, the aggressor and their main enemy in the Universe with weapons !? Even after Russia grabbed three regions from them, did they continue to do so? Class! This means that they have absolutely sadness-sorrow with the economy. The terrible Putin took a bite of his foot, ankle, knee, gets close to the holy of holies, and they sharpen his teeth ... Class!
    Z.Y. This statement surprisingly coincides with the moment of gas shutdown. Apparently, without gas, industry will have to be stopped anyway, but here you can patriotically slam the door ...
  34. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 17 June 2014 09: 59
    +1
    Quote: Aleks1254
    Andrey Deshchitsa shot himself


    These do not shoot, weakly weak.
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 17 June 2014 10: 01
      0
      Bravo, cleverly noticed!
  35. Blondin nikonov
    Blondin nikonov 17 June 2014 10: 01
    0
    The time will come and your overseas friends to ask for their invested money, which will not be there, then wait for surprises from them ......
  36. Bombardier
    Bombardier 17 June 2014 10: 03
    0
    And yet I would like to hear from GexZloy UA Today, 09:41 the answer to my question, the one above ....
  37. donavi49
    donavi49 17 June 2014 10: 07
    +2
    In general, it is critically bad for BP, USC and TRV. The rest is tolerant.

    Short:

    By helicopters.
    Sich makes 700 engines for Russia from 850 annual. Due to the nature of the supply, about 2 / 3 of the 2014 plan was delivered for this year.
    Our promise to assemble 50 engines in 2014.

    That is, it will be necessary to choose what to do. Announce force majeure and move export contracts that hit the wallet, or deliver the 2014 plan of the year, hoping that everything will resolve in the 2015 year, the engines will go again. But if they will not go this issue of 30-50 helicopters in 2015 year... And an even bigger blow to the wallet and production.

    According to our capacities - in the process. If the maximum is 350 engines per year to 17. Which is clearly not enough.

    But there’s another question, how this ban works. If they close their cooperation completely with companies working in the RF Ministry of Defense, then this is very bad. If only military, then again you can take the engines on a civil / export order and execute it honestly, then the strike will be very easy, 1 helicopters will spend a year and then go on 100 + again, already on their own. But if these are serious restrictions, that is, Sich no longer supplies BP engines, then this is very bad for the holding.

    By aircraft.
    An-148 - remember crying , the plane finally died. For engines and kits, as well as equipment comes from Ukraine.
    Be-200 - remember or it will come out very expensive, the engines will have to be set up for the sake of the series in 10-15 machines.
    Yak-130 - year landing, then the UEC compensates. Here Ivchenko will suffer more, they have TEETH ON THE SHELF there.

    On the ships.
    - 11356, the last two can be disassembled. 4 kit delivered, 1 did not have time to deliver, assembled at the Dawn and drove to the stand, literally 1 month was not enough. There is no way to fix it, for the sake of 2 engines.
    - Cheetah, the situation is the same as in 11356, except that you can change the type of installation. But Rosoboronexport will have difficult negotiations with Vietnamese comrades.
    - There are 22350, 2-3 of the set, they are loaded on Gorshkov and Kasatonov, on the third question, did you manage to send the turbine. Theoretically, it is possible to arrange the release, but it takes time, we didn’t even have a stand for running, until recently.

    A trifle, will hit hard on VTG, repair and supported equipment. For example, GOS and kits for P-27 and other products of Artem. Yes, Artem will simply finally bend from this, but this is not easier. And so in all areas.
    1. PLO
      PLO 17 June 2014 15: 03
      0
      Sich makes 700 engines for Russia from 850 annual. Due to the nature of the supply, about 2 / 3 of the 2014 plan was delivered for this year.

      it’s not so bad here.
      there are plans for the supply of helicopters with old uncapitalized engines with subsequent replacement. may have to move domestic orders, or agree with foreign customers.
      and there in a year and a half, the problem will be solved.
      in any case, if MotorSich completely shuts off supplies, then it will be fatal for him. besides, VR can give them a boost in the possibilities of independent remotorization of old helicopters.

      you forgot An-124 on planes.

      22350, there are 2-3 sets, on Gorshkov and Kasatonov they are loaded, on the third question, did they manage to send the turbine. Theoretically, it is possible to arrange the release, but it takes time, we didn’t even have a stand for running, until recently.

      like and still no. while only building. Saturn will be messing around a couple of years.

      in any case, as has been said here more than once. the Russian Federation will have quite serious problems, and the VPK of Ukraine for the most part will simply be bent.
  38. 2224460
    2224460 17 June 2014 10: 07
    +2
    Quote from GexZloy
    Anticipating the comments I will say right away, do not die, do not expect.
    The truth of the good, too, is not expected.

    And we are not happy when Brother is "fucking" and do not jump for joy, just what did you exchange Native Blood for Coca-Cola, Brother did not please you with something, but did you try to hear Brother or an uncle overseas with hot dogs plugged your ears and good life. Not to recognize relatives and "shun" her is a Great Sin, then do not pray.
  39. made13
    made13 17 June 2014 10: 18
    0
    A logical step is the one who pays the music. It is a pity that the authorities in Kiev are not prostitutes - they could be bought. Like Janek. Now there are convinced enemies of the Russian and Ukrainian people at the helm. These understand the language of power. In fact, these are the faithful slaves of their masters, who believe that they themselves are gentlemen - exclusive and God-chosen. It is impossible to agree with such characters - they will consider that to deceive, destroy or just to spoil - good. With these freaks, only one opportunity to negotiate is 100% prepayment. Including gas.
  40. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 17 June 2014 10: 19
    0
    And I thought they curtailed cooperation, they had been threatening for a long time, but they are still curtailing, believe friends, the next step will be a complete rupture of diplomatic relations, and even a great Ukrainian wall will be built.
  41. Michael
    Michael 17 June 2014 10: 20
    +1
    It is unfortunate, but the escalation of the conflict is inevitable, but at the end of the industry and Ukraine as a whole, Khan
  42. volot-voin
    volot-voin 17 June 2014 10: 22
    0
    If God wants to punish someone, it takes his mind.
    1. kind
      kind 17 June 2014 10: 36
      0
      The junta does not need the Ukrainian economy, they don’t need the people, they work out cookies for which they sold the country's national wealth. The people are frightened by the reprisals, but at a certain stage, when everything is taken away, fear will turn into a rage. We wait.
  43. darksoul
    darksoul 17 June 2014 10: 27
    +1
    Quote from GexZloy
    don't mind
    I don’t understand what we will export :)
    but the Russians have recently said and done so much evil - that you really want to get away from you - even if it's stupid.


    and what evil did? The Crimea was taken which Khrushchev foolishly gave and Yeltsin did not pick up drunk during the collapse, although Kravchuk did not return then? when did you shout the fleet I read on your forums for fun, so there they shouted that it was a burden, well, them, that drunks and scoops were resting there? Constant insults even at the level of dignitaries? or do you have Russians fighting in the east? and no refugees? I’ll tell you, in our south, cars with Ukrainian license plate numbers ... probably not from a better life. He took one family, to friends .... he walked with children in the playground and they with bags ... father mother and son 2 years old, the lost people did not know what to do ..... so you're not looking for evil there .
  44. Gexzloy
    Gexzloy 17 June 2014 10: 27
    +2
    Quote: KAVS
    Everything that was built over the years collapses in an instant !!!!!!

    not without the help of Russia, the first step was made by you


    Quote: Bombardier
    Take the trouble to explain how much and what evil the Russians did in Ukraine? Please provide arguments. (I didn’t put any cons on your first comment, because of the reason - you expressed your opinion without insults)

    1. Gas at 485 is the highest price in Europe. It’s not like fraternal even partnerships. The goal was to bend Ukraine, the GDP wanted to show who is the boss in the house. The result we do not pay, and full reintegration.
    2. Crimea - I won’t go down in history, for many centuries the Crimea was only 170-180 for years, why did you decide that they are the decisive only Russians know. After the collapse of the union, the leaders defined the borders of the states. According to international law, it was a seizure of the territory, and without blood it turned out, because the Ukrainian military could not understand what to do, shoot Russian at that as if it were a Ukrainian, hoping that the politicians would decide. Next we know.
    3. Donbass - I do not know what Russian participation is there. Logically, I think not much, but the skeleton, commanders, instructors, plus possibly weapons like MANPADS.
    4. The information war, the worst. You mix us with shit so much that you trample on the last remnants of a friendly country. I think today the Ukrainian soldier will hesitate less at the sight of the Russian and this is called sailed.
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 17 June 2014 10: 38
      +2
      Quote from GexZloy
      1. Gas at 485 is the highest price in Europe. It’s not like fraternal even partnerships.


      Sorry, this is not true. I can be mistaken, but the average price in Europe is about 405 tugriks per 1000 m3. Your freeloaders want 265 ... For what? If not difficult, list.
    2. Bombardier
      Bombardier 17 June 2014 10: 51
      +2
      Dear, have you read the gas contract? Which by the way was signed by the same people who are now in power. So if you take the trouble to read it, you will find out why such a price (do you think the price for transit has the lowest price in the world ?, specify what percentage of the gas volume was resold by Ukraine, and it does not matter that this money went into Yulka's pocket! if you conditionally produce a product, they buy it from you at a "fraternal price", and resell it to your customers cheaper - undermining your business - this is of course the Russians did evil! Do not enter into such contracts, for this they put one ghoul, an aunt with a scythe in a sanatorium, and her friends let her out, confirming the correctness of the signing of the contract! Yes, and they are not bothering about you with the price of gas, but about their pocket, so that they can resell again!
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 17 June 2014 11: 10
        0
        Quote: Bombardier
        specify what percentage of the gas volume was resold by Ukraine, and it does not matter that this money went into Yulka's pocket! Imagine if you produce a conditionally product, they buy it from you at a "brotherly price", and resell it to your customers at a cheaper rate -


        They will not know this.
    3. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 17 June 2014 11: 02
      +3
      Gexzloy
      2. Crimea - I won’t go down in history, for many centuries the Crimea was only 170-180 for years, why did you decide that they are the decisive only Russians know. After the collapse of the union, the leaders defined the borders of the states. According to international law, it was a seizure of the territory, and without blood it turned out, because the Ukrainian military could not understand what to do, shoot Russian at that as if it were a Ukrainian, hoping that the politicians would decide. Next we know.


      And nothing that the Crimea was taken away from the RSFSR, in violation of the laws of the USSR in 1954 year? And nothing that the whole Crimean cell of the CPSU was against? And nothing, that in 1991 Crimea held a local referendum on secession from Ukraine? And nothing that the UN Secretary General acknowledged the fact of the absence of the approved borders of Ukraine, after the collapse of the USSR?

      for many centuries the Crimea was Russian only 170-180 years


      And how much was he Ukrainian? A counter question, if we already started counting years? And how many New Russia in years (legally, in terms of state and law) was part of the Ukrainian SSR and Ukraine, can you tell me? Maybe with 1922 year? Because in Ukraine there were not enough proletarians, and the Bolsheviks from the lordly shoulder threw whole regions and former provinces of the Russian Empire to you? Yes, Little Russia, was also the province of RI, but when was it in the status of a sebject? 1648-1654 year? This is not even 180 years of possession of the Crimea. This is the term of the Kuchma Presidency, which will go down in the history of Ukraine, the golden years of the relative stability of Ukraine (1996-2004)
    4. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 17 June 2014 11: 04
      +3
      not without the help of Russia, the first step was made by you
      - before Maidan, we offered you a loan of 15 billion euros at a meager percentage. Where did you send us? You banned the Russian language and wanted to make a NATO base in Crimea! So where did we take the first step? They did not persuade on their knees not to be wired for EU wiring ?!
      Quote from GexZloy
      3. Donbass - I do not know what Russian participation is there. Logically, I think not much, but the skeleton, commanders, instructors, plus possibly weapons like MANPADS.
      - You have correctly noticed - "possible"! And you have American instructors, mercenaries from Sweden ... And no one hides this!
      Quote from GexZloy
      4. The information war, the worst. You mix us with shit so much
      - common people are not mixed up - proof - we have a lot of cars in the city with Ukrainian numbers - and they are still WHOLE !!! But soon you will no longer feel sorry for such statements - "the Ukrainian soldier will hesitate less at the sight of a Russian!" What are you hanging? Don't just watch your news, ask us how we feel about you! We still BELIEVE that everything will end peacefully, of course you have lost Donbass and Lugansk! And this is only YOUR politicians' fault! Russia has nothing to do with it! hi
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 17 June 2014 11: 13
        +2
        Quote: Dazdranagon
        ! And this is only the fault of YOUR politicians! Russia has nothing to do with it!


        Briefly, carefully, sensibly hi
    5. PLO
      PLO 17 June 2014 15: 05
      0
      the first step was made by you

      bad history


      The information war is the worst.

      what irony)
  45. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 17 June 2014 10: 27
    0
    Have the prepayments been returned? Have you delivered the paid products? Or is it another option for the "president" of Ukraine to steal someone else's property. As I understand it, there will be no appeal to international courts from Russia, what for then to be a member of them, go there and the fees are not feeble.
  46. ZSP
    ZSP 17 June 2014 10: 28
    +1
    Why do they need choppers, they will now become a gas producing state and will live as in the AOE, it remains only to figure out where and how to produce gas ....

    And on the account of the termination of cooperation, there is no silver lining - as people say.
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  48. Buryi
    Buryi 17 June 2014 10: 30
    +1
    For a general picture ...

    Belarus has closed the market for Ukrainian sweets
    http://vz.ru/news/2014/6/16/691435.html

    hi
  49. Russ69
    Russ69 17 June 2014 10: 35
    +1
    Do not bury the Ukrainian defense industry ahead of time. Something may and will suffer, but not critical. Now purchases have begun for the Ukrainian Armed Forces and will continue later. Americans will help create a more or less normal army and pro finance, this is the case. Because it’s in their interests ...
    1. PLO
      PLO 17 June 2014 15: 11
      0
      unsubstantiated populist statements are not purchases of military equipment.
  50. Gexzloy
    Gexzloy 17 June 2014 10: 42
    +4
    Quote: 2224460
    And we are not happy when Brother is "fucking" and do not jump for joy

    believe me, when your guys died in Chechnya, and it was a civil war in its own way, Chechnya also wanted independence, none of the Ukrainians were happy, but were sorry because the Russians are much closer and more expensive to us. But these guys will still show themselves, once the GDP authorities weaken, and Kadyrov will show his face. I assume that Russians understand that Caucasians cannot be trusted in Muslims.

    Quote: darksoul
    The Crimea was taken which Khrushchev foolishly gave and Yeltsin did not pick up drunk during the collapse, although Kravchuk did not return then?

    under Khrushchev, we flew into space in a fool, under Yeltsin we did not lie drunk under America, it’s not for you to judge their decisions.

    Quote: darksoul
    when did you shout the fleet

    How do we drive the Russian fleet? than? one rusty submarine? We started talking about NATO after the Crimea, we don’t even need it here, the Ukrainians always considered Russia to be the guarantor of their security, they made the mistake of who he hoped and roasted.

    Quote: darksoul
    I’ll tell you, in our south, cars with Ukrainian license plate numbers ... probably not from a better life.

    there is really war, therefore they leave, and they go there where relatives or friends

    Quote: darksoul
    He took one family, to friends .... he walked with children in the playground and they with bags ... father mother and son 2 years old, the lost people did not know what to do ..... so you're not looking for evil there .

    Thank you.
    I’m not looking for evil, I have always been a pro-Russian comrade, and deep down I still hope that there’s just a relative war between the West and Russia over the sphere of influence - Ukraine, and you are losing this war, the West has achieved its own, Ukrainian hatred towards Russians. If GDP didn’t approach Ukraine from a position to bend, we saw these Americans in a coffin. But the GDP constantly kept us in good shape, and after the Crimea we are banally looking for an adequate force for protection.

    All zamususuyut. I can’t write anymore. If you like to sing in chorus, and not discuss the situation with an opponent who has a different view, your right. I don’t know when they will unblock it.
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 17 June 2014 10: 58
      +3
      Quote from GexZloy
      therefore they leave, but go there where relatives or friends


      Here are the golden words !!! Relatives or friends !!! So what the hell are you letting the amers embody their geopolitical ambitions at the expense of your and our blood?
    2. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 17 June 2014 11: 19
      +4
      the West has achieved its goal, the hatred of Ukrainians for Russians. If only GDP approached Ukraine not from a position to bend
      - I already wrote somewhere about the loan offer to the Maidan. Let's just say that the West did the same as during the collapse of the USSR - bought your politicians, brainwashed young people ... And you are being fled to the EU - just look at Greece-Spain-Portugal!
      If you like to sing in chorus, and not discuss the situation with an opponent who has a different look
      - You constantly blame Russia for your troubles, that's why everyone minuses you. But you do not give arguments!
      1. builder
        builder 17 June 2014 12: 32
        0
        Better hard to say:
        Svetlana Drobah
        ".... The most lousy and offensive thing is that Ukraine is like a downed neighbor drunk. You give him a loan at first, and he pisses at your door, you just give him for vodka, if only he doesn't shit, but he When he meets you, he spits in the face and smiles. You will swing at him, and he falls and screams - they kill! Other neighbors come running to the scream and say: how are you not ashamed to offend a wretched person? You try to explain something, but they don't hear you. In the morning this basement pinch will come again for the attendant on duty and you are unlikely to refuse him. Khokhlyandiya is our cross. They are not brothers - eternal dependents, ungrateful ... "
    3. builder
      builder 17 June 2014 11: 38
      +3
      Quote from GexZloy
      believe me, when your guys died in Chechnya, and it was a civil war in its own way, Chechnya also wanted independence, none of the Ukrainians were happy, but regretted, because the Russians are much closer and more expensive to us. But these guys will still show themselves, once the GDP authorities weaken, and Kadyrov will show his face. I assume that Russians understand that Caucasians cannot be trusted in Muslims.

      Closer and more expensive .... what are you .... balobol. Street D. Dudaev in Lviv just screaming about who was closer and more expensive to you ....
      UNA-UNSO militants fought in both Chechen companies, participated in the attack on Dagestan, committees "in support of Chechnya" and information centers "Chechen-press" were created in large cities of Ukraine.
      Remember the participation of the Ukrainian. military in the war 08.08.08, when they shot down our planes in Georgia.