The arrest of the national mayor of Slavyansk

ITAR-TASS reports that representatives of the press service of the DPR confirmed the fact that the people's mayor of Slavyansk, Vyacheslav Ponomarev, was detained.

“Ponomarev is detained. It is located in the building of the former Security Service of Ukraine (in Slavyansk), ”the press service noted.

Earlier it was reported that the DPR Minister of Defense Igor Strelkov dismissed Ponomarev from office and ordered his arrest.

“The so-called people's mayor, Ponomarev, was removed from office for conducting activities incompatible with the goals and objectives of the civil administration. I cannot say more yet, ”said Strelkov.

Meanwhile, as noted Lifenews, the mother of the detainee asked the townspeople to intercede for her son.

“I appeal to you, good people, intercede for my son,” the woman asked. - He defended his city. He never did anything bad to anyone. ”

According to Inna Ponomareva, she came to the SBU building to see her son, but she was not allowed inside.

Vyacheslav Ponomarev was the people's mayor of Slavyansk from April 13 on 2014.

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[Riperbahn]

Bickering inside and undercover games begins.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Riperbahn

Bickering inside and undercover games begins.

His shooter tied, you see it was for that.

[Horst78]

Last night like a rebuttal was

[krpmlws]

Quote: Horst78

Last night like a rebuttal was

Did you watch the video?

[Legeida]

After an interview with a woman who introduced herself as his wife, Yarosh, who, as it turned out later, was just a mentally unhealthy person watching television, and not a wife, I do not really trust videos with strangers. I would like to hear Strelkova or Ponomarev.

[baltika-18]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

His shooter tied, you see it was for that.

Quote: Horst78

Last night like a rebuttal was

Well, it hangs like that in VK, there is a fresh info from 11.06, according to Ponomarev nothing. Only that it is engaged in repair. Who the fuck is to trust? Yes to anyone. The media is a big smelly cesspool, a gay-looking journalist in the eternal pursuit of rating.

[Jurkovs]

On channel 24 today it was reported that he was removed and is in the building of the Slavic SBU, not a word about the arrest.

[Sunjar]

It is worth waiting for at least some more detailed news. Shooters usually give detailed answers to the questions posed, but here the matter is important. Otherwise, the Ukrainian junta will write him down as cruel dictators.

[Apollo]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

His shooter tied, you see it was for that.

Yesterday you tried to refute. I referred to ITAR-TASS, wrote serious organization.
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Now, as for Ponomarev, it wasn’t worth guessing on the coffee grounds. I can give hundreds of prerequisites for the arrest and they will all have the right to exist. We will wait a couple of days and it will be seen what and how.
Good morning, Alexander and all visitors to the forum.

[Mihaylo Tishayshiy]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

His shooter tied, you see it was for that.

And some time ago, if you remember, I disarmed Ponomarev and his comrades.

[Eragon]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

His shooter tied, you see it was for that.

Or Shooters went off the rails.

[avt]

Quote: Eragon

Or Shooters went off the rails.

The time of "atamans" has passed, and a long time ago. A unified command of a unified army is needed. So this is quite expected. In Lugansk, Mozgovoy and Bolotov also almost reached the interpreter at first, but the situation seems to have settled, again remember how they cleaned it up, after the unsuccessful assault on the airport in Donetsk and the robbery "Metro" building of the Regional State Administration. So if they create a single administrative and economic system out of the fragments, they will survive. But some who will naturally go aside, here, like we have in the 90s.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

His shooter tied, you see it was for that.

Hi Sanya. I will express myself cynically - for the common cause of the DPR, it would be better if they killed him. Whatever the reason is. And now the CIA and Kiev will try to play this card, and bring a split and confusion into the heads of the population. Like - they say look at whom you trusted.

[Jurkovs]

This is a serious mistake Arrow. He is not Ukrainian by citizenship and is in Slovyansk according to his personally understood sense of duty. And Ponomarev is local, moreover, chosen by the descent of the city. If Kiev will negotiate, then with such as Ponomarev, Strelok for them an international terrorist and a mercenary. By such actions, the Shooter will lose the support of the city residents and people will no longer see their defender in it.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Riperbahn

Bickering inside and undercover games begins.

His shooter tied, you see it was for that.

Hey . Sanya
Or vice versa, Ponomarev wanted to tie, but he didn’t have enough strength
Ponomarev local, Strelkov visiting. Ponomarev has nothing to lose and no escape. Shooters can always be leaked to Russia
What do you think the local population will react to this? Do you think visitors in such small towns become their own - never.
Ponomarev was chosen (even though there were one and a half excavators in the elections, but the Slavic ones were chosen), Strelkov was a newcomer.
In general, as you can see, Ukram even doesn’t need to strain, they themselves are overwhelmed with each other, and against the background of the lack of any help from Donetsk (by the way, why?)
In general --- When there is no agreement in the comrades --- then you know.

[Ascetic]

Quote: atalef

Ukrainians don’t even need to strain, they themselves are overwhelmed with each other, and against the background of the lack of any help from Donetsk (by the way, why? )

Well, the Ukrainians should come to such a withdrawal just the same way. Yesterday I set out thoughts on this matter. Here even an imaginary or real arrest does not change anything ...

Ascetic SU Yesterday, 19:50 | Reports of the arrest of the people's mayor of Slavyansk Ponomaryov
Quote: Ing40
Stopudovy ukrovbros. We look here, this trust is more: http://arbaletfire.livejournal.com/208084.html

It seems that it’s not ukrovbros but infodiversion in the style of the KGB of the USSR. Such things were carried out during the wars in Africa (Angola for example). Disagreements and disorder in the leadership, panic in the ranks, a difficult situation in order to creating the illusion of an adversary quickly defeating an almost demoralized adversary. Let's hit our weak point here, the enemy concentrates his efforts on this "weak point" and suddenly gets a hefty slap in the face, pinpoint blows from demoralized alarmists

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[Ascetic]

Strelkov, as previously seen, relies in his work on the experience of the Second World War and the Soviet laws of that time. In fact, Slavyansk is in a SEPARATE position like Moscow in October 1941.
On October 19, 1941, the State Defense Committee adopted a decree on the introduction of a state of siege in Moscow and surrounding areas with the aim of eliminating panic, mobilizing the efforts of the troops and the population of the capital to repulse the enemy.

"Violators of the order," the resolution stated, "should be immediately brought to justice with the transfer to the court of the Military Tribunal, and provocateurs, spies and other agents of the enemy, calling for a violation of order, should be shot on the spot."

So Strelkov is capable of shooting on the spot, but apparently Ponomarev is not, hence it can give him weakness ... Especially from Strelkov as a historian-reenactor and a person from the student’s bench who has gone through all the armed conflicts in the CIS, it is quite logical to expect such actions.

[tronin.maxim]

Quote: Riperbahn

Bickering inside and undercover games begins.

Politics.

[soviet skytourist]

ili navodjat porjadok, poka ne pozdno

[aleks700]

Bickering inside and undercover games begins.

Oh ho ho! Well, it would be clear after the victory. And now ... Well, what could you not share? Bandera bullet?

[Denis 60 rus]

Strelkov knows what he’s doing. He was detained, which means it’s the case.

[mig31]

It just doesn’t happen, there is something that we don’t need to know yet ...

[old man]

He began to talk too much about the help of the Russian Federation. And this is a secret.

[alexgrin]

For this he would simply be suspended! They could only be arrested because they could bribe him and there was a drain of information ..

[bugaev2005]

Do not talk nonsense, if you carefully follow what correspondents from Slavyansk wrote, from the very beginning of the conflict it was clear and it’s known what kind of person this is ... People in the subject even saw Ponomarev’s behavior (there is such an expression, all hinged) what kind of person ... Who would entrust such secrets? Back in February, they wrote, during the seizure of the SBU building, that Ponomarev was watching over Slavyansk ... One of those who, in his youth, stole hats in toilets, was already made by the president .. .

[bugaev2005]

People, have you not read all this time that his brigades constantly looted in Slavyansk?

[atalef]

Quote: bugaev2005

People in the subject, even in the manner of Ponomarev’s behavior (there is such an expression, all hinged), saw what kind of person

Well then. that he could not say a couple of words without b ..., this is understandable, but it does not play a role.
He is his own. local - just don’t say that Strelkov arrested him because he was running his hair dryer

Quote: bugaev2005

that Ponomarev watching over Slavyansk was

And now he is already a gangster (although everyone knew about it), and on TV they said that the people's mayor and just a patriot
Aksyonov, by the way, is the same, the bandyugan is famous-- what can you say about this?

[inkass_98]

There are few options: either abuse (and there was also a hint of a return to old bad habits, like drugs - but just a hint) or a shooter in Bonaparte marks that in their conditions is not meaningless - a dictatorship in wartime conditions often paid off.

[shyler]

It seems to me because of the failure of the capture of the airport in Donetsk, which was headed precisely by Ponomarev. Too big losses among the militias.

[Legeida]

The capture of the airport, even in my amateurish opinion, was a failed operation. I don’t understand at all how it was possible to go for it. There is an open field around, there is even nowhere to hide. The militias were in full view. Without bulletproof vests, without helmets, although this would hardly have helped them. But they were not led by Ponomarev, as far as I understood. I listened to an interview with the Vostok commander, where he spoke of a traitor in the person of someone from the leaders of the DPR. Because on the outskirts of the airport, the militia was already waiting, the route along which the car with the guys would go was already known.

[urii]

I saw an interview. One of the DNR says. Why it was necessary to capture the airfield. Do you want it so that the planes didn’t land there? Just hurt a little take-off and that’s all. it will give. it will be necessary to bombard dill with it. I understand. if a real militia attack has begun. then take everything. that’s on the way. but not yet.

[VengefulRat]

How could Ponamarev from Slavyansk manage the seizure of an airport in Donetsk?

[Semen Semyonitch]

Why did they push the minuses?

[Bayonet]

They would know for what, even more, every ten times, they would cram!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

“The so-called people's mayor, Ponomarev, was removed from office for conducting activities incompatible with the goals and objectives of the civil administration. I cannot say more yet, ”said Strelkov. a bit of clarity would ...

[muginov2015]

I can not vouch for the reliability, but there is infa that he protected all drug traffickers in the city.

[boozer]

The news does not affect the situation. Distraction from military events and in general from the situation in the South-East of Ukraine. Well, they arrested, well, they closed, they figure it out themselves. It's just that nothing is being done. Martial law however. Close the topic, tired of the same thing ... Now, if Parashchenko were closed, then there would be news!

[staryivoin]

Time will put everything in its place and give everyone an assessment. Must wait. Although once arrested in the conditions of hostilities, there was a reason.

[Andrey160479]

Apparently there really is something for it. Time is military. Or maybe he led a double game ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: Andrey160479

Apparently there really is something for it.

- Well, no, all these years he skillfully disguised himself as a decent person. (film "The Diamond Arm").

[Pit Bull59]

When there is no agreement in the comrades ... Then you know.

[sensey]

But just a grandmother familiar, more than once flashed on UKRTV as the daughter of Crimean officers;) is it not an artist by chance Ukrainian?

[Saratovets]

The establishment of order in the ranks of the DPR army begins! this should have come

[kartalovkolya]

What does the army have to do with it, because Ponomarev is the people's mayor!

[Vlad7461]

It is strange that there was no update of Strelkov’s page in VKontakte, usually everything is operational there. Okay, I hope everything will become clear soon. In spite of everything, good luck to Strelkov and his soldiers, as well as to all of us.

[Owl]

Strelkov has no page in VKontakte or in other social networks.

[biglow]

comrades Strelkova has no accounts in social networks. No need to read what someone writes on his behalf, except for the antique site he no longer writes anywhere .. Nothing is known about what happened to the mayor of Slavyansk ....

[KOH]

When it all started, Ponomarev did not piss, and stood up against the junta, so do not obsc ..

[Owl]

And if you assume that he was just hastening to take a warm place, which gives great opportunities. After all, no one had ever imagined that dill would send the army and the National Guard to erase Slavyansk from the face of the Earth.
In any case, you need to wait for the official explanations, and then say who needs to be discussed and who is not.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Owl

In any case, you need to wait for official explanations.

This is the most reasonable, but for some reason, some have itching - immediately cheat a person, brand, and then understand.

[feniks]

I believe Strelkov, there is no smoke without fire. If not everyone speaks, then this is a serious matter, not for ordinary people.

[atalef]

Quote: feniks

I believe Strelkov, there is no smoke without fire. If not everyone speaks, then this is a serious matter, not for ordinary people.

And it seems to me more like an internal showdown.
And that means not for the philistine ears.
Arrested - file a claim, but since the people will follow him?
Strelkov in Slavyansk is a new man who has not proved himself (really), Ponomaryov grew up there, he clearly has the sex of the city of acquaintances, friends, etc.
And here Strelkov arrested without explanation.
How would you react. if this happened in your city, with the person whom you have chosen and have known for many years?

Quote: Pollang

We will wait for official statements from Pushilin and Strelkov on television

And where does Pushilin? These are generally separate estates as something in little contact with each other and certainly not helping each other

Quote: ed65b

All right, Ponomarev was suspended from military operations and only economic powers were left.

And why ?

Quote: RAA

Putting on St. George's ribbons and posing as representatives of the City Hall, taking away transport, money and other valuable things from citizens "in the name of victory", the criminal riffraff caused a stream of complaints. The shooters, as a decent person, could not help reacting. The first swallow of discord flew away. All this is sad. The bastard-Kolomoisky can be pleased.

Of course, Slavyansk is such a city, practically a millionaire, so no one is familiar with anyone. By the way, if everything is so simple, maybe it would be easier for Kolome to seize the whole of Slavyansk with their forces.

Quote: Guzey

, some timidly tried to object that Ponamarev was an outspoken criminal, to which they were accused of almost betrayal,

those. Strelkov found out about it only yesterday

[kartalovkolya]

It’s bitter to read this message, and how happy the news is in Kiev! At such a difficult moment, and this happens in Slavyansk, all this is very similar to the CIA’s special operation, it’s their handwriting, but let's not rush to conclusions, time will tell!

[Bayonet]

It seems that a dictator has appeared in the Principality of Donetsk! Let's see what will happen next.

[aleks_29296]

Bayonet (1) SU  Today, 08:05 New


It seems that a dictator has appeared in the Principality of Donetsk! Let's see what will happen next.

History knows many examples when a dictator appears after the revolution. Only a strong personality can restore order in a post-revolutionary mess.

[Eragon]

Quote: aleks_29296

History knows many examples when a dictator appears after the revolution. Only a strong personality can restore order in a post-revolutionary mess.

History knows, but people do not study. Vivid examples of strong personalities: A. Hitler, I. Stalin. Doesn’t it bother you?

[Bayonet]

Quote: aleks_29296

History knows many examples when a dictator appears after the revolution.

Now they are throwing minuses to you, I have already grabbed onto the dictator.

[Pollang]

There is very little information for analysis, we will wait for official statements from Pushilin and Strelkov on television.

[Balamyt]

Bribes, bribery, provocation, draining .... these are weapons of war, in war all means are good if they provide superiority in any way over the enemy. I think this is the very case. Only time will put everything in its place. And now is not the time to stick labels!

[ed65b]

All right, Ponomarev was removed from military operations and only economic powers were left. Strelkov reassigned to himself all the militia units, including Ponomarev. DNR leadership refutes this info. Well, if it’s true, then it’s better to sit on your own than on the rack in Kiev.

[fva50]

He immediately seemed to me somehow suspicious. He behaved sloppy.

[Ek.Sektor]

I have a very high confidence coefficient for Strelkov, so I'm sure he knows what he does if he is arrested, then there are reasons.

[RAA]

Of course, there is a reason. Kolomoisky "asked" the criminal authorities to arrange criminal lawlessness in the territories controlled by the militias. Putting on the St. George ribbons and introducing himself as representatives of the City Hall, taking away "in the name of victory" from citizens transport, money and other valuables, the criminal riffraff caused a stream of complaints. Strelkov, as a decent person, could not help but react. The first swallow of discord flew. All this is sad. Bastard-Kolomoisky can be satisfied.

[kush62]

RAA
Of course, there is a reason. Kolomoisky "asked" the criminal authorities to arrange criminal lawlessness in the territories controlled by the militia. Putting on the St. George ribbons and introducing himself as representatives of the City Hall, taking away "in the name of victory" from citizens transport, money and other valuables, the criminal riffraff caused a stream of complaints. Strelkov, as a decent person, could not help but react. The first swallow of discord flew.

This is not contention. Discord is when power is shared, command posts, warm places. And here (if the truth of course) was suspended for some (so far unknown to us) sins.

[Pavel Kuznetsov]

If there really was a statement by Ponomarev that a convoy of Russian troops crossed the Ukrainian border and entered Snezhnoye, then there is something to arrest him for! At the very least, such a statement can be regarded only as a provocation! And provocateurs need to act according to the laws of war! At least arrest!

[Antibrim]

who can accurately confirm this? but for now, somehow it’s not clear everything.

[rubin6286]

In conditions of military confrontation, any person responsible for the situation in the rear must perform very specific tasks. I hope that all other commentators understand this, although I admit that I do not quite understand what is behind it. The city is blocked, surrounded, people are dying every hour. Who is responsible for the delivery of ammunition and replenishment to the front line, the timely evacuation of the wounded, and the burial of the fallen? In whose hands is the evacuation of the population, the organization of food supply, water supply, the operation of medical institutions, the availability of medicines, heat and light, doctors and nurses, the creation of reserves of fuel and lubricants, the functioning of transport, the maintenance of law and order in the city? The shooters cannot say everything now, he is in charge of the actions at the forefront, but they will have to return to this issue. You can displace anyone, but the problems are growing like a snowball. Who authorized the evacuation of the male doctors from the city? How are fire fighting issues dealt with, especially if they are caused by damage to the gas supply system? How to organize a stable connection between the front and the rear in conditions when mobile phones do not work? Strelkov dismissed, but the measure of responsibility of the mayor is not determined by him. AA Zhdanov was responsible for Leningrad in the last war. Few people know how many officials of a lower rank were "spanked" for certain omissions, but, in the end, the backbone of managers was formed and acted effectively until the blockade was broken. There is a war in Slavyansk, but in Russia in peacetime there are so many people who have "rubbed in" into various government bodies who cannot even be trusted to graze cattle, not that real and serious issues are to be resolved.

[Ross]

Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy

Quote: Alexander Romanov

His shooter tied, you see it was for that.

And some time ago, if you remember, I disarmed Ponomarev and his comrades.

I think this is the most important reason, especially considering the position of the city, and the "manner" of some Donetsk residents.

[Monetniy]

Local zealously said that Ponamorev urkagan

[Guzey]

From the very beginning, even on this site, some timidly tried to object that Ponamarev was an outspoken criminal, to which they were accused of almost betraying them, that they should be a normal guy, and now we see the result, you can minus it, it’s just killing sometimes this frenzied patriotism and black and white world, if in the militia for the DNI and LND, then an angel in white clothes, and accordingly vice versa, and the world is more complicated, and people are different everywhere.
To clarify the situation, I wholeheartedly support Donetsk and Lugansk, I follow all the news about them, but I urge to be at least a little more objective. Simplification to a flat black-and-white picture has never brought to good.

[NUR]

From the outside it is always easy to rule even the whole country. In fact, not everything is so simple.

[siberalt]

In the situation in which Slavyansk is located, all power should belong to the military. Civilian "measures" are usually concerned with providing livelihoods for the population. But guessing about the reasons for the arrest is not a rewarding business.

[atalef]

Quote: siberalt

In the situation in which Slavyansk is located, all power should belong to the military

Therefore, a civilian must be arrested
Absolutely the right decision - this strengthens the ranks of the defenders.
After all, no one supported Ponomorev, he only interfered — do you want to say this?

[KOH]

Quote: Guzey

From the very beginning, even on this site, some timidly tried to object that Ponamarev was an outspoken criminal, to which they were accused of almost betraying them, that they should be a normal guy, and now we see the result, you can minus it, it’s just killing sometimes this frenzied patriotism and black and white world, if in the militia for the DNI and LND, then an angel in white clothes, and accordingly vice versa, and the world is more complicated, and people are different everywhere.
To clarify the situation, I wholeheartedly support Donetsk and Lugansk, I follow all the news about them, but I urge to be at least a little more objective. Simplification to a flat black-and-white picture has never brought to good.

On the side of ukrov, too, all true patriots ...

[urii]

if they start to rejoice in Kiev. that Ponamarev was arrested. then in vain Strelkov did so. if this is true at all. let's see.

[alone]

Awww !! Where are the minusers, when I wrote that, with Ponomarev’s measures, how have I been a ballerina? There is a redistribution of spheres of influence, each field commander is trying to row everything that is possible for himself.