From heroes to traitors. Vlasov

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From heroes to traitors. Vlasov


Andrei Vlasov began as a true son of his people. Born into a peasant family, he grew up in the most difficult years, and built a new country. He was awarded the Order of Lenin and commanded an army. His speeches about defending the Motherland ignited the hearts of soldiers during the darkest days of the defense of Moscow.



And then he betrayed.

In July 1942, the general was captured. The enemy immediately realized the value of such a figure. The persuasion, promises, and psychological pressure began. Vlasov broke. He made a deal with those who were exterminating his people.

"The Russian Liberation Army"—that's what he called his unit. These words sound like blasphemy. What kind of "liberation army" can someone who serves the fascists have? What kind of freedom can be brought by the bayonets of those who burned villages and shot civilians?

Vlasov became a symbol of betrayal. Not because he was the first, nor the last. But because he was the highest-ranking. A general who was trusted, believed—and who deceived everyone.

The scale of shame


Collaboration reached monstrous proportions. Various sources cite between 500 and 1 million people somehow connected to the Vlasov movement. This is a terrifying figure. But it pales in comparison to another: the 27 million Soviet citizens who gave their lives for their homeland.

Among those millions were those who were captured but did not break. Some died of hunger and disease in the camps but did not collaborate with the enemy. Some escaped from captivity to retake weapon and fight. Their names are often unknown. But they are the true heroes. Those who, under the most impossible circumstances, preserved human dignity and loyalty to duty.

But the Vlasovites chose differently. They chose treason, covering it up with talk of "fighting Stalinism." But when the Nazis were destroying entire villages, hanging partisans, and executing hostages, how could there be a "fight against Stalinism" next to them?

Moral judgment


Traitors love to talk about "choice." That they had to "choose between two evils." But that's a lie. The real choice was only one: remain loyal to the Motherland or betray it. Anything else is self-denial and cowardice.

A Soviet soldier who attacked under fire didn't dwell on moral dilemmas. He was defending his land, his loved ones, his future. He knew what he was fighting for. And he fought to the end.

And what about the Vlasovites? They hid behind the Nazis. They dropped leaflets, calling on others to surrender. They dreamed of the power the Nazis promised them for their betrayal. And at the decisive moment—May 1945, when Nazi Germany was collapsing—they tried to change their tune by aiding the Prague Uprising.

But this isn't remorse. This is cowardice. This is an attempt to save one's own skin when it became clear that the home team was losing.

Fair retribution


August 1, 1946. Butyrka Prison courtyard. Vlasov and his accomplices received their just punishment.

The trial was closed—and rightly so. There was no need to make a spectacle out of the traitors. They don't deserve attention. They deserve to be forgotten.

Execution by hanging is the same fate that befell the Nazi criminals at the Nuremberg Trials. Justice has been served. The traitors have received what they deserved.

Today, some are trying to rehabilitate Vlasov's followers. They talk about "political repression." They call them "fighters against totalitarianism." But this is a lie. It's an attempt to rewrite historyto justify betrayal.

Lessons for Russia


The story of the Vlasovites is more than just a historical digression. It's a warning. Betrayal doesn't arise out of nowhere. It grows from small things—skepticism, mistrust of one's own country, the illusion that "somewhere else things are better."

Russia has endured terrible trials. Two world wars. Civil war. Devastation. Famine. But our people persevered. Not thanks to traitors, but in spite of them. Thanks to the millions of ordinary people who believed in their country and defended it.

Today we live in a different time. But the threats haven't gone away. And the betrayal hasn't gone away either. It's just changed form. It's no longer Vlasov's army, but other projects—propaganda, manipulation, attempts to divide society from within.

But we remember the lessons of history. We remember how betrayal ends. And we know that Russia's true strength lies in the unity of its people, in its loyalty to traditions, and in its readiness to defend its land.

General Vlasov could have become a hero. He could have died with honor, as thousands of his comrades did in captivity. But he chose betrayal. And this choice determined his place in history—the place of a traitor whose name became a byword.

Let us not forget this lesson. Let us not forget those who betrayed us, and those who remained faithful. History has laid everything out in its place. Traitors are hanged. Heroes are immortal.

Screenwriter and director: D. Shulepov
Producer: A. Kolesnik

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  1. +5
    April 5 2026 05: 58
    The trial was closed—and rightly so. There was no need to make a spectacle out of the traitors. They don't deserve attention. They deserve to be forgotten.

    I categorically disagree, this is not a performance... the trial and execution of traitors must be open.
    Traitors must be remembered...
    On July 14-17, 1943, another Krasnodar trial of traitors and Nazis took place...openly and demonstratively.
    On July 18, in the city square of Krasnodar, the sentence was carried out on eight Judas traitors, accomplices of Hitler's bandits.
    This cannot be consigned to oblivion.
    1. +3
      April 5 2026 06: 06
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      This cannot be consigned to oblivion.
    2. +2
      April 5 2026 06: 12
      am
      They deserve to be forgotten.
      But for some reason oblivion did not happen; Vlasov and his accomplices are on everyone’s lips. am
      1. +2
        April 7 2026 17: 45
        Solzhenitsyn and Ilyin, the last of the "Vlasovites," are, oddly enough, the favorites of Moon-faced.
        So what do you want in that case???
  2. -7
    April 5 2026 06: 11
    I don't dispute anything. Just one question. Vlasov's units were enormous. They ate, drank, clothed, and armed themselves with German funds. But they fought surprisingly little in the war! It always turned out that the Germans had almost no success using them. It's a very, very strange story.
    There's a conspiracy theory, unsubstantiated. It says Vlasov was Stalin's project. A man who voluntarily chose death for his country, branded a traitor, with no hope of a fond memory. Far more terrible than simple death...
    Gather around yourself traitors, weaklings, the very filthiest of all. And, with skillful maneuvering, let off all the steam. A great task. Perhaps none of this is true. But...
    1. +8
      April 5 2026 06: 28
      But surprisingly few participated in the war!
      - They were used as security units in the rear, thereby freeing up German units to conduct combat operations on the front lines....
      1. -1
        April 5 2026 07: 18
        And in all sorts of similar cases, yes. In the USSR, I read a book by an NKVD agent who was sent in (naturally). He was quite high up in their ranks, and the book was fascinating. Unfortunately, I don't remember the author or the title. He, of course, never said anything like that. But when I read this conspiracy theory, it made some sense...
        1. +2
          April 5 2026 07: 50
          A. Vasiliev. "At one o'clock, your Excellency."
    2. 0
      April 5 2026 07: 34
      Quote: Mikhail3
      There is a conspiracy theory, not supported by any evidence.

      This version was introduced with one goal in mind: to justify Vlasov’s betrayal.
      But this version doesn't justify the hundreds of thousands who rallied to his banner. And what is Vlasov without his followers? A mere zero.
      1. 0
        April 5 2026 12: 28
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        This version was introduced with one goal in mind: to justify Vlasov’s betrayal.

        Really? And what was the goal? Vlasov himself might not be a traitor. So what? Who exactly does this help, and how?
        1. 0
          April 5 2026 13: 54
          Who exactly does this help and how?
          - You apparently forgot about the attempts to equate Stalin with Hitler....
          1. 0
            April 5 2026 14: 43
            I remember. But there's no connection. The "guardians" have clearly gone completely nuts and don't know what to say anymore. Alas, reflexively condemning everything that doesn't conform to the most primitive slogans isn't protecting our values. It's undermining and destroying them.
            1. -1
              April 5 2026 14: 54
              There is a connection if you imagine that Vlasov was a fighter against Bolshevism, and if this is unlikely to work now, then in 50-100 years it might very well work...
              1. 0
                April 5 2026 19: 05
                The constant exhibition of polycrine humanstasis has come into play. Stop...))
                1. 0
                  April 5 2026 19: 30
                  Stop scaring people with reptilian swearing... laughing laughing
                  1. 0
                    April 6 2026 06: 31
                    After seeing my post, you clicked the minus sign, "fighting enemies." Now you're trying to explain to yourself why you did it. There's no explanation. But you're not ready to admit you'd done something stupid, and not the first one at that, as you always do. So, you resorted to the wheeled tours... That's more Russian, right?
                    1. 0
                      April 6 2026 08: 31
                      You're mistaken, I didn't give a single downvote in the comments to this article. To prove my point, I already upvoted you there today, and you can check out my discussion with Unknown from yesterday below—downvotes are also bad there, I don't have that habit. hi
                      1. 0
                        April 6 2026 11: 09
                        Good if so. I'm not really interested in ratings per se, only as an indicator of interest in a post. If there aren't any, the topic isn't relevant. But the intention behind the ratings is what matters. Not for me, but for the person giving them.
        2. +2
          April 5 2026 14: 01
          Quote: Mikhail3
          Yes? And what was the purpose?

          Survive. At any cost. Even at the cost of betrayal. This is Vlasov's goal.
          I don't know yet what your goal is. But there are options.
          1. +1
            April 5 2026 14: 44
            Spit it out. Jump out. Push it out. What else is there? What does your words have to do with the topic? A bot, it seems...
  3. +2
    April 5 2026 06: 23
    Vlasov is a traitor, that says it all. He deserved his fate entirely.
  4. +4
    April 5 2026 06: 49
    And I keep wondering why the Victory Banner evokes more reverence in me than the “Vlasov” one...
    1. +5
      April 5 2026 11: 06
      How annoying are you with this nonsense about the "Vlasov flag"?
  5. +3
    April 5 2026 07: 37
    Andrei Vlasov began as a true son of his people. Born into a peasant family, he grew up in the most difficult years, and built a new country. He was awarded the Order of Lenin and commanded an army. His speeches about defending the Motherland ignited the hearts of soldiers during the darkest days of the defense of Moscow.
    There is no need for this. He was not a son of his people, etc., etc.Traitors aren't made, they're born. He consciously defected to the enemy. He revealed everything he knew then. The photo shows him explaining something on a map to the Germans. He was no longer a child who didn't understand what he was doing. Here's what he said later.
    Defendant Vlasov, please now tell the court in general terms what specifically you plead guilty to?
    Vlasov. I plead guilty to the fact that, while under difficult circumstances, I lost heart, surrendered to the Germans, slandered the Soviet command, signed a leaflet calling for the overthrow of the Soviets and for peace with the Germans, and negotiated with the Germans to create a committee. Everything was done in my name, and only since 1944 have I, to a certain extent, felt myself in the role ascribed to me, and from that time on, I managed to assemble the entire tail, all the scum, and brought them together in a committee.
    How could he even talk like that!? He lost his nerve, of course. He gave away all his accomplices. He's a real bastard. And then he slips out like he's got nothing to do with it, and so it turns out he's gone licking the Germans' boots. Just like now, the same people are saying, like, it's not us, it's life—Judas's children.
    In July 1942, the general was captured. The enemy immediately realized the value of such a figure.
    None whatsoever valuables He had no idea that there were a dozen generals in captivity. In general, Hitler didn't have a very good opinion of traitors.
    Hitler's Mountain Residence

    JUNE 3, 1943, 21:45 p.m. Keitel. The question of the treatment of prisoners, volunteers from among the prisoners, and battalions of local residents in the East seems to me at the moment to be as follows. General Zeitler may correct me if the positions I have expressed are incorrect.

    Vlasov's entire propaganda campaign, which he unleashed, so to speak, in a makeshift manner, served as the basis for the current major propaganda effort, conducted under the code name "Silver Stripes" and designed to attract defectors. Keitel: "We promise them, for propaganda purposes, that if they defect to us, they will receive special treatment. This is stated in the summary of Order No. 13, which was used for one of the leaflets."

    Fuhrer: I saw the leaflet.

    Keitel: Orders have been given for defectors to be sent to special camps.

    Führer. That's all correct. Keitel. That was said later. After a certain period of time, they are to be transferred to appropriate roles. The commander of the Eastern Armed Forces has issued an order to this effect, and I have inquired about this. If they prove themselves during a certain probationary period, they may request to be used in an appropriate role, either as volunteer assistants or for enlistment in native units. Führer. From all this, I see only one thing today, and this is decisive for me: we must avoid a situation in which we could create false impressions. It is necessary to distinguish between the right of propaganda that I direct to the other side and what we are ultimately actually doing. Führer. Today, we face precisely this danger. Order No. 13 is not subject to any discussion at all. Likewise, other things can be done in such a way that practically no consequences, even the most insignificant, follow from them, and above all, to prevent the spread of a way of thinking that I have, unfortunately, already discovered in some individuals. This has manifested itself several times even in Kluge: let's create a huge relief for ourselves if we organize a Russian army.

    Here I can only say: we will never create a Russian army – that's a fantasy of the first order. Before we do that, it will be much simpler if I turn these Russians into workers for Germany; for that is far more decisive.

    I don’t need a Russian army that I would have to completely permeate with a purely German skeleton.
    That's how he treated prisoners, only as slaves. And in general, traitors should be shown without retouching. Having experienced betrayal once,
    Don't believe the words of Judas
    1. +2
      April 5 2026 09: 37
      Traitors aren't made, they're born. He consciously defected to the enemy.
      "It doesn't add up – he commanded the 4th Mechanized Corps quite successfully from the start of the war, then managed to lead the remnants of the 37th Army out of the Kyiv pocket, and then, commanding the 20th Army, stopped the Germans on the Volokolamsk front near Moscow... I'm not making excuses for him, I'm just saying that anyone can be broken – the main thing is to find the right key, and the Germans found it. Not everyone has the courage and determination to shoot themselves or endure the abuse and humiliation of captivity. He's also not to blame for the destruction of the 2nd Shock Army; it was foisted on him after it was encircled, while in reality, Meretskov and the General Staff should have been held accountable for that."
      So, traitors are not born; if he had not ended up on the Volkhov Front, he could well have ended up in the same ranks as Rokossovsky, Gorbatov, Rybalko and other Soviet heroic generals, but fate decreed otherwise...
      1. +2
        April 5 2026 13: 18
        Quote: faiver
        It doesn't add up - he very successfully commanded the 4th Mechanized Corps from the beginning of the war, then managed to lead the remnants of the 37th Army out of the Kyiv cauldron, and then, commanding the 20th Army, stopped the Germans in the Volokolamsk direction near Moscow

        What doesn't add up? You're trying to whitewash a scoundrel, but it won't work. He has no military accomplishments. But he excelled in other areas. While serving as an adviser in China, Vlasov bought himself a sixteen-year-old Chinese woman for three months (were they short on travel expenses?). Why lose sight of local traditions? The 4th Mechanized Corps' successes were very modest; he emerged from the Kyiv cauldron not with the remnants of the 37th Army, but with military medic Podmazenko, who considered him her husband, while his wife was still alive in the rear. Generally, leaving with a PPZh was common practice for him, probably to keep things interesting; after abandoning the 2nd Army, he also wandered through the woods with a certain Voronova, a military store cook. A real go-getter! About the 20th Army.
        Major General Vlasov will be deployed no earlier than November 25-26 due to an ongoing inflammatory process in his middle ear. Chief of Staff of the Southwestern Front, Bodin. Deputy Chief of Military Administration of the Southwestern Front, Bialik-Vasyukevich."

        This telegram was sent when the formation of the 20th Army was already in full swing, and Major General Vlasov was appointed commander of it on November 20.
        The doctors' prognosis proved incorrect. Vlasov continued to be ill on December 4, 1941, when the troop concentration ended, and on December 6, when the 20th Army received orders to advance on Solnechnogorsk. Vlasov was also absent from the army on December 10, when the troops reached the Vekshino-Nikolskoye line. And although the central newspapers reported on December 13 that "General Vlasov's troops, pursuing the enemy's 2nd Tank and 106th Infantry Divisions, captured the city of Solnechnogorsk," the 20th Army also took Solnechnogorsk on December 12, 1941, without Vlasov. Here's what Chief of Staff Sandalov, who was in charge, says.
        In fact, he only arrived in the army when it had already reached the approaches to Volokolamsk.

        "At midday on December 19, an army command post began to be set up in the town of Chismany. While Kulikov, a member of the Military Council, and I were checking the latest troop positions at the communications center, the commander's adjutant entered and informed us of his arrival. Through the window, we could see a tall general wearing dark glasses emerge from a car that had stopped near the house. He was wearing a fur coat with a raised collar and felt boots. It was General Vlasov. He entered the communications center, and that's where we met for the first time.
        Regarding that... I just want to say that any person can be broken - the main thing is to find the key, and the Germans found it. Not everyone has the courage and determination to shoot themselves or endure the abuse and humiliation of captivity. ...Who has endured abuse, humiliation, etc.?
        Shtrik-Shtrikfeld: "Vlasov's initial mistrust was dispelled by the tactful treatment of the defeated enemy by the German officers and the chivalrous attitude of his enemy in the battles at Volkhov, Colonel General Lindemann. This confirmed what he essentially wanted to believe: that the Germans were not monsters, but human beings, and, as soldiers, they respected the enemy..."

        "The next time I visited General Vlasov, I had to tell him a lot about Germany. He was interested in everything. But above all, he wanted to know more about Germany's war aims. It must be said that he already knew an astonishing amount."
        I passed EVERYTHING I knew and
        consciously.
        They are born traitors, and how, this later manifested itself in 91, how many of them suddenly turned out to be followers of Vlasov.
        1. +1
          April 5 2026 13: 51
          The successes of 4-MK are very modest
          - this is a lie, it is enough to lie once for all your other statements to go down the drain..., with this I take my leave and will not continue the discussion with you... hi
          I didn't dispute that Vlasov was a traitor; he betrayed and received the punishment he deserved. I would hang traitors even now...
          1. +1
            April 5 2026 14: 55
            Quote: faiver
            This is a lie, it is enough to lie once for all your other statements to go down the drain..., with this I take my leave and will not continue the discussion with you....

            When there is nothing to object to against the facts, then it is easiest to say - it’s all a lie, a well-known technique often used by defenders of traitors good
            1. 0
              April 5 2026 15: 01
              I have to point out to you that you are a very narrow-minded person, try to dispute this (although you will probably say that it is a fake):
              1. 0
                April 5 2026 21: 17
                Quote: faiver
                I have to point out to you that you are a very narrow-minded person. Try to dispute this (although you will probably say that it is a fake).

                Come on, you very distant person, what are you trying to prove to me with this order? It's signed by Vlasov, but it's also signed by Sandalov, and what does that prove? I'll give you another excerpt from Sandalov's memoirs.
                Showing the troop positions on the map, I reported that the front command was very dissatisfied with the slow advance and had sent Katukov's group from the 16th Army to Volokolamsk to assist us. Kulikov supplemented my report by stating that Army General Zhukov had pointed out the army commander's passive role in troop leadership and was demanding his personal signature on operational documents.

                Vlasov listened to all this in silence, frowning. He asked us several times to repeat himself, citing an ear infection that was making his hearing poor. Then, with a sullen expression, he muttered to us that he was feeling better and would take full control of the army in a day or two. After this conversation, he immediately set off in a waiting car for army headquarters, which had been moved to Nudol-Sharino." [22]

                On December 20, Volokolamsk was liberated.
                Why shouldn't I trust Sandalov?
                1. +1
                  April 5 2026 23: 00
                  Because after the war, everyone who wrote memoirs either tried not to mention the Vlasov name at all, or wrote only in a negative light, otherwise no one would have published their memoirs.
                  Why shouldn't I trust Sandalov?
                  "So you believe a literary work, while an official document from the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense is a worthless piece of paper to you? If, according to Sandalov, Vlasov didn't join the army until the 20th of December, how could he sign the order of December 7, 1941? Retroactively?"
                  Here is a characterization of Vlasov given by Army General Zhukov:
                  Lieutenant General Vlasov commanded the 20th Army from November 20, 1941. He led the 20th Army's operations, including the counterattack on Solnechnogorsk, the army's offensive in the Volokolamsk direction, and the breakthrough of the defensive line on the Lama River. Comrade Vlasov carried out all the tasks assigned to the army's troops conscientiously. Lieutenant General Vlasov personally is well-prepared operationally and has organizational skills. He is perfectly capable of leading the army's troops. He is fully qualified for the position of army commander.

                  So, in your opinion, Zhukov was lying?
                  1. 0
                    April 6 2026 06: 39
                    Quote: faiver
                    Because after the war, everyone who wrote memoirs either tried not to mention the Vlasov name at all, or wrote only in a negative light, otherwise no one would have published their memoirs.

                    Why mention his name? Everyone already knew he was a traitor, no need to bring it up again.
                    Quote: faiver
                    So you believe a literary work, while an official document from the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense is a worthless piece of paper? If, according to Sandalov, Vlasov didn't join the army until the 20th of December, how did he sign the order of December 7, 1941? Retroactively?

                    Let's assume that Sandalov lied. , but still this does not put Vlasov in the rank of "outstanding commanders" - an ordinary average guy, without a good chief of staff he is a zero.
                    Quote: faiver
                    So, in your opinion, Zhukov was lying?

                    I was mistaken, that would be the right way to say it. Here's another characteristic, an early one.
                    Comrade Vlasov is a highly competent commander. He has both a good general education and military training. During his deployment, he carried out a number of important assignments. He demonstrated his expertise and enjoyed considerable respect. Due to his nerves, he sometimes became rude. Under extremely difficult circumstances, he proved himself a worthy Bolshevik of our country. He possesses sufficient willpower and perseverance. He is persistent, sociable, and active in public life. He is devoted to the cause of the Lenin-Stalin party. He has a good Marxist-Leninist background. He can keep military secrets.

                    Practically healthy and resilient to camp life.

                    12/29/39. Brigade Commander Ilyin."
                    What follows from the characteristics? Push the scoundrel at the very beginning, he'll climb further on his ownYou can't see a person behind a piece of paper. That's why Vlasov was scrambling. So there's no need to find excuses for a traitor over and over again - there are no excuses
      2. +2
        April 8 2026 14: 42
        I'm not making excuses for him, I just want to say that anyone can be broken.

        He was appointed commander of the 2nd Ukrainian Army at the very end of April, and from the beginning of March the army was surrounded and stopped receiving provisions, the mud was falling, the army was "sitting in a swamp" and there was no way to get there...
        Meretskov did not give the order for the army to break out of the encirclement...
        and at this time Vlasov is appointed army commander...
        And at the end of June, the order came to break out of the encirclement, but no one could leave anymore, hunger killed the survivors, both so-called roads were completely pierced by fire, the only way out was by crawling...
        In any case, Vlasov became the "scapegoat" in this situation...
        He is not to blame for the destruction of the 2nd Shock Army; it was foisted on him after it had already been encircled, while in fact Meretskov and the General Staff should have been held responsible for this.

        Yes, that's exactly it - they didn't report to the Supreme Commander about the deplorable state of affairs, they were afraid for themselves....
        and going over to the enemy's side helped them to ward off the possible consequences of inaction...
  6. +3
    April 5 2026 07: 41
    "And let your word be: 'Yes, yes; no, no,' but whatever is more than this comes from the evil one."

    And, as a result, the Russian Orthodox Church united with the descendants of Vlasov's men...

    Last week, the Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad (ROCOR) declared General Andrei Vlasov, who had defected to Hitler, a Russian patriot. Izvestia columnist Boris Klin discusses this event, which has unpleasantly shocked Russian society, with Archimandrite Tikhon (Shevkunov), abbot of Moscow's Sretensky Monastery. So who was Vlasov, really, and why are they trying to implant a new myth in the public consciousness?
    Question: Father Tikhon, I must admit that the statement of the ROCOR Synod caused a real shock.

    Answer: The Church Abroad once revealed to many of us the fates of the last Russian Emperor and his family, the new martyrs, and the White movement. And now the Church Abroad offers us another figure – General Vlasov… On the one hand, this is unexpected, on the other – it was assumed that such a discussion would arise sooner or later. After all, some of the people who now make up the Church Abroad are descendants of soldiers and officers from Vlasov's army. When we conducted our discussions in preparation for reunification with the ROCOR, a tacit agreement was reached not to raise this issue.
  7. 0
    April 5 2026 11: 14
    It's important to understand what is meant by betrayal in this context, "betrayal of the country." It's important to understand and distinguish between "country" and the authorities within it. Is this the ruling elite or the common people? If we say we have no elite, that the elite is the entire people, or that we are all elites, or that we are nobody. If the authorities are representatives elected by the people, by the people, from the people, for the people, in the name of the people, then betrayal is betrayal. But if there is a ruling elite, separate from the people and from the country, can refusing to serve the elite be equated with betrayal? This difference in approaches manifested itself precisely in World War I and the Civil War, on the one hand, and in World War II, on the other.
    1. 0
      April 5 2026 11: 56
      So, based on your words, Krasnov, Shkuro and other White émigrés who went to serve Hitler are not traitors?
      1. 0
        April 5 2026 12: 19
        Judging by the path they've chosen, they're actually proponents of the second approach: that the country and the government are the ruling elite. From their perspective, and that of their supporters who say "the common people are not the people," they're not traitors.
        I'm a proponent of the first approach: that the elite is the entire people, or we are all the elite, or no one. The people decide, the people must decide, the common people, the entire people. Therefore, based on what the people stand for, what they fight for, this is what determines what constitutes betrayal.
  8. 0
    April 5 2026 17: 00
    Quote: yuriy55
    And I keep wondering why the Victory Banner evokes more reverence in me than the “Vlasov” one.

    Yes good drinks
  9. +1
    April 6 2026 18: 35
    I currently understand J.V. Stalin and his policies more and more.
  10. 0
    April 22 2026 13: 17
    He is not to blame for the destruction of the 2nd Shock Army; it was foisted on him after it had already been encircled, while in fact Meretskov and the General Staff should have been held responsible for this.

    Perhaps Vlasov understood that he was being sent to his death, to the 2nd Shock.
    But he didn't want to accept it...
    That's why he betrayed consciously, and didn't lose heart.
  11. 0
    9 May 2026 07: 47
    My relative, E.M. Gromov, according to my grandmother, served in the Second Army and was captured. He didn't join the ROA, but escaped from a prisoner-of-war camp twice. After his release, he returned to his homeland and worked as a captain on coastal vessels. He applied three times for a transfer to work on foreign-going vessels, but he was never granted a visa.