Gas negotiations in Kiev completed

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Gas negotiations in Kiev completed

The gas talks in Kiev, in which European Commissioner Günther Oettinger took part, Gazprom’s Chairman of the Board Alexey Miller and Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who was appointed by the Verkhovna Rada Prime Minister of Ukraine, ended.


Gas debts and payments of Ukraine. Infographics itar-tass


The issue of transferring Naftogaz to prepayment is still on the agenda. This was reported to ITAR-TASS by the official representative of Gazprom, Sergei Kupriyanov.

According to him, the negotiations, which began on Sunday evening, ended around 02: 30 Moscow time.

"The Russian side expects payment of accumulated gas debt in the amount of $ 1,951 billion to 10: 00 Moscow time 16 June. In the event of a lack of funds, as was previously announced, gas supplies to Ukraine are transferred to the prepayment mode," said Kupriyanov.

Meanwhile, as the Chairman of the Board of Naftogaz Ukraine, Andrei Kobolev, said, the chance of reaching a compromise before the start of the new gas day still remains.

The Russian side postponed the deposit prepayment period three times and no longer plans to do this. The last postponement - from June 10 to the beginning of this week - is explained by the Ministry of Energy for technical reasons.

I can’t get rid of the feeling that Ukrainians are either advising to make their position irreconcilable on all these issues, or it’s dizzy with success
Sergey Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister


The head of the Russian gas holding, Miller, said earlier that for November-December, Naftogaz should transfer $ 1,454 billion and show progress in paying bills for April and May. According to him, during the period of trilateral negotiations, Ukraine’s debt has increased by $ 2 billion, and now unpaid deliveries amount to 11,150 billion cubic meters.

During the last meeting in Brussels, Gazprom has already compromised and agreed to receive payment from Naftogaz for April and May deliveries based on the price offered to Ukraine from June 1 at $ 384,86 per 1 thousand cubic meters. The initial amount of debt in the first two months of the second quarter - based on the price of $ 485,5 per 1 thousand cubic meters - was $ 3 billion.

But the Ukrainian side still links debt repayment with the initial agreement on gas prices starting from June 1.

Energy Minister Yuriy Prodan, appointed by the Verkhovna Rada, calls a new price of 326 dollars for 1 thousand cubic meters, against $ 268 for 1 thousand cubic meters, which the Ukrainian side insisted on earlier. At the same time, the average price of Russian gas supplies to Europe is $ 380-390 per 1 thousand cubic meters.

The head of Gazprom earlier said that the proposed Russian price for gas for Ukraine at $ 385 per 1 thousand cubic meters is objective and supported by the European Commission. He noted that this price corresponds to the assessment of the recommendations of the International Monetary Fund for Ukraine.

In the first quarter of 2014, the gas price for Ukraine amounted to $ 268,5 per 1 thousand cubic meters and was formed as a result of the combined effect of two discounts - for the Black Sea based in Crimea fleet Of the Russian Federation, which was automatically canceled after the transition of Crimea under the jurisdiction of Russia, as well as the discount granted to Ukraine as part of the package of anti-crisis assistance from the Russian Federation in November 2013. The second discount has been canceled since April due to Ukraine’s non-payment of gas debts.
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  1. Stalker
    +33
    16 2014 June
    Apparently everything goes to this ... request
    1. +23
      16 2014 June
      In general, it is not clear what and what to talk about for so long ???? After all, in the store no one requires the seller to reduce the price or discount for the same loaf of bread, you want to buy it, if you can’t or don’t want toda, goodbye and be healthy! Or I don’t understand something ...
      1. +6
        16 2014 June
        Quote: Tatar 174
        In general, it is not clear what and what to talk about for so long ????

        me too. cut down and everything. and there let Europe think where the gas intended for it goes.
        1. +1
          16 2014 June
          Do not just cut down and impose an embargo on both supply and transit.
        2. 0
          16 2014 June
          OJSC Gazprom filed a claim with Stockholm International Arbitration Tribunal to Naftogaz Ukrainy to recover a debt of $ 4,5 billion in connection with improper fulfillment by Naftogaz of Ukraine of its obligations under Contract No. KP of 19.01.2009 purchase and sale of natural gas in 2009 – 2019 years (Contract), accumulated by this company for significant debts for natural gas supplied under the Contract and the lack of payments for current deliveries.

          From 10: 00 of Moscow time on June 16 of June 2014, OJSC Gazprom will supply natural gas to Naftogaz Ukrainy only in the amount that has been prepaid in accordance with the terms of the Contract.

          At the same time, Naftogaz Ukrainy is required to ensure the transit of natural gas to third countries in full compliance with the terms of the current Contract No. TKGU from 19.01.2009 between Naftogaz Ukrainy and Gazprom on volumes and conditions of transit of natural gas through Ukraine for the period from 2009 to 2019 years.

          Gazprom is counting on strict compliance by Naftogaz of Ukraine with its contractual obligations for gas transit to third countries.

          At the same time, the European Commission was notified in advance of possible interruptions in gas transit in the event that Naftogaz Ukrainy NAC unauthorized to take gas from transit flows.

          Gazprom has already taken and will continue to make the greatest possible efforts aimed at preventing potential interruptions in gas transit for European buyers.

          Press Center of Gazprom
          1. 0
            16 2014 June
            Quote: DMB87
            From 10: 00 Moscow time 16 June 2014 year Gazprom will supply natural gas Naftogaz Ukrainy only in the amount that has been prepaid in accordance with the terms of the Contract

            - So already not paid, why deliver something ...
            1. 0
              16 2014 June
              It means nothing, as paid, and so put that incomprehensible something ...
      2. +4
        16 2014 June
        Quote: Tatar 174
        Or I don’t understand something ...

        Of course you don’t understand, you don’t even understand at all. Here svezhak from Kiev wink
        “With each round of negotiations, we saw that the Russian side is practically not inclined to find a market compromise. The Russian side is set to escalate the conflict and did not agree to any compromise, very specific proposals voiced by the European Commission, ”Prodan said.http://news.mail.ru/politics/18554517/
        1. +2
          16 2014 June
          Sold it is sold, the viper himself, together with Julia, signed a gas contract, and now I am not me and the house is not mine! And what are our authorities waiting for? Yes, take and expel all the ukrov zapadentsev from the Siberian regions, where they do not "hilo" hammer the loot and you will see how the Maidan sweeps away the pig junta, and our citizens (especially young people) will get more jobs!
      3. deathfa
        +1
        16 2014 June
        America allegedly trilled a trillion m3 of shale gas near Slavyansk according to their technology, they can be extracted, they are ruining people. They will smell of gas with blood.
        1. +1
          16 2014 June
          Quote: SmertFa
          America allegedly trumped their head near Slavyansk with a supposedly trillion M3 of shale gas according to their technology, they can be extracted, they are ruining people. They will smell like gas

          Vyacheslav, I don’t think that smart people - and stupid people, even on the wave of the Maidan would not have climbed to the top - did not look at it realistically. You can get a trillion, another question - for what period of time and how much to invest in it. In our Kuzbass, according to estimates, in order to mine 1 _billion m3 methane in _year_, you need to invest at least 1 _bn dollars. Over the life cycle of wells, say even 25 years, it will be, respectively, 25 billion m3. Although the stocks are yes, they are in the hundreds of trillions of M3. So the proportions of investments and returns are clear :)
        2. +2
          16 2014 June
          Quote: SmertFa
          .Will smell their blood gas.

          Will not! They will not have gas!
      4. +1
        16 2014 June
        Quote: Tartar 174
        In general, it is not clear what and what to talk about for so long ???? After all, in the store no one requires the seller to reduce the price or discount for the same loaf of bread, you want to buy it, if you can’t or don’t want toda, goodbye and be healthy! Or I don’t understand something ...

        Well, now here the technical specialists in the field of kitchen repairs will once again begin to talk about what to shut off, or rather even to close, the gas valve is OMG what a difficult procedure in technical terms that a state that launches people into space cannot solve for half a year now delivering gas to a hostile regime for free, or rather, for our money, and that if you shut off this gas, then as a result of increased pressure in the pipe (well, just like when shooting from a tank gun) these tubes will explode to hell with a capacity of 10 Hiroshima ... Well, such nonsense.
        1. +1
          16 2014 June
          Quote: Letun
          They begin to talk about what to shut off, or rather even to close, the gas valve is OMG, which is a technically complicated procedure,

          why, on the contrary, whether Miller or Novak on TV said that closing the valve is a trifling matter :) Surpluses are very easily regulated by using underground gas storages, which will need to be supplemented soon by winter :)
      5. 0
        16 2014 June
        Quote: Tatar 174
        Or I do not understand something.

        If the same store sells the same thing, then you can bargain with the seller for lowering the price, especially if this seller is the owner.
        I already described the gas situation and it’s not so simple there and this is one of the key moments for Ukraine and the ATO as a whole and everything is tied to Europe and gas distillation and it’s not possible to take and chop off gas just like that. Where to store, save and accumulate it is flowing.
    2. +5
      16 2014 June
      It is high time!!!
    3. +5
      16 2014 June
      Hmm ... Now LET DOWNLOAD ... !!!
      1. +13
        16 2014 June
        I would like to hope that at ten zero zero they’ll really block the freebie. Especially after all the events over the past weekend ...
    4. +1
      16 2014 June
      Question - HOW to do this if the GTS goes THROUGH Ukraine?
      1. +2
        16 2014 June
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Question - HOW to do this if the GTS goes THROUGH Ukraine?

        There they have somehow figured out a scheme through the Nord Stream to Germany, and there, it seems, they will be "transported" further from Germany. Somewhere there was infa, but it is necessary to search more precisely.
      2. 0
        16 2014 June
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Question - HOW to do this if the GTS goes THROUGH Ukraine?


        There is only one way out - to supply only the volume of gas paid by Europe.
    5. +4
      16 2014 June
      We are waiting for 10.00 today ...
    6. +14
      16 2014 June
      I’m sorry that this is not the topic, here the news appeared that the BMP crew that drove into the territory of Russia were shot by the right-wingers.

      15.06.2014, 23: 07. Message from Fedor Berezin, chief deputy and “right hand” Igor Ivanovich Strelkov.

      “The main weapon of the junto army is not even the Grad - terror. "Grads", by the way, dozens to and fro in the region. Probably, if now some Romania, or someone else, attacks, it will not meet a single military vehicle on the way to Kiev. That's it - Donbass ironing. So here. A few days ago, a Ukrainian armored car drove into the territory of Russia (freeze fish). However, he met an obstacle - he drowned in a stream. The second came to help. Dragged by a cable - not pulled. As a result, they threw the car and crossed the border back. However, this is not the main result. After the proceedings, the entire crew that threw the car was shot by law enforcement officers. Democracy - where to go? Euro-values ​​- how without them? Kiev-Ivano-Frankivsk mothers, when will you wake up?
      The small town of Snezhnoe and Bandera humor.
      Snowy is also in the Donbass. For several days now, the city under fire, however, was not Grad. "Just" guns and mortars. Nice job. Our sent for the "two hundredth." Remained in enemy territory. There we have two militias killed. We agreed with the Ukrainian side (not at the Ukrainian government level, but at the personal level). Arrived at the place, and he was led to the ditch and said:
      “What's yours? Choose anyone. ” Well, and in a ditch of corpses interspersed. In a decent amount. Apparently, the junto army exceeded the plan.
      Why were there on the Maidan? For European values ​​and game democracy? Thanks.
      I really believe that we will never live in one country again. ”
    7. +8
      16 2014 June
      "The Russian side expects payment of accumulated gas debt in the amount of $ 1,951 billion to 10: 00 Moscow time 16 June. In the event of a lack of funds, as was previously announced, gas supplies to Ukraine are transferred to the prepayment mode," said Kupriyanov.
      On the Ukrop Saites, complete disregard for both debt and shutdown. All comments are reduced to one
      Hto don’t ride that maskal, Hto don’t ride that maskal laughing
      1. +4
        16 2014 June
        Well, what else can I add?
      2. +2
        16 2014 June
        Yeah, wait for the heating season and see how they jump in ... wassat And I don’t have such a round dance, it’s very sad ... (((
    8. +3
      16 2014 June
      Russia used all formats of negotiations, made concessions, and provided more favorable conditions. Now it can quite rightly limit gas supplies to Ukraine, due to non-payment.

      And now let even one flea mongrel yap that Russia treacherously, without compromise and without compromise dishonestly cut off gas.
      1. +3
        16 2014 June
        That's what they say.
        And no matter how many advantages they were offered.
        We are a priori - "threshing floor" and everything comes from this.
        The management of Naftogaz is purely American and the goal is to prevent Europe from receiving gas in order to make Russia an unreliable supplier. Well, of course, after twenty years, deliveries of gas from America will be the most reliable and it does not matter that it will be expensive.
        Europe is so controlled and squeaky that a mouth on them will not open and will do as they say from behind a puddle.
        While healthy people are not visible there, it means - everything goes according to their scenario.
  2. +5
    16 2014 June
    This "someone" is sitting behind a big puddle ...
  3. +13
    16 2014 June
    Greetings to all members of the forum! In my humble opinion, after the closure of the gas tap, the rhetoric of our "European partners" may change dramatically after a while, because they also understand the automatic start of direct theft of European gas from the pipe. What's that, but they count their money. hi
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      Quote: General Frost
      because they also understand the automatic beginning of the direct theft of European gas from the pipe already. What’s what, and they consider their money.

      The vulgar time they stole, Europe blamed Russia for everything and said that Russia was no longer a reliable partner. Now it will be the same.
      1. 0
        17 2014 June
        There is a slight parallel, between Ukraine and the DPRK, some demand free gas threatening the energy security of Europe, others threaten their neighbors with nuclear weapons, but the reaction to these actions is different on the part of the “partners.” No matter how Russia does, we will still be bad, but maybe enough , there is only the interests of the state that must be supported by specific forceful actions, then everything will be more reasonable and adequate. Time has shown that the West understands only strength and nothing but strength (my humble opinion) hi
  4. +8
    16 2014 June
    Alas, ala’s politics somehow doesn’t work anymore ... Russia has nothing left to do, besides shutting off the valve ... the Americans have achieved their goal ...
    Now the price of gas, in connection with the theft of gas, will rise. And it will rise until it begins to develop shale gas rentally. And then those who are now behind the dill-American corporations, the developers of this, will enter the arena. the gas itself ...
    And the second factor is to expect an increase in the ATO so that as many people as possible leave DPR and LPR ... People are not needed in the fields ... Tragic, but, in my opinion, this is already a fait accompli.
    Only the EU’s position is incomprehensible. They don’t understand that this is a collapse, or have they become so dependent on the USA?
    1. +2
      16 2014 June
      That's right, it’s scary that it will be cleaned up like from the Indians, for Amers the Slavs and all the rest are not people. It’s only they are exceptional. (Oh, to exclude this muck from the planet).
      1. +3
        16 2014 June
        We’re not so stupid as to go into hell ourselves ... They know perfectly well what and when to do. After the First World War, when the whole world was in ruin, it turned out to be chocolate ... After the second, in general, next to the winner of fascism, the USSR ... Superpower ... After the end of the Cold War, the country is hegemonic, dictator ...
        Bleed the countries, and then just join the winner to grab your piece of victory ... And then economically put the letter si and the winner ...
  5. +12
    16 2014 June
    Finally, they began to act and set their own conditions. In the light of recent events, it seems that this decision of Gazprom is only the first brick in the foundation of the newly built relations with the non-state of Ukraine. Looking forward to the next bricks and even cobblestones. And it is desirable that they first hit them in the face, in the face ... Well, then you can go to the foundation ...
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      Quote: retired
      Finally, they began to act and set their own conditions. In the light of recent events, it seems that this decision of Gazprom is only the first brick in the foundation of the newly built relations with the non-state of Ukraine. Looking forward to the next bricks and even cobblestones. And it is desirable that they first hit them in the face, in the face ... Well, then you can go to the foundation ...

      Saturday events in Kiev could not affect the decision!
      "I think so!" ("Mimino" (C))
  6. Alikovo
    +3
    16 2014 June
    even if everyone pays at once, they’ll end up in such a well.
    1. +2
      16 2014 June
      Quote: Alikovo
      even if everyone pays at once, they’ll end up in such a well.

      They are ALREADY there. Yes
      1. deathfa
        +1
        16 2014 June
        Dear in the Euro-ass!
        1. 0
          16 2014 June
          Quote: SmertFa
          In the euro

          stop You just do not tell the Professor about IT!
  7. Death to the Nazis
    +6
    16 2014 June
    I can’t get rid of the feeling that Ukrainians are either being consulted by someone in order to make their position irreconcilable on all these issues, or this is dizziness from success.

    Sergey Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister


    Yo, my. Reaching begins? Or will we talk again?
    1. +5
      16 2014 June
      He just hinted feel He who has ears will hear the true background of Lavrov’s words - hello to the Americans lol
  8. +3
    16 2014 June
    It was necessary to block for a long time! We spent less time and effort on ATO and parashenka elections, and thought about the main thing. And it's easier to negotiate the price of gas when their storage is empty!
  9. +3
    16 2014 June
    Apparently everything is going to war. The gas issue is a deterrent to the deployment of troops to begin an operation to force peace, to close the sky. The question is not resolved, and I’m tired of waiting, it’s sickening to give in, pride is undermined. It seems that the Ukrainians themselves are asking themselves, BUT TO. And apparently everything goes to the fact that ours will soon accept the challenge, for patience and generosity is great, but not unlimited.
    1. +3
      16 2014 June
      no, he just voiced what is already known. Previously, he was tactfully silent.
  10. +1
    16 2014 June
    the Yankees are clearly the consultants Yes but there’s still time before 10.00:XNUMX ... hi
  11. +2
    16 2014 June
    it’s high time to close the tap. they won’t give the money back. counted donated. maybe only some part. VVP consider their economy. By that, it’s supported. Although this money would go to our state. And after that Putin’s extreme. He’s to blame for everything. Yesterday I tried prove to one Ukrainian woman that the Americans are to blame. that the civil war is out of them. it’s useless. although the number of Czechs. zombies are shorter. Putin and all the aggressors. and then they’re bombing. They’re going to live on Th. it’s not clear. She said to me yesterday that you don’t go to us.
  12. +5
    16 2014 June
    Negotiations on gas with UKRAINE remind idiotic clowning. fool
    RUSSIA ukram ... pay for gas ... hi
    Ukrainians radiate WASHINGTON to pay or not to pay ....
    WASHINGTON don’t pay, lie to the Russians as much as you can .. bully
    Ukrainians of RUSSIA we will pay mos ..kalyam our price ... which we will calculate ... tongue
    RUSSIA ukram is not gentlemanly sad
    Ukrainians of RUSSIA .. you go fuck like you stole and we will steal your gas fellow
  13. +3
    16 2014 June
    Let their six, the southern stream, drop off at full price throughout Europe. They will slow down the dibs themselves.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      Quote: westland
      . Brake dybily

      Remember, back in the winter, we discussed that the Americans had taken from dill the most valuable Scythian Gold and ..... GTS. What will cost a hohlothrub after the introduction of the South Stream? So why do you think that they are stupid people who are trying to protect their investments request
      They understand everything, and therefore they are slowing down. And if the shortages of our gas shake the European economy, then in general it’s good!
      So besides dill, there are no woodpeckers there, just Geyropa licks from mattresses, and they do what they need.
  14. scarp
    +4
    16 2014 June
    What about the price? Why doesn’t the price sound on all the resources in this super news? Vague doubts torment that Gazprom has woken up again. If the price is not 385, then these negotiations are worthless.
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      Russia offered Kiev a compromise: a discount to the contract price of $ 100 per thousand cubic meters - up to $ 385. The head of the Russian Ministry of Energy Alexander Novak noted that this level is absolutely market level, corresponds to the lower limit of the "fork" of gas prices in the countries bordering on Ukraine and does not motivate for re-export.

      However, the Ukrainian side was not satisfied with this proposal, first of all - the mechanism of granting a discount due to the export duty. The head of the Ukrainian Energy Ministry, Yuriy Prodan, called this mechanism a "trap", since the provision of a discount, as well as its cancellation, depends on the Russian government. Kiev requires changes to the contract itself.

      At the same time, the Ukrainian side insists on setting the price at the level of the first quarter at $ 268,5, refusing to pay otherwise for gas, including already supplied. In the process of negotiations, which lasted almost two months, Ukraine moved from this position a little, expressing its readiness to pay for gas at a temporary price, which would be set for the period of proceedings in the Stockholm arbitration, where Kiev hopes to achieve a revision of the Gazprom contract and " Naftogaz ".

      First, the Minister of Energy of Ukraine said that such a price could be 326 dollars. On Monday night it became known that the Ukrainian side supported the proposal of the European Commissioner to set the price for the winter period at 385 dollars, for the summer period - at 300 dollars or slightly more... "I think there is still a chance tomorrow before 9.00 (10.00 Moscow time) in Kiev. A new gas day begins to confirm this compromise," said the head of Naftogaz.

      The Russian side, according to Oettinger, has not yet supported his plan, insisting on the immediate payment of a debt of 1,95 billion dollars and a price of 385 dollars for the whole year.

      ria.ru
  15. +3
    16 2014 June
    There was no need to clatter with them at all. They reduced the gas supply, and even if the EU had a headache.
    Dill for any would steal gas from the EU. Let them deal with dill. And not Russia.
    How many more will we turn the second cheek?
  16. +2
    16 2014 June
    Ukrainian politicians have turned into capricious, spoiled girls, and ours are grinning before them. It may already be enough to humiliate yourself.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      Quote: Siberian
      turned into moody, spoiled girls, and ours are grinning before them.

      "Under the belly and on the cheek" as one of my friends used to say.
      The basics of courteous treatment with European young ladies.
  17. skate44
    +10
    16 2014 June
    Enough of course already nursing with Ukraine, a lot of honor. I live in Siberia. NOVOSIBIRSK REGION. GAS HAVE NOT BEEN SEEN, I would certainly like to live in comfort, but apparently the west is more important and the conditions will be harsher there.
  18. +2
    16 2014 June
    Good night to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and our special services. A national trait is to wave fists after a fight.
  19. +5
    16 2014 June
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Question - HOW to do this if the GTS goes THROUGH Ukraine?


    There is also a northern stream with a reserved capacity of 50% and a gas transmission system through Belarus. But in any case, the volume of deliveries to Europe from Gazprom will decrease by 1/3. In principle, they themselves are to blame. There was nothing to flirt with galloping baboons in reverse scams. Well, you look at the southern stream, it’ll be more fun.
  20. +3
    16 2014 June
    I do not believe. Again, the deadlines for prepayments will be postponed, as it was more than once.
  21. +3
    16 2014 June
    If this is true - wait 10-00 Moscow time. We consider, as in the New Year - One ..., two ..., three !!! We rejoice loudly, laugh a little hysterically, and with a sense of accomplishment we go to do everyday things! And the Ukrainians? And what about the Ukrainians - they finally got their way. Let them jump further - before the winter.
  22. +6
    16 2014 June
    Yes figs with her, with Europe.

    Japanese parliamentarians decided to build a gas pipeline from Sakhalin to Tokyo to buy Russian gas. The price of gas may be higher than under the contract with China and will allow to sell up to 20 billion cubic meters per year. Around this pipe, the interests of Gazprom and Rosneft will intersect, the head of which has already requested general access to the future gas transport system to China. In addition, new natural gas supplies may entail a revision of Gazprom’s plans for the production of liquefied natural gas in Sakhalin.
    South Korea continues to head for the implementation of the Trans-Korean gas pipeline, which will deliver Russian gas through North Korea.
    The truth about North Korea, I’m somehow not sure, most likely they’ll let me go to the bottom.
    1. +3
      16 2014 June
      North Korea is available for a nominal price. Due to overpricing for the American ally - South Korea :)))
    2. +2
      16 2014 June


      Lower house deputy from ruling Liberal Democratic Party Naokazu Takemoto:

      "The gas pipeline construction program will be carried out by a consortium of private companies, whose names I would not like to give at this stage, when the details are being coordinated. However, we want the project to be supported by government ministries and departments. I can assure you that this is no longer easy The idea, the project is at the stage of real concretization. Interested private companies have created a committee to work out specific problems, in particular, a committee headed by a native of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, "the deputy noted.

      "Contacts with the Russian side on this topic have been carried out for quite a long time. We received assurances that Russia as a whole is ready to support this initiative and has the appropriate reserves of natural gas for supplies to Japan," he continued.

      "In past years, a project was put forward to lay a gas pipeline from Sakhalin to the Tokyo zone along the ocean floor along the coast of Japan. However, there have been numerous problems with fishing rights, with the protection of marine biological resources. Our current project envisages laying a gas pipeline to the Tokyo zone by land from the Wakkanai area. Before it, from Sakhalin, it will be laid along the bottom of the La Perouse Strait in an area where fishing is not conducted. It will also be carried through the Sangar Strait between the islands of Hokkaido and the island of Honshu. We do not see any environmental problems, everything will be planned in compliance with government safety standards, "said Naokazu Takemoto.

      "Most of the gas pipeline is supposed to be laid under the existing roads owned by the state and local authorities. They will receive payment for using the space under these routes, and no additional lease or purchase of land will be required," the parliamentarian explained.

      According to experts, the total length of the gas pipeline from Sakhalin to Ibaraki prefecture adjacent to Greater Tokyo will amount to 1,35 thousand km. Its construction costs are estimated at 600 billion yen (slightly less than $ 6 billion).

      http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1246208
  23. +3
    16 2014 June
    Quote: Armagedon
    Hmm ... Now LET DOWNLOAD ... !!!

    At last!!! Let them blow firewood good
  24. dFG
    +4
    16 2014 June
    in principle, the Russian Federation did not try to agree with Europe, but Ukrainians didn’t interfere ..... now either money or a decrease in gas, and here the European partners are left face to face with their Khokhlov colleagues a sort of rehearsal of the economic association
  25. +1
    16 2014 June
    My heart is telling me that the gas will not be turned off. This is not a simple matter, one valve can not do.
  26. +2
    16 2014 June
    and Kiev, Europe will separately supply gas, the EU is urgently building a pipeline through which ukroina will receive fart gas from the latrines of Europe wassat
  27. +5
    16 2014 June
    I can’t get rid of the feeling that Ukrainians are either advising to make their position irreconcilable on all these issues, or it’s dizzy with success
    Sergey Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister
    There must be a place to be both at the same time. Apparently, the United States gave Ukraine a kind of carte blanche for any reckless actions, including pogroms of the embassy and negotiations into a dead end. Ukraine behaves like the last yard scumbag, smoked anasha.
    I just don’t understand one thing - how much longer will we babysit this unreasonable Ukrainian child? Maybe it's time to end diplomatic relations? And that, a normal measure of influence on those who have gone too far. Why does Russia now need to maintain diplomatic relations with Ukraine, which, strictly speaking, does not have a Foreign Ministry, but there is some kind of gathering of unprofessional fans to travel abroad? Recall the ambassador, freeze diplomatic relations - there are 3,5 million Ukrainians working in Russia, so let them go and rally in front of their Foreign Ministry, demanding that they return the opportunity to work and earn normally. And then somehow it turns out toothlessly, as in the anecdote about the ambassador who was devoured in Africa, and in response to a note from the Foreign Ministry, an offer was received: "Never mind, eat ours."
  28. +2
    16 2014 June
    Everything goes according to the American plan ... from Russia it did not work to make the aggressor and occupier of Ukraine.
    We decided to switch to a regime that affects everyone who lives ... to refuse gas ... it was they who refused, Rabbit made an official statement, but very soon the stones will fly to the Russian garden when mass outages in Ukraine and not only gas begin ... also electricity ... and this is all the rest of household happiness including water.
    The least affected are the territories loyal to the Junta ... and where their positions are weak, they will feel it in full.
    Again, pressure on the oligarchs ... there is no support at your enterprises as hard workers of maydauns ... there will be problems with energy carriers.
    The main development of directed hatred towards Russia.
  29. +1
    16 2014 June
    Surprised in full swing is the destruction of the Russian population in the southeast, and our rulers are trading with enemies like in the bazaar
  30. +3
    16 2014 June
    We are patiently waiting for the "H" time! And there - "let's see" who and how to "put cancer"!
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      So far, only us, with the help of our rulers, are being put "cancer"!
      1. 0
        16 2014 June
        not. when they showed Putin spoke with our government. why Ukrainians say they make strange statements about discounts. he smiled cunningly. that’s not so bad. everything is so planned. it was obvious. if you don’t believe in the internet there is this meeting. then the catch. for dill.
  31. +2
    16 2014 June
    Here many here "squealed", it is necessary to chop off, it is necessary to transfer to an advance payment immediately. Now they have transferred it, the debt has not decreased, for that we have defended a more advantageous position before the arbitration court. Because the first question of the judge will be - "Do not the parties agree to conclude an amicable agreement on the case under consideration", since Ukraine does not agree, then the third party of the European Commission and representatives of Russia may agree. If the lawsuit is launched, Russia will have the opportunity to file a counterclaim, and there the amounts are much higher. Only the risk of the theft of transit gas has not disappeared, most likely what they did not have time to pump into the storage facility is simply stolen. In the event of a completely deadlock situation, Nord Stream and Belarusian Transit can increase capacity.
  32. scarp
    +3
    16 2014 June
    Politics is a delicate matter, but it doesn’t look very much through the eyes of a layman: my neighbor confessed his love to a rich old politician through a gay neighbor, smeared my fence with shit, smashed my dog’s booth, a dog for a pitchfork, demolished the head of my nephew, which is from our common cousin , turned over and set fire to my car, took a bunch of dough without the possibility and intention of returning it, scribbled all the walls with abuse at me, constantly shouting through the fence that my wife was scumbag, his children beat all the windows in my house from the slingshot and wounded my beloved cat, the day before yesterday climbed into my garden and n @ shitted a good heap, and yesterday at a family sabantui in the open through the fence in the presence of guests called me x @ scrap. A neighbor-gay through the fence attentively watches everything and rubbishly rubs his hands, in every possible way approving and encouraging the tricks of the common neighbor. At the same time, it requires me not to turn off the water that goes to him through the garden of a fool's neighbor, who has not been paying me for six months and doesn’t intend to pay, demands to lower the price for it completely free of charge and to the fair remark that the neighbor will steal water, how always has been reproaching me that I will be to blame for this. At the same time, the whole street says that these two are white and fluffy, and I'm oh @ eating a muzzle, a despot and a tyrant, a greedy toad and all serious. But I stubbornly go on negotiations with a neighbor at a price for water and shake my finger at him, you say, don’t do it anymore, it’s not good, not neighborly.
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      You exaggerate this, although there is some truth. But after all, as the people say, it is not necessary to respond to a boorish attitude in a boorish way, therefore the "state department" can blatantly lie, and the "Kiev authorities" provoke the introduction of peacekeeping troops, Russia needs to defend its interests and not go to provocation, in the west a stable opinion is already being formed about the true situation in Ukraine, and at the right time the deployment of Russian peacekeeping troops will be perceived as the only correct and legitimate step.
  33. +2
    16 2014 June
    I’ve read the comments, and I’m thinking that they’ll do the right thing, according to the moment. No one will look at the economic component. As King Frederick the Great said = politics, naked politics = .... As they say, no comment
  34. +2
    16 2014 June
    Andrei Kobolev, the chance to reach a compromise before the start of a new gas day still remains.
    After the provocations organized by the Maidan government ... there is no chance ...
  35. +1
    16 2014 June
    Quote: baitly
    At last!!! Let them blow firewood
    so firewood is also in Siberia :)
  36. +2
    16 2014 June
    something vague doubts torment me: that they might not block the gas, there’s some clue and they will continue to give them gas in anticipation of payments, and during this time they will ramp themselves into gas bins.
  37. +2
    16 2014 June
    some nonsense to compare Ukrainian slate with methane; Well, maybe the shell will rush to the development, but profit is insignificant; it’s another matter to drive us out of the Black Sea and block the Bosphorus, then it will be easier to hang Assad and finally get to Iran’s natural gas (along the way, turn the Syrians into slaves-hierarchy next)
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      Quote: dojjdik
      some nonsense to compare Ukrainian shale with methane; Well, maybe the shell will rush to the development, but profit is insignificant;

      Ivan and who compares where? And with what kind of methane? It is "coalbed methane" that is produced in our Kuzbass, the content is 99,9% of methane. In natural gas, methane can be only 60%, the rest is propane-butane, which is also good, but also bad sulfur and so on. And in oil shale there are usually few harmful impurities.
      But the development technology is that of shale that coal gas is different from the traditional one where the bubble is pierced and that's all, gas under pressure goes. And here it is necessary to create depressions, etc., and much depends on the properties of the reservoir - permeability and gas content. In Ukraine, I don’t know the figures for oil shale, and even without exploratory drilling with coring, they cannot be.
      Therefore, the profit is really insignificant. And Shell is really not stupid - they did not want to go to Kuzbass, although IMHO coal is much better than oil shale. But in Syria, yes, there was found a huge deposit near the coast of the type ...
  38. Ural74
    0
    16 2014 June
    And why bother with them? It is necessary as with our own people (which "owns all the subsoil and natural resources") - they raised prices to the world level and no negotiations, from which, as a result, only the last four letters remain in this word (negotiations). The people, on the other hand, do not grumble and silently eat up the last organ without a vital product.
  39. 0
    16 2014 June
    "I don't understand ..." (from Zadornov)
    Of the 40 billion gas consumption, IMHO, the main share should be in industry, and IMHO's main industry is just Donetsk Lugansk, as well as Kharkov and neighbors. So why does Russia not recognize the LPR and the DPR and conclude a gas supply agreement with them? No need to say that there is essentially no government, etc. - they supplied gas all their lives, pipelines haven’t gone anywhere, how to get it through - specialists will figure it out, people also understand the agreements - what’s the problem, I don’t understand :(
  40. 0
    16 2014 June
    I have an idea! From tomorrow I stop paying gas receipts. When a debt of 2 billion rubles accumulates behind me, I will ask Gazprom for a discount.
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      So this is enough time for the great-grandchildren to accumulate such a little bag)))
    2. 0
      16 2014 June
      So this is enough time for the great-grandchildren to accumulate such a little bag)))
    3. Ural74
      0
      16 2014 June
      Great offer. No matter how people seize the initiative. Well done!
  41. 0
    16 2014 June
    There will be no gas overlap, what kind of gas ... how will it look for adventures on its ass, the Ukrainian debt for gas seeds compared to the payment of a forfeit for deliveries to Europe, as they drove the gas, they will drive and dill know about it, and therefore become impudent.
  42. 0
    16 2014 June
    Remember, just recently there was an opinion that the junta would burst in a couple of months, and God forbid that it be so. And gas is supplied under a long-term contract. So they tried to agree by postponing the "valve hour".
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      "Gazprom introduced a prepayment regime for gas for Ukraine"
      RIA Novosti15 minutes ago, 10:05
  43. 0
    16 2014 June
    What are the gas prices? We are declared war! It is necessary to bomb Ukraine!
  44. yulka2980
    0
    16 2014 June
    Tired of already looking at the rather dull face of Sold and sour Miller! It's time to act finally! am
  45. 0
    16 2014 June
    Politics is politics, but so far everything is done under the dictation of the United States: silent stormtroopers fly into our airspace, smash the embassy again mumble and never go into any gates when they roam around our territory on armored vehicles, well, where is the adequate answer or in the Kremlin waiting for the Ukrainians to "by mistake" fire on our territory from "Grad". Why were our troops removed from the border to please the West, living 40 km from the "Square" I have the right to this question? not a single "impudent" would not only aim a gun at our border guards, but would instantly raise his hands or burn out in his iron! Apparently the Guarantor can no longer guarantee us security (of course, the interests of the United States and the West are more important than its citizens). things of the Lord rulers? (most likely, based on recent events, the people will not forgive betrayal)
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      Ну
      1. The troops on the spot, and moreover, conduct exercises nearby. And the fact that some part was taken away there, so why a lot of concentration at the border, if there is no combat-ready enemy behind it (the dances of ukrov around Slavyansk clearly confirm this).
      2. The obligation of the Guarantor is to ensure the safety of citizens of the Russian Federation. Or are they already bombing Rostov or the same Crimea? Officially, citizens of the Russian Federation are on the other side of the border - no. What is hysteria then?
      3. About "packing things for managers": The first people who need to pack things and get out of Russia are hysterics, alarmists and people who are simply dim-witted (although the latter is "treated" by reading books) ...
  46. 0
    16 2014 June
    We can stop negotiations already, it’s time to tighten the cogs or to wind some eggs.
  47. +1
    16 2014 June
    Why do they meet at night? Maybe because the United States, where the day is at this time, participates? There is a feeling that the gas deal that has gotten sluggish is distracting from the sad events of the Southeast.
  48. pinecone
    0
    16 2014 June
    I can’t get rid of the feeling that Ukrainians are either advising to make their position irreconcilable on all these issues, or it’s dizzy with success
    Sergey Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister


    The fact that the present rulers of Kiev are under the hood of their Western "partners" is undoubtedly, but the cited comrade. Lavrov's Stalinist quote does not seem entirely appropriate.
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      Comrade Lavrov has already expressed in plain text today that "such greyhound behavior is explained by the support of our Western partners, or part of them" ...
  49. 0
    16 2014 June
    On the one hand, this lisping with the junta against the background of what is happening in Novorossiya has already bothered, and on the other hand, if you think about it, these fiddling with dill for Russia and Gazprom, in particular, into the hands, i.e. Thus, the "bloody kegebists and co" even the most stubborn in the EU showed that it is impossible to come to an agreement with the current dill, and those (Ukrainians) have already become so rude that they have seen the EU itself (as Lavrov recently stated in plain text). I don’t understand only one thing, the junta really doesn’t understand the obvious, that with their already frank greyhound, they drive themselves further and further into a corner in front of Europe, or, nevertheless, because of a puddle, “to hold out to the maximum, and there the grass will not grow” Have you bought houses in California?
  50. 0
    16 2014 June
    Yatsenyuk assured that Ukraine is "reliable transit", And she will always faithfully fulfill her gas obligations to other countries. Thus, according to and. about. Prime Minister, there is no need to build a pipe bypassing Ukraine

    A little earlier, they tore a shirt on the belly, like "I will be a bastard ...". I think the sooner the "latch" is closed, the faster Europa will see clearly. And there the European Parliament will begin to work in a new composition. So we will see what this "grandmother-stribunets" will sing for the winter.

    © A.A. Prisyajnyuk, relocation, 2003
    BABA TA MURUVEL
    Zhvava Babka-Stribunets,
    Krasne lito;
    Looked ... Bah! Nabala -
    See Zimi Vikhorets.
    Victim, naked in the field
    It’s a little dumb,
    Yak pid leaf be-yakim
    Buv ready style and dim.
    Everything passed: winter is cold
    I will bring twist to hunger;
    Babtsі vzhe spіvati evil:
    In the midst of a decline,
    Schob spivati, I’m hungry!
    Driven by grief and sum,
    Go to Muravl won:
    “Don’t leave me, cum of miles!
    Give me your strength -
    Y until spring leash, my love,
    Walk around and obigrіy! ”
    “Kumtsyu, miraculously schodi something:
    Chi ty pracjuvala in lito? ” -
    Muravel її having spit.
    “Chi, before that, kumtsu, bulo!
    In the marines we have
    Wasteland, every hour,
    So she threw her head. ” -
    “Ah, so ...” - “I am without bidi
    Litso prosileva ”. -
    “Did you sleep?” Good dbala -
    That is the same dance! ”

  51. 0
    16 2014 June
    MOSCOW, June 16 - RIA Novosti. From 10.00 Moscow time on Monday, Gazprom introduced a prepayment regime for gas supplies for Naftogaz of Ukraine, the Russian holding said in a statement.

    "The decision was made due to the chronic non-payments of Naftogaz of Ukraine. The company's overdue debt for the supplied Russian gas is $ 4,458 billion: $ 1,451 billion in November-December 2013 and $ 3,007 billion in April-May 2014," message.

    No payments were received on the preliminary invoice for June either. From today, the Ukrainian company receives Russian gas only in the paid volumes.
  52. Leprechaun
    0
    16 2014 June
    Quote: Egoza
    There they have somehow figured out a scheme through the Nord Stream to Germany, and there, it seems, they will be "transported" further from Germany. Somewhere there was infa, but it is necessary to search more precisely.
    This is during normal periods, but during the heating period problems immediately arise, and as I understand it, Ukrainian gas storage facilities serve precisely for the uninterrupted supply of gas to Europe in the winter, and until South Stream is built, the situation will not change.
  53. 0
    16 2014 June
    "...or it's dizziness from success"
    What success?
  54. +1
    16 2014 June
    We are hostages of these pipes that run along the square, and until we launch a bypass, nothing can be done about it. And the bypass began to be blocked “politically.”
    If they really cut it off, the Ukrainians will remain with our gas and will not pay for it.
  55. kelevra
    0
    16 2014 June
    These f...ly mu...s have gone completely crazy! They stated that they will take our gas for free, as much as they want, until we accept their conditions! We need to completely cut off the gas to them forever, and take away our pipes so that they don’t hand them over to scrap metal!

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