Kiev: Gazprom owes more to Naftogaz than Naftogaz to Gazprom

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Kiev: Gazprom owes more to Naftogaz than Naftogaz to GazpromAfter another failure of negotiations between Gazprom and Naftogaz in the presence of a third party (EU) and after non-payment of the 2 billion part of the debt by Kiev, Moscow filed a lawsuit in the Stockholm arbitration for recovery of Ukrainian debt for gas and transferred Ukraine to prepayment. The amount of debt is about $ 4,5 billion. In turn, "Naftogaz" sent a lawsuit to Stockholm, which expressed financial claims to Russia in the amount of $ 6 billion. It is reported "Prime".

At the same time, Naftogaz is trying to explain where this astronomical sum in 6 billions of dollars of “Russian debt” came from. According to ukroeconomists, “Naftogaz” for the last 4 of the year exactly “overpaid” to “Gazprom” for blue fuel. Yuriy Prodan, who, together with the then Prime Minister of Ukraine, Tymoshenko himself participated in the signing of the contract, which is still in force today, is now "rolling in Vanka", claiming that the price to Ukraine was not suitable initially. And with what purpose then put their signatures in the contract, which to this day has not been canceled?

The head of the Duma Committee on International Affairs, Alexei Pushkov, in his microblog recorded the following character:

The introduction of prepayment for Kiev is the only possible step. She had to enter a month ago. Let Yatsenyuk receive shale gas from the United States.

The head of Gazprom, Alexey Miller, announced blackmail, which the Ukrainian side frankly went to during the negotiations. According to Miller, representatives of the Ukrainian delegation said that if Moscow does not agree to provide ultra-low gas prices, Kiev will take it from the transit pipe in the quantities necessary for itself.

Alexey Pushkov on Twitter:

Kiev assured the EU that it would fulfill its obligations on the transit of gas to Europe. Perfectly. And if they steal gas, then this is a problem of the EU, not ours.


Objectively, the EU remains our partner in the matter of gas supply. The position of Yatsenyuk broadcasts the US line to the escalation of the conflict - not Europe.
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  1. +29
    16 June 2014 14: 59
    While they will believe that they all should not talk to dill about anything. It's like a schoolboy behaves arrogantly scaring his elder brother. They don’t understand any help, only cash and at the highest possible price.
    1. +7
      16 June 2014 15: 01
      Another dying, instructed by the Master nagging
      1. +7
        16 June 2014 15: 07
        Who would doubt that.
        Banderofashists initially stated that they would not pay anything. And they need Gazprom to them - the bandera-fascist regime of murderers, executioners and punishers, to download their underground gas storage facilities for free, which Miller did.

        Why it was impossible to do business - there is no full payment by the end of the month (yes, at least, at the end of the quarter) - go, bandera, to the dung - a mystery. As a clue, do not propose cunning political maneuvers. Only business, nothing else.
        1. Andrey82
          +5
          16 June 2014 15: 31
          Why why why...
          At the expense of Russia and against Russia.
        2. 0
          16 June 2014 20: 30
          “And they need Gazprom to pump them free of charge into their UGS facilities, which Miller did.” Therefore, the money for the gas pumped by Ukraine for free must be ripped off from Mr. Miller and the Board of Directors of Gazprom. Not from Gazprom, but from these “effective managers” personally.
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      2. +3
        16 June 2014 15: 11
        Quote: Coffee_time
        Another dying, instructed by the Master nagging

        clowns. yaytsynyukh already said that until December they will have enough gas. by then he will see that he will completely sell the country
      3. +13
        16 June 2014 15: 20
        I agree. Now they whine still a bit on the porch.
        1. +24
          16 June 2014 15: 41
          something like that...
          1. Salamander
            +15
            16 June 2014 15: 49
            Yes, you sho! There is gas in Ukraine and its production is very simple. Wed..tan gas is the key to success! Here is the project:
            1. +1
              16 June 2014 17: 22
              You sho !? Why burn strategic stock? ETOGES will leave for posterity ...
          2. +10
            16 June 2014 16: 23
            Or like that ...
            1. 0
              16 June 2014 17: 23
              We don’t cover it, but spin it ... They don’t understand Russian ...
      4. +3
        16 June 2014 15: 37
        It was hard to expect anything else! Who can be to blame for all their troubles. Now they also owe Svidoyim for gas. The next accusation will be, it seems, in the fall - it got cold and hungry!
        1. +1
          16 June 2014 16: 55
          And yet the invasion of the vulture - Maidan ...
        2. 0
          16 June 2014 17: 25
          It will be exactly the same ... They will write the whole world a letter to Santa Claus with claims.
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      6. Stalker
        +1
        16 June 2014 17: 57
        Another dying, instructed by the Master nagging


        In this case (unfortunately - sorry for the common people) Here is a gift shining for the new year to the fascists, which even the right-wing people will tear because in the EU maydanutye who can no longer do anything "f furnace" ... request
      7. stapler
        0
        16 June 2014 22: 14
        nagging is not nagging, but only. that he was listening to a miller who was whining, we pumped gas to Ukraine for six months, but they didn’t agree ... I don’t understand what is the principle of such statements, when a person goes somewhere he tries to somehow brush this, not to publicize, but then ... pulled, pulled, you were bred for three months like suckers, and to say this with a sad mine on TV ... I am disgusted to listen to this ..
        It’s disgusting to understand that we are ruled by suckers ...
    2. +24
      16 June 2014 15: 11
      16.06.2014, 14:17. Synopsis from Igor Ivanovich Strelkov

      “Yesterday evening shelling caused numerous fires in Cherevkovka, but fortunately there were no casualties - the population had already learned to hide well, and almost half of them left.

      One of our "distant" RDGs reported a successful ambush - a convoy was attacked near Izium. An armored personnel carrier and 4 vehicles were hit. Details will be when the group returns to the mainland.
      Yesterday, our fighters launched a rocket over Kramatorsk by plane. The result is unclear. Most likely - still miss.

      Squad (or rather - now already a battalion as part of our formed 1st militia brigade) Alexei Mozgovoy attacked the enemy stronghold north of Lysychansk yesterday. Thanks to a thorough reconnaissance, the attack was crowned with the defeat of the enemy. 3 armored personnel carriers and over 30 "national guardsmen" were destroyed. A few dozen more were injured.
      Now the "sighs" of heavy artillery are heard away from the city. We find out - what caused this: our attack planned yesterday in one of the directions, or their own actions. "
      1. jjj
        +7
        16 June 2014 15: 21
        Quote: Sith Lord
        One of our "distant" RDGs reported a successful ambush - a convoy was attacked near Izium

        Well, now long-distance raids have gone. Well done. It is such operations that will bring success and reduce the pressure of the Nazis in the contact zone
        1. Matroskin 18
          +3
          16 June 2014 15: 34
          Well, now long-distance raids have gone. Well done. It is such operations that will bring success and reduce the pressure of the Nazis in the contact zone

          They also thoroughly demoralize the enemy! Similar operations should be carried out with pravosekami, tk. it is they who fulfill the role of detachments and do not allow the Ukrainian army to bring home at full speed!
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        3. +1
          16 June 2014 16: 15
          It is necessary to "shut up" the artillery as soon as possible - without it the Banderas will feel their losses on foreign territory even more painfully.
      2. sPS
        0
        16 June 2014 16: 14
        we are three people want to go to Slavyansk help find the ends write to the mail [email protected]
    3. +4
      16 June 2014 15: 17
      at the same time sell gas to Europe on the border with Russia. Let the dill steal from them already. For transit, pay in fact already at the border of Ukraine and Europe. It will not be profitable to steal
      1. 0
        16 June 2014 17: 49
        Quote: ty60
        while transit is paid upon the fact already at the border of Ukraine and Europe.

        why pay, because you can provide a reduction in gas prices in the amount of the price of transit. let the gay ropeians hohlam pay.
    4. +6
      16 June 2014 15: 27
      Well, finally Ukraine got off the gas needle !!! Complete independence !!!
      .... Until the next "Breakage .."
      1. +2
        16 June 2014 15: 37
        Frankly hinting that they will steal. They want to separate everyone, both us and the Eureks. It can be seen that they really believe in the omnipotence of their master.
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        2. 0
          16 June 2014 17: 03

          comprochikos (1) SU  Today, 15:37 PM ↑ New


          Frankly hinting that they will steal. They want to separate everyone, both us and the Eureks.

          Yeah, now they’ll divorce the Eureks. The EU is puffing with sanctions while their interests are in place. Now let's see how Europeans react to the theft of their fuel. I think here and the almighty ukrohozyashin will not help, because Europe is used to counting its money.
    5. +2
      16 June 2014 15: 30
      Hmm ... Now let them DOWNLOAD !!! Now let Europe have a headache about deliveries ... What they fought for and ran into ... !!!
    6. bif
      +3
      16 June 2014 15: 32
      Quote: roman72-452
      cash only

      Apparently, in dill they forgot their debts for not complying with the "take or pay" clause ... there are more than 2012 billion in fines for 2013 and 15 alone ... It's time to remind)
    7. 0
      16 June 2014 15: 54
      Dmitry Medvedev called the behavior of Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy Deshchytsy inappropriate.
      “And these are some absurd, unreasonable actions, although after the inadequate behavior of the foreign minister in Ukraine, nothing surprises me,” Medvedev said at a meeting with Gazprom head Alexei Miller and energy minister Alexander Novak.

      In turn, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that he had nothing to talk about with “Deshchitsa's character”.
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      2. +1
        16 June 2014 17: 10
        In turn, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that he had nothing to talk about with “Deshchitsa's character”.

        Lavrov is an aristocrat in diplomacy. What should he talk about with a gopnik, seizing power.
    8. +2
      16 June 2014 16: 00
      ... I am reminded of the popular wisdom that "stop the thief !!" the thief himself shouts first and loudest.
      And if the dill were really sure that they were right, they would have filed a lawsuit a long time ago. And so they were taking time to pump more gas into their storages, now they will additionally raise prices on the domestic market, cutting off Gazprom, and the maidanuts will continue to ride swelling with pride - look what we are now free, we have already filed a lawsuit against Gazprom ... tfu! ... full bloomers of "freedom and independence" have piled and continue to bring down ...

      If the Europeans have something left in their head, then they first hang on to the Bulgarian prime minister, and then they come running with a demand to resume and accelerate the construction of the South Stream, because they must remember how the Ukrainians stole gas from them.

      By the way, Miller expressed the opinion that the level had an idea to buy gas cheaply from us and resell it to Europe.
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      2. 0
        16 June 2014 17: 12
        By the way, Miller expressed the opinion that the level had an idea to buy gas cheaply from us and resell it to Europe.

        Well, on a tricky ass you yourself know what is with a thread.
      3. +2
        16 June 2014 17: 15
        Do you think our prime minister can decide for himself what to do?
        Another 6 states are suspended from South Stream, but for some unknown reason, the European Union decided that only Bulgaria was to blame and that only we were preparing sanctions. You can draw your own conclusions.
    9. +2
      16 June 2014 16: 02
      Well, it's generally pi .... ec!
    10. 0
      16 June 2014 16: 09
      There is only one question left-And the ass of Yatsenyuk and the Chocolate Ferret will not crack? I'm worried, like winked
    11. +1
      16 June 2014 16: 17
      The main goal of the United States is to unleash a war in Europe. Their debt is sky-high. We cannot escape the Third World War. Putin is silent because there is no talk, therefore does not respond to their attacks. I think the men get together and think about how we can beat the reptile together .For PEACE THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE. And don’t be weary, you are people with whom I’ll fight tomorrow. Sorry, that’s not so ....
    12. irina.mmm
      0
      16 June 2014 16: 29
      And how else to explain the shutdown of gas and the spent loans for their needs, which, incidentally, were given to Gazprom for payment?
      1. +1
        17 June 2014 01: 26
        If such a booze has gone, then why is Miller silent about the $ 100 discount for the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, which was supposed to operate since 2017, and Gazprom has already paid it "in advance"? There is an amount of 11 billion! Sold (what a surname!) Knows about it, but why is Gazprom silent !?
        The team of ukrvlasti completely lost the coast, where will they take energy? The same nuclear fuel for 15 blocks of nuclear power plants? Amer’s is not suitable — they and the Czechs are aware of this — two attempts were made at the Czech and Ukrainian nuclear power plants. In the second case, just before the second Chernobyl they did not play out. Oil is also from Russia, tomorrow it is necessary to harvest the crop. Gas shut off. Energy is the engine of the economy. And they committed suicide for themselves. All this indicates that they (the Kiev authorities) are being ruled. Otherwise, they are simply suicides. hi
  2. +8
    16 June 2014 14: 59
    but who would doubt .... I do not understand what kind of colored pills they eat there in Dill ???
    1. +3
      16 June 2014 15: 02
      Full maydown in the minds of all Ukrainians. what they were going to, they came there ...
    2. +2
      16 June 2014 15: 03
      Yes, everything is simple, the tablets have two colors. The color of the dollar and the American flag.
    3. +1
      16 June 2014 15: 03
      sausages them not childishly lol
    4. 0
      16 June 2014 15: 06
      Freestuff gas was sniffed.
    5. +1
      16 June 2014 15: 08
      like these ones

      the picture was specially politically correct torn from a Ukrainian source
      1. +4
        16 June 2014 15: 22
        Quote: north
        like these ones

        the picture was specially politically correct torn from a Ukrainian source

        No, these are
        1. +1
          16 June 2014 15: 28
          The cookies are probably also with drugs.
      2. bif
        0
        16 June 2014 15: 25
        Quote: north
        the picture was specially politically correct torn from a Ukrainian source

        Looks like they brought directly from the Maidan
        1. 0
          16 June 2014 17: 19
          Quote: bif
          Looks like they brought directly from the Maidan

          Yes, Lavrov, then at a meeting with Nuland, forged her tightly, hinted that the cookies were with drugs.
      3. +1
        16 June 2014 16: 10
        I visited the censor, this is where bandits in Ingushetia are called fighters and the law enforcement bodies of the Russian Federation are bandits and invaders, and people in eastern Ukraine are terrorists, they banned me on the third comment. For me, it’s simply incomprehensible how, in principle, such a perception of reality is possible, is that some kind of new kind of stupefying a huge mass of people ?? how to characterize the ongoing processes in Ukraine ?? This is some kind of clinic, I can’t find the words at all ....
        1. +1
          16 June 2014 16: 53
          Do not mind it. They live in their own "reality".
          1. +1
            16 June 2014 17: 18
            They live in their own "reality".

            I'm waiting for a new series of "matrices", the possible name is "maidanatsiya"
            1. +1
              16 June 2014 19: 47
              Quote: spech
              They live in their own "reality".

              I'm waiting for a new series of "matrices", the possible name is "maidanatsiya"

              MAIDANatrix, rather ....
              Neo in trousers, Morpheus with a sedentary and Trinity with a bagel on his head.
              They will study the military hopak.
              And work against Agent Smith, who has a hammer and sickle
    6. 0
      16 June 2014 16: 12
      Maybe something is smoked? I’d buy it, see how it pins)))
  3. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 00
    Super impudence !!!
    1. +1
      16 June 2014 15: 12
      Quote: tolyasik0577
      Super impudence !!!


      Super dishonesty ....
      1. Arkhara
        0
        16 June 2014 15: 58
        Quote: SS68SS
        Super dishonesty ....

        Super indecent ... feel
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    3. +1
      16 June 2014 15: 52
      Quote: tolyasik0577
      Super impudence !!!

      Quote: SS68SS
      Super dishonesty ....


      Guys! nothing like this! only obedience and strict adherence to ovsky instructions. you can’t blame the CNC machine for suddenly drilling wrong!
      now wait for theft, a counterclaim in which the price will be challenged, they will bring a claim for the cost of "Crimea" ...
      Who expects that the "fairest court" will point Ukraine to schizoidness?
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      2. 0
        16 June 2014 16: 54
        Quote: Chen
        Who expects that the "fairest court" will point Ukraine to schizoidness?
        And I think, where will they get the money for legal services? I talked a little with London. Yeah .. In this case, yes, 300 pounds per hour (prices of the last century) - the loers will get rich. Whose jurisdiction is there in the contract?
  4. +4
    16 June 2014 15: 01
    Let Yatsenyuk receive any gas (shale, marsh, ammonia, intestinal, etc. ..), but not from Russia.
    1. +13
      16 June 2014 15: 04
      Quote: fzr1000
      Let Yatsenyuk receive any gas (shale, marsh, ammonia, intestinal, etc. ..), but not from Russia.
    2. +12
      16 June 2014 15: 43
      Quote: fzr1000
      Let Yatsenyuk receive any gas (shale, marsh, ammonia, intestinal, etc. ..), but not from Russia.
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  6. PRN
    +1
    16 June 2014 15: 02
    Audacity second happiness! And for dill - the first!
    1. 0
      16 June 2014 15: 05
      No, not the first. Already the last resort. Like an ax from a headache.
  7. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 03
    Well, since Yatsenyuk, who participated in the signing of the TOGO gas contract, is still the acting prime minister, and it was the current junta who released the young lady with the scythe from prison, then what kind of dissatisfaction with the terms of the contract can I talk about?
    Schizophrenia? Paranoid schizophrenia?
    1. bif
      +1
      16 June 2014 15: 27
      Quote: DanSabaka
      Well, since Yatsenyuk, who participated in the signing of the TOGO gas contract,

      NOT Yaytsenyukh, but a minister with a "speaking surname" Sold ...) 0
      1. 0
        16 June 2014 17: 58
        Quote: DanSabaka
        Well, since Yatsenyuk, who participated in the signing of the TOGO gas contract, is still the acting prime minister, and it was the current junta who released the young lady with the scythe from prison, then what kind of dissatisfaction with the terms of the contract can I talk about?

        the contract was signed by other options for these individuals. the present would never have signed such an enslaving agreement for the rye Krainy. therefore, require the recognition of the contract invalid and a refund. and their gas ran out, but they promise to return it as soon as they save up. wink Yes
        1. 0
          17 June 2014 12: 11
          let those who signed pay ....
  8. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 03
    Yeah, self-hypnosis is a great thing! You look not only Vader, but also Napoleons with Bonoparts will appear wassat
  9. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 03
    "this is what the life-giving cross (urging America behind Svidomo) does"
    while Svidomo confident in the 100% support by the States of any of their actions - there is nothing to talk about. Like with Mishiko in 2008
  10. +3
    16 June 2014 15: 04
    Funny, Zadornov nervously smokes on the sidelines)))))))))) I like to neigh)))))) dill burn)))))
  11. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 04
    Previously, it was necessary to shut off the gas, and not wait until they fill the storage facilities.
    1. +2
      16 June 2014 15: 09
      Yes, it's not scary, they will have enough gas for a month, or even less. "Naftagaz" was divided into 5 parts, everyone wants a piece of the pie. They will now begin to divide and sell the pumped-in gas quickly in order to fill their pockets. But now there is nothing.
    2. 0
      16 June 2014 15: 10
      And they do not need to fill out, from the European stream themselves, how much UKRadut need.
      1. 0
        16 June 2014 15: 43
        The EU knows how to count money, they will steal from them. Let them pay for their own stupidity. They say that they learn mistakes, maybe the EU will learn.
  12. Vtel
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 04
    Such slimy pyrigorov with fennel, tilko lower us before the eyes of this proletarian people around the world. Conscience is not for sale. Glory true To the heroes of the Strelkovites!
    And in the subject:
    Rosneft President Igor Sechin and the heads of other large companies with state participation Gazprom, Rosneftegaz, Russian Railways, Aeroflot, RusHydro and Inter RAO did not publish data on the property and income of the management, the Vedomosti newspaper writes. ...

    Advertising "Gas is our property" - guess from two notes - who?
    1. +2
      16 June 2014 15: 41
      Yes, we know from one note whose. At one time I received a beautiful piece of paper, which declared me the owner of as many as 4 shares of "Neftalmazinvest", remember, probably, how vouchers were shaken out of us. Bottom line: someone has oil and diamonds, and I have a beautiful piece of paper as a memory of those times when: "we wanted the best, but it turned out as always."
  13. P-38
    +1
    16 June 2014 15: 05
    But the European Union should be satisfied: these are the real economic fruits of the coup in Kiev which they themselves supported. Yatsenyuk will steal gas from them, from Europe, Europe will make a complaint to us and not pay for under-delivered gas, we will gradually tighten the valve, and so on, until gas runs out in Europe.
    1. 0
      16 June 2014 15: 22
      Quote: P-38
      Europe will make a claim

      Therefore, this issue must be resolved with Europe now and specifically!
    2. 0
      16 June 2014 15: 37
      Yes, it was already like that. And I’ll even say what will happen. By the fall, when dill begins to spit gas, Europe will get a contract that states that we provide transit. And that’s all, and there’s already at least a court, at least negotiations, will be tying and that's it. Swam - we know. So while we don’t trick them with their bald little head, the situation cannot be rectified!
    3. 0
      16 June 2014 16: 35
      "The European Union will sign the economic part of the association agreement with Ukraine on June 27, simultaneously with the signing of similar documents with Moldova and Georgia," the EU Council reported.
      @ Technical preparations for signing an agreement with Ukraine are expected to be completed in the near future, the Council said on Monday.
      Poroshenko immediately after his election as president of Ukraine stated that he should not hesitate with the economic part of the association agreement. He suggested signing a document immediately after his inauguration.
      Ukraine signed the political part of the Agreement with the EU on March 21. "
      Interfax1 hour ago, 14:40

      "Russia will impose restrictions on the pumping of gas through Ukraine in those directions where the volume of gas will decrease," said the head of Gazprom, Alexei Miller.
      “This is Russian gas. They intend to use Russian gas for free as reverse supplies, ”Miller explained. But he noted that so far, according to the testimony of gas measuring stations (GIS), there are no reverse deliveries in one direction, but decreased in another.
      The crisis will come at the end of the heating season, when the daily rates for gas withdrawal from storage facilities will decrease (due to the peculiarities of the technology of storage and gas withdrawal from storage facilities - ed.). "
      News Economy30 minutes ago, 15:55

      They will overshadow so that even future generations will disentangle. In the meantime, they jump.
  14. +2
    16 June 2014 15: 05
    They will be clearly tyr ....
    1. +1
      16 June 2014 15: 12
      Quote: MIKHAN
      They will be clearly tyr ....


      In this case, we’ll start specially for them to body with mustard gas or sarin. Gases, they, you know, are different.
      So far, judging by the Ukrainian comments, the owner gave them two cylinders with laughing gas for testing.
    2. 0
      16 June 2014 15: 43
      Quote: MIKHAN
      They will be clearly tyr ...

      Theft is a secret theft of another's property ... robbery is an open theft of another's property without a threat to life ... MUST change ... radishes
    3. +8
      16 June 2014 15: 46
      Quote: MIKHAN
      They will be clearly tyr ..

      In company with Europe!
  15. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 07
    Who to whom ??? They did not have time to appear, already Russia should have!
  16. portoc65
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 08
    It is NECESSARY to present ukra for nationalization after the collapse of the USSR .. Used to live on the ball .. angry
  17. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 08
    It was high time to introduce prepayment. How much can be tolerated. These banderlogs perceive concessions as weakness. To put on the ears in every sense.
  18. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 08
    The head of the Duma Committee on International Affairs, Alexei Pushkov, in his microblog recorded the following character:

    The introduction of prepayment for Kiev is the only possible step. She had to enter a month ago. Let Yatsenyuk receive shale gas from the United States.

    Why so long dragged. Thought to reason? Ha! Not those attacked. The leadership of Ukraine is too thick-handed, either to prove and explain is useless.
    According to Miller, representatives of the Ukrainian delegation said that if Moscow does not agree to provide an ultra-low price for gas, then Kiev will take it from the transit pipe in the quantities necessary for itself.

    Who would doubt that.
  19. Fuse
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 10
    Well, we know very well where all the sales directions come from. Psaki hike personally texts for dill bureaucrats concocts laughing
  20. Alexandr 2
    +2
    16 June 2014 15: 10
    Insolence transcends all boundaries.
    1. MBA78
      +1
      16 June 2014 15: 19
      partners understand ... neither business nor trust one thing
      1. Alexandr 2
        0
        16 June 2014 15: 29
        "To wish much, to see nothing."
  21. AVV
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 10
    Yes, he doesn’t roll Vanka, but a fool, whom he himself is !!! He’s beaten by himself and will go into the world of color outrage !!! It’s disgusting to see all this, it becomes disgusting that the Ukrainian people deserve such leaders of the country, well, who did you choose with them and go to the blue future, and turn the arrows to a bad Russia no, this is your conscious choice, now it’s useless to spit saliva !!!
  22. +2
    16 June 2014 15: 11
    from Ukraine in these gas talks one name.
    black protruding ears are visible to the naked eye.
  23. +2
    16 June 2014 15: 11
    At the same time, Naftogaz is trying to explain where this astronomical amount of $ 6 billion in “Russian debt” came from.

    Well, exactly, "They fell from the oak!" One word - maydanuty! And this seems to be a clinical diagnosis! "Durilka" is waiting for you, dill!
  24. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 11
    It is necessary to roll a lawsuit to Kiev for the use of Russian lands.
  25. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 12
    Stop eating the Nuland liver !!!
  26. +2
    16 June 2014 15: 12
    Gazprom owes Naftogaz more than Naftogaz owes Gazprom

    Aha, we still owe both for the "Holodomor" and for the "occupation" and for the fact that in 23 years of "Independence" they profited from the most powerful industry of all the other republics of the USSR, destroyed the agricultural and the army!
  27. StepanovTDSM
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 13
    Soon Europ will pay for Ukraine. Only white flies have to wait.
  28. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 13
    All this is a farce, initially no one was going to pay ... Europe won't pat the head for gas, breakdowns will begin and friendship will end ... And dill live according to the principle "from the beginning we smoke yours, and then each one of our own ..." - they also filed a lawsuit against themselves. "To the madness of the brave we sing a song ..." wassat
  29. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 16
    Sweaty Sold, he rushes and breaks through then when he speaks to the cameras I can imagine how he is negotiating. Actually, in Ukraine, it seems the Kunstkamera has seized power, they can’t not only speak (and in a ridiculous language), they’re not ready to look at them Hollywood actors for horror movies.
  30. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 17
    Nothing new. They will steal anyway. The only question is how Europe will react to this ... It may so happen that now the heads of Europe (everyone understands whoever bore their tricks) will try to convince their people (primarily their businesses) that cooperation with the states is much more profitable and safe in terms of supply ...
  31. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 17
    What do you want from the puppets? They were told that they are dancing, or jumping, the hell knows how to. But all this leading riffraff should be preserved, of course, for the tribunal.
  32. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 18
    http://censor.net.ua/news/290139/segodnya_kievenergo_otklyuchit_osveschenie_v_ts

    entre_kieva / sortby / tree / order / desc / page / 1 # comment_44178020

    Now the revolution has become even more intimate laughing
  33. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 19
    They sniffed the gas thoroughly, rushing not childishly!
  34. zol1
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 21
    A crest would not be a crest if someone wasn’t ...
  35. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 22
    I'm going to drink to Ms. Merkel’s health. She will need it in the near future. When the pigs start piz ... (take) gas, this will affect Germany the most painfully. (40% of Russian gas). She will either strangle the piglets (her hands must be strong) or pay for Ukraine at the expense of the burghers, but they don’t like it. Good health....
  36. Russian1974
    +1
    16 June 2014 15: 22
    They scored the entire lid of the coffin; now it remains to bury the current !!!!!
  37. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 22
    As I understand it, "the Kiev authorities" went through antagonists, Russia warned that if the debt was not repaid, they would transfer it to an advance payment, and if there was no payment, they would stop supplying gas to Ukraine. So the "Kiev authorities" decided to respond by refusing to supply Russian gas, and they also invented a debt that "Russia" should pay to "Ukraine" - it's even funny.
  38. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 22
    ... I do not understand what kind of colored pills they eat there in Dill ???
    - maybe something fixing?
    1. 0
      16 June 2014 15: 35
      Quote: klavyr
      I don’t understand what color tablets they eat there in Dill ???
      - maybe something fixing?

      This is an evil drug, not for nothing that dill went crazy all.
  39. +2
    16 June 2014 15: 23
    Nooooo! Miller is wrong! With his "intransigence" he framed the last EU institution - the judiciary - by "dropping" below the plinth. UN, PACE, OSCE - already there, now the LAW OF BUSINESS "TAKE - PAY" becomes different - "I WILL TAKE what I can - PAY if I want".
    Fun good
  40. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 24
    Storytellers. Again at night they smoked something
  41. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 24
    caricature
  42. Bombardier
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 24
    And in the meantime:
    DONETSK, June 16 - RIA Novosti. Armed militias of the DPR (the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic) occupied two more offices in the center of Donetsk - the National Bank and the Ministry of Revenue of Ukraine, RIA Novosti was told in the press service of the City Council on Monday.
    "Around 12:00, armed people drove up to the administration building located at Prospekt Mira, 8-a and entered the building. At the moment, traffic in this area is blocked by the traffic police," a representative of the city council said.


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20140616/1012212409.html#ixzz34niTV9C4
  43. +2
    16 June 2014 15: 24
    What else has to happen to make them realize that 23 years ago, to put it mildly, were mistaken?
  44. Bombardier
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 26
    Yes, and here it is:
    MOSCOW, June 16 - RIA Novosti. Representatives of the Dnepropetrovsk regional state administration handed over to the assistant to the naval attaché of the Russian Federation Eduard Belashev the journalists of the Zvezda TV channel, who were detained earlier in Ukraine, according to a statement on the channel's website.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140616/1012215849.html#ixzz34nilXG9B
  45. Matroskin 18
    0
    16 June 2014 15: 26
    Kiev: Gazprom owes more to Naftogaz than Naftogaz to Gazprom

    And there is! Why can't the whole world understand the obvious ?!
    Oh, it’s not in vain that you were so smart, they put me in that chair!
  46. Dbnfkmtdbx
    +2
    16 June 2014 15: 27
    And the war will begin with Ukrainians at what price will the Nazis sell gas ?, they kill the Russians, and we donate a gas for them? they are killed there, they start in the basements, the children cry in a choke, and we don’t sell conscience to the fascists hey politics people all very simply understand wake up what are you doing angry fool
  47. 0
    16 June 2014 15: 31
    Free gas also dough in pursuit of the PCC. Take dill for maintenance, and they will turn the figs on us .... They don’t need to give money to the ATO?
    GAZ to the enemy state for an advance payment and at the maximum price. It was necessary in February to plant them on an advance payment, maybe they would freeze and cool.
  48. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 34
    Correctly written - roll the Vanka - do not want to pay, sukry. Everything is very clear, unable to pay, do not buy gas, drown for example with your own dried gov.om. And they received and did not pay i.e. if .. get a pussy. Let the pid .... you will now pay for gas in the territories of Yu.V. illegally obtained. For example, how much should 6 billion? Please send Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk region in return. And how do you like, S.KI!
  49. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 35
    The junta needs real control in Ukraine ... and in what way it will be achieved by it does not matter.
    They spent months getting a gas baton against their people. Yes, actually, yes, not the people ... but against yesterday’s friends on the Maidan ... oligarchs.
    There is no money ... well, well ... do not rejoice, not to the budget ... but they junta to the accounts ... there are no energy sources for enterprises ... you understand the consequences.
    No ... here everything is clear Russia is to blame for everything.
    When certain regions without energy will be driven into the primeval age ... then the blackmail of the population will begin ... runoff then a person to the slaughter ... runoff of money ... and not in candy wrappers ... but in euros or dollars, in cash ... then you can see Ilyich’s bulb burning.
    There is no energy, that means there are no most basic communal amenities ... water and sewage, you can’t save much food without a refrigerator, you can’t cook much without fire.
    Well, there NATO will catch up ... to defend the pipe.
    If earlier the moneybags gathered to throw off Yanukovych, now everyone is for himself ... everyone has an army.
    All current begins.
  50. +2
    16 June 2014 15: 39
    Do not spit in the well from which you drink water.
    1. Marisat
      +2
      16 June 2014 16: 18
      But they do not consider us to be a well, only exclusively humus. This is me literary.
      At our work, the last fan of democracy and Khodarkovsky gave up. She, too, got the zapadents who live in Russia. And they have the audacity to bite a nursing hand.
  51. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 45
    It’s interesting that now the EU friends of an independent Ukraine will attack Russia again because the Ukrainians will steal their gas? And plotting intrigues for South Stream? Isn’t it all Putin’s fault for them? It would be nice to have a Russian winter and go to Europe!
  52. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 45
    This is pure speculation - take gas from Russia cheaper (for free) and sell it to other countries, costs are minimal, and profits are maximum, and it looks like kids from overseas are participating in this “business”, so they don’t see obvious things!
  53. +2
    16 June 2014 15: 47
    Have you noticed that recently, against the backdrop of Russia’s cold-blooded and calm policy with clearly friendly elements towards official Ukraine, the latter’s statements are sounding more and more absurd. Ukrainian “officials” have exhausted all the templates prepared in response to Russia’s peaceful actions, and the time for screaming about aggressive actions on the part of Russia has not yet begun. Here official Kyiv spouts bullshit like a cornucopia, and the West agrees.
  54. +1
    16 June 2014 15: 49
    Now they will steal gas from the tansite pipe, and Gazprom will not be able to do anything. This is technically impossible.
    1. +1
      16 June 2014 16: 26
      Pay the EU))
      1. +5
        16 June 2014 17: 07
        Quote: RED_ICE
        Pay the EU))

        The EU has already paid everything
  55. +1
    16 June 2014 16: 01
    Quote: INVESTOR
    Dmitry Medvedev called the behavior of Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy Deshchytsy inappropriate.
    “And these are some absurd, unreasonable actions, although after the inadequate behavior of the foreign minister in Ukraine, nothing surprises me,” Medvedev said at a meeting with Gazprom head Alexei Miller and energy minister Alexander Novak.

    In turn, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that he had nothing to talk about with “Deshchitsa's character”.

    Finally, our government realized that there was no point in talking with the thieves’ junta. good drinks soldier
  56. +1
    16 June 2014 16: 09
    Does anyone else really think that it is the Ukrainian authorities who decide what decisions to make, and not only on gas supplies? Without permission from the State Department, they don’t even dare release gases from their own bodies.
  57. +1
    16 June 2014 16: 10
    This position of the Ukrainian government thieves, which I think they will present in Stockholm, is briefly called “THE THIEF IS SCREAMING, STOP THE THIEF!” Europe is not so stupid to allow gas destined for it to be stolen in front of the eyes of the whole world. In this case, she will not give even one eurocent of help, and I know that this will be so! They, too, will soon declare - “FIRST GAS IN FULL VOLUME, AND THEN financial and other AID...”
    This strange position of the junta company on the most important issue of gas can have only one explanation - they sold the entire gas transmission system to the Americans for nothing. That's why they're mocking. It’s no coincidence that the son of American Vice President Biden hangs out as their curator!
  58. +1
    16 June 2014 16: 12
    “It seems to me, gentlemen, that it was... a comedy” (c).
  59. +1
    16 June 2014 16: 18
    Send them a lip sealer as a parcel.
  60. 0
    16 June 2014 16: 23
    Tyras85 Are you a fascist henchman going to point out who owes whom? There's something wrong with your skull and your face down. Until summer. But it will end. Here is the moment of truth - the trembling and freezing U..outskirts - through your fault - Yaytsenyuh. You and many others - WILL SMELL THE MIGHTY FIST OF RUSSIA. Ask Europe and America and PSSACKY to supply gas for FREE - I’ll look at this laughter!!! They didn't care about you. What the States need is a BRANDHEAD AGAINST RUSSIA - BY ANY WAY. WILL NOT COME OUT! YOU WILL PAY IN THE BUTYRA CHAMBER NEAR PARASHA TOGETHER WITH PARASYOSHENKO—LITTLE SCAMS AND PROVOCATORS!
  61. +1
    16 June 2014 16: 25
    Ministry of Energy of Ukraine: Russia cut off gas supplies to the country
    KIEV, June 16. / ITAR-TASS /. Russia cut off gas supplies to Ukraine; gas transit to the European Union is 185 million cubic meters per day. This was announced at a meeting of the Ukrainian government by the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine Yuriy Prodan.

    “Today, there is a message about reducing gas supplies to zero. Only the volume of transit to European countries remained, it amounts to 185 million cubic meters per day, ”Prodan said.
    “We are ready for such a development of events. We guarantee reliable gas supply to Ukrainian consumers, ”the minister added.
    From 10.00 on Monday, June 16, Gazprom, in accordance with the current contract, transferred Naftogaz Ukrainy to an advance payment of gas supplies, the Russian gas company said.
    Moscow postponed the deadline for entering the prepayment three times. The last postponement of the term - from June 10 to the beginning of this week - was explained by the Ministry of Energy for technical reasons.
    Previously, Gazprom made a compromise and agreed to receive payment from Naftogaz for April and May deliveries, based on the price offered to Ukraine from June 1 at $ 384,86 per 1 cubic meters. The initial debt for the first two months of the second quarter (based on the price of $ 485,5 per 1 thousand cubic meters) amounted to $ 3 billion.
  62. MSA
    MSA
    +1
    16 June 2014 16: 30
    What nonsense, in my opinion, they are not at all aware of their actions and thoughts - complete scumbags!!!
  63. +2
    16 June 2014 16: 31
    But the Western bitches will arrange it in such a way that Russia will be guilty, since Western political technologists are very savvy. They are not the first to do such things, and the crests will also win the arbitration court in Stockholm, only because Russia will always be to blame, only for the fact that it IS! And we all know what international courts are, take the Hague Court for example!
  64. +2
    16 June 2014 16: 36
    Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said that over the entire post-Soviet period, Russia helped Ukraine worth a quarter of a trillion dollars. The head of government announced this on Tuesday, April 22, speaking in the State Duma after a report on the work of the government

    + T-
    “[250 billion dollars is] essentially the amount of support that we have provided to our Ukrainian friends and brothers through all kinds of preferences over, perhaps, the entire post-Soviet history,” Interfax quotes the prime minister as saying. The prime minister noted that we are talking, in particular, about “non-market conditions for gas trade.”


    In fact, Russia needs this money more. Especially for the development of the country!
  65. 0
    16 June 2014 17: 07
    “In the big world, people are driven by the desire to benefit humanity. The small world is far from such lofty matters. Its inhabitants have one desire - to live somehow without feeling hungry.” - “The Golden Calf” novel by I. Ilf and E. Petrov
  66. Horse meat
    +1
    16 June 2014 17: 11
    Maybe a little off topic:

    "If mom is in the store
    I just bought you a ball
    And he doesn't want the rest
    Buy everything he sees,
    Stand straight, heels together,
    Place your arms to the sides,
    Open your mouth wider
    And shout the letter "A"!
    And when, dropping the bags,
    With a cry: "Citizens! Alarm!"
    Buyers will rush
    Led by sellers
    The store director is here to see you
    He will crawl up and tell his mother:
    "Take everything for free,
    Let him just shut up."
    G. Oster

    Does Ukraine want this?
  67. 0
    16 June 2014 17: 14
    I’m not even catching up)) Yaytsenyuk was going to Europe with a proposal for reverse supplies from these countries... which raises the question... where is the brain!!! Even the Czech Republic buys for 400, Macedonia pays almost 500!!! firstly, they will not sell to their detriment, and if they do, what will the price be!! the price will be more than what they themselves pay, and this is in many ways more than what Russia offered. And who in general will now have relations in such an intimate sphere as energy, with such a state with such a credit history, and so on and so on. The prefix lumberjacks will soon be added to the right-wingers.
  68. 0
    16 June 2014 17: 17
    hmm, dancing with a tambourine does not subside.
  69. 0
    16 June 2014 17: 30
    The SBU suspected deputy Oleg Lyashko of having ties with Russia
    Verkhovna Rada Speaker Alexander Turchynov instructed the SBU to check the trips of the leader of the radicals and several other parliamentarians to Moscow.

    Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Alexander Turchynov instructed the Security Service of Ukraine to check the trips of MP from the Party of Regions faction Alexander Efremov and non-factional deputy Oleg Lyashko to Moscow. After parliamentarians visited the Russian capital, they were suspected of separatism.

    Turchinov’s demand was preceded by a quarrel between Alexander Efremov and the leader of the radicals Lyashko, who focused the attention of deputies on the former’s trip to the Russian capital.
  70. Aleksandr68
    0
    16 June 2014 17: 33
    “The introduction of prepayment for Kyiv is the only possible step. It should have been introduced a month ago. Let Yatsenyuk receive shale gas from the United States.” - Prepayment should have been introduced 10 years ago (under Yushchenko) now they would have walked the line! But in general this is the feeling that the conversation is with a megalomaniac who is also being stroked on the head by someone with a black ass.
  71. 0
    16 June 2014 17: 39
    It's quite simple. Ukrainian leaders want Russia to subsidize gas prices for the Ukrainian population. Where does the figure 286 dollars come from? Under Janik, the price of gas for the population of dill was comparable to the price of gas for Russians - 155 dollars per 1000 m3. (In my bill for consumed gas the price is 5.58 rubles per 1 m3 or 5580 rubles per 1000 m3 or 155 dollars per 1000 m3) The leaders of the dill promised their population an increase in gas prices by 75%, multiply 155x1.75 = 271 dollars. Two birds with one stone: what they promised to their residents and the budget money can be directed to war. Russia ITSELF must sponsor the murder of the population of the southeast.
  72. 0
    16 June 2014 17: 40
    Hmmm, boors and even arrogant, it’s not for nothing that there is a saying “Where a Russian has passed, a Jew has nothing to do”! Well, never mind, now they’ll break off and now let Europe mess with them. With the mattress covers themselves, they created this miracle of nature, and maybe a mistake! - now let them have fun with them (they sponsor, pump intestinal gas into them and support in every possible way the so-called economy of the Independent Outskirts). Maybe gradually the scales will fall from the eyes of the population and they will see who is who, although with such zombification this is unlikely li!
  73. VSC
    0
    16 June 2014 17: 47
    The question is, why does Gazprom so want to supply gas to Ukraine? Apparently not a snout in a cannon, but a snout in fur! They clearly want to hide something (to put it simply). Or is this a channel through which unaccounted for gas is easily pumped? Don’t say, it can’t be that there is control equipment, there are only pressure gauges.
  74. 0
    16 June 2014 18: 04
    I don’t feel sorry for my relatives in Ukraine, but they deserve it with their silence sad
  75. +1
    16 June 2014 18: 34
    Here you are, cursed from the independent Ukraine wassat
    1. 0
      16 June 2014 20: 00
      Yeah, Ukraine itself blocked the pipe and refused to sell potatoes to Russia! laughingThank you namesake, I made you happy!
  76. kelevra
    0
    16 June 2014 18: 36
    Ha-ha-ha-ha, we owe something to someone, everyone who thinks so, sooner or later, runs far away from our anger!
  77. 0
    16 June 2014 18: 40
    awesome! but don’t they want to get hit in the snout naked? It’s time to put this whole park on children and get them vaccinated against rabies
  78. 0
    16 June 2014 18: 43
    Aahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha laughing laughing laughing Calm me down laughing crests, have you eaten fish soup?))))))))
    1. On the bayonet
      0
      16 June 2014 19: 03
      This is no longer arrogance. This is complete degradation. The Americans, having carried out an innovative surgical operation through the ass, took out the brains of these creatures and now they are definitely no longer people, they are zombies...
  79. 0
    16 June 2014 19: 06
    Yes, let them poke, but the geyropa did not forget to pay the meter. They took the bitch fashion from us with sanctions
    poison, now keep the answer from Rus', pay for your kents’ dill.
    The cabs are rear-wheel drive.
  80. +1
    16 June 2014 19: 21
    I read the beginning and did not further study the delirium of the feverish Svidomo brain.
  81. smoker
    0
    16 June 2014 19: 24
    Hm. A familiar scheme... For 3 rubles he will insert such a thing into your meter, the meter will start spinning in the opposite direction and in the end it will no longer be you who owe the electric company, but the electric company to you.


    Kyiv is burning!!!
  82. 0
    16 June 2014 20: 26
    I wonder if the Russian side did not offer such an option, when the Russian Federation PAYS EXTRA to dill for the gas supplied, because it deigned to take it from us? However, I’m afraid that even with such a perverted option, the egg sniffer will threaten us with legal action - they say that Russia pays us little (not market value...) for gas...
  83. 0
    16 June 2014 22: 17
    Khuntv has become completely insolent in the euphoria of its power, its actions do not obey any logic, in their Ukraine there is a complete theater of the absurd and the ending, alas, is terrible, because the stage is no longer enough for these artists: they move into the auditorium and go out onto the street. And they will use the audience to create bloody scenery. The director can no longer control these executioner comedians.
    Alas, we spectators will still have to participate in this performance...
  84. 0
    16 June 2014 22: 23
    Bad news of course. But on the other hand, gas prices immediately increased by 10%. Maybe there will be at least some compensation to Gazprom.
    Also noteworthy is the message that Europe will not tyrannize South Stream. Let's see.
    Although this is a double-edged sword. It won’t work out that we’ll spend 16 billion. euros for construction, and then the United States will organize a Maidan in Bulgaria for 500 thousand dollars and again turn off the gas tap?
  85. 0
    16 June 2014 23: 46
    So they will get carried away, they will soon say that Gazprom is a Ukrainian company, but Pasaka hinted to them that gas comes from Europe to Russia. How can you not trust your elders?
  86. 0
    16 June 2014 23: 56
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Ukraine also starts selling stolen gas
  87. 0
    17 June 2014 00: 03
    They will have enough gas until winter, although I very much doubt it (most likely in a month or two they will steal everything they have pumped). But then something painfully familiar begins. They will not hesitate to blame Russia for the fact that millions of unfortunate Ukrainians died from the cold and froze in their unheated huts. In addition to the stories about the Holodomor, there will be legends about the Holodomor.
  88. 0
    17 June 2014 01: 20
    Objectively, the EU remains our partner in the matter of gas supply. The position of Yatsenyuk broadcasts the US line to the escalation of the conflict - not Europe.
    Yes, they are all smeared with the same world. Only when the frost and their pockets begin to crack will they begin to figure out who is their “partner” and who is a freeloader.
  89. +5
    17 June 2014 01: 54
    Yuri Prodan, who, together with the then Prime Minister of Ukraine Tymoshenko, himself participated in the signing of the contract

    Timoshenka was imprisoned. Why didn’t Prodan serve his time? Or was it already sold then? bully