How do you call a boat, so it will sail

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How do you call a boat, so it will sail


Good day! Since 2008, I began to actively observe what is happening in the world: at that time I was worried about Ossetians and Abkhazians, I read the articles about the problems of the Nagorno-Karabakh and Transnistrian-Moldavian republics. Carefully tried to treat a variety of messages from different points of the world. I tried to understand how and what works in this world and influences geopolitics.

I am not a fan of writing articles, although I work in the press. But I have an opinion that I want to share.

"Rats must go"

In the winter of 2011, riots began in some Arab countries, in the spring they reached Syria and Libya. The opposing sides immediately begin to brand each other and hang tags. Muammar Gaddafi and Bashar Assad were declared "bloody dictators". Their opponents of the West called the "opposition" and "rebels". So, these labels create public opinion.

I am very cautious in terms of people, and called the enemies of Libya "armed opposition", later "rats", as they called them in the Jamahiriya itself. By the way, our media also called them the opposition, but in Syria it was all of a sudden militants and terrorists. Long was the transition in the minds of our media ...

So, the way I called opponents of the authorities of Libya, influenced my environment. From the very beginning, I supported Gaddafi, but few supported me. The media did not become softer, but with the tightening of my position, my acquaintances around me became more and more negative towards the so-called “revolution”.

"As you call a boat, it will float"

Now there is a lot of talk about how to call militias in Ukraine - rebels, the liberation army, terrorists, militants, combatants ... But at the same time, we forget how to call those who oppose them.

Notice-with the beginning of the pogroms on Independence, all the chorus called the guys with "Molotov cocktails" fascists and Bandera. What now? And now it is becoming more and more popular - dill, ukroarmiya, etc. And the concepts get in the way, people become equally negative to everything Ukrainian.

And this is fundamentally wrong! We need to separate cutlets (Ukrainian people, fraternal to us) and flies (Galicia, zapadentsev, Bandera, fascists, outcasts, paid by the West marionettes and other riffraff)! By pouring out a lot of negativity on ukroarmiya (which almost does not fight), we turn it against ourselves. There is a powerful information war, and in her time, whatever we may say and no matter how we comment on the articles, we must understand that everything is not so obvious, especially in Ukraine, and even more so by the Ukrainians themselves with the media washing the brain! If you scold someone, sort things out from the beginning, whom you scold, and call them by their proper names! Otherwise, with all the talk about the "dill" we will lose the whole of Ukraine!

Call a spade a spade!
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  1. portoc65
    +27
    16 2014 June
    UKROPIA is a beautiful name for the so-called country. Ukraine is the name of a Nazi country .. In general, the so-called Ukraine is not a country but a land .. notice the historical Russian land and the native Russians of this land winked
    1. +6
      16 2014 June
      Quote: portoc65
      UKROPIA is a beautiful name for the so-called country of Ukraine ..

      if they are all good and the zapadents are bad so why is Russia bad for all of them? and even their relatives are tenacious here are bad. you’re bad, only the money went and then I damn it. until they themselves decide and remember who they are dill. excuse me. I have a lot of Ukrainians acquaintances here. but for example, I can hardly imagine how my daughter can go here to work from Lviv to curse and immediately demand money
      1. +3
        16 2014 June
        Hmm ... NATIONALISM as a symbol of DEGENERATION !!! SYMPTOMS ARE ALREADY VISIBLE ... !!!
    2. +15
      16 2014 June
      Controversial article ... As the author of publications on the blurring of the Russian ethnos in the South-East of Ukraine, I want to add from myself that:

      Notice-with the beginning of the pogroms on Independence, all the chorus called the guys with "Molotov cocktails" fascists and Bandera. What now? And now it is becoming more and more popular - dill, ukroarmiya, etc. And the concepts get in the way, people become equally negative to everything Ukrainian.


      This is an objective and natural process since 1991. The author is of the opinion that the Maidan and its 30 active fanatics have crushed the peaceful and friendly-minded Ukraine towards Russia. In fact, everything has been simplified to: Russian (quilted jacket, scoop, b) you or Ukrainian (Bandera, dill, crest) .Ukraine is not Russia! forgot who wrote the book? Yes, there is of course a place for wordplay. But the meaning does not change, where it is calm in Ukraine, Russophobic thinking dominates, even if it is a Russian-speaking region, where the "Russian spirit" lives, there is resistance.

      And on account of this:

      Otherwise, with all the rantings about "dill" we will lose all of Ukraine!


      So the child was splashed out with water even after 2004 of the year ...

      Maybe it's time to find the courage and admit that there is a Russian people, and there is a project "Ukraine"? It's like agreeing not to call someone who just smokes weed all the time. He's kind of moderate and will never switch to hard drugs. But those who use heroin are drug addicts and should be branded. Where do they come from? Probably out of thin air? Or maybe because they are not satisfied with the easy version of the difference from a normal person? (read slight distinction from Russian culture)
      1. +5
        16 2014 June
        I support with both hands. The question of ethnic groups is important, but now the question is in the idea. I am not Russian at all, but I am part of the Russian world
        1. +6
          16 2014 June
          Quote: cyberhanter
          I support with both hands. The question of ethnic groups is important, but now the question is in the idea. I am not Russian at all, but I am part of the Russian world


          The answer is that the Russian ethnos is secondary, "the Russian world is primary." If we return Russkiy Mir, then we will also bring back ethnic Russians, who today consider themselves Ukrainians, despite their Russian surname and Russian language. The Russians, the Russians, who for some reason moved to Ukraine in the 2000s for permanent residence, were especially successful. They are often on the side of the maydanutyh. Among my circle of acquaintances, one woman from Saransk, moved here to Ukraine in 1999. Ardent Maidanutaya, Another from St. Petersburg, arrived in 2005 - a moderate Maidanutaya, right now tends to neutrality. Why are they currying favor? Life didn't work out in Russia? Okay, my generation, which in 1991 met Ukraine, and which led them from the school desk and zombified them. But what about these? There were reports that there are even Russians who in Ukraine receive a pension from the Russian Federation, and they themselves are for the maydanuts. Scribe. This is a question for all Russians in Russia. Probably because there is no ideology ... more precisely, there is an ideology of consumption. Receiving a pension from Russia, here you can almost glamor in Ukraine ... By the way, some Europeans and Americans in Eastern Europe suffer from this, who spend their old age in poor countries, due to the difference in course and living standards. In Germany, he is an ordinary pensioner who can fly to Egypt once a year, where a shark will snatch him in the Red Sea, and in Bulgaria, he is a king !!! Once I often saw an elderly American in a fast food establishment in Berdyansk, as the waitress explained to me, he stupidly lives here on payments from the United States. I served good tea for them, for the local natives.
          1. +4
            16 2014 June
            plus, but for the return of the urkintsev in the bosom of the Russian world - for the beginning it is necessary to break the junta, and for this we need to let people understand that we are against the junta and she is sipped
            1. +4
              16 2014 June
              Quote: cyberhanter
              plus, but for the return of the urkintsev in the bosom of the Russian world - for the beginning it is necessary to break the junta, and for this we need to let people understand that we are against the junta and she is sipped


              I agree. But it is very difficult to do this and everything will come down to history as always. Another attempt by Russia to seize Ukraine in the guise of protecting the Russians and fighting the junta. Stun the media and education?

              I come to the conclusion that it's time for Russian people in spirit in Russia to give birth to three children in a family at least in order to make up for the human losses of the "Russian World" in Ukraine + the reception of immigrants.
              1. BYV
                +3
                16 2014 June
                Only Ukrainians themselves can break the Ukrainians. Therefore, the only way out is to overthrow the junta by militia forces.
              2. +3
                16 2014 June
                Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                I come to the conclusion that it's time for Russian people in spirit in Russia to give birth to three children in a family at least in order to make up for the human losses of the "Russian World" in Ukraine + the reception of immigrants.

                This has to be done for a long time, and not only to make up for the human losses of the "Russian World" in Ukraine, but simply so that there are more of us, not less, so that we are stronger. I have four.
          2. +4
            16 2014 June
            Well said.
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            Interview with 17-year-old representative of the "Right Sector"
            17-year-old Dmitry from the "Right Sector" was interviewed by Alexei Ivakin, a resident of Odessa and the author of "Samizdat" (there is such a section in the Moshkov library). Interviewee is a food college student. Most likely, the student is a former: the young man is sure that he has already been expelled for absenteeism. However, on this score he has a plan: "Nothing, I will come, and with the machine will recover automatically."

            In the biography of Dmitriy, “euromaidan” and “hundred” are firmly stuck: Then they organized themselves into the Right Sector. He returned to Odessa in early March, they began to create a hundred here. ”

            The boy has a somewhat unusual look at the territorial-administrative structure of some countries and even continents. A former foodstuffs student opposes federalization, because "this is separatism." The examples of Germany, USA, Russia, Switzerland are not inspired by the boy. “Yes, no, what kind of federation ... I do not want the border between Odessa and Kiev to be, with customs there, visas ...” - “Wait, there is no customs between Arizona and Nevada. Between Bavaria and Westphalia too. ” “So it’s not a federation.” - “What is a federation?” - “Well, this is ... Well, as in Africa, their states are everywhere”. - “Africa is a federation?” - “Probably ...”

            Dmitry calls Russia “parashka-rashka”, but at the same time declares: “In Odessa, everyone is Russian” and says: “b is the one who is the enemy of Ukraine”. Name-calling "b" in a teenager’s speech is synonymous with the concept of "separatist". Here is his ideology in his own words: "I am a patriot and must defend my country from Putin's fascists." (“Fascists” have those who “occupied” Crimea.) As for Kiev, “traitors” rule there. The boy attributes himself and his kind to the category of "sane people." But those who go to referenda-they are "Putin's slaves." In short, as the interviewer remarked to the young man, "free are those who think like you." By the way, the teenager promises to kill the interviewer himself, but not now, but later: "When the time comes."

            On this preface declare over. The editors took the trouble to accompany the interview with several introductory paragraphs in order that some idle censor would not resent the satirical conversation of an enlightened person with a representative of the Right Sector, who has an original view of fascism and declaring Africa a federation.
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      2. 0
        16 2014 June
        Hi Slav hi As a local and pretty young you can see a lot. I am glad that you did not succumb to such sleeping pills as "Glory to Ukraine", etc., you know better than me from Siberia.
    3. DNX1970
      +4
      16 2014 June
      Dill-Ukrainian opposition. Nothing offensive. A banderlog (hto not jump ....) just a diagnosis, moreover ....
      1. avt
        +3
        16 2014 June
        Quote: DNX1970
        Dill-Ukrainian opposition

        request Why blame the mirror if the face is crooked! ??? I understand that the Ukrainians are offended, but did we in Russia conduct research about the ancient, great people of ykrov, and even in schools they taught about it in Ukraine, diligently rejecting our common thing - in Ukraine, like an imperial belch ???? Well, as it was rightly noted, the oppositionists of the Maydauns are dill. What, what, and here, well, for sure - "as you name the boat, so it will float."
    4. +1
      16 2014 June
      Quote: portoc65
      DROP

      It's time to send a million free T-shirts to Kiev.
      The natives were taken in beads, and the Maidan people - in the manufacture!
    5. +1
      16 2014 June
      Quote: portoc65
      UKROPIA is a beautiful name for the so-called country. Ukraine is the name of a Nazi country .. In general, the so-called Ukraine is not a country but a land .. notice the historical Russian land and the native Russians of this land winked


      Right.
      "As you name the yacht, so it will float"
      Based on the title of the article, I dare to suggest that having named their country UKRAINE, its inhabitants voluntarily chose the outskirts - the sidelines of life. Having renounced the title "RUSSIAN", they themselves chose their own complete oblivion.
  2. rhd
    +4
    16 2014 June
    100%!!! Without analysis, all with one stigma, it’s impossible! It’s impossible by the saying: They cut the wood, the chips fly !!! This is understandable to everyone except the chips (people) that are not guilty of anything !!! The forest must be cut-with MIND!
    1. Nikita_Pilot
      +5
      16 2014 June
      When the battle begins there nobody will sort anyone.
  3. +4
    16 2014 June
    In principle, you are right. There is a substitution of concepts.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      Quote: Nekarmadlen
      There is a substitution of concepts.

      And this must be urgently stopped somehow !!!
  4. Vtel
    +2
    16 2014 June
    We need to share cutlets (Ukrainian people, brotherly to us)


    The Ukrainian people - this is the same Russian people only on the edge - the abyss, right now, but dill is called those who have no Russian spirit inside after the Jewish-Masonic-Bandera leaching.
    1. +2
      16 2014 June
      I understand what you mean, and the people of Ukraine often do not understand. That’s the point, you need to call so that it is clear not to us, but to everyone
  5. +26
    16 2014 June
    I call a spade a spade.
    1. The Ukrainian army completely discredited itself by shooting at its people. The oath was exchanged for American money.
    2. The President of Ukraine is the US Ambassador. Poroshenko - the executor of his will, just a puppet.
    3. I don’t know all the moods in Ukraine, but all my former friends and colleagues consider Russia and me to be sworn enemies.
    4. The country has almost become a US colony.
    5. State independence has been lost.
    6. International agreements and contracts are not implemented.
    And are these fraternal people?
    1. portoc65
      +3
      16 2014 June
      Ukraine is not a brotherly people - Ukraine is one Slavic people .. just a part of the Slavic world was torn off by a busurman 500 years ago .. This part is like a cancer tumor .. you just need an operation to remove it what
      1. +1
        16 2014 June
        History is good, but now the inhabitants of Ukraine are called Ukrainians - this is a FACT. And also the fact that the majority of the inhabitants of Ukraine are Slavs and ours are taken .. even mine - although I am a purebred Komi. Take in spirit
        1. 0
          16 2014 June
          They are not brothers to me ...
        2. +1
          16 2014 June
          Quote: cyberhanter
          Residents of Ukraine are called Ukrainians - this is a FACT.

          Yes, this is not a fact. Many, many, even recorded by Ukrainians, do not separate themselves and do not distinguish them from Russians. And many of those who clearly consider themselves Ukrainians are sympathetic towards Russia.
          And the current surge in Ukrainian significance is the result of propaganda. Only the lazy in the West did not deal with all kinds of NGOs in Ukraine, which to a large extent led to the current situation. But Russia did not support organizations oriented toward Russia, and simply overslept the situation. It is necessary that this situation serves as a lesson for us, and we will never again make such mistakes. If Russia positions itself as the leader of the Russian World, then it should be this leader.
          And finally, it is necessary to remove the current ambassador from Kiev - first recall, but there are reasons for this, and then replace it. Zurabov clearly does not take his place.
        3. Djein9
          0
          17 2014 June
          Quote: cyberhanter
          if they are all good and the zapadents are bad, why is Russia bad for all of them for them? ... and even tenacious relatives here are bad ...
          YOU ARE BAD ..., ONLY MONEY WAS, or else I will damn.


          Quote: cyberhanter
          the fact that most of the inhabitants of Ukraine are Slavs and our brothers .. even mine — although I am a purebred Komi. In spirit, brothers ...


          ... NOT A FACT ... (judging by what they do in Ukraine and what they DIDN’T DO ... IF you were right ...) you write as you, .. We .. want to take them. .... And they ...
          ... You can not engage in self-deception towards them ... and take what they wish for reality ...
          ... This is fraught with terrible consequences ... Any NORMAL MAN living in Ukraine, regardless of nationality, understands that what happens to them is not acceptable for a NORMAL person, they are more fascized by what is happening ...
          ... How ... WE ... DID NOT DONE ANYTHING during the collapse of the USSR ..., watched on TV, and again did nothing ...., to the execution of the White House ..., to our "CRUFF" what was happening in the 90s ..., they did nothing to stop, "ACTIVITY" ... TRAITORS of their country ... marked and fight ...., and they looked on TV at their Maidan and. . NOTHING ... didn’t do to stop ON TIME .. their events .. How are we different from them ... ??? (CONDEMNING them at the same time) ... WE ARE LUCKY ... We DO NOT UNDERSTAND how we slipped through the nineties and we came VERY LUCKY ... PUTIN .... (and it could be any "our" Poroshenko ..., not everyone else got it ...) I hope (after another disappointment, GOD DON'T GIVE ... hope and faith in who will no longer be) ...
          ... that ... V.V. PUTIN ... WILL INTERRUPT the series of "our" rulers-idiots ..., will do everything in the PROPER way and will remain in the HISTORY and MINDS of the Russians and the whole world ... AN ORDER, DECENT PERSON ... and as an EXAMPLE to all other managers .... and ... WE ... (not on TV) but at HIS FIRST REQUEST we need to SUPPORT HIM with all the forces we have, considering HOW MANY of them .., those .. who took up arms against him and all of us ...
          ..IM (Ukrainians) were unlucky as we were, and the list of their freaks - rulers continued ... with all the ensuing and logical consequences ...
          Unfortunately, we don’t know much (although everyone is trying to somehow understand the situation to the best of their very limited abilities) .. how really happened, for example, the current situation in the east of Ukraine ... (if it weren’t ..., everything would be perceived differently ...) I hope everything will be solved in the best way in the near future ...
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    2. +1
      16 2014 June
      1. Does the entire Ukrainian army take part in ATO? How many can you personally list the fighters who took part in it? Do you know for sure that they are deliberately destroying civilians or are they fighting with the "FSB"?
      .......
      and in the same vein. you have to be firm, but not row all under one comb. People who do not have the truth make the wrong decisions, they do not cease to be villains from this. And everyone can be mistaken, even so bitterly ... There are brotherly people. I Know, I have relatives in Uraine and in the West including
      1. jjj
        +3
        16 2014 June
        Got under the fascist banners - means a fascist. Everything else no longer matters. Only the length of the coffin
        1. 0
          16 2014 June
          That's it. Fascist banner - for example, UNA UNSO. And if a person is 19 years old, he was born in Ukraine and stood under the Ukrainian banners? And why is it "agents of the Kremlin" and saves the homeland?
      2. +3
        16 2014 June
        Author Anton "cyberhanter" Nikonov
        Don't "rip the car". You are partly right, but the point is not in the name of the "yacht", but in the fact that this yacht is "sinking" ... And those who survived will remember this time with horror. In civil wars are not right, there are only winners. And the Strelok did not begin it, although he did not do everything possible, and he is not a politician. Politicians decided to play with people. Now it’s scary that there are people who are ready to send for murder and ready to kill.

        The survivors will deal with the terminology.
        1. +1
          16 2014 June
          one hundred percent right
  6. +3
    16 2014 June
    Yes, somehow, anyway, how dill will call their Outskirts. I like the name NOVOROSSIA more!
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      Quote: MAIGOR
      how dill will call their outskirts

      Ukropostan.
  7. +1
    16 2014 June
    This is what a "split" is needed now - the vortex is spinning more and more every day!
  8. +2
    16 2014 June
    It is impossible to lose what is not. An army is an army and fulfills the tasks of the junta. I will fully support the author if ukroarmiya turns bayonets against the Nazis. What else to call murderers, provocateurs, opportunists? Those who shell their own cities? Destroys people on the basis of language, nationality? Who is the backbone of the fascist regime on the money of enemies? Not fighting full force? From laziness and stupidity, multiplied by fear and nothing more. We call dill because swearing is not according to the rules of the site. If such sayings about TRAITORS appear, only from a situation when the "army" is not capable of fighting and is trying to evoke pity in front of BIG ZVIZDULY. It took a long time - sooner or later you will have to answer for everything.
  9. portoc65
    +3
    16 2014 June
    VICTORY WILL BE OURS!
  10. +5
    16 2014 June
    Yes! The truth is there! Sometimes I myself don’t immediately understand who the author is talking about! And sometimes I myself sin with this! We must put everything in its place!
  11. +2
    16 2014 June
    That's how it is, but somehow 99% "(Ukrainian people, brotherly to us)" allowed and continue to allow (except for the southeast naturally) the remaining miserable 1% "(Galicia, zapadentsev, Bandera, fascists, marginals, puppets paid for by the West and other riffraff)" create black and drive a wedge between us more and more. Or maybe "(Ukrainian people, brotherly to us)" there are already much less "(Galicia, zapadentsev, Bandera, fascists, marginals, puppets paid for by the West and other riffraff)" already have Ukrainian people ??? And those who remained are still eyeing: whose side is it more profitable for them to take?
    1. +6
      16 2014 June
      And why 100% allowed us to break up the Soviet Union? propaganda. competent propaganda. and fear for their children or something else. not everyone is decisive. if you are so decisive, why not at the front? have something to lose? same thing
      1. +2
        16 2014 June
        Quote: cyberhanter
        And why 100% allowed us to break up the Soviet Union?
        The question is certainly interesting, but not at the address, I was a kid then.
        Quote: cyberhanter
        if you are so decisive

        I live in the Kuban, so soon the wrong and get up.
        Quote: cyberhanter
        have something to lose?

        I have one. That is why I intend to defend my home with weapons. Moreover, we are one of the first to meet them, they seem to have views of the Kuban. But to risk his own skin (on which, by the way, a family with a lollipop hangs) for the sake of a brotherly but still Ukrainian people who themselves do not really move their horn ... hardly.
        1. 0
          16 2014 June
          Well, that means well done. But most cannot like you. Most are afraid. Revolutions are always created by less than one percent of the population. And do not just blame them, we need to help them stand up against the junta
      2. Djein9
        0
        17 2014 June
        [quote = cyberhanter] And why 100% allowed us to break up the Soviet Union? ...
        ... The question was posed very correct, but the answer is completely ... your personal ...,
        and kantsovka is generally not fair in relation to Fkenschen13 ....
        ... I live in the same state as you, but no propaganda will force me, and anyone who has REASON to succumb to it ... and take black for white ....
        ... Everyone wants to live well and secure ... The difference, which is a litmus test
        .., the MAN you or NON-PEOPLE is that for the MAN ... THE IMPORTANT ... that, after ANY acquisitions, he would remain a HUMAN, rather than CONSIDERING himself as such ...
        .. Any situation has a RED crossover which the one who did it turns into MRPAZZ ... and not because someone thinks or calls it that way, but according to the CONJECTED ... that he after that I didn’t think about myself ..
        ... The definition of "B_Y_D_L_O" is not liked primarily by those who are ...
        No matter how someone tries to mislead what is happening in our country and throughout the world will depend on their REAL number in states ... and it is useless to blame everything on a committee of three hundred and other non-humans .... They exist only because of this BEING .... How everything will go further and give an answer
        who more ... how sad it is ...
  12. +4
    16 2014 June
    In this case, white is white, and black is black ... And do not be shy, but it is better to ask parents how they raised their children, because everyone who is now 40 ... 60 years old, fathers and grandfathers fought in World War II.
    1. +2
      16 2014 June
      Only correctly explain where it is white and black - our task. For example, Ukrainians are not black, but what is driving them now is yes
  13. +8
    16 2014 June
    Alexey Chaly said in one phrase:
    Our brothers in the DNI and LC. And slops do not interest us!

    Briefly and clearly!
    1. +4
      16 2014 June
      What do you call the slops of the victims in Odessa in the house of trade unions? They are not from the DNI and LC!
      1. +2
        16 2014 June
        I agree. You can’t divide everything into black and white. If you recall the history of Russia, you can find moments when it is impossible to speak unequivocally about Russian people. For example: Civil War white and red.
        1. Djein9
          0
          17 2014 June
          [quote = Mama_Cholli] I agree. You can’t divide everything into black and white. If you recall the history of Russia, you can find moments when it is impossible to speak unequivocally about Russian people. For example: Civil war white and red ...

          ... A disgusting comparison ...
          ..RED (not the scum that clung to them .., by the way how much it is, scum was a REASONABLE person according to what happened next) .. GOOD, REAL people fought for ... JUST life, and not against anyone .. The enemies were not whites but all, I will not list ... whom JUSTICE did not suit in anything ... because they are its opposite ...
          For whom WHITE fought and against whom ... ???
          For the king, tsarism which in any country just bears this same injustice
          ... For the Fatherland ... Have mercy ... I do not know whose protege V.I. Lenin ... but the Germans did not help the Reds for JUSTICE to fight .... but did YOU forget ...
          . WHO .. (how many assistants came in large numbers ...) helped the whites to fight for the "fatherland" ... ???
          Have respect for the truth ... If in the end there turned out to be more of those who subsequently perverted and replaced the struggle for JUSTICE with their personal interests, ANY price and only MYSELF ..... PEOPLE who shed blood for a JUSTICE life were sincere in their desire ...
          By the way, those who betrayed them now sing in chorus that JUSTICE happens only in fairy tales ..., (they themselves are NOT ABLE at it, so it cannot be ...)
          ... They settled down very well, which is very logical for those who are P_O_D_L_E_TS_A_M_I .... Now their followers are very successfully struggling with the same aspiration of narmal people for JUSTICE (I don’t know what color they are ... oh yes .. Crap ... YOU) again proving with its content about where it (justice) can be ..... So everything that happens and the possible future, whether you want to or not, will have to be considered given their presence and quantity ....
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  14. +1
    16 2014 June
    Junta and punishers. Of course, we are far from their level in definitions. But you can look at the censor. Mongoloid Chukhonts are the most harmless. "Parsley is the president of dill" is a fact. So it is more likely not to offend or humiliate colleagues, but to make a diagnosis. For a paranoid (a schizophrenic, a patient with cretinism, Down syndrome, etc.) does not mean an insult! And many people in Ukraine are sick! And here you can only heal or ...
    1. +3
      16 2014 June
      Suggest to be like? It is precisely because Russia does not become like Europe, struggles for values, does not pursue a policy that is liberal towards sexual minorities, and many are oriented towards it in the West. You cannot be like enemies, simply because they are enemies. It is necessary to soak the enemy in the toilet with their weapons. The Russian warrior was always better educated and was more fair!
  15. +7
    16 2014 June
    In one I can agree: In every war, a propaganda war is fought, whether we want it or not. It is simply being conducted in the interests of a certain group of individuals. I remember during the first Chechen war, almost all the Russian mass media, when covering its events, raised a howl regarding the actions of the Russian army. Oh, how these poor military men were not called. It all ended when, in my opinion, Vyacheslav Kostikov (I can be mistaken) wrote an angry article addressed to our scribes. One question was asked: Guys, and you, in fact, are the Russians yourself?
    The fact that the author of this article asks to separate the west and east of Ukraine is fundamentally wrong. I am deeply convinced that there are people in the West against the war and in the East for it. And the name "dill" rather characterizes the state of society in Ukraine. Like this greenery, many simply took a wait-and-see attitude on the principle of "come what may, if only it did not affect me personally." So this is not a label, but a statement of fact.
    1. +3
      16 2014 June
      I support you. I do not want to separate the west and the east, I want to separate the Nazis from normal people. In this case, nationalists and fascists are mainly representatives of western Ukraine. Maybe he himself was not the best in terms, but our brothers live all over Ukraine and sharing it is already a defeat
    2. +1
      16 2014 June
      Very true noticed.
  16. +15
    16 2014 June
    My grandfather liberated Western Ukraine in 44. The Order of the Red Star for stopping the retreating fighters, organized and repelled several attacks. Later I found this award list on the "heroes of the country". I often asked him to tell about the war. Something was forgotten. , something got lost over time. Only his stories about the atrocities of the Bandera in my childhood memory remained forever. He, a reserved person, was not so worried when he talked about this memory. With age, I understood what the word "Bandera" means - cruelty and cowardice, hatred and animal instincts, lack of pity and willingness to betray. Yes, and they have no nationality, just a Bandera and that's it. That's for sure a conversation with them will not work - one order: do not spare patrons! Sorry for the emotionality.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      With those who shoot women and children, definitely ...
      Here the question is wider. Are all Ukrainians enemies to us, because Ukrainians ...
    2. +1
      16 2014 June
      I agree with you, they do not have one nationality - banderlog
  17. +3
    16 2014 June
    Yes, the author is a little cheating. Dill is an abbreviation of Ukrainian Critically Foiled Patriot. Or any other. Not all dill is Bandera. So the concept of dill is more correct. Only part of the dill - Bandera. And not all Ukrainians are dill, and especially not Bandera. So I do not agree with the author. It is necessary to introduce new definitions based on the real situation. What are you talking about Russians? Natsik? Bandera? Ukrainians? It takes root - dill. Good name. Nice and harmless.
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      I know that, and you and most of the people who sit here know it. And how does the majority perceive? Not as an abbreviation, but as an insult to Ukrainians.
      1. dmb
        +2
        16 2014 June
        And how, in this case, our "critically duped patriots to call". A striking example is the photo with "wings" posted below. The gentleman who placed it, in my opinion, is absolutely identical to those whom he also calls "dill". Otherwise, he would have given at least some reason for his statement.
        1. +1
          16 2014 June
          and call apparently. and prove to them that they are wrong. it's complicated, but the information background is an important thing. It is necessary to create conditions for them in the information field to understand that they are waiting in fraternal hands and will not give offense.
  18. Alexandr 2
    +2
    16 2014 June
    The Ukrainian junta has committed so many crimes that it’s enough to talk about their atrocities in the media.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      So it is the junta that must be blamed and it is the okhunta that must be written. In my office, when something happens, they say "Ukrainians". and such names as "dill" are transitional. I'm sure! In support of my words - see the first comment
      1. typhoon7
        0
        16 2014 June
        Those who now steers in Kiev are not Ukrainians, either by mentality or by ethnicity, they are already beginning to blame Orthodoxy. They are pawns, this west is fighting against everything Russian and Russian.
    2. +1
      16 2014 June
      These (the junta) must be judged, and the Ukrainians themselves must do it. And if they have a "tower" left, then it cries for them.
  19. +3
    16 2014 June
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    where it is calm in Ukraine, Russophobic thinking dominates, even if it is a Russian-speaking region, where the "Russian spirit" lives, there is resistance.

    In Transcarpathia, too, it’s calm, there are only two languages: Hungarian and Russian. There are no philosophists there, quite the contrary.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      Well, if so. But again, you can’t speak for everyone. No one will prevent a person from expressing his opinion, taking and going for example to the Maidan. So there are marginals everywhere. sad
  20. Alexander I
    +3
    16 2014 June
    Yes Dill (Ukrainian on position) This is not true. They should be called Banderlog. It suits them completely.
    1. Saturn43
      0
      16 2014 June
      Banderlogs are Galician they are ardent Russophobes and Russophobes dill moderate so to speak
  21. +5
    16 2014 June
    For several decades, a rejection of everything Russian was cultivated in Ukrainians. Even electric shavers they sent here not "Kharkov", but "Kharkiv", even in such trifles. An artificially created country slapped out of pieces with overwhelming snobbery and Russophobia, moreover, with an extremely low industrial and technical culture.
  22. StepanovTDSM
    +2
    16 2014 June
    There are two sides to the front, the barricades. As if we did not call them the warring parties.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      But at the same time, among those who, willingly or not, are fighting for the Kiev junta, there are those who, with the help of these labels (like "kurops"), we will never drag to our side
  23. portoc65
    +1
    16 2014 June
    ANGEL KEEPER OF NEW RUSSIA soldier
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      sprono but hope so
  24. +2
    16 2014 June
    The article is correct. Finally, I saw that my opinion is not alone .....
    Gadov Ukraine minuscule. The rest are stupefied and sober, and sober to this day.
    It’s sober and bitter to read the opinions on this form, where ALL Ukrainians, one size fits all, are considered "Dill".
    Maybe Bandera sneaked into the forum and foment enmity between our peoples ???? ....
    1. Djein9
      0
      17 2014 June
      [quote = CAMLS] That is sober and bitter to this day to read opinions on this form, where ALL Ukrainians one size fits all are considered "Dill" ...

      ... Be consistent .... Keep "sober to this day" for idiots ... They perfectly understand who is dill and who THEY are ... Nobody calls ALL dill ... This applies only to dill and everything (except you. . ???) understand who they mean ...
      But you endow other "lost sheep" with opportunities for understanding, possessing which they would not become these sheep ... Only, to put it mildly, THE INSANE may not understand that no one needs him in gamerope, that they can only be used in their own interests ... They want to live with dignity, let them raise their standard of living, and do not hope for something they have not done yet ...
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  25. +1
    16 2014 June
    Banderland in one word ...
  26. +5
    16 2014 June
    Of course, I would like to believe that kind, friendly Ukrainians make up the overwhelming majority, are hiding and waiting for "their time" (I wonder what the truth is). They treat Russians well, but they are forced to ride in the squares for conspiracy and curse Russia in order not to betray their "love" ahead of time. But I'm afraid these are false hopes. Look at least in Contact, type in any town (not U-V) and read WHAT these people write in Ukrainian, and in Russian, by the way, too, very often - horror !!!! And all this is interspersed with children's photos, lisping over pregnant tummies of their wives and daughters. And next to it are curses and absolutely prohibitively cynical comments to the shots from Odessa, Slavyansk ... I, personally, have lost all respect for these creatures over the past 3 months - this one is no longer people. When the Great Patriotic War began - the Nazis also said this one thing, and the Germans are good - they are about to turn their bayonets in the opposite direction. By the way, ukrov is generally disliked everywhere - for ambition, rudeness, sycophancy, bawling, laziness and curvature, and even to attach legs to something that lies badly - for them it is simply sacred. The borders with the EU would be opened as soon as possible - and all this rushed there. Why do we alone have to endure this beefy boor.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      they just do nothing. 45 MILLION residents. war on both sides thousands of xnumx otpilsya. and this is always the case in any country during civil wars
    2. +1
      16 2014 June
      Because they are of the same blood - kindred to us - stupid, arrogant, narcissistic.
      The Russian people are so strong that they assimilate everyone and everything in themselves.
      (although it is necessary to admit the Americans are also trying to unite their people, otherwise they cannot, otherwise the collapse)
  27. 0
    16 2014 June
    For example, I am more interested in the question: Who are the Anglo-Saxons, and why do they never want the Slavs to live in a world without wars? Maybe I'm wrong about them, maybe they are all "white and fluffy", of course, but this question worries me a lot.
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      difficult to judge. I lived in England in 2004 for about a month, I had a good time getting to know one family only. students from Germany, Russia, Slovenia ... from different countries of Europe lived in their house. so they had no negative attitude towards Russia. the politics is going on above, and the necessary emotional background in the lower classes is artificially created
    2. Djein9
      0
      17 2014 June
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      For example, I'm more interested in the question


      .. For how much you need not to respect yourself, so that having a computer and an ocean of information to ask,
      ... such questions ... especially having such "shoulder straps" and reading what others write ... If only a child is unreasonable ... Then read first, and then, later, you will write without exposing yourself to shame ...
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  28. tokin1959
    +1
    16 2014 June
    And now it’s becoming more and more popular - dill, dill army, etc. And the concepts get in the way, people are becoming equally negative to everything Ukrainian.


    People become negative not to Ukrainian, but to Ukropsky.
    in Afghanistan, dushmans were called spirits, Chechen fighters - Czechs, Ukrainian Bandera warriors - dill.
    it is not a change of concepts, it is just a term.
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      Quote: tokin1959
      People become negative not to Ukrainian, but to Ukropsky.

      but because of the substitution of concepts and Ukrainian. for example, I went to my mother today, and she told me - "can you imagine what the Ukrainians have done" .... yes, these people are citizens of Ukraine, but they do not represent the whole of Ukraine .... this is how gradually the substitution of concepts creeps into our hearts
  29. +3
    16 2014 June
    Zapadentsy in Ukraine is the very fly in the ointment that spoiled the whole barrel of honey. And here it is already necessary to separate not flies and cutlets, but honey and tar. And this is a completely different level of separation, as you understand. Therefore, here you can save honey only from those layers where the aroma of tar has not yet penetrated. Otherwise, sharing is already useless ...
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      it is not gangrene. all can be corrected, from whom it is worthwhile to bring up the antipodes, how from the Ukrainians they brought up the anti-Slavs
  30. +4
    16 2014 June
    There is no "brotherly Ukrainian people". There are only Russians and reborn Russians, they are Ukrainians. And reincarnated people must be destroyed, as cancer cells are destroyed. Article minus.
    1. -2
      16 2014 June
      was in Ukraine? Do you know hundreds of Ukrainians personally to judge?
      1. +2
        16 2014 June
        I would like to see them all the same - lurking like-minded people, though not adoring Russia, but at least loyal. Where are they ?????? Yesterday the embassy was smashed in Kiev - at least someone intervened, in an organized, spontaneous way - at least somehow? They send their people to fight in the South-East - they are only worried about the fact that they will pay a little, will be poorly trained (to kill their own people), they will not give a bronik, children will be poorly fed. If only someone said - I do not want my son, husband, brother to participate in the fratricidal war. After all, they are not even sent to Russia, but to the east of their own country ... some moral uro.dy, except money and grub, do not care. They were pumped up against Russia for almost a hundred years, if not more. And we will hate their dill for several months. Read ukroforumy - such malice, even cut with a knife - just some kind of morder. At first, our people tried to laugh it off — you guys, come on, we are brothers, and now the response anger has settled in us — and the soil is more than real for her. It will be difficult to turn back not only to them, but already to us.
        1. -1
          16 2014 June
          The active ones were burned in the House of Trade Unions, the rest, left without support, and not able to nominate a leader, such as the Shooters, pulled their tails. Russia threw them
          1. 0
            16 2014 June
            Again - Russia threw .. But who threw something? They burned a hundred people (the Kingdom of Heaven) - half of them were accidental in general - there were children with mothers and grandmothers walking nearby in the park, young guys at all, a pregnant woman - what was that, were activists and leaders of the resistance? What, it was necessary to march to Odessa or bomb it right away, as the Americans would have done. Odessa residents, by the way, as if nothing had happened at KVN came to Moscow - they joked about the Crimea, gas - very witty, as always, and after all, 40 days at that time had not passed. If everyone has their tails between their legs, well, then the time has not come yet, then everything is not so bad and can be tolerated. Donbas is struggling - Russia is helping, which may not be sickly, by the way. Even in spite of the fact that 200 thousand miners are chopping coal and "voyuvats" for the time being "I don't want to." But at least someone got up there.
        2. Djein9
          0
          17 2014 June
          Quote: Akulina
          I would like to see them all the same - hidden minded, albeit not adoring Russia, but at least loyal. Where are they ?????? Yesterday the embassy was smashed in Kiev - at least someone intervened, in an organized, spontaneous way - at least somehow? They send their people to fight in the South-East - they are only worried about the fact that they will pay a little, will be poorly trained (to kill their own people), they will not give a bronik, children will be poorly fed. If only someone said - I do not want my son, husband, brother to participate in the fratricidal war. After all, they are not even sent to Russia, but to the east of their own country ... some moral uro.dy, except money and grub, do not care.

          ... We want to see them as brothers, and they ..., why should they be brothers, want another gratis (the "modest ones" swung dashingly) Give them a geyrop for their use ... What kind of future is scary for such people to think ...
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  31. +2
    16 2014 June
    For someone like .. for me, those who are for nationalists, Ukrainians, dill, those who are against nationalism .. Russians .. for I think so .. Great Russians, Little Russians, Belarusians, one Russian people .. but they divided it ... and try to destroy it. .
  32. Counter
    +3
    16 2014 June
    From Ukraine, too, rushes towards the inhabitants of the east, and at the same time towards Russia, that "m. Skali, quilted jackets, colorado" live here, and who else is there. And they do not differentiate by region. So what, does it bother you a lot? It is unpleasant to hear, but it does not make the weather. Not that question.
    1. +1
      16 2014 June
      it offends and gives rise to unnecessary malice, although it’s not even said about me, but about Russians.
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      2. 0
        16 2014 June
        Quote: cyberhanter
        it offends and gives rise to unnecessary malice, although it’s not even said about me, but about Russians.
        I waited a long time when you, vile, would come out. Hello, 100% Komi. With Salty, right? Or from the Thames?
        1. 0
          16 2014 June
          Is it breeding ethnic hatred? I feel my national identity, but I have never opposed myself to ethnic Russian. We are all Russians. I am the Patriot of my land and my country
  33. +2
    16 2014 June
    They are fascists, those who are on the eastern front, definitely.
  34. +4
    16 2014 June
    I have already proposed calling the junta Galicians or Galician authorities (troops, president, etc.). And ours are Orthodox.
    The Kiev government is really Galician, because it defends the opinion of only "Svidomo" Galicians, and not all Ukrainians. While most of Ukraine is Orthodox, including both Russians and Ukrainians.
    On a religious basis, Khmelnitsky joined Russia in contrast to the Commonwealth.
  35. +2
    16 2014 June
    There is no fraternal ur.naroda ... NO and, as it turns out, was not. It was flawed, offended by the whole amoeba community
  36. romzess
    0
    16 2014 June
    don't underestimate the merits of the Ukrainian army
    1. +2
      16 2014 June
      And what to do, exaggerate? As a character with the call sign "Odessa", he openly offered the correct perception of the war in Pan Shuster's show, to which a Western journalist replied that this character offers him to lie ...
  37. 0
    16 2014 June
    And all exactly they are Dill.
  38. 0
    16 2014 June
    We must contribute to the speedy signing of this paper with the EU.
    Nekhay knocked over for manna from heaven.
    Democrats will get drunk on the most tonsils, at the same time and Geyropa will be pampered by Svidomo.
  39. +1
    16 2014 June
    In principle, I agree with the article, BUT.
    We need to split the cutlets (Ukrainian peoplebrotherly to us) and flies (Galicia, zapadentsev, Bandera, fascists, outcasts, paid by the West puppets and other riffraff)!
    And Ukraine is WHO (for reference, Dad from Tulchin, Vinnytsia region).
    Otherwise, with all the rant about "dill" we will lose all Ukraine
    Lose what? To LOSE WHAT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
  40. Grandfather Victor
    0
    16 2014 June
    the author is wrong: as you call a ship, it will sink! And to a big ship - a big torpedo!
  41. 0
    16 2014 June
    That's where there are a lot of sawdust and you have to shake it out for a very long time. Http://maxpark.com/community/5512/content/2677825 angry
  42. 0
    16 2014 June
    Igor Strelkov also uses the terms "dill", "Ukrainians", "ukroarmiya", "ukrovlast", although Ukrainians are also fighting in his army.
    1. 0
      16 2014 June
      I respect Comrade very much Strelkova, and it’s not for me to judge him, he alone did more than we are all discussing here, however, I am for creating more expressed and accurate images
  43. Saturn43
    0
    16 2014 June
    The mentality of the nation has changed not overnight. Pressure on consciousness is slowly but surely turning the fraternal people with hostile elements into the hostile people with fraternal elements And very soon it will be: good dill - dead dill. even if it's your relative
  44. +1
    16 2014 June
    Who came up with the idea of ​​calling the military units of the junta "national guard?"
    Is that the Bandera Guards? Cool bridged.
    And then what is our Guard that defeated fascism?
  45. 0
    16 2014 June
    I’m half Ukrainian, but I considered myself a Russian all my life and when I say that dumbed Ukrainians are called dill (not the opposition, but seasoning) I think it’s right. So when they change their minds, then we won’t call it that.
    Fortunately, not everyone is fooled.
  46. +1
    16 2014 June
    I agree, I noticed this hatred in myself. I began to hate everything Ukrainian. And I need to separate the Nazis and the Ukrainian people. I think that in the summer I will go to rest in the Crimea again, there will definitely be Ukrainians. I remember how I treated them last year, went to away from the beach, Ukrainian language annoyed. This is the result of media propaganda.
  47. +2
    16 2014 June
    The fact of the matter is that the people of Ukraine must decide for themselves who they are - a UKRAINIAN or "UKROP". How could this people, in their midst, raise a generation that only does that "jump"? "JUMP" on the Maidan, "gallop" on corpses in the Odessa trade union house, "gallop" on the front line near howitzers firing at civilians, "gallop" on overturned cars near the Russian embassy, ​​"gallop" in front of the United States and the European Union for cookies. Now, if the people consider themselves to be Ukrainians, then they themselves must root out those who "skache" - those of their ilk, fascists and Banderlog. It is clear that not everyone in Ukraine supports what is happening, but with the exception of 7 million residents of Novorossiya, everyone else accepted what those who "jump" imposed on them and now jump to their tune ... 10-20 thousand horses crushed 40 million seedlings. Why dill? Because soon there will be no Ukraine itself, and a Ukrainian without Ukraine is dill ...
  48. 0
    17 2014 June
    What are we discussing? The people of the southeast are being wiped off the face of the earth. Outright fascism destroys the Slavs in their own land. Odessa events quickly forgot something. Who cares who and what to call? And where are the roots from? Rights E. Morales. It is urgent to take measures to disband the UN, which is the US satellite, and create a new international organization. And the events in Ukraine should become a fundamental factor in the beginning of this activity. First convene the UN Security Council and present the facts - photos and videos from the war zones. Those. pin all members of the Security Council to the wall. And after their reaction, it is finally to make a decision. I understand the consequences that may occur for the whole world as a result of such actions. But these steps can prevent an impending world war. Otherwise, war is inevitable.

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