When a Russian wants justice, there is no such force that could stop him

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When a Russian wants justice, there is no such force that could stop him


If Poroshenko wants peace, then before the start of negotiations, he must: withdraw all troops and release all political prisoners.

“Pans” from Galicia actively use the word “comradeship”, but at the same time they hate the appeal “comrade”, historically adopted at the Zaporizhzhya Sich. That once again proves their alienness of ours stories, to which they are trying to cling. And they do not understand us at all (however, like some Russian "gentlemen").

However, the point is not in the appeals. Pans in Kiev think that they can promise something to the residents of Donbass, and they will happily agree. Promise an amnesty to those who do not need it, or the Russian language to those who already speak it.

They naively think that the current situation can be solved by "decentralization", "increasing the powers of local governments" or "extraordinary elections of local councils".

They do not understand that the matter is no longer even in federalism. It was possible to talk about federalism until May 2. After 2 May, one can’t even just confine himself to the recognition of the existence of New Russia (or, for the time being, the LC and the DPR). This is no longer enough.

To understand us, you need to read the legend of Ulenshpigel. Seven became one in the Netherlands. Eight will be one in the New Russia. Klaas ashes beat in Eulenspiegel's heart. The ashes of Odessa are knocking in our hearts.

We do not care about federalization. We do not even care about independence (although we will definitely not live with executioners, punishers, Nazis and their henchmen). We want more - we want justice.

And when a Russian man wants justice, there is no such force that could stop him. Do you think that the local people want peace and are ready to accept Poroshenko as a handout (and, moreover, give something for him)? No, I have heard a lot about a month of communication with the local people, what they really want.

Mining weaponTaking control of military units and border posts, repelling the attacks of superior punitive forces and dismantling the rubble after the next air attack or shelling, the Russians of New Russia are planning the liberation of Kharkov, Nikolaev and Odessa, they think about how our Tanks will enter Kiev and wonder how they will catch the law-bearers and the Svolotovites in Vinnitsa and Khmelnitsky (and many are going to visit Lviv for a visit).

And they argue about how to denazify the territory of the former Ukraine, and where it is better to try American litters that are guilty of mass killings - in Rostov, in Nuremberg or at the place of capture. In the temporarily occupied Kharkov, Odessa, and even Dnepropetrovsk there are many of our brothers, and the Russians do not abandon theirs. Therefore, even recognition of the independence of the DNI and the LC is not enough.

If Poroshenko wants peace, then before the start of negotiations, he should:

1. Leave all troops;

2. Release all political prisoners;

3. Judge Kolomoisky for organizing gangs;

4. Prohibit the terrorist organization Right Sector and arrest its leaders;

5. Investigate and punish those responsible for all mass killings;

6. To leave for the trial the pilots who bombed Donetsk and Lugansk, as well as the artillerymen from Karachun mountain;

7. Disrupt diplomatic relations with the United States.

Then you can start a dialogue. And if he does not do this, then let him watch the film “Bunker” to recall what happened to his predecessor. Adik also thought that the victory was practically in his hands, but he had to die in an underground hole like a rat.

Time to think already goes, and with each passing hour it is less and less ...
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  1. +27
    11 2014 June
    One thing is for sure - the world cannot be, the State Department, the world in Ukraine is fat to the Afghan ...
    1. +7
      11 2014 June
      Hmm ... What ON ... WORLD ??? After the broken cities ... Let them not hope ... Now, or THEY WILL RETURN themselves ... !!! Or IM will be hard to HELP ... !!!
      1. +5
        11 2014 June
        Quote: Armagedon
        Which ON ... WORLD ??? After the broken cities ..
    2. +11
      11 2014 June
      Quote: mig31
      One thing is for sure - the world cannot be, the State Department, the world in Ukraine is fat to the Afghan ...

      According to media reports:

      “US Vice President Joe Biden personally phoned the President of Ukraine.
      The vice president ... emphasized the urgent need for an immediate dialogue with opposition leaders in order to respond to the legitimate concerns of the protesters and come up with serious proposals for political reform. He called on the president ... to withdraw government forces and demonstrate maximum endurance. The vice president made clear that the US condemns the violence on any side, but that the government is especially responsible for de-escalating the situation. ”
      --
      Do not believe? And if I say that the call was February 18, and the president was Yanukovych?
      From the site http://www.inpearls.ru/
      1. +1
        11 2014 June
        But I was seduced)) until I saw the date.
    3. +2
      11 2014 June
      What does the Bendera people have to do with the picture? Bender is quite a decent town. But the Banderites are a completely different song. Poroshenko and the world? The protege of mattresses and the world at the borders of Russia .. What nonsense. Little depends on the bucket. It all depends on the GDP. This is either a very serious confrontation with the West and the introduction of our troops, or the DPR and LPR fighters, periodically complaining about Russia not providing them with assistance, will establish control over the border, clean up units in cities, "nourish" equipment up to TU-160 (exaggerating of course) will begin to expand Novorossiya, again not forgetting to complain about Russia, which "does not provide" assistance to them. It is not in vain that the crews of heavy armored vehicles are being recruited in Donbass now .. oh, not in vain. And they dial up loudly.
    4. johnsnz
      +6
      11 2014 June
      And Novorossiysk people no longer believe in the world. I watched special correspondent on TV yesterday, an interview with militias. Fierce, ready to go to the end people. Death does not scare them.
      1. +5
        11 2014 June
        Also looked. The miners are slowly starting to leave the mines, and no one is going to forgive.
  2. Beloborodov
    +5
    11 2014 June
    8. Make Russian the state language and negotiations can no longer be conducted - the integrity of Ukraine will be returned in the fulfillment of these 8 points.

    Under such conditions, especially the termination of diplomatic relations with the United States, Ukraine will be ours as before.
    Equal, independent and ours.
    1. Evil Pole
      +3
      11 2014 June
      Quote: Beloborodov
      especially termination of diplomatic relations with the USA, Ukraine will

      Do you really think that Ukrainians will break off relations with amers? It’s naive to think so. Dill is already bogged down by these very ones, and they can’t escape. If only the collapse of Dill in different state-va.
      1. +2
        11 2014 June
        Do you really think that Ukrainians will break off relations with amers?


        A slave cannot leave the master; he can only escape.
        1. 0
          11 2014 June
          "A slave cannot leave the master, he can only run away." --- Caught and flogged, that's the best case. Right now they are whipping, with the hands of an overseer, the same slave, but more cruel. Do not forget they were all eager to go to Europe until the sobering up passed, so they are essentially slaves. And we have how many such lackeys, they themselves climb and push us, the manna from heaven awaits us there.
      2. Beloborodov
        0
        11 2014 June
        I will be honest - I do not think for the inhabitants of Ukraine.
        With all 8 points, Ukraine will be ours.
        On the probability of speech did not lead in principle.
        I don’t say exactly how likely it is that the Kremlin itself will sever diplomatic relations with America ...
        After all, it is logical, first of all, to demand from the Kremlin what we demand from Ukraine?
  3. +5
    11 2014 June
    Poroshenko had a unique chance that Putin did not have in 2000 in Chechnya: to immediately stop the war, change the leadership of Ukropia, start negotiations, etc. Now there is no longer a chance to declare your accomplices byak.
    1. +4
      11 2014 June
      The article is good. But this mission is impossible for Poroshenko, it is not for this that he was delivered to Ukraine by the Washington kindergarten. His task is to push all of Ukraine to Europe.
      I did not say that the mission is not feasible at all, but someone else will carry it out. And it’s best to judge them in Odessa !!!
      1. 0
        11 2014 June
        "It is best to judge them in Odessa !!!" --- What a European art, to drown in the Odessa port - the court of the troika, gathered, condemned, drowned. The descendants will figure it out. They also need to solve puzzles and write dissertations, let them compose.
      2. 0
        11 2014 June
        The task is to push all of Ukraine to Europe.


        Europe and the CAA do not have common goals.
    2. johnsnz
      +1
      11 2014 June
      I agree, "byach" government wassat
      1. johnsnz
        +3
        11 2014 June
        diplomatic methods of conflict resolution)))
  4. Death to the Nazis
    +8
    11 2014 June
    Forgot to add the 8th item. It’s better to hang yourself or shoot yourself.
  5. +22
    11 2014 June
    Justice and courtesy are strong qualities!
  6. +7
    11 2014 June
    "If Poroshenko wants peace, then even before the negotiations begin, he must"

    Alas, if Poroshenko did all this, he would not have been Poroshenko. With this power, none of the above will happen.
    1. +6
      11 2014 June
      +
      And it will not happen, because he does not want peace. He wants to intimidate residents of the Kharkiv, Odessa regions and the southeast in general, using the example of Donetsk and Lugansk, which they have already lost. But, something tells me, it won’t work out.
  7. +3
    11 2014 June
    Parasenko can and wants peace - candy is not needed in a war. But those who hold him by the testicles do not want peace.
    Therefore, the piglet squeals about the ATO every time the owner clenches his fist on the balls ... wink
  8. +3
    11 2014 June
    The integrity of Ukraine is possible only within the framework of the created NEW RUSSIA !!!

    That is, the name Ukraine will no longer be. A strong southeast should be fully in control and set the tone. The 20-year-old power of western Ukraine, and it was, will end.
  9. Alexandr 2
    +2
    11 2014 June
    Poroshenko cunning bug.
    He will linger on the topic for a long time: the cessation of hostilities and peace negotiations.
    He himself will destroy the people.
    1. 0
      11 2014 June
      What to write about Poroshenko? He does not decide, but the Negro decides in the USA, or rather their bosses are money. Everything is started against our Russia. We will stand, there will be normal Ukraine. But I think that the South-East of Ukraine will never be Ukraine, most likely he will join Rossmm over time, which will be absolutely right. But of course they decide, because the majority is lying on the couch and waiting for Putin with our Army, we must move ourselves.
  10. +5
    11 2014 June
    What I agree with is that time remains less and less ... Only now, and the requirements for each other are becoming more and more unattainable.
    So, in principle, they predicted. Ukraine will not be returned. Now we will wait for the uprising in the west ...
  11. 0
    11 2014 June
    Well, it is necessary to prepare for a long and protracted conflict ... The II imperialist war broke out - an outlandish war by the imperialist capitalists, for the seizure of the last markets .... For Ukraine, Russia will turn ...
    1. +2
      11 2014 June
      Nifffig not Russia’s turn, torment dust swallow !!!
      1. +1
        11 2014 June
        It’s not a question, therefore, in Ukraine there shouldn’t be any Natsiks .. But it is necessary to admit the fact, the war has begun ... Or what is happening now .. the youth war game Zarnitsa?
  12. +4
    11 2014 June
    Of course, stupidly hopes that Poroshenko will accept these conditions, these are fiction dreams, the war in Ukraine has entered a phase in which neither side has a return. Each side will go to the end.
  13. +4
    11 2014 June
    3. Judge Kolomoisky for organizing gangs;
    Good idea, but not yet feasible. The USA will not allow this to be done. On June 8, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland arrived in Odessa. The one that distributed cookies on the Maidan. She held a number of meetings there with various officials. This means that the United States actually recognized the Kolomoisky vertical as a separate sovereign entity in Ukraine, which controls the Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa regions, and in the near future will try to take control of other southeastern regions like Zaporizhzhya, Nikolaev and Kherson. The meeting was held behind closed doors, reporters managed to attend only at the "parquet" part of the event.
    "Odessa itself and the way it serves itself during a change will greatly influence and determine the future of Ukraine,"
    - said Nuland in the open. The fact that no other region of Ukraine has received such close attention of the Assistant Secretary of State indicates that Odessa has a special role in American politics.
    1. 3vs
      +2
      11 2014 June
      Of course, Odessa is needed for basing NATO ships.
      Yes, and Calo Moishe needs access to the sea.
  14. +5
    11 2014 June
    But Parashik will consult at the American Embassy, ​​get new central control centers and, with a clear conscience, will bomb even more violently under the words of "decentralization" and "amnesty". He himself is amnestied only by a loop, or a bullet.
  15. StepanovTDSM
    0
    11 2014 June
    Emotions and ultimatums never resolved political issues. This is just an emotional explosion from the author.
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    2. mazhnikof.Niko
      +3
      11 2014 June
      Quote: StepanovTDSM
      Emotions and ultimatums never resolved political issues.

      Decided. And not so long ago, for example: the Nazis' attempts (by means of a separate conspiracy, to "jump off" from the unconditional CAPITULATION. The USSR sometimes, quite EMOTIONALLY, and if required, in an ULTIMATIVE form, explained to the "Western partners" (sorry to ALLIES) that this would NEVER happen and ... Everything worked out!
      Anti-example: negotiations "on gas) - turned into a CARRICATURE!"
      So, we need diplomacy and emotions, and ultimatums!
  16. Alexandr 2
    -1
    11 2014 June
    The worst thing is that Poroshenko is especially not afraid of retaliation.
    He has a presidential plane ready to fly to any very democratic country.
    "The Moor has done his job, the Moor can go."
    1. nicollider
      +2
      11 2014 June
      No, it’s just not going to leave by plane, the air defense in Russia shoots the entire territory of the ruin
      1. Alexandr 2
        0
        11 2014 June
        And if the somlet with the USA emblem.
        Yes, with him a couple of NATO fighters.
  17. +4
    11 2014 June
    If Poroshenko wants peace, then before the start of negotiations, he should:

    1. Leave all troops;

    2. Release all political prisoners;

    3. Judge Kolomoisky for organizing gangs;

    4. Prohibit the terrorist organization Right Sector and arrest its leaders;

    5. Investigate and punish those responsible for all mass killings;

    6. To leave for the trial the pilots who bombed Donetsk and Lugansk, as well as the artillerymen from Karachun mountain;

    7: Break diplomatic relations with the United States.

    Then it will be possible to start a dialogue.

    That is, there will never be peace.
  18. Speznaz t
    +2
    11 2014 June
    They all have to answer, these villains! And they will answer and let no one doubt it, we can conduct different policies, a tough stance and an open confrontation, or a long and tedious, forced diplomatic game! But the result for criminals and nonhumans will be the same and I do not envy them!
  19. +1
    11 2014 June
    America Poroshenko offers a more profitable option, which he cannot refuse.
  20. +2
    11 2014 June
    Why does everyone think that Parasha’s goal is to defeat someone? Its purpose is to destroy the population in internecine wars to the maximum. That the country's population would be reduced to the maximum, leaving the territory under new owners. Therefore, all negotiations will only lead to even greater victims in the future. Do you think that with the fall of Lugansk, Slavyansk and Donetsk, everything will end? No, people will be pitted with each other so that they continue to destroy each other. Why do you think rebellious cities have not yet been taken? Yes, because victory is not important in itself; the number of victims resulting from this war is important. It's like a meat grinder, where the population is ground. The more victims - the better for Parasha.
    1. +1
      11 2014 June
      Poroshenko just needs to return the "grandmother" that he invested in the Maidan, and how many people will die at the same time, he doesn't care ...
  21. +2
    11 2014 June
    Pans in Kiev think that they can promise something to the inhabitants of Donbass, and they will happily agree.

    It seems that Poroshenko promises something there not at all for the Donbass, but for his overseas sponsors, so that they can crow happily - that’s where the pacification began in the east of Ukraine, the Ukrainian authorities are meeting the protesters.
    And he perceives the reconciliation in a completely different way - shelling, air strikes, by blocking civilians and preventing them from being provided with basic food and medicine, by destroying the infrastructure of the rebel regions.
    This is ordinary fascism with a slightly tinted facade.
  22. Hyperboreec
    +3
    11 2014 June
    "When a Russian person wants justice, there is no force that could stop him."

    I would say a little differently, "When the Russian world wants justice, there is no force that could stop it" (the Russian world is all of Russia).
    1. +1
      11 2014 June
      Let's remember Leo Tolstoy. Literary critics say that one of the versions of the interpretation of the title of his novel "War and Peace", by the word "peace" meant "people".
      In any case, for the "Russian world" - a plus.
  23. +3
    11 2014 June
    The highest justice is to punish the United States.
  24. +2
    11 2014 June
    The basis of their impudent behavior is the support of "democratic" countries. Impunity breeds permissiveness until it turns out that they do not get away with it and the United States and their European vassals are to blame.
  25. 0
    11 2014 June
    The author is absolutely right !!!
  26. 0
    11 2014 June
    My humble opinion.
    Here, none of this junta will appear before the judge on our charges. Evil threatened Sahak for hanging bells on a tree, so what? And nothing. The case in Ossetia has been opened. So what? Who stood trial for crimes against humanity? Yes, like no one. They promised to transfer gas deliveries to prepaid form until June 01, until June 10, now until June 16. Then there will be another date ... I understand that we will not cut off gas for them, well, maybe for a couple of days, that's all. Otherwise, in Ukraine it will be presented in a very bad light and again the Russians will be to blame ....
    All this is more like aggressive rhetoric and an attempt to press the Khokhlov. Not more. And as a result, we come to an article on justice - I recall a joke about a man in a cemetery ... And who said that she is? (justice). I want justice, very much. I would like to bring the entire top of the junta to Slavyansk, Lugansk, Odessa, in turn, and release them in the main square ... But this only happens in the movies.
  27. 0
    12 2014 June
    And what can you talk about with the Kiev authorities? I think that the time of talking has passed a long time ago, and now silently write on the selected tanks and armored personnel carriers - "To Kiev!"
  28. Dracula
    0
    12 2014 June
    To help the southeast by all available means, without sending troops, as the Amerikos and other democratists do. Do not give American-Israeli puppets additional trump cards. But it is necessary to put pressure on * glands * on all fronts, starting with gas, ending with the personal * selfish * interests of these nonhumans. No handouts, no concessions, no slurred mumble about prices and cubic meters. In the hours when women, children and the elderly die, it sounds blasphemous.

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