Russian Navy is ready to accept the newest submarine

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At the very end of 2013, representatives of the Ministry of Defense signed an acceptance certificate for the K-560 Severodvinsk multipurpose nuclear submarine. The lead ship of the project 885 "Ash" was accepted for trial operation, which, according to statements of that time, was supposed to last several months. A few days ago it became known that in the very near future the nuclear submarine “Severodvinsk” will enter the combat structure of the naval fleet Russia and begin its service.



RIA News citing a source in the defense industry reported that a solemn flag raising ceremony on the Severodvinsk submarine, during which it will officially join the Northern Fleet, is scheduled for June 17. The events will be held at the Sevmash plant in Severodvinsk. Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov, General Director of the Malachite SPMBM (organization-developer of the submarine) Vladimir Dorofeev and other officials will take part in the ceremony.

The adoption of the submarine "Severodvinsk" in the military composition of the Navy will be the point in the protracted construction of the epic and refinement of the head of the newest submarine project. The first nuclear submarine of the 885 “Ash” project was laid back in December of the 1993 year, but due to financial problems over the next few years, the pace of construction left much to be desired. The situation changed only in the mid-2000s, when it became possible to resume financing the project in the required amounts. The submarine "Severodvinsk" was withdrawn from the slipway in the middle of June 2010, and launched after a few days. In September 2011, the submarine first went to sea for sea trials.

Tests of the head "Ash" continued until November 2013 of the year. During this time, the submarine made 14 sailing for a total duration of more than 220 days. During the tests, several tens of thousands of nautical miles were completed and more than a hundred dives and ascents were made. The factory and state tests, which lasted more than two years, allowed to confirm the declared characteristics of the submarine, as well as to reveal a large number of existing shortcomings, which were eliminated in the process of refining.

30 December last year, the acceptance act was signed, after which the submarine Severodvinsk was put into trial operation. According to unofficial sources, by this time the submarine has retained some of the flaws, which was the reason for its acceptance not into the fleet's combat strength, but into trial operation. After the signing of the act, different dates were announced for the submarine acceptance into service of the Northern Fleet, from January to autumn 2014. Recent reports suggest that all the necessary work has been completed and the nuclear submarine Severodvinsk is ready to begin full service.

Currently, the construction of two new Yasen-type boats is underway in the workshops of the Sevmash enterprise. The Kazan and Novosibirsk submarines are at different stages of construction, they will be accepted into the Navy over the next few years. It should be noted, two new submarines are built on the updated project 885М. It took into account the experience gained during the construction and testing of the Severodvinsk submarine. In addition, Kazan and Novosibirsk receive updated equipment based on domestic components. In July of this year, the laying of the fourth "Ash" - the submarine "Krasnoyarsk" will take place.

In total, it is planned to build 2020 multi-purpose submarines of 8 and 885 projects before 885. The task of these submarines will be to patrol specified areas and launch missiles at ships or ground targets of the enemy. For this purpose, the submarines are equipped with eight modules of the CM-346 launcher, designed to launch several types of missiles. Ammunition submarines of the project "Ash" may include missiles P-800 "Onyx" and "Caliber" of various types. Maximum ammunition - 32 missiles.

To attack enemy ships and submarines, the latest submarines will also be able to use torpedo tubes. Five torpedo tubes of caliber 533 mm are installed on the sides of the submarine with a shift to its middle part. This original placement of torpedo tubes is due to the use of the large main antenna of the Irtysh-Amfora hydroacoustic complex, under which the entire nose of the hull is given.

In the near future, multipurpose submarines of the 885 and 885М projects, capable of striking surface and ground targets at distances up to 500 kilometers, will become a tool to deter potential adversaries. In accordance with the latest plans of the fleet command, multi-purpose submarines and non-nuclear submarines carrying high-precision missile weapons will be one of the main elements of the strategic non-nuclear deterrence system.

Inclusion of the new Severodvinsk nuclear submarine into the combat strength of the Northern Fleet will be the first serious step towards the creation of a non-nuclear deterrent group in the Navy. In addition, the new submarine to some extent will increase the potential of the Northern Fleet. The flag raising ceremony on the newest submarine is scheduled for June 17. When the submarine will go to the place of service is still unknown.


On the materials of the sites:
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  1. +17
    12 June 2014 07: 40
    Well, as they say, seven feet under the keel! and so that the number of dives of the submarine is equal to the number of floats!
    1. +12
      12 June 2014 07: 50
      video in the topic.
      1. +2
        12 June 2014 15: 09
        And after such news on the STATE TV channel, local patriots declare that the Americans are always praising their equipment, and our types do everything in silence, because "good does not need advertising."
      2. recruit6666
        -2
        14 June 2014 10: 02
        The ammunition of the submarine of the Ash project may include P-800 Onyx and Caliber missiles of various types. The maximum ammunition load is 32 missiles.

        Wow!!!!!!


        the submarine Ohio. Armament: up to 154 Tomahok cruise missiles

        Source: http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/102 © "Modern Army" portal
        1. 0
          17 June 2014 21: 53
          What about the fact that "Ohio" and "Ash" are different types of nuclear submarines? If "Shark" were converted from SSBN to SSGN, then there would be not 154 CD, but 200-220.
          1. oleg34
            +1
            18 June 2014 02: 57
            Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
            If the "Shark" were to be converted from SSBN into SSGN, then there would be not 154 CD, but 200-220.

            Bummer
            Sharks have fewer mines - 20 versus 24 in Ohio
            KR will be less
            Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
            What about the fact that "Ohio" and "Ash" are different types of nuclear submarines?

            But they perform similar tasks (we are talking about Ohio converted to SSGN).
            amerskiy option is more effective

            By the way, starting from Block 5, the multipurpose Virginia submarines will carry 52 Tomahawks - 12 in the nose mines and another 40 in VPM (Virginia Payload Module)

            Virginia and Ash - boats of the same class and destination
  2. +9
    12 June 2014 07: 58
    Krasava !!! Seven feet under the keel.
  3. +1
    12 June 2014 08: 38
    And what can an Amerian aircraft carrier do with such a boat? If you have time, of course. laughing
    1. +4
      12 June 2014 10: 29
      The aircraft carrier itself is nothing, but a PLO helicopter or a security submarine can.
    2. -5
      12 June 2014 15: 10
      And what can this boat do with ... AH-64 Apache helicopter?
      1. +2
        12 June 2014 15: 27
        And what can an Apache oppose to a nuclear submarine?
        1. 0
          14 June 2014 13: 56
          Judging by the minuses, my post was not understood, I specifically responded stupidly to stupidity. The aircraft carrier is not designed to combat nuclear submarines, although in principle it can perform this task with the help of PLO helicopters.
          Then I will rephrase my post - what will Ash do with the aircraft carrier’s PLO helicopters?
      2. 0
        12 June 2014 17: 43
        And how she cooks !!! good
  4. +6
    12 June 2014 08: 41
    Of course there are problems in the army, but the fact that the situation is improving is a fact! winked And the adoption of such a submarine only confirms this
    1. oleg34
      -3
      13 June 2014 03: 15
      Quote: Bubyr
      but the fact that the situation is improving is a fact!

      No.
      Quote: Bubyr
      And the adoption of such a submarine only confirms this

      She (K-560, formerly K-329) began to cost in 1993 and have been trying to "take it into operation" for the last 5 years since its launch (to create the illusion of "getting up from her knees", even on the sly the number was changed in 2012) ... To the joyful whoop of urya patriots

      However, the sailors are not in a hurry to accept this defective unfinished construction - during the last attempt in December 2013, the boat was only put into trial operation with the promise to fix all the identified 200 defects, and this is after 20 years of construction and testing!

      In fact, for all 14 years of the Putin era, not a single multi-purpose nuclear submarine was built
      only accepted into operation in 2001, the submarine "Gepard" was built in the 90s
      and are trying to push through the ineffective "Severodvinsk"
      1. +4
        13 June 2014 20: 32
        Firstly, it’s not 20, but 18 years, and this is the period from laying to the first launch at sea! And from these 18 years it was built around 10, the rest of the time from 1996 to the middle of the zero years, the project was completed in the zero years, and created essentially a new-885M. Remarks on new boats are common, since you have the American flag, do you not know that Sea Wolf went on first duty after 4 years after commissioning, and Virginia did so through 5, if I’m not mistaken. And not defects, but remarks! And there were them at the end of the 13 year that were not closed around 80-ty! So h a blizzard is not necessary here for revenge!
      2. +1
        14 June 2014 20: 55
        You won’t believe it, but in 2012, 2011, 2010, and even scared to think, in 2009 it was the K-560, the crews were also called. T.ch. Your infa is not entirely correct, but it does not affect the depth of the dive and the course of the pl.
        K - 329 is a slightly different "steamer" and a project too ...
        People are making combat ready, i.e. crew. If they manage to supply NSR with cancer during the delivery of the ship and do not agree to any deal with industry, then everything will be just fine. The last phrase is IMHO.
  5. 0
    12 June 2014 08: 45
    In total, until 2020 it is planned to build 8 multipurpose nuclear submarines of projects 885 and 885M.

    I do not want to be a pessimist, but will they succeed ??? Wikipedia says that the bookmark of some submarines is scheduled only for 2018-2019.
    1. +1
      12 June 2014 13: 29
      Wikipedia is the source of last resort?)
      Of course they won’t have time, they will go en masse only in the area of ​​the 20's.
      This year, 1 is being laid, well, and the next 3. Yes, and the bookmark doesn’t mean anything, I know for sure that the 50 building is already being assembled in the 4 shop, and Prince Vladimir generally began to build 3 years before the bookmark.
    2. +1
      12 June 2014 13: 29
      And you believe more Wikipedia ...
  6. 0
    12 June 2014 08: 46
    By the way, who knows, what about the missiles to her? About Caliber and Onyx, everything is clear (except for their range), but what about the X-101/102? Or can you not wait?
    1. 0
      12 June 2014 10: 08
      And I, for something, about the torpedo armament became incomprehensible: "five 533 mm torpedo tubes are installed on the sides of the submarine with a shift towards its middle part." Five per board, or five in total? Some kind of garbage. According to the site http://www.deepstorm.ru/ - eight 530mm and 650mm. torpedo tubes (most likely 6 - 530mm, 2 - 650mm, 4 + 1 side-board). BUT five ....!?
      1. +4
        12 June 2014 11: 19
        Five on the port side, five on the port side. Plus 8 more vertical launching shafts, 4 Onyx or Caliber are intermeddle each. Total: 10 torpedo tubes, 32 Caliber or Onyx missiles. (by the way, launches of the above missiles are possible through torpedo tubes) wink
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    4. 0
      12 June 2014 10: 22
      X-101/102 is actually an aviation complex, like Tu-95.
      1. 0
        12 June 2014 11: 21
        There was infa that they make it universal - for Carcasses, and for Ashen, and possibly (in the future) for surface cruisers. I want to believe smile
  7. jjj
    0
    12 June 2014 09: 48
    And Vladimir Vladimirovich visited Arkhangelsk a week before this event. I looked at the diamond quarry, talked with university students.
  8. +5
    12 June 2014 10: 34
    How did d-o-o-o-lgo wait for this ...
    1. +1
      12 June 2014 12: 36
      But how priya-i-i-i-t hear that they are finally surrendering to the navy! I hope that the creators themselves are happy "like elephants" ....
  9. +1
    12 June 2014 10: 52
    Beer! Friends, maybe one of you can tell us about target designation systems for the P-800 Onyx and Caliber missiles?
    1. 0
      12 June 2014 11: 23
      You can be guided with the help of a reconnaissance aircraft - as long as there are practically none, but it will be based on the Il-20. Theoretically, it could be a modernized aircraft AWACS A-50U, also deck-mounted helicopters Ka-31.
      Assistance in target designation will be able to provide satellite guidance systems ("Pion"), well, and their own detection systems for nuclear submarines.
  10. +3
    12 June 2014 12: 20
    Tests after raising the flag will continue, so do not flatter yourself, this is more a political step.
  11. +6
    12 June 2014 12: 56
    Hard work is going on. Too much was lost in the 90s during the reign of drunken Boris and young “democrats.” But there will be good, so more optimism. Rogozin is constantly on the road, the army is on the rise. Brother is in the army, constantly at the training grounds. Everything will be a bunch.
  12. +2
    12 June 2014 13: 50
    The main thing is that there is a submarine, here it is alive, ready for military use, if necessary. And other submarines on the way, so we will look to the future with a certain degree of optimism.
  13. MSA
    MSA
    0
    12 June 2014 14: 18
    Good news, seven feet under the keel.
  14. +6
    12 June 2014 14: 36
    without a strong fleet, Russia would not become a world-class power ... Keep it up and God forbid not for the last time
  15. w2000
    +3
    12 June 2014 16: 29
    As our journalists love words: the latest, unique, unparalleled in the world. This boat began to be developed back in 1977 under Brezhnev, and they were not riveted in the late 80s, the planned 30 pieces in connection with the Gorbachev perestroika. Then, in the early 90s, the project was modernized, but the only boat laid down hovered due to lack of funding. Some parts of the hull and units are borrowed from cannibalized boats of the 60s. Of course, the country would not have pulled a new project from scratch, and the boat needed to be completed. But to say that the boat is the newest is somewhat incorrect
    1. 0
      12 June 2014 18: 08
      As our journalists love words: the newest, unique, unparalleled in the world.
      I advise you to pay less attention to this ... These reports are aimed at the mass consumer, and it makes sense to make them love, proud, respect, etc. in particular, the army and specifically the homeland ... agree that is right and very important!
    2. +3
      12 June 2014 19: 31
      Amigo! The nuclear submarines are not created in 2 days! The same American Sea Wolfe began to develop approximately from the same time as our Ash! It has already been announced that work is underway on the 5th generation, and they will appear only around 30 years, both with us and our "friends", do the inputs yourself! The project, or rather the lead boat, was modernized in the zero years, in the 90s there was no time for it, towards the end of the 80s its design was just completed! The head one does not fully correspond to the modern level of technology, it was necessary to build from what was, but the Yasen-M project is very different from it, it corresponds to the modern level of technology completely. Ash is not to be confused with Boreyas! On the head Yasen, if there is equipment there are not a lot of decommissioned boats! This is what makes it unique in our fleet now.
      1. +1
        14 June 2014 21: 00
        Probably not from decommissioned but unbuilt 3 generations. GEM, most likely, for sure
        1. 0
          16 June 2014 16: 10
          It all went to Borea.
    3. +1
      12 June 2014 19: 33
      By the way, this is the newest boat for us, because by the most important parameters it surpasses its predecessors of the 3 generation, and it uses a number of important technological solutions that were not used in our fleet before the village.
  16. +4
    12 June 2014 17: 16
    Caribbean song
    Y. Vizbor

    And the thing began as follows:
    The yellow dawn has gone out
    And our gray submarine
    The anchors are absorbed.

    And blond sailors
    We wave with a shawl with a handkerchief:
    No accidents to you, no pitching,
    And nine feet under the keel.

    And drown us, brothers, - hell!
    And in a hurricane, and in complete calm
    We are from any trim
    We'll hit the torpedo under the keel.

    We went to sea by order
    And by order - home.
    We are returning to base
    And it’s winter already.

    We were so happy over
    We miss her so much
    And they drink divers for dinner
    Fruit-profitable port.
    1963
  17. Leshka
    0
    12 June 2014 17: 23
    look forward to drinks
  18. Kir
    0
    12 June 2014 19: 02
    I'd like to hope that the following submarines:
    "..... will receive updated equipment based on domestic components"
    , well, wish the Northern Fleet as soon as possible, But! without haste, the acceptance of "Severodvinsk" in the combat composition.
  19. Kupez
    0
    12 June 2014 21: 02
    GOOD must be strong. That the EVIL would be afraid.
  20. 1969s9691g.
    -16
    12 June 2014 22: 06
    it would be better to learn how to make machines and so that these obsolete "super submarines" do not sink and people do not die. And your Hitler does not give a shit about you and all.
    1. Matroskin 18
      +7
      13 June 2014 00: 26
      Whose cow mumbled! ... You, undoubtedly, have cars and domestic submarines (a) at the highest level! And with regards to Hitler ... buddy, with your natsik! ....
      1. 1969s9691g.
        -5
        13 June 2014 20: 13
        Come here and see how people live. By the ears in the mud you boast of boats, and without teeth and with constant fume. Asians ... Lived like slaves and will continue to be silent, listen and crawl before the century-old, like worms. You like, then keep rotting with your boats ...
        1. 1969s9691g.
          -2
          13 June 2014 20: 32
          "Matroskin" your planes are already burning on the ground.
          1. +1
            13 June 2014 22: 04
            Will the monsieur video of the crashed prototype "ryapa" find it himself, or stick his nose with it?
          2. +1
            14 June 2014 21: 04
            And your ukrovvs well stray militias.
        2. +3
          13 June 2014 21: 20
          Alexander, before you open your mouth and utter vileness, it is worth reading other comments.
          From your commentary, I understood that all of you have toothy teeth? Are you already Caucasians? And unlike us, you don't crawl like worms, but you jump like rabbits?

          People live the way they feel better, and not the way they are told from Kiev.
          1. 0
            20 June 2014 16: 53
            ... their submarine walks on the steppes like Jesus on the water ...
        3. +3
          13 June 2014 22: 01
          Dill, I’ll tell you a little fact - in the ships of the new shipbuilding program of the Russian Federation a lot of work of citizens of Ukraine. And I'm not talking about turbines, but about those Ukrainians who work with their heads and hands (and not with their tongue and ass, like you) for the benefit of both countries
          1. +1
            14 June 2014 21: 05
            Well said, I support. And the kid, you see, the little head was baked, the lid completely fell off
        4. +1
          14 June 2014 21: 03
          For you, the poor and your "tower", this is an unattainable height ... wipe your snot,
    2. 0
      13 June 2014 06: 02
      You are like a hedgehog from the fog.
    3. +1
      13 June 2014 10: 50
      I would learn something about her for a start! And then start crowing!
    4. +4
      13 June 2014 16: 41
      And then you yourself have learned what to do, amers and geyrop one place to lick !!!!
    5. +1
      14 June 2014 21: 01
      Who are you? It was already said correctly - with your zapadentsev, they would have been quiet better ...
    6. 0
      17 June 2014 22: 08
      Forgive me admins
  21. +2
    13 June 2014 13: 35
    Quote: 1969с9691г.
    it would be better to learn how to make machines and so that these obsolete "super submarines" do not sink and people do not die. And your Hitler does not give a shit about you and all.

    Well, complete dullness
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      1. +2
        13 June 2014 22: 28
        If Russia began to restore order in your Ukraine, all fagots and fascists would have fled to the geyropu already by now !!!!
      2. +1
        13 June 2014 22: 32
        Sashko, that hi to you walnut. Well, think yourself, promote kohda s (, I am the Nazi face, s), against the Ukrainians pulled out?
        If yes, THEN NAME, ATTEND ONE CASE !!
      3. 0
        14 June 2014 00: 21
        We’ll bring it, be sure, and ask you for everything, and you download, it’s you who are so exceptional, like your mattress owners. I’m wondering how much you do not respect yourself, what to creep under all.
      4. +1
        14 June 2014 21: 06
        About boats it’s better to shut up, crucian, if not in the subject. And IL - 76 with nerds was credited in passing. Continue?
      5. -1
        16 June 2014 09: 28
        bgg) how much do you get paid?)) Some kind of low-quality trolling laughing Newbie

        You yourself have a great and powerful submarine, pride - wassat
        Only he "swims" and does not walk, and only from the fact that her seagulls crap)))

        In the meantime, do not waste time and get ready for the "European Tour", i.e. grow a beard, save money for silicone tits, do a pedicure, epilation, shave your ass, in general, get ready to go to work in civilized Geyropa lol
      6. 0
        17 June 2014 22: 02
        Dear admins!
        Ban, please, a user with the nickname "1969s9691g" because of a violation of the rules:
        A, B, D, E.
        Best regards
        Ilya (Sukhoi_T-50)
        1. +1
          17 June 2014 22: 09
          Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
          Ban, please, a user with the nickname "1969s9691g" because of a violation of the rules:

          For ban while no reason. But your request is partially granted.
  22. +1
    13 June 2014 18: 59
    in the same letter of A. N. Lutsky it was noted: "The current means of anti-torpedo protection of domestic submarines are ineffective against modern foreign torpedoes."
    The question was even more severely posed in an article of the same author in the Marine Collection (No. 7, 2010): “It is proposed that the submarines of the Ash and Borey projects under construction be equipped with PTZ systems, the technical specifications for the development of which were drawn up in the 80’s years of the last century, the results of studies of the effectiveness of these weapons against modern torpedoes indicate an extremely low probability of non-defeat of evading submarines. "
    Read more: http://vpk-news.ru/articles/8679
  23. +1
    13 June 2014 19: 03
    "all is well lovely marquise"
    one "little BUT"
    - will Mr. K. Ryabov clarify how such an amazing incident could have turned out 0 the acceptance certificate "was already signed in December", and "the event itself" in fact may only take place on 17.06?
  24. +2
    13 June 2014 21: 55
    Quote: 1969с9691г.
    your heads are darkened. You should restore order. Airplanes and rockets will fall and boats sink. So you need goats.

    dill - this is a diagnosis
    1. 0
      14 June 2014 23: 06
      Ukropiteki climb where netreba! :-) :-) :-)
  25. +2
    13 June 2014 22: 49
    Hi Maxim! Hello Anton!
    Dill is not worth your attention.
    Raising the flag at Severodvinsk is a political event. But at the same time comprehensively positive.
    It is necessary to develop operational experience. Only in this way will the real strengths of the ship and possible miscalculations in the design and construction appear. And this experience will allow industry to develop and improve. We must not forget about the 15 years of the mess. Today, many industries have to be debugged again. Only the systematic development of all components of shipbuilding will allow us to create a high-quality, perfect product, and at the same time, within a reasonable time and for adequate money.
    Well, on Tuesday there will be a reason drinks
    Keep it up!
    1. 0
      13 June 2014 22: 51
      Greetings Pavel! Oh, how am I waiting for the first exit to the sea of ​​Kazan.)
    2. 0
      14 June 2014 00: 45
      After signing the act, the fleet’s capabilities to demand from industry to do as it should (and bring) sharply narrow.
      No reason for drinks I do not see.
      1. 0
        14 June 2014 08: 39
        On the other hand, industry is flirting with problems. Factory programs-methods of testing are adapted to bypass "thin" places. Real exploitation should reveal the real picture.
        And the reason, Maxim, is that we have finally crossed the "failure". After all, 20 years are really lost. The fourth generation should have been back then ...
        And all the "unders" may be taken into account in the next ...
  26. +1
    14 June 2014 00: 32
    Quote: 1969с9691г.
    it would be better to learn how to make machines and so that these obsolete "super submarines" do not sink and people do not die. And your Hitler does not give a shit about you and all.

    Is that what you say about Hitler? Completely sick, so be treated, drink green stuff, eat a bandage, maybe it will. I don’t care, you have already sung guitar to the psalms in the open psalms, PPC has no words. Unfortunately, it turns out that the Ukrainian is already a diagnosis
  27. +3
    14 June 2014 14: 52
    Quote: 1969с9691г.
    your heads are darkened. You should restore order. Airplanes and rockets will fall and boats sink. So you need goats.

    "Dear" gentleman under the Ukrainian flag. Let our planes crash sometimes, boats are not perfect, missiles are not very good and we are not always commanded by Democrats. This is our internal affair. What are your personal complaints against our country: we don’t give gas for free, don’t allocate money, or are you just jealous? Before my trip to Ukraine, I thought that we were not doing very well, but after that I changed my mind. I have met such poverty in few places. And I traveled around Russia and Europe, be healthy. There is a wonderful film "72 meters", watch it especially the episode about the farewell of "Slavyanka". Doesn't it look like anything? YOU GENTLEMEN HAVE BEEN THROUGH EVERYTHING AND NOW BECOME IN A POSITION AND CRYING. You just think that the pose is a wrestling stance, but in fact it is a young laundress. Yes, I almost forgot: As long as we are criticized, then we are doing everything right. By the way, why don't you write in "mov", but in Russian, you probably sit in the back room of some construction site in Russia and pour out anger on the keyboard. I hope that I did not offend the fraternal people by criticizing a not very smart individual.
    1. 1969s9691g.
      -3
      14 June 2014 21: 55
      For the gifted. I graduated from a Russian school. Do not go wherever they ask you. There were brotherly people, but thanks to your tsar who you are afraid of as a devil.
      1. +1
        14 June 2014 23: 10
        Where is your king? At the Washington Regional Committee! So now eat cookies and listen to your fagots!
    2. 1969s9691g.
      -3
      14 June 2014 23: 06
      What can you say if you say that the CIA wrote songs for Tsoi and Makarevich became almost an enemy.



























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      1. 0
        25 June 2014 20: 09
        These stand each other. I almost forgot, you are in their company!
  28. +1
    14 June 2014 21: 11
    Kosmos1980 - You are a huge plus. In vain I ran into this little one. His diagnosis is treated solely with a caliber of 5,45, and better - 7,62 laughing
  29. 0
    17 June 2014 22: 04
    Hurray! Waited! If there were more such submarines and everything would be fine.
    And I advise trolls to pour from the site. School is not the place
  30. Imandra
    0
    21 June 2014 01: 57
    In the USSR, 9 nuclear submarines per year were launched ...