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New Russia has a good chance to draw a real statehood. But she will have to fight the traitors in their ranks.

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New Russia has a good chance to draw a real statehood. But she will have to fight the traitors in their ranks.


The new face of the Kiev junta - Chocolate King Poroshenko - found himself in a difficult situation. Russia managed to achieve almost official recognition of Novorossia by European politicians. And Poroshenko returned to his inauguration from France, having experienced almost ultimatum pressure from European leaders.

So, having withstood the first battles of the civil war without Russian assistance, Novorossia secured for itself the status of an indispensable party to any negotiation process to resolve the conflict. This status is not yet international recognition (for the time being, full recognition is difficult to count on). But this is almost a recognition of the actual state of affairs. From now on, the punitive operation of the Kiev junta is not an internal affair of the once-existing state of Ukraine, but a conflict that has two sides.

The coup d'état in Ukraine was organized by the United States in their own geopolitical interests. The European Union, with its hasty attempt to sign an association agreement with the pre-bankrupt state, acted as only a tool of American politics. But any master does the work in their own interests, and not in the interests of the tools used. And it is not surprising that the politicians of the least dependent European countries are not always ready for nailing them into a box, into which, perhaps, they will put them all later.

The USA would arrange Ukraine’s entry into NATO, paid for by Europe. In case of failure of this plan, it also arranges bloody chaos, which Russia must inevitably be drawn into. However, it cannot be said that these scenarios will suit all European “partners” of the USA. Therefore, it should not be surprising that at the celebration of the opening of the second front, all American initiatives to isolate Russia were so pointedly and frankly torpedoed by European politicians. And the president of the United States, representing the state that played the main role in the event being celebrated, turned out to be in the role of a spectator, chewing away his chewing gum. Obama's opinion and the opinion of his country on the most urgent issue of modern European politics was not very interesting to anyone. Europe is looking for a way out of the situation in which it turned out to be thanks to the efforts of the Americans. Europe does not need a protracted and large-scale conflict on its borders. And since the United States has too clearly shown that they are not interested in appeasing the civil war, which is raging in Ukraine, it means that Europe will look for another force interested in the world, able to establish and secure it.

At the moment, the United States, it seems, has achieved an intermediate, but very important goal. The Americans managed to give a more legitimate look to their junta in Ukraine by holding a farce called the nationwide election. The junta even had a new face - like a legitimate president. However, further actions, seemingly long ago voiced and agreed upon, no longer meet with support from the closest allies of the United States. After the elections, the Kiev junta has carte blanche for new political repression and new attempts to suppress the uprising (even in case of failure, they are in the interests of the United States). But Russia's intervention was supposed to meet a condemnable condemnation of “progressive humanity”, a wave of sanctions (contrary to the interests of Europe itself), and economic and political isolation. The United States would receive a justification for strengthening the military presence on the borders of Russia, as well as a visible embodiment of the threat requiring the development of a missile defense system. Russia would have received an unnecessary war with a part of its own people until recently, the failure of integration of the post-Soviet space, the weakening of foreign economic relations, military and political pressure, the cessation of the growth of foreign policy weight. It would seem that the weakening of the key geopolitical adversary is as close as ever.

But, as often happens with Americans, something went wrong. At first, Russia does not send troops in response to monstrous provocations, does not recognize the independence of Novorossia, and even demonstratively declares the desired integrity of the former Ukraine. Then he does not react at all to Poroshenko’s “election” by the president of the former Ukraine. He does not make loud statements on the dubious procedure of the “election”, does not refuse to contact the Kiev authorities. Putin even meets personally with the new face of the Kiev junta, thereby indirectly recognizing his power. Instead of the triumphant transformation of Russia into a pariah for "progressive humanity" at the celebration of the opening of the second front - European leaders line up for an audience with the Russian president. And defiantly denied the Americans in all announced initiatives on sanctions.

And even more. Initially, the sly position of the West to end the Ukrainian conflict, which previously consisted in disarming rebellious Novorossia, suddenly turns into Russian-European pressure on Poroshenko in order to force him into dialogue with Novorossia.

The result of this pressure is an emergency change in inaugural speech. From these changes, the speech itself becomes full of contradictions and looks more like confirmation of promises issued to all in a row. Moreover, most of the promises - just impossible. So “the return of the Crimea” is clearly designed for an internal nationalist audience. And the solemn proclamation of the unitary structure of Ukraine directly contradicts the statement about the beginning of the process of decentralization of power. Even less correlated with the slogans about “one and indivisible” - the promise to hold “early local elections in the Donbas to form dialogue partners”.

Yes, Poroshenko was forced to start a real dialogue with Novorossia in Normandy. In fact, this means that the new leader of the junta must sit down at the negotiating table and recognize the representatives of Novorossia as an equal party to the conflict. Just as Putin recognized him as a man with whom you can talk about something. And indeed, by recognizing something that the national elections were supposed to represent in Ukraine, we got one side, which is now responsible for what is happening. While the power in Novorossia is not yet formed and is less legally legitimate than the Kiev junta.

This was a problem for Russia. Now the problem of registration of the statehood of New Russia can be solved. Moreover, the procedure of this design will have to be recognized by the Kiev junta. Let Poroshenko hopes that "early local elections in the Donbass" can be organized in Kiev. He was only required to confirm consent. The real organization will deal with other people. And to prevent this process will not work. After all, his other promise made by Merkel, Hollande and Putin, namely, "... We have to cease fire this week," will have to fulfill. And Obama has nothing to say here. After all, he is for peace and dialogue? Well, let him chew his cud.

However, the United States and the European Commission were able to respond to Russia in another direction of the European "theater of military operations." The suspension of work on the South Stream is Russia's obvious revenge for the failure in the Ukrainian issue. And it is significant that the pressure on Poroshenko was helped by the heads of two national states, and the pressure on Bulgaria and Serbia - by US representatives in cooperation with the European Commission, which is a supranational body of European power.

All this does not mean that a tactical victory in a long battle for Ukraine has already been won. Russia must insist on fulfilling the promises of the Kiev side (good, there is now someone to ask). And not by single statements, but by joint work with Germany and France. The first task is precisely the cease-fire.

After a cease-fire is achieved, the second task will be the organization of humanitarian and organizational assistance to Novorossia. It is also advisable to involve representatives of international organizations for this work.

However, we must not forget that the statehood of New Russia is in its infancy. On the side of the militia there are traitors and provocateurs. And our assistance in organizing legitimate authorities will be complicated by their subversive activities. Almost certainly, they will be used in the coming days to help Poroshenko not to fulfill the cease-fire commitment. This is not about fools who put personal ambitions above a common cause. Several self-defense units were formed by these traitors, who at the right time will act on orders from Kiev. Some armed detachments formally on the side of the uprising will have to be outlawed. Distinguish traitors will be easy, because they weapon - provocations and actions aimed at aggravating the conflict. That is how they will show their true face.
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  1. Angolaforever
    Angolaforever 12 June 2014 14: 29
    +9
    I apologize, but which European leaders recognized Novorossia, can be more specific? And then the article got the impression that the author gives out his desires for reality. One must be objective in these difficult times.
    1. FANTOM-72
      FANTOM-72 12 June 2014 14: 56
      +5
      Quote: angolaforever
      I apologize, but which European leaders recognized Novorossia, can be more specific?

      his promise to Merkel, Hollande and Putin, namely, "... We must cease fire this week," will have to be fulfilled.

      More specific.
      Yes, Poroshenko was forced to start a real dialogue with New Russia in Normandy. In fact, this means that the new leader of the junta should sit at the negotiating table and recognize the representatives of New Russia as an equal party to the conflict.

      Objective is not where.
      And Obama has nothing to object to. After all, is he for peace and dialogue? Well, let him chew his chewing gum.
      1. voldmis
        voldmis 12 June 2014 16: 48
        +5
        First, the junta’s troops must be expelled from New Russia ... This is at least
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 13 June 2014 02: 25
        0
        Quote: FANTOM-72
        his promise to Merkel, Hollande and Putin, namely, "... We must cease fire this week," will have to be fulfilled.
        More specific.

        Really! .. That's just the promise it was made in Normandy - BEFORE official assumption of office. So - you can wipe this promise.
        Quote: FANTOM-72
        Yes, Poroshenko was forced to start a real dialogue with New Russia in Normandy. In fact, this means that the new leader of the junta should sit at the negotiating table and recognize the representatives of New Russia as an equal party to the conflict.
        Objective is not where.

        In fact, this, again, does not mean anything: Parashkin can always provoke an escalation of hostilities, accusing the "separatists" of provocation, and continue the war "to victory." At the same time, there will be strikebreakers in the Donbass with whom it will be possible to draw up a "ceasefire agreement", and the militias at the international level may be declared "outlawed" altogether! After that, with the use of heavy weapons, you can generally not stand on ceremony.
      3. avia1991
        avia1991 13 June 2014 02: 27
        0
        Quote: FANTOM-72
        More specific.

        And by the way: SO WHAT LEADERS RECOGNIZED NOVOROSSIA? .. The question sounded like this, sir ..
    2. Vlad Gore
      Vlad Gore 12 June 2014 16: 39
      +1
      I apologize, but which European leaders recognized Novorossia, can be more specific? And then the article got the impression that the author gives out his desires for reality. One must be objective in these difficult times.
      New Russia was recognized as a party to the conflict. Yes
  2. Gagarin
    Gagarin 12 June 2014 14: 39
    +4
    And who has already begun to recognize New Russia?
    Lukashenko, well, for a very long time and in a friendly way, shook hands with the junta president, maybe the author had this in mind ?!
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 12 June 2014 14: 57
      -1
      TFR filed a case against the junta in fact something there on the territory of the DNI and LC.
    2. FANTOM-72
      FANTOM-72 12 June 2014 15: 03
      +3
      Quote: Gagarin
      very strong and friendly for a long time shook hands

      Very strong and for a long time does not mean friendly. Sometimes the client shrinks from such handshakes.
    3. N.Zero
      N.Zero 12 June 2014 15: 59
      -1
      Quote: Gagarin
      Lukashenko, well, a very strong and friendly long shook hands with the president of the junta

      But father tried on ... yak budze to shackle Parashenka handcuffed when Putin appoints him the hetman of Ukraine ... wassat
    4. Sirocco
      Sirocco 12 June 2014 16: 56
      +7
      Quote: Gagarin
      Lukashenko shook hands with the president of the junta very strongly and in a friendly way for a long time,

      Compared to the Bulgarian and Serbian "brothers" who once again sold Russia, Belarus always keeps up with Russia. Do not go to the blind, Old Man understands that he and his people will be next if the Ukrainian scenario goes according to the US plan. And the "brothers" from Bulgaria and Serbia should be ashamed. When the rooster bites them in a familiar place, they will again be drawn to Russia. But as folk wisdom says, "One who betrayed one day will betray more than once"
  3. sem-yak
    sem-yak 12 June 2014 14: 40
    +9
    That's so much nicer!
    1. smoker
      smoker 12 June 2014 22: 52
      +1
      And it will be even more pleasant for residents!
  4. sv68
    sv68 12 June 2014 15: 32
    +3
    It remains only to hope one hundred the process of the collapse of ukroiny will not be spoiled, and we will dance at the funeral of Kiev fascist nippers
  5. Andrew K
    Andrew K 12 June 2014 15: 47
    -2
    The author is clearly an optimist. He also, like many, believes that Putin has a plan. Meanwhile, in Normandy, the Europeans managed to achieve Putin's recognition of the results of the presidential elections in Ukraine, while Russia, as always, remained deaf. The author speaks about the inadmissibility of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. At the same time, he does not consider the situation in Ukraine itself, where the majority of the people consider Russia the enemy number one and support the ATO policy in the southeast of Ukraine. And it is not necessary to enter into open conflict. You can, for a start, at least admit the fact of genocide against peaceful citizens of Ukraine at the state level. duma and council of the federation, institution of international criminal cases on war crimes in Ukraine, provision of green corridors for refugees and humanitarian aid. In the meantime, Russia will continue to issue some statements, the West will simply "close its ears."
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 June 2014 15: 56
      +2
      Quote: Andrei K
      In the meantime, Russia will continue to issue some statements, the West will simply "close its ears."

      Do not tell! The West has already begun to declare a completely different
      Merkel: Good relations with the EU mean friendship with Russia
      German Chancellor Angela Merkel believes that Ukraine needs a complete ceasefire to carry out the planned reforms. “We all want the shooting to stop there. Only after that will the new Ukrainian President be able to focus on carrying out the necessary reforms,” Merkel said at a traditional reception for the diplomatic corps.

      "We must do everything possible to justify the hopes for a new beginning," - said the German Chancellor.

      This requires the strengthening of the rule of law and the observance of human rights, the preservation of the territorial integrity of Ukraine and economic development. In this "Herculean work", Merkel promised the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko to help Germany.

      She also again called on Moscow to help stabilize the situation in Ukraine.

      The German Chancellor once again emphasized that Europe stands for dialogue with Russia. According to her, the Eastern Partnership program with such countries as Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia is definitely not directed against Russia. "Building good relations with the EU implies good relations with Russia," Merkel said.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-147563.html
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 12 June 2014 16: 18
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Merkel: Good relations with the EU mean friendship with Russia
        You can be friends in different ways. This we have already passed.
        Quote: Egoza
        She also again called on Moscow to help stabilize the situation in Ukraine.
        So Moscow promotes, it is silent, it bargains, declares, calls. By the way, Merkel also calls. But this, dear Lena, does not mean that they will do something. They all want to live.
        1. Grbear
          Grbear 12 June 2014 16: 36
          +1
          baltika-18

          In politics, abrupt movements cause "bewilderment" and rejection. The vector is important. And it does not change immediately. Good reasons are needed. For example, Merkel got a hit in her field and changed her rhetoric. Oland, through clenched teeth, but gives to Mistral. And "Uncle Black Sam" chews nervously (I suspect his tongue). Serbs, Bulgarians and Balts are actively and dangerously attacking. Let's beware. Something like this.
      2. Andrew K
        Andrew K 12 June 2014 16: 27
        +2
        Merkel was famous for statements about stabilizing the situation in Ukraine before (even Lavrov quoted her). Only after talking with Obama did she change course again. In general, wait and see, I would like to believe that everything will be decided quickly and with the least sacrifices.
    2. tank64rus
      tank64rus 12 June 2014 18: 59
      +2
      Not certainly in that way. In Berlin, 40 thousand Germans came out in defense of Novorossiii with the anthem of Russia. Therefore, Frau Merkel will have to open her ears, she, as a former Komsomol member, knows how this can end and she will not give a damn about fulfilling her obligations to the United States.
    3. tank64rus
      tank64rus 12 June 2014 18: 59
      0
      Not certainly in that way. In Berlin, 40 thousand Germans came out in defense of Novorossiii with the anthem of Russia. Therefore, Frau Merkel will have to open her ears, she, as a former Komsomol member, knows how this can end and she will not give a damn about fulfilling her obligations to the United States.
    4. Fish supervision
      Fish supervision 12 June 2014 20: 34
      0
      Enemy number zero, you crow again about yours, 5 columns are dumbfounded, lick the heels of Fashington, do not meddle with us am
  6. pOpolzen
    pOpolzen 12 June 2014 15: 56
    +7
    Recognition of Novorossiya is not happening de jure, but de facto, gradually, but Euriks are beginning to understand how all this "mess" can end for them not scared.
    Even CNN already writes about Slavyansk (which was born and raised in Slavyansk), half-truth for now, but that's already something. The process is only gaining momentum - everything is in front.
    May God give strength to the New Russia.
  7. Trinity
    Trinity 12 June 2014 15: 56
    -4
    I agree with you, but learn grammar and work on bugs. Sorry, but it’s not nice to read the comments of an adult who has grammatical errors at the elementary school level.
    1. World Cup 2014
      World Cup 2014 12 June 2014 19: 56
      0
      You follow your mistakes and do not teach others
  8. boomerang.
    boomerang. 12 June 2014 16: 05
    +2
    http://silver2013.livejournal.com/61259.html
    ... 5 regions of Ukraine were given to Shell and Chevron for 50 years with the right to renew!
    We made a map on them in order to understand what exactly in the document is meant by the words of the Contracted Plot. It turned out that this is a territory mainly of Donetsk and Kharkov regions with an area of ​​7.886 square kilometers.
    It completely includes the fairly large cities of Slavyansk, Izyum, Barvenkovo, a huge piece of Kramatorsk, part of Druzhkovka and Balakliya, as well as dozens and hundreds of smaller settlements.
    Here is a list of only the largest of them: Gusarovka, Savintsy, Chervonny Oskol, Krasny Liman, Seversk, Yasnogorka, Avdeevka, Krasnogorovka, Orlovka, Kamyshevka, Novogrigorovka, Novonikolaevka, Toretskoye, Aleksandrovka, Novoaleksandrovka, Ocheretino, Petrovskoye, Shakhiryonkhevy, Velikaya Kamyshevy Petrovskoe.
    Alas, their inhabitants do not even realize that from the 24 of January to the 2013 of the year their property no longer belongs to them.
    If Shell declares that there may be shale gas beneath your house, business, garden, or wheat field, you will be required to sell your property to the British at the price they offer. If the proposed price does not suit you, the state is obliged to seize your property by force and transfer it to Shell.
    Already without any compensation. That is, stupidly, out of control, to kick you out of an apartment, a summer residence, an office, a farm. The whole cynicism of the situation is not even in the gangster methods prescribed in the agreement with Shell, but in the fact that the British will “compensate for the territory” by the state at the expense of the extracted gas: “Such costs are included in the Costs Subject to Compensation”.
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 12 June 2014 16: 52
      +5
      Creepy, "convincing" and hot! But "duck". If only because agreements of this level are approved in the Rada. Therefore, infa would have "rustled" long ago. And as stated, it is a bomb. Something similar was about the lease of land by the Chinese, but without continuing. I agree, there are and will be Wishlist. But for their implementation it is necessary to "lower" Ukraine below Burkina Faso (and who is this?).

      You (-) for rotten game.
  9. Matroskin 18
    Matroskin 18 12 June 2014 16: 15
    +2
    It will not be difficult to distinguish traitors, because their weapons are provocations and actions aimed at exacerbating the conflict. That is how they will show their true face.

    It should also be taken into account that Strelkov is a counterintelligence agent in the past. I will not be surprised that his countermeasures will work ahead of the curve, perhaps they will even send provocateurs in the right direction! It happens!
  10. wbigfire
    wbigfire 12 June 2014 16: 21
    +2
    For international recognition, Novorossia turned to recognized and unrecognized countries only yesterday. Therefore, the article deals with the informal recognition of Novorossiya as a subject of negotiations with the Ukrainian authorities. This very fact is already a prerequisite for de facto recognition.
  11. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 12 June 2014 16: 22
    +2
    I think there is NO turning back! After the announcement of the filtration camps - only INDEPENDENCE. Everyone will understand, everyone will support.
  12. Giant thought
    Giant thought 12 June 2014 16: 56
    +2
    New Russia should be an independent subject of international law. De facto and de jure. And Russia should help her in this.
  13. nils
    nils 12 June 2014 17: 12
    +2
    But is it possible to join Russia to New Russia?
  14. djqnbdjqnb
    djqnbdjqnb 12 June 2014 17: 30
    +2
    Several detachments of self-defense were formed by real traitors who, at the right moment, would act on orders from Kiev. Some armed units formally standing on the side of the uprising - will have to be outlawed

    Unfortunately, it looks like the author is right. I got the same impression. Some oddities are striking, in particular, why is it Slavyansk that they hammer the most? Why are the punishers so passive in the Luhansk region? There are many other questions. I add to the article, although I do not agree with all the statements. In particular, why, after shaking hands with the powder, did Putin seem to recognize him? Admitted nothing. Note that in his speeches he never called him president - only "Mr. Poroshenko." Although for him and a citizen is a lot
  15. sabakina
    sabakina 12 June 2014 18: 20
    +5
    Mdya ... Already use white phosphorus. What tomorrow? Will the nuclear charge be pulled up?
  16. regul002
    regul002 12 June 2014 20: 42
    +1
    How ami and the Eurospan want to drag us into the war room. The struggle of the Russian population of the Southeast for language, self-determination, etc. in the European media is given out as the Russian occupation of Ukraine. They say the Russians came and kill the Ukrainians, and so no less. A simple European citizen has zero reliable information. But autumn is getting closer and closer and winter is following it ... Europe understands this and as a result they will spit on them and they themselves will ask us to restore order in Ukraine. Then everything will come up, and Odessa and Mariupol and Slavyansk and we will rule the ball. The main thing now is not in a hurry (!)
  17. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 12 June 2014 21: 28
    0
    The author, of course, is a dreamer in something, but Ukraine, as a state, never existed (with the exception of the troubled times) and of course all the lands watered with Russian blood will return to square one. But the separatists: Kravchuk, Tymoshenko, Yushchenko, Poroshenko and our Gaidarites are in the dock.
  18. Serg93
    Serg93 12 June 2014 23: 46
    0
    Quote: bumerang.
    http://silver2013.livejournal.com/61259.html
    ... 5 regions of Ukraine were given to Shell and Chevron for 50 years with the right to renew!
    We made a map on them in order to understand what exactly in the document is meant by the words of the Contracted Plot. It turned out that this is a territory mainly of Donetsk and Kharkov regions with an area of ​​7.886 square kilometers.
    It completely includes the fairly large cities of Slavyansk, Izyum, Barvenkovo, a huge piece of Kramatorsk, part of Druzhkovka and Balakliya, as well as dozens and hundreds of smaller settlements.
    Here is a list of only the largest of them: Gusarovka, Savintsy, Chervonny Oskol, Krasny Liman, Seversk, Yasnogorka, Avdeevka, Krasnogorovka, Orlovka, Kamyshevka, Novogrigorovka, Novonikolaevka, Toretskoye, Aleksandrovka, Novoaleksandrovka, Ocheretino, Petrovskoye, Shakhiryonkhevy, Velikaya Kamyshevy Petrovskoe.
    Alas, their inhabitants do not even realize that from the 24 of January to the 2013 of the year their property no longer belongs to them.
    If Shell declares that there may be shale gas beneath your house, business, garden, or wheat field, you will be required to sell your property to the British at the price they offer. If the proposed price does not suit you, the state is obliged to seize your property by force and transfer it to Shell.
    Already without any compensation. That is, stupidly, out of control, to kick you out of an apartment, a summer residence, an office, a farm. The whole cynicism of the situation is not even in the gangster methods prescribed in the agreement with Shell, but in the fact that the British will “compensate for the territory” by the state at the expense of the extracted gas: “Such costs are included in the Costs Subject to Compensation”.

    Well this proves that they simply do not need Slavyansk as a city !!! The less there will be residents, then there’s no need to buy anything from anyone !!! Get gas for your pleasure !!!
  19. avia1991
    avia1991 13 June 2014 02: 40
    0
    The article is entirely speculation and daydreaming, not supported by real facts - well, directly, as we often write in the comments here! wink
    Here it is, for example:
    After all, his other promise, given to Merkel, Hollande and Putin, namely, "... We must cease fire this week," will have to be fulfilled. And Obama has nothing to object to. After all, is he for peace and dialogue? Well, let him chew his chewing gum.

    sooo touched by the hopes of the author! He promised - and so what ?! And then: "we must" is not "WE WILL STOP"! As they say, feel the difference! And if you recall that this promise was given to the elected - but not yet inaugurated "President" Parashkin, it remains only to get rid of vain illusions: he is not going to do anything of the kind.
    Well and further on in the text .. there are many questions, I will not paint on the whole sheet.
    Not a minus - since, like, malicious intent, in order to undermine New Russia, is not seen what , but there’s nothing to put a plus in my opinion.
  20. tokens2
    tokens2 13 June 2014 05: 14
    0
    New Russia recognized the Russian? -Russian people? Yes.
    And the rest is a matter of time and skill.
    No one in the world will openly throw a glove to the Russian people, it is fraught.
    For they understand that otherwise - their own peoples can mature for a serious conversation with the powerful but already around the world.
    New Russia will break a lot of international stereotypes.
  21. Baitly
    Baitly 13 June 2014 05: 33
    0
    Putin is great, he’s doing everything right, it’s good that he has enough patience and endurance. Hurry is good you know when.
    I think that by the winter everything will calm down and everyone will see an excellent result.

    Something upset American monkey tongue
  22. Magadan
    Magadan 13 June 2014 07: 18
    0
    ATTENTION!

    Bandera creatures in Moscow. Type of rally near the Raddison Hotel.
    here is the video: http://www.kontrtube.ru/videos/2822/vnimanie-banderovcy-v-rossii/

    I saved their faces.
    I wonder if they are ready to suffer for their "faith"? Let me remind you: their "brothers" right-sectarian not only cripple those who disagree with them with a crowd (if the unarmed, of course, cannot give back), but they also burn the defenseless ... I hope these local spill maydauns understand that they should be treated the same way be deprived of some kind of "freedom of speech" and "tolerance" ?!
    Those who communicate with me have already understood that a "peaceful and mutually respectful" debate on the topic of "good Ukrop junta" is impossible.
    I really hope that the Bandera scum in Moscow will be adequately punished (by itself without the participation of the state) ..... of course, exclusively by verbal methods (in no case do I call for other methods, because I respect the laws of the Russian Federation in the field of the Internet: )