Stock Lt. Col. Vasily Pavlov from the experience of the war in Syria about the threat of a terrorist war in Russia

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Imagine for a start. I'm a lieutenant colonel in stock. He spent a little more than a year in Syria with the troops of the Republican Guard as a volunteer, a military reporter. I was shooting and, naturally, of how the Syrian army acts, what problems arose and ... I have already voiced earlier and wanted to tell people who may not be closely connected with this topic to discuss, looked at possible threats based on the Syrian experience, threats that may arise from us. Look at the urgency of the problems based on the Libyan-Syrian, and now on the basis of the Libyan-Syrian-Ukrainian experience.



One of our military theorists said, “Today, Russian military science does not give us a clear understanding of what today's war can be. Therefore, we will prepare for something. ”In a nutshell somewhere like that. In fact, if military science does not give us such an answer, then it is very sad. In fact, this answer is - it is absolutely clear what type of war is most likely today. The concept of modern war has absolutely changed today and is caused by the following reasons: the development of the confrontation between the USSR and the USA led to the fact that the means of defeat were constantly improved and complicated. There was a situation when the means of destruction began to cost more than the objects of defeat and the war in the form in the Soviet and post-Soviet times, the war with the help of high technology and high-level armies is not profitable. I think everyone will agree that war is an economic concept, it has economic roots. As a result of the war, either side tries to achieve some kind of result, which can then be converted into an economy. And today the situation is such that a modern army with aggression against any state is not capable of defeating with acceptable costs. Losses of the aggressor, not to mention the fact that a retaliatory strike is possible - weapon mass destruction is widespread in our country, which will definitely make losses unacceptable - even the aggression of a strong country against a weak one is economically unprofitable. The losses are so great (economic precisely) that the whole point of the war is lost. This was shown by Yugoslavia, where NATO incurred expenses such as if it had lost the war. Example: about 2 thousands of cruise missiles, more than 3 thousands of sorties could not destroy the tiny air defense of Yugoslavia. NATO forces could not launch a [ground] operation before this problem was not resolved by political means.

- How much is a cruise missile? Somewhere a million dollars, and now probably ten.

“I don't know exactly, but somewhere like that.” The armored personnel carrier shot down by such a rocket costs somewhere 300 thousands .... They could win, but the consequences of such a victory negated the result.

And therefore, the concept of a new method of warfare was created - a terrorist war with the help of cheap mass force hired on the spot and in neighboring countries. Thousands of untrained militants are cheaper than one trained soldier with modern means of warfare. Jewelin (FGM-148 Javelin - American portable anti-tank complex) stands as a thousand militants. The damage from a thousand militants clearly exceeds the damage from such a complex.

Terrorist armies are cheap, massive, effective, plus there is no way to strike back. Because the terrorist army does not belong to anyone, there is no one to strike. Everyone knows the owners of the army, who sponsors it, but formally no complaints are made. Such a terrorist war consists of several components:

1. reducing the living standards of neighboring countries and creating points of instability in them, places where militants can be recruited, where the sluggish conflict allows them to penetrate the border, where the people have weapons. And this allows creating a permanent source of militants on the border of the state. The decline in living standards in neighboring countries leads to a reduction in the cost of militants. Unleashing religious or national hysteria, working the media and then sponsoring and providing weapons. In fact, Ukraine, in my opinion, is suitable for the parameters and for what is happening in it as a country of preparation in it a springboard. We see what is happening in Ukraine now. This process itself was the task [goal].

The same in Syria. It is absolutely clear to everyone that the militants cannot win. But this is not the goal - to win. Victory [goal] is instability, the process of war. We can have migrant workers as a source of manpower (if they haven’t had a life, they haven’t found themselves there, either), local Wahhabis are coming. Wahhabism, unfortunately, has begun to move forward strongly in our country - it is a current that does not recognize half tones, they are ready to die on the matter itself. Plus, our militants who have returned from Syria from Chechnya will be of great help to a possible aggressor. They unequivocally say that in Syria they are preparing for war here. And the nationalists, oddly enough, Russian. Because they will be the source, most likely, the creation of collisions and as "meat" for the opposite side.
Many people have told me that this is impossible in Syria, because we do not have such mass Wahhabism. But in Ukraine it turned out to be possible to unleash a war in a short time with minimal costs. We can always find a reason. Absolutely no difference - religion is, the national question, the economy or the other. The occasion is just an occasion, but there is always “meat” for it.
What is the danger of a terrorist war as opposed to a conventional war? If in an ordinary war the army fights against the army, then in a terrorist one, where the goal is not victory, but the war itself - the militants are fighting against the population. And not a single army in the world is able to protect its population from militants. All armies, absolutely everything - neither the level of development of the state, nor technical capabilities matter - all armies are designed to withstand the same army. A small example. Thousands of militants in Jobar can occupy territory, for knocking out which they need at least 50 thousands of soldiers. Why? How can the army protect the population? It is necessary to protect every person in this area. It is necessary to securely enclose this territory so that the fighters do not break through (and the fighters can attack / break from any direction), and saturate the territory inside with troops. Those. no state is able to maintain an army capable of protecting more than one or two settlements simultaneously from militants. If all the armed forces of Russia are attracted, they will be able to defend Moscow - to saturate it with troops so that the militants will not be able to act. Or Leningrad. Or Novosibirsk plus Khabarovsk. Everything! Many wonder why the Syrian army has already reached the 600 of thousands and is unable to win. The army is not able to win this war because the task of defense of all settlements is at the same time impossible. And the militants, unlike the classical army, can attack several any point at any time and at the same time. If, in the presence of a front [in a classical war], there is a line of contact, then in the case of a terrorist war, the entire territory of the country is completely a front line. No troops are fundamentally enough.

Nord-Ost showed us that 20 of practically unarmed militants (light firearms) were destroyed for almost three days by almost all the terrorist forces of the country. At the same time there were victims of the population. The cinema is not the most difficult object in terms of cleaning. Residential building is much more difficult problems. If such groups are, for example, 50 (and a thousand people are simply recruited), they will not only paralyze a city like St. Petersburg (well, 1,5 can need thousands for Moscow), plus destroy a huge population of people without destroying the object of their attack cannot be destroyed. The examples in Syria are very obvious - where the army is trying to destroy the militants on its own, the city is still demolished as a result. Since the times of the Great Patriotic War, it is known that a city cannot be taken if it defends itself until it is destroyed. All cities either surrender to avoid destruction - the enemy retreats, seeing the advantage [of the opposite side], or collapse. Stalingrad, Berlin [Voronezh] - vivid examples of cities that defended. In the case of terrorists it is still much more complicated. Because their task is to terrorize the local population, they do not need to come into opposition with the army, on the contrary, they are trying to avoid it. Their target is unarmed citizens. And the police here is an object that will help the militants. (I'm telling everything by the example of Syria). Where do the gunmen get their weapons? They need the minimum armament with which they attack police stations that are not absolutely protected. Gain a weapon there. Then, with this weapon, they attack the army warehouses, which are in the rear and therefore unprotected, are gaining heavy weapons. Those. even without external support, within a few days any terrorist army is able to arm itself. Neither the army, nor the police, nor counter-terrorism units are able to cope. There is a solution, but unfortunately, it is very difficult [to bring it to the decision-makers]. I don’t know the reason why no one talks about it, and no one thinks about it among our command. But Syria has clearly shown that the only option for the protection of settlements is the presence of militia in them. Only the army, based on the army, is able to protect the settlements. What is meant by the militia? This is not walking the streets men with machine guns. How is it made in Syria? These are civilians, most of whom served in the army (although this is not necessary), who know how to contact the commander in case of anything. The commander is an army officer. Valid or in stock. He periodically collects them (they know each other), arranges them. At the same time they live an ordinary peaceful life. They know the signal, the commander knows where to get the weapon. The advantage of such units over the army and the militants is that they all fight, unlike the army on their territory, which they know. The militia should not be constantly on alert, but it should be able to gather, be controlled and have coordination with the security forces. Without this, not a single case of attack by bandits in Syria was prevented where there was no interaction between the militia and the security forces. If the militia acts independently, without interaction with the security forces, then it is useless. An example of a village attack. They had a great squad, but a thousand people around the clock can expose no more than 10-15 people - they need to work, they need to sleep. And the group of militants in 100 bayonets knocks him down. And if there are thousands of 2 militants, they don’t even notice such militia. The task of the militia is not an army function to stop the enemy on the front line, the task is to block the enemy who has already rushed as quickly as possible, to stop his “spread” and destroy with counter-guerrilla warfare (assuming that the militants / bandits are using partisan methods). And the army is needed only to support the fire, because the power of the army, of course, much higher. Those. the militias are mainly active, and an army is stationed on their shoulders, carrying out gangsters. Only with such an organization is the militants really afraid to enter or are destroyed very quickly.

- The explosion of the trolley does not cause much damage.

- The explosion of the trolley - it's stuff. Terrorist war is somewhat different. Trolleybus explosion is a one-time action. It does not matter as a threat. But if at the same time in 10 cities in 30-50 terrorist groups simply begin to destroy the population ... Here is a multi-storey building. The group goes, knocks the door, and shoots the population. Where the doors are not knocked out, there from a grenade launcher. In two hours this house will be cut out. The whole. Moved to the next house. Imagine 50 such groups in St. Petersburg, which stupidly go and destroy the population.

Vulnerability is very high. They ask why there was no militia in Mariupol? Citizens are not really able to organize themselves in a combat, combat-ready structure. They can organize themselves into a crowd that 100 organized militants will shoot, regardless of whether citizens have weapons. The militia differs from the crowd in that the commander assembles them, performs combat coordination, firing, determines in advance how they operate on the terrain in various specific situations. Conduct learning the basics.
The population alone is not able to organize. Under the control of the army (power structures) before the outbreak of hostilities may. That is the problem. When the fighting begins, it is too late to organize something. First, there is no time for training, co-ordination, for interaction with external control (command). Secondly, if militants have already appeared in the settlement, they will not allow to create a militia. They will not allow to gather, to train. Only two gathered - one was immediately shot by a sniper. They [action films] are very tough.

- What do non-ideologized militants want, not Wahhabis?

- Of money. 50 dollars per month. Some 100. Most dreamers - 150.

- I wanted to transfer the conversation to Russia. Do you exclude such a situation for Russia? Or are we guaranteed to take place?

- I am not an oracle. But the probability is high. I believe that everything goes to this. At least, what is happening in the world clearly shows that the war has already begun. In my opinion.

- With Russia?

- Yes, the world war has already begun. Events in Ukraine I estimate as a preparatory stage of the invasion. One of the options]. I don’t say that it’s right tomorrow ...

- Ie Is the scenario supposed to be the same?

- I think yes. He successfully [proved].

- Putin's support 80% ...

- Assad also support 80%.

- Preventive measures such as “tightening the screws” that we see in Russia ... laws on statements against the national war or on secession from Russia ... If the population does not support the militants ...
- They are completely ineffective. In Syria, the population does not support the militants. Militants do not ask the population what it supports or not. They come and rob him, kill him. Militants do not need any support from the population. They come to kill the population. Militants do not need to change power. They do not need to conquer the country. The essence of the terrorist war is to destroy the country as an economic unit. The goal of the war is chaos, not the seizure of the country. Terrorist war is the fastest and cheapest way to destroy a country. Wait until Russia itself collapses no one wants, now they want to get the result. Syria may also be sometime “itself collapsed”. But no one wants to wait a thousand years, nor a hundred, nor ten.

The concept of a terrorist war is applicable not only to small countries. Syria, for example, 25 million population. Ukraine - 45. Big enough countries. The essence of the terrorist war is not conquest, but destruction. Because a ruined country is an acceptable goal. Just the physical destruction of the economy. To make it a no man’s no-use chaotic territory.
The events in Ukraine terrified me not so much because of the victims, but because of the scenario that is being conducted, which confirms my worst fears - the preparation is underway and the probability [of unleashing a terrorist war against Russia] is very high. How will we respond? There is still time, but ... Recently, I also thought that we had a year of 3 or 4 ... Now I don’t know, it’s difficult to predict, in Ukraine it’s not over yet, I don’t know how events will develop there.
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  1. +20
    17 2014 June
    In Ukraine, cheap fighters for the war against Russia are now being "stamped"!
    1. Vlad Gore
      +16
      17 2014 June
      All right, the author of the article said. In addition to the findings. Our security forces are already acting as they should. That's why they stopped capturing militants in the UK. After each anti-terrorist operation in the UK, the media reported that all the terrorists were destroyed (no prisoners). Only total destruction can prevent the spread of this infection. good
      1. +5
        17 2014 June
        Quote: Vlad Gore
        All right, the author of the article said. In addition to the findings. Our security forces are already acting as they should. That's why they stopped capturing militants in the UK. After each anti-terrorist operation in the UK, the media reported that all the terrorists were destroyed (no prisoners). Only total destruction can prevent the spread of this infection. good

        I think that our FSB has almost the largest experience in the world in countering terrorist threats. Of course, there is no reason for relaxation, but I don’t see the point of falling into hysteria.

        Of course, no one is safe from the terrorist attack. Just need to work for those who must resist this.
        1. +4
          17 2014 June
          I will say more - the FSB, as the successor to the KGB, is well aware of the methods of both training militants and countering them. And, I hope, everything that the author has expressed exists not only in his head, but also in the heads of people familiar with all these techniques. Which, by the way, were developed in the USSR.
      2. avt
        +2
        17 2014 June
        Quote: Vlad Gore
        All right, the author of the article said.

        Quite sembe obvious things, known from the Old Testament times. Nothing new and unexpected, the author can be convinced of this by the example of the Jews, Sicarii ", who cut themselves with the Romans. Again, the example of Menachem Begin and his bombers, well, when they are Angles still under the mandate Palestine was terrorized.
        Quote: Vlad Gore
        . In addition to the findings.

        That's for sure, on the campaign, he forgot about the explosions of houses and subways. No one has such experience in counterterrorism and anti-sabotage. Even Israel has a different, purely territorial scale. Here's another general level of the population to pull up from the lax-relaxed to the Israeli. But then, right away, human rights activists "of all stripes -" 37 years!, Snitches! Damn shit! " But exactly to the point where they are not scorched, then another roar will begin - .. Where is this power ?! I pay taxes! Look how great everything is arranged in Israel and America! "The author was not impressed.
    2. 0
      17 2014 June
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      In Ukraine, cheap fighters for the war against Russia are now being "stamped"!

      Their first goal after SE is Crimea ...
      1. +1
        17 2014 June
        Quote: Tartar 174
        Quote: VNP1958PVN
        In Ukraine, cheap fighters for the war against Russia are now being "stamped"!

        Their first goal after SE is Crimea ...

        In the Crimea - without maza. Enough troops, and geography does not have.
    3. +1
      17 2014 June
      it seems that they have already "stamped" these "fighters"
    4. +2
      17 2014 June
      If it were possible, I would put a hundred pluses to the lieutenant colonel. You can immediately see the analyst with a capital letter !!!
  2. +17
    17 2014 June
    The consequences of a terrorist attack on our country can be neutralized only by a strong ideology, and this is what we were deprived of. There is no strong unifying principle in our society now. The principle - "live as you want and do what you want" - has only negative consequences for us. No matter how we go to meet the West, try to get closer to it, and it is this idea that Gorbachev, for example, expresses to us, such a rapprochement only ruins our society, because on the part of the West there is no desire to come closer to us and has never existed. Their retaliatory actions are aimed only at destabilizing our entire country and nothing more.
  3. +6
    17 2014 June
    Everything is right ... given our migration policy, where hundreds of thousands of militants from Central Asia have accumulated in the country, and from the Caucasus ... have been spread with a thin layer ... it turns out they have poured napalm, it remains only to set fire to it.
    And given the Russian open spaces, this will only complicate the defense.
  4. +3
    17 2014 June
    And what's new is incomprehensible. How the Syrian scenario differs from the Chechen one. Yes, just territory. And our aircraft have experience above the roof. These methods are as old as the world, the script does not change as the scriptwriter is the same ...
  5. talnax7
    -2
    17 2014 June
    Is it analytics or a statement of fact? The earth is round further what? What are the author’s countermeasures? To the author on a note on fertility in the east and in Europe where to get units? (And I remember that if somewhere decreases, then somewhere increase
    1. +2
      17 2014 June
      Well, there will always be volunteers .... from the Middle East, for example, or from Asia ... they cannot and do not want to work, but they need to feed ...
    2. +5
      17 2014 June
      Quote: talnax7
      What are the countermeasures by the author?


      So the author called countermeasures - the organization and training of militia units. It is advisable in advance, before it is too late.
      "Syria has clearly shown that the only option for protecting populated areas is to have a militia in them. Only a militia, backed by an army, is capable of protecting populated areas. What is meant by a militia? These are not men with machine guns walking the streets. How is it done in Syria? These are civilians, most of whom have served in the army (although this is not necessary), who know how to contact the commander in case of something. The commander is an army officer. Acting or in reserve. He periodically collects them (they know each other), coordinates them. At the same time they live an ordinary peaceful life. "
      1. koshh
        0
        17 2014 June
        Quote: mamont5
        However, they live an ordinary, peaceful life. "


        All is correct. To organize a militia, we first centralized the issuance of hunting tickets. I think this is the first step. Let not combat, but hunting and traumatic weapons in adequate citizens is on hand. And taken into account. And from these people it is already possible to form self-defense forces on the ground - militias. I think that with these steps the preparation has already begun.
        1. +2
          17 2014 June
          Why hunting and traumatic? A rifled carbine with optics can not be combat if necessary?

          And hunting tickets were issued back in the USSR ....
        2. 0
          17 2014 June
          Why hunting and traumatic? A rifled carbine with optics can not be combat if necessary?

          And hunting tickets were issued back in the USSR ....
      2. talnax7
        +1
        17 2014 June
        This is the army and the professionals and then the militia with berdanks. But the most important thing is that we ourselves create our own pain points for corruption, education problems in health care, etc. if we defeat them, knock the soil out of the enemy’s feet. But it’s difficult to make the militia so expensive
    3. +4
      17 2014 June
      Quote: talnax7
      Is it analytics or a statement of fact? The earth is round further what? What are the author’s countermeasures? To the author on a note on fertility in the east and in Europe where to get units? (And I remember that if somewhere decreases, then somewhere increase

      Hmm ... Sergey, before you answer, I read the list of your comments.
      Forgive me, but you need to ask this question - "Is this an analyst or a statement of fact?"
      Read your own comments and find some thought in them.
      No offense, this is just a "statement of fact."

      And the author reasonably reasoned.
      I read this note yesterday, and threw me her Ukrainian from SE...
      Commented on it with pleasure, at least some sensible material, and not the current garbage.
      By the way - the author gives an answer for BOTH PARTIES, if that ...


      I will copy my answer to him:

      The fact that war has become an expensive pleasure and the fact that some victories cannot recoup costs is EXACTLY.
      …………
      A little note:
      A cruise missile costs an average of one lyam in Baku, but ... they don’t shoot a cruise missile at an armored personnel carrier ... it has other goals comparable to the price of solving the problem (radars, command posts, headquarters). The lieutenant colonel cannot but know this.
      .........
      About the "terrorist" wars - that's right. This is one of the types of modern local warfare (namely, local).
      The purpose of a terrorist war is to exhaust and gradually bring the country into decline. All the same is true.
      It’s not entirely certain that terrorists are “fighting against” the population and that 1.000 is needed to localize 50.000.
      The terrorist method of warfare is to obtain an effective result with a MINIMUM COSTS of both human resources and weapons and equipment. And the way to accomplish this goal does not matter:
      - undermining a suicide bomber in an airplane of “infidel” civilians,
      - Makhnovsky raid on the village,
      - a partisan strike at an army checkpoint.
      It is both cheap and effective.
      Warriors of terror will never face an open front against another force. That's for sure.


      Yes. Only the militia associated with the Army can withstand terrorist hostilities.
      Militia tactics:
      1. 80% are engaged in ordinary business, 20% are located at various key points: monitoring, communication, management.
      2: In the event of a threat, the militia instantly takes a predetermined position and fetters the advancement of a terrorist group.
      3. Does not prevent the Army from carrying out further work to destroy this group.

      Well said about the terrorist war:
      “The purpose of the war is chaos, not the capture of the country. "Terror war is the fastest and cheapest way to destroy a country."
      Good article. In general, I liked it very much.
      ........................................................................

      ps Russia and Ukraine have already been drawn into this. And it did not begin with the events in the Crimea, but earlier.
      Crimea it was already a necessary step - the defense of the Black Sea Fleet.
      And now the Slavs urinate the Slavs.

      pss Do you know why no State likes to make a militia?
      Just for this you need to give out to the population (albeit loyal) WEAPONS ...
      1. talnax7
        0
        17 2014 June
        So I’m not an analyst and I don’t write articles. The author showed that the earth is round all. How is the preparation of militias and terrorists different? I asked about the birth rate
  6. +7
    17 2014 June
    Reading the article, I remembered about Chechnya, there, just such an experience was present. As soon as the local population united in various "cells", the result of the struggle against the bandits became immediately apparent.
    I consider it correct to support such an idea of ​​the article, for implementation, at least in the border areas.
  7. +11
    17 2014 June
    many here say not to respond to provocations, do not get excited and do not get involved in a war, so no one will ask us whether we want to fight or not, the war itself will come to our villages and cities. They will never leave Russia alone until they get in the face and then again they will calm down for 50-70 years.
  8. +14
    17 2014 June
    Everything is logical, and laid out on the shelves. Controlled chaos ...
    But, I think, the main method of struggle should be performed by special services ...
    Destruction of communications of fighters, deprivation of their funds, destruction
    leadership ... Militants without control and communication, a herd of sheep ...
  9. +4
    17 2014 June
    The gloomy picture of the terrorist war. But, quite possible. Therefore, one must be prepared for everything. Forewarned is forearmed.
  10. Boralex63
    +4
    17 2014 June
    Very competently! More such publications!
  11. +3
    17 2014 June
    If this happens in Russia and all sorts of Wahhabis trample here, then it is necessary to inflict a nuclear or less powerful non-nuclear strike on Arabia or Qatar. Next, hint at NATO and especially the US that they are next. And you can not hint. They will guess.
    1. +4
      17 2014 June
      yes, in that case, immediately across the USA, in any other way, they won’t leave us alone ..
    2. 0
      17 2014 June
      And you can not hint. They will guess.

      Or maybe just by the "owners" palnut. In a desert state ... Why spoil others?
  12. komrad.klim
    0
    17 2014 June
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    In Ukraine, cheap fighters for the war against Russia are now being "stamped"!

    Quote: komrad.klim
    Standard UKRO-MUTANT
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. +3
      17 2014 June
      And where is the character’s brains. Stupidly awkward hell takes.
    3. +1
      17 2014 June
      [quote = komrad.klim] Standard UKRO-MUTANT
      [/ quote] [/ quote]
      Some kind of homosexual.
  13. Counter
    +2
    17 2014 June
    "How is it done in Syria? These are civilians, most of whom served in the army (although this is not necessary), who know how to contact the commander in case of anything. The commander is an army officer. Acting or in reserve. He periodically collects them (they know each other), harmonizes them. At the same time, they live a normal peaceful life. They know the signal, the commander knows where to get the weapon. "

    It is by this mechanism that the Right Sector functions by the way. And now his "mobilization" part is peacefully drinking beer at home, waiting "in the wings" at the command from above. And where they will be carried next, God alone knows!
  14. -5
    17 2014 June
    article - crazy delirium; everything must be done on time; all militants in Syria are skillfully coordinated from Israel, and not, as in the article, they run chaotically from house to house and pointlessly shoot right and left; and in the same way, "Maidan" using the specialists in time, Yanukovych would have destroyed the infection in the very bud; once again everything must be done on time! and another example of the Chinese in Tiananmen Square in 89g, they did not hesitate to even crushed this matter with tanks and everything was done on time
  15. buser
    +1
    17 2014 June
    about the militia, of course, a good idea, but in real life it may not work. Someone’s urgent business will appear, problems, that, third, tenth ... It’s more realistic to have special forces units and delivery vehicles to the scene of action. Militants are not mushrooms after rain, unexpectedly for no reason do not appear. It is enough in each region to have such operational units with transport aviation so that they can be transferred to the place of military operations in a matter of hours, and then begin to transfer large military units. Well, something like this...
  16. +2
    17 2014 June
    All that remains is to create legal self-defense forces in each locality. Tomorrow, when it arrives
    Bandera go Wahhabi, and the population will hope for the quick help of law enforcement, maybe
    It’s already late. Unfortunately, such a scenario is real. In the near future, Ukraine will move to a new phase of degradation: the war for food, money, etc. Hundreds of thousands of armed Bandera may flood into Russia.
  17. Counter
    +3
    17 2014 June
    Quote: komrad.klim
    Standard UKRO-MUTANT

    Down !! "The plane was shot down from Russian weapons"! And" ukroarmiya is not fighting "Russian weapons"? Was the downed Il-76 produced by Boeing? T-62 produced in Ohio? Schizoid undergrowth!
  18. +3
    17 2014 June
    Vasily Pavlov is clearly under the strong impression of his stay in Syria. World War - it is, most likely, he got excited. New wars with a horde of militants - this is what we have already passed in Afghanistan, Chechnya ... But there was our second and third experience. The first was the civil war. And here I want to agree with the commentators who point to the absence of ideology. I will only add that the ideology of the ideology is different. Namely, a war by small groups of terrorists is not possible if there is a dictatorship in the country. For example, what was the "dictatorship of the proletariat". That is, the same militants, but endowed with power. This is like the militia that V. Pavlov is talking about. This is me - for a general beginning ...
    But listening to the interview, I could not get rid of the question - if all this is possible anywhere, then why is this not possible in the USA? That is, my question is rhetorical. If we all need to fear the invasion of well-trained paid thugs, then a similar war can be organized in the most democratic country in the universe. For some reason, this side of the issue was not discussed.
    Therefore, as always, the truth is somewhere in between. The army is not able to defeat them, which Afghanistan has successfully demonstrated! Everyone ate ... But smart politics and local militias can solve the problem. And this was demonstrated to us by Chechnya.
    It remains to decide what to do with Ukraine. There is no solution ...
  19. Andrew 58
    -1
    17 2014 June
    The smell of war is already in the air ...
    1. 0
      17 2014 June
      He (the smell of war) has been hovering for several thousand years .....
  20. +2
    17 2014 June
    Impressive. I agree with the reality of the threat, although everything seems calm around. Based on the past, I venture to suggest that terrorists can be supported by organized crime groups (primarily ethnic ones), private security companies and migrant migrant workers. It is clear that it is necessary to increase reasonable vigilance, and the security forces are responsible.
    1. +1
      17 2014 June
      Quote: Balu
      OPGs (primarily ethnic), private security forces and migrant-hibernators can become a support for terrorists.


      And also football fans. Recently I spoke with one such: my brain is completely absent; blindly do whatever the leader says; already now morally ready to kill anyone, regardless of gender and age, if a fan herd becomes active
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  21. +5
    17 2014 June
    V. Pavlov thoroughly laid out the whole situation on the organization of chaos in the country and regions. After reading the article, I recalled my business trips to Egypt, Angola and other regions. After all, upon returning, specialists submit detailed reports on what they saw and offers. So did we. Today, the country should revive the system so that all services: district, house administrations, district authorized FSB, etc. They knew the situation on the ground, they knew suspicious and unreliable people who could blow up a peaceful situation. The people and the population itself must fight for the right to work peacefully and help people who have suffered from Bandera and other bastards. Work with youth and schools is not organized at all, and what the media presents to us, especially television, is the decomposition and education of people not only in the spirit of patriotism, but in the spirit of profit. Amnesty Serdyukov, rewarding Gorbachev, a monument to Gaidar, what is it? I have the honor.
  22. 0
    17 2014 June
    Enjoy, gentlemen, comrades:
    http://artofwar.ru/a/anatolij_g/text_0910.shtml
  23. spring rain 19
    +7
    17 2014 June
    Russia 500 years ago found an antidote against this strategy. The outskirts of the state were guarded by lines of Cossack villages (armed people) that did not support the state, however, all breakthroughs of gang groups were successfully liquidated, behind them stood a few regular units.
    On the inner territory of Russia: Heretics, blasphemers, robbers, etc. bastards got a chopping block, a noose, an ice hole in a river or a bowl of molten lead. All this was done decisively and quickly.
    The complex of these measures in all cases froze the activities of hostile forces in Russia. Therefore, everything new is well forgotten old.
    1. 0
      17 2014 June
      The current government will not go to recreate the lines of the Cossack villages.
      For more than 20 years, the Cossacks have been reviving everything, but somehow the ensembles of songs and dances have not progressed.
    2. 0
      17 2014 June
      Everything is true with the Cossacks. Immediately the thought came of the role of the janitors. In Russian society, no, no, and the theme of returning the status of a police assistant to the janitor will resume. As it was before the revolution, when the janitor had a copper plaque with a number and a bone whistle with which he could call other wipers and city wipers for help. He knew everything about everyone in his yard. But the modern janitor is ... You understand. hi
  24. 3vs
    +2
    17 2014 June
    I completely agree with the author.
    It costs nothing to destabilize the border Rostov and Belgorod regions.
    The BMP-rack that came to our side testifies to this.
  25. +4
    17 2014 June
    The article is very strong. We should give it to every adult man to read. Because the episode with the house will get through to the liver.
    But in one small detail I disagree with the author. Militants do not fight civilians. They are fighting the civilian population using terrorist methods - exploding houses, northeast, etc. But destroying the population by breaking into houses is "not their method." Rather, they are "theirs", but this is not an end in itself. They can do this, but only for the sake of intimidation, in order to paralyze the will of the population to resist. After all, in order to intimidate people, you do not need to kill them, it is enough to kill a dozen in front of a hundred. Or show the corpses of those killed with special cruelty. Therefore, there is no point in "war with the population". But this is not only not useful for the militants, but even harmful. Because if they stupidly cut out the entire population, they will face two bad prospects. The first - when the security forces come up, they will not be tied in methods of destruction by the presence of civilians. And they will grind the militants into dust with heavy weapons. In general, the militants will lose their human shield. Second, the militants need to eat something. And what they eat, they have to either deliver or find on the spot. If the militants leave behind them a deserted desert, then the next time their security forces are again driven into this territory, they will simply die of hunger. Or they will be forced to organize supply convoys, which the military will gladly destroy by all available means, together, of course, with the protection of these convoys. Whereas if there is a population on the territory, there will be food and clothing and everything necessary for life, and all this can be taken either in stores (it is clear that for the "revolutionary thanks"), or taken away from civilians (milk, turkey , eggs). Moreover, this state itself will also be forced to supply the territory under the control of the militants in order to support the civilian population, which is not to blame for the fact that this pack fell on it. If the state does not want it, there will be merchants who will carry everything necessary for the same militants for money, and the security forces will not be able to prevent this, since they will say that they are selling to the population.
  26. +4
    17 2014 June
    I completely agree with the officer. Now we are allowed to purchase rifled small arms. Many have it. Of course, these are mostly men. All of them are scattered and will not bring any benefit at Hours, unless they protect their home. If these people were united into groups at the place of residence under the command of retired Army and FSB officers and the police, that would be a big deal. It would be possible to regularly go to firing, to conduct tactical exercises. Now you can shoot a carbine only in the hunting season. Shooting ranges are private and expensive. You can create shooting ranges outside the cities. Businessmen would help with money and construction equipment (many of them have rifled). At these training camps, it would be possible to train volunteers to use grenade launchers and other infantry weapons.
    CSKA could provide their training grounds. I am sure that many men would gladly take part in this work. And the country would have in the case of millions of combat-ready regional fighters. See the states. Even in the movies. Armed populations help police catch criminals.
    And in general - war is a man’s business and the people must be prepared for it now.
  27. +1
    17 2014 June
    The events in Ukraine horrified me not so much because of the victims, but because of the ongoing scenario,

    The author is afraid of the scenario of the arrival of instability on his street. Victims in distant Donbas horrified, but not really?
    How do we respond? There is still time, but ... Recently, I also thought that we had 3 or 4 years ... Now I don’t know

    Continue in prostration, but do not drag the rest into this state.
    The writer did not discover anything new, but to lament well with the grandmothers on the bench.
  28. +1
    17 2014 June
    Very well laid out good
    In principle, we can conclude that the Americans, with the help of ukrov, are now doing economic damage EXACTLY RUSSIA, destroying the infrastructure and industry of Donbass, destroying the economic ties of our defense industry, and taking control of the gas pipe. The future economy of Ukraine itself DOES NOT WORRY IN PRINCIPLE.
    I'm afraid Russia won't be able to resolve this issue by "diplomatic pressure".
  29. talnax7
    0
    17 2014 June
    People who create terror take advantage of our mistakes that we ourselves create in the east, religion in Yugoslavia, religion and ethnic contradictions in Ukraine. It’s easier to say where they have at least something to work. We will have a wide range of impacts of problems. And I have never met an article where they were even indirectly solutions to problems And the author showed a symptomatic treatment (there is an etiological and pathophysiological treatment
  30. Roshchin
    +2
    17 2014 June
    I want to ask the author, and the country or countries that are engaged in terrorist wars themselves are not at risk of such wars? They cannot be answered by similar actions, but with tactical surprises unexpected for them, in view of the different logic of developing plans? Are there few potential soldiers of terrarmies in the same USA? And in England, but in France or Germany? Let the people of the countries where the chaos and terror planners live feel in their own skin what their states are preparing for their close and distant neighbors.
  31. +1
    17 2014 June
    In my opinion, the article gives a lot of sound ideas, such a development is very likely. We are already preparing for this. Indirect confirmation is the beginning of work on a manual on the moral and psychological support of the actions of the territorial defense forces, which we are already working on in our BURS.
  32. +1
    17 2014 June
    The lieutenant colonel spoke the truth, locusts can be defeated only by locusts. How many soldiers of fortune can a terrorist international expose? The bill can go up to millions! Millionth army of terrorists dispersed throughout the country, how to beat it? Heavy weapons are of little use, the Syrian experience shows that the success of their use is minimal with huge destruction of the country's infrastructure. Only the arming of the population and its training in the basics of military affairs can create the conditions for the survival of the population in the event of a terrorist war in Russia. But how will the authorities react to this weapon? There must be trust and respect between the armed people and their power, is there any? By the way, even Lenin proposed creating a police force, in which all the capable population of the country alternately worked. People’s power is based on its own people, not on a hired police structure. With such a popular militia, it is possible to solve problems that the police department cannot solve in any way - cleaning up the territory of Russia from criminal groups, including ethnic ones.
    1. Roshchin
      +1
      17 2014 June
      You have identified an interesting question: "What is the current government in Russia more afraid of - an organized people living nearby, understanding their strength, or potential terrorists?" And hence the consequence - whether such a government will prepare for terrorist wars relying on the majority of the population or by spawning all kinds of special forces. Now almost every executive body has its own so-called. Special Forces.
  33. 0
    17 2014 June
    Quote: Grove
    You have identified an interesting question: "What is the current government in Russia more afraid of - an organized people living nearby, understanding their strength, or potential terrorists?" And hence the consequence - whether such a government will prepare for terrorist wars relying on the majority of the population or by spawning all kinds of special forces. Now almost every executive body has its own so-called. Special Forces.


    There recently flashed an initiative to create a popular militia. Perhaps the authorities are taking the first steps towards creating a full-fledged militia?
    http://www.stoletie.ru/obschestvo/milicija_vozvrashhajetsa_711.htm?CODE=milicija
    _vozvrashhajetsa_711
  34. 0
    17 2014 June
    Ideology is undoubtedly important. And I would also like to cleanse my own country of people working for enemies now and about to continue this in the future. And by the way, you have to answer blow to blow. Customers and organizers of tergroups should get their share of the buzz. Regardless of gender, age and material well-being

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