Is man to man a cyborg?

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The US National Intelligence published the report "World trends 2030 of the year: alternative worlds", according to which in the foreseeable future people will have a whole set of superpowers. If Americans are to be believed, then already during the life of the current generations, the “superpowers” ​​will easily be implanted into the human body - night vision, mega memory and the ability to develop incredible speeds will become quite common. Cyborg will live next to ordinary people in megacities, and anyone with the availability of funds will be able to redesign themselves into superman with the help of plastic surgery.

Questions immediately appear a lot. Is it dangerous to excessively introduce artificial elements into the human body? Where is the line that will distinguish a person from a cyborg? Will it be possible to cybernize the brain or even replace it with another? And extend life with all these improvements? Will cyborgs take root?

As it turned out, it is not necessary to turn to experts from abroad for the answers - the problem of technical re-equipment of a person is closely involved in Russia. Moreover, domestic researchers and enthusiasts have advanced in this, perhaps even further than the Americans.

In any case, based on the developments of our scientists, it is already possible to draw far-reaching futuristic conclusions. Some of them were presented to Rosbalt by one of the ideologists of the universal human cyberization, Dmitry Itskov, a Russian billionaire, a "transhumanist" and the founder of the Russia 2045 public movement, whose members are leading experts in the field of interfaces, robotics and artificial organs, including , the project of creating an artificial human body (avatar).

“The functions of any organ - vision, hearing, touch, thinking and motor activity - can be improved using cybernetic technologies,” Itskov explains. “When will this happen? Judging by today's pace of development of robotics and neuroprosthetics, very soon. Cybernetic technologies are already being used for the production of auditory implants, bionic prostheses of the extremities, as well as internal organs, up to the prosthetic heart. For the best ten years, artificial limb prostheses can be expected, which, both externally and in terms of the number of degrees of freedom, will not be inferior to anything human. It will take about the same amount of time to improve the visual prostheses to such an extent that they will exceed biological human vision. The first neuroprostheses will appear in medical practice already after 5 years. Very soon we will see people who use these technologies for medical reasons. And by the year 2030, it will be possible to observe a real boom in their use. "

“Of the latest achievements, we can mention Argus 2, a retinal prosthesis recently introduced into clinical practice, which allows seeing absolutely blind people around the world. Or DEKA Arm System, which can be called a breakthrough in the creation of artificial limbs, because it allows such complex manipulations like turning the key in the lock and fastening the zipper.In addition, in the United States, with the support of the Advanced Research Agency at the Ministry of Defense, Darpa began to develop neuroprostheses capable of restoring to promote brain activity in people with disabilities with damaged parts of the brain, "notes Dmitry Itskov.

In this regard, he gives two examples. A resident of Austria after an electric shock, lost both hands. Subsequently, he was installed bioelectric prostheses that can bend and pick up objects, while they are controlled by brain impulses with the help of supersensitive sensors. And in one of the laboratories in the United States created neurochip, which enabled a woman, paralyzed after a stroke, to bring a glass of water to her mouth - sending a mental order to the artificial hand. In addition, as expected, retinal implants will allow people to see in the dark, and the latest neural interfaces will help manage the most sophisticated technology, instantly memorize gigabytes of data and do astronomical calculations. "You ask how it will affect the rehabilitation of people with disabilities? In the most wonderful way," Itskov convinces. ".

“In theory, any human organ can be replaced by another, artificial,” says another member of the Russia-2045 project, Alexander Kaplan, psychophysiologist, doctor of biological sciences, professor, head. the laboratory of neurophysiology and neurointerfaces at the biological faculty of Moscow State University. As a physiologist, he does not see any particular problems in creating artificial human organs, including such important ones as the liver and the heart. However, in his opinion, the situation with the artificial brain is much more complicated. “Some functions of the brain can be reproduced and even improved,” Kaplan argues. “For example, those related to solving computational tasks, memory, perception. But there is a function that cannot be reproduced by technical devices — the creation of a working model of the external world, our internal the world of mental images ... "

Nevertheless, on the portal of the Russia-2045 project, Alexander Kaplan outlines rather optimistic scenarios for human cybernization: “Using the interface, you can give the brain peripheral devices, manipulators, sensors, and a movement system. "faulty" organs and stop only at creating a mobile Robot with a neural interface for control from the human brain, then if funds are available, this project can be implemented in the next five years. By the time it becomes possible to maintain the life of the brain in an artificial environment, biotechnological robots will have reached the perfection of form and will look like a decent human body.

All the prerequisites for such a development situation. Already today there are neural interfaces that directly connect an artificial mechanical limb with the human central nervous system - and this is the first step to create a cyborg.

What organs of the human body is the easiest to make? According to the head of the Laboratory of Mathematical Neurobiology at the Institute of Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology of the Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Frolov, these are the kidneys, the heart, and the lungs. And worst of all, liver prosthetics are amenable to it. However, it comes to her. The time will come when everyone will be offered a difficult choice: to remain human or transform into a cyborg.

“The British man Nigel Ekland because of his bionic prosthesis has long been called a“ cyborg ”and a“ terminator, ”Dmitry Itskov notes.“ Today you can call it any person with a pacemaker or auditory implant. But, in my opinion, you shouldn’t single out a class of people whose life has become more valuable due to technological devices, not an artificial limb or a prosthesis of an internal organ makes a person less human, and the quality of these organs will be so high that their presence in the human body lzya will recognize with the naked eye ... First of all, these technologies can and should be used for medical reasons, but over time they will cease to be inferior in functional biological human organs and will find the perfect compatibility with the body. "

Not so long ago, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin spoke on the same subject. According to him, in 2013 in Russia, a program has been launched to create combat robots that are as “compatible” as possible with humans. Intelligent control system technology, weapons and robots, which will be included in the equipment of the Russian soldier, will have a number of features: for example, a "copying" suit, "sensible" manipulators and 3D-sight. The soldier-operator will be able not only to transfer all his movements precisely to the military android robot, but also to receive from him similar feedback. In fact, the machine operator will be in its "reality". “Nothing like this has yet been created in the world,” Rogozin stressed. The first phase of the project is expected to be completed in 2015 year.

However, is it dangerous to excessively introduce artificial elements into the human body to improve its capabilities? Where is the threshold of artificiality for the body and brain? What criteria should it be expressed in?

“In my opinion, the threshold of artificiality does not exist,” Itskov believes. “Moreover, the task necessary for humanity is to create a completely artificial immortal body for the human self. It will not hurt, grow old, and be able to withstand radiation, high and low pressure , to conquer the depths of the ocean and the Grand Cosmos. Over time, these copies of a person, controlled by thought using neural interfaces, will become an affordable mass product like a car. Avatar will become a cult and fashionable gadget like the iPad today, iPhone or home 3-D cinema. Children will play with avatars as if with toys. In the industry, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the military sphere there will be a “revolution of avatars” - because they, as they say, do not drown in water and do not burn in fire. "

Moreover, according to scientists, a person is able not only to supplement his body with mechanisms, but also to pour into machines. Augmented reality systems, the first prototypes of which have already been created, enable us to use truly gigantic amounts of information that are inaccessible with physical perception. According to Itskov, the logical procedure for the fusion of the human brain with the technological device is the connection of the brain with the full prosthesis of the human body to prolong life.

“An artificial body will not become an exact copy of a biological organism,” he specifies. “It will be a functional copy of a person, allowing us to have the usual five senses, move and, perhaps, feel like a person, but - designed according to different principles. And this, of course Perhaps, moreover, a good telepresence avatar can be created already in 2-3 of the year. According to our calculations, a person’s head can be transplanted to a fully artificial body (full body prosthesis) in 7 in years. so complicated, but the technology can be implemented in the next 10-12 years. And the first such experiment in small animals, is likely to be carried out in a year and a half. "

Is it possible in this case to create a brain prosthesis? "Yes," Itskov assures, "it is absolutely possible. I am convinced of this, because I am aware of the current work on the creation of prostheses in certain parts of the brain that are being carried out now in the US in experiments with animals, about the beginning of work on creating brain prostheses for people. Plus, the scale of European and American projects to create activity maps and models of the human brain is also impressive. Sooner or later, an artificial brain for our "I" will be created. It will not appear immediately, but gradually, by successively replacing individual fragments with electronic chips, as a result, a substantial part of the brain will no longer be biological, that is, the brain can be disassembled, some damaged fragments can be replaced with artificial ones, and then they can be assembled again, like puzzles or Lego".

A separate, and perhaps the main question - how to transfer the consciousness of a person, his soul, into a brain prosthesis. Is it even possible to fully and adequately create and reproduce a brain model on a computer, and then copy and transfer information from the brain to another medium without loss of data and with complete preservation of the personality? What do scientists know about it? Is it possible that consciousness will simply die, become worthless along with the outdated biological brain? This threat, according to many experts, is more than real.

But Dmitry Itskov does not frighten: "Transferring" I "into an artificial body can be done by gradually replacing biological parts of the brain with artificial ones - neuroprostheses, and also by creating artificial networks consisting of the smallest sensors - nanopoly. Modern scientists have the quantum nature of our consciousness. And perhaps, along with the strategy of a gradual transition from the biological to the non-biological brain, quantum teleportation from the biological to the artificial brain will be feasible. to extend the life of a particular person, it is not enough just to copy information into an artificial brain and, accordingly, into an artificial body. It is important to understand what we carry - what is “I”, “consciousness”, “soul.” Research in this area is perhaps the most an important and ambitious task for science for the next 30-50 years. "

Who knows, it is possible that someday you can transfer your consciousness from one avatar to another as easily as you can change a sim card in a mobile phone or tablet today. I took it and copied myself to a new gadget.
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  1. +19
    14 June 2014 14: 43
    Everything is possible. California was led by the Terminator for several years.
    1. +5
      14 June 2014 15: 16
      Right now Ugrobia is led by people with a brain prosthesis - and you - about the terminator ...
      1. +4
        14 June 2014 15: 25
        The US National Intelligence published the report "World trends 2030 of the year: alternative worlds", according to which in the foreseeable future people will have a whole set of superpowers. If Americans are to be believed, then already during the life of the current generations, the “superpowers” ​​will easily be implanted into the human body - night vision, mega memory and the ability to develop incredible speeds will become quite common. Cyborg will live next to ordinary people in megacities, and anyone with the availability of funds will be able to redesign themselves into superman with the help of plastic surgery.

        Well, mattresses already consider themselves exceptional, and all their warriors aren't Batman so Superman laughing
        1. +4
          14 June 2014 16: 02
          Quote: Author Andrei Volodin
          Dmitry Itskov, one of the ideologues of universal human cyberization, is a Russian billionaire, "transhumanist" and founder of the social movement "Russia 2045", whose members - leading experts in the field of interfaces, robotics and artificial organs - are involved in, among other things, the project of creating an artificial human body ( avatar).

          Frank nonsense. Itskov - who is this? If characters mix comma "interfaces, robotics and artificial organs", then it’s obvious to me that they don’t know not only what they’re talking about, but also what kind of specialists should do this.
          And where is it financed in Russia? projections? RUSNANO does not offer. Chubais has their own wedding there.

          According to our calculations, transplantation of a human head into a completely artificial body (a complete prosthesis of the body) is possible after 7 years. It is more difficult to transplant a brain, but this technology can be implemented in the next 10-12 years.


          How it was done in Russia. Accidentally. One of the authors and ideologists of the installation for laser synthesis of three-dimensional objects was friends with the founder of the national school of computer craniofacial identification, one of the most respected Russian forensic experts. Therefore, a lot of work was done on friendship for free out of curiosity and interest, albeit partially in the framework of the instructions of the Government Commission, which paid the travel expenses to Yekaterinburg. There was work with the remains of a famous burial ground "royal family", later transferred to the Alexander Nevsky Lavra, as a result of which it became possible to restore accurate three-dimensional dimensional information from tomographic data, incl. bone pathologies, incl. from the living. This is 1998. Then, in order not to waste the work, they began to look for practical applications. Customized implants. Let me note that substances cured by laser radiation - some high-molecular compounds - are rejected by the body. Although a traditional implant, at best, made of titanium, is also not native to a person. And in case of childhood pathology (the child is growing), he has to do surgery to replace the implant regularly with a "hammer and chisel". So I had to do a lot supercriticism (and everyone else) - an additive that, under certain conditions, will remove the cured polymer base of the implant from the body, when the filler - hydroxyapatite - becomes a "native" bone with a newly formed circulatory system and, possibly, a nervous one. Native in the sense that the implant will grow with the body. 1999 is a clinical trial in rats and rabbits. Since 2000 - tests on volunteers. About 6 thousand operations in several medical institutions in Russia. But the Ministry of Health has not yet approved the methodology. It is now 2014.
          Say that the clowns gathered in 7 years to create ALL analogues of human organs, and the brain - for 10-12? Oh well...
        2. +2
          14 June 2014 16: 37
          Quote: Sterlya
          Well, mattresses already consider themselves exceptional, and all their warriors aren't Batman so Superman is laughing


          That's just it, that they have all the heroics placed on the exclusiveness of one, and all the rest are sitting and waiting for the hero to come and save them.
          1. +2
            14 June 2014 17: 53
            I agree with the artificial bodies that they are needed, but a person is able, according to the same calculations of scientists, to live 150-250 years. The functions of the brain are still not fully utilized. I am very interested in the censor in the brain as a result, a person sees about 5 percent of the entire spectrum, why implant the device if you can understand how the brain works. Replacing the brain is simply not possible. Let us take extreme impacts on a person as a result of superpowers, though a small number of people are true, this will not work with iron. In general terms, at the moment, something is hindering the development of a spiritual person who does not need all this implanted iron, because there are people who are significantly superior to ordinary people in memory, calculating formulas, listing for a long time, and yet it is possible for every person
            1. 0
              14 June 2014 22: 03
              before building cyborgs
              we must first build separate concentration camps and prisons for them
              Mark my words bully
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    2. 0
      15 June 2014 01: 57
      Quote: Stock Officer
      Everything is possible. California was led by the Terminator for several years.

      1. nvv
        nvv
        0
        15 June 2014 07: 28
        Why reinvent the wheel? It was invented two thousand years ago. There you will confirm it. Cutting off the foreskin to the child, curving the foundation of a life of understanding and here you have a ready cyber. I'm wrong, US?
        1. 0
          16 June 2014 02: 02
          Quote: nvv
          Why reinvent the wheel? It was invented two thousand years ago. Won and confirm US. Cut off the foreskin to the child, bend the foundation of a life of understanding, and here is cyber ready for you. I'm wrong, US?

          Whose cow would moan about the "twisted foundation of life-understanding" No.
          As a child, did your grandfather read Mein Kampf fairy tales for the night? laughing
          Or would you, according to Freud, explain why you are so fascinated by the topic of "moral ugliness"? lol
          Who does it hurt ... request
          1. nvv
            nvv
            0
            16 June 2014 06: 34
            May I be on you? We are forum users, so to speak, fellow soldiers. But you, I turn to a friend on you to a foe to 3- you to the enemy. 3-You do not need to decrypt? So here. About the first one. I specifically did not fix this error. I think so. And with the Russian language, everything is fine with me. As for the 2nd observation. Grandfather died in V.O.V. And my grandmother told only Russian fairy tales. You accused me of fascism. This shield has long been full of holes. Why? Remember Hitler when he had a powerful army and he did not touch Switzerland. Who was the master of this monkey? Your ancestors. And I can’t say anything about Freud’s account. I had to earn a living.
            1. 0
              17 June 2014 01: 42
              Quote: nvv
              Remember Hitler when he had a powerful army and he did not touch Switzerland. Who was the master of this monkey? Your ancestors ...

              Well, this is the result of the "curvature of the foundation of life-understanding", you are not a fascist, you are a Nazi - these are different concepts, and a Nazi brought up on lies, prejudices, and slander. Only a Nazi can blame the entire nation for hypothetical offenses of a few (if there were any), forgetting that "the family has its black sheep", including his own.
              And I am sincerely glad that your grandfather (a colleague of my grandfathers, if we are talking about the Red Army, of course) does not see who his grandson grew up, although I regret that he died, he would quickly explain to you, in one slap, in childhood - what is Nazism .

              Py.Sy. “My ancestors taught HONOR, CONSCIENCE, and JUSTICE.” And you were raised on HATE. Hatred poisons the soul and does not bring happiness. My condolences, go in peace, God will judge you.
              1. nvv
                nvv
                -1
                17 June 2014 15: 16
                Sorry if I offended you. Believe me, not from evil. It's a shame for the state.
                1. 0
                  17 June 2014 22: 15
                  Quote: nvv
                  Sorry if I offended you. Believe me, not from evil. It's a shame for the state.

                  There is a huge difference between love of one’s homeland and hatred of someone else’s. For the minus, I'm sorry, the mobile is buggy, I wanted to ply for sincerity ... but above we can see otherwise they decided. Do not anger God with bad thoughts and emotions.
                  1. nvv
                    nvv
                    +1
                    17 June 2014 22: 27
                    No problem. And as for the Motherland, life is forcing.
  2. +1
    14 June 2014 14: 46
    Maybe the apocalypse will not consist in the death of people, but in their transformation into machines.
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    2. +1
      14 June 2014 22: 25
      Quote: Barboskin
      Maybe the apocalypse will not consist in the death of people, but in their transformation into machines.

      Where can I get such a lot of batteries? belay
  3. +2
    14 June 2014 14: 58
    America is obsessed with its exclusivity, now that's how the Fuhrer in forty-fifth hopes for a miracle weapon or for cyber people, why not the sunset of the Third Reich !!! SUNSET STATE DEPARTMENT !!!!
  4. +4
    14 June 2014 15: 06
    Cyborg-shmiborgi. They are not really able to fly into space themselves, they are going to do cyborgs ...
  5. +1
    14 June 2014 15: 26
    Well, I don’t know what to say. Cyborgs, shmiborgs. Haha goat button accordion, why invent, or replace artificial organs? It is enough to organize the next war, so the organs are cheap and cheerful. At least in Yugoslavia it was proved.
  6. +2
    14 June 2014 15: 54
    "... And the CHIP is under his skin, so that he does not create anything, so that he does not interfere and that he thinks less"

    A new motive for an old song by V. Vysotsky. And this is no longer fiction! The experiments were carried out very successfully.
    Some of them have their hands itching to "chip" everyone behind the hill, with the prospect of global control and the possibility of influencing both economically (there is a credit card in Chip) and physically (experiments are being carried out).
    These are cyborgs.
    1. 0
      15 June 2014 00: 28
      shorter than the American wassat
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  7. +1
    14 June 2014 16: 30
    Human thought does not stand still, no one can stop its flight. I think that everything that will be invented in the future will be put at the service of man, without prejudice to his personality and intellect.
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    2. 0
      14 June 2014 22: 42
      Quote: Giant thought
      Human thought does not stand still, no one can stop its flight. I think that everything that will be invented in the future will be put at the service of man, without prejudice to his personality and intellect.


      Bro! such a person already exists! Even a few people!
      for them everything in the world is already at the service sad
  8. Alf
    +4
    14 June 2014 16: 42
    It would be better if the Americans put in their brains, though, to manage the electronic herd is Washington's dream. Bill Gates will get rich. There will be an OS-Windows 10.
    1. +3
      14 June 2014 17: 47
      Quote: Alf
      It would be better if the Americans put in their brains, though, to manage the electronic herd is Washington's dream. Bill Gates will get rich. There will be an OS-Windows 10.


      Windows in the head? God forbid everyone laughing
  9. +3
    14 June 2014 16: 43
    Fu. And do not you go to hell with your "developments". I will never build in pieces of iron to myself. And then some other NSA or FSB will intercept my thoughts (like Internet traffic). tongue
    1. +2
      14 June 2014 18: 34
      this is an eternal struggle between armor and shell, there will always be custom firmware, firewall, etc. on the chip :-)
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      2. +1
        14 June 2014 22: 46
        and then bam and
        "terminators of all factories, connect !!!" angry
  10. +3
    14 June 2014 17: 07
    It would be better if we worked on a transplant of conscience, you look, and you can save on artificial limbs.
    1. +3
      14 June 2014 17: 24
      Great thought, but where can I get it, conscience? It has never been in the USA, it has ended in Europe, and there is already a shortage in Russia (it quickly disappears in exchange for a comfortable life). You can’t artificially grow, it is given once at birth.
      And without it - cyborgs.
  11. +1
    14 June 2014 17: 14
    One thing is clear in advance - neither healthier, nor happier, nor better life from these super powers will not. Rather, on the contrary, modification to ordinary "mortals" (slaves) will be prohibited and criminalized. And the controlling tuzikam (supervision of slaves) can do it.
  12. +4
    14 June 2014 17: 29
    Argus-2 is just a signal booster that stimulates the remaining healthy cells of the retina, slightly improving vision due to this simple scheme. They will not cure or cure complete blindness, alas, and the prosthesis itself is intended for people with some rare genetic eye disease when the retina is underdeveloped. It costs 115 thousand dollars. Once again I repeat, they are not treated with complete blindness, the article is nonsense.

    The article is nonsense - also because even after 10 years such technologies will not be available to everyone and exclusively for a lot of money, well, or on credit, as in one famous Hollywood movie.

    Regarding implant rejection. Cheap body implants are rejected because they are cheap. Biologically neutral implants are made from insanely expensive tantalum, or individually made from special types of equally expensive ceramics. For example, especially pure tantalum, from which knee prostheses are made, for example, costs about 50 thousand dollars.

    In general, progressive medicine will not be available to everyone at any time. Those who have no money - will be treated with "conservative methods" (cut off, remove, etc.), well, or "according to Malakhov," cucumbers. There will be no boom. Everyone wants to live forever. And there will always be people who also want to make big money on this. It is these people who are driving medical technology, not transhumanists. There are no transhumanists among billionaires, and there cannot be by definition.

    A transhumanist can only be a hungry scientist who has managed to sell his brains to a bag of money, "for a higher purpose."
  13. +2
    14 June 2014 17: 35
    flight of thought ... great!
    for flying thinkers: - read, for a start, from the philosophers of our time, at least the gloomy misanthrope Stanislav Lem. at least "Solaris".
    It is time to understand already - man and humanity are not omnipotent, not everything is available to people, not everything they can and something they will never be able to! not everything is knowable, not everything is achievable ... when everything is there - it will not be a man, but God ... or something else. evolution? some science fiction writer had: - "... to replace all organs in a person with artificial ones, more perfect than natural ones ... how to bring to the point of absurdity - instead of a person, a suitcase with buttons ... or it is possible without buttons, .. . yes, and without a suitcase, by and large - that is, without a person!
    prosthetics is one thing, and cyborgization is very, very completely different!
    this is where you come to the idea - thoughts - about God! ... religion is a necessary element of the civilization of intelligent creatures that change the environment IN ITS INTERESTS, but the cyborg has other, inhuman interests ...
  14. +1
    14 June 2014 18: 42
    Quote: vlad-58
    read, for a start, from the philosophers of our time at least the gloomy misanthrope Stanislav Lem. at least "Solaris".

    Or Savashkevich Jacek "We let them fly away" is an interesting story :-)
    "... Atomic heart - people can still forgive this.
    Any other artificial organ, according to the majority, turns
    a person into a kiba, into a lower being. The word "kib" is sometimes used even as
    swearing. However, sometimes cyberization is the only opportunity
    to survive. A man does not always hold his fate in his own hands. Hardly,
    sitting behind the wheel of a Starflush, one can foresee that the car, having barely started,
    fall to pieces because the electrician mixed up the wires on duty
    the controller is not versed in electronics, and the shift inspector has broken
    inspection card without sticking your nose out of the office.
    And after falling from a kilometer altitude, you don’t have to do anything yourself
    solve. Surgeons decide for you. It happens that the patient leaves the hospital,
    preserving only their own - except the brain, of course - the liver, spleen, yes
    part of the digestive tract, and his torso and limbs are cybernized
    eighty percent, so next time he has nothing to lose. Not that
    that poster cadet. Replacing a prosthesis is like a shoe mix.
    - We will prepare you "Starflush" from those on which you studied, -
    said Milady. - The risk is minimal.
    “Well, risk is my part.” But you probably wanted to say that
    guarantee me top quality replacement parts.
    Milady looked at me carefully.
    “Your body,” he said, “does not require so much food and oxygen,”
    as an ordinary mortal organism containing all these slippery and fragile
    disposable appliances. (Here you are, I thought, apotheosis of the kiba!) Yours
    the need for carbohydrates, proteins, oxygen and so on is four times less. Not
    telling you what it means outside the earth.
    (How to distinguish a kiba from an idiot? Let them solve a simple mathematical
    the puzzle. not rattle.)
    - We will watch over you. Squadron "Starfdesh" ...
    “... and cyberservice,” I laughed. - Sorry, commander, it's in me
    the feelings of a wrecked car spoke at the sight of a technical assistance car.
    "
  15. koshh
    +1
    14 June 2014 19: 29
    Just I can’t understand, what is this distracting maneuver? Dear! What are we talking about? And now cyborgs? Already built and implemented in Kiev? Can I guess? Is this Yaytsenyuh? Yes? Or Tyanibokh? No? Or is it really Klitschko? Exactly, a terminator. Everything is fine with them. Only the brains could not be made, and the soul, obviously, never was.
  16. +3
    14 June 2014 20: 15
    You know, I have already seen this, and more than once. This one to one is similar to the situation on our roads! When a person travels a couple of weeks on a fifty-cc buzzer buys a one and a half liter sport bike. Is he able to ride a buzzer? No, he doesn’t know how, his abilities are not enough for this, he didn’t put any effort into it, he didn’t learn anything ... But he believes that he travels poorly, constantly getting into funny and absurd situations, or into really dangerous situations because he lacks iron!
    And so he sits on the fireblade .... In general, there will be corpses, crippled accidents and catastrophes, and nothing else will happen. Why? Because you need to take a more perfect tool when the possibilities of the old have become too small for you. What are we talking about? The fact that not knowing how to use either hands or brains, some bullies stubbornly believe that iron hands and stone brains will make them strong!
    They are dumb like boots, undeveloped and frankly constitute genetic garbage. But they are the masters of the world. In order to be a noticeable value in the world of zeros, that is, in the world of finance, one does not need (and frankly harmful) intelligence and talent. You need to be born first. You can still be born not as right as you would like to be, but be cunning, mean and infinitely cruel. There are many ways, and not one of them leads through the mind, skills, intelligence and hard work.
    In general, I round off. All this was ordered (and apparently will be received) by financial "elites", envious of real knowledge and skills and believing that they can get it all just for money. Wangui - they will not be able to get around the simple American proverb: "everything that money can buy is cheap." But the spectacle promises to be amusing ...
  17. +1
    14 June 2014 20: 17
    Otto Dix ©

    Those who will be after

    There are no boundaries for perfection
    Weakness of will, weakness of the body
    We will eradicate and help
    Liken steel skin
    We will offer you the opportunity
    Overcome any difficulty
    Plunge into the world of bliss
    And achieve perfection

    Chorus:
    We are the ones who will succeed you on earth,
    We are the third eye on the Lord's forehead
    Final deadline countdown
    Utopian dream and the horror of the prophet!

    Mind Has No Border
    Like gold grains
    You have gathered your knowledge
    Put them on the tablets
    Looking to the stars rushed
    Resemblance to God puffed up
    But the fog of self-deception
    Sooner or sooner

    Chorus

    It’s not for nothing that you invested in us
    What you have not achieved
    Your fears and dreams
    Daydreaming Secret Desires
    We are strong and durable.
    We are beautiful, impeccable
    Do not strive to resemble us
    New gods

    Chorus
  18. +4
    14 June 2014 21: 04
    Quote: Stock Officer
    Everything is possible. California was led by the Terminator for several years.

    And even earlier, the governor was a clown who led all the United States for 8 years
  19. 0
    14 June 2014 21: 26
    The fact that in just 30 years people will actively use implants is nonsense. Perhaps they will become what they are described in the article, but their price will drop to an acceptable level even sooooooooooooooooooo

    Regarding "Where is the line that will distinguish a person from a cyborg?"
    I believe that a person remains a person in whatever form he exists. You are a person while you think like a person and even if you are a computer on the table, if you think yourself, then you are a person.
  20. 0
    14 June 2014 21: 45
    Quote: mrDimkaP
    The fact that in just 30 years people will actively use implants is nonsense.

    30 years is even a lot of people who refuse to implant memory expansion gig commercials 16-32-64-128, so many things are right at hand and you don't have to suffer to "remember everything" :-)
  21. Asan Ata
    +1
    14 June 2014 22: 25
    In the United States, 800 thousand hip joints are changed per year. My friend, 63 years old, changed knee joints in Sweden, so this hospital does 30 such operations per day. Conveyor. A friend used to hobble with crutches, now he dances and enjoys life. It’s right, it’s even more correct to grow your own body. Another friend gouged the knee joint, they took a piece of the knee cartilage from him and completely grew it, put it in, glad to shave. But the experiments on managing prostheses are different. We have not yet created an interface for connecting the brain and controlling the prosthesis. The system works like this: a sensor detects an increase in blood flow in a particular area of ​​the brain, which tells him that, say, we need to squeeze an artificial brush, well, it compresses. But it’s like saying, according to the creak of the neighbor’s floorboards, that morning has come. Bullshit, which now helps people with disabilities, but qualitatively it's rubbish. When the decoding of the brain codes appears, when a person can create a contact in these codes, then we'll talk.hi
  22. +1
    14 June 2014 23: 23
    Monkeys with a grenade.
  23. portoc65
    +1
    15 June 2014 00: 21
    PSACA EXACTLY CYBORG..NEW MODEL wassat
  24. +6
    15 June 2014 06: 31
    Quote: portoc65
    PSACA EXACTLY CYBORG..NEW MODEL

    experimental sample))))
  25. 0
    15 June 2014 14: 00
    Hmmm ... "Avatars" controlled from a distance, weapons mounted on a humanoid matrix and controlled by an operator from a cozy warm bunker, unlimited possibilities for travel, work and research without any risk to the fragile protein component ... I've already seen something similar somewhere ... AND! Well, of course! In a wonderful, creepy (and not bad, in general, filmed) dystopia "Surrogates" (2009) with old man Bruce in the title role!
    Comrade Itskov is talking complete nonsense about the availability and mass character of such technologies. Here I changed a high-performance processor cooler for 3 pieces, which exactly a year ago 1000,00 rubles. cost, but this character is broadcasting (I can't find another word) about the full-fledged cyborgization of the brain ... Well, well ... I hope he will continue to master the loot of gullible investors in the project, and not connect to Rusnano or Skolkovo, because such a load of state. the budget will definitely not stand it.

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